Game 91 Overflow thread
by chuckb on Jul 12, 2009 9:30 PM EDT
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PrintI have to mute the TV so I don't listen to Joe and I'm too scared to watch us against Wells. I can understand being unable to hit people like Lincecum or Billingsley. Not being able hit people Randy Wells really pisses me off!
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he is on fire
offense looks a ton better when he is hitting
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
love the caption
and i mentioned a few games ago i thought luddy was coming around…i didnt want to be to optomistic but i think hes finally starting to hit
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
Just picked up Studwick on my fantasy team a few days ago too
"I remember once talking to one guy on the Cardinals and asking him what Pujols was like as a teammate. He said something that’s really special, if you think about it. He said: "Albert is so good that you feel like you let him down when you screw up." I thought that had to be the ultimate line that could ever be said about a ballplayer. I build my baseball team around that ballplayer."
Lud's been on my fantasy team for a while
and is worthy of a starting spot.
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we're
10 games past the halfway point
but i think those numbers are realistic
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
Yadi speed
Ramirez coulda kicked that to second base – and still picked it up and thrown him out.
"He ran hard, but he didn't run fast. He runs like he's mad at the ground." - opposing broadcaster describing Yadi's speed.
even on the bigs 2
with turbo yadi is still slow
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
NBA JAM doesn't translate well to other sports...
save Super Strikers on Gamecube… that game is awesome
NFL Blitz?!
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jul 12, 2009 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions
MVP was the best
I hate that the series is done.
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Zack Greinke
Will have cabinet full of Cy Youngs by the time his career is done
by mysterui on Jul 12, 2009 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
me either
game me fits.
and i could almost never hit sinkers/splitters. if i saw pink i was taking all the way
R.P.O.F.Y.M.
I can't tell the difference between pink and red most of the time
My favorite pitchers to go against were the ones with 3 pitches, a fastball, one that had red as its color, and a changeup (green)
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jul 13, 2009 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
that was awful,
but amusing. i also loved the fact that the game over-valued really good players in trades. i got so many good young, cost-controlled players for edmonds and rolen.
cardinals are the things with feathers that perch within the soul.
I always turn on the "force trades" feature
so I could get anyone I wanted for Kip Wells.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Jul 12, 2009 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I still play MVP on my PS2
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jul 12, 2009 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I can't afford a PS3 right now, and I don't even have a HD TV
So it would be a dumb investment on my part. But I’d still probably play MVP ’05 on my PS2.
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jul 12, 2009 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I play MVP on occasion
but not very often.
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This.
Every baseball game outside of The Show is make by 2K. Obviously the 2K series, but also The Bigs and Power Pros. All 2Kgames…
V, b.
I completely agree...
I would make a comment, but it could be construed as political so I’ll abstain…
this year's Madden is the first in years
to add enough new features and actually try to improve the play on the field to be worth looking into. but they’ve now made me skeptical, so we’ll see
Well this years is supposed to fix
all that BS that took place in the last two years games.
by AWolfAtTheDoor on Jul 12, 2009 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not sure how the EA-NFL exclusive deal even hurt 2K...
No one bought their shitty NFL game anyway…
V, b.
I think
2K or Sony got the rights to make baseball video games. If you Googled it, you’d probably be able to find out.
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2k has them for wii/xbox
but sony can make there own. not sure what’s up w/ that distinction but i know that’s the case
This is true
But the new Show is actually better than MVP 05. It’s the first one to surpass MVP, which is pathetic.
Is there anyway
that the Show will ever come to 360 because I’m dying for a good baseball game
by AWolfAtTheDoor on Jul 12, 2009 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions
sorry that wasn't entirely clear
meaning Sony publishes it, not a 3rd party, so it won’t be on xbox ever
Oh ok I got you
I’m seriously starting to regret getting a 360 just for Halo
by AWolfAtTheDoor on Jul 12, 2009 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah it's a tough call
i had my 360 first and i like it better for online play but the ps3 exclusives (Metal Gear, Killzone, The Show, etc) are all great games and make good use of the bluray capabilities. At this point, it’s much more reasonably priced btw
said this the other day, not sure to who
but if you have a ps3, get The Show. Best baseball game since MVP ’05
I don't...
That’s the problem. Baseball games on the 360 have been nothing short of an epic fail. The 2K series is brutal…
V, b.
agreed
though I like the total control pitching/hitting function
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Jul 12, 2009 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions
i think it was to me.
or at least i was involved in the conversation. i’m definitely looking into it now. thanks for the heads up.
cardinals are the things with feathers that perch within the soul.
actually i like the bigs
and if you have not played it on the wii its a must…its a change of pace from the other games, and i liek the player development…this year they have you play with prospective HOFers adn against HOFers and they use one that arent always on certain games..
also i like that they have game challenges and cameos by Ted williams, Jackie robinson etc..
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
Ryan Ludwick rulz
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
I hope
the Cards don’t blow this lead like the last time they were up 4-1.
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well we could find welley
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
I'll pass
Welly’s sucked enough today.
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Why did you post this?
Is very bad to steal A-Pu's rum...is very bad.
by Power Slurve on Jul 12, 2009 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions
What do you mean "You think" he got that right?
The bat passed the plate by a foot and a half.
And Soriano quits on it.
Is very bad to steal A-Pu's rum...is very bad.
Dammit.
Is very bad to steal A-Pu's rum...is very bad.
got to cut it off, NOW
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
dang.
baron von bamf-bradley hits a double.
cardinals are the things with feathers that perch within the soul.
Looked like he hit a good pitch.
It happens.
Nice K
"He ran hard, but he didn't run fast. He runs like he's mad at the ground." - opposing broadcaster describing Yadi's speed.
Beautiful
didn’t waste a pitch to Baker
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that was a clinic in pitching backward
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
I hope he makes it another inning or two without any runs
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jul 12, 2009 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Hopefully
TLR will realize that there is no point in saving arms for tomorrow. Maybe Waino won’t be left in too long today. One can only hope.
by AWolfAtTheDoor on Jul 12, 2009 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Who's left in the pen? Miller? K-Mac, ???, Franklin?
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
Is Reyes back yet?
Or is he still dealing with the family stuff?
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jul 12, 2009 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions
in other news,
this new e-class from mercedes is going to make palestine and israel get along, solve hunger and aids in africa, and even alerts you if you start to doze off!!!111one
cardinals are the things with feathers that perch within the soul.
Can it make Ank stop whiffing? Dunc play acceptable defense?
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
all of these were,
unfortunately, overlooked by benz.
cardinals are the things with feathers that perch within the soul.
I really, really despise him.
Is very bad to steal A-Pu's rum...is very bad.
by Power Slurve on Jul 12, 2009 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Preferable to be the 9th pitch, get to the bullpen...
Dick and Dunk, the answer to your pitcher's problems...
Exactly. Work the count, wear out the starters, make him get you out.
Is very bad to steal A-Pu's rum...is very bad.
by Power Slurve on Jul 12, 2009 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions
"this cub fan was made for espn."
what’s the first thing you thought when you saw that sign?
cardinals are the things with feathers that perch within the soul.
poor kid
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
by 2 dudes.
"There are three things in my life which I really love: God, my family, and baseball. The only problem - once baseball season starts, I change the order around a bit." ~Al Gallagher, 1971
go cards.
by thecoolalonzo on Jul 12, 2009 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL @ Boog trying to grow a stache too
Anybody notice this?
Dick and Dunk, the answer to your pitcher's problems...
yeah.
I’ve pointed it out to my fiancee. she loves this whole stache thing going around. though she doesn’t want me to grow one.
DO IT!!!
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
same for me
been that way for 20+ yrs.
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Mute button?
I’ve been doing that with Al more and more. It works and makes me considerably happier. I know Al is just saying something dumb, but as they say, ignorance is bliss!
VivaElBirdos...Scoring less, but more frequently since approximately 1903.
by redbirdnation8206 on Jul 12, 2009 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm telling ya there needs to be a way to mute just one announcer at a time!
no joe
or
no al
or
no Fox NFL analyst
Why again is a 29 year old guy with no upside and who
Has a .250 slugging the last six weeks, plays blah defense, makes stupid errors, and swings at the first pitch is on this roster.
Please.
Is very bad to steal A-Pu's rum...is very bad.
That's what I meant by errors. I was inarticulate.
Is very bad to steal A-Pu's rum...is very bad.
by Power Slurve on Jul 12, 2009 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Craig is almost 25, he has almost 800 ABs at AA or above.
Give him a shot.
Is very bad to steal A-Pu's rum...is very bad.
by Power Slurve on Jul 12, 2009 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Tony cannot tell the difference between skill and hustle.
So if you husstle to a out on the basepath or max effort your way to a 5+ era you are gold.
what the heck just happened with the audio feed?
cardinals are the things with feathers that perch within the soul.
haha,
even the espn guys in the truck read veb.
cardinals are the things with feathers that perch within the soul.
which begs the question:
why are they working for espn?
cardinals are the things with feathers that perch within the soul.
The economy. They’re trying to change things from inside now that they’re stuck with it.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jul 12, 2009 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
i heard joe morgan say the same thing
7 times. funny? =P
cardinals are the things with feathers that perch within the soul.
Rushed It
I thought it was a sharp play, but he rushed the throw a bit which is risky (but did get it done).
I just picked up Ludwick in fantasy
Will use one of my other outfielders to trade for a top-level starting pitcher.
<3 <3 <3 Luddy
yea the bruce wrist thing really hurts the reds
may be the final nail
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
reds have 4.5% chance of reaching playoffs.
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/statistics/ps_odds.php
cardinals are the things with feathers that perch within the soul.
big bats!
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
i got a little shimmy at that, too
way too many pregnant friends/recent kids born with my friends right now
by Expatcardfan on Jul 12, 2009 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Joe just questioned the wisdom of giving up prospects for Halladay
and then in the same sentence questioned the wisdom of trading Halladay for prospects.
please let Joe Morgan become a GM
I’m picking the Nats. Can’t wait to see who he’d trade Strasburg and Zimmerman for
by Expatcardfan on Jul 12, 2009 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Dave Concepcion
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jul 12, 2009 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Joe Morgan: Genius?
The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposing ideas in mind at the same time and still retain the ability to function.
~ F. Scott Fitzgerald
The only trades that should ever happen are major league talent for major league talent...
anyone with have a brain knows that… duh
so, it's a bad idea
from all sides, huh?
cardinals are the things with feathers that perch within the soul.
91 pitches through 7
wainer could go the distance
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
Why are there rumors of us going after Halladay?
Yeah, he’s good, but I don’t feel like giving up Rasmus, Daryl Jones, Jason Motte, Brett Wallace, Bryan Anderson, Jess Todd, and a PTBNL that turns out to be Shelby Miller when he’s trade-eligible.
Not by much.
You’d still get him until the end of 2010, and the Jays are still contending (barely).
No way they’re trading one of the best starters in the majors for much less.
ummmmmm...
i thought you were sarcastic in the OP. you’re…serious?
cardinals are the things with feathers that perch within the soul.
the rumors are actually
that we’d give up albert pujols and let our stadium be named “rogers centre II,” as well.
cardinals are the things with feathers that perch within the soul.
Relax
There’s a very good chance it won’t happen. Mo wouldn’t give up a ton of talent for one guy.
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by zoomzoomj88 on Jul 12, 2009 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't worry
We won’t get him. We don’t want to trade that many spects, and I don’t think the $$$ is giong to work out.
No one has suggested that it's that much. Even the "5 prospects" tweet didn't include Raz, IIRC.
Is very bad to steal A-Pu's rum...is very bad.
by Power Slurve on Jul 12, 2009 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
couldn't do that
we haven’t signed miller. and if we did, we woudln’t be able to trade him this year.
But I would so give up Wallace, anderson, Todd and PTBNL for Halladay.
According to Miller ...
this is “The Great Pujols.” I think he should add a “, Charlie Brown” at the end of that.
by etp_stl on Jul 12, 2009 10:03 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Every time he says that he sounds like he’s being sarcastic and I don’t like it.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jul 12, 2009 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Ludwick is Pujols?
"There are three things in my life which I really love: God, my family, and baseball. The only problem - once baseball season starts, I change the order around a bit." ~Al Gallagher, 1971
go cards.
Absolutely
The pitch in the 1st was a hanger, but he tried to pull it rather than going up the middle or pushing it.
Albert has gotten jammed on everything today...
Including his double this afternoon. I wish he would skip the Derby…
V, b.
lets put Ank in the derby
maybe it’ll work. at the least, its 10 more swings of practice
by Expatcardfan on Jul 12, 2009 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Great angle, Bradley
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
Doublewick!
Man, he’s el fuego!
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ludwick.
he’s switched bodies with pujols before the game or something.
cardinals are the things with feathers that perch within the soul.
Good God, if we had one more guy behind Ludwick.
Like say, DeRosa….tear.
Is very bad to steal A-Pu's rum...is very bad.
Luddy now OPS 1.204 this month
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plus whatever that 2b adds in
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AnKiel
Yippee.
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strikeout from 3-0?
is that possible??
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Can we at least bat Molina 5th if we have to have
Ankiel or Duncan in the lineup?
I'd rather have John Doe in the lineup
than AnK or DunK
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by zoomzoomj88 on Jul 12, 2009 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Shennanigans card - win the lottery. Sad, though here comes anK - inning's over
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
Boy...
glad we didn’t trade this guy for Holliday.
As a proponent of that trade as of a week ago, I declare myself to have been wrong. First time ever!
Maybe we can package Ank, Dunk, Thursty, Welly and national debt relief for Holliday
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HL Mencken
I think the deal starts w/ those 4
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AnKiel's a DICK
Swingin’ on 3-0. Holy --.
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ankiel is actually
making contact today. that’s encouraging.
cardinals are the things with feathers that perch within the soul.
WTF WHY IS ANKIEL HITTING 3-0 PITCHES....
THROWS TV OUT THE DAMN WINDOW
Dick and Dunk, the answer to your pitcher's problems...
can lose a lot of tvs that way
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
by sportsman on Jul 12, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
thank you for expressing the anger for me
ankiel’s struggles have defeated me to the point of abject apathy
Can we force Ankiel to go back on the mound now?
He sure as hell is hitting like a pitcher.
psh
he hit better than this when he was a pitcher.
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 12, 2009 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
VEB should start a petition
on getting rid of the Not-So Fab Five (see my sig)
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halladay
would probably = a cc type haul the tribe got for him
starts with wallace and goes on form there (don’t rember who else they got)
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
not worth it
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by zoomzoomj88 on Jul 12, 2009 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
LaPorta and Brantley. I don’t what the Brantley equivalent in the Cards system is.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jul 12, 2009 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Except CC was a FA at the end of the year
and Roy’s got a year and a half left.
That extra year’s BIG, in terms of what’s needed to give up to get him,
When DeRosa comes back, I dont ever wanna see Ank/Dun
ever again…
Dick and Dunk, the answer to your pitcher's problems...
What about Worston?
Is very bad to steal A-Pu's rum...is very bad.
by Power Slurve on Jul 12, 2009 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Hopefully we get Glaus back...
doubtful I know…
Dick and Dunk, the answer to your pitcher's problems...
Or a happy K. Greene...
Don’t worry, be happy
Dick and Dunk, the answer to your pitcher's problems...
That's the problem.
DeRosa is a decent MI bat. His numbers don’t pencil him in as a real upgrade for the number 5 hole in the lineup, and the Cards have two holes in the order at 5 & 6. This team needs DeRosa and a bat to contend.
one more time as a reminder
is DeRosa a FA this year or next?
by Expatcardfan on Jul 12, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Is Rick 0-fer his last 10 games or so?
I just can’t remember the last time he got a legitimate hit
"He ran hard, but he didn't run fast. He runs like he's mad at the ground." - opposing broadcaster describing Yadi's speed.
edging closer to the Mendoza line
now at .215
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Probably been hitting .003 in his last 10 games.
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by zoomzoomj88 on Jul 12, 2009 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
2-27 now, I believe.
Is very bad to steal A-Pu's rum...is very bad.
by Power Slurve on Jul 12, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe 0 for July, and one for June
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HL Mencken
Frickin' lovely
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by zoomzoomj88 on Jul 12, 2009 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
And he got thrown out at 2nd the one time he did get on
.157 .211 .229 since June 13.
Not afraid to nitpick
that's beyond brutal
"He ran hard, but he didn't run fast. He runs like he's mad at the ground." - opposing broadcaster describing Yadi's speed.
.228 OPS in July.
Every number is terrible.
by notmorganfreeman on Jul 12, 2009 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Good play Boog
Adam was pissed at that pitch
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
Boog is full of win.
Is very bad to steal A-Pu's rum...is very bad.
My bad
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HL Mencken
but if he keeps playing that deep
he’ll never get to a ball up the middle. . . according to the everwise joe morgan
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
told to stay away until he gets more help
I believe
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Dunno
I’m more worried about him the person than him the player. The Cards are fine if he doesn’t play anymore for them this year. I’m not sure if he’s fine if he does play for them again this year.
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jul 12, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
i want to sit next to Joe Morgan at Thanksgiving
by Expatcardfan on Jul 12, 2009 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
He doesn’t even know.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jul 12, 2009 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
he's just talkin
and no one (but miller/phillips) cares to listen
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by zoomzoomj88 on Jul 12, 2009 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Boog is better overall this year
Iz2 was a bit better, but not much
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I loved Royce Clayton...
I cried when he was traded. I was pretty young at the time obviously…
V, b.
I hated the fact that Clayton
was penciled in over Ozzie. At least thats how I remember it going down
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Jul 12, 2009 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
That wasn't Clayton's fault.
And, to be fair, Clayton had way more range and arm by that point in Ozzie’s career. I still think LaRussa was wrong in how he went about it.
I wasnt blaming Clayton
Clayton was a good, young, strong armed SS. Ozzie was getting older and slower, but he is a Legend.
I agree with you about TLR
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Jul 12, 2009 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, Clayton was gonna get hosed.
There’s no way around that. He was in a no win situation, and he never did really develop any discernible offensive skills. Consequently, when your biggest asset is defensive prowess, it’s not going to be good to be replacing the greatest defensive shortstop that ever lived.
Ozzie never did have a great arm, anyway. He had a tremendously fast release, though.
By UZR
Ryan is one run saved shy of Izturis already this year compared to Izturis’ 2008.
Not afraid to nitpick
and MUCH better w/the bat
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wat
player deeper mean he gets to fewer balls?
wat
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
wat?
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Jul 12, 2009 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
they were saying
that boog can’t get to as many balls when he plays so deep
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Jul 12, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I know, I was just messin around
it was funnier in my head
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Jul 12, 2009 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
When did you become a meteorologist?
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jul 12, 2009 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
holy hell it's the bottom of the eighth
who turned the jets on this game?
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 12, 2009 10:11 PM EDT reply actions
Boog
…has changed his swing a bit of late.
A couple of weeks ago he was doing the Pujols no stride, heel lift thing with his front leg and now he’s channeling Soriano.
If you were a hitter, which of the two would you channel?
That fastball was filthy, and deserved a reverse K.
Is very bad to steal A-Pu's rum...is very bad.
its ok
you can still throw a slider out of the strike zone
by Expatcardfan on Jul 12, 2009 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL...Soriano absolutely sucks.
Is very bad to steal A-Pu's rum...is very bad.
and he's a flub
two for one special
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I vote Waino for CG.
Let’s take no chances here, even with Franklin.
waino is a stud!
who was it that said we needed a pitcher who wouldn’t give up leads?
cardinals are the things with feathers that perch within the soul.
Yes, boo your own players that have giant contracts
Please boo your own players Chicago, let them know they made a mistake signing with the Cubs.
Dick and Dunk, the answer to your pitcher's problems...
Cubs fans
don’t know anything better to do.
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by zoomzoomj88 on Jul 12, 2009 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
does tony run him back out there?
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does the pope shit in the woods
is the bear catholic?
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Should, but knowing TLR, probably not
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by zoomzoomj88 on Jul 12, 2009 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
102
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by prophetjohn on Jul 12, 2009 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions
wainwright's a stud
who did we give up for him again?
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 12, 2009 10:14 PM EDT reply actions
I bet Marrero could come out of whatever retirement he's in
and hit better than Ank and Dunc.
by MichiganBird on Jul 12, 2009 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions
The average Joe
could hit better than AnK and DunK right now.
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by zoomzoomj88 on Jul 12, 2009 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions
we have an average Joe
he’s batting now
by Expatcardfan on Jul 12, 2009 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Disagree
That’s a way-below average Joe.
by MichiganBird on Jul 12, 2009 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
well, at least we got one future all star out of that
by Expatcardfan on Jul 12, 2009 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions
betty is an all star, no?
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HEY! GREAT STICK SAVE BY THURSTON!
But I’ll be damned if we got it on camera, so you’ll just have to take our word for it.
Radio guys talking Waino in the past tense. Be like he's through with the throes of throws
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LOL Theriot
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
I can only wonder
what BCB is sayin’ about this.
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by zoomzoomj88 on Jul 12, 2009 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
haha
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
E6
But we better score…
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It'd be nice
if we didn’t have him and his 7.3 40 haulin’ to home plate.
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by zoomzoomj88 on Jul 12, 2009 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
they timed Yadi’s 40 with a Sun dial in High School.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Jul 12, 2009 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Who doesn't believe Thursty's bunting?
Whoops—the unintentional reverse jinx!
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wow
wainer’s out
i’m surprised
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He might as well hit for himself.
Better than the rest of the bench.
by notmorganfreeman on Jul 12, 2009 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Me too
I’m surprised TLR forgot he had to keep the bullpen fresh for the ASG
by AWolfAtTheDoor on Jul 12, 2009 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Who knows what the Genius knows? Only the Genius. . .
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I'm not
Typical Tony.
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by zoomzoomj88 on Jul 12, 2009 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Pleasantly
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by jd is legend on Jul 12, 2009 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
oooh duncan.
yay franklins! i’m sure glad we’re winning. =)
cardinals are the things with feathers that perch within the soul.
duncan hitting for albert
little surprised. but not upset. he has thrown 110+ in his last two starts
Could be b/c
APu is in the HR Derby tmrw?
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by zoomzoomj88 on Jul 12, 2009 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
good job A(&)W
poured the good root beer tonight
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That doesn't sound too bad
but I’d have to settle for Barq’s (which has bite).
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by zoomzoomj88 on Jul 12, 2009 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he would have sent him out
lets hope Duncan isn’t the jinx. Waino looked like he was taking it personally. I like that allot.
need one of those clutch Stav singles here
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I'm happy we didn't re-sign Miles now
I like the Schu Experiment.
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by zoomzoomj88 on Jul 12, 2009 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh... you were talking about Stav
Heh… I’m an idiot.
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by zoomzoomj88 on Jul 12, 2009 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I was pissed we resigned him the first time
No need to pay the token gritty player 1.5 mil, much less 4.5 mil.
i remember durring the WBC
someone called him “one of the top closers in the Major Leagues right now.”
heh
Marmol AND Heilman?!
We’re in for a treat.
by notmorganfreeman on Jul 12, 2009 10:21 PM EDT reply actions
Aaron Heilman
GREAT times…
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by zoomzoomj88 on Jul 12, 2009 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
no matter how long it takes
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Took ball 5.
Good enough.
Is very bad to steal A-Pu's rum...is very bad.
by Power Slurve on Jul 12, 2009 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Heilman isn't good enough to wear stupid socks
Someone should tell him to stop drawing attention to himself when he’s that bad at pitching.
Boog Slam?
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Woo Hoo
Ball 4!! Loaded with no out
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Good eye, Stavy
let go, BOOOOOOOOG!
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It'd be nice to get some insurance runs.
Let’s finish the Scrubbies off, boys.
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by zoomzoomj88 on Jul 12, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions
nah
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by zoomzoomj88 on Jul 12, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I really need to go to bed
but I cant leave with the bases loaded, and it being the 8th inning.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
that is even better!
Thanks, Im a bit slow tonight
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Jul 12, 2009 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
They're not Louuuing
They’re saying Boo!!
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Please God bring in Heilman
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TLR is fuming
He can’t believe he didn’t think of this first!
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jul 12, 2009 10:24 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Our left-fielder woes could be solved by one Dennys.
by notmorganfreeman on Jul 12, 2009 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Which I think Lou should have done, too
isn’t it more Likely the RH Ryan hits a ball to LF?
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That's a rec
I don’t care who you are, that’s funny (and true) right there
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Heilman or Marmol coming in?
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Heh, it's interesting, but it's Brendan Freaking Ryan
It’s not like Marshall can’t possibly pitch to him.
Bet Tony's pissed he didn't get to first
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Bobby Cox did it last year
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by jd is legend on Jul 12, 2009 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
it's incredibly awesome.
i’m laughing right now.
cardinals are the things with feathers that perch within the soul.
marshell goes to left...
Defensive upgrade1
by Evilfrog on Jul 12, 2009 10:24 PM EDT reply actions 9 recs
Hit one to left, Boog!
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by zoomzoomj88 on Jul 12, 2009 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Rec.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jul 12, 2009 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
ha, pinella
i like it
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LOL MARSHALL IN LEFT
Please hit the ball to left!!!!!
Dick and Dunk, the answer to your pitcher's problems...
the pitcher is playing lf!
awesome-sauce!
cardinals are the things with feathers that perch within the soul.
This just got hilarious.
All to bring in Pileman.
Is very bad to steal A-Pu's rum...is very bad.
Heilman!
Maybe Lou is pulling a Tony and giving the game to us.
GS???
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I hope this blows up in Lou's face
Like a meth lab gone horribly awry
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Nice - an - Izzy-like 9th for the Cubs. What can Lou say? No more walks or errors?
OK, skip. We’ll hold them until Ank comes up again.
That’s the plan!
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
And you guys make fun of Tony's moves.....
Geez.
Say you were standing with one foot in the oven and one foot in an ice bucket. According to the percentage people, you should be perfectly comfortable." - Manager Bobby Bragan
is this actually HAPPENING?
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
I've never seen this play by Lew
Tony will PH Hoffpauir.
I'm calling a ridiculous Cubs injury right now
by AWolfAtTheDoor on Jul 12, 2009 10:26 PM EDT reply actions
Please let it be Soriano or Lee.
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by zoomzoomj88 on Jul 12, 2009 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Soriano ARam
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by zoomzoomj88 on Jul 12, 2009 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Marshall pulls an ovary
going after Boog’s double down the line
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E-7
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I like it!
I wish more teams would do things like this.
Particularly if it means leaving guys like Marshall in the game.
Ball outta the Infield.Ball outta the Infield.Ball outta the Infield.Ball outta the Infield.Ball outta the Infield
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I like how the Cubs fans cheered when Soriano got lifted
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
Crap - Tony taking notes like a mad man. Just wait, we'll see Diner in the outfield, Motte behind the plate and Larue on the mound
soon . . .
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HL Mencken
the question i have is, has Tony ever pulled this stunt?
he’s gotta be fussy as hell if Lou beat him to it
Nice job holding off that slider.
Is very bad to steal A-Pu's rum...is very bad.
do you dare start the runners?
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Dammit Boog
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
C'mon Boog
Sh..
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Buried it in on his hands twice.
Is very bad to steal A-Pu's rum...is very bad.
Not a single pitch in the zone to Boog
All you had to do was keep the bat on the shoulder and you would have had an RBI
Dick and Dunk, the answer to your pitcher's problems...
Ah Boog
can’t lay off the high heat
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What TLR's probably saying to the ump
“Damn, Lou beat me to a crazy move like that.”
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That last Morgan comment
went beyond stupidity into making absolutely no sense.
by AWolfAtTheDoor on Jul 12, 2009 10:31 PM EDT reply actions
ALL Morgan and Miller comments
are that way
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by zoomzoomj88 on Jul 12, 2009 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
He just admitted he had no idea what he was talking about. Progress
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by ClemsonGirl on Jul 12, 2009 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Well I'm just hoping for Morgan to say LFer one more time.
A LFer is a LFer and a P is a P and thats why a LFer is a LFer and once you go in LF you are a LFer. Umm sorry what?
by AWolfAtTheDoor on Jul 12, 2009 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Call and raise you $4
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by zoomzoomj88 on Jul 12, 2009 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions
We know.
And it’s sad that he’s still with ESPN.
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by zoomzoomj88 on Jul 12, 2009 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Gotta give Tony credit there.
Not many managers would have caught that.
Is very bad to steal A-Pu's rum...is very bad.
Come on kid.
Make up for your namesake’s misdeeds in game 1.
gotta go yall
old friend called. definitely have to take this one.
GO CARDS!
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
Miller's in the Scripps Spelling Bee?
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Whitey not only did this move often
but he did it in the 87 playoffs against the Giants with Daley and Worrell.
cause hoffberger
and hoffpauir sound the same. there’s also a pub in germany called the hoffbrauhaus.
cardinals are the things with feathers that perch within the soul.
You could tell
by the swing that Albert told him think Sac fly.
Ball outta the Infield.Ball outta the Infield.Ball outta the Infield.Ball outta the Infield.Ball outta the Infield
try again
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soo..
My boyfriend, my brother and 4 of my closest friends are on their way back from Chicago from a bachelor party….All of whom are Card’s fans…I just saw the Hangover…I am scared…
"There are three things in my life which I really love: God, my family, and baseball. The only problem - once baseball season starts, I change the order around a bit." ~Al Gallagher, 1971
go cards.
quite possibly the funniest movie ever
and you should be scared.
I would actually think about getting married if I could be promised a BP like the one on The Hangover.*
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Jul 13, 2009 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Looks like a guy pitching to his kid there.
Hoff is about a foot shorter than this pitcher.
Can't even make productive outs.
Terrible.
Is very bad to steal A-Pu's rum...is very bad.
Ugh
Two straight ABs that were TOO aggressive
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
Hoff hassled
Nice K.
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That's the problem.
A week ago he was inept, and it was only Pujols. Or, it was only Rasmus. There’s just no offensive depth, and this is the worst bench the Cardinals have had in the LaRussa era.
i wonder
which team morgan likes
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
Lou needs to realize
if their name isn’t Pujols, they can’t hit Marshall. No need for the left field shenanigans.
If we don't score here...
it’ll be an ugly bottom of the 9th
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holy shit
"I remember once talking to one guy on the Cardinals and asking him what Pujols was like as a teammate. He said something that’s really special, if you think about it. He said: "Albert is so good that you feel like you let him down when you screw up." I thought that had to be the ultimate line that could ever be said about a ballplayer. I build my baseball team around that ballplayer."
by Smokin Turkeys on Jul 12, 2009 10:35 PM EDT reply actions
you are correct
it did not, in fact, happen
"He ran hard, but he didn't run fast. He runs like he's mad at the ground." - opposing broadcaster describing Yadi's speed.
Wasn’t a catch.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jul 12, 2009 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
trap
"I remember once talking to one guy on the Cardinals and asking him what Pujols was like as a teammate. He said something that’s really special, if you think about it. He said: "Albert is so good that you feel like you let him down when you screw up." I thought that had to be the ultimate line that could ever be said about a ballplayer. I build my baseball team around that ballplayer."
by Smokin Turkeys on Jul 12, 2009 10:35 PM EDT reply actions
NOT A CATCH
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
What BS
TRAP!!!
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Least-favorite "rule" in all of baseball
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by jd is legend on Jul 12, 2009 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
THAT BOUNCED!
"He ran hard, but he didn't run fast. He runs like he's mad at the ground." - opposing broadcaster describing Yadi's speed.
NOT A CATCH!!
Is very bad to steal A-Pu's rum...is very bad.
he trapped it
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
trap
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
making me nervous
to let such an opportunity get away
plus, it was not a catch!!!!!
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I'm extremely worried about the bottom of the 9th
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
just get MB out and we will be fine
I refuse to believe that this turn of events will affect frank
"I remember once talking to one guy on the Cardinals and asking him what Pujols was like as a teammate. He said something that’s really special, if you think about it. He said: "Albert is so good that you feel like you let him down when you screw up." I thought that had to be the ultimate line that could ever be said about a ballplayer. I build my baseball team around that ballplayer."
by Smokin Turkeys on Jul 12, 2009 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Trapped it
but I expect nothing less from this crew.
fuck major league baseball umpires and their clear cubs biased home umpiring
Fucking horrible, fucking joke.
Fuck.
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by jd is legend on Jul 12, 2009 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Not a reviewable play, I guess
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FUggggggggggg. Play at home in the first game and now this. . ..
Bad medicine. . . . bad ju ju
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This is getting preposterous.
This is one of the worst displays of umpiring across an entire series that I’ve seen in years.
Is very bad to steal A-Pu's rum...is very bad.
He's on their lawn
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by jd is legend on Jul 12, 2009 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
They’ve been talking to Al.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jul 12, 2009 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
i've never caught a fly ball with my glove facing down
utter bullshit
How depressing is it being you? Is it closer to being a lifelong cubs fan or being born without lips? - Janitor
These pricks...
announcing the game will not acknowledge what’s before there eyes.
The great catch narrative is more interesting.
That's a pretty tough call to talk about fining.
It was a trap, but I couldn’t tell on the first look.
its not your job, though
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by themanthemyth on Jul 12, 2009 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
No, but they're still human.
I’ve been an official, and there are going to be calls that are missed. You have to ask whether or not it’s reasonable to get the call right every time. Pujols gets payed to catch routine balls, but he had one go through his legs in the first game today. Does he deserve to be fined, as well? That was much more aggregious an error than the one the umpire just made.
I'm not any too excited
about this next half-inning.
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He tried to, anyway
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by zoomzoomj88 on Jul 12, 2009 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't worry he managed to mess it up
by saying that replay for plays like that would be an awful idea.
by AWolfAtTheDoor on Jul 12, 2009 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Question: did any of our relievers start warming up while the shenanigans went on?
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
franklin sucks!
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
i am not a fan of replay
because it would fix things like what just happened.
cardinals are the things with feathers that perch within the soul.
Fix the ones that clearly affect major shifts in the game
Let the umps decide which ones those are.
Better to make the games long than make the games wrong.
He's the worst
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jul 12, 2009 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
he's terrible
"He ran hard, but he didn't run fast. He runs like he's mad at the ground." - opposing broadcaster describing Yadi's speed.
I don't know about that, but he's a hideous guy
Uglier than Braden Looper and John Lackey. Terrible…uh…face.
Oh, and the worst pitcher since Kip Wells
I mean, what a bum this guy is when throwing the ball toward home plate in the course of delivering a pitch.
Wow, Joe Morgan
He called it a trap, proving that even a broken watch is right twice a day
It's a funny name.
Franklin
not worthy of an ASG nod… not by a long shot. God… he’s terrible.
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you suck franklin
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Not sure why
But this is the most nervous I’ve been about a Cardinals game since October, 2006
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
No
Bottled water and Chex Mix?
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jul 12, 2009 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
with the break coming up this is a huge game to finish off the roadtrip
"I remember once talking to one guy on the Cardinals and asking him what Pujols was like as a teammate. He said something that’s really special, if you think about it. He said: "Albert is so good that you feel like you let him down when you screw up." I thought that had to be the ultimate line that could ever be said about a ballplayer. I build my baseball team around that ballplayer."
by Smokin Turkeys on Jul 12, 2009 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
STFD and STFU, Bradley.
Is very bad to steal A-Pu's rum...is very bad.
That wasn't as explosive as I hoped it would be
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jul 12, 2009 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I figured you could have fitted him for an ejection seat after that one.
Is very bad to steal A-Pu's rum...is very bad.
by Power Slurve on Jul 12, 2009 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I was hoping he'd tear his ACL like last season
The St. Louis Cardinals have the Not-So-Fab Five: Wellemeyer, Thurston, Ankiel, Duncan and Thompson.
by zoomzoomj88 on Jul 12, 2009 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Not sure that was a strike
but they owe us
"He ran hard, but he didn't run fast. He runs like he's mad at the ground." - opposing broadcaster describing Yadi's speed.
pretty sure it wasn't
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
Well franklin threw it and he sucks so it probably wasn’t.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jul 12, 2009 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow does Franklin suck
Terrible strike out
Thoughts on the Vikings, Buckeyes, and Cardinals
www.purplebuckeye.blogspot.com
a proper pitcher would have gotten a ground out
franklin is a fascist
Another one.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jul 12, 2009 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Yikes
That was a seed into the stands
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
That's natural selection in progress.
Is very bad to steal A-Pu's rum...is very bad.
by Power Slurve on Jul 12, 2009 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
To rec or FLAG
I’m gonna rec
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jul 12, 2009 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
two called k's
the crew is making amends
by BirdsonFire on Jul 12, 2009 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
HAHAHAHA
Is very bad to steal A-Pu's rum...is very bad.
Another K....
terrible job, Franklin.
The St. Louis Cardinals have the Not-So-Fab Five: Wellemeyer, Thurston, Ankiel, Duncan and Thompson.
Can we please get a real closer?
This guy is terrible!
HEZ NO FUENTEZZZZ!!
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jul 12, 2009 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
he sucks!
two horrible strikeouts.
cardinals are the things with feathers that perch within the soul.
more terribler umpiring
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
They aren't
Franklin is a terrible pitcher, BTW.
by mojowo11 on Jul 12, 2009 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
No
The St. Louis Cardinals have the Not-So-Fab Five: Wellemeyer, Thurston, Ankiel, Duncan and Thompson.
by zoomzoomj88 on Jul 12, 2009 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
There just aren't enough Hoffpauirs.
Is very bad to steal A-Pu's rum...is very bad.
by Power Slurve on Jul 12, 2009 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
actually, they're not.
which i refuse to believe.
cardinals are the things with feathers that perch within the soul.
No but the Orioles had a manager named Hoffberger.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jul 12, 2009 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Not by blood but by pine
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
Why is he still a Cardinal?
He’s so awful….
The St. Louis Cardinals have the Not-So-Fab Five: Wellemeyer, Thurston, Ankiel, Duncan and Thompson.
B O R I N G Do we still have strings on Izzy?
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
WINNER!
The St. Louis Cardinals have the Not-So-Fab Five: Wellemeyer, Thurston, Ankiel, Duncan and Thompson.
That was the worst save I've ever seen
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
how do you take that pitch?
after the 1st 2 hitter got punched
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
perfect pitch
"He ran hard, but he didn't run fast. He runs like he's mad at the ground." - opposing broadcaster describing Yadi's speed.
Ks the side!
He SUCKS.
"He ran hard, but he didn't run fast. He runs like he's mad at the ground." - opposing broadcaster describing Yadi's speed.
wayb to close out the first half
WINNNNNAAAAARRRRRRRRRRR
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
Wow
He sucks so much!
"I remember once talking to one guy on the Cardinals and asking him what Pujols was like as a teammate. He said something that’s really special, if you think about it. He said: "Albert is so good that you feel like you let him down when you screw up." I thought that had to be the ultimate line that could ever be said about a ballplayer. I build my baseball team around that ballplayer."
by Smokin Turkeys on Jul 12, 2009 10:45 PM EDT reply actions
Too bad the Clete Thomas approach didn't work for you, Scrubs.
Is very bad to steal A-Pu's rum...is very bad.
3 called k's
wtf
seriously, wtf
how did we lose to that bunch of crap twice
answer
thompson, lohse
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
i don't want an answer
i want to complain
by BirdsonFire on Jul 12, 2009 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
1st place at the AS Break, boys & girls
not too shabby
Proud sponsor of the Official 2009 StL Cardinal theme song: Reason to Believe
3rd base ump a Cub fan
Home plate ump (and God) a Cardinal fan
Thoughts on the Vikings, Buckeyes, and Cardinals
www.purplebuckeye.blogspot.com
okay, seriously, though
it feels good to win. =) i’m out guys.
cardinals are the things with feathers that perch within the soul.
Lud is a Cub killah!
Making history against the schlubs!
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
that was a hilarious 9th inning
keep on lookin guys, obv the ump is calling it. i love how the cubs hitters made no effort to protect the plate w/ 2 strikes
no, he's terrible
he doesn’t have a clue where the ball is going.
he sucks
"He ran hard, but he didn't run fast. He runs like he's mad at the ground." - opposing broadcaster describing Yadi's speed.
Context?
I’m sorry, but I’m missing the context of the whole Franklin thing.
How much of this is irony?
I ask because Franklin was painting it tonight.
No, he blows
The moment we try to acknowledge his success this year (even though he still sucks), we’ll jinx him. The bum.
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jul 12, 2009 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Well in that Case...
…I hope he breaks a leg leaving the clubhouse and puts himself, and us, out of our misery.
he sucks so bad he couldn't even break a leg right
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Jul 13, 2009 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions
ump assisted save
I guess they didn’t want to be the topic of sportscenter after the blown trap call.
Lou pissed them off more than TLR
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jul 12, 2009 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I feel like running around the Wrigley infield with my middle fingers extended, Lesnar style.
Is very bad to steal A-Pu's rum...is very bad.
I am OVERJOYED no one is injured
That we know of.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jul 12, 2009 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Really?
Other than bruised ego?
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jul 12, 2009 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
He Was Really Wild
That looked like more than just a rushing problem to me.
Of course, in trying to fix his mechanics they could have broken his timing.
I should point out that he's been wild literally his entire career.
The only time he’s even had okay control was last season, but every single other season he’s had walk rates over 4.0.
VivaElBirdos...Scoring less, but more frequently since approximately 1903.
by redbirdnation8206 on Jul 12, 2009 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Career Walk Rate: 4.35
2008 Walk Rate: 4.05
He’s actually shown a greater ability to throw strikes this season than any for the rest of his career. As for hitting spots? Well he’s never really done that either. Keep in mind that control is throwing the ball over the plate for strikes and command is the ability to spot your best stuff consistently. When he was more of a gas-thrower, he had neither. Last year he could throw strikes, but not necessarily spotted…he got by on stuff. Now he’s pitching more like they guy he’s always been, but since he’s a starter he doesn’t rear back and throw like he used to.
Could he be hurt? Sure I suppose so…because like you I have no access to his current medical reports or any knowledge of what his arm feels like. On the other hand, statistically Wellemeyer is simply pitching the way he’s always pitched with 2008 seeming more and more like a very large outlier…and his BB rate was still 3.71, which isn’t very good.
Look at his game logs: Was he healthy July 2nd, but not the game before or after? Was he unhealthy on May 17th when he walked 7, but then suddenly healthy again when he started throwing more strikes?
Here’s how I see this, you and I are hearing hooves…but I’m guessing horse and you’re guessing zebra. The guy has spent his whole career being a wild pitcher with minimal control AND command. So, to me, the most obvious explanation is a pitcher going back to what he’s always done.
VivaElBirdos...Scoring less, but more frequently since approximately 1903.
by redbirdnation8206 on Jul 13, 2009 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm not ashamed
But I think we could have won a couple of other games. But good trip on the road overall…
Dick and Dunk, the answer to your pitcher's problems...
We won more than we lost on the road against our biggest competition for the NLC crown
I’m pumped
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jul 12, 2009 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
seriously tho
of all the blown calls, the two big ones were LaRue’s foot on the plate this after noon and the “trap” in LF. Both went against us; both were, or could have been, game changers.
losing this afternoon
was tlr at his “i’m the smartest” at its best
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
Carpenter vs. Haren...
at Busch next Friday. Should be a good one.
Maybe Manual will abuse Haren at the ASG. One can only hope…
I wouldn't think so
Haren is going to be pitching in the All Star game I wouldn’t think they’d give him 3 days rest even if it is only an inning, keeps the routine up.
Not afraid to nitpick
If I were them
I wouldn’t even have Haren pitch against the Cardinals. Yusmeiro Petit has the highest HR rate in MLB history for anyone >150 innings and they go to Coors after the Cardinals series….I’d go Davis Garland Petit in STL and then Haren Scherzer Davis in Coors.
Not afraid to nitpick
Didn't Petit shut us down last year or the year before?
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jul 12, 2009 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions
bigger question
will haren pitch to dero?
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
I wish Albert wasn't in it
hopefully no harm will be done, but my basic feeling is,, he doesn’t need to prove anything.
I'm glad that those of us in St. Louis
get a bunch of home games DURING the break.
"There are three things in my life which I really love: God, my family, and baseball. The only problem - once baseball season starts, I change the order around a bit." ~Al Gallagher, 1971
go cards.
by thecoolalonzo on Jul 12, 2009 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
thank you both!
I think this will be really good for the city!
"There are three things in my life which I really love: God, my family, and baseball. The only problem - once baseball season starts, I change the order around a bit." ~Al Gallagher, 1971
go cards.
by thecoolalonzo on Jul 12, 2009 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh yes...
The ever-exciting “celebrity” softball game. And I wasn’t thinking of the Derby as a game either. Excuse my confusion…
V, b.
in the words of Al Gore,
no need to get snippy.
I think many people are excited about the all star break
"There are three things in my life which I really love: God, my family, and baseball. The only problem - once baseball season starts, I change the order around a bit." ~Al Gallagher, 1971
go cards.
by thecoolalonzo on Jul 12, 2009 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
The Futures game today was a lot of fun, to me.
I love watching young ballplayers versus degrading veterans.
+1 on both accounts
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jul 12, 2009 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions
awesome!
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Jul 13, 2009 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Nice wrap up. Will the team ever go ten over 500 through?
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
there once
but who knows the future?
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
yeah
april
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Jul 12, 2009 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
After seeing the review on SC
The catch was a trap. How can baseball solve situations like this?
"There are three things in my life which I really love: God, my family, and baseball. The only problem - once baseball season starts, I change the order around a bit." ~Al Gallagher, 1971
go cards.
Overhead Views
In (mild) defense of the umps, it’s going to be hard to see the trap from the field level (or simply with the naked eye).
It’s much more obvious when viewed from a higher angle (and in slow motion).
I would put a 5th ump in front of a monitor and have him over-rule calls like those (perhaps with limited numbers of challenges ala the NFL). I know that there are ump supervisors at many games monitoring the pace of play, so maybe give the review job to them (so you don’t have to add to payroll).
Of course, the issue is what do you do when there are runners on base. Where do the runners end up once you rule that the ball was caught? Do they go back where they were?
The scheme above only works well when the bases are empty.
I'd say in tonight's game
You award Colby a single and move every runner up a base.
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jul 12, 2009 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
You don't.
Part of the beauty of the game is the human element. This wasn’t an horrifically bad call. Twenty years ago you wouldn’t have had camera coverage for every square inch of the playing field, and people would be talking about the great recovery Johnson made to catch the ball. Shit happens, and you move on. The Cardinals won the game.
I hate the overthinking that has taken over the game. If we ever go to excessive instant replay and automated strikezone calls, that will be the day I quit watching baseball. That’s not hyperbole. I am a person that has lived and breathed Cardinals baseball for nearly 3 decades, but that’ll be the end of it.
Football's Replay Has Made Stupid Referees.
The quality of officiating has gone down significantly since the re-institution of instant replay. They don’t both to try to make the right call, as they know it will be reviewed anyway; so now they just make the call that’s easiest to overturn. It makes the game slow, but football is slow. So, nobody seems to notice that it breaks the flow of the game.
As you can probably tell, I don’t like it there, either. Between that, and the damned showboating, I don’t have much use for watching football anymore, either. I found that I got into fantasy football, because it was more interesting than watching the games anymore.
i completely agree about football
and i used to really love watching it… baseball is much better re: showboating- you just don’t see it very often.
I want to be the no-talent ass clown!
by RosevilleRedbird on Jul 13, 2009 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions
No, that's not part of the beauty
The sooner the umpire is eliminated from baseball, the better off baseball will be.
Just leaving wrigley!
Should have been 7-2 but I can’t complain it was a great game! Go cards!
by cardfan124 on Jul 12, 2009 11:23 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-strange-cubs-injuries-pictures,0,6767956.photogallery?index=chi-16908561_h15418243120090707194649
lol
"There are three things in my life which I really love: God, my family, and baseball. The only problem - once baseball season starts, I change the order around a bit." ~Al Gallagher, 1971
go cards.
Format FAIL
Just say no to links in the subject!
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jul 12, 2009 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Luddy
raised his OPS from .783 to .829 today
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jul 12, 2009 11:34 PM EDT reply actions
4 homers and 18 RBI's
in 12 games in July
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jul 12, 2009 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Last night, my mom gave me an autographed Ludwick baseball card.
I was overjoyed. He really has turned into something that I didn’t expect him to.
"There are three things in my life which I really love: God, my family, and baseball. The only problem - once baseball season starts, I change the order around a bit." ~Al Gallagher, 1971
go cards.
by thecoolalonzo on Jul 12, 2009 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
oops!
Sorry, JD,
I didn’t know!
"There are three things in my life which I really love: God, my family, and baseball. The only problem - once baseball season starts, I change the order around a bit." ~Al Gallagher, 1971
go cards.
So when did Ryan start playing left field?
I live in Chicagoland so I don’t get to see his positioning that often.
He was out there for several different players in this series. Is he positioned out there a lot?
Tony on Piniella's move to put Sean Marshall in LF
Cardinals manager Tony La Russa was so impressed by Piniella’s move he stopped Cubs first base coach Matt Sinatro to pass on his message.
“I stopped Sinatro and said you tell Lou that was a classic. It was fun to be a part of it no matter how it turns out. It takes creativity and it takes guts. Lou showed both of them. That was fun actually. It was terrific,” said La Russa.
per ESPN recap
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
well that was nice of tony
ot: is anyone going looking for the reeboks baseballs tommorow?
by from First to Third on Jul 13, 2009 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions
I assumed that's what he called
Sinatro over about, but then I thought Tony and Lou have to have each others numbers. Couldn’t he have just called him?
"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah
Bobby Cox did it last year
it wasn’t THAT impressive. Unfortunately for Cox, it blew up in his face.
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 13, 2009 3:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Things we learned this weekend
1) Ryan Ludwick is not dead.
2) Todd Wellemeyer should not be employed on Monday morning.
3) NO MORE FREAKING BUNTING.
4) Milton Bradley needs to be kneecapped after the barrel roll.
5) Al can ride “Kobe’s” ass all year about things but when he points out the obvious (Molina never makes an effort on anything hit near the infield) Tony goes out of his way to get in a huff about it.
6) Rick Ankiel/Chris Duncan isn’t working.
7) Joe Morgan said something tonight that wrapped my mind in such a pretzel, I can’t even remember what it was. But it was awesome.
8) Fox Saturday Blackouts suck.
9) KSDK and WGN need to get themselves on the Extra Innings package.
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 13, 2009 3:11 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
As for #9...
The better solution is to drop the awfulness that is KSDK and go with FSMW on Sundays, too. The whole thing is stupid to me, because very few people don’t have basic cable anymore. So that tiny group of cable-less people gets to see the game on Sundays when they otherwise wouldn’t. But the overwhelming majority of the market would be seeing it on FSMW anyway. Meanwhile, all those non-St. Louis people within the Cardinals’ territory on FSMW get cut out. Like me when I’m in Memphis. But I’m sure it’s all about money, blah blah blah.
As for WGN, I guess they figure if you have the Extra Innings package, you’re going to have WGN. Wouldn’t that be the case?
I agree with numbers 1-8.
V, b.
But you're in a small minority...
Basically I meant that the few unique viewers that KSDK gains you in St. Louis are offset by the non-St. Louis FSMW viewers several times over.
V, b.
LOTS
of people don’t have basic cable.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
According to this:
With 93 million subscribers to either cable or satellite television last year (according to the National Cable & Telecommunications Association), only about 10 percent of American homes go without.
Ten percent. My point is that the local viewers you gain with KSDK don’t come close to accounting for the regional, FSMW viewers you lose outside the St. Louis market. But I’m sure the Cardinals are better off thanks to the money KSDK pays for the rights.
V, b.
Ten
percent is a sizable portion. Why should baseball become even more expensive for fans then it already is? I do the MLB.tv work-around rather than pay loads of money for TV I won’t watch, but there are plenty of people who cannot afford cable. Or internet.
What I want to know is, how many of those subscribers are businesses (restaurants, offices, etc)?
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
Considering it says "homes"...
I’d say very few if any. And when I say “very few people don’t have basic cable anymore”, and only one out of ten households don’t, I’m not seeing how that’s inaccurate. You’re bringing up a completely different point with baseball being more expensive than it already is. I said nothing about that, nor was I arguing that. I was simply pointing out the number of viewers that have access to that particular game. But it’s not like there are plenty of teams that forgo any local telecasts, and that includes teams in more limited-sized markets. The Reds are one off the top of my head.
V, b.
By eliminating free
local telecasts, baseball become exclusive to those who can afford cable or drinking at a bar for three hours. That is why I am against eliminating all non-cable local telecasts.
People with cable (who are out of market) whine about being blacked out for those 10-15 games per season, but for other people, it’s all the baseball they get to watch. It was different when I was a kid, but if I was a kid now, I’d only get to watch games on local telecasts as my family has never had cable.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
That's fair...
I just think with the widespread geographical following the Cardinals have compared to the rest of the league, too many people get left out of those games. But it’s just one a week, so it’s tolerable I guess…
V, b.
i'd say the government should interfere and demand that games become
available for public viewing, but government interference would clearly be detrimental to the “free market” of the government-designated monopoly that is MLB.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
For real.
And then people wonder why there are more NFL fans than baseball fans – free football on at least two stations every Sunday, and free football Monday night. (Though there are probably additional reasons for this.)
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
MNF is on ESPN now, so not free football on Monday night
But you’ve got 1 or 2 games on CBS and/or FOX on Sunday afternoons, plus the NBC SNF game. That’s probably 3-4 free games a week, out of 12-16 total.
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jul 14, 2009 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions
AH...
Wasn’t aware of MNF on ESPN. But SNF on NBC makes up for that, I guess. Still, that’s almost 25% of the games – free!
What about playoff games? Are they all free?
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
I believe so
All carried on FOX or CBS, maybe one or two on NBC
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jul 14, 2009 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Re #1
He feels…happy! He feels…happy!
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jul 13, 2009 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
i think i'll go for a walk.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
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