VEB T-Shirt Design Contest
by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 10, 2009 9:45 AM EDT
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Lot's of chatter about this subject so I thought I would finally put up a fanpost. We need a new VEB shirt that brings us past the old 90's one we had before and into the 21st century. The problem is no one yet has steped up to the plate to make one. So I think a good ol Contest should be in order for it.
Two weeks from today I will revulate all contestants and will put up a new Fanpost with a poll so everyone can vote on the best T-Shirt. Thier will be no prize but the pride of winning. Even if you don't think you are any good at designing or drawing please put up a picture of your idea. Your idea might help someone else to make the best VEB shirt possible.
T-Shirts can eithier be only one sided or two sided. It is up to you. Just put up a picture in this fanpost of the T-shirt design. It doesn't have to be full size but do keep a higher image shot on your computer so when we do deceide to make T-shirts.
Remember these T-Shirts are going represent VEB so make it tasteful.
P.S
I am looking for a cheap online T-Shirt supply so we can post up the new T-Shirt and everyone has chance to purchase it from there.
P.S.S
I will even tell you guys my idea so far for a T-shirt. On the back I want Viva El Birdos like the back of a jersey with the numbers 67. Than at the botton of the T-Shirt this quote "When (Player's Name) gets back from the DL it will be like we traded for an All-Star!"
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Well, I have the spare time at work
but not the design expertise. I am a very fast computer learner, however, so could someone just give me the basics – what program would be best to use? Something like Adobe Illustrator? I’m just looking at a site like shirt.woot.com, and wondering what those people use. Also, maybe a basic guideline about copyrights; I know that using official logos and stuff like that are off limits, but I don’t know how far it extends. Can “St. Louis Cardinals” even appear on the shirt? Probably not. What about just “Cardinals” or just “STL”— these are the issues I’m talking about.
by mattyp on Jul 10, 2009 10:31 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I would think STL and Cardinals would be ok
Good thought though about copyright’s. Something we all need to stay away from doing. Which is too bad cause I would of just used my coat of arms for a T-Shirt.
I personally use Photoshop. Illustrator is for vector based graphics. But these are both programs that costs a lot of money to obtain. A cheap comparable software would either GIMP or Paint.net
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 10, 2009 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cardinals is fine, but I believe you cannot use the same font.
by Schnurdog on Jul 10, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can't do that anyway
without ripping it off directly because it’s an original, custom font.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Jul 10, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really...
…I think the copyright extends to the combination of a cardinal, something baseball related, and the text of cardinals or STL. The combination of all three will get you in trouble.
by BigJawnMize on Jul 11, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is weird because I started thinking of T-shirt ideas after I saw that exact exchange you're talking about.
Front:
Back:
We’re going to rest it and re-evaluate in a few days.
Decrease runs scored?
Maybe.
Decrease winning? Never seen that proven.
-SFTU
by hazel on Jul 10, 2009 10:51 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
TLR: Please bench DunKan and AnKiel!
by zoomzoomj88 on Jul 10, 2009 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is good.
I don’t have enough x-ray t-shirts
by Beware the Molinas on Jul 10, 2009 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Would this work for anyone?
Found at Uni Watch
by JBrew on Jul 10, 2009 11:13 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I love the red one!
....my quick smells like french toast...
by mstreeter06 on Jul 10, 2009 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like both those quite a bit
Although I’m concerned that the PC Police would eventually take issue with the first one. I know it’s history and all that, but eventually there’d be trouble. Not that I would particularly care.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Jul 10, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like the black shirt.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Jul 10, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The top one is awesome
I’d wear that.
Well done.
On with the (good) youth movement!
by aet15 on Jul 10, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Black shirt's nice
I’d wear that.
TLR: Please bench DunKan and AnKiel!
by zoomzoomj88 on Jul 10, 2009 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Love the front of the red one
The eye swoosh is really cool.
by mojowo11 on Jul 10, 2009 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought
Larry was worried about copyright infringement with the top shirt?
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Jul 10, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was.
I think that image is property of someone at the Post-Dispatch. But I really like the second one. And can I make a recommendation? Can we make the shits red this year? Living in Chicago I often to to Cards games in either Wrigley or Miller (even the Cell) and always wear red to help show the number of Cards fans in attendance. With a red VEB shirt, I could and would wear it to Wrigley proudly.
Also HL, I don’t remember that red design last time but I do remember the “Bravo!” one. I have to say, I love the “Eye” shirt and it definitely has my early vote.
I have a very, umm...photographic brain. A lot like Ansel Adams but in color and with a lot more, uh.....insertion and pubic hair.
by Tackle Box on Jul 11, 2009 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am with you on this one
Red T-Shirt only in my eye. I am not wearing a black t-shirt during a hot STL summer also.
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 11, 2009 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why?
I have a very, umm...photographic brain. A lot like Ansel Adams but in color and with a lot more, uh.....insertion and pubic hair.
by Tackle Box on Jul 13, 2009 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
unfortunate lack of an 'r,'
cardinals are the things with feathers that perch within the soul.
by ilrosso on Jul 11, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
heh.
I had to read my comment three times to catch it.
I have a very, umm...photographic brain. A lot like Ansel Adams but in color and with a lot more, uh.....insertion and pubic hair.
by Tackle Box on Jul 13, 2009 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can we make the shits red this year?
Eat a lot of beetroot.
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 13, 2009 6:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i like the red shirt,
even though it’s a bit hard to tell what it’s actually supposed to be. looks kind of like an eye staring out of a hole in a red wall. but of these two designs, i like it better. i think it’s pretty well done. good job.
does the url appear on both sleeves? in the picture, the url is on the front of the left sleeve and on the back of the left sleeve.
cardinals are the things with feathers that perch within the soul.
by ilrosso on Jul 11, 2009 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And I like the black one- I actually have the button!
I want to be the no-talent ass clown!
by RosevilleRedbird on Jul 13, 2009 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have a button with the top image on it
I love that one. It’s also found on the Viva El Birdos concession stand, which makes me wonder if the organization now owns the copyright to the image? I’d love to have that on a t-shirt.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Jul 14, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You guys have any ideas for where we should get them printed?
Cafepress is $20 for a Red/White Baseball Cut T-Shirt
I would like to find a place in the sub $20 range but I don’t want to cheap on quality.
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 10, 2009 12:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If we're all near STL I'm pretty sure there are some local places.
I’ll look into it.
Decrease runs scored?
Maybe.
Decrease winning? Never seen that proven.
-SFTU
by hazel on Jul 10, 2009 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But we aren't all near STL
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 10, 2009 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hence the 'If'
Decrease runs scored?
Maybe.
Decrease winning? Never seen that proven.
-SFTU
by hazel on Jul 10, 2009 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There is a local place in Belleville, IL that I used, Artwear.
I used them for about 50 tshirts and they came out nice and pretty timely as well. I think they ended up being like 10 bucks a shirt after all was said and done.
by Schnurdog on Jul 10, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have had work done there also...
Turned out fine.
"I've played a couple of hundred games of tic-tac-toe with my little daughter and she hasn't beaten me yet. I've always had to win. I've got to win." - Bob Gibson
by MUGATU on Jul 10, 2009 8:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Also, for those of you who have no idea how to make a shirt.
Use this website
I used it to design my shirt then took the design to Artwear and they made the shirts for me.
by Schnurdog on Jul 10, 2009 1:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
These are messy
But my roomie and I made them back when we tried (and failed) at starting the last t-shirt contest. I could clean them up (read: have someone clean them up for me) if people like the premise.
We had the back of the shirt reading “LOS BIRDOS SON TODOS” with the URL.
I like Hardcore Legend’s eye shirt, though.
by mojowo11 on Jul 10, 2009 6:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Be nice if we could get
www.veb.com to redirect here. It would look good on a shirt. Doesn’t seem like the current guy is doing much with it…
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Gibson
by davethebutcher on Jul 10, 2009 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know...
He’s got something going on there, I just don’t know if he’ll get a lot of repeat visitors.
"I will grow a mustache bigger than Wyatt Earp's if we keep winning," - Adam Wainwright
by Beware the Molinas on Jul 11, 2009 4:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I personally like it without the url
“Viva El Birdos” alone has a much classier feel.
On with the (good) youth movement!
by aet15 on Jul 13, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am more than willing to draw one...
…I have suggested some in the past, but this discussion seems to go nowhere on this site. If you want to check out some of my handy work go over to futureredbirds.net. I did the T-shirt logos for Erik.
by BigJawnMize on Jul 11, 2009 2:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thinking about it...
…if there really is to be a new shirt—shouldn’t danup be involved in the decision.
by BigJawnMize on Jul 11, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who is this danup?
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Jul 11, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He probably should be
But somehow I am organizing the VEB get together this year also. Any of the mods input would be great.
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 11, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like the work over at FR
It would be nice to have a VEB shirt of similar quality
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 11, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking we could simply do something similar to the bumper sticker logo over there with vivaelbirdos.com in a festive style text similar to the original “bravo, bravo, elbirdo” shirt and have birds dressed in latin american influenced garb in a variety of baseball poses—sliding into a base, catching a ball, pitching, hitting…I bet I could come up with a good 60’s era retro look to the whole thing as well.
by BigJawnMize on Jul 11, 2009 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have a better idea...
…I am going to try to draw a baseball unraveling (like it was hit really hard) where the flaps of leather start to form wings and the seams start to form feathers, feet, and a beak. This could be really cool.
by BigJawnMize on Jul 13, 2009 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
great idea, but I dunno how practical it'd be
sounds more like a 4-5 frame comic strip than a t-shirt artwork…
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 21, 2009 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't speak for Dan
but personally I’d like to see a red one so that they could be worn to the games and feel as though one was “fitting in.” I like “Viva El Birdos” w/o the url but think that it’s important for the url to be on there to identify the site. I don’t think it should be too player or season specific (unless it relates to Pujols or all the team’s championships) b/c the site and the community are about the team and not the player. Even if Pujols were to be traded or leave via free agency, the site will live. This isn’t a player’s fan club.
I like the FR shirt a lot but think a short-sleeve shirt would be better than the “baseball-sleeve” shirt just b/c those summer games are so hot. Maybe a Cardinal swinging a bat, making an outstanding fielding play…I don’t know. I’d love to see what you can come up with.
by chuckb on Jul 14, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am happy you said something
I honestly didn’t want to step on any of your toes but at the same time I know their was demand for a new shirt
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 14, 2009 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Front:
Albert Pujols is Ridiculous!
Back:
You know Dan, he really is.
by RiverRat on Jul 12, 2009 4:01 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
i would buy that in an instant.
"I've played a couple of hundred games of tic-tac-toe with my little daughter and she hasn't beaten me yet. I've always had to win. I've got to win." - Bob Gibson
by MUGATU on Jul 12, 2009 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
just so people know this contest hasn't stalled
I am working on a design and hope to have it up in the next couple of days. Also, please rec this fanpost VEBers so it doesn’t fall off the FP.
by mattyp on Jul 13, 2009 2:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for rec up
I was wondering where all these rec’s came from. I didn’t want to have ask everyone for rec’s myself
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 13, 2009 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Go east young man
A friend of mine (Jeff Roman from FR and Ram’s Gab) recently commented that between Carpenter and Wagonmaker, we’d have a pretty good Oregon Trail team (particularly if we can coax Doc Halladay to join up). When the t-shirt contest was announced, I figured I’d take a stab at putting the idea to paper (fabric? bits?).
There’s plenty of work to be done (such as redoing the Wagonmaker and repixelating everything), but I figured I’d throw it out for comments before putting in more time on the details. Among the things I’m wondering:
(1) How do we feel about the copyright situation for this kind of thing. Currently these are screen grabs from the game which is about as infringey as I can get. I can redraw the thing if necessary, but there are tons of shirts online with the same artwork, so I’m not sure what the ruling is on this.
(2) Is this too subtle for a Cardinals shirt? The arch, wagonmaker, and text might not get it done. I’m open for thoughts on how to improve that aspect of things
(3) Any and all comments or suggestions (including, “don’t bother finishing this”)
Thanks
by brackenthebox on Jul 13, 2009 9:54 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
i like it. =)
it’s funny, and it’s a bit nostalgic. i loved that game. here are my, hopefully constructive, criticisms.
1. i think the design would be better served on a red background. the black is a little…dark.
2. the font for the ‘viva el birdos’ and ‘exploring the…’ bits need to be changed. something more cursive for the veb, and something less arial-ish for the subtext. that font is just a suggestion, btw.
3. i don’t think you need the little framing blue thingies. i understand why they’re there, i just don’t think they’re entirely necessary.
all in all, it made me chuckle, which is always good. it’s a solid idea, and original as well. as for the copyright issues, i can’t really speak to that.
cardinals are the things with feathers that perch within the soul.
by ilrosso on Jul 14, 2009 3:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
as for subtlety,
which i see i completely failed to address, i think it is on the subtle side. you could add an option 4 or something that says ‘albert pujols is ridiculous,’ or perhaps add a stadium in the background to help that a bit.
also, why are they going east?
cardinals are the things with feathers that perch within the soul.
by ilrosso on Jul 14, 2009 3:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thanks for the comments
The fonts on the title are definitely a case of my just wanting to get a comp finished after working on the other parts. I’ll try out some other options (including the one you suggested) and repost.
A red shirt might help with the cards connection, so that might fix my subtly problem to some extent right there. I tried adding a stadium but had trouble making it not crowd the design.
As for traveling east, I had two reasons:
(1) in the game you start in Independence, meaning you would have to travel east to get to STL
(2) The wagon needs to be on the same side of the river as the stadium or the text box doesn’t make sense
Thanks again, I’ll try to repost an updated design today or tomorrow.
by brackenthebox on Jul 14, 2009 6:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You need to get
“You have died of dysentery” on there somehow…..
by RiverRat on Jul 14, 2009 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking of
“You have died of Thurst(on)”
not particularly timeless, but it fits the tenor of the year
by brackenthebox on Jul 14, 2009 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
okay.
i had this big long thing correcting you on what side of the river they were on, but then realized you knew they were going east already. =)
The first thing that a pitcher has to understand is that Albert is better than you.-- Jim Palmer
by ilrosso on Jul 14, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As I indicated in my first post,
this was my first attempt at design software (Adobe Illustrator) so I went for something simple but I think appealing. Its pragmatic too, because it only uses black ink and therefore will cut down greatly on the final cost, plus I think it would look pretty cool on a Cardinal red shirt. This is a rough draft—I am still messing around with fonts etc. so please let know if you think its worth refining and feel free to offer any suggestions. Without further ado, the front first and then the back:
P.S. That outermost rectangle is part of the template, so it shouldn’t show up on the final T-Shirt. Also, someone please check my spanish; it should say “Love the Birds! Fear the Birds! (commands)” Also re: the back, any thoughts on whether I should make it just “Vivaelbirdos” to make it a little more stealth or if I should keep the “.com” Any feedback—even negative—is appreciated.
by mattyp on Jul 14, 2009 1:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I like it
and think the (.com) should be there in order to plug the site. I was also going to suggest that the url be smaller but the more I look at it, the more I like it. I really like your slogan but have no idea whether the Spanish is correct.
by chuckb on Jul 14, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love that you want to
check the grammar when the name of the site is grammatically improper.
There’s potential irony in that.
"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah
by Alxfritz on Jul 14, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't like
the “viva” under the bird pic.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Jul 14, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
*sorry
as in you don’t like the “viva” as the text or you don’t like that design element at all? Would you suggest putting a different design there or just deleting it and leaving it blank?
by mattyp on Jul 14, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Leave it blank.
Sorry. I should’ve been more specific. It’s not exactly confusing… It’s just out of context by itself.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Jul 14, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like the bird, though.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Jul 14, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If an unknowing person sees the shirt
Aren’t they going to think this is some sort of site for Hispanic Bird fans? Not sure if that matters, but that is my impression. I like the design though.
by OCCardsFan on Jul 15, 2009 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hah, yeah
the inability to use a real STL logo does pose some problems. The VEB logo—which I went off of—does kind of just look like a generic bird. Anyway, I messed around with mine a little as per ChuckB’s suggestion. Here’s the new one (although looking at how much is going on now in the shirt, I look below and kind of prefer the simplicity of arch support’s submission):
Those are baseball underneath the bird with our championship years inside
by mattyp on Jul 15, 2009 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i don't particularly like how busy
this is. sorry, that’s not the most helpful criticism in the world…
The first thing that a pitcher has to understand is that Albert is better than you.-- Jim Palmer
by ilrosso on Jul 15, 2009 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have no graphic design skills or tools
but I was thinking about parodying the Che Guevara shirt (you know the one) with “Viva El Birdos” replacing “Viva La Revolution” or whatever. In place of Che, you have Fredbird rendered in the same style. Might be tough to pull off, since you’d need Fredbird to look enough like Che to make the reference clear, but enough like his own dorky self to make it funny.
Whatever design is chosen, the back of it should definitely sport one of VEB’s 5 billion running in-jokes.
by Andyfantastic on Jul 15, 2009 1:06 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm all for making fun of Che
Not sure what image would work though. Maybe a vintage Simmons or Hernandez could have the right kind of hair? Then there are copyright issue, so nevermind.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Jul 15, 2009 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because I'm bored...
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/05jP8GK18Adeh/610x.jpg
by EsemplasticSaxum on Jul 15, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions 9 recs
LOL
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Jul 15, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love it.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Jul 15, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I want it!
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Jul 15, 2009 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If they don't pick this one
I’ll screenprint it myself.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Jul 15, 2009 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I honestly think this one would win
But it imposes on copyright infringement. I am torn with what to do with it. But I will most likely make a personal copy for myself sometime this week.
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 20, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is fredbird's face
copyrighted? I see no ©!!!
"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah
by Alxfritz on Jul 20, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Honestly I don't know
It it not my field of knowledge
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 20, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what would be copyrighted
besides the STL we usually see on the cap?
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Jul 20, 2009 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Without giving any legal advice
This looks like a parody to me
by OCCardsFan on Jul 20, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am going to draw up...
…a more professional looking idea. But this idea is just too funny. I would be willing to make it look better and meet copyright.
by BigJawnMize on Jul 15, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
By all means do
But I wouldn’t stray too far from EsemplasticSaxum’s picture. He absolutely nailed it, in my opinion.
by Andyfantastic on Jul 15, 2009 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
WOW
That’s almost exactly how I pictured it. Well done, sir, well done.
by Andyfantastic on Jul 15, 2009 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I WANT THIS SHIRT.
hahahaha!
The first thing that a pitcher has to understand is that Albert is better than you.-- Jim Palmer
by ilrosso on Jul 15, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder which ironic Che t-shirt
ghost-Che hates the most.
PS – What’s the correct nomenclature here – Ghost-Che? Zombie Che?
by arch support on Jul 15, 2009 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well I know one thing
Chinaman is not the preferred nomenclature. Asian-American, please.
by Andyfantastic on Jul 15, 2009 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
He didn't build the goddamn railroads.
"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah
by Alxfritz on Jul 15, 2009 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hell, I can get you a toe by 3:00 this afternoon. With nail polish!!! These fucking amateurs...
"I've played a couple of hundred games of tic-tac-toe with my little daughter and she hasn't beaten me yet. I've always had to win. I've got to win." - Bob Gibson
by MUGATU on Jul 16, 2009 8:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm more concerned about how many living Che-shirt-wearing hipsters would hate it
I hope it would be lots and lots and lots.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Jul 16, 2009 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Feature
not a bug.
Guys like Bradley are exactly why we can't have a pumpkin patch anymore.
by liam on Jul 16, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Huh?
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Jul 16, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Meaning that
annoying the hipsters is a bonus, I guess.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Jul 16, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is fantastic
Well done.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on Jul 15, 2009 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thought it was pretty funny myself...
Glad some folks liked it. Just a quick and dirty Photoshop job, but I’d be happy to work it up further or to turn the .psd file over to anyone who wants to play with it at further length.
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/05jP8GK18Adeh/610x.jpg
by EsemplasticSaxum on Jul 15, 2009 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would appreciate it
If you could send me the psd. Overall I like the idea a lot. Like the Viva el Birdos font too. Something about Fredbirds face just irks me the wrong way though so was just going to tweak around with it.
Good idea though all around
My email is FlimtotheFlam at Gmail dot com
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 15, 2009 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The problem...
…with this is that it currently has 2-3 trademark violations.
by BigJawnMize on Jul 16, 2009 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is the best ever!
Would love to play around with the psd.
Can you e mail to
kboes80 at gmail dot com
"Baseball is the only field of endeavor where a man can succeed three times out of ten and be considered a good performer." - Ted Williams
by WiscCard on Jul 16, 2009 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
perfect!
send me whatever file you have and ill have one printed STAT! michael.cantrell@mail.utexas.edu
by krippledmaster on Jul 18, 2009 2:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd buy that for a dollar!
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 21, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My Idea
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You could stash the blog URL on there anywhere you wanted: sleeve, bottom, front, back, I don’t care.
Make it any font you want, too.
Just got inspired when I saw the fanpost and I loves me some t-shirts.
PS – Sorry about the crazy big pic formatting. Not a guru at this stuff.
by arch support on Jul 15, 2009 11:46 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I really like this one
could have a winner here
by mattyp on Jul 15, 2009 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really like the back.
Simple, clever.
The front doesn’t really do it for me.
Decrease runs scored?
Maybe.
Decrease winning? Never seen that proven.
-SFTU
by hazel on Jul 18, 2009 4:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
agree with hazel here
I would like the Fredbird/Che T-shirt above as the front, and your slogan on the back. That would rock.
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 21, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Work in Progress
Here is a real rough draft of what I have done so far. I have been flipping around ideas.
I need to make the text more readable and add some kind of effect to it. It has a bunch of single season records on it. Not so sure about the baseball but I dig the silhouettes
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 15, 2009 1:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Update: Stole some of HL Work
Ganked the eye from HL’s T-shirt (hope you don’t mind)
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 15, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I want to add a Latin Quote
But I don’t know what to say maybe
“Verum est in Numerus”
The Truth is in the Numbers
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 15, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
veritas in numeris est.
hopefully my 7 years of latin back in the day haven’t failed me.
The first thing that a pitcher has to understand is that Albert is better than you.-- Jim Palmer
by ilrosso on Jul 15, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lascivio a ferreus novem
or “play a hard nine”
anyone else wants to chime in, your online translator awaits
by edgesofsanity on Jul 16, 2009 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Adepto a brain Morans!
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Gibson
by davethebutcher on Jul 19, 2009 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Albert Pujols est ridiculum.
The first thing that a pitcher has to understand is that Albert is better than you.-- Jim Palmer
by ilrosso on Jul 21, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Conicio magis subsido!
Throw More Sinkers!
"Baseball has been good to me since I quit trying to play it." - Whitey Herzog
by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Jul 21, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
or perhaps...
Vereor Mustache!
(Fear the Mustache!)
"Baseball has been good to me since I quit trying to play it." - Whitey Herzog
by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Jul 21, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cubbies Eunt Domus
People called Cubbies they go the house
by brackenthebox on Jul 21, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Another Ripoff for the Back
Just throwing out some ideas
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 15, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
or also:
we love pop culture,
statistics, philosophy,
and we write haiku
…or not.
by edgesofsanity on Jul 16, 2009 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
could you make the bat look cartoony as well?
i think that’d make it look better.
The first thing that a pitcher has to understand is that Albert is better than you.-- Jim Palmer
by ilrosso on Jul 15, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Veritas In Numeris Est
I hope that;s right, otherwise my parents wasted a lot of money and I a lot of time on 5 years of Latin lessons
by mattyp on Jul 15, 2009 4:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Double Play
Screwing around…the start of a double play image.
by BigJawnMize on Jul 16, 2009 2:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Very cool.
Can’t wait to see the result.
by mojowo11 on Jul 17, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In regards to the Copyright concerns
Has anybody thought of just asking for permission? I’m not sure how open the Cardinals generally are to this sort of thing, but it couldn’t hurt to ask right?
Albert Pujols is ridiculous.
by stlhulsey on Jul 21, 2009 2:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No chance.
Cardinals do not want their logo going on quality uncontrolled products without MLB approval that parodies a cultural figure near and dear to a specific sect of the population. I have no idea if the design could be contrived as offensive, but its possible it could be. For good reason, the Cardinals and MLB will have a short list of authorized products and retailers for their products as reputational risk is at stake.
"I'll be glad to have Ryan [Braun] help if he wants to. I'll give him a badge and he can be my deputy." - Doug Melvin
by all4tookie on Jul 21, 2009 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd keep the front of the existing shirt (red shirt of course)
The back would say vivaelbirdos.com across the top like it does now.
Underneath that you’d have all the players nicknames we’ve given them. You’d either…
1 list the starting 9 plus pitchers in 2 rows, like a list of concert dates
2. list the starting names on a diamond, like you might see at the start of a TV broadcast.
3. Just list the whole roster of nicknames, just in case there are funny nicknames who aren’t starters that you don’t wanna leave out.
by sdrone on Jul 21, 2009 3:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe something like this
I’m trying to figure out a way to make it not about the art, but about the fact that the site has so much awesome content.
I think the first thing I guess I should change is that the back of the shirt should not have any caps. I can’t really include, say, a 3500 word post from RB. Maybe I could include some snappy quote about statistics or something.
WHOA! maybe some haiku? Something about Pineiro.
by sdrone on Jul 21, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
not about a player who probably won't be here next season, please.
The Dan and Al “you know, it really is” meme would be an interesting one to include. A haiku would be nice (we could have a competition?).
I’m really liking the “Pop Culture, Statistics, Philosophy, Haiku” slogan though. It’s a winner.
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 21, 2009 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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