Game 77 Open Thread -- June 28, 2009
by chuckb on Jun 28, 2009 2:00 PM EDT
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PrintMinnesota Twins at St. Louis Cardinals, Jun 28, 2009 2:15 PM EDT
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| Liriano | Pineiro |
| 4.75 FIP | 2.96 FIP |
There's really not much to add about Pineiro from what I said the other day except that he's been tremendous at home and just ok on the road. A .575 OPS against is what Joel sports. This could be a 1-0 game.
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I'm getting the Twins feed so I'm sure
I’ll miss the gushing from KSDK
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 28, 2009 2:03 PM EDT reply actions
They just interviewed DeRosa
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by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 28, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions
What!
You mean you don’t enjoy Jay Randolph’s hallucinations? You saying you wouldn’t confuse a pop-up on the infield with a 450-foot bomb from time to time? Ha!
V, b.
I'm getting the Twins feed on EI too
is the video quality as horrible for you as it is for me? Everything white is blown out – and everything else super blurry?
Yeah, same here
I was just about to post that.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 28, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
It's actually giving me a headache trying to focus
How can it actually be that bad? Are all of their cameras settings just automated for playing indoors?
It isn't the cameras
this is a local feed from their MyTV channel My29.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 28, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
DeRosa will hit a HR and take a curtain call today
Calling it
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
I'm eating sherbet
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 28, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions
orange/lime/raspberry
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 28, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm calling a torn hamstring
going for a ball in the corner, out 6-8 months.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 28, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
ouch
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 28, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Pulls knife out of the sheath
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by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 28, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
BOOO torn hamstring prediction
HOORAY beer!!
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seems like chuck has been mailing it in lately
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 28, 2009 2:09 PM EDT reply actions
I like Frank
He just said if Pineiro just played the Met’s he would be a HOFer
I laughed
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by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 28, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
He also, annoyingly,
kept calling the Mets “the Metropolitans.”
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
kinda like
the tampa bay team is the devil rays?
by prophetjohn on Jun 28, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
No
They are actually just the Rays
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by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 28, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
And the Dodgers
were the Trolley Dodgers?
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Kinda
the Mets were the Metropolitans in the 1880s, then were renamed that when they came back into the league in the 1960s but legal issues had the name shortened to Mets.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 28, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
So they're no longer
the Metropolitans, just like the Reds are no longer the Redlegs.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
I know.
But he just kept saying it.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
Me too!
It’s basically all I say to my husband.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
Shut it, you.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
so
any news on the cardinal front?
just an average sunday in cardinal nation?
i say we keep 10 run sundays alive
Hey, I hear DeRosa will sport #7
That’s a serious number, plus one…
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It's the fingers on your hand, plus yo thumba and yo index finga
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 28, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Ther's a lot of numbers, it's true...
I’m shutting up now
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That's pretty much the President Casino commercial of this year
I hated it at first but it’s so bad I’ve learned to love it. But the Casino one I had already learned to love from hockey season so half this baseball season has been wasted commercial wise.
Not afraid to nitpick
When you come down to the President Casino
You’re gonna have some fun…
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hopefully he'll bring us some good luck
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 28, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
A couple of hits off a lefty will suffice for me
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the choir's here
somebody start preaching
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 28, 2009 2:16 PM EDT reply actions
Wow, this kids group singing the Nat Anthem is harsh
I mean, they’re kids and all, but DAMN.
by cloistermaximus on Jun 28, 2009 2:17 PM EDT reply actions
hes a suiter
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Jun 28, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
A: Lee Smith
and Bruce Sutter off the top of my head.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
Oooh, good one. I totally forgot he was with CHC.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
keep em sinking low in the zone, joel
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 28, 2009 2:18 PM EDT reply actions
Put DeRosa at short!!
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No, he can play both, damn it
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Ank in left, Ras in CF
Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.
At least Rasmus takes healthy cuts against LHP
Dunc looks fooled hitting all lefties…he’ll get a gift pitch every now and again
Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.
Raz seems to do well vs "power" pitchers.
RHP / LHP seems to matter less than Finesse vs Power.
here's the prerequisite bitching about not having Rasmus in the lineup
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 28, 2009 2:19 PM EDT reply actions
Here's my signature and approval of this post.
Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.
He has to switch hands too
Feels like a whole different person
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by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 28, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Cortisone shots hurt like hell for a day or two
regardless of where they’re injected.
At least I thought so
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My husband
was in immense pain after both his.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
But after the "damnation fire burn" feeling goes away
My shoulder felt great for about 6 months
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His got way worse.
Surgery followed.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
Yeah, I'm heading that way I think
It wore off. Yuck
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Yeah, wrist
Been buggin him since high school
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Wow T. Greene...
that was terribly played….you looked like Jr. High SS right there….
Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.
what's the over/under
on how many times Ankiel K’s against Liriano today?
by hangingfromatree on Jun 28, 2009 2:22 PM EDT reply actions
If Liriano throws off peed
Over/under is 4
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K Greene
looking very good at third.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
I hate to disagree with Whitey
But Tyler Greene does not excite me as a major leaguer in any facet of the game.
he's got a great glove
but i still think he’ll struggle to be a replacement-level hitter.
Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
wouldn't say "great"
maybe above average. his bat does suck.
by hangingfromatree on Jun 28, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Great glove
Great speed
Developed body
Good bad
Poor patience
He’s going to have a better career than Brendan Ryan.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 28, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
hey guys
first game I’ve watched live in ages!
can we please, please, not see joe thurston on this team any more. At all.
Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.
One would hope MDR would alleviate some of that
by cloistermaximus on Jun 28, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
i’m so pumped by that acquisition! Gonna have a franklin tonight for the DeRo pickup – exactly what we need vs LHP I think.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Derosa
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 28, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd once again like to thank the Twins for taking Mauer over Prior
It would’ve sucked if the Cubs drafted Mauer.
this cannot be reiterated enough
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 28, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Also
Prior wouldn’t have cratered if he’d been a Twin. Karma, you know.
by StanTheManFan on Jun 28, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah he would've
The GOB’s would’ve frowned on the Twins not taking the home town guy who wanted to play for them.
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Not to disrespect an entire country
But to disrespect an entire country, Brazil’s national anthem is not very awe inspiring. Just about the opposite.
Not afraid to nitpick
That's kinda odd coming from an American though
Our national anthem is incredibly hard to sing. “America, the Beautiful” should be our anthem.
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 28, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Need a DP here fellas
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
so yeah
this mauer guy is pretty good
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 28, 2009 2:26 PM EDT reply actions
Lets go Cardinals...and Lets Go Team USA
no pressure on Team USA
I want a altiodore hattrick and a derosa homer today
DO IT!
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
So not much discussion on the batting order
I see DeRosa as more of a #2 hitter, no?
I’d like to see a 2-5 of DeRo, Albert, Lud, and Raz basically everyday and figure out the rest from there.
Oh and no more Thurston.
Ouch
Whatever LaRue said to Pineiro, it was the wrong thing
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 28, 2009 2:28 PM EDT reply actions
We're dealing with a lot of shit here
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there's that HR/FB ratio coming crashing back to the mean...
Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.
Doesnt matter who is up at the plate....
they are hitting that pitch out….up and middle in, slow, no movement and sitting on a tee.
Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.
actually it does matter
bad hitters miss meatballs on occasion, good hitters don’t.
besides, one bad pitch doesn’t mean his HR/FB ratio are headed back to norms.
I'm not arguing his HR/FB ratio
I’m just saying that Major League don’t miss that pitch very often. That pitch is what you call a “watermelon”.
Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.
No it wasnt
It wasnt in the middle of the plate at all. It was tight inside.
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by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 28, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
That's where Albert
likes his HR Derby pitches.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
no, the law of averages does....
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by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
eh
I think I’d disagree that Mourneau is one of the top 5… maybe top 10
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 28, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Good location Pineiro
NOT….fuck.
Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.
and when it opened
it was full of candy
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Hmm, surprised Jay Randolph
didn’t think that was a pop up to Albert as it came off his bat
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wow
could he have put that in a worse place? 90mph on the inside-centre of the plate, belt-high? Ermmmm…. Don’t do that against good left-handed hitters please.
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I was thinking he needed to bust him inside
But a little further inside. Does Pineiro feature a cutter?
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 28, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Only 2 of those runs were earned though!
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
Wow
Span is a speed merchant. He had no chance even if he picked it clean.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 28, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
On MLB.com I run the video feed on Firefox and KTRS on Safari..
Works fine when you use the normal video mode on Firefox. The Highdef mode has way too much lagg…
I stood where no man goes...
any rumours yet on who might be on the DeRo ptbnl list?
Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.
I heard it was Albert Pujols and Colby Rasmus
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 28, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Jay Randolph and Al Hrabosky too please.
Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.
how is that even a choice?
it’s todd if that’s the case. Ugh. That would absolutely suck.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess it ties into whether we sign him to an extension or not...
if we do, they get the better player. If he is just a rental, they get the lower end guy.
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i'm not interested in signing derosa to an extension especially
but giving up Todd along with Perez would be horrible. We need Todd in the pen next year. Samuel is kinda filler really, high upside but he hasn’t figured it all out yet, still v wild. Todd is pretty much MLB-ready. There’s worlds between them as prospects. I don’t see how they can be mentioned in the same sentence. I still think Todd could be a useful starter, too, if they want to make that reverse move…
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by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Let's go Tribe
the Indians SBNation site seems to think they have two different options depending on whether the Cardinals make the playoffs or not. That doesn’t make sense to me as it has been reported that the choice must be made by 9/1. Now if we have clinched the Central by then I guess I will have no option but to be happy about the deal.
Those Pilgrims ain't lookin' so proud now...
Todd of Samuel, sounds like an old English name...
“Why yes, I am Todd of Samuel and this is my cousin, Franklin of Motte”.
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3 run deficit
vs. a lefty who’s been struggling? Hopefully DeRo can help our normal output against such pitchers.
As a man who up to a couple weeks ago hated Pineiro
He has pitched extremely well this year, so let’s not turn on him so quickly.
I agree
I just looked at the pitch on Gameday, It was a solid pitch. Very inside pitch that he just turned on
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by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 28, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
it was a meatball
to a left-hander. Awful pitch.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I disagree
He pitched away away away away away away then a very inside pitch. Which could of easily been called a ball. It was not a meatball.
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by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 28, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
it was well over the plate
<90mph and not moving much. Belt high.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
no movement, right in Morneau's wheelhouse.
Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.
Remember when Liriano and Santana
were the deadliest 1-2 combo in baseball a ciouple years back?
Wow, Liriano’s fallen off a cliff since TJ surgery.
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Yeah after one inning
he looks like the 2006 version.
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well the first 3 in the lineup
have been there all year struggling against lefties…..
Man, this guy is gonna shut us down today. Take pitches, people.
I hope "first 3 in the lineup"
Isn’t saying Pujols has struggled against lefties unless .297 .441 .743 counts
Not afraid to nitpick
He wasn't too bad last year
after getting demoted for money reasons.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 28, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
the cure--take 27 cardinals
and call me in the morning
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
Are we ever going to have a better option at leadoff
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 28, 2009 2:33 PM EDT reply actions
Yikes
Works for me today, but kinda a shame what Liriano is now, dude used to have three plus-plus pitches.
Not afraid to nitpick
Some good fish fries up dere in Minnesota
doncha know. Youbetcha.
Uff da!!
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That was a pathetic half inning
Take the walk Pujols, you have someone behind you who can actually hit lefties.
He forgot.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
"That's just hard baseball"
Bert is trying to say that Molina and the Cardinals need to get over that slide yesterday because it was just hard baseball. That’s why Cuddeyar is starting in RF, because Gardenhire thought we’d try to take him out at 2B.
Hey Bert, newsflash. Taking out retribution on the 2B for being a douche and sliding with his knee up is GOOD HARD BASEBALL.
It cuts both ways.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 28, 2009 2:37 PM EDT reply actions
That's new to the Twins then.
Cuddyer hasn’t played middle MIF or 3B since 2005. His days of 2B are over…the guy is just way to big to play up the middle. He might be able to transition back to 3B if they needed him to, but no way he plays 2B ever again.
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Then you call the booth
and tell them.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 28, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
You got the number...
I know a guy in the radio booth, but I don’t know anyone in the TV booth…
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Call the Twins radio booth
and ask for the phone number to the TV booth.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 28, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Cuddyer looked like he took the worst of the hit
They replayed it and it looked brutal on him. He slammed his head against home plate.
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by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 28, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
If the Mets game was when pitch to contact goes horribly right
This would be the other side.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 28, 2009 2:39 PM EDT reply actions
And a single up the middle
and a flyball to the warning track.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 28, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not jumping all over him
I’m just saying he’s not getting the atom ball today.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 28, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Which is the bad kind of
pitch to contact. If you aren’t keeping the ball down and not striking anyone out, things go horrible wrong.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 28, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
A ball hit right 'at 'em'
as in the ball was struck by the bat and it’s path was directly in line with the fielder of which didn’t have to move and could play it fairly easily.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 28, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Pitching to contact is all about "random outcomes"
Pitchers can control if the batter hits the ball or not. Pitching to contact is about letting them hit the ball and hoping somoene catches it. They do about 70% of the time, but that doesn’t mean you won’t get a pile of that 30% outcomes in a row in any given inning.
exactly
one ball on the ground that’s made it through
and the ball to derosa was hardly on the warning track
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
Ok, MDR up to bat
He’ll hit a grand slam with the bases empty. I swear!
by cloistermaximus on Jun 28, 2009 2:43 PM EDT reply actions
Since when...
does somebody named jonathan spector and clint dempsey put it in the net against Brazil.
The world isn’t making sense these days
i think spector was briefly at Man United
didn’t stay long though. He was playing for someone else at a high level in england, though. He’s a good player.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
apparently we're going up against
the LH version of good Joel Piniero.
And jesus Ludwick, can you please take a pitch?
Yuck Yuck Yuck. This is a very familiar start to a game vs. a crappy LH starter.
Liriano isn't crappy
he’s having a rough year but the guy was once one of the best young starters in the game.
Yeah, I get that he WAS once one of the best starters in the game.
Then he got hurt (had TJ surgery if I’m not mistaken) and has struggled mightily with command.
yeah he's sucked since surgery
he’s lost velocity AND movement on all his pitches, changed his arsenal, and walks a load more, too. He’s not the same pitcher anymore. He’ll still probably shut us down, though…
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by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
yep....
4 runs to overcome now? With the approach we have had thus far, where we’ve seen a whopping 22 pitches over 2 innings, Liriano is probably good for 7-plus today.
I have no data on this, but it just seems like everytime I’ve seen the Cards go up against a lefty, they have this “hack away” approach. Even thinking back to the CLE game where they made Cliff Lee throw a bunch of pitches in the 1st (I think he walked 2 guys), they ended up just hacking at everything. I dunno if they approach pitchers differently based on LH or RH, but it seems like they are just wicked impatient against any and all lefties.
one new signing...
but we still suck against LHP ;-)
Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.
for ankiel, maybe
he’ll K with runners on base for sure though
by hangingfromatree on Jun 28, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
They're some plastic old timey trumpet things...
FIFA is thinking about banning them for the Cup next year… I for one hope they do.
I've watched more of this tournament that I probably should have
I’ve been able to block it out mostly.
except, like, most of the planet...
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by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Speaking of
A Coup d’état happened today in Honduras
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by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 28, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
That's what happens when the president goes against a Supreme Court ruling
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 28, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
True
But his term wasn’t even up yet
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by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 28, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
its those damn plastic trumpets that these south africans have
if Pineiro keeps letting runners on, I’m gonna keep watching this soccer game.
Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.
If only we had traded for a 3B
And had a good defensive OF sitting around looking for a place to play in the OF.
But why do that when you can play
an IF in LF and Tony’s man crush in CF?
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YAY!!!! 99.99
needed that after Mauer continued to improve his insane BABIP….
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That was a good piece of hitting
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by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 28, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice throw
by T Greene.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
i guess today the sinker's finding the gaps off the bat
some days it works out getting the ball in play, some days it doesn’t….
Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.
It is working but our team defense isn't
Should be onyl 2-0
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by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 28, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
2-0 is plenty with a lefty pitching, sadly...
Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
You're right,
but Piniero has given up 5 hits already.
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At least the Cubs and Brewers are losing too
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
2-0!!!!!!!!!!!
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
Same...
and its a lefty on the other side we’re facing so yeah…
Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.
doh
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 28, 2009 3:01 PM EDT reply actions
heh
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 28, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
god
cannot escape futbol
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 28, 2009 3:01 PM EDT reply actions
I'm of the opinion...
that the Cardinals could trot out 8 – .800 OPS right handed hitters against a lefty and still fail miserably.
Liriano with a perfect game
That handsome devil!
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white sox beating cubbies
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 28, 2009 3:02 PM EDT reply actions
I think I figured out the lefty problem.
It’s the curse of Rick Ankiel.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
Are you a pitcher with an ERA over 5 looking to lower it to 4?
Try facing the Cardinals lineup. Shave a full point off your ERA, and if you are left handed, pick up a no-hitter!
by cloistermaximus on Jun 28, 2009 3:03 PM EDT reply actions
Definitely
First time to ever win a FIFA tournament
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by jd is legend on Jun 28, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
hell yes
and its not even close
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
jesus here we go again...
I’m not a soccer guy, so I apologize in advance for my skepticism.
It just seems like every year USA soccer tries to spoon feed soccer to the US and it never really catches on.
Every year, this guy or that guy or this goalie or this coach or whatever is gonna make US soccer relevant on an international-level. However, I maintain that until your main guy isn’t some 5’6’’ balding dude (Donovan), you’re probably gonna get schooled by the countries whose best athletes grow up playing this sport (and not football, basketball, or baseball instead).
I’ve tried and tried to like soccer; I love sports in general and a few of my good friends are die-hard soccer guys. I just can’t get into it, no matter what I do.
A lot of great athletates in the USA play soccer
But none continue to play. I played select soccer till HIgh School till Football took over
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by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 28, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
So, are you saying
That you have to have some hunk of man-meat to ogle before you can like soccer? Because Donovan has serious skills, despite his looks. Also, the US has NEVER gotten into a championship game, and their on the verge of winning an International Championship. Easily the best USA has ever done.
That said, I played soccer most of my life, and I rarely watch it. It is kind of boring to watch. Never noticed cuz I was always playing it.
Also
International Soccer is the most corrupt sport in existence. The NBA had a ref influencing regular season games. A German ref admitted he was fixing games during the World Cup, the highest level of play for International Soccer. Disturbing to think about.
On the refs note
How is it that NBA players manage to constantly, constantly complain to the refs while still looking manly but when soccer players complain they look about 10x bitchier.
Not afraid to nitpick
Because
They fall on the ground, obviously faking it, every time they’re touched. It’s embarrassing.
they look 10x bitchier just playing their sport, IMO.
Constantly falling down, taking dives, etc.
I dunno….I just don’t get the appeal.
Ha...
No, no man-meat necessary.
I’m saying that compared to the big-dog countries/teams, the US doesn’t really field big, strong athletes. I remember trying to get into the last World Cup (or maybe the previous one) and England, Germany, et al. had just huge players out there. Those dudes were probably like the best athletes in their respective schools, etc. and they kept into soccer. Like Flim said above, those same dudes in the US (i.e., the best athletes) play other stuff.
My opinion is that until our best athletes focus solely on soccer (and until there’s a reason to do so), we’ll always be playing catch-up. And until the MEN’S US is wicked-good at soccer on a consistent basis, it will always be a fringe sport here.
By the way,
Landon Donovan is SEXY.
That is all.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
although i think there was a big win against england in the 60s ...
by hangingfromatree on Jun 28, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
1950
nice win but not even close to this
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
I know nothing about soccer
But wasn’t the Spain win to get to the final the biggest win for the National Team before this?
Not afraid to nitpick
You could argue that it was
but many people would say the 1-0 win against England some 50 years ago was the biggest.
I don't even care if we lose now
USA UP 2-0!!!!!
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Definitely would rather the Cards lose and USA win than vice versa
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by jd is legend on Jun 28, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
That sounds like Cubs talk to me
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by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 28, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
One game in a 162-game season vs. the final of a FIFA tournament?
No way
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by jd is legend on Jun 28, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
When we miss the playoff's by one game
I am blaming you
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by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 28, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
By all means
Let Joe Thurston and Todd Wellemeyer off the hook
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by jd is legend on Jun 28, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 28, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah forget that
But as long as the Cards are going to look like a blue gill flopping all over the bottom of a boat the USA winning can tide me over.
Not afraid to nitpick
BASEBALL
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 28, 2009 3:04 PM EDT reply actions
I just feel like the Cardinals are staying in the range of +3 to +8 games above .500
All season. I won’t think we are a playoff contender till we are 10_ games up
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we were 10 games up
when we were 17-7. were we contenders then?
by hangingfromatree on Jun 28, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
even in the amazing NL Central?
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 28, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Makes me long for the days of 2004-05
when we got 20, 30, 40+ games over .500
"Fortune favors the bold!" - Virgil
by player2bnamedl8r on Jun 28, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Liriano is half the pitcher he was
He has seriously altered his delivery to protect the elbow. Dollar on a dime says he will break out the slider again before payday arrives. Not having had a chance to read the thread I will say that Albert’s at bat was a cheap way to greet you new partner.
That thing isn't his slider
His slider was like a frizz. Broke 3 feet. With his elbow bent this much he can’t do it. Santana has shown him the logic in self preservation.
His slider was 90 mph it wasn't a frisbee, he's just lost the depth on it
And “with his elbow bent this much”? I have no idea what that means.
Not afraid to nitpick
I will let you work with
integrating what is implied by some your own comments. See if you can find some film, that can help.
Oh boy
I’m not a mechanics idiot, I literally have never heard “elbow too bent” in any relation to the ability to throw a breaking ball. In his arm action? At release?
Not afraid to nitpick
Joker
There is a correlation between the forward velocity of the pitch and arm speed with wrist extension. The tension in the slider grip effects the wrist function to a lesser degree than the attempt to spin the ball with curve grip, which is why it goes faster. Santana and Liriano extended the envelope (Randy Johnson) by pitching almost straight armed at about a three quarter angle. This increased the velocity dramatically but unfortunately, communicated all of the rotational forces to the elbow. A devastating pitch to try and hit but unfortunately has you shaking hands with Thomas Johns far to soon.
No hitter, no hitter no hitter no hitter no hitter no hitter
Liriano has a no hitter, perfect game, !!!!!
What a way to introduce your new trade acquisition to the team
Watch your new team get no-hit
by cloistermaximus on Jun 28, 2009 3:13 PM EDT reply actions
"Can I go back to Cleveland?"
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by jd is legend on Jun 28, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I love that they bat him cleanup behind Albert in his first game
Not a bad welcoming committee
defy, cards, defy. hey logic --- you suck.
I know
I made a comment about this above, but it didn’t get any traction.
I see DeRo as an ideal 2 hitter. Pencil him in front of Albert, write Ludwick into the 4 hole, then Raz and figure out the rest as needed.
If they got DeRosa and were thinking of him as a cleanup hitter, I like this deal a lot less.
We traded J.D. Drew?
/Chitown x2
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by jd is legend on Jun 28, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
heh
I had the nextdef hd on
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 28, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
perhaps I will change my moniker
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 28, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
hey
when I did that we scored a shitload of runs, so don’t diss it
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 28, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Please don't
I think I like you all the more for that game.
Plus how many people get turned into a verb? Chitown’d is now in the vernacular here.
heh
ok
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 28, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
it was very commendable
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 28, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
derosa is the worst trade even
his cardinal average is .000
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Seems about average for the team vs Lirano
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by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 28, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
And he has every LOB
Bum
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by jd is legend on Jun 28, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
the season is 10 games away from being halfway over
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 28, 2009 3:19 PM EDT reply actions
rec'd.
Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Errors
working their way around the field. 6, then 5, now 4.
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Why do Sunday games
Get switched over to these shmendriks? I can’t take that Frank guy at all, and the most excited this play-by-play guy has gotten was the 3-run homer by the Twins. I miss Dan and Al constantly agreeing with each other while sounding like they’re arguing.
time to open a franklin
in honour of our new 3B/LF/whatever…. Twisted Thistle IPA today.
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Liriano? really?
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 28, 2009 3:24 PM EDT reply actions
Shutout is next
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by jd is legend on Jun 28, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Luddy!
XBH that isn’t a HR.
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we didn't get DeRo just to be no hit
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
The GOB really didn't like the fact
that liriano was afraid to pitch to pujols…
- "I went at it and didn’t slow down, so it kind of bounced off me." -Lil' Dunc
Especially with a perfect game in the balance (through 3.2, but still)
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by jd is legend on Jun 28, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Whoa
DeRosa is the bum OF today. Go figure.
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I'm nervous about that trade
It’s not a blatent rip-off like the Mulder fiasco, but Shapiro is a sharp guy.
He started growing
it back right away.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
You sound confident
That’s a hard stache to fill in. It’s like saying you could grow a Billy Mays beard…. RIP….
I have a beard
But I have no illusions of coming close to LaRue or Billy Mays, in really any aspect of life.
I like mauer.
so no.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Only if it meant that Ankiel would be out for a while and Rasmus would play.
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dude
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
Be another Molina.
It’s the only way.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
I still like the comment
by someone else’s announcer (can’t recall who)
“He ran hard, but he didn’t run fast. He runs like he’s mad at the ground.”
i change my prescription
from 27 cardinals to 12
perhaps not as serious as it looked
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crappy
bunt technique
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good job joel
looked for a while like he was gonna screw that up…
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Unreal that he's only thrown 6 pitches (so far)
in the 5th here.
That includes 3 straight hits, plus a sac bunt. By far his most efficient inning and yet here we are, picking up runs.
how is that an efficient inning?
only one out.
by hangingfromatree on Jun 28, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Milwaukee and Cubbies losing
come on Cards, score some more!
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 28, 2009 3:31 PM EDT reply actions
I don't have faith in the Giants holding that league
with some unknown rookie named Ryan Sadowski on the hill.
holding the league?
last i checked the dodgers held that league
by hangingfromatree on Jun 28, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
walkoff GS by my boy DeRosa
i’m calling it…
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by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
woulda been nice, schu!
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 28, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
You hear about the Cardinal Prospect
Tyler Henley that slide through a guys legs to try to get to first base and not get tagged(failed epically)
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by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 28, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it was Horton
on the postgame recently (maybe yesterday?) saying how there have been studies that suggest that sliding into first is FASTER than running through it.
I always thought it was the other way around.
this may sound dumb
and i realize that part of it is the position of the ball in play… but if you’re really faster when running… why do guys dive for balls (particularly in the outfield)?
I’m not saying I buy into the diving into first. Just asking a question about a semi-parallel situation.
I would think that sliding THROUGH first
would maybe be faster. I wonder if you would have to maintain contact with the bag if you slide through and past first base.
I doubt it
The problem with sliding is you slow up your strides 2-3 steps before you actually slide, watch him slide in slow mo. He’s changing his running a solid 20 feet before the base.
Not afraid to nitpick
i know his glove is money
but jeez, greene sucks with the bat….
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Thurston and Tyler on the chopping block now that DeRo was pulled in...
They know their job is in question with Ryan hitting near .300 and K. Greene earning too much money to not play.
Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.
The Problem is that Thurston hits lefties better than righties
Which is not going to last
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by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 28, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I gotta get rid of Thurston
but it will be Tyler who goes, mark it down.
No idea whatsoever what Thurston brings to the table right now, other than our quota of boneheaded baserunning plays.
I like Thurston
I just think he got over exposed
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by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 28, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Like the scouting report got out
to simply throw to whatever base he happens to be on and get the pickoff?
I like thurston
but I think I’d keep Greene’s glove instead. We could use one less LHB too….
Ultimately, however, I’d be happier just to see us sticking with a 12 pitchers from now on.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I would've agreed with you
until Thurston got picked off twice in one week. I think those lack of fundamentals might be the things that drive Tony crazy.
defy, cards, defy. hey logic --- you suck.
They'll go into a shell...
and sweat out the last 30 minutes. Just like that Portugal game a few years ago.
brazil will cut us up if we do that
we need to press some
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I must say
it’s cool to see you guys getting so into the soccer. I think the USA could be one of the top 5-10 teams in the world very soon.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Will be ranked in the top 10 for sure
If we beat Brazil, maybe around #5 or #6?
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by jd is legend on Jun 28, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
hmmm i meant in "real" terms
the actual rankings kinda suck. They’re not representative. USA is no way in the top 5 or 6 teams in the world. But getting v close to the top 10 I think – perhaps even cracking it now. I reckon the only teams you can say for sure are better (on paper) would be Brazil (despite the current score ;-D), Argentina, and the top 5 or 6 in Europe.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey, we're in STL.
With the SLU soccer team being one of the best in the nation and WPS right across the river, it’s hard not to get involved in soccer around here.
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+1
Soccer is pretty popular in STL.
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by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 28, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I think they take something like the last 4 years of results
(i.e. the world cup/international competition “cycle”) and weight it more towards recent results. But it’s only based on competitive fixtures, so teams like the USA and Mexico and the better North African and Asian teams have an advantage by playing against weaker opposition so racking up the wins. Obviously, the quality of opposition is taken into account but I don’t think it’s done enough really.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Jason Kubel is wearing on me
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I miss Bob Gibson
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by jd is legend on Jun 28, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
it's really ozzie smith i miss.
since we’re being wistful. but edgar was fun.
by hangingfromatree on Jun 28, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
McGee too
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 28, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
They just replayed...
game 6 of the 1986 NLCS. That Keith Hernandez was one slick son of a gun with the glove. Like Pujols minus about 30 pounds. Wow…
that whole mets team, really
the coke, i mean.
by hangingfromatree on Jun 28, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
That whole team was a rough bunch...
Mookie, Straw, Hernandez… Dykstra and his “vitamins”… Backman…
But, man, Hernandez had some sick range. He looked like a cat over there. I’m sure the tight pants helped.
hernandez was probably slicker
with the glove. and the ’stache.
by hangingfromatree on Jun 28, 2009 3:42 PM EDT reply actions
Ok K. Greene does not need to be hitting in front of Albert...ever.
Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.
We really don't have anyone on this team with a decent OBP
Well I guess DeRosa does
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by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 28, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah that's terrible use of the guy....
i guess it’s the whole “he’ll get pitches to hit” thing. But please. DeRo at #2 vs LHP from now on….
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by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
funny how Bert apologized for that
considering he did the same last year in the booth
geesh Albert
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
unfortunately, no, we won't always have KC
but if we could play them all year, man-oh-man what a great record we’d have
by hangingfromatree on Jun 28, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
he's an awful player.
makes sense he has awful ab’s
by hangingfromatree on Jun 28, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
great idea batting KG second
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 28, 2009 3:47 PM EDT reply actions
we sucked the ability to hit leftes right outta DeRo
damnit
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
Kinda the whole team...
at least the righties. Liriano looks like he’s throwing lots of off-speed junk and everyone is out in front of it.
And Albert looked really bad in his last AB too. Liriano looked absolutely nasty that half.
Wow
That was a goal
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
After two months
of near perfection, mlb.tv has been really shitty for me the last couple of weeks.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
ditto
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 28, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
bbc? I might put it on the tv...
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by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
awesome i got it on now
i think it’s gonna be slow tho with mlb.tv on too!
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by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
also - has to be TOTALLY over the line
i.e. the whole of the ball, not sure if that makes any difference…
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by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
In soccer, winning is everything.
I don’t care if we get some blown calls as long as we win today.
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can I get highlights on the internet anywhere?
who was in the brazil team?
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by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
nah it's on tv here
bbc3, i got it on the tv
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by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
just ignore the soccer comments
… they’ll go away if you do
by hangingfromatree on Jun 28, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
i think the USA are stronger
but other than that I have limited opinion :-)
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by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Nothing chaps the Mexicans' asses quite like getting beat by the USA in soccer
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by jd is legend on Jun 28, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
wow
Okay, so apparently this is ANOTHER thing I don’t like about soccer.
So you score maybe 4 goals, total, in the entire 90 minutes. Goals are at such a premium in this sport. The ball is pretty huge and it’s kind of a rarity that it even comes close to scoring, yet somehow you can look at that play and say that it WASN’T a goal?
How? How does this happen?
sure
but the relative hugeness of the ball, coupled with how scoring apparently isn’t a good thing (kidding, but I think you’d admit that there are fewer scoring plays, relatively speaking), makes it hard to believe you can actually “miss” when it’s actually a goal.
And I guess you could also ask why there’s no review of the play? Given the importance put on even one single goal, wouldn’t you want to get the call right even moreso than making sure the shooter was behind the 3 pt line, for example?
kinda gotta agree really...
Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
danks just got out of a bases-loaded jam...
- "I went at it and didn’t slow down, so it kind of bounced off me." -Lil' Dunc
Watching it on BBC?
Be glad. I hate our soccer announcers.
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 28, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
what's with the fly balls Pinata?
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
abusing the referee
unusually enough in this game…. Great save by Howard. He’s a fantastic GK.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Ah...
sounds like my idea to get a set of cards for the office… if people piss me off give them a yellow card… if they really piss me off give them a red and tell them they can’t talk to me the rest of today or tomorrow.
i'll refrain from voicing my views on that sport
i got my ass chewed out when i said i didn’t like mj the other day, so i’ll just keep quiet this time
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
Pinata sucks again
i tired to tell you people not to believe this clown could keep it up
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
dunno if you're being sarcastic?
he’s pitched OK. No walks. Only one dinger. Errors cost at least 2 runs. That Greene play in the last inning cost a run. He could’ve got through 7 IP with 2 runs with stellar defence.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
half sarcastic yes
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
You being serious?
This was a decent outing. 6.2 IP in just 82 pitches. Only 2 ER today. Didn’t walk anyone.
This was not at all a bad outing from Jo-El.
When you don't strike anyone out or walk anyone you can be servicable.
And look good on days where the defense is great and look terrible when balls are leaking though.
He is a average pitcher that has been lucky so far this year.
Somewhere paint is drying, too...
Doesn’t mean anyone would want to watch it (much less watch it and post about it on a blog devoted to the baseball Cardinals…)
does sbnation have a soccer blog?
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
totally disagree
we talk about 90 other things per thread other than the game.
I’m not a soccer fan but I can scroll past comments with this fancy invention called the mouse.
I agree with nota
if this place is like a sports bar – both games would be on the TV – and you can tune into the conversation you care about.
yeah, if they don't talk soccer, how can we make fun of them?
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
Shit
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
someone out on the bases and it's NOT thurston????
wtf???
Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.
terrible miss by robinho wow
they were lucky there that fabiano reacted…
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HA!
nice
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
Brazil is the USC of world soccer
You know they’re the best team. They might not be ranked #1, but they’re the best team. You watch them play and you wonder “How do they ever lose?” But they do.
C’mon USA
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 28, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Spain have been AWESOME last ~2 years
I think they’re #1 at the moment. They have the talent of brazil but they seem to put it on the pitch more consistently (thanks, Joe Morgan…)
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by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
there's an extreme...
home/away split at work. Every tournament in Europe they lose, every one outside of Europe they win.
it's a long way back to win now
i think brazil might have a couple more chances yet…. but I wouldn’t give up, it’s still 2-2…
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by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
geesh Luddy, take a f'ing pitch
that was in the dirt
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
worked this time too
any hit from him is a step in the right direction
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
5-2
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by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Well we've got a friendly
with Liriano and Ankiel. Ank got carded earlier and like, he totally got hosed on that because all he did was fake fall down like everyone else.
Wish I could’ve done more with that.
Awesome...
I switch back to the game… hear 10 seconds of papers shuffling before one word was spoken… HOW ARE THESE GUYS STILL EMPLOYED???
Dick needs to go away
for realz yo.
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
why
does anyone throw rick-dick anything that is not below the knee and off the plate outside?
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
now that's just not fair
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
Kinda OT-
So does anyone think you’d recognize LaRue if you saw him in public or do you think he just would blend in?
When I lived near Pittsburgh, I always maintained that you could never recognize Ben Roethlisberger because he looked like pretty much every dude living in the area…..white, kinda chubby, some facial hair. Just wondering if it’s kind of the same thing with LaRue here in this lovely part of the Midwest.
(God he is soooo slow too)
My brother's
GF recognized him when he came into her Starbucks.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
LaRue amd Miri make a Porno?
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 28, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
DON'T SWING JOE
damnit!@
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
(sorry to keep the soccer going)
but wasn’t this supposed to be like the biggest victory in the history of US soccer or something like a half hour ago?
kind of....
there was a huge discussion about the importance of this like 30 minutes of soccer vs. today’s Cards game (on a Cards blog).
So if it was gonna be the biggest win ever, what is it now? Seriously…not trying to be a dick, but rather just seeing how this thing looks within the context of the results instead of the process.
USA is being lazy on defense and doesn't even try to keep possession of the ball on offense...
terrible second half.
Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.
Not a better pitching matchup than Carpenter and Johnson...
perhaps Carpenter and either Lincecum or Cain??? Do these idiots even attempt a thought before they speak?
SPRINT TO FIRST ON A WALK BABY
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
He might be displacing Jose Reyes
as the most exciting player in baseball. I mean, he just plays with so much joy.
/throws up
run to first joe
and don’t stop till you get to memphis
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
by gdm426 on Jun 28, 2009 4:16 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
God DID YOU SEE THURSTON RUN DOWN TO 1B?
Man I love watching that guy take a walk.
Now don’t get picked off, effer.
no excuse for walking jt there
hopefully they’ll pay
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
i'd take greene out for a hitter...
if there’s one on the bench…
Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.
gotdamnit T.Greene get some pitch recognition will ya?
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
The Cardinals
have more than a few players who aren’t major league ready
by YesWeOquendo on Jun 28, 2009 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
they should put 10 men up for this corner
might be nearly the last chance….
Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.
Hey everyone
I would’ve been on this earlier but my power got KO’d for a while. I see the score is 5-2… how did Minnesota score (homers, singles, etc.)?
The good news is that San Fran is beating Milwaukee 5-0 in the 7th
Welcome to Baseball Heaven.
mauer dinger
after a hit and an error. The other two runs have just come from singles pretty much. Greene could’ve made a defensive play to prevent #5.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
morneau, sorry
freudian slip :-)
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by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
OMG GREENE TO STRIKE OUT?!?!
i’d never have believed it….
Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.
mother of ass
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
haha Greene
the pitch was a strike without you swinging
The Redbirds are of the highest priority to me... As it should be
We haven't had a walkoff all year
And I’m not sure we’ve ever overcome a 3+ run deficit beyond the 7th.
by cloistermaximus on Jun 28, 2009 4:18 PM EDT reply actions
This year or ever?
We came back from down like 7 in the 9th against Cincy a few years ago
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 28, 2009 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
STL is not a comeback team this year
It most likely won’t be done, and hasn’t so far this year.
Welcome to Baseball Heaven.
announcers...
since when was Hawksworth a “can’t miss” prospect??? He was our #1 back when we had NO PROSPECTS in the jocketty era, that’s about it…
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by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
the hawk
this is a perez situation, so will be interesting
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
yes, leave thursty in to commit error after error at 3rd
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
WELCOME HOME DERO!!!!
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
no it's an inside-the-park-HR...
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by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Fucking AWESOME play
I think I’m going to like this guy.
by cloistermaximus on Jun 28, 2009 4:22 PM EDT reply actions
i hate losing like the USA just did
that game was theres
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Stupid Brazil
Back to baseball
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
sadly looking like it might be 0-for-2 today....
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by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Psyche
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 28, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
i actually think he might
he plays about the same place DeRo was at, and he’s tall & dives. so he just might get it
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
he's quite fast too
just takes terrible routes. I don’t think he reacts quick enough to get a glove near it. DeRo took off for it off the bat – i think dunc doesn’t get there.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
would anyone else like an overflow?
just asking because it’s getting choppy & slow for me
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
My roommate is a Brazil fan...
so everytime they scored in the second half, all I heard was “Woooooooo!” and “FUCK YEAH”…
very disheartening…
Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.
is he brazilian?
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
No, which is why I'm confused.
Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.
then fuck him
unpatriotic prick
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
lol, he's infantry
Army….hardly unpatriotic
His favorite player is Ronaldinho….i think thats why.
Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.
heh
yea i was mostly kidding…but that is really weird
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
I don’t think it makes him unpatriotic. It just means he likes the Brazilian style of play more.
I just thought I’d chime in.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
You don't root against your own country
If he were rooting for Brazil against England or Spain, that’s cool, but you don’t root against your home country.
i was joking
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Ahhh Rolla the most depressing place
I was really set on going to Rolla till I visited. I didn’t see one good looking girl the whole time I was there. My parents told me I could not go to Rolla
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 28, 2009 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Good to see...
your parents are thinking about the important stuff. The protractor to chick ratio is about 10:1.
by guayzimi on Jun 28, 2009 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
My parent's advice when I left for college
Don’t do Cocaine. That was it.
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 28, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
In Missouri,
it should’ve been “Don’t do meth.”
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
One time after a party
I found meth in my cabinet where my cookings pans were. It was in a little snorter. I was very much freaked out. I flushed it down the toilet so my roommates didn’t get any ideas when they were drunk
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 28, 2009 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Mine told me just to use protection...and don't tell them the details.
Yes, I am a proud to be a Hyperventilating Prospect Geek.
The less than stellar female prospects
is one big reason I went to Illinois for my engineering degree. We have a business school here to balance out the engineering school.
About the same amount of quality girls
Even the ugly girls had guys all over them. If I was a ugly girl I would go to Rolla. While Mizzou was like golden palace of hot chicks. I will never be able to get the amount of hot chicks I got in college.
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 28, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
shit, 9:30 here and i've still not eaten
better put something in the oven and crack open another IPA…
Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.
joe mijares?
I have honestly never heard of this guy.
Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.
perhaps I will never hear of him again :-)
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by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
derosa woooo!
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history tells us again and again how GOB points out the folly of man
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 28, 2009 4:28 PM EDT reply actions
Is your feed really that off?
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 28, 2009 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
and God bless him for it too
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
no
just stil excited about the trade
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 28, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
But here's another spot
where the 13 pitchers just kills the team. We have Brendan Ryan going up there….Brendan Ryan, who never ever walks. He hacks at everything. So the big objective of this AB is to get to Albert.
And now Colby comes up and effs up all the logic of my point. Ah, but apparently it was just TLR pulling a mind game on Gardenhire. And his head explodes after TLR pinch hits for the pinch hitter.
If I'm Gardenhire
I let Ryan PH there – they’ve pretty much said he can’t bat this weekend after the cortisone shot.
No kidding
I’d be like “Um, who cares….it’s an injured Brendan Ryan and I don’t bow down to the splits like TLR does.”
Its good to see another athlete
on this team. Both Greene’s sullen and struggling. Shu in a scowling pout. We need more help.
How is one
in a scowling pout?
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
Check Shumakers face.
Almost a perfect replica. Worthy of Madame Tousso’s.
Ha has it.
But isn’t IN it. Very weird syntax and word choice on your end.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
I could see that
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 28, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
It’d be nice to have a lead on Milwaukee when we face Lincecum tomorrow
Welcome to Baseball Heaven.
hmm
Brendan Ryan PH?
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 28, 2009 4:32 PM EDT reply actions
swung at a pitch out of the zone
with predictable results.
- "I went at it and didn’t slow down, so it kind of bounced off me." -Lil' Dunc
Wow.....
Colby second DP in two games….in which he really hasnt hit into any at all, all season.
Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.
boring announcers
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 28, 2009 4:35 PM EDT reply actions
well that sucked
i guess that’s the game :-(. No way we get anything from Nathan.
Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.
Right up the middle, pitcher just made a great stab at it.
Colby tried to do the right thing and go up the middle…
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It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
Ludwick is always late on that crappy
step in move. Result is a poor bat route and the weak pop ups away. McRae is a poor communicator.
Thurston
Is absolutely the worst baserunner I have ever seen. I’m going to hold back here, but I’ve had it with this stupid bullshit.
will someone please
teach Thurston how to run the bases?
I’ve never seen anyone who’s baserunning IQ is so bad that it makes me sick of him.
In what St. Louis Cardinals manager Tony La Russa called a "big day" for his club, starter Chris Carpenter took the mound for his first session of live batting practice and promptly buzzed the fuzz on catcher Jason LaRue’s chin with an errant fastball.
"Sorry," Carpenter called from the mound.
"Don’t say you’re sorry," LaRue barked back.
"He said it," pitching coach Dave Duncan said from the side of the cage, "but he didn’t mean it."
~ DG
Of the 10 worst baserunning gaffes in Major League baseball this year
Joe Thurston has 12 of them.
Please….PLEASE, send his ass down.
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That is on Okendo
Twin are never going to throw to the plate on that play. Thurston was hustling. That ball rolled through the infield to center field. The run at the plate was meaningless.
Respectfully disagree.
Jose has to be conservative there, and Thurston was watching the ball, not his third base coach. That’s tee ball stuff. When there’s a runner in front, you always refer to the coach. Every time. Just pathetic.
as the tail runner
you always need to know what the guy in front of you is doing before committing to the next base. thurston blew it.
by hangingfromatree on Jun 28, 2009 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions
totally agree
WTF did they hold the runner on that one for? Unless Larue fell down or something, there’s no reason not to send him home. He could have walked home.
- "I went at it and didn’t slow down, so it kind of bounced off me." -Lil' Dunc
he's made 7 outs on the bases that weren't CS
at some point you need to get mad at him. Oquendo might have made a small error in not sending LaRue, but Thurston had his head up his butt. That was the huge mistake. You can’t anticipate what Oquendo is going to do in that situation.
can we just send down thurston and t. greene. and khalil
oh and how bout we put skip back in the outfield so he can be worth sumthing
Thats fine
The center fielder had to be directed to the play. He wasn’t even thinking throw. They were yielding the run at the plate, as any good team would do. He does not need to be conservative. The best winning scenario is a cowboy play from a rookie allowing runners an 2nd and 3rd with one out. The Twins conceded the run. It wasn’t taken. Yes that is a running mistake. It is a larger mistake by a snoozing Oquendo.
One more thing.
If you think the Twins outfielders haven’t been schooled about risking Mauers life on meaningless chances, You would be wrong. The Twins number 2 hitter comes to the plate thinking only single in the 8th. A perfect stroke and a run. Cardinals are without a clue in simple roll playing and situational responsibilities. They are poorly coached, and confused I dare say by Tony’s platoon-isms.
i agree
khalil in the 2 spot????
wat was tony thinking?
i know he will get better pitches to hit but still… at his best he is only a .320 obp% guy
when ryan gets back i hope the first 2 guys in the order the rest of the year are shumaker and ryan
oh and shumaker back in the outfield too
by cardsforever on Jun 28, 2009 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions
well, at least we out-pythagorean'd the cubs and brewers today.
- "I went at it and didn’t slow down, so it kind of bounced off me." -Lil' Dunc
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