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Game 77 Open Thread -- June 28, 2009

Adam1_tiny by chuckb on Comment 837 comments

Minnesota Twins at St. Louis Cardinals, Jun 28, 2009 2:15 PM EDT


 

Liriano Pineiro
4.75 FIP 2.96 FIP

Yippee! Another lefty to go against our anemic offense! Liriano hasn't been very good so far this season but lefties haven't needed to be very good in order to beat us. Liriano walks a lot (too bad we don't know how to take a walk), strikes out a lot, and gives up more than his share of homers. You think Albert's got two more in him today? As you'd expect, Liriano's been deadly against lefties.

There's really not much to add about Pineiro from what I said the other day except that he's been tremendous at home and just ok on the road. A .575 OPS against is what Joel sports. This could be a 1-0 game.

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What!

You mean you don’t enjoy Jay Randolph’s hallucinations? You saying you wouldn’t confuse a pop-up on the infield with a 450-foot bomb from time to time? Ha!

V, b.

by LukeMP1186 on Jun 28, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm getting the Twins feed on EI too

is the video quality as horrible for you as it is for me? Everything white is blown out – and everything else super blurry?

by TNTinCO on Jun 28, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's actually giving me a headache trying to focus

How can it actually be that bad? Are all of their cameras settings just automated for playing indoors?

by TNTinCO on Jun 28, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

DeRosa will hit a HR and take a curtain call today

Calling it

"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer

by jd is legend on Jun 28, 2009 2:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm eating sherbet

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 28, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

orange/lime/raspberry

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 28, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ouch

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 28, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

BOOO torn hamstring prediction

HOORAY beer!!

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by MilCardFan on Jun 28, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

seems like chuck has been mailing it in lately

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 28, 2009 2:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The KSDK is just one big bag of suck

Jay Randolph and Frank Cusumano are awful.

by dcfcblues on Jun 28, 2009 2:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I like Frank

He just said if Pineiro just played the Met’s he would be a HOFer

I laughed

Stat Whore

by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 28, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He also, annoyingly,

kept calling the Mets “the Metropolitans.”

"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Jun 28, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

kinda like

the tampa bay team is the devil rays?

by prophetjohn on Jun 28, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

No

They are actually just the Rays

Stat Whore

by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 28, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And the Dodgers

were the Trolley Dodgers?

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by MilCardFan on Jun 28, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kinda

the Mets were the Metropolitans in the 1880s, then were renamed that when they came back into the league in the 1960s but legal issues had the name shortened to Mets.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Jun 28, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So they're no longer

the Metropolitans, just like the Reds are no longer the Redlegs.

"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Jun 28, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know.

But he just kept saying it.

"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Jun 28, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Quit saying that"

is my favorite saying.

"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah

by Alxfritz on Jun 28, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Me too!

It’s basically all I say to my husband.

"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Jun 28, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shut it, you.

"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Jun 28, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

so

any news on the cardinal front?

just an average sunday in cardinal nation?

i say we keep 10 run sundays alive

by prophetjohn on Jun 28, 2009 2:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey, I hear DeRosa will sport #7

That’s a serious number, plus one…

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by MilCardFan on Jun 28, 2009 2:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It's the fingers on your hand, plus yo thumba and yo index finga

"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer

by jd is legend on Jun 28, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ther's a lot of numbers, it's true...

I’m shutting up now

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by MilCardFan on Jun 28, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sounds like

a double schocker

"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah

by Alxfritz on Jun 28, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ow.

"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Jun 28, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's pretty much the President Casino commercial of this year

I hated it at first but it’s so bad I’ve learned to love it. But the Casino one I had already learned to love from hockey season so half this baseball season has been wasted commercial wise.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Jun 28, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

When you come down to the President Casino

You’re gonna have some fun…

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by MilCardFan on Jun 28, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

YEEEAHH

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Jun 28, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hopefully he'll bring us some good luck

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 28, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A couple of hits off a lefty will suffice for me

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by MilCardFan on Jun 28, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the choir's here

somebody start preaching

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 28, 2009 2:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Todd Wellemeyer

/shows self out

Albert Pujols is ridiculous.

by stlhulsey on Jun 28, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

reply fail

Albert Pujols is ridiculous.

by stlhulsey on Jun 28, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hes a suiter

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jun 28, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

DeRosa's a Dapper Dan man.

defy, cards, defy. hey logic --- you suck.

by effin fisk on Jun 28, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Looks like Pineiro

is in a tight spot.

Those Pilgrims ain't lookin' so proud now...

by giveml on Jun 28, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Are you kidding me?

Bruce Sutter was decent, for one…

by guayzimi on Jun 28, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry for the snottiness...

I forget not everyone is as ancient as me…

by guayzimi on Jun 28, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A: Lee Smith

and Bruce Sutter off the top of my head.

"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Jun 28, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Grudz

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Jun 28, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Indeed.

"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Jun 28, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oooh, good one. I totally forgot he was with CHC.

"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Jun 28, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

keep em sinking low in the zone, joel

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 28, 2009 2:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Put DeRosa at short!!

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by MilCardFan on Jun 28, 2009 2:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That would put Mini Dunc in left...

That would not be an even worse option.

by ducttape16 on Jun 28, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, he can play both, damn it

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by MilCardFan on Jun 28, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ank in left, Ras in CF

Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.

by The_teague on Jun 28, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

At least Rasmus takes healthy cuts against LHP

Dunc looks fooled hitting all lefties…he’ll get a gift pitch every now and again

Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.

by The_teague on Jun 28, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Raz seems to do well vs "power" pitchers.

RHP / LHP seems to matter less than Finesse vs Power.

by DriverZn on Jun 28, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

to be fair

he’s hitting lefties worse than anyone on the team

by prophetjohn on Jun 28, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Here's my signature and approval of this post.

Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.

by The_teague on Jun 28, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

recovering from

a cortisone shot in the wrist

by prophetjohn on Jun 28, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i'd imagine that hurts like a mofo

an injection into your wrist, can not feel good.

by dcfcblues on Jun 28, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cortisone shots hurt like hell for a day or two

regardless of where they’re injected.

At least I thought so

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by MilCardFan on Jun 28, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My husband

was in immense pain after both his.

"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Jun 28, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But after the "damnation fire burn" feeling goes away

My shoulder felt great for about 6 months

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by MilCardFan on Jun 28, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

His got way worse.

Surgery followed.

"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Jun 28, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I'm heading that way I think

It wore off. Yuck

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by MilCardFan on Jun 28, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, wrist

Been buggin him since high school

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by MilCardFan on Jun 28, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow T. Greene...

that was terribly played….you looked like Jr. High SS right there….

Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.

by The_teague on Jun 28, 2009 2:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

what's the over/under

on how many times Ankiel K’s against Liriano today?

by hangingfromatree on Jun 28, 2009 2:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

3

i say under

by prophetjohn on Jun 28, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Liriano throws off peed

Over/under is 4

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by MilCardFan on Jun 28, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Off speed...speed

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by MilCardFan on Jun 28, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

.5 strikeouts...

Liriano won’t make it through our right-handed murderer’s row twice.

by guayzimi on Jun 28, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

K Greene

looking very good at third.

"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Jun 28, 2009 2:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I hate to disagree with Whitey

But Tyler Greene does not excite me as a major leaguer in any facet of the game.

by Midwestside on Jun 28, 2009 2:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

he's got a great glove

but i still think he’ll struggle to be a replacement-level hitter.

Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.

by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

wouldn't say "great"

maybe above average. his bat does suck.

by hangingfromatree on Jun 28, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hey guys

first game I’ve watched live in ages!

can we please, please, not see joe thurston on this team any more. At all.

Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.

by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 2:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah

i’m so pumped by that acquisition! Gonna have a franklin tonight for the DeRo pickup – exactly what we need vs LHP I think.

Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.

by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Derosa

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 28, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So would Twins fans

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by MilCardFan on Jun 28, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

this cannot be reiterated enough

4B - beer baseball bands blog
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 28, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also

Prior wouldn’t have cratered if he’d been a Twin. Karma, you know.

by StanTheManFan on Jun 28, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah he would've

The GOB’s would’ve frowned on the Twins not taking the home town guy who wanted to play for them.

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by MilCardFan on Jun 28, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not to disrespect an entire country

But to disrespect an entire country, Brazil’s national anthem is not very awe inspiring. Just about the opposite.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Jun 28, 2009 2:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That's kinda odd coming from an American though

Our national anthem is incredibly hard to sing. “America, the Beautiful” should be our anthem.

"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer

by jd is legend on Jun 28, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Need a DP here fellas

"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer

by jd is legend on Jun 28, 2009 2:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

so yeah

this mauer guy is pretty good

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 28, 2009 2:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Lets go Cardinals...and Lets Go Team USA

no pressure on Team USA

I want a altiodore hattrick and a derosa homer today

DO IT!

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

by VolsnCards5 on Jun 28, 2009 2:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

So not much discussion on the batting order

I see DeRosa as more of a #2 hitter, no?

I’d like to see a 2-5 of DeRo, Albert, Lud, and Raz basically everyday and figure out the rest from there.

Oh and no more Thurston.

by goodymobb on Jun 28, 2009 2:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ouch

Whatever LaRue said to Pineiro, it was the wrong thing

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Jun 28, 2009 2:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We're dealing with a lot of shit here

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by MilCardFan on Jun 28, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lets not overreact

he gave up a homerun to one of the top 5 hitters in the game.

by dcfcblues on Jun 28, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Doesnt matter who is up at the plate....

they are hitting that pitch out….up and middle in, slow, no movement and sitting on a tee.

Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.

by The_teague on Jun 28, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

actually it does matter

bad hitters miss meatballs on occasion, good hitters don’t.

besides, one bad pitch doesn’t mean his HR/FB ratio are headed back to norms.

by dcfcblues on Jun 28, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not arguing his HR/FB ratio

I’m just saying that Major League don’t miss that pitch very often. That pitch is what you call a “watermelon”.

Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.

by The_teague on Jun 28, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Major League hitters*

Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.

by The_teague on Jun 28, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No it wasnt

It wasnt in the middle of the plate at all. It was tight inside.

Stat Whore

by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 28, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's where Albert

likes his HR Derby pitches.

"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Jun 28, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

no, the law of averages does....

Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.

by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

eh

I think I’d disagree that Mourneau is one of the top 5… maybe top 10

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 28, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good location Pineiro

NOT….fuck.

Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.

by The_teague on Jun 28, 2009 2:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I guess this means

pinata showed up today… fun

by ducttape16 on Jun 28, 2009 2:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

and when it opened

it was full of candy

"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension

by sportsman on Jun 28, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmm, surprised Jay Randolph

didn’t think that was a pop up to Albert as it came off his bat

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by MilCardFan on Jun 28, 2009 2:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

wow

could he have put that in a worse place? 90mph on the inside-centre of the plate, belt-high? Ermmmm…. Don’t do that against good left-handed hitters please.

Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.

by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 2:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I was thinking he needed to bust him inside

But a little further inside. Does Pineiro feature a cutter?

"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer

by jd is legend on Jun 28, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and

more up. belt high over the plate is almost always bad news unless it is 95ish+

Those Pilgrims ain't lookin' so proud now...

by giveml on Jun 28, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Use the Radio feed

Than just sync it up to your TV feed

www.toadonalump.com

Stat Whore

by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 28, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

On MLB.com I run the video feed on Firefox and KTRS on Safari..

Works fine when you use the normal video mode on Firefox. The Highdef mode has way too much lagg…

I stood where no man goes...

by Desert_Rat on Jun 28, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

eh...

this is a new Cardinal team. We come back from 3-0 deficits now.

by guayzimi on Jun 28, 2009 2:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

any rumours yet on who might be on the DeRo ptbnl list?

Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.

by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 2:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I heard it was Albert Pujols and Colby Rasmus

"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer

by jd is legend on Jun 28, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

how is that even a choice?

it’s todd if that’s the case. Ugh. That would absolutely suck.

Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.

by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I guess it ties into whether we sign him to an extension or not...

if we do, they get the better player. If he is just a rental, they get the lower end guy.

Yes, I am a proud to be a Hyperventilating Prospect Geek.

by mtzxc on Jun 28, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i'm not interested in signing derosa to an extension especially

but giving up Todd along with Perez would be horrible. We need Todd in the pen next year. Samuel is kinda filler really, high upside but he hasn’t figured it all out yet, still v wild. Todd is pretty much MLB-ready. There’s worlds between them as prospects. I don’t see how they can be mentioned in the same sentence. I still think Todd could be a useful starter, too, if they want to make that reverse move…

Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.

by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let's go Tribe

the Indians SBNation site seems to think they have two different options depending on whether the Cardinals make the playoffs or not. That doesn’t make sense to me as it has been reported that the choice must be made by 9/1. Now if we have clinched the Central by then I guess I will have no option but to be happy about the deal.

Those Pilgrims ain't lookin' so proud now...

by giveml on Jun 28, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Some tool...

on foxsports.com said maybe Samuel or Todd. Ridiculous.

by guayzimi on Jun 28, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Todd of Samuel, sounds like an old English name...

“Why yes, I am Todd of Samuel and this is my cousin, Franklin of Motte”.

Yes, I am a proud to be a Hyperventilating Prospect Geek.

by mtzxc on Jun 28, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

3 run deficit

vs. a lefty who’s been struggling? Hopefully DeRo can help our normal output against such pitchers.

by goodymobb on Jun 28, 2009 2:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

As a man who up to a couple weeks ago hated Pineiro

He has pitched extremely well this year, so let’s not turn on him so quickly.

by Midwestside on Jun 28, 2009 2:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree

I just looked at the pitch on Gameday, It was a solid pitch. Very inside pitch that he just turned on

Stat Whore

by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 28, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

it was a meatball

to a left-hander. Awful pitch.

Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.

by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I disagree

He pitched away away away away away away then a very inside pitch. Which could of easily been called a ball. It was not a meatball.

Stat Whore

by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 28, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It was a meatball.

Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.

by The_teague on Jun 28, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

it was well over the plate

<90mph and not moving much. Belt high.

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by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

no movement, right in Morneau's wheelhouse.

Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.

by The_teague on Jun 28, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Remember when Liriano and Santana

were the deadliest 1-2 combo in baseball a ciouple years back?

Wow, Liriano’s fallen off a cliff since TJ surgery.

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by MilCardFan on Jun 28, 2009 2:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah after one inning

he looks like the 2006 version.

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by MilCardFan on Jun 28, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

well the first 3 in the lineup

have been there all year struggling against lefties…..

Man, this guy is gonna shut us down today. Take pitches, people.

by goodymobb on Jun 28, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hope "first 3 in the lineup"

Isn’t saying Pujols has struggled against lefties unless .297 .441 .743 counts

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Jun 28, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the cure--take 27 cardinals

and call me in the morning

"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension

by sportsman on Jun 28, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yikes

Works for me today, but kinda a shame what Liriano is now, dude used to have three plus-plus pitches.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Jun 28, 2009 2:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Some good fish fries up dere in Minnesota

doncha know. Youbetcha.

Uff da!!

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by MilCardFan on Jun 28, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That was a pathetic half inning

Take the walk Pujols, you have someone behind you who can actually hit lefties.

by dcfcblues on Jun 28, 2009 2:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He forgot.

"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Jun 28, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

"That's just hard baseball"

Bert is trying to say that Molina and the Cardinals need to get over that slide yesterday because it was just hard baseball. That’s why Cuddeyar is starting in RF, because Gardenhire thought we’d try to take him out at 2B.

Hey Bert, newsflash. Taking out retribution on the 2B for being a douche and sliding with his knee up is GOOD HARD BASEBALL.

It cuts both ways.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Jun 28, 2009 2:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That's new to the Twins then.

Cuddyer hasn’t played middle MIF or 3B since 2005. His days of 2B are over…the guy is just way to big to play up the middle. He might be able to transition back to 3B if they needed him to, but no way he plays 2B ever again.

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by mtzxc on Jun 28, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You got the number...

I know a guy in the radio booth, but I don’t know anyone in the TV booth…

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by mtzxc on Jun 28, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cuddyer looked like he took the worst of the hit

They replayed it and it looked brutal on him. He slammed his head against home plate.

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by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 28, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

what

there was an error, a basehit to right for mauer and a hr

by prophetjohn on Jun 28, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kinda early

Can’t jump all over him yet

by Midwestside on Jun 28, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

his problem

is he’s not keeping the ball down

by prophetjohn on Jun 28, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Which is the bad kind of

pitch to contact. If you aren’t keeping the ball down and not striking anyone out, things go horrible wrong.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Jun 28, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

not being able to locate

is a problem whether you pitch to contact or not.

by prophetjohn on Jun 28, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pitching to contact is all about "random outcomes"

Pitchers can control if the batter hits the ball or not. Pitching to contact is about letting them hit the ball and hoping somoene catches it. They do about 70% of the time, but that doesn’t mean you won’t get a pile of that 30% outcomes in a row in any given inning.

by DriverZn on Jun 28, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

exactly

one ball on the ground that’s made it through

and the ball to derosa was hardly on the warning track

by prophetjohn on Jun 28, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jesus Joel

he’s giving you an out….

by goodymobb on Jun 28, 2009 2:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer

by jd is legend on Jun 28, 2009 2:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ok, MDR up to bat

He’ll hit a grand slam with the bases empty. I swear!

by cloistermaximus on Jun 28, 2009 2:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Since when...

does somebody named jonathan spector and clint dempsey put it in the net against Brazil.

The world isn’t making sense these days

by guayzimi on Jun 28, 2009 2:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i think spector was briefly at Man United

didn’t stay long though. He was playing for someone else at a high level in england, though. He’s a good player.

Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.

by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

DERO! DERO! DERO!!!! WOOOOOO!!!!

Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.

by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 2:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I love Mo

I wonder if he’s ever gotten excited about anything.

by Midwestside on Jun 28, 2009 2:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

apparently we're going up against

 the LH version of good Joel Piniero.

And jesus Ludwick, can you please take a pitch?

Yuck Yuck Yuck. This is a very familiar start to a game vs. a crappy LH starter.

by goodymobb on Jun 28, 2009 2:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Liriano isn't crappy

he’s having a rough year but the guy was once one of the best young starters in the game.

by dcfcblues on Jun 28, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I get that he WAS once one of the best starters in the game.

Then he got hurt (had TJ surgery if I’m not mistaken) and has struggled mightily with command.

by goodymobb on Jun 28, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah he's sucked since surgery

he’s lost velocity AND movement on all his pitches, changed his arsenal, and walks a load more, too. He’s not the same pitcher anymore. He’ll still probably shut us down, though…

Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.

by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yep....

4 runs to overcome now? With the approach we have had thus far, where we’ve seen a whopping 22 pitches over 2 innings, Liriano is probably good for 7-plus today.

I have no data on this, but it just seems like everytime I’ve seen the Cards go up against a lefty, they have this “hack away” approach. Even thinking back to the CLE game where they made Cliff Lee throw a bunch of pitches in the 1st (I think he walked 2 guys), they ended up just hacking at everything. I dunno if they approach pitchers differently based on LH or RH, but it seems like they are just wicked impatient against any and all lefties.

by goodymobb on Jun 28, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

one new signing...

but we still suck against LHP ;-)

Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.

by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 2:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ankiel didn't K

small victories?…

defy, cards, defy. hey logic --- you suck.

by effin fisk on Jun 28, 2009 2:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

for ankiel, maybe

he’ll K with runners on base for sure though

by hangingfromatree on Jun 28, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, that was classic.

Glad someone else heard it.

defy, cards, defy. hey logic --- you suck.

by effin fisk on Jun 28, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

because

no one cares about soccer

by prophetjohn on Jun 28, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

what is soccer?

a bunch of guys kicking a ball around

by prophetjohn on Jun 28, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They're some plastic old timey trumpet things...

FIFA is thinking about banning them for the Cup next year… I for one hope they do.

by ducttape16 on Jun 28, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

except, like, most of the planet...

Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.

by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, but

who cares what the rest of the world thinks?

by prophetjohn on Jun 28, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You, George Bush,

my uncle in Festus, my dog….

by guayzimi on Jun 28, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Speaking of

A Coup d’état happened today in Honduras

Stat Whore

by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 28, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's what happens when the president goes against a Supreme Court ruling

"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer

by jd is legend on Jun 28, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

True

But his term wasn’t even up yet

Stat Whore

by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 28, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

its those damn plastic trumpets that these south africans have

if Pineiro keeps letting runners on, I’m gonna keep watching this soccer game.

Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.

by The_teague on Jun 28, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sigh

I miss Glaus

Stat Whore

by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 28, 2009 2:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If only we had traded for a 3B

And had a good defensive OF sitting around looking for a place to play in the OF.

by DriverZn on Jun 28, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But why do that when you can play

an IF in LF and Tony’s man crush in CF?

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by mtzxc on Jun 28, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

YAY!!!! 99.99

needed that after Mauer continued to improve his insane BABIP….

Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.

by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 2:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice throw

by T Greene.

"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Jun 28, 2009 2:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i guess today the sinker's finding the gaps off the bat

some days it works out getting the ball in play, some days it doesn’t….

Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.

by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 2:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You're right,

but Piniero has given up 5 hits already.

"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Jun 28, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hate errors and walks

Above everything else

Stat Whore

by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 28, 2009 2:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

At least the Cubs and Brewers are losing too

"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer

by jd is legend on Jun 28, 2009 2:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

that's right

he got wood on that one

but he didn’t jack a dong

by prophetjohn on Jun 28, 2009 3:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

2-0!!!!!!!!!!!

"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer

by jd is legend on Jun 28, 2009 3:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

F^#@ Yeah!

Yes, I am a proud to be a Hyperventilating Prospect Geek.

by mtzxc on Jun 28, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LaRue tried to

Mustache that one out of here

Stat Whore

by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 28, 2009 3:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

GGGGOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLL

Yes, I am a proud to be a Hyperventilating Prospect Geek.

by mtzxc on Jun 28, 2009 3:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

2-0 GOOOOOOAL

USA

Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.

by The_teague on Jun 28, 2009 3:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Mothereffer

I turn the channel for a sec to check out the Cardinals game, and that happens.

by dcfcblues on Jun 28, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I decided I'm not turning back

once I realized Pinata clocked in today.

by ducttape16 on Jun 28, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Same...

and its a lefty on the other side we’re facing so yeah…

Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.

by The_teague on Jun 28, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

god

what has liriano thrown, like 20 pitches?

by prophetjohn on Jun 28, 2009 3:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

doh

4B - beer baseball bands blog
history tells us again and again how GOB points out the folly of man

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 28, 2009 3:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs