Game 77 Open Thread -- June 28, 2009
by chuckb on Jun 28, 2009 2:00 PM EDT
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Minnesota Twins at St. Louis Cardinals, Jun 28, 2009 2:15 PM EDT
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| Liriano | Pineiro |
| 4.75 FIP | 2.96 FIP |
There's really not much to add about Pineiro from what I said the other day except that he's been tremendous at home and just ok on the road. A .575 OPS against is what Joel sports. This could be a 1-0 game.
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I'm getting the Twins feed so I'm sure
I’ll miss the gushing from KSDK
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 28, 2009 2:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They just interviewed DeRosa
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 28, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What!
You mean you don’t enjoy Jay Randolph’s hallucinations? You saying you wouldn’t confuse a pop-up on the infield with a 450-foot bomb from time to time? Ha!
V, b.
by LukeMP1186 on Jun 28, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm getting the Twins feed on EI too
is the video quality as horrible for you as it is for me? Everything white is blown out – and everything else super blurry?
by TNTinCO on Jun 28, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, same here
I was just about to post that.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 28, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's actually giving me a headache trying to focus
How can it actually be that bad? Are all of their cameras settings just automated for playing indoors?
by TNTinCO on Jun 28, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It isn't the cameras
this is a local feed from their MyTV channel My29.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 28, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
DeRosa will hit a HR and take a curtain call today
Calling it
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 28, 2009 2:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm eating sherbet
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history tells us again and again how GOB points out the folly of man
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 28, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
orange/lime/raspberry
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history tells us again and again how GOB points out the folly of man
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 28, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm calling a torn hamstring
going for a ball in the corner, out 6-8 months.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 28, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ouch
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history tells us again and again how GOB points out the folly of man
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 28, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pulls knife out of the sheath
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 28, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll help you dump the body...
V, b.
by LukeMP1186 on Jun 28, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no need to dump it
we just need to find a pig farm
by dcfcblues on Jun 28, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Evil minds
Think Alike
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 28, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's cool
I have pigs
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 28, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BOOO torn hamstring prediction
HOORAY beer!!
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by MilCardFan on Jun 28, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
seems like chuck has been mailing it in lately
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 28, 2009 2:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The KSDK is just one big bag of suck
Jay Randolph and Frank Cusumano are awful.
by dcfcblues on Jun 28, 2009 2:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I like Frank
He just said if Pineiro just played the Met’s he would be a HOFer
I laughed
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 28, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He also, annoyingly,
kept calling the Mets “the Metropolitans.”
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Jun 28, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
kinda like
the tampa bay team is the devil rays?
by prophetjohn on Jun 28, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
No
They are actually just the Rays
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 28, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And the Dodgers
were the Trolley Dodgers?
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by MilCardFan on Jun 28, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kinda
the Mets were the Metropolitans in the 1880s, then were renamed that when they came back into the league in the 1960s but legal issues had the name shortened to Mets.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 28, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So they're no longer
the Metropolitans, just like the Reds are no longer the Redlegs.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Jun 28, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know.
But he just kept saying it.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Jun 28, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Quit saying that"
is my favorite saying.
"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah
by Alxfritz on Jun 28, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Me too!
It’s basically all I say to my husband.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Jun 28, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shut it, you.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Jun 28, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so
any news on the cardinal front?
just an average sunday in cardinal nation?
i say we keep 10 run sundays alive
by prophetjohn on Jun 28, 2009 2:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
DeRosa's debut with the Cards and the Confederations Cup final
Great afternoon of sports.
by dcfcblues on Jun 28, 2009 2:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey, I hear DeRosa will sport #7
That’s a serious number, plus one…
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by MilCardFan on Jun 28, 2009 2:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It's the fingers on your hand, plus yo thumba and yo index finga
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 28, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ther's a lot of numbers, it's true...
I’m shutting up now
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by MilCardFan on Jun 28, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like
a double schocker
"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah
by Alxfritz on Jun 28, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's pretty much the President Casino commercial of this year
I hated it at first but it’s so bad I’ve learned to love it. But the Casino one I had already learned to love from hockey season so half this baseball season has been wasted commercial wise.
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Jun 28, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
When you come down to the President Casino
You’re gonna have some fun…
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by MilCardFan on Jun 28, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hopefully he'll bring us some good luck
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 28, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A couple of hits off a lefty will suffice for me
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by MilCardFan on Jun 28, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the choir's here
somebody start preaching
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 28, 2009 2:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow, this kids group singing the Nat Anthem is harsh
I mean, they’re kids and all, but DAMN.
by cloistermaximus on Jun 28, 2009 2:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Todd Wellemeyer
/shows self out
Albert Pujols is ridiculous.
by stlhulsey on Jun 28, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
reply fail
Albert Pujols is ridiculous.
by stlhulsey on Jun 28, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Q: What other ex-cubbies except Brock have done well as a cardinal?
I stood where no man goes...
by Desert_Rat on Jun 28, 2009 2:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hes a suiter
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Jun 28, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
DeRosa's a Dapper Dan man.
defy, cards, defy. hey logic --- you suck.
by effin fisk on Jun 28, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looks like Pineiro
is in a tight spot.
Those Pilgrims ain't lookin' so proud now...
by giveml on Jun 28, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you kidding me?
Bruce Sutter was decent, for one…
by guayzimi on Jun 28, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry for the snottiness...
I forget not everyone is as ancient as me…
by guayzimi on Jun 28, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A: Lee Smith
and Bruce Sutter off the top of my head.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Jun 28, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oooh, good one. I totally forgot he was with CHC.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Jun 28, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
keep em sinking low in the zone, joel
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 28, 2009 2:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Tyler Greene
is no Brendan Ryan.
That’s an automatic out with Boog.
by dcfcblues on Jun 28, 2009 2:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Put DeRosa at short!!
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by MilCardFan on Jun 28, 2009 2:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That would put Mini Dunc in left...
That would not be an even worse option.
by ducttape16 on Jun 28, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, he can play both, damn it
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by MilCardFan on Jun 28, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ank in left, Ras in CF
Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.
by The_teague on Jun 28, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
TLR is afraid to put Colby in against LHP... he'd go with Mini Dunc.
by ducttape16 on Jun 28, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
At least Rasmus takes healthy cuts against LHP
Dunc looks fooled hitting all lefties…he’ll get a gift pitch every now and again
Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.
by The_teague on Jun 28, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Raz seems to do well vs "power" pitchers.
RHP / LHP seems to matter less than Finesse vs Power.
by DriverZn on Jun 28, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
here's the prerequisite bitching about not having Rasmus in the lineup
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 28, 2009 2:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
to be fair
he’s hitting lefties worse than anyone on the team
by prophetjohn on Jun 28, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here's my signature and approval of this post.
Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.
by The_teague on Jun 28, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
recovering from
a cortisone shot in the wrist
by prophetjohn on Jun 28, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'd imagine that hurts like a mofo
an injection into your wrist, can not feel good.
by dcfcblues on Jun 28, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It would definately affect the vidya game playing
by ducttape16 on Jun 28, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He has to switch hands too
Feels like a whole different person
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 28, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the stranger
no wait…that’s when you numb the hand
by dcfcblues on Jun 28, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cortisone shots hurt like hell for a day or two
regardless of where they’re injected.
At least I thought so
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by MilCardFan on Jun 28, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My husband
was in immense pain after both his.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Jun 28, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But after the "damnation fire burn" feeling goes away
My shoulder felt great for about 6 months
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by MilCardFan on Jun 28, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
His got way worse.
Surgery followed.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Jun 28, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I'm heading that way I think
It wore off. Yuck
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by MilCardFan on Jun 28, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, wrist
Been buggin him since high school
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by MilCardFan on Jun 28, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow T. Greene...
that was terribly played….you looked like Jr. High SS right there….
Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.
by The_teague on Jun 28, 2009 2:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
what's the over/under
on how many times Ankiel K’s against Liriano today?
by hangingfromatree on Jun 28, 2009 2:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If Liriano throws off peed
Over/under is 4
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by MilCardFan on Jun 28, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Off speed...speed
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by MilCardFan on Jun 28, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
.5 strikeouts...
Liriano won’t make it through our right-handed murderer’s row twice.
by guayzimi on Jun 28, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
K Greene
looking very good at third.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Jun 28, 2009 2:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I hate to disagree with Whitey
But Tyler Greene does not excite me as a major leaguer in any facet of the game.
by Midwestside on Jun 28, 2009 2:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
he's got a great glove
but i still think he’ll struggle to be a replacement-level hitter.
Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wouldn't say "great"
maybe above average. his bat does suck.
by hangingfromatree on Jun 28, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great glove
Great speed
Developed body
Good bad
Poor patience
He’s going to have a better career than Brendan Ryan.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 28, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i knew what you meant - was just kidding.
I also have poor patience, fwiw
by TNTinCO on Jun 28, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hey guys
first game I’ve watched live in ages!
can we please, please, not see joe thurston on this team any more. At all.
Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 2:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
One would hope MDR would alleviate some of that
by cloistermaximus on Jun 28, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
i’m so pumped by that acquisition! Gonna have a franklin tonight for the DeRo pickup – exactly what we need vs LHP I think.
Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Derosa
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 28, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd once again like to thank the Twins for taking Mauer over Prior
It would’ve sucked if the Cubs drafted Mauer.
by dcfcblues on Jun 28, 2009 2:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So would Twins fans
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by MilCardFan on Jun 28, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
this cannot be reiterated enough
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 28, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also
Prior wouldn’t have cratered if he’d been a Twin. Karma, you know.
by StanTheManFan on Jun 28, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah he would've
The GOB’s would’ve frowned on the Twins not taking the home town guy who wanted to play for them.
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by MilCardFan on Jun 28, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not to disrespect an entire country
But to disrespect an entire country, Brazil’s national anthem is not very awe inspiring. Just about the opposite.
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Jun 28, 2009 2:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That's kinda odd coming from an American though
Our national anthem is incredibly hard to sing. “America, the Beautiful” should be our anthem.
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 28, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not the words, the actual melody
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Jun 28, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Need a DP here fellas
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 28, 2009 2:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
so yeah
this mauer guy is pretty good
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 28, 2009 2:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Lets go Cardinals...and Lets Go Team USA
no pressure on Team USA
I want a altiodore hattrick and a derosa homer today
DO IT!
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
by VolsnCards5 on Jun 28, 2009 2:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So not much discussion on the batting order
I see DeRosa as more of a #2 hitter, no?
I’d like to see a 2-5 of DeRo, Albert, Lud, and Raz basically everyday and figure out the rest from there.
Oh and no more Thurston.
by goodymobb on Jun 28, 2009 2:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
and this game instantly sucks.
time for soccer.
by dcfcblues on Jun 28, 2009 2:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ouch
Whatever LaRue said to Pineiro, it was the wrong thing
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 28, 2009 2:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
"Candlesticks always make a good gift"
by Midwestside on Jun 28, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We're dealing with a lot of shit here
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by MilCardFan on Jun 28, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
there's that HR/FB ratio coming crashing back to the mean...
Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 2:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
lets not overreact
he gave up a homerun to one of the top 5 hitters in the game.
by dcfcblues on Jun 28, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doesnt matter who is up at the plate....
they are hitting that pitch out….up and middle in, slow, no movement and sitting on a tee.
Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.
by The_teague on Jun 28, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
actually it does matter
bad hitters miss meatballs on occasion, good hitters don’t.
besides, one bad pitch doesn’t mean his HR/FB ratio are headed back to norms.
by dcfcblues on Jun 28, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not arguing his HR/FB ratio
I’m just saying that Major League don’t miss that pitch very often. That pitch is what you call a “watermelon”.
Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.
by The_teague on Jun 28, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Major League hitters*
Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.
by The_teague on Jun 28, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No it wasnt
It wasnt in the middle of the plate at all. It was tight inside.
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 28, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's where Albert
likes his HR Derby pitches.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Jun 28, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no, the law of averages does....
Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
eh
I think I’d disagree that Mourneau is one of the top 5… maybe top 10
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 28, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good location Pineiro
NOT….fuck.
Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.
by The_teague on Jun 28, 2009 2:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I guess this means
pinata showed up today… fun
by ducttape16 on Jun 28, 2009 2:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
and when it opened
it was full of candy
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
by sportsman on Jun 28, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm, surprised Jay Randolph
didn’t think that was a pop up to Albert as it came off his bat
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by MilCardFan on Jun 28, 2009 2:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
wow
could he have put that in a worse place? 90mph on the inside-centre of the plate, belt-high? Ermmmm…. Don’t do that against good left-handed hitters please.
Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 2:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking he needed to bust him inside
But a little further inside. Does Pineiro feature a cutter?
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 28, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only 2 of those runs were earned though!
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 28, 2009 2:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
umm yeah
but all three count
by hangingfromatree on Jun 28, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
Span is a speed merchant. He had no chance even if he picked it clean.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 28, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It would have been right to him if he just got a late break and didn't go the wrong way...
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Jun 28, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
He broke the wrong way on the ball, it definitely should have been an out.
by Midwestside on Jun 28, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
On MLB.com I run the video feed on Firefox and KTRS on Safari..
Works fine when you use the normal video mode on Firefox. The Highdef mode has way too much lagg…
I stood where no man goes...
by Desert_Rat on Jun 28, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
eh...
this is a new Cardinal team. We come back from 3-0 deficits now.
by guayzimi on Jun 28, 2009 2:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
any rumours yet on who might be on the DeRo ptbnl list?
Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 2:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I heard it was Albert Pujols and Colby Rasmus
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 28, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Fredbird and the Hamburglar
Just win
by The Duke on Jun 28, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jay Randolph and Al Hrabosky too please.
Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.
by The_teague on Jun 28, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
how is that even a choice?
it’s todd if that’s the case. Ugh. That would absolutely suck.
Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess it ties into whether we sign him to an extension or not...
if we do, they get the better player. If he is just a rental, they get the lower end guy.
Yes, I am a proud to be a Hyperventilating Prospect Geek.
by mtzxc on Jun 28, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm not interested in signing derosa to an extension especially
but giving up Todd along with Perez would be horrible. We need Todd in the pen next year. Samuel is kinda filler really, high upside but he hasn’t figured it all out yet, still v wild. Todd is pretty much MLB-ready. There’s worlds between them as prospects. I don’t see how they can be mentioned in the same sentence. I still think Todd could be a useful starter, too, if they want to make that reverse move…
Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's go Tribe
the Indians SBNation site seems to think they have two different options depending on whether the Cardinals make the playoffs or not. That doesn’t make sense to me as it has been reported that the choice must be made by 9/1. Now if we have clinched the Central by then I guess I will have no option but to be happy about the deal.
Those Pilgrims ain't lookin' so proud now...
by giveml on Jun 28, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some tool...
on foxsports.com said maybe Samuel or Todd. Ridiculous.
by guayzimi on Jun 28, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it'll probably be
todd of samuel
by hangingfromatree on Jun 28, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Todd of Samuel, sounds like an old English name...
“Why yes, I am Todd of Samuel and this is my cousin, Franklin of Motte”.
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by mtzxc on Jun 28, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
3 run deficit
vs. a lefty who’s been struggling? Hopefully DeRo can help our normal output against such pitchers.
by goodymobb on Jun 28, 2009 2:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
As a man who up to a couple weeks ago hated Pineiro
He has pitched extremely well this year, so let’s not turn on him so quickly.
by Midwestside on Jun 28, 2009 2:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree
I just looked at the pitch on Gameday, It was a solid pitch. Very inside pitch that he just turned on
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by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 28, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it was a meatball
to a left-hander. Awful pitch.
Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree
He pitched away away away away away away then a very inside pitch. Which could of easily been called a ball. It was not a meatball.
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by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 28, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was a meatball.
Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.
by The_teague on Jun 28, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it was well over the plate
<90mph and not moving much. Belt high.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no movement, right in Morneau's wheelhouse.
Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.
by The_teague on Jun 28, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Remember when Liriano and Santana
were the deadliest 1-2 combo in baseball a ciouple years back?
Wow, Liriano’s fallen off a cliff since TJ surgery.
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by MilCardFan on Jun 28, 2009 2:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah after one inning
he looks like the 2006 version.
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by MilCardFan on Jun 28, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well the first 3 in the lineup
have been there all year struggling against lefties…..
Man, this guy is gonna shut us down today. Take pitches, people.
by goodymobb on Jun 28, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope "first 3 in the lineup"
Isn’t saying Pujols has struggled against lefties unless .297 .441 .743 counts
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Jun 28, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He wasn't too bad last year
after getting demoted for money reasons.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 28, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the cure--take 27 cardinals
and call me in the morning
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
by sportsman on Jun 28, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are we ever going to have a better option at leadoff
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 28, 2009 2:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
DeRosa!!
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by MilCardFan on Jun 28, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yikes
Works for me today, but kinda a shame what Liriano is now, dude used to have three plus-plus pitches.
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Jun 28, 2009 2:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Some good fish fries up dere in Minnesota
doncha know. Youbetcha.
Uff da!!
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by MilCardFan on Jun 28, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was a pathetic half inning
Take the walk Pujols, you have someone behind you who can actually hit lefties.
by dcfcblues on Jun 28, 2009 2:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He forgot.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Jun 28, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"That's just hard baseball"
Bert is trying to say that Molina and the Cardinals need to get over that slide yesterday because it was just hard baseball. That’s why Cuddeyar is starting in RF, because Gardenhire thought we’d try to take him out at 2B.
Hey Bert, newsflash. Taking out retribution on the 2B for being a douche and sliding with his knee up is GOOD HARD BASEBALL.
It cuts both ways.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 28, 2009 2:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hasn't Cuddyer been in RF this whole series?
by Midwestside on Jun 28, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was supposed to play 2B today.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 28, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's new to the Twins then.
Cuddyer hasn’t played middle MIF or 3B since 2005. His days of 2B are over…the guy is just way to big to play up the middle. He might be able to transition back to 3B if they needed him to, but no way he plays 2B ever again.
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by mtzxc on Jun 28, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then you call the booth
and tell them.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 28, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You got the number...
I know a guy in the radio booth, but I don’t know anyone in the TV booth…
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by mtzxc on Jun 28, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Call the Twins radio booth
and ask for the phone number to the TV booth.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 28, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Baseball-Reference confirms it
2nded
by Midwestside on Jun 28, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cuddyer looked like he took the worst of the hit
They replayed it and it looked brutal on him. He slammed his head against home plate.
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 28, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Outcome vs Intent
changes nothing.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 28, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If the Mets game was when pitch to contact goes horribly right
This would be the other side.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 28, 2009 2:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
what
there was an error, a basehit to right for mauer and a hr
by prophetjohn on Jun 28, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And a single up the middle
and a flyball to the warning track.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 28, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kinda early
Can’t jump all over him yet
by Midwestside on Jun 28, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not jumping all over him
I’m just saying he’s not getting the atom ball today.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 28, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
his problem
is he’s not keeping the ball down
by prophetjohn on Jun 28, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which is the bad kind of
pitch to contact. If you aren’t keeping the ball down and not striking anyone out, things go horrible wrong.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 28, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
not being able to locate
is a problem whether you pitch to contact or not.
by prophetjohn on Jun 28, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still have no idea what you two are talking about.
by Midwestside on Jun 28, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like...
They hit the ball at our fielders?
by Midwestside on Jun 28, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A ball hit right 'at 'em'
as in the ball was struck by the bat and it’s path was directly in line with the fielder of which didn’t have to move and could play it fairly easily.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 28, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pitching to contact is all about "random outcomes"
Pitchers can control if the batter hits the ball or not. Pitching to contact is about letting them hit the ball and hoping somoene catches it. They do about 70% of the time, but that doesn’t mean you won’t get a pile of that 30% outcomes in a row in any given inning.
by DriverZn on Jun 28, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
exactly
one ball on the ground that’s made it through
and the ball to derosa was hardly on the warning track
by prophetjohn on Jun 28, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 28, 2009 2:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Comin to save the motherf'n day yeaaaaah
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Jun 28, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok, MDR up to bat
He’ll hit a grand slam with the bases empty. I swear!
by cloistermaximus on Jun 28, 2009 2:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Since when...
does somebody named jonathan spector and clint dempsey put it in the net against Brazil.
The world isn’t making sense these days
by guayzimi on Jun 28, 2009 2:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i think spector was briefly at Man United
didn’t stay long though. He was playing for someone else at a high level in england, though. He’s a good player.
Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
DERO! DERO! DERO!!!! WOOOOOO!!!!
Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 2:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I love Mo
I wonder if he’s ever gotten excited about anything.
by Midwestside on Jun 28, 2009 2:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
apparently we're going up against
the LH version of good Joel Piniero.
And jesus Ludwick, can you please take a pitch?
Yuck Yuck Yuck. This is a very familiar start to a game vs. a crappy LH starter.
by goodymobb on Jun 28, 2009 2:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Liriano isn't crappy
he’s having a rough year but the guy was once one of the best young starters in the game.
by dcfcblues on Jun 28, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I get that he WAS once one of the best starters in the game.
Then he got hurt (had TJ surgery if I’m not mistaken) and has struggled mightily with command.
by goodymobb on Jun 28, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah he's sucked since surgery
he’s lost velocity AND movement on all his pitches, changed his arsenal, and walks a load more, too. He’s not the same pitcher anymore. He’ll still probably shut us down, though…
Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yep....
4 runs to overcome now? With the approach we have had thus far, where we’ve seen a whopping 22 pitches over 2 innings, Liriano is probably good for 7-plus today.
I have no data on this, but it just seems like everytime I’ve seen the Cards go up against a lefty, they have this “hack away” approach. Even thinking back to the CLE game where they made Cliff Lee throw a bunch of pitches in the 1st (I think he walked 2 guys), they ended up just hacking at everything. I dunno if they approach pitchers differently based on LH or RH, but it seems like they are just wicked impatient against any and all lefties.
by goodymobb on Jun 28, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
one new signing...
but we still suck against LHP ;-)
Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 2:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ankiel didn't K
small victories?…
defy, cards, defy. hey logic --- you suck.
by effin fisk on Jun 28, 2009 2:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
for ankiel, maybe
he’ll K with runners on base for sure though
by hangingfromatree on Jun 28, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Greene is turning to brown?
I love Moonman
by Midwestside on Jun 28, 2009 2:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that was classic.
Glad someone else heard it.
defy, cards, defy. hey logic --- you suck.
by effin fisk on Jun 28, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why is there a bee swarm near the microphone on the soccer game?
Just win
by The Duke on Jun 28, 2009 2:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
because
no one cares about soccer
by prophetjohn on Jun 28, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what is soccer?
a bunch of guys kicking a ball around
by prophetjohn on Jun 28, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They're some plastic old timey trumpet things...
FIFA is thinking about banning them for the Cup next year… I for one hope they do.
by ducttape16 on Jun 28, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've watched more of this tournament that I probably should have
I’ve been able to block it out mostly.
by ducttape16 on Jun 28, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
except, like, most of the planet...
Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
except you know....the entire world out outside of the US
by dcfcblues on Jun 28, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, but
who cares what the rest of the world thinks?
by prophetjohn on Jun 28, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You, George Bush,
my uncle in Festus, my dog….
by guayzimi on Jun 28, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of
A Coup d’état happened today in Honduras
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 28, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's what happens when the president goes against a Supreme Court ruling
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 28, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
True
But his term wasn’t even up yet
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 28, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
its those damn plastic trumpets that these south africans have
if Pineiro keeps letting runners on, I’m gonna keep watching this soccer game.
Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.
by The_teague on Jun 28, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If only we had traded for a 3B
And had a good defensive OF sitting around looking for a place to play in the OF.
by DriverZn on Jun 28, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But why do that when you can play
an IF in LF and Tony’s man crush in CF?
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by mtzxc on Jun 28, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
YAY!!!! 99.99
needed that after Mauer continued to improve his insane BABIP….
Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 2:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That was a good piece of hitting
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 28, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice throw
by T Greene.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Jun 28, 2009 2:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i guess today the sinker's finding the gaps off the bat
some days it works out getting the ball in play, some days it doesn’t….
Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 2:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It is working but our team defense isn't
Should be onyl 2-0
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by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 28, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
2-0 is plenty with a lefty pitching, sadly...
Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're right,
but Piniero has given up 5 hits already.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Jun 28, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hate errors and walks
Above everything else
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 28, 2009 2:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
At least the Cubs and Brewers are losing too
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 28, 2009 2:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
that's right
he got wood on that one
but he didn’t jack a dong
by prophetjohn on Jun 28, 2009 3:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
2-0!!!!!!!!!!!
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 28, 2009 3:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
AMMEERRICCAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Jun 28, 2009 3:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
F^#@ Yeah!
Yes, I am a proud to be a Hyperventilating Prospect Geek.
by mtzxc on Jun 28, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LaRue tried to
Mustache that one out of here
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 28, 2009 3:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
GGGGOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLL
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by mtzxc on Jun 28, 2009 3:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
2-0 GOOOOOOAL
USA
Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.
by The_teague on Jun 28, 2009 3:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Mothereffer
I turn the channel for a sec to check out the Cardinals game, and that happens.
by dcfcblues on Jun 28, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I decided I'm not turning back
once I realized Pinata clocked in today.
by ducttape16 on Jun 28, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Same...
and its a lefty on the other side we’re facing so yeah…
Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.
by The_teague on Jun 28, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That Joel at-bat was fast
felt like he struck out on one pitch
by TNTinCO on Jun 28, 2009 3:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I didnt even see him hit
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 28, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
god
what has liriano thrown, like 20 pitches?
by prophetjohn on Jun 28, 2009 3:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
was 22 at the top of this inning
he’s mowing us down
by goodymobb on Jun 28, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
doh
4B - beer baseball bands blog
history tells us again and again how GOB points out the folly of man
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 28, 2009 3:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
heh
4B - beer baseball bands blog
history tells us again and again how GOB points out the folly of man
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 28, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
god
cannot escape futbol
4B - beer baseball bands blog
history tells us again and again how GOB points out the folly of man
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 28, 2009 3:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm of the opinion...
that the Cardinals could trot out 8 – .800 OPS right handed hitters against a lefty and still fail miserably.
by RiverRat on Jun 28, 2009 3:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
first time through
and this team still sucks
by prophetjohn on Jun 28, 2009 3:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Liriano with a perfect game
That handsome devil!
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 28, 2009 3:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
white sox beating cubbies
4B - beer baseball bands blog
history tells us again and again how GOB points out the folly of man
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 28, 2009 3:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Giants beating the Brewers too.
Yes, I am a proud to be a Hyperventilating Prospect Geek.
by mtzxc on Jun 28, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think I figured out the lefty problem.
It’s the curse of Rick Ankiel.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Jun 28, 2009 3:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Are you a pitcher with an ERA over 5 looking to lower it to 4?
Try facing the Cardinals lineup. Shave a full point off your ERA, and if you are left handed, pick up a no-hitter!
by cloistermaximus on Jun 28, 2009 3:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If USA wins...
biggest win in USA National Team history?
by dcfcblues on Jun 28, 2009 3:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Definitely
First time to ever win a FIFA tournament
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 28, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hell yes
and its not even close
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
by VolsnCards5 on Jun 28, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Until we win the World Cup next year :)
by dcfcblues on Jun 28, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
jesus here we go again...
I’m not a soccer guy, so I apologize in advance for my skepticism.
It just seems like every year USA soccer tries to spoon feed soccer to the US and it never really catches on.
Every year, this guy or that guy or this goalie or this coach or whatever is gonna make US soccer relevant on an international-level. However, I maintain that until your main guy isn’t some 5’6’’ balding dude (Donovan), you’re probably gonna get schooled by the countries whose best athletes grow up playing this sport (and not football, basketball, or baseball instead).
I’ve tried and tried to like soccer; I love sports in general and a few of my good friends are die-hard soccer guys. I just can’t get into it, no matter what I do.
by goodymobb on Jun 28, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A lot of great athletates in the USA play soccer
But none continue to play. I played select soccer till HIgh School till Football took over
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 28, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So, are you saying
That you have to have some hunk of man-meat to ogle before you can like soccer? Because Donovan has serious skills, despite his looks. Also, the US has NEVER gotten into a championship game, and their on the verge of winning an International Championship. Easily the best USA has ever done.
That said, I played soccer most of my life, and I rarely watch it. It is kind of boring to watch. Never noticed cuz I was always playing it.
by Midwestside on Jun 28, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also
International Soccer is the most corrupt sport in existence. The NBA had a ref influencing regular season games. A German ref admitted he was fixing games during the World Cup, the highest level of play for International Soccer. Disturbing to think about.
by Midwestside on Jun 28, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
On the refs note
How is it that NBA players manage to constantly, constantly complain to the refs while still looking manly but when soccer players complain they look about 10x bitchier.
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Jun 28, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because
They fall on the ground, obviously faking it, every time they’re touched. It’s embarrassing.
by Midwestside on Jun 28, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
they look 10x bitchier just playing their sport, IMO.
Constantly falling down, taking dives, etc.
I dunno….I just don’t get the appeal.
by goodymobb on Jun 28, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ha...
No, no man-meat necessary.
I’m saying that compared to the big-dog countries/teams, the US doesn’t really field big, strong athletes. I remember trying to get into the last World Cup (or maybe the previous one) and England, Germany, et al. had just huge players out there. Those dudes were probably like the best athletes in their respective schools, etc. and they kept into soccer. Like Flim said above, those same dudes in the US (i.e., the best athletes) play other stuff.
My opinion is that until our best athletes focus solely on soccer (and until there’s a reason to do so), we’ll always be playing catch-up. And until the MEN’S US is wicked-good at soccer on a consistent basis, it will always be a fringe sport here.
by goodymobb on Jun 28, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
By the way,
Landon Donovan is SEXY.
That is all.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Jun 28, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
although i think there was a big win against england in the 60s ...
by hangingfromatree on Jun 28, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
1950
nice win but not even close to this
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
by VolsnCards5 on Jun 28, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know nothing about soccer
But wasn’t the Spain win to get to the final the biggest win for the National Team before this?
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Jun 28, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You could argue that it was
but many people would say the 1-0 win against England some 50 years ago was the biggest.
by dcfcblues on Jun 28, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't even care if we lose now
USA UP 2-0!!!!!
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
by VolsnCards5 on Jun 28, 2009 3:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Definitely would rather the Cards lose and USA win than vice versa
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 28, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That sounds like Cubs talk to me
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 28, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
One game in a 162-game season vs. the final of a FIFA tournament?
No way
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 28, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
When we miss the playoff's by one game
I am blaming you
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 28, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
By all means
Let Joe Thurston and Todd Wellemeyer off the hook
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 28, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 28, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah forget that
But as long as the Cards are going to look like a blue gill flopping all over the bottom of a boat the USA winning can tide me over.
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Jun 28, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BASEBALL
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history tells us again and again how GOB points out the folly of man
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 28, 2009 3:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I just feel like the Cardinals are staying in the range of +3 to +8 games above .500
All season. I won’t think we are a playoff contender till we are 10_ games up
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 28, 2009 3:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
we were 10 games up
when we were 17-7. were we contenders then?
by hangingfromatree on Jun 28, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
even in the amazing NL Central?
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 28, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Makes me long for the days of 2004-05
when we got 20, 30, 40+ games over .500
"Fortune favors the bold!" - Virgil
by player2bnamedl8r on Jun 28, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think
he needs to bring his obp up a bit
by prophetjohn on Jun 28, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can soccer goalies stand on their head
or does that only work for hockey?
by ducttape16 on Jun 28, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can we trade Thurston for him?
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by mtzxc on Jun 28, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Liriano is half the pitcher he was
He has seriously altered his delivery to protect the elbow. Dollar on a dime says he will break out the slider again before payday arrives. Not having had a chance to read the thread I will say that Albert’s at bat was a cheap way to greet you new partner.
by OperaCard on Jun 28, 2009 3:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Umm he's throwing a slider
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Jun 28, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That thing isn't his slider
His slider was like a frizz. Broke 3 feet. With his elbow bent this much he can’t do it. Santana has shown him the logic in self preservation.
by OperaCard on Jun 28, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
His slider was 90 mph it wasn't a frisbee, he's just lost the depth on it
And “with his elbow bent this much”? I have no idea what that means.
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Jun 28, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I will let you work with
integrating what is implied by some your own comments. See if you can find some film, that can help.
by OperaCard on Jun 28, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh boy
I’m not a mechanics idiot, I literally have never heard “elbow too bent” in any relation to the ability to throw a breaking ball. In his arm action? At release?
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Jun 28, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Joker
There is a correlation between the forward velocity of the pitch and arm speed with wrist extension. The tension in the slider grip effects the wrist function to a lesser degree than the attempt to spin the ball with curve grip, which is why it goes faster. Santana and Liriano extended the envelope (Randy Johnson) by pitching almost straight armed at about a three quarter angle. This increased the velocity dramatically but unfortunately, communicated all of the rotational forces to the elbow. A devastating pitch to try and hit but unfortunately has you shaking hands with Thomas Johns far to soon.
by OperaCard on Jun 28, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Walk Schu Walk Schu Walk Schu Walk Schu
by dcfcblues on Jun 28, 2009 3:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
nah
worthless: thy name is Khalil
by Oedipa Maas on Jun 28, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
K Greene's swing
starting to look long again
by TNTinCO on Jun 28, 2009 3:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No hitter, no hitter no hitter no hitter no hitter no hitter
Liriano has a no hitter, perfect game, !!!!!
by dcfcblues on Jun 28, 2009 3:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What a way to introduce your new trade acquisition to the team
Watch your new team get no-hit
by cloistermaximus on Jun 28, 2009 3:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
"Can I go back to Cleveland?"
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 28, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Perfect game gone
now let’s get rid of the no-hitter
by TNTinCO on Jun 28, 2009 3:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
DeRosa is officially a bust if he doesn't hit a homerun here, right?
by dcfcblues on Jun 28, 2009 3:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I love that they bat him cleanup behind Albert in his first game
Not a bad welcoming committee
defy, cards, defy. hey logic --- you suck.
by effin fisk on Jun 28, 2009 3:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I know
I made a comment about this above, but it didn’t get any traction.
I see DeRo as an ideal 2 hitter. Pencil him in front of Albert, write Ludwick into the 4 hole, then Raz and figure out the rest as needed.
If they got DeRosa and were thinking of him as a cleanup hitter, I like this deal a lot less.
by goodymobb on Jun 28, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey guys, just got back to technology...
…anything happen on the trade market? ;)
/chitown
by vexedtechie on Jun 28, 2009 3:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We traded J.D. Drew?
/Chitown x2
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 28, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
heh
I had the nextdef hd on
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 28, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who's this Lou Brock guy?
-Chitown
by ducttape16 on Jun 28, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
perhaps I will change my moniker
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 28, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't worry...
we’ll just wait for you to do it again and pounce.
by ducttape16 on Jun 28, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hey
when I did that we scored a shitload of runs, so don’t diss it
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 28, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Please don't
I think I like you all the more for that game.
Plus how many people get turned into a verb? Chitown’d is now in the vernacular here.
by TNTinCO on Jun 28, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
heh
ok
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 28, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I give you my personal "Good Word Of The Day" award
…for exemplary use of “vernacular.”
by vexedtechie on Jun 28, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it was very commendable
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 28, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
derosa is the worst trade even
his cardinal average is .000
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
by VolsnCards5 on Jun 28, 2009 3:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Seems about average for the team vs Lirano
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 28, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not OBP...
..Albert’s killin @ .500!
by vexedtechie on Jun 28, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And he has every LOB
Bum
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 28, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the season is 10 games away from being halfway over
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 28, 2009 3:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Throws Gatorade machine
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 28, 2009 3:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
rec'd.
Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looked pretty good throwing it across the diamond...
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Jun 28, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Errors
working their way around the field. 6, then 5, now 4.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Jun 28, 2009 3:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Why do Sunday games
Get switched over to these shmendriks? I can’t take that Frank guy at all, and the most excited this play-by-play guy has gotten was the 3-run homer by the Twins. I miss Dan and Al constantly agreeing with each other while sounding like they’re arguing.
by Midwestside on Jun 28, 2009 3:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I just listen to the radio
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 28, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
After what I heard yesterday
I say we bring Whitey in for the Sunday games…
by ducttape16 on Jun 28, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
time to open a franklin
in honour of our new 3B/LF/whatever…. Twisted Thistle IPA today.
Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 3:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Liriano? really?
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 28, 2009 3:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Shutout is next
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 28, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Luddy!
XBH that isn’t a HR.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Jun 28, 2009 3:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
we didn't get DeRo just to be no hit
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
by gdm426 on Jun 28, 2009 3:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ludwick to Goodymobb:
“Eff you and your take a pitch strategy!”
Stand-up double.
by goodymobb on Jun 28, 2009 3:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The ball didn't get over the fence...
WHAT DO I DO?!?
by dcfcblues on Jun 28, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no hitter gone
and Luddy hammers that 1st pitch
by TNTinCO on Jun 28, 2009 3:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hmm
I turn back over from the soccer and good things start happening… I like it.
by ducttape16 on Jun 28, 2009 3:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The GOB really didn't like the fact
that liriano was afraid to pitch to pujols…
- "I went at it and didn’t slow down, so it kind of bounced off me." -Lil' Dunc
by SleepyCA on Jun 28, 2009 3:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Especially with a perfect game in the balance (through 3.2, but still)
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 28, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
YAY ANK!!!
Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 3:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
2 pitches 2 doubles???
Who are you and what have you done with Lud and Ank?
by RiverRat on Jun 28, 2009 3:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Porn stache
Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.
by The_teague on Jun 28, 2009 3:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Whoa
DeRosa is the bum OF today. Go figure.
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 28, 2009 3:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm nervous about that trade
It’s not a blatent rip-off like the Mulder fiasco, but Shapiro is a sharp guy.
by Midwestside on Jun 28, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
YAY PORNSTACHE!!!
Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 3:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
he grew it overnight
he’s that kind of man
by TNTinCO on Jun 28, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He started growing
it back right away.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Jun 28, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hmmm I haven't shaved for a couple days...
maybe I should grow my own LaRue stache…
by ducttape16 on Jun 28, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You sound confident
That’s a hard stache to fill in. It’s like saying you could grow a Billy Mays beard…. RIP….
by Midwestside on Jun 28, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I generally have a beard...
got too hot for the summer, so a stache should be easy by comparison.
by ducttape16 on Jun 28, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have a beard
But I have no illusions of coming close to LaRue or Billy Mays, in really any aspect of life.
by Midwestside on Jun 28, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did anyone kind of wish
That Ankiel had a chance to smash into Mauer?
by Midwestside on Jun 28, 2009 3:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I like mauer.
so no.
Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only if it meant that Ankiel would be out for a while and Rasmus would play.
Yes, I am a proud to be a Hyperventilating Prospect Geek.
by mtzxc on Jun 28, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where is your bloodlust?
Didn’t you see what they did to our Yadi?
by Midwestside on Jun 28, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So do you bunt here?
And how did LaRue not take 2nd on the throw?
by goodymobb on Jun 28, 2009 3:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How can you be slower
than the slowest man in the world?
by Midwestside on Jun 28, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Be another Molina.
It’s the only way.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Jun 28, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still like the comment
by someone else’s announcer (can’t recall who)
“He ran hard, but he didn’t run fast. He runs like he’s mad at the ground.”
by TNTinCO on Jun 28, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I actually laughed out loud
That is great
by Midwestside on Jun 28, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i change my prescription
from 27 cardinals to 12
perhaps not as serious as it looked
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
by sportsman on Jun 28, 2009 3:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
crappy
bunt technique
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
by sportsman on Jun 28, 2009 3:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
pin should hit....
Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 3:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
good job joel
looked for a while like he was gonna screw that up…
Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 3:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
greene to k i guess....
Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 3:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Unreal that he's only thrown 6 pitches (so far)
in the 5th here.
That includes 3 straight hits, plus a sac bunt. By far his most efficient inning and yet here we are, picking up runs.
by goodymobb on Jun 28, 2009 3:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
how is that an efficient inning?
only one out.
by hangingfromatree on Jun 28, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're supposed...
to get outs with your pitches. Not have ’em knocked to the wall.
by guayzimi on Jun 28, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Milwaukee and Cubbies losing
come on Cards, score some more!
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 28, 2009 3:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't have faith in the Giants holding that league
with some unknown rookie named Ryan Sadowski on the hill.
by dcfcblues on Jun 28, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
holding the league?
last i checked the dodgers held that league
by hangingfromatree on Jun 28, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
walkoff GS by my boy DeRosa
i’m calling it…
Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the hack at the 1st pitch strategy
didn’t work for skip there.
Oh well, plugging away.
by goodymobb on Jun 28, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
woulda been nice, schu!
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 28, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
where was his patented
Skip headfirst into first slide?
by goodymobb on Jun 28, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You hear about the Cardinal Prospect
Tyler Henley that slide through a guys legs to try to get to first base and not get tagged(failed epically)
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 28, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does that mean
our farm system teaches sliding into 1st?
by ducttape16 on Jun 28, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it was Horton
on the postgame recently (maybe yesterday?) saying how there have been studies that suggest that sliding into first is FASTER than running through it.
I always thought it was the other way around.
by goodymobb on Jun 28, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
this may sound dumb
and i realize that part of it is the position of the ball in play… but if you’re really faster when running… why do guys dive for balls (particularly in the outfield)?
I’m not saying I buy into the diving into first. Just asking a question about a semi-parallel situation.
by TNTinCO on Jun 28, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because you can't kick it
You have to get your glove down.
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Jun 28, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would think that sliding THROUGH first
would maybe be faster. I wonder if you would have to maintain contact with the bag if you slide through and past first base.
by Midwestside on Jun 28, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I doubt it
The problem with sliding is you slow up your strides 2-3 steps before you actually slide, watch him slide in slow mo. He’s changing his running a solid 20 feet before the base.
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Jun 28, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i know his glove is money
but jeez, greene sucks with the bat….
Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 3:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thurston and Tyler on the chopping block now that DeRo was pulled in...
They know their job is in question with Ryan hitting near .300 and K. Greene earning too much money to not play.
Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.
by The_teague on Jun 28, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Problem is that Thurston hits lefties better than righties
Which is not going to last
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 28, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I gotta get rid of Thurston
but it will be Tyler who goes, mark it down.
No idea whatsoever what Thurston brings to the table right now, other than our quota of boneheaded baserunning plays.
by goodymobb on Jun 28, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like Thurston
I just think he got over exposed
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 28, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If that means...
plays too much, then I agree.
by guayzimi on Jun 28, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like the scouting report got out
to simply throw to whatever base he happens to be on and get the pickoff?
by goodymobb on Jun 28, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like thurston
but I think I’d keep Greene’s glove instead. We could use one less LHB too….
Ultimately, however, I’d be happier just to see us sticking with a 12 pitchers from now on.
Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would've agreed with you
until Thurston got picked off twice in one week. I think those lack of fundamentals might be the things that drive Tony crazy.
defy, cards, defy. hey logic --- you suck.
by effin fisk on Jun 28, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn, Brazil scored. 2-1 USA.
Yes, I am a proud to be a Hyperventilating Prospect Geek.
by mtzxc on Jun 28, 2009 3:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They'll go into a shell...
and sweat out the last 30 minutes. Just like that Portugal game a few years ago.
by guayzimi on Jun 28, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
brazil will cut us up if we do that
we need to press some
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
by VolsnCards5 on Jun 28, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I must say
it’s cool to see you guys getting so into the soccer. I think the USA could be one of the top 5-10 teams in the world very soon.
Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Will be ranked in the top 10 for sure
If we beat Brazil, maybe around #5 or #6?
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 28, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hmmm i meant in "real" terms
the actual rankings kinda suck. They’re not representative. USA is no way in the top 5 or 6 teams in the world. But getting v close to the top 10 I think – perhaps even cracking it now. I reckon the only teams you can say for sure are better (on paper) would be Brazil (despite the current score ;-D), Argentina, and the top 5 or 6 in Europe.
Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, we're in STL.
With the SLU soccer team being one of the best in the nation and WPS right across the river, it’s hard not to get involved in soccer around here.
Yes, I am a proud to be a Hyperventilating Prospect Geek.
by mtzxc on Jun 28, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Soccer is pretty popular in STL.
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 28, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Soccer rankings...
make about as much sense as the Elias rankings. How is it calculated?
by guayzimi on Jun 28, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think they take something like the last 4 years of results
(i.e. the world cup/international competition “cycle”) and weight it more towards recent results. But it’s only based on competitive fixtures, so teams like the USA and Mexico and the better North African and Asian teams have an advantage by playing against weaker opposition so racking up the wins. Obviously, the quality of opposition is taken into account but I don’t think it’s done enough really.
Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jason Kubel is wearing on me
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 28, 2009 3:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I miss Brendan Ryan.
Really not a Tyler Greene fan at the moment.
by fuegophil on Jun 28, 2009 3:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I miss Matty Mo.
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by mtzxc on Jun 28, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I miss Bob Gibson
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 28, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's really ozzie smith i miss.
since we’re being wistful. but edgar was fun.
by hangingfromatree on Jun 28, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
McGee too
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 28, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They just replayed...
game 6 of the 1986 NLCS. That Keith Hernandez was one slick son of a gun with the glove. Like Pujols minus about 30 pounds. Wow…
by guayzimi on Jun 28, 2009 3:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
and plus one key of coke... but details.
by ducttape16 on Jun 28, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that whole mets team, really
the coke, i mean.
by hangingfromatree on Jun 28, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That whole team was a rough bunch...
Mookie, Straw, Hernandez… Dykstra and his “vitamins”… Backman…
But, man, Hernandez had some sick range. He looked like a cat over there. I’m sure the tight pants helped.
by guayzimi on Jun 28, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i really
hate jay randolph
how does he have a job?
by prophetjohn on Jun 28, 2009 3:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ksdk
has to fill their quota of uneducated snoozefest announcers?
by prophetjohn on Jun 28, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hernandez was probably slicker
with the glove. and the ’stache.
by hangingfromatree on Jun 28, 2009 3:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ok K. Greene does not need to be hitting in front of Albert...ever.
Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.
by The_teague on Jun 28, 2009 3:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We really don't have anyone on this team with a decent OBP
Well I guess DeRosa does
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 28, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah that's terrible use of the guy....
i guess it’s the whole “he’ll get pitches to hit” thing. But please. DeRo at #2 vs LHP from now on….
Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
khalil
fuck that was an awful AB….
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by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 3:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
funny how Bert apologized for that
considering he did the same last year in the booth
geesh Albert
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
by gdm426 on Jun 28, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We will always have KC
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 28, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
unfortunately, no, we won't always have KC
but if we could play them all year, man-oh-man what a great record we’d have
by hangingfromatree on Jun 28, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's an awful player.
makes sense he has awful ab’s
by hangingfromatree on Jun 28, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
great idea batting KG second
4B - beer baseball bands blog
history tells us again and again how GOB points out the folly of man
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 28, 2009 3:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
we sucked the ability to hit leftes right outta DeRo
damnit
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
by gdm426 on Jun 28, 2009 3:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Is it just me?
Or every single DeRosa AB been the same? Hard hit to the 3B?
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 28, 2009 3:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Kinda the whole team...
at least the righties. Liriano looks like he’s throwing lots of off-speed junk and everyone is out in front of it.
And Albert looked really bad in his last AB too. Liriano looked absolutely nasty that half.
by goodymobb on Jun 28, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
That was a goal
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 28, 2009 3:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
did mlb.tv
take a shit on anyone else?
by prophetjohn on Jun 28, 2009 3:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
After two months
of near perfection, mlb.tv has been really shitty for me the last couple of weeks.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Jun 28, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ditto
4B - beer baseball bands blog
history tells us again and again how GOB points out the folly of man
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 28, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love the announcer justifying the call
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Jun 28, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm watching the british feed
they were unconvinced either way
by dugmartsch on Jun 28, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
bbc? I might put it on the tv...
Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
awesome i got it on now
i think it’s gonna be slow tho with mlb.tv on too!
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by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
also - has to be TOTALLY over the line
i.e. the whole of the ball, not sure if that makes any difference…
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by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In soccer, winning is everything.
I don’t care if we get some blown calls as long as we win today.
Yes, I am a proud to be a Hyperventilating Prospect Geek.
by mtzxc on Jun 28, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
can I get highlights on the internet anywhere?
who was in the brazil team?
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by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
link
atdhe . n e t
figure it out please done ban me.
by dugmartsch on Jun 28, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
nah it's on tv here
bbc3, i got it on the tv
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by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i thought is was in the cardinals' game thread...
by prophetjohn on Jun 28, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
just ignore the soccer comments
… they’ll go away if you do
by hangingfromatree on Jun 28, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So what do you think about the qualifying match between the US and Mexico coming up?
by ducttape16 on Jun 28, 2009 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think the USA are stronger
but other than that I have limited opinion :-)
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by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nothing chaps the Mexicans' asses quite like getting beat by the USA in soccer
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 28, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dont' know...
Montezuma’s revenge may chap it a bit worse.
by ducttape16 on Jun 28, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow
Okay, so apparently this is ANOTHER thing I don’t like about soccer.
So you score maybe 4 goals, total, in the entire 90 minutes. Goals are at such a premium in this sport. The ball is pretty huge and it’s kind of a rarity that it even comes close to scoring, yet somehow you can look at that play and say that it WASN’T a goal?
How? How does this happen?
by goodymobb on Jun 28, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you could say that about any sport involving a ball
by dugmartsch on Jun 28, 2009 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sure
but the relative hugeness of the ball, coupled with how scoring apparently isn’t a good thing (kidding, but I think you’d admit that there are fewer scoring plays, relatively speaking), makes it hard to believe you can actually “miss” when it’s actually a goal.
And I guess you could also ask why there’s no review of the play? Given the importance put on even one single goal, wouldn’t you want to get the call right even moreso than making sure the shooter was behind the 3 pt line, for example?
by goodymobb on Jun 28, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
kinda gotta agree really...
Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sox still 3-0 up vs little bears
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by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 3:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
danks just got out of a bases-loaded jam...
- "I went at it and didn’t slow down, so it kind of bounced off me." -Lil' Dunc
by SleepyCA on Jun 28, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
got the USA match up on the tv...
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by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 3:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Watching it on BBC?
Be glad. I hate our soccer announcers.
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 28, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what's with the fly balls Pinata?
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
by gdm426 on Jun 28, 2009 3:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Woah...
a post actually about the Cardinals game, not soccer.
by DiscoJer on Jun 28, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What did he get the card for there?
by ducttape16 on Jun 28, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
abusing the referee
unusually enough in this game…. Great save by Howard. He’s a fantastic GK.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah...
sounds like my idea to get a set of cards for the office… if people piss me off give them a yellow card… if they really piss me off give them a red and tell them they can’t talk to me the rest of today or tomorrow.
by ducttape16 on Jun 28, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
but the USA
are a terrible team. this will end 4 or 5 to 2
they just cannot play with a lead.
by dugmartsch on Jun 28, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'll refrain from voicing my views on that sport
i got my ass chewed out when i said i didn’t like mj the other day, so i’ll just keep quiet this time
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
by gdm426 on Jun 28, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pinata sucks again
i tired to tell you people not to believe this clown could keep it up
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
by gdm426 on Jun 28, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not a Pinata believer
But one bad start is far from evidence…
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Jun 28, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
dunno if you're being sarcastic?
he’s pitched OK. No walks. Only one dinger. Errors cost at least 2 runs. That Greene play in the last inning cost a run. He could’ve got through 7 IP with 2 runs with stellar defence.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
half sarcastic yes
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
by gdm426 on Jun 28, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly...
Tyler Greene hasn’t done him any favors at SS.
by goodymobb on Jun 28, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You being serious?
This was a decent outing. 6.2 IP in just 82 pitches. Only 2 ER today. Didn’t walk anyone.
This was not at all a bad outing from Jo-El.
by goodymobb on Jun 28, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
When you don't strike anyone out or walk anyone you can be servicable.
And look good on days where the defense is great and look terrible when balls are leaking though.
He is a average pitcher that has been lucky so far this year.
by DriverZn on Jun 28, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Somewhere paint is drying, too...
Doesn’t mean anyone would want to watch it (much less watch it and post about it on a blog devoted to the baseball Cardinals…)
by DiscoJer on Jun 28, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
does sbnation have a soccer blog?
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
by gdm426 on Jun 28, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
honestly I wish the mods would hand out warnings for abuse of the site.
by DriverZn on Jun 28, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
totally disagree
we talk about 90 other things per thread other than the game.
I’m not a soccer fan but I can scroll past comments with this fancy invention called the mouse.
by nota bene on Jun 28, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with nota
if this place is like a sports bar – both games would be on the TV – and you can tune into the conversation you care about.
by TNTinCO on Jun 28, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, if they don't talk soccer, how can we make fun of them?
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
by gdm426 on Jun 28, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shit
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 28, 2009 4:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
someone out on the bases and it's NOT thurston????
wtf???
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by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 4:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ugh ugly goal
we’re on for penalties :-)
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by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 4:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
2-2 Brazil tied it up
Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.
by The_teague on Jun 28, 2009 4:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
terrible miss by robinho wow
they were lucky there that fabiano reacted…
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by Felonius_Monk on Jun 28, 2009 4:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs