Cards acquire DeRosa!!!!

by Ted Glover on Jun 27, 2009 11:04 PM EDT

Just heard on BBTN and MLB Network that the Cards acquire Mark DeRosa from the Indians for Chris Perez and a player to be named later!!!!

This is GREAT news, and depending on who the player to be named later is, phenomenal trade for the Cards as the first shot across the bow is made in 2009!!

I think Perez has a great future, but between Motte and Perez, I like Motte better and one of them was expendable. Anyone think Matt holiday is just around the corner as well?

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Finally.

V, b.

by LukeMP1186 on Jun 27, 2009 11:06 PM EDT reply actions

WooooooooooooHooooooooooooo!!!!!

by husker4cards on Jun 27, 2009 11:07 PM EDT reply actions

A very solid trade

with the questions surrounding Perez’s velocity and command. I still think he’s got the potential to be a solid closer but he’s better off in another organization.

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by azruavatar on Jun 27, 2009 11:09 PM EDT reply actions

Az, I really value your opinion on players...

Is Motte and Perez essentially a push in talent (I think it was), so it was a ‘6 of one, half dozen of the other’ type scenario when discussing a trade, and what’s your gut tell you the PTBNL is?

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by Ted Glover on Jun 27, 2009 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions

Perez still has more upside than Motte.

I just don’t ever see Motte being more than a fastball guy. His slider (after 2+ years) still blows. It’s a terrible pitch.

Perez has two really good pitches in his fastball and slider. He has little command of them but the pitches (movement, velocity, etc) are already there. So in the present I think Motte and Perez are comparable players. In the future, Perez still has more upside for me.

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by azruavatar on Jun 27, 2009 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions

And I have no idea on the PTBNL

They may be giving the Indians more time to scout low level players or to decide from a handful of C rated prospects. Until there’s more details, I don’t really have a clue. If the PTBNL winds up being one of the top 20 prospects, well, then we might have to slightly revise our opinion of the trade. Otherwise, I think this is one team trading to be better now and another team trading to be better next year.

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by azruavatar on Jun 27, 2009 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions

+1

With this trade we upgrade from replacement level to a 3-win player (over a full season) at 3B, where with the Holliday trade we wouldn’t even be certain to be upgrading over Ludwick IMO. Plus DeRosa can actually get on base, please please please bat him 2nd in front of Pujols Tony.

by mikedallas45 on Jun 27, 2009 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions

Can DeRosa make STL tomorrow?

And will tony play him vs righties?

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by ubeddie on Jun 27, 2009 11:10 PM EDT reply actions

Great Trade Mo!!!

We’ve got a long way to go and a short time to get there.

by KYCards on Jun 27, 2009 11:10 PM EDT reply actions

Unbelievable

I was loosing hope and then Mo pulls it off. Thank you Mo.

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by totalloser on Jun 27, 2009 11:10 PM EDT reply actions

really

this is a fantastic trade.

derosa for perez and what, a class a starter?

doesn’t get much better than that

by prophetjohn on Jun 27, 2009 11:14 PM EDT reply actions

so does anyone else think the holliday deal is dead?

by rlgosnell on Jun 27, 2009 11:15 PM EDT reply actions

Probably was leaked to help force this deal to happen

by Merry CRasmus on Jun 27, 2009 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions

Well, the rumor was Ludwick, McClellan/Perez/Motte and someone else

So with Perez traded to Cleveland, do you get rid of another young gun and Luddy for Holliday?

I wouldn’t. You’re essentially trading a pwer hitter for a power hitter and another young gun. It would be a bad trade for the Cards, IMHO.

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by Ted Glover on Jun 27, 2009 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions

i just dont like Holliday

he’s barely slugging 400.

by rlgosnell on Jun 27, 2009 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions

probably

and this was probably the more prudent deal

my guess is the indians were dragging their feet, so mo was like, “fine, what’s matt holliday up to?”

and then the indians unclenched their fists

by prophetjohn on Jun 27, 2009 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions

I approve

I believe DeRosa is a better fit for this club, this year, than any other team. I think we gain a decent amount from this in the short run. Of course we risk losing in the long run, but I think we have traded from surplus here. We have righthanded bullpen arms throughout the organization. Personally I think Perez has the most upside between him, Motte, and McClellan, but he also has to improve his control a great deal to get there. I wasn’t seeing the progress yet, but he may very well get there.

What pushes it over the top for me is that I think we should be able to offer him arb, and find plenty of AB’s for him next year if he ends up accepting.

by Merry CRasmus on Jun 27, 2009 11:17 PM EDT reply actions