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Game 76 Open Thread -- June 27, 2009

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Minnesota Twins at St. Louis Cardinals, Jun 27, 2009 1:10 PM EDT


 

Slowey Wellemeyer
3.92 FIP 4.84 FIP

I'm tired of writing about Wellemeyer so I'm not going to except to say that, w/ Lohse getting closer to returning, he's pitching for his spot in the rotation every time he takes the mound. Slowey's been tremendous so far this season. His K/9 is over 7 and his BB/9 is under 2 -- not that that matters w/ us since we don't know how to take walks anyway. He does have a 1.28 HR/9 so maybe we can hit some bombs and get Wellemeyer a few runs. Slowey throws fastballs 69% of the time and despite the fact that it averages less than 89 mph, he's 4.6 wRAA w/ it so far this season. The good news is that he's a fly ball righty w/ distinctive platoon splits. Lefties have hit him in his career to an .857 OPS -- more than .150 points higher than righties have so I'd expect to see Ludwick on the bench w/ the 3 lefties in the OF and, probably, Thurston at 3rd.

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Wellemeyer vs. the lineup...

with two of the best lefthanded bats in baseball.

Hopefully Jo-el can stave off the sweep tomorrow.

V, b.

by LukeMP1186 on Jun 27, 2009 12:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow, Mauer with a day off...

That’s a break…

TWINS

D. Span, CF
B. Harris, SS
J. Morneau, 1B
J. Kubel, LF
M. Cuddyer, RF
J. Crede, 3B
M. Redmond, C
M. Tolbert, 2B
K. Slowey, P

CARDS

S. Schumaker, 2B
C. Rasmus, CF
A. Pujols, 1B
C. Duncan, LF
Y. Molina, C
R. Ankiel, RF
T. Greene, SS
T. Wellemeyer, P
J. Thurston, 3B

V, b.

by LukeMP1186 on Jun 27, 2009 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Me too.

Especially when I have tickets. It’s the same dread as seeing Marquis pitch.

Luckily, I don’t have tickets today.

"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Jun 27, 2009 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ugh

I’m hungry, partially hungover, and now I find the Colonel is pitching… bad times.

by ducttape16 on Jun 27, 2009 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Try to not vomit.

"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Jun 27, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

OMFG

And I am at work.

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by spants on Jun 27, 2009 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I work at a bookstore.

I pretty much only work on Saturdays right now.

"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Jun 27, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's so freaking slow.

No one is leaving their homes. So I’m on VeB.

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by spants on Jun 27, 2009 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Eh...

I’m sure it’s not going to effect the outcome of the game.

"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Jun 27, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He'll be losing out on a lot of 5 run homers...

I’m firmly convinced only Mauer and Chuck Norris can pull that off.

by ducttape16 on Jun 27, 2009 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did everyone forget that it was a day game?

Or are they avoiding Wellemeyer?

"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Jun 27, 2009 1:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm assuming they have rational thoughts of

holy hell it’s hot… it would have to be a nite game if it’s not get away day…

by ducttape16 on Jun 27, 2009 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yahoo's comments about Ludwick

Slugging 1.176 in 17 ABs vs. pitchers like Slowey since last year.

by blahquaker on Jun 27, 2009 1:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

How many more...

crappy starts until Welley heads to the pen?

by guayzimi on Jun 27, 2009 1:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think the answer there

may lie in how many starts until Lohse comes back

by TNTinCO on Jun 27, 2009 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I say we put him in the pen now and just let him start too...

I don’t think the results could be that much worse.

by ducttape16 on Jun 27, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No one wants to bitch about pitch 5 to Kubel?

I’ll start, gameday says its a strike. We really don’t need Welly getting pinched today.

by ajo080s on Jun 27, 2009 1:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Whew!

two BBs but no runs

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by gocards62 on Jun 27, 2009 1:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well that didn't help Raz

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by gocards62 on Jun 27, 2009 1:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I hope Albert gets a hit here

because that is the only way we’ll get Skip home.

by dcfcblues on Jun 27, 2009 1:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Slowey is absolutely the worst possible name for a pitcher

I mean, wouldn’t it be better if his name was like “Fastey” or “Hardy” or something other than Slowey?

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by redbirdnation8206 on Jun 27, 2009 1:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes, I've thought something similar

He got hurt unfortunately.

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by redbirdnation8206 on Jun 27, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And know he's out, man.

"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on Jun 27, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Better

than Kevin Meatball.

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by spants on Jun 27, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It fits him too.

I actually did a fanpost comparing Motte and Balfour last winter, and Balfour’s struggled when he’s forgotten where the strikezone is. Which has been often.

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by redbirdnation8206 on Jun 27, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just start...

rotating Walters, Hawksworth, Boggs and kmac into the rotation. Have it be an open tryout. Stick Welley in the pen. If he starts pitching better, give him a chance to reclaim his spot.

by guayzimi on Jun 27, 2009 1:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

at least let them each pitch once through the order

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by gocards62 on Jun 27, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Come on Albert

When you take your walks you protect yourself!

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by redbirdnation8206 on Jun 27, 2009 1:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

waiting for THAT!!!

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by gocards62 on Jun 27, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

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by spants on Jun 27, 2009 1:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Or when you hit balls into the bullpen

That works too.

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by redbirdnation8206 on Jun 27, 2009 1:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I thought Kubel was going to rob it

with our luck lately, that would’ve been fitting.

by dcfcblues on Jun 27, 2009 1:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

hahahahaha Dan's a comedian.

If the Twins lose this game 2-0…. does he realize who’s pitching?

by ducttape16 on Jun 27, 2009 1:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

During his AB

I heard Bette Midler’s voice from the Seinfeld episode:

“Bring it in! Little shrimp here”

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by gocards62 on Jun 27, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

"if the twins lose it 2-0"

yeah fucking right

who’s pitching for the cards?

by prophetjohn on Jun 27, 2009 1:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Albert looks like he is clean shaven today!

I like that….A LOT

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by mattyfrommo on Jun 27, 2009 1:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That beard

was ruining him.

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by spants on Jun 27, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I saw that he shaved that thing too

good job albert! not to mention the HR

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 27, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He apparently shaved for the Christians...

I disagree though… I like the anti-Yankee everyone has facial hair style we are trying to run with.

by ducttape16 on Jun 27, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You did see that

beard, right? It was horrible.

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by spants on Jun 27, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have this theory

that Albert’s bat seems more likely to go BSI on days when he is completely clean shaven.

I am not anti-facial hair, even though my face seems to be.

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by mattyfrommo on Jun 27, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

mlb.tv

froze the video feed /sad face

when it came back though, Albert was rounding the bases! Hooray for replay!

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jun 27, 2009 1:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

great game so far

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 27, 2009 1:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

it's never a great game

with Wellemeyer on the mound

by dcfcblues on Jun 27, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

negative nancy

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 27, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

well it isn't with an attitude like that

Positive energy!

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by mattyfrommo on Jun 27, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Aaron Miles is ahead of Pujols in interleague BA

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 27, 2009 1:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hard to pitch

to someone that little.

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by spants on Jun 27, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol!

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 27, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No!

He must be stopped.

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by spants on Jun 27, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Once July...

rolls around we’ll have to clean out the dead weight on this roster. Thurston, Duncan, and Welley have to be the first to go.

by guayzimi on Jun 27, 2009 1:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

like that happens

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by mattyfrommo on Jun 27, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hell yes it can happen...

if the Astros can DFA that prick Backe, we can move some chairs around too….

by guayzimi on Jun 27, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can see one of them being released (Welley)

I see no way in hell that Thurston or Duncan are let go. If Duncan wasn’t cut last year, he aint gonna be this year.

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by mattyfrommo on Jun 27, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ah jeeeeeeez

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 27, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wellemeyer needs an out pitch

he gets 2 strikes on people and can’t put them away

by dcfcblues on Jun 27, 2009 1:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

'09 Welley = '07 K. Wells

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by gocards62 on Jun 27, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wellemeyer, these last two guys you let on....

absolutely suck….

Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.

by The_teague on Jun 27, 2009 1:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What a coincidence

so does Wellemeyer :P

by dcfcblues on Jun 27, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Battle of the Suck

Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.

by The_teague on Jun 27, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

is anyone else horrified

of that 6 Flags guy? he makes me NOT want to go there

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 27, 2009 1:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It's okay.

He’s not actually AT the park.

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by spants on Jun 27, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They went bankrupt...

but I think there still operating. Scary to think how they might cut costs.

by guayzimi on Jun 27, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah...

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 27, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not cutting costs

They already did that. They are actually very profitable right now. They just had a load of debt from previous management that they could not get rid of. Declaring bankruptcy allowed them to clear their debt. Going forward, they look good – their stock went up significantly after the bankruptcy filing.

by rthorat on Jun 27, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that has to be intimidateing

being an AL pitcher trying to put down a bunt with albert f. pujols charging at you at full speed

by prophetjohn on Jun 27, 2009 1:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

45 pitches thru 1 and 2/3? Jesus Wellemeyer

Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.

by The_teague on Jun 27, 2009 1:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

nah

his name is todd

by prophetjohn on Jun 27, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He can turn easy outs into runs

Like Jesus turns water into wine

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by The_teague on Jun 27, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Those are

youth baseball numbers!

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by spants on Jun 27, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's not nice to the little kids

to compare them to Wellemeyer…

by ducttape16 on Jun 27, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry kids!

I didn’t mean it.

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by spants on Jun 27, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He decided

if The Colonel isn’t trying he doesn’t have to either.

by ducttape16 on Jun 27, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

at least

we have lohse rehabbing on thursday

by prophetjohn on Jun 27, 2009 1:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Pull him, Tony

it’s time

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by gocards62 on Jun 27, 2009 1:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

frill

this is why we have a long man

by prophetjohn on Jun 27, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know if I want to watch someone's head explode.

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by spants on Jun 27, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm really just fishing

for an excuse to start drinking heavily this early in the day.

by ducttape16 on Jun 27, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you are never gonna start doing it right

until you stop looking for excuses

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by mattyfrommo on Jun 27, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

we are in a couple weeks

or at least it’s going to be like atrade where we don’t have to give anything up for a 15 game winnert

by prophetjohn on Jun 27, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wellemeyer + Dunc = Twins lead

Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.

by The_teague on Jun 27, 2009 1:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

a good effort????

he played that terribly

by dcfcblues on Jun 27, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he broke the wrong way

and he covered very little ground.

by dcfcblues on Jun 27, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, i heard dan, too

the video didn;‘t show that unless you’re watching a different game

by prophetjohn on Jun 27, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm watching the game

and that’s what happened. What game are you watching?

by dcfcblues on Jun 27, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It doesnt matter either way...

that was a weakly hit pop up that Ank, Lud, Ras would have been camping under…

Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.

by The_teague on Jun 27, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Either of those three

could have crab walked and still set up camp under the ball.

by ducttape16 on Jun 27, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's all about the offensive matchups

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by gocards62 on Jun 27, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes

he’s an awful fielder

i get the point. the camera switched to duncan right as he was running hard directly at the ball and timed his dive nicely but just came up short. oddly, when the ball was hit, the camera was on the batter, so i didn’t know what kind of jump he got until dan said so

by prophetjohn on Jun 27, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He broke back and then had to come in...

terrible read, terrible closing speed….He’s not an outfielder, he’s a Lumberjack on skates.

Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.

by The_teague on Jun 27, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah,

i heard dan say that, too after i posted that

by prophetjohn on Jun 27, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he had me for a sec

thought he was going to catch it… shoulda known better heh

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 27, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I really hate having Dunc in the outfield....

What did he cover on that bloop? 8 feet?

Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.

by The_teague on Jun 27, 2009 1:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh, if we had some speed in LF today

I think this would have been caught standing

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Jun 27, 2009 1:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Holliday can play a decent LF.

"Rasmus doesn't hit lefties. Instead he bashes them over the head with their own bleeding arm he just raced to the mound to rip off before the ball arrives to the plate. He then smashes that baseball with the pitchers bloody arm over the wall because he does not hit lefites he bashes them." Ted Lilly

by Red Blazer on Jun 27, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

gee

glad that duncan is in the of

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 27, 2009 1:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The organization

is not doing him any favors. They need to send him to Memphis until September.

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by spants on Jun 27, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Remember last time they sent him to Memphis?

Papa Dunc visibly pouted until he was brought back up

by dcfcblues on Jun 27, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's not what happened.

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by spants on Jun 27, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, it isn't.

Someone got hurt.

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by spants on Jun 27, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't say he got called back up because Papa Dunc was pouting

I said Papa Dunc was visibly upset the entire time Chris was in Memphis.

by dcfcblues on Jun 27, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It can read two different ways.

I took it one way, you meant another.

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by spants on Jun 27, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shut up!

j/k

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by spants on Jun 27, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Little help for those on GD

Welley’s busted that too

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by gocards62 on Jun 27, 2009 1:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Jebus.

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by spants on Jun 27, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Duncan is not the son of GOBs

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by mattyfrommo on Jun 27, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

in other news

wellemeyer still sucks

by rig99 on Jun 27, 2009 1:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

is he up to 100 pitches yet?

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by gocards62 on Jun 27, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dicky first pitch swinging...

I’m shocked SHOCKED to see that.

by ducttape16 on Jun 27, 2009 2:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Not all Dunc's fault...Wellemeyer walked easy batters and let a .200 hitter get a line drive base hit off of him

then the bloop

Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.

by The_teague on Jun 27, 2009 2:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Is that the downside

of pitching to contact?

by ducttape16 on Jun 27, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

walking two batters on 9 pitches

isn’t pitching to contact.

gonna need more franklins to get through this one.

by hoofhearted-pujols on Jun 27, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is a valid statement....

Again, this is the battle of the suck…who can suck more? Just wait til Dunc strands the bases loaded later in the game….

Yes I’m calling this….

Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.

by The_teague on Jun 27, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's really going out on a limb...

the real question is how he does it…

by ducttape16 on Jun 27, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would include Thurston as well

But he hasn’t made any blatant mistake today..yet

by riotmute on Jun 27, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

put your tongue in your mouth

or get off my lawn

whippersnappers…

by prophetjohn on Jun 27, 2009 2:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ugh.

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by spants on Jun 27, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

WTH

just happened?

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by spants on Jun 27, 2009 2:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

nevermind.

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by spants on Jun 27, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bring the fork, TLR

Welley’s done

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by gocards62 on Jun 27, 2009 2:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Did TLR just hand Wellemeyer his pink slip out there on the mound?

“Sorry Todd, you’re fired”

Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.

by The_teague on Jun 27, 2009 2:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

heh

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 27, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i wonder

what tlr said out there. looks like he was waiting for something before he made the call.

by dugmartsch on Jun 27, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey guys! I think I just figured something out!

Wellemeyer sucks!

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by jd is legend on Jun 27, 2009 2:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

man, being at the game today would be miserable

it’s 100 degrees out and wellemeyer was starting

by dcfcblues on Jun 27, 2009 2:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

ah! Beer!

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by gocards62 on Jun 27, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yadi is nails.

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by spants on Jun 27, 2009 2:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Kinney?

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 27, 2009 2:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

works for me!

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by gocards62 on Jun 27, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hahaha

Yadi punched him in the chest. This game could get interesting after all

by dcfcblues on Jun 27, 2009 2:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Dunno about punched

He fell on him with a closed fist. There would be some fisticuffs if he actually punched him. Yes I made this post entirely because I found an appropriate use for “fisticuffs”.

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by joker24 on Jun 27, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think he just fell on him with his elbow

but either way, Cuddyer just got messed up.

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by The_teague on Jun 27, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ok, maybe it wasn't a punch

but he definitely gave him a forearm to the chest after the play.

by dcfcblues on Jun 27, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did he

do this? Please?

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by jd is legend on Jun 27, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Molina standing over his prey

….stares at him to make sure he knows he’s a dead duck

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by The_teague on Jun 27, 2009 2:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This team needs a spark

Maybe that’s it

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by jd is legend on Jun 27, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Schumaker experiment looks better every day

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 27, 2009 2:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

stats mavens still don't like it

just replacement level at best

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by gocards62 on Jun 27, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah but his arm makes up for it

and he’ll continue to get better

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 27, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The exact opposite can be said

about the Wellemeyer experiment .

by ducttape16 on Jun 27, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Time to get outta that slump Colby!

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by jd is legend on Jun 27, 2009 2:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

almost

good contact, wrong part of the field.

by dcfcblues on Jun 27, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can Whitey just stay in the booth forever?

I promise i won’t miss AL

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by mattyfrommo on Jun 27, 2009 2:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

please

if whiteys in the booth i’ll take a wellemeyer start

by dugmartsch on Jun 27, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know what that means

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by mattyfrommo on Jun 27, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

but I am gonna read that as a please? as in agreement with me

rather than a please! as in not, because I can’t deal with the fact that someone would rather have AL

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by mattyfrommo on Jun 27, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

MangSMASH

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Jun 27, 2009 2:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ridiculous

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by jd is legend on Jun 27, 2009 2:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

There's no suspense any more

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by gocards62 on Jun 27, 2009 2:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Clean Shaven Albert

is ridiculous

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by mattyfrommo on Jun 27, 2009 2:22 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I'm saying!

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by spants on Jun 27, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hahahaha

this dude is our entire offense

by mattyp on Jun 27, 2009 2:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Same formula as 1st inning

BANG

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by The_teague on Jun 27, 2009 2:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

nope

we have a pitcher now

by BirdsonFire on Jun 27, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And now Chris Duncan will weakly pop out, ground out, or strike out swinging

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by jd is legend on Jun 27, 2009 2:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Haha

Really going out on a limb there arent you?

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by The_teague on Jun 27, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

EDIT: or bloop a hit into left center

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by The_teague on Jun 27, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Still sounds like a weap popup to me

Just found a hole (insert joke about Chris Duncan finding holes) (insert joke about insert)

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by jd is legend on Jun 27, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chris Duncan couldnt find a hole even if you pointed one out and drew him a map?

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by The_teague on Jun 27, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Unless said hole is on the WS trophy

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by jd is legend on Jun 27, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

Rec'd

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by gocards62 on Jun 27, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tell me what you see Whitey...

ball coming in…. vapor trails….

by ducttape16 on Jun 27, 2009 2:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

oh hell yeah

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 27, 2009 2:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

keep it going, boys!

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by gocards62 on Jun 27, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Take. A. Pitch.

Ank

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by gocards62 on Jun 27, 2009 2:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Come on Rick

Defy the odds and get a hit here

by dcfcblues on Jun 27, 2009 2:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

nice work dunc and yadi

now do your job ank

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 27, 2009 2:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

dumb strategy

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by gocards62 on Jun 27, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Walking the pitcher to get to the pitcher who hits before the pitcher....

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by The_teague on Jun 27, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

this is what happens

with interleague play when you dont have time to actually watch any of the games that your opposing team has played.

by dugmartsch on Jun 27, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll take a single

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by gocards62 on Jun 27, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

OMFG

They just IBB’d Rick Ankiel

/head explodes

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by jd is legend on Jun 27, 2009 2:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

he's gotta get his walks somehow

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 27, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

C'mon Greene

Just get us to the thumba

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by jd is legend on Jun 27, 2009 2:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

serious number, T Greene

c’mon

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by gocards62 on Jun 27, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

is he okay?

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by gocards62 on Jun 27, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

We’ll take it.

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by The_teague on Jun 27, 2009 2:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Tyler Greene

is hard as nails. Wow.

by DanUpBaby on Jun 27, 2009 2:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You gotta pinch hit for Kinney here

This is a critical point in the game. You have an 8-man bullpen. Use it.

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by jd is legend on Jun 27, 2009 2:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wait

We’re letting Kinney hit in a 2 run game with the bases loaded WHEN WE HAVE A 13 MAN BULLPEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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by joker24 on Jun 27, 2009 2:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

pitching staff*

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Jun 27, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

brilliant managing, there

 but you can’t argue with a HOF manager

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by gocards62 on Jun 27, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

sure you can

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by mattyfrommo on Jun 27, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I absolutely disagree with TLR on that one

100%. Bad call. Now watch Kinney go out and give up like 4 runs.

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by jd is legend on Jun 27, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yup

another chance to use this bullpen configuration and he plays it like it’s 12 man again.

by DanUpBaby on Jun 27, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can't take this crap

We have a starter on the team, there will never ever be a more fitting opportunity for the 13th man. This is the only reason to carry 13 pitchers, and then the time comes and we don’t fucking use him. Oh and Kinney has been awful this year so taking him out of the game isn’t the worst thing anyway.

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by joker24 on Jun 27, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

just unbelievable.

Kinney better go 3 scoreless innings.

- "I went at it and didn’t slow down, so it kind of bounced off me." -Lil' Dunc

by SleepyCA on Jun 27, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And we don't know.....

Maybe Hawk isn’t available today. Didn’t he pitch > 2 innings just two days ago? He isn’t a bullpen guy.

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by SoonerfanTU on Jun 27, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

3 days ago.

- "I went at it and didn’t slow down, so it kind of bounced off me." -Lil' Dunc

by SleepyCA on Jun 27, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Still.

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by SoonerfanTU on Jun 27, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good answer

"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer

by jd is legend on Jun 27, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

if he can't pitch more than 2 innings every 4 days

he shouldn’t be in the major leagues.

- "I went at it and didn’t slow down, so it kind of bounced off me." -Lil' Dunc

by SleepyCA on Jun 27, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

wait?

are you saying that if you bring up a guy to be the longman, and he isn’t being used or is incapable of being used as said longman, then he is wasting a roster spot?

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by mattyfrommo on Jun 27, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Inconceivable!

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by jd is legend on Jun 27, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

1st career AB for Kinney???

Mark Worrell this ball, Josh

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by gocards62 on Jun 27, 2009 2:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Kinney swings at first pitch, fouls it off....

spends the next 10 seconds frantically looking around to find out where he hit the ball..

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by The_teague on Jun 27, 2009 2:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Comic relief.

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by spants on Jun 27, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Because you touch yourself at night

/Family Guy

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by jd is legend on Jun 27, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i work nights

so i do that during the day, thank you

by rig99 on Jun 27, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lulz

"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer

by jd is legend on Jun 27, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Because we don't have a bench?

Ryan can’t hit. You can’t use LaRue. And you don’t want to waste Luddy, do you?

That leave K. Greene as the only option?

Say you were standing with one foot in the oven and one foot in an ice bucket. According to the percentage people, you should be perfectly comfortable." - Manager Bobby Bragan

by SoonerfanTU on Jun 27, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh my Lord

When you stick up for TLR on that decision, well, I can’t help you.

This once again proves the fallacy of having an 8-man pen. We’ve got enough guys to cover 7 innings, but when one of them comes up to bat, we can’t bat for him because “the bench is too small”? ARGH!

"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer

by jd is legend on Jun 27, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

waste luddy?

i would think bases loaded is the perfect time to use him, especially when you have a starter in the bullpen

by rig99 on Jun 27, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

With two outs in the 3rd?

LOL

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by SoonerfanTU on Jun 27, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What does the inning have anything to do with anything

When are you going to have a better chance to score runs?

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by joker24 on Jun 27, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We'll have plenty of chances.....

If we were down, or tied, or there were less than two outs, I’d agree.

But we were up, TWO runs, and there WERE two outs. Pinch Luddy, and he K’s or flies out, and be better hope to God we don’t need a pinch hitter later.

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by SoonerfanTU on Jun 27, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who cares if we need a pinch hitter later

There will never be a game situation that will require a pinch hitter more than bases loaded 2 outs. If we score right there, we likely will never be close enough to ever need a pinch hitter again.

There’s just no possible way to justify punting a bases loaded situation. Zero. Just stop, that was horrible.

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by joker24 on Jun 27, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

you sacrfice now for later

long time baseball tradition

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by mattyfrommo on Jun 27, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs