Game 76 Open Thread -- June 27, 2009
by chuckb on Jun 27, 2009 12:45 PM EDT
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Wellemeyer vs. the lineup...
with two of the best lefthanded bats in baseball.
Hopefully Jo-el can stave off the sweep tomorrow.
V, b.
Wow, Mauer with a day off...
That’s a break…
TWINS
D. Span, CF
B. Harris, SS
J. Morneau, 1B
J. Kubel, LF
M. Cuddyer, RF
J. Crede, 3B
M. Redmond, C
M. Tolbert, 2B
K. Slowey, P
CARDS
S. Schumaker, 2B
C. Rasmus, CF
A. Pujols, 1B
C. Duncan, LF
Y. Molina, C
R. Ankiel, RF
T. Greene, SS
T. Wellemeyer, P
J. Thurston, 3B
V, b.
Me too.
Especially when I have tickets. It’s the same dread as seeing Marquis pitch.
Luckily, I don’t have tickets today.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
Try to not vomit.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
Ive been drunk...but not this drunk [NSFW]
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 27, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
OMFG
And I am at work.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
I work at a bookstore.
I pretty much only work on Saturdays right now.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
It's so freaking slow.
No one is leaving their homes. So I’m on VeB.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
I can't imagine why people wouldn't want to get out in this lovely weather...
Although it was beautiful last nite where I live.
Eh...
I’m sure it’s not going to effect the outcome of the game.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
He'll be losing out on a lot of 5 run homers...
I’m firmly convinced only Mauer and Chuck Norris can pull that off.
Did everyone forget that it was a day game?
Or are they avoiding Wellemeyer?
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
I'm assuming they have rational thoughts of
holy hell it’s hot… it would have to be a nite game if it’s not get away day…
I say we put him in the pen now and just let him start too...
I don’t think the results could be that much worse.
No one wants to bitch about pitch 5 to Kubel?
I’ll start, gameday says its a strike. We really don’t need Welly getting pinched today.
Whew!
two BBs but no runs
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Well that didn't help Raz
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Slowey is absolutely the worst possible name for a pitcher
I mean, wouldn’t it be better if his name was like “Fastey” or “Hardy” or something other than Slowey?
VivaElBirdos...Scoring less, but more frequently since approximately 1903.
by redbirdnation8206 on Jun 27, 2009 1:34 PM EDT reply actions
Yes, I've thought something similar
He got hurt unfortunately.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jun 27, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
And know he's out, man.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
It fits him too.
I actually did a fanpost comparing Motte and Balfour last winter, and Balfour’s struggled when he’s forgotten where the strikezone is. Which has been often.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jun 27, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Just start...
rotating Walters, Hawksworth, Boggs and kmac into the rotation. Have it be an open tryout. Stick Welley in the pen. If he starts pitching better, give him a chance to reclaim his spot.
at least let them each pitch once through the order
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Come on Albert
When you take your walks you protect yourself!
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jun 27, 2009 1:36 PM EDT reply actions
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
Or when you hit balls into the bullpen
That works too.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jun 27, 2009 1:36 PM EDT reply actions
During his AB
I heard Bette Midler’s voice from the Seinfeld episode:
“Bring it in! Little shrimp here”
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Albert looks like he is clean shaven today!
I like that….A LOT
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That beard
was ruining him.
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I saw that he shaved that thing too
good job albert! not to mention the HR
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 27, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
He apparently shaved for the Christians...
I disagree though… I like the anti-Yankee everyone has facial hair style we are trying to run with.
You did see that
beard, right? It was horrible.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
I have this theory
that Albert’s bat seems more likely to go BSI on days when he is completely clean shaven.
I am not anti-facial hair, even though my face seems to be.
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mlb.tv
froze the video feed /sad face
when it came back though, Albert was rounding the bases! Hooray for replay!
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
great game so far
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 27, 2009 1:42 PM EDT reply actions
negative nancy
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 27, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
well it isn't with an attitude like that
Positive energy!
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Aaron Miles is ahead of Pujols in interleague BA
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 27, 2009 1:44 PM EDT reply actions
I still think Apu is ahead of him in life though.
by ducttape16 on Jun 27, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
for some reason Miles always does well in interleague play
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 27, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
gotta beat the southside at all costs
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 27, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Hard to pitch
to someone that little.
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lol!
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 27, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Once July...
rolls around we’ll have to clean out the dead weight on this roster. Thurston, Duncan, and Welley have to be the first to go.
Hell yes it can happen...
if the Astros can DFA that prick Backe, we can move some chairs around too….
I can see one of them being released (Welley)
I see no way in hell that Thurston or Duncan are let go. If Duncan wasn’t cut last year, he aint gonna be this year.
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ah jeeeeeeez
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 27, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
'09 Welley = '07 K. Wells
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Wellemeyer, these last two guys you let on....
absolutely suck….
Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.
is anyone else horrified
of that 6 Flags guy? he makes me NOT want to go there
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 27, 2009 1:47 PM EDT reply actions
It's okay.
He’s not actually AT the park.
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worst ad campaign I've seen I think
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 27, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah...
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 27, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Not cutting costs
They already did that. They are actually very profitable right now. They just had a load of debt from previous management that they could not get rid of. Declaring bankruptcy allowed them to clear their debt. Going forward, they look good – their stock went up significantly after the bankruptcy filing.
that has to be intimidateing
being an AL pitcher trying to put down a bunt with albert f. pujols charging at you at full speed
45 pitches thru 1 and 2/3? Jesus Wellemeyer
Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.
He can turn easy outs into runs
Like Jesus turns water into wine
Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.
Those are
youth baseball numbers!
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Sorry kids!
I didn’t mean it.
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Pull him, Tony
it’s time
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I don't know if I want to watch someone's head explode.
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you are never gonna start doing it right
until you stop looking for excuses
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I think I'd rather trade for another starter than for holliday
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 27, 2009 1:54 PM EDT reply actions
we are in a couple weeks
or at least it’s going to be like atrade where we don’t have to give anything up for a 15 game winnert
Wellemeyer + Dunc = Twins lead
Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.
It doesnt matter either way...
that was a weakly hit pop up that Ank, Lud, Ras would have been camping under…
Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.
It's all about the offensive matchups
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yes
he’s an awful fielder
i get the point. the camera switched to duncan right as he was running hard directly at the ball and timed his dive nicely but just came up short. oddly, when the ball was hit, the camera was on the batter, so i didn’t know what kind of jump he got until dan said so
He broke back and then had to come in...
terrible read, terrible closing speed….He’s not an outfielder, he’s a Lumberjack on skates.
Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.
he had me for a sec
thought he was going to catch it… shoulda known better heh
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 27, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I really hate having Dunc in the outfield....
What did he cover on that bloop? 8 feet?
Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.
Oh, if we had some speed in LF today
I think this would have been caught standing
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
Holliday can play a decent LF.
"Rasmus doesn't hit lefties. Instead he bashes them over the head with their own bleeding arm he just raced to the mound to rip off before the ball arrives to the plate. He then smashes that baseball with the pitchers bloody arm over the wall because he does not hit lefites he bashes them." Ted Lilly
gee
glad that duncan is in the of
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 27, 2009 1:57 PM EDT reply actions
The organization
is not doing him any favors. They need to send him to Memphis until September.
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That's not what happened.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
No, it isn't.
Someone got hurt.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
I didn't say he got called back up because Papa Dunc was pouting
I said Papa Dunc was visibly upset the entire time Chris was in Memphis.
It can read two different ways.
I took it one way, you meant another.
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Little help for those on GD
Welley’s busted that too
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Jebus.
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is he up to 100 pitches yet?
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Not all Dunc's fault...Wellemeyer walked easy batters and let a .200 hitter get a line drive base hit off of him
then the bloop
Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.
walking two batters on 9 pitches
isn’t pitching to contact.
gonna need more franklins to get through this one.
by hoofhearted-pujols on Jun 27, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Both Duncan and Wellemeyer are horrid
by riotmute on Jun 27, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
This is a valid statement....
Again, this is the battle of the suck…who can suck more? Just wait til Dunc strands the bases loaded later in the game….
Yes I’m calling this….
Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.
WTH
just happened?
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nevermind.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
wait a minute
you’re the prophet… shouldn’t you be doing this instead of riotmute?
Bring the fork, TLR
Welley’s done
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Did TLR just hand Wellemeyer his pink slip out there on the mound?
“Sorry Todd, you’re fired”
Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.
heh
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 27, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey guys! I think I just figured something out!
Wellemeyer sucks!
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
Yadi is nails.
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Kinney?
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 27, 2009 2:14 PM EDT reply actions
Dunno about punched
He fell on him with a closed fist. There would be some fisticuffs if he actually punched him. Yes I made this post entirely because I found an appropriate use for “fisticuffs”.
Not afraid to nitpick
I think he just fell on him with his elbow
but either way, Cuddyer just got messed up.
Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.
Did he
do this? Please?
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by jd is legend on Jun 27, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Molina standing over his prey
….stares at him to make sure he knows he’s a dead duck
Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.
This team needs a spark
Maybe that’s it
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by jd is legend on Jun 27, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
At least Boggs can work out of jams without letting runs score.
Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.
Ask Geovany Soto, he might be able to hook us up
Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.
Schumaker experiment looks better every day
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 27, 2009 2:17 PM EDT reply actions
stats mavens still don't like it
just replacement level at best
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yeah but his arm makes up for it
and he’ll continue to get better
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 27, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Time to get outta that slump Colby!
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
Can Whitey just stay in the booth forever?
I promise i won’t miss AL
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but I am gonna read that as a please? as in agreement with me
rather than a please! as in not, because I can’t deal with the fact that someone would rather have AL
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Ridiculous
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There's no suspense any more
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Clean Shaven Albert
is ridiculous
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by mattyfrommo on Jun 27, 2009 2:22 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I'm saying!
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
Same formula as 1st inning
BANG
Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.
And now Chris Duncan will weakly pop out, ground out, or strike out swinging
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
Haha
Really going out on a limb there arent you?
Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.
EDIT: or bloop a hit into left center
Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.
Still sounds like a weap popup to me
Just found a hole (insert joke about Chris Duncan finding holes) (insert joke about insert)
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by jd is legend on Jun 27, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Chris Duncan couldnt find a hole even if you pointed one out and drew him a map?
Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.
Unless said hole is on the WS trophy
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by jd is legend on Jun 27, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
oh hell yeah
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 27, 2009 2:24 PM EDT reply actions
nice work dunc and yadi
now do your job ank
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 27, 2009 2:27 PM EDT reply actions
Walking the pitcher to get to the pitcher who hits before the pitcher....
Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.
this is what happens
with interleague play when you dont have time to actually watch any of the games that your opposing team has played.
OMFG
They just IBB’d Rick Ankiel
/head explodes
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he's gotta get his walks somehow
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 27, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Herzog rulz
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 27, 2009 2:29 PM EDT reply actions
I liked his comments on interleague play
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 27, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
C'mon Greene
Just get us to the thumba
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serious number, T Greene
c’mon
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You gotta pinch hit for Kinney here
This is a critical point in the game. You have an 8-man bullpen. Use it.
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
Wait
We’re letting Kinney hit in a 2 run game with the bases loaded WHEN WE HAVE A 13 MAN BULLPEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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brilliant managing, there
but you can’t argue with a HOF manager
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I absolutely disagree with TLR on that one
100%. Bad call. Now watch Kinney go out and give up like 4 runs.
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by jd is legend on Jun 27, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I can't take this crap
We have a starter on the team, there will never ever be a more fitting opportunity for the 13th man. This is the only reason to carry 13 pitchers, and then the time comes and we don’t fucking use him. Oh and Kinney has been awful this year so taking him out of the game isn’t the worst thing anyway.
Not afraid to nitpick
just unbelievable.
Kinney better go 3 scoreless innings.
- "I went at it and didn’t slow down, so it kind of bounced off me." -Lil' Dunc
And we don't know.....
Maybe Hawk isn’t available today. Didn’t he pitch > 2 innings just two days ago? He isn’t a bullpen guy.
Say you were standing with one foot in the oven and one foot in an ice bucket. According to the percentage people, you should be perfectly comfortable." - Manager Bobby Bragan
Still.
Say you were standing with one foot in the oven and one foot in an ice bucket. According to the percentage people, you should be perfectly comfortable." - Manager Bobby Bragan
Good answer
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by jd is legend on Jun 27, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
if he can't pitch more than 2 innings every 4 days
he shouldn’t be in the major leagues.
- "I went at it and didn’t slow down, so it kind of bounced off me." -Lil' Dunc
wait?
are you saying that if you bring up a guy to be the longman, and he isn’t being used or is incapable of being used as said longman, then he is wasting a roster spot?
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Inconceivable!
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by jd is legend on Jun 27, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
1st career AB for Kinney???
Mark Worrell this ball, Josh
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Kinney swings at first pitch, fouls it off....
spends the next 10 seconds frantically looking around to find out where he hit the ball..
Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.
Comic relief.
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Because you touch yourself at night
/Family Guy
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by jd is legend on Jun 27, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
i work nights
so i do that during the day, thank you
lulz
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by jd is legend on Jun 27, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
lol
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 27, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Because we don't have a bench?
Ryan can’t hit. You can’t use LaRue. And you don’t want to waste Luddy, do you?
That leave K. Greene as the only option?
Say you were standing with one foot in the oven and one foot in an ice bucket. According to the percentage people, you should be perfectly comfortable." - Manager Bobby Bragan
Oh my Lord
When you stick up for TLR on that decision, well, I can’t help you.
This once again proves the fallacy of having an 8-man pen. We’ve got enough guys to cover 7 innings, but when one of them comes up to bat, we can’t bat for him because “the bench is too small”? ARGH!
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by jd is legend on Jun 27, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
waste luddy?
i would think bases loaded is the perfect time to use him, especially when you have a starter in the bullpen
With two outs in the 3rd?
LOL
Say you were standing with one foot in the oven and one foot in an ice bucket. According to the percentage people, you should be perfectly comfortable." - Manager Bobby Bragan
What does the inning have anything to do with anything
When are you going to have a better chance to score runs?
Not afraid to nitpick
We'll have plenty of chances.....
If we were down, or tied, or there were less than two outs, I’d agree.
But we were up, TWO runs, and there WERE two outs. Pinch Luddy, and he K’s or flies out, and be better hope to God we don’t need a pinch hitter later.
Say you were standing with one foot in the oven and one foot in an ice bucket. According to the percentage people, you should be perfectly comfortable." - Manager Bobby Bragan
Who cares if we need a pinch hitter later
There will never be a game situation that will require a pinch hitter more than bases loaded 2 outs. If we score right there, we likely will never be close enough to ever need a pinch hitter again.
There’s just no possible way to justify punting a bases loaded situation. Zero. Just stop, that was horrible.
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Jun 27, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I might have went over the line with the LOLs
but man, LOLing someone else’s opinion just pisses me off to no end.
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by mattyfrommo on Jun 27, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
another reasonm for no 13 man pitching staff
Ryan is hurt. K Greene must be hurt, and you don’t use the backup catcher this early. This roster makeup/management is just fucking crazy. Yay for a 2 man fucking bench!
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I am a big TLR fan
and the thirteen man bullpen hasn’t and won’t change that. But I don’t know how that situation can be construed as wasting Ludwick.
Goodness
Why, pray tell, is there a short bench? Combination of injuries and a 13 man pen. Why is there a 13 man pen? To keep a long guy for short-appearance insurance, perhaps? What happened today…starter got bounced early, right? And yet, the longman isn’t being used. This is EXACTLY the situation for a long man, and it’s not happening. This is getting insane, and I think you know that.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jun 27, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Longman
You don’t bring one in when you are winning, and he isn’t very good.
Longman also = mopup.
Say you were standing with one foot in the oven and one foot in an ice bucket. According to the percentage people, you should be perfectly comfortable." - Manager Bobby Bragan
You bring your long man in when you yank your starter early due to ineffectiveness
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 27, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
If your longman is good you do.
If he isn’t, you don’t have to.
Usually when your SP get’s bombed, and has to be yanked early, it is a game you are expecting to lose. We were winning.
Say you were standing with one foot in the oven and one foot in an ice bucket. According to the percentage people, you should be perfectly comfortable." - Manager Bobby Bragan
Bring in McClellan then
He started in the minors
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by jd is legend on Jun 27, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
If he isn’t, you don’t have to.
If he’s no good then he shouldn’t be on the team.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jun 27, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
We don't have better options.
Do we?
Say you were standing with one foot in the oven and one foot in an ice bucket. According to the percentage people, you should be perfectly comfortable." - Manager Bobby Bragan
Did he not 3 days ago?
Say you were standing with one foot in the oven and one foot in an ice bucket. According to the percentage people, you should be perfectly comfortable." - Manager Bobby Bragan
For the first time
He’s also for example used him for 1 inning in a blowout game. If he’s only there for blowouts, I’d rather we just used a position player who could be useful in the 90% of games that aren’t blowouts.
Not afraid to nitpick
And that's at least entertaining.
Who didn’t love Aaron Miles getting up on a mound taller than he was!
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jun 27, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
So...
…you only use the longman when you get bombed early. How often does that happen? You’re keeping a guy on the roster for those handful of times when shit hits the fan. THAT’S A WASTED ROSTER SPOT. Why you continue to think this way is utterly beyond me.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jun 27, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
You can get bombed late too.....
Or just be down 4-0 in the 9th.
Say you were standing with one foot in the oven and one foot in an ice bucket. According to the percentage people, you should be perfectly comfortable." - Manager Bobby Bragan
bases loaded, 2 outs
and the relief pitcher bats? TLR has completely lost it.
- "I went at it and didn’t slow down, so it kind of bounced off me." -Lil' Dunc
I wholeheartedly agree
TLR has made some crazy and stupid decisions over the years, but he’s made a lot of those kind this season
Welcome to Baseball Heaven.
I worry he might be getting dementia or something
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 27, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
stupidist move of the year?
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 27, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Brendan Ryan > Ludwick wins that one
Because you know a high strikeout flyball hitter is a DP candidate and all…
Not afraid to nitpick
yeah
that was the only one that I could think of that could compete
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 27, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Is Albert
really 5 for 5 with 5 HR and 10 RBI against Slowey?
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
Gameday was lying!
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
Uggh
I wonder why they didn’t talk about not pitching to Pujols during the Mets series. They’re using Nathan striking out Pujols last night as evidence that he should’ve walked him. I’ve never been less happy during a game we were leading.
Not afraid to nitpick
Dan also called Kinney's slider
that almost hit Span (on the 2-2 count that turned into 3-2) a nice one.
Welcome to Baseball Heaven.
TLR's lost it
Not only that, but he brought in Miller. Guarantee Miller walks the batter.
Welcome to Baseball Heaven.
try not to think about it
you’ll go mad!
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 27, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
TLR now takes out Kinney for Miller
WTF TONY?
Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.
Yep
Not hard to understand.
Say you were standing with one foot in the oven and one foot in an ice bucket. According to the percentage people, you should be perfectly comfortable." - Manager Bobby Bragan
oh, it's easy to understand
and it was clearly the wrong decision.
- "I went at it and didn’t slow down, so it kind of bounced off me." -Lil' Dunc
Well it worked...
But it was poorly executed…
Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.
what worked?
Kinney made an out, then pitched poorly the next inning. it most emphatically DID NOT work.
- "I went at it and didn’t slow down, so it kind of bounced off me." -Lil' Dunc
i'm not disagreeing with your point that it was probably the wrong move
but Kinney didn’t pitch terribly the next inning.
he got real lucky with the line drive double play
if they hadn’t been hit-and-running, it’s first and third with no outs.
As it was, he gave up 2 hits and got two outs, which is pretty bad.
- "I went at it and didn’t slow down, so it kind of bounced off me." -Lil' Dunc
the move to go with Miller worked....
not the Kinney appearance.
Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.
Clearly.
:rolleyes:
Short bench. You have to save your ONLY bullet, especially with all our lefties in the lineup.
Say you were standing with one foot in the oven and one foot in an ice bucket. According to the percentage people, you should be perfectly comfortable." - Manager Bobby Bragan
Huh?
Maybe if/when we are LOSING, with less innings left to play. Maybe if they bring in a LOOGY, and Ank or Duncan is up in the late innings.
You have to leave yourself SOME protection. If an OF were to get hurt, or need to be pulled, that means Skip moves to the OF, and K. Greene has to bat. You wouldn’t want Luddy over that?
My God, you guys act like Luddy is the Luddy of last year. He isn’t. More than likely, he’d have gotten out. Period.
Say you were standing with one foot in the oven and one foot in an ice bucket. According to the percentage people, you should be perfectly comfortable." - Manager Bobby Bragan
easiest way not to be LOSING
is to score runs in high-leverage situations early in the game.
- "I went at it and didn’t slow down, so it kind of bounced off me." -Lil' Dunc
More than likely, even Albert would have gotten out
Stop being so condescending
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 27, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL back at ya
“More than likely have gotten out.” That’s a great point seeing as how literally everyone in the game is more than likely to get out.
You are arguing that there might be a better opportunity to pinch hit based on platoon splits? Tell me, who is more likely to get a hit: Josh Kinney (whose last at-bat, all 3 of them, was in 2006) or Ank/Dunc against a lefty. Just answer that one and you will see how dumb that was.
Oh and not only that, the bases were loaded. TLR just punted the best scoring opportunity there is in this sport.
Not afraid to nitpick
And if you pinch hit....
EVERY time there is a high leverage situation, regardless of game score, regardless of who is batting, regardless of inning, regardless of bench, etc…..well, that would be dumb.
Say you were standing with one foot in the oven and one foot in an ice bucket. According to the percentage people, you should be perfectly comfortable." - Manager Bobby Bragan
Except
This isn’t just a high leverage situation. This is THE highest leverage situation in terms of run scoring there is. You absolutely can never have a better opportunity to pinch hit than to replace a reliever with the bases loaded and 2 outs. There will never be a better opportunity to pinch hit in this game, I stone cold guarantee it. The absolute worst case scenario is there is an equally as good opportunity.
Not afraid to nitpick
Well...
…you’re not necessarily wrong. But if Ludwick hits and gets a double or something it clears the bases and, more than likely, the Cardinals win the game. If he doesn’t, well we’re in the same situation as before but at least the Cardinals tried to win the game.
You talk about protection…and I don’t disagree that protecting yourself is a good idea…but what you’re talking about is rearranging deck chairs on the damn Titanic.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jun 27, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Why again do we have a short bench?
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 27, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
WTF?
I like Tony and all but that makes no sense. There was no need for Kinney to bat with the bases loaded.
And what happen to the Wellemeyer of 2008?
"Rasmus doesn't hit lefties. Instead he bashes them over the head with their own bleeding arm he just raced to the mound to rip off before the ball arrives to the plate. He then smashes that baseball with the pitchers bloody arm over the wall because he does not hit lefites he bashes them." Ted Lilly
he is but a fading memory
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 27, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Tony's memory is also fading
I’m not sure what he’s thinking right now. Got a lot of odd decisions – letting Kinney bat with the bases loaded, taking Kinney out for Miller, not bringing in Hawksworth…
Welcome to Baseball Heaven.
can't include kinney-miller in that litany
that’s classic La Russa, and almost an explanation for the decision to leave Kinney in.
yeah, that decision was fine
except that we burned our best LOOGY in a pretty low-leverage situation. but can’t complain about that.
- "I went at it and didn’t slow down, so it kind of bounced off me." -Lil' Dunc
I would defect my fandom
Quin Snyder’s last year i was so fed up with his garbage that I cheered for Illinois in the Braggin’ Rights game. I couldn’t defect to the Cubs, but I could be talked into the, um…Royals.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jun 27, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Well I'm a Mizzou guy...so there's that
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jun 27, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Jason Werth hit one into the 5th deck today
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 27, 2009 2:42 PM EDT reply actions
well
that worked out
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 27, 2009 2:45 PM EDT reply actions
If we had Holliday on the team Tony would not have let Kinney bat.
"Rasmus doesn't hit lefties. Instead he bashes them over the head with their own bleeding arm he just raced to the mound to rip off before the ball arrives to the plate. He then smashes that baseball with the pitchers bloody arm over the wall because he does not hit lefites he bashes them." Ted Lilly
I'd wager against that
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 27, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Me too...it was just a joke.
"Rasmus doesn't hit lefties. Instead he bashes them over the head with their own bleeding arm he just raced to the mound to rip off before the ball arrives to the plate. He then smashes that baseball with the pitchers bloody arm over the wall because he does not hit lefites he bashes them." Ted Lilly
Do These Moves Make Any Sense To Anyone?
Not pinch hitting with the bases loaded for Kinney when you know he will not last long is absolutely crazy. Hawksworth should have been brought in plain and simple. Why have all the pitchers and then not use them when you finally have a chance to break a game open. Tony has been a great manager but his decisions this year are not logical over and over/
in his defense
sending miller in for kinney was the logical extension of his illogical last move. He wanted short relievers in for the middle of the Twins order, I guess, so that he could pull them for matchups.
If you've already shot yourself in the foot...
…you might as well chop off a little more…or something.
Wait, what?
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jun 27, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
if you bring hawk in there
like I would have, for what it’s worth, he has to face morneau or else you literally don’t have a long reliever any more.
Oh, I'm with you
If you’re going to start treating the 4th inning like the 7th and bring in a short guy (Kinney), you have to mix and match like you would later on. This could have been avoided by just using Hawk like he’s designed to be used…a long guy. Tony’s crossed the Rubicon on this one.
The “Wait, what?” was more a comment on my own strange comment.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jun 27, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
probably Tony just trying to make a point
he wants the big bat
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 27, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Tony is killing this team, plain and simple.
I really want him gone.
Is very bad to steal A-Pu's rum...is very bad.
plain and simple
I think you’re overreacting. I know we joke about the track record, but it does exist. Smarter people than me (Bill James et al) have quantified what managers do to a team with some degree of success, and it is not strictly a matter of the mechanical personnel moves they make.
I understand a concept of "Hard Nine" and the effect that may have
And I’m also not suggesting that we replace him with a stiff, but when he keeps making illogical decisions and carrying a bad personnel group for this team, it overwhelms the fact that he can motivate.
You can find managers who can do both.
Is very bad to steal A-Pu's rum...is very bad.
by Power Slurve on Jun 27, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Gone?
Maybe not. But this is bizarre at best.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jun 27, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
hey
it’s thursty at 3rd!
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 27, 2009 2:48 PM EDT reply actions
Isn't it a little late for the IBB? Odds are he makes an out.
"Rasmus doesn't hit lefties. Instead he bashes them over the head with their own bleeding arm he just raced to the mound to rip off before the ball arrives to the plate. He then smashes that baseball with the pitchers bloody arm over the wall because he does not hit lefites he bashes them." Ted Lilly
Haha guys putting up the vag sign on TV
In any case, I enjoy this IBB. Even if it is Duncan coming up.
Not afraid to nitpick
I laughed hard
it took the camera guys a while to figure that out
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
LOL
I saw that….the guys in the truck quickly realized what they were airing.
Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.
I hope that the Cards score here
But I’ve got a bad feeling that it won’t happen.
Welcome to Baseball Heaven.
Dunc
Please get those runs back.
Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.
Albert is due for another SB
"Rasmus doesn't hit lefties. Instead he bashes them over the head with their own bleeding arm he just raced to the mound to rip off before the ball arrives to the plate. He then smashes that baseball with the pitchers bloody arm over the wall because he does not hit lefites he bashes them." Ted Lilly
Ha!
Hopefully that IBB backfires. You walk Pujols instead of trying to get him out, which is more likely than not in baseball, and then you walk Duncan too…
You’re screwed now, Twins!
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jun 27, 2009 2:51 PM EDT reply actions
Tony could pinch hit for Yadi but he already burned up Kinney.
"Rasmus doesn't hit lefties. Instead he bashes them over the head with their own bleeding arm he just raced to the mound to rip off before the ball arrives to the plate. He then smashes that baseball with the pitchers bloody arm over the wall because he does not hit lefites he bashes them." Ted Lilly
Strike 3 was easier to explain.
Slider low and away. Even AP chases that on occasion.
Should have been taking the others, though.
by StanTheManFan on Jun 27, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
How does carrying 8 relievers help us?
I’d really like to know.
Is very bad to steal A-Pu's rum...is very bad.
I'd like to know that
and why TLR has made some of the decisions he has made today.
Welcome to Baseball Heaven.
Should have saved Kinney for that moment.
"Rasmus doesn't hit lefties. Instead he bashes them over the head with their own bleeding arm he just raced to the mound to rip off before the ball arrives to the plate. He then smashes that baseball with the pitchers bloody arm over the wall because he does not hit lefites he bashes them." Ted Lilly
a perfect situation for Hawksworth?
We’d like to actually win this game, Hawksworth would pretty much guarantee that doesn’t happen. He is strictly a blow out pitcher.
If you wanted to win this game, carrying 5 guys on the bench and having one of them PH for Kinney is a way to do that.
Is very bad to steal A-Pu's rum...is very bad.
by Power Slurve on Jun 27, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
nah
he’s capable of being good
the more and more he sits, the less that is true, though
by prophetjohn on Jun 27, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Whoa...
…the club went farther than the ball!!!
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jun 27, 2009 2:58 PM EDT reply actions
The price is wrong bitch
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 27, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Barker is clearly roided up
Look at those forearms.
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by Power Slurve on Jun 27, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm just hoping Pinata
will be able to make it through the game without giving up a lot of runs. If he does, he’ll be in one of the “take one for the team” days.
Welcome to Baseball Heaven.
How can we even possibly have a "take one for the team" day with an 8-man bullpen
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 27, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
When the bullpen use is cluster f'ed
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jun 27, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
K-Mac needs to eat some innings here.
He’s been way too wild lately. No walks, pick up the slack here.
I will be pissed if the ship out K Mac instead of Perez to Oakland.
"Rasmus doesn't hit lefties. Instead he bashes them over the head with their own bleeding arm he just raced to the mound to rip off before the ball arrives to the plate. He then smashes that baseball with the pitchers bloody arm over the wall because he does not hit lefites he bashes them." Ted Lilly
At least if we trade for a Boras client we'll get a couple of high draft picks.
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by Power Slurve on Jun 27, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Long as we don't get Milwaulkee'd
"Rasmus doesn't hit lefties. Instead he bashes them over the head with their own bleeding arm he just raced to the mound to rip off before the ball arrives to the plate. He then smashes that baseball with the pitchers bloody arm over the wall because he does not hit lefites he bashes them." Ted Lilly
Cuddyer and Molina sharing words at the plate....
Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.
it must be his day
if the official scorer leaves his hit last inning as a triple.
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
Good thing we stuck with Miller despite the shoulder issue.
Can you imagine having Dennys and Royce Ring in the pen??
nice play
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 27, 2009 3:04 PM EDT reply actions
Natty light needs to ditch those commercials
Just advertise themselves as having the perfect drinkability for being the “Beer Pong Beer”.
Not afraid to nitpick
so if we get Holliday
can we bat Albert cleanup?
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 27, 2009 3:05 PM EDT reply actions
Then we would have to trade for another player to hit behind Albert for protection right?
"Rasmus doesn't hit lefties. Instead he bashes them over the head with their own bleeding arm he just raced to the mound to rip off before the ball arrives to the plate. He then smashes that baseball with the pitchers bloody arm over the wall because he does not hit lefites he bashes them." Ted Lilly
No.
I just said the words Denard Span out loud and then said the words an engineering term out loud as well.
They sound nothing alike.
"Rasmus doesn't hit lefties. Instead he bashes them over the head with their own bleeding arm he just raced to the mound to rip off before the ball arrives to the plate. He then smashes that baseball with the pitchers bloody arm over the wall because he does not hit lefites he bashes them." Ted Lilly
I bet you play the PC Game Team Fortress 2
The Engineer in the game uses a spanner (basically a very versatile crescent wrench) as a weapon.
Spanner? You brought her...
"Rasmus doesn't hit lefties. Instead he bashes them over the head with their own bleeding arm he just raced to the mound to rip off before the ball arrives to the plate. He then smashes that baseball with the pitchers bloody arm over the wall because he does not hit lefites he bashes them." Ted Lilly
Greene is regressing to the mean
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jun 27, 2009 3:08 PM EDT reply actions
Seems to be a good year for that for Cardinal players.
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by Power Slurve on Jun 27, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
TLR is the best bad manager I've ever seen
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
I like that
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jun 27, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
BTW I don't think he's a bad manager...
…I just think that’s a funny line.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jun 27, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
heh
or the worst good one
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 27, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
lazy saturday
still in bed, hah!
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 27, 2009 3:13 PM EDT reply actions
Oh boy
Lincecum-Thompson, that is a matchup for the ages.
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
wow
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 27, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
K McClellan
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 27, 2009 3:14 PM EDT reply actions
McClellan will never be a starter imo
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 27, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Welle
So…I realize that Lohse is reasonably close to coming back, but is it too early to just ditch Welle from the rotation? I mean, he’s been pretty awful. Boggs has struggled a bit at AAA, but Wellemeyer is killing us.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jun 27, 2009 3:16 PM EDT reply actions
question being, can Boggs do better than Welley I guess.
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 27, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I call it a wash.
I can’t remember Boggs pitching past the 5th inning in any of his few starts. Boggs has better stuff but I don’t think the difference between him and The Colonel right now is big enough to justify a move.
by Ghostrider520 on Jun 27, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
i also
don’t remember boggs being much over 80 pitches or giving up a bunch of runs. just because tony pulls him any time he gets in trouble after the fifth doesn’t mean wellsemeyer is better
I wouldn't mind gambling on it
at worst, he’d probably be roughly the same type pitcher
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 27, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
we're only gambling
for what, 3 starts? we know how those will go with welly on the mound
throw the kid in there
3 starts?
I’m hoping Thompson will not remain the starting rotation…
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 27, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I think they're close enough now...
…that it’s worth trying out. Maybe he’ll do better, maybe not. If he does better than it’s a bonus. If not, the FO has learned something about the kid. I think that at this point running Wellemeyer out there is just banging your head into a wall.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jun 27, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
We just need to DFA the bum and get it over with.
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by Power Slurve on Jun 27, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
so, you like Wellemeyer a lot, eh?
hehe
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 27, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
He's not even worth sending to the glue factory to grind up
It’s an insult to adhesives.
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by Power Slurve on Jun 27, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Dunc caught one!
But darn near missed it. I cringe every time Dunc fields one (even the most routine plays), because he’s a 1st baseman in left field.
Welcome to Baseball Heaven.
nice job kmac!
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 27, 2009 3:19 PM EDT reply actions
It'd be nice to see the Cards win
on my dad’s 50th b-day (which is today). We’ve already played golf and both shot 80, so I think a Cards win would make my dad happier.
Welcome to Baseball Heaven.
We live in Michigan
So we’ve been spared. Plus we had an early tee time (8:30 AM)
Welcome to Baseball Heaven.
Twins only have 6 pitchers in their Pen
Mike says we might see them all today
I stood where no man goes...
Thurston, you tard.
Is very bad to steal A-Pu's rum...is very bad.
He's trying to get picked off at every base this year.
Already taken care of 2nd base, now 1st base…3rd base is the next logical step.
by Ghostrider520 on Jun 27, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
He'll find a way to get picked off of home.
Is very bad to steal A-Pu's rum...is very bad.
by Power Slurve on Jun 27, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Next year's rotation...
Carpenter, Wainwright, Lohse, Pineiro….
Then who do you like for the #5 spot? Boggs, Mortensen, K-Mac, Ottavino, OTHER?
I'd favor Boggs
Although Pineiro is a free agent after this season, and I’d be surprised to see STL bring him back.
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I was assuming...
That Pineiro would be serviceable the rest of the year a la Jeff Weaver, except elect to stay in STL.
by Ghostrider520 on Jun 27, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
except when he gets those triples
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 27, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
They both suck. End of story
Is very bad to steal A-Pu's rum...is very bad.
by Power Slurve on Jun 27, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
hey guys
does it seem like rasmus has the edmonds eyeblack/sunglasses look going on?
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by FredbirdisaDork on Jun 27, 2009 3:23 PM EDT reply actions
as long as he doesn't sport belly shirts
under his jersey, he’s cool by me.
"I've played a couple of hundred games of tic-tac-toe with my little daughter and she hasn't beaten me yet. I've always had to win. I've got to win." - Bob Gibson
What happened with Thurston?
Good move? Got caught in a hit-and-run that didn’t happen? Plain old brain cramp? GD only tells you that it happened, not how.
We've been told he led the International League in hits last year...
But he also led it in pick-offs and errors. :)
I kid, I kid.
by Ghostrider520 on Jun 27, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
he got picked off
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 27, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, DUH.
I meant HOW did he get picked off? Screwup or nasty move or what?
by StanTheManFan on Jun 27, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Dan'n'Al said his legs got crossed up getting back to the bag
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by FredbirdisaDork on Jun 27, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
ha....
I called somebody on the other team a p*ssy for not swinging the bat the other night in softball…. and now i find myself thinking that the other team is the same thing for walking albert
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by FredbirdisaDork on Jun 27, 2009 3:27 PM EDT reply actions
lol
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 27, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
duncan't drive in runs in scoring position
Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.
i used to call ron gant
ron can’t
"I've played a couple of hundred games of tic-tac-toe with my little daughter and she hasn't beaten me yet. I've always had to win. I've got to win." - Bob Gibson
wish it would have been with the bases loaded that way I could say I called it....
Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.
Duncan is a rat bum
There are so many guys on this team I wish would just go away and never come back.
Is very bad to steal A-Pu's rum...is very bad.
we need a collection of bewildered duncan faces
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 27, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Duncan offers less protection for Albert than Dallas had for JFK
Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.
Duncan sucks
He hardly ever has a good game, and he’s terrible when he needs to be clutch.
Welcome to Baseball Heaven.
he had a good april
but then the gobs stole our offense
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 27, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Duncan's CBS Sportsline Fantasy Baseball Analysis...
“He’s really struggling in June and should only be used in NL-only and the deepest of mixed leagues until he heats up again.”
I’d say that’s generous :).
THE BIG SWEAT!!!
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jun 27, 2009 3:34 PM EDT reply actions
he'd better be hittin up
that rosin bag pretty hard on a day like today.
"I've played a couple of hundred games of tic-tac-toe with my little daughter and she hasn't beaten me yet. I've always had to win. I've got to win." - Bob Gibson
Don't like this move.
This way he’s not available when Mauer pinch-hits with 2 on, 2 out in the 9th.
by StanTheManFan on Jun 27, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Reyes is going to lose 10 pounds in this heat.
And then gain it right back when he assaults the post-game buffet.
I want breakfast
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 27, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Reyes must be on the Doctor Nick diet
"Rasmus doesn't hit lefties. Instead he bashes them over the head with their own bleeding arm he just raced to the mound to rip off before the ball arrives to the plate. He then smashes that baseball with the pitchers bloody arm over the wall because he does not hit lefites he bashes them." Ted Lilly
Hey everybody!
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Jun 27, 2009 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Huge props to K-Mac.
I’d like to give him a big “Atta’ Boy” for picking up the bullpen and the team.
How dare they put Jeter ahead of Pujols in that all-star advertisement
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 27, 2009 3:38 PM EDT reply actions
My computer sucks mind you...
But does MLB.TV just totally swamp anyone else’s system? It’s probably just mine, but it’s freakin’ ridiculous the way it just puts me in slow motion…
V, b.
mine is ok
but I have a new computer. this board is way ahead of it though
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 27, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Are you using Nexdef?
That’s why you’re so far behind. If you go without Nexdef, you’re actually a second or two ahead of the TV feed. Of course the quality isn’t as good. I can’t use Nexdef though, just makes everything even slower…
V, b.
ah
that explains it…
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 27, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
nexdef
is terrible technology. I’ve tried it on 3 different relatively powerful computers and each one just looks like its constantly missing frames. The picture is way smoother though not as sharp at the lower resolutions.
hmm
can I get rid of it?
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 27, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
You can uninstall it...
Or just click on the video quality bars and there’s a switch to turn it off. The problem is that you’ll lose the DVR “functionality” if that’s important to you. But he’s right, Nexdef is terrible.
V, b.
Albert is good
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by FredbirdisaDork on Jun 27, 2009 3:39 PM EDT reply actions
dang
rasmus is good
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 27, 2009 3:39 PM EDT reply actions
holding breath
"I've played a couple of hundred games of tic-tac-toe with my little daughter and she hasn't beaten me yet. I've always had to win. I've got to win." - Bob Gibson
Pujols limps and aches and all that all the time, I've learned to ignore it
He’s AP-5.0 nothing hurts him.
Not afraid to nitpick
this just in
heading into today’s game—not even taking into account the latest pick-off—Thurston’s been worth -6 outs on the basepaths. That’s unbelievable.
you know, dan...
it really is.
"I've played a couple of hundred games of tic-tac-toe with my little daughter and she hasn't beaten me yet. I've always had to win. I've got to win." - Bob Gibson
by MUGATU on Jun 27, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don't want to make a blanket statement here...
but it’s unusual for a player with such good speed to be so bad on the basepaths.
by Ghostrider520 on Jun 27, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Is there anyway to designated run for Thursty?
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jun 27, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice play
but I hope Albert’s not hurt. Everytime he makes a big defensive play, I always worry that he’s hurt.
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that play was amazing
looked very awkward though
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 27, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
hey guys
am i alone in not drinking Natty Light? I mean… I did in College… but it was usually bringing up the rear to a case of bud light. Now that I’m older… I can’t remember the last time I had one. Am I being snobby?
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by FredbirdisaDork on Jun 27, 2009 3:41 PM EDT reply actions
never drank that stuff
although I’ll drink the hell out of busch
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 27, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Busch
tastes like old, soggy bread.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
I had like 15 Busch Lights today (spread out over 10 or so hours)
My liver said no, but my wallet said yes
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 28, 2009 3:24 AM EDT up reply actions
I think someone mentioned it earlier, but...
Natty Light is a good extracurricular beer.
Beer pong, yes.
Providing beer for large groups, yes.
Casual drinking, no.
by Ghostrider520 on Jun 27, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I tried to drink it once last year
It felt like I was chugging sulfuric acid.
Is very bad to steal A-Pu's rum...is very bad.
by Power Slurve on Jun 27, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Good call
To its credit though… Natural Light is very tasty out of the keg
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by FredbirdisaDork on Jun 27, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
well...
“tasty” in the sense that you have already numbed your senses enough to be willing to pay for,as well as go through the hassle of getting it in, a keg
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by FredbirdisaDork on Jun 27, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
College...
Bud Light…when empty, get some more then get Busch Light…when empty, get Keystones…when empty, think about Natty…when done thinking, go buy more ’Stones.
Keystone = Coors Light
Literally, it’s the exact same stuff.
I don’t even want to think of how many ’stones I drank in my younger days.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jun 27, 2009 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Even in College, Keystones > Natural
Baseball's concept of athletes is all wrong. Batter cannot walk with 4 balls.
when i think back about all the rancid natty lite and esp. keystone lite i drank in college
i shudder. I can hardly even stomach bud light anymore (though I don’t mind regular budweiser). Now the fridge is always stocked with Newcastle as my everyday, go-to beer
The cool kids?
The hipsters who wear girls jeans and thick rimmed glasses and listen to indie music that sucks but since no one knows who it is it’s cool? This isn’t to knock PBR (I like it for cheap beer) but it’s a part of that horrific movement that rejects being mainstream….by dressing and doing things all the same.
Not afraid to nitpick
Albert Pujols is literally keeping this team good by himself
I mean, Carpenter is really good too but he only throws every few days. Albert should win a special award for MLB MVP, not just NL.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jun 27, 2009 3:43 PM EDT reply actions
We're probably a 20 win team right now without him....if that.
Is very bad to steal A-Pu's rum...is very bad.
by Power Slurve on Jun 27, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I wonder what cudduyer did to piss of molina
wasn’t a bad slide
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 27, 2009 3:44 PM EDT reply actions
Racial slur...he's well known as a virulent racist.
Is very bad to steal A-Pu's rum...is very bad.
by Power Slurve on Jun 27, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
really?
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 27, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
really?
or is this sarcasm minus the blue font
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by FredbirdisaDork on Jun 27, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't buy that
gonna need more franklins to get through this one.
by hoofhearted-pujols on Jun 27, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
J/K :)
Is very bad to steal A-Pu's rum...is very bad.
by Power Slurve on Jun 27, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
good
I kinda like cuddyer
gonna need more franklins to get through this one.
by hoofhearted-pujols on Jun 27, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
He's a really solid ball player. He does about everything well.
Is very bad to steal A-Pu's rum...is very bad.
by Power Slurve on Jun 27, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Sarcasm.
Is very bad to steal A-Pu's rum...is very bad.
Reply fail
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 28, 2009 3:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Very important half inning here.
You have to think Mauer will be pinch-hitting in the 7 spot if anyone is on base.
soriano?
"I've played a couple of hundred games of tic-tac-toe with my little daughter and she hasn't beaten me yet. I've always had to win. I've got to win." - Bob Gibson
ok so here is my question...
is there any way that albert does not win the MVP again this year at this pace?
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by FredbirdisaDork on Jun 27, 2009 3:51 PM EDT reply actions
I'd say hitting 60 HRs with 150+ RBI and an OPS near 1200 is a pretty sure bet.
And then they’ll give it do Ibanez.
Is very bad to steal A-Pu's rum...is very bad.
by Power Slurve on Jun 27, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
ha.. yeah
i mean seriously…. we would be nowhere if it were not for albert
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by FredbirdisaDork on Jun 27, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
no
"Rasmus doesn't hit lefties. Instead he bashes them over the head with their own bleeding arm he just raced to the mound to rip off before the ball arrives to the plate. He then smashes that baseball with the pitchers bloody arm over the wall because he does not hit lefites he bashes them." Ted Lilly
overflow is up
gonna need more franklins to get through this one.
by hoofhearted-pujols on Jun 27, 2009 3:52 PM EDT reply actions
Motte rulz
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