Game 75 Open Thread: Twins at Cardinals
by DanUpBaby on Jun 26, 2009 7:52 PM EDT
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PrintMinnesota Twins at St. Louis Cardinals, Jun 26, 2009 8:15 PM EDT
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| Perkins | Wainwright |
| 2-4, 5.10 | 8-4, 3.58 |
Perkins is a Soft Tossin Lefty in everything but the actual velocity of his fastball, which does touch 90; hopefully that contradiction is enough to list the Cardinals' offense out of its southpaw doldrums.
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Tonight is Wainwrights night
he is going to toss 8 scoreless
gonna need more franklins to get through this one.
by hoofhearted-pujols on Jun 26, 2009 7:58 PM EDT reply actions
FAIL
gonna need more franklins to get through this one.
by hoofhearted-pujols on Jun 26, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Perkins is no Dennys
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Jun 26, 2009 7:58 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
impress us, Wainer
we believe in you
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 26, 2009 8:03 PM EDT reply actions
Wow!
I just realized the NHL Draft is Live on Vs. right now……….riveting.
I have a very, umm...photographic brain. A lot like Ansel Adams but in color and with a lot more, uh.....insertion and pubic hair.
Soft Tossing Lefty vs. Our offense when Waino's on the mound
This should be interesting.
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yeah
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 26, 2009 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions
this game deserves a busch
beertime
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 26, 2009 8:15 PM EDT reply actions
what's up with the game not starting yet?
it’s already 8:15pm
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
they need to put up one of those
‘kids should be seen, not heard’ signs
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
Sittin' here, ready to enjoy the game
in my brand new Majestic Rasmus shirt!
No longer patiently awaiting. Raz has arrived.
That last fastball hit 94
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 26, 2009 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I love that sig!
I LOL’d
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by RunninRedbird on Jun 26, 2009 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions
The best part is that they DO put OBP on the Turner Field scoreboard
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 26, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Ha!
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by RunninRedbird on Jun 26, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions
screw happy hour tonight
i’d rather sit home alone and type about the game with strangers. my girlfriend will never comprehend this.
yeah
I’m pretty much in the same boat
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 26, 2009 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions
what is the "girlfriend" you speak of?
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
the ex and I seem to have patched things over
Have to admit, we’re in a good place now. Its nice.
by Expatcardfan on Jun 26, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions
....until you ditch her for a baseball blog on a Friday night...
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 26, 2009 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions
she's a Red Sox fan, she'll get over it
by Expatcardfan on Jun 26, 2009 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions
i can see why she was your x,,,,
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
evilfrog & jd
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
by gdm426 on Jun 26, 2009 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Touche
Been called worse
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 26, 2009 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions
nice play Skip
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 26, 2009 8:21 PM EDT reply actions
if you all can, i highly recomend watching the Twins feed
Bert never disappoints
and i luv Adam’s curve ball. i really do.
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
bert was solid
on the fsnmw pregame with dan… made me sad when al came back into the booth.
"I've played a couple of hundred games of tic-tac-toe with my little daughter and she hasn't beaten me yet. I've always had to win. I've got to win." - Bob Gibson
wagonmaker has some pop tonight
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 26, 2009 8:22 PM EDT reply actions
he's being super careful here with these two
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
come on Adam....
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
cmon now
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 26, 2009 8:27 PM EDT reply actions
Damn it
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
well crap
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
See TLR?
That’s why it’s a good thing for your hitters to take walks
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
And clog up the bases?
No no, that can’t be right.
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by RunninRedbird on Jun 26, 2009 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions
see TLR?
this is why thursty sucks
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
Fuck!
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
Hustle
Sigh…Waino over 30 pitches in the first…
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 26, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions
crede's going to put the game outta reach here
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
wait, it already is!
nevermind
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
About our inability to come back from deficits...
Yadi swings and hits a high fly ball... Endy Chavez goes back, to the track, to the wall... ITS A GUNNER!! Yadi gives St. Louis the lead in the top of the ninth!
well
thanks, joe… you just made my decision for me. now i have to go to the bar and spend lots of money. FUCK!!!
"I've played a couple of hundred games of tic-tac-toe with my little daughter and she hasn't beaten me yet. I've always had to win. I've got to win." - Bob Gibson
Hate. Thurston.
Absolutely despise him. I don’t care about the arguments toward his athleticism or “good glove”, I cannot stand having him at third not making plays. We could just as well have Wallace there. However, Wallace would hit
Yadi swings and hits a high fly ball... Endy Chavez goes back, to the track, to the wall... ITS A GUNNER!! Yadi gives St. Louis the lead in the top of the ninth!
Colby hit .255 last year
at Memphis.
Yadi swings and hits a high fly ball... Endy Chavez goes back, to the track, to the wall... ITS A GUNNER!! Yadi gives St. Louis the lead in the top of the ninth!
Colby also had a lot better minor league track record
Wallace was playing with aluminum bats this time last year. He’s not ready, don’t be stupid.
How about giving the guy a shot?
Just like they did with Price. He is batting .268, Colby’s lifetime at AAA is .251 and lifetime at MILB is .277. This is a lot better. If Wallace is going to be your everyday 3B at ’10, you might as well give him a shot. Its not like our surplus of third basemen are doing wonders this year… It is the positin with the least batting production this year at St. Louis…
Yadi swings and hits a high fly ball... Endy Chavez goes back, to the track, to the wall... ITS A GUNNER!! Yadi gives St. Louis the lead in the top of the ninth!
please
no more thursty at 3b
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 26, 2009 8:31 PM EDT reply actions
please no more thursty period
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
thursty for derosa
straightup
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 26, 2009 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions
why no K-bot?
Don’t give me this lefty/righty horsefeathers. Even if he’s hardly played there, I still trust Khalil’s glove more.
by Expatcardfan on Jun 26, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions
the only reasons he should not in is if his leg hurts from being hit three times in the last week
or he’s down about his lack of production in the last series. which he shouldn’t be, he wasn’t the only one who didn’t do a lot this week.
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
I just got a brand new signature and today is one of nine reasons why
Get DeRosa now or at least bring Barden back. Thurston Sucks.
nice work.
"I've played a couple of hundred games of tic-tac-toe with my little daughter and she hasn't beaten me yet. I've always had to win. I've got to win." - Bob Gibson
we really need a 3B
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 26, 2009 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Yea
I think the Rays have a guy they’d might consider getting rid of if we gave them Thurston.
Get DeRosa now or at least bring Barden back. Thurston Sucks.
he's gritty enought to git r done
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 26, 2009 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions
and two new corner OF's
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
Can we bring Mateo up on July 2?
I’d take a 16-year old over two of the guys we have.
Get DeRosa now or at least bring Barden back. Thurston Sucks.
What I didn't like
(on top of Thurston’s ineptitude) is Wainer blowing through the first two guys, then nibbling around Mauer and Morneau. I know they’re great and some of those calls were close, but sheesh! It’s like he was too afraid to really challenge them.
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Ball 4 to Morneau
was no way to challenge a guy or at least nibble at a corner
Yadi swings and hits a high fly ball... Endy Chavez goes back, to the track, to the wall... ITS A GUNNER!! Yadi gives St. Louis the lead in the top of the ninth!
joe mauer is awesome, he should be careful
marneau can be gotten out, he shouldn’t have been so careful. hopefully he learned that
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
Wainwright is awesome too
And he has the stuff to get both of them out.
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by RunninRedbird on Jun 26, 2009 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions
2-for-41
last couple of games for our OF
Yadi swings and hits a high fly ball... Endy Chavez goes back, to the track, to the wall... ITS A GUNNER!! Yadi gives St. Louis the lead in the top of the ninth!
I knew we should have traded him last year when his value was at its ceiling
Get DeRosa now or at least bring Barden back. Thurston Sucks.
No, I said that in the offseason
Get DeRosa now or at least bring Barden back. Thurston Sucks.
you were wrong then
and you’re wrong now. Give the guy some time.
- "I went at it and didn’t slow down, so it kind of bounced off me." -Lil' Dunc
That's the thing I keep telling myself
A lot of our guys are struggling right now, but we haven’t even reached the halfway point yet. People wrote off Carlos Delgado early last season, then three months later he was being called an MVP candidate. Not saying Ank, Luddy, or any of the other guys who are struggling will make that kind of turnaround. But, there is still plenty of time for them to be productive players.
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by RunninRedbird on Jun 26, 2009 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah but Ank ain't delgado & neither is Luddy
they haven’t done what he’s done. and to expect them to isn’t smart is it? it’s really hard for me to see them doing anything positive for the team any time soon.
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
Did you not read my last two sentences?
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by RunninRedbird on Jun 26, 2009 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions
They each have only had one good season.
Get DeRosa now or at least bring Barden back. Thurston Sucks.
I really wanted to trade Ankiel for Escobar, which was a rumor
and that would have been lovely
Get DeRosa now or at least bring Barden back. Thurston Sucks.
Albert is ridiculous
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
weakpopoutWick makes my liver sad
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
I'm beginning to wonder wtf happened in April
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 26, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions
wow
one beer down in under an inning. we need new outfielders!
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 26, 2009 8:40 PM EDT reply actions
at least its not Welley
otherwise we’d be at least 3 in each
by Expatcardfan on Jun 26, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions
who the hell's bright idea was it to have day games this weekend?
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
weekends should always be day games, in my opinion
by Expatcardfan on Jun 26, 2009 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions
not when hell opened their door & let the heat out
and not when Fox screws me outta seeing saturday games
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
by gdm426 on Jun 26, 2009 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
saturdays in St Louis this time of year
should always be night games, In my opiooion
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
wow, that's not going to be fun at all
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
i was in an outdoor wedding in STL almost exactly 1 year ago
midwestern weddings should be banned for the summer months. may or earlier, or september or later, please.
by Expatcardfan on Jun 26, 2009 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions
That's what the heat index
has been here. Besides, you get to live in Austin.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
my aunt told me yesterday the city asked the Cards to make it a night game because of the heat
have any of you locals heard that as well?
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
Dan just said its still at noon.
Get DeRosa now or at least bring Barden back. Thurston Sucks.
in my opionion
if you don’t have at least one heat stroke a summer, you just aren’t living right.
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
look towards the top of the thread
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 26, 2009 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions
that was pretty lucky
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 26, 2009 8:46 PM EDT reply actions
finish him already Adam, you can't pitch all night
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
nicely done
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 26, 2009 8:49 PM EDT reply actions
.292 OBP for Dick
I just threw up in my mouth a little bit
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truly awful
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 26, 2009 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions
That's not even a good BATTING AVERAGE
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 26, 2009 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Wuh?
Since when in .292 not a good BA?
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by RunninRedbird on Jun 26, 2009 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah!
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 26, 2009 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions
It's not bad
But it’s not good. BA isn’t a good stat anyways, but I’d consider .300+ good.
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 26, 2009 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't put much stock in BA either
But to me:
.300+ Great
.275 – .299 Good
.250 – .274 Acceptable
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by RunninRedbird on Jun 26, 2009 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Hamels just got tossed
he isn’t very good this year
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 26, 2009 8:50 PM EDT reply actions
Meh
I’d still take him. 3.64 FIP
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by RunninRedbird on Jun 26, 2009 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions
3-1 brew crew in the 4th
our days as leader in the central are numbered
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
Thursty's going to strike out and then spring back to the dugout so he can stay on the team
Get DeRosa now or at least bring Barden back. Thurston Sucks.
sprint
Get DeRosa now or at least bring Barden back. Thurston Sucks.
Spring works too
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by RunninRedbird on Jun 26, 2009 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Seriously
I was just wondering in the shower if he’s always sprinted to first after a walk or did he talk to Eckstein after he signed this offseason? “Seriously, sprint after a walk, they will LOVE you.”
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 26, 2009 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Why were you thinking of Joe Thurston while in the shower? ;)
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by RunninRedbird on Jun 26, 2009 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions
No comment
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 26, 2009 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Az won't let us think of Skippy
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
Shiiiit.
Az has no control over my mind.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
i thought Ank sauntered around your pretty head all day?
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
Nah...
He’s too pretty for me.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
the younger generation loves their pretty boys
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
When I was
20 I thought he was hot. I think liking pretty boys is something many women grow out of. I know I did.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
I think we all fell for his charms.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
My sister was 16 at the time
And she was OBSESSED with him
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by RunninRedbird on Jun 26, 2009 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I think about
baseball while in the shower… Keeps me entertained. I even think about Cardinal baseball while driving… which is probably not a good idea
Yadi swings and hits a high fly ball... Endy Chavez goes back, to the track, to the wall... ITS A GUNNER!! Yadi gives St. Louis the lead in the top of the ninth!
you got the first half right
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
When's Joe's wife going to have another kid?
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
dfa
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 26, 2009 8:56 PM EDT reply actions
who are you even talking about?
the whole team? you might be on to something . . .
On with the (good) youth movement!
I'm out fellas
Gotta go to Athfest. As tempting as it is to stay here and watch us get 1-hit by Glen F. Perkins, I’m gonna go listen to some music. Have a nice night.
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
may your drinks be cold, and the women be plentiful
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
I know way to many hot married women
I need a time machine
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 26, 2009 8:59 PM EDT reply actions
Colby making it look easy out there
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 26, 2009 9:00 PM EDT reply actions
the lazy punk didn't dive!
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
HOLY HELL WHAT A GUN
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
So
that’s why we keep Ank
Yadi swings and hits a high fly ball... Endy Chavez goes back, to the track, to the wall... ITS A GUNNER!! Yadi gives St. Louis the lead in the top of the ninth!
Holy shiz!
I just turned on the game, saw that throw, and opened my internet browser as soon as I could. Amazing throw, Dick!
defy, cards, defy. hey logic --- you suck.
did Yadda tag him?
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
No need to
Throw was right on the money
Yadi swings and hits a high fly ball... Endy Chavez goes back, to the track, to the wall... ITS A GUNNER!! Yadi gives St. Louis the lead in the top of the ninth!
Twins announcer,
unaware the mic was still on, said “He (Ankiel) never threw them that well on the mound…” before being cut off.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
so many quips, so little time
but i’ll take that throw anyday
by Expatcardfan on Jun 26, 2009 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions
ank just needs a mound in the OF
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 26, 2009 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
I came up with that one over a year ago
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 26, 2009 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions
like i said, Bert almost never disappoints
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
I told you guys he could throw it from there
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 26, 2009 9:02 PM EDT reply actions
Dick is strong.
It is ashame Ank didn’t start and stay an outfielder. If he had the experience he would be wicked good as a hitter and a fielder.
"Rasmus doesn't hit lefties. Instead he bashes them over the head with their own bleeding arm he just raced to the mound to rip off before the ball arrives to the plate. He then smashes that baseball with the pitchers bloody arm over the wall because he does not hit lefites he bashes them." Ted Lilly
I wonder if there could be a DH for an outfielder
have ank play OF, wallace bat
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 26, 2009 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions
and a pinch runner for Yadda too
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
He is an athlete
no doubt about that
Yadi swings and hits a high fly ball... Endy Chavez goes back, to the track, to the wall... ITS A GUNNER!! Yadi gives St. Louis the lead in the top of the ninth!
IMO
It’s a shame he couldn’t keep his shit together as a pitcher.
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by RunninRedbird on Jun 26, 2009 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Not if they're lefties
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by RunninRedbird on Jun 26, 2009 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions
no.
no i do not want to see your tattoo
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
Very nice.... oh and...
Pujols is Ridiculous!
"Rasmus doesn't hit lefties. Instead he bashes them over the head with their own bleeding arm he just raced to the mound to rip off before the ball arrives to the plate. He then smashes that baseball with the pitchers bloody arm over the wall because he does not hit lefites he bashes them." Ted Lilly
that wasn't a strike, tyler
no worries
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 26, 2009 9:07 PM EDT reply actions
Oh well
quick inning… Perkins? Really?
Yadi swings and hits a high fly ball... Endy Chavez goes back, to the track, to the wall... ITS A GUNNER!! Yadi gives St. Louis the lead in the top of the ninth!
My last comment...
How can you have Pujols and suck at scoring?
We are looking like the Giants when they had Bonds for the last few years. We will make the playoffs but unless Wallace,Mateo.& Miller all go straight to the majors with much success we won’t last long in the post season. I hope I am wrong. It is ashame because a player like Pujols only comes along once in a lifetime and we should build around him and screw the future unless they can promise us another Pujols in 5 years.
"Rasmus doesn't hit lefties. Instead he bashes them over the head with their own bleeding arm he just raced to the mound to rip off before the ball arrives to the plate. He then smashes that baseball with the pitchers bloody arm over the wall because he does not hit lefites he bashes them." Ted Lilly
I was thinking that too
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 26, 2009 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah. Your never gonna get a better player to build around than Albert.
If you can’t build a dynasty around Pujols then you should just resign. How many more years do we have and how long till these kids fill in? Sieze the day cause no matter how good your core player is he has only a finite exsistance.
If you can’t commit to help the games best hitter win some championships now then lets just get it over with and trade him now.
"Rasmus doesn't hit lefties. Instead he bashes them over the head with their own bleeding arm he just raced to the mound to rip off before the ball arrives to the plate. He then smashes that baseball with the pitchers bloody arm over the wall because he does not hit lefites he bashes them." Ted Lilly
The worse thing is
that Pujols has expressed his desire to reamin with the Cardinals unless we stop becoming a competitive team. If we do not build around Pujols and get players to hit around Pujols and protect him, he might leave (which is the thing I fear the most in this world besides… bees)
Yadi swings and hits a high fly ball... Endy Chavez goes back, to the track, to the wall... ITS A GUNNER!! Yadi gives St. Louis the lead in the top of the ninth!
oddly enough
we ARE a competitive team right now, it just doesn’t seem like it. we shall see though…
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 26, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions
If we DO make it to the playoffs w/ only Albert hitting all season
It’ll just expand his legacy to the nth degree. Freaking machine!
No longer patiently awaiting. Raz has arrived.
by RunninRedbird on Jun 26, 2009 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions
He has 70 RBIs
around an offense that is.. well, none too shabby to say the least. Imagine his current form in an offense like May…
Yadi swings and hits a high fly ball... Endy Chavez goes back, to the track, to the wall... ITS A GUNNER!! Yadi gives St. Louis the lead in the top of the ninth!
I think you mean April
Yes, his numbers would be disgustingly high
No longer patiently awaiting. Raz has arrived.
by RunninRedbird on Jun 26, 2009 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions
April, yes
Sorry, it’s the narcotics…
Yadi swings and hits a high fly ball... Endy Chavez goes back, to the track, to the wall... ITS A GUNNER!! Yadi gives St. Louis the lead in the top of the ninth!
Understandable when watching this offense
No longer patiently awaiting. Raz has arrived.
by RunninRedbird on Jun 26, 2009 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Today's broadcast has been circling
Rasmus. How are his chances looking for ROY?
Yadi swings and hits a high fly ball... Endy Chavez goes back, to the track, to the wall... ITS A GUNNER!! Yadi gives St. Louis the lead in the top of the ninth!
make it 45
Yadi swings and hits a high fly ball... Endy Chavez goes back, to the track, to the wall... ITS A GUNNER!! Yadi gives St. Louis the lead in the top of the ninth!
pujols
unleash the beast
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 26, 2009 9:16 PM EDT reply actions
Another retarded point...
Get a god damn Left handed pitcher to throw batting practice. I am tired of conceding games of Left handers because the staff doesn’t think it is a big deal to prepare for Left handed starters. With so many Left handed hitters you might want to get them some exposure to Left handed pitchers in non game situations so they are prepared for the game.
I am tired of watching this team get shutdown by nobody/somebody LH starters.
"Rasmus doesn't hit lefties. Instead he bashes them over the head with their own bleeding arm he just raced to the mound to rip off before the ball arrives to the plate. He then smashes that baseball with the pitchers bloody arm over the wall because he does not hit lefites he bashes them." Ted Lilly
One more thing....Who the f@#@k is this god damn LH starter that is shutting us down? If I had a series coming up against us I would throw every unknown LH starter I have in the minors/majors at them every time.
"Rasmus doesn't hit lefties. Instead he bashes them over the head with their own bleeding arm he just raced to the mound to rip off before the ball arrives to the plate. He then smashes that baseball with the pitchers bloody arm over the wall because he does not hit lefites he bashes them." Ted Lilly
His name is Perkins
Glenn Perkins
Yadi swings and hits a high fly ball... Endy Chavez goes back, to the track, to the wall... ITS A GUNNER!! Yadi gives St. Louis the lead in the top of the ninth!
i used to like Perkins restaurants
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
don't they give you the giant caraffe of coffee?
those things got me through college
by Expatcardfan on Jun 26, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions
it was either them or ihop, i can't remeber which. it's been years since i been to either
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
I was really suprised that
Leyland didn’t let Willis throw against the Cards. Nothing like feeling like Cy Young for a day for a confidence boost.
wicked pitch wainer!
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 26, 2009 9:22 PM EDT reply actions
luckily cubs took prior instead of mauer
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 26, 2009 9:23 PM EDT reply actions
Did you know that Albert
has never been below .300 this year?
Yadi swings and hits a high fly ball... Endy Chavez goes back, to the track, to the wall... ITS A GUNNER!! Yadi gives St. Louis the lead in the top of the ninth!
most impressive
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 26, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions
you are watching the wrong game if you want runs
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
hopefully this inning will prove you wrong
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 26, 2009 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions
what did I miss?
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 26, 2009 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions
he got a hit, nice play in the field
he may as well walk off now while on top
by Expatcardfan on Jun 26, 2009 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions
then retire?
Yadi swings and hits a high fly ball... Endy Chavez goes back, to the track, to the wall... ITS A GUNNER!! Yadi gives St. Louis the lead in the top of the ninth!
ah
my feed is waaay behind. that rockies game can’t be topped though, and he almost hit for the cycle earlier this year
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 26, 2009 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Sawasdee khrob, CN. Ank actually hit the ball? Pretty soon the game will be delayed for snowfall
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What is wrong with K Greene? Why in the world is Thursty playing??
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what is wrong with
Barden/Boog/anybody else who has a pulse? Why in the world is Thursty playing??
by Expatcardfan on Jun 26, 2009 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions
don't go away mad thursty, just go away
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
ARGH
Damn. you. Thurston
Yadi swings and hits a high fly ball... Endy Chavez goes back, to the track, to the wall... ITS A GUNNER!! Yadi gives St. Louis the lead in the top of the ninth!
See? if the Cardinals want to be aggressive in signing Mateo or Sano?
Get DeRosa now or at least bring Barden back. Thurston Sucks.
I wonder how Glaus feels about all this
Yadi swings and hits a high fly ball... Endy Chavez goes back, to the track, to the wall... ITS A GUNNER!! Yadi gives St. Louis the lead in the top of the ninth!
go go Glauszilla
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 26, 2009 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions
like he's getting paid out the ass for being on vacation all year
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
I like Thurston for the first week of the season and it has been on down hill from there.
and it has been on down hill from there.
Get DeRosa now or at least bring Barden back. Thurston Sucks.
9 runs in the last 4 games... 2.25 per game... We are out of this now...
I stood where no man goes...
heh
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 26, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions
not for long
Get DeRosa now or at least bring Barden back. Thurston Sucks.
Brewers are winning?
I was hoping Cain was going to shut them down…
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 26, 2009 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions
not for long
the brew crew are beating up the gmen up in cheeseville
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
Game's over . .. . warm up Larue and bring Motte in to catch. . .
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The Twins just scored their 3rd run of the game...
the game is officially over cuz the Cards can’t seem to score more than 1 run agame.
And they had to wait
to do that until Two And a Half Men ends… Now I don’t want to watch the game and I have nothing to watch on TV!
Yadi swings and hits a high fly ball... Endy Chavez goes back, to the track, to the wall... ITS A GUNNER!! Yadi gives St. Louis the lead in the top of the ninth!
I've switched to watching the Memphis Redbirds gameday
Wallace is hitting over .270 now.
Get DeRosa now or at least bring Barden back. Thurston Sucks.
yeah
he has like a 12 game hit streak
but i bet has to bring it to like .350 to get a look before september
.389 vrs. Lefties...
Yadi swings and hits a high fly ball... Endy Chavez goes back, to the track, to the wall... ITS A GUNNER!! Yadi gives St. Louis the lead in the top of the ninth!
goddamn it
I wanted a W tonight, at least something would go right
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 26, 2009 9:40 PM EDT reply actions
apropos to nothing... Albert's trip to Santana's barber
The new chin line: yes or no?
Not that Albert needs advice from mere mortals.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Is it a goatee?
If it’s still that weird full beard that ended above his jaw line, than it’s his worst beard ever.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
agreed
But he’s still Albert, and therefore still sexy.
by peach concrete on Jun 26, 2009 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Without a doubt.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
me and tacklebox were just texting about this
“he looks like some choad from jersey shore”
but yeah, it’s albert…
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 26, 2009 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions
no one ever texts me
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
email me the cell phone texting number thing
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 26, 2009 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions
he should just shave or let it grow for a while
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 26, 2009 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
He never keeps one
look for long. It’ll be gone soon.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
that's a very good point
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 26, 2009 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Are you saying he can't commit (to a long term contract...)?
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jun 26, 2009 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm saying
he has no hair on his head and he experiments with his beard. He isn’t scared to commit to the Cardinals.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
NO
bad chin thing
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 26, 2009 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Ugh..
Slowey vrs. Colonel tomorrow
Yadi swings and hits a high fly ball... Endy Chavez goes back, to the track, to the wall... ITS A GUNNER!! Yadi gives St. Louis the lead in the top of the ninth!
Losing Carp and AW...
starts is a good way to lose many games in a row. This team is going to tank. Thurston is the new Esteban Yan. He’s the symbol of summer misery.
KC seems like sooooo long ago
This offense is just awful.
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and that was just a glimmer of hope
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 26, 2009 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Trey Hearne, the pitcher for the Springfield Cardinals
just hit an inside-the-park HR
Get DeRosa now or at least bring Barden back. Thurston Sucks.
they could have done that after the 1st inning
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
3 runs souhldn't seem insurmountable
but it does
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 26, 2009 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions
shouldn't
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 26, 2009 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions
and unfortunately
it’s welley tomorrow (here’s hoping he somehow turns it around)
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 26, 2009 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Do they know that Welly is on the mound?
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So you think a 2-run walk-off HR?
Get DeRosa now or at least bring Barden back. Thurston Sucks.
I'm about to leave
they will probably start scoring then ;)
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 26, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions
It's even more embarassing to the 21 teams who are, for the time being, have a lower winning % than us
Get DeRosa now or at least bring Barden back. Thurston Sucks.
is Tony trying to hurt Adam?
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
off topic - I know
But are we stuck with this team. Is there any chance the Cards make a play for a big bat. Just curious what people think. Personally I dont think its happening.
As has been said before here
this team is need of more than just one big bat right now.
The guys on this team (Ludwick, Ankiel, Duncan) need to start producing.
"Fortune favors the bold!" - Virgil
by player2bnamedl8r on Jun 26, 2009 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree.
But just curious if you think the Cards will make a move for an impact bat. Like I said before, I dont think help is coming.
I don't feel like the FO will make a move this season
until the other impact bats in this lineup start producing. Just my opinion.
"Fortune favors the bold!" - Virgil
by player2bnamedl8r on Jun 26, 2009 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Albert Pujols is ridiculous
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
Well...
any chance we can experience a ….
Ridiculous Matt Holliday!
"Rasmus doesn't hit lefties. Instead he bashes them over the head with their own bleeding arm he just raced to the mound to rip off before the ball arrives to the plate. He then smashes that baseball with the pitchers bloody arm over the wall because he does not hit lefites he bashes them." Ted Lilly
Has anyone noticed that the Cardinals don't hit much?
I mean, they really don’t. They need SOMEONE to wake up. I really don’t care who…just SOMEONE.
Dan: That would be like making a trade for a great player…WITHOUT having to make a trade!!!
Al: You know, it really would.
RBN8206: FOR THE LOVE OF GOD ENOUGH!!!
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jun 26, 2009 9:57 PM EDT reply actions
Dear Favorite Player of the Robot,
Please break out of your slump this at bat. I humbly request a double but will settle for a walk.
Yours truly,
azru
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I was on B-Ref the other day..
…and I noticed you followed through on your committment to purchasing Colby’s page. I saw it and laughed evil-ly. That’s a word, right? Sure. Anyway my daughter thought I was wacko.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jun 26, 2009 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
heck yes I did
I checked that site daily for weeks before it came available.
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I once tried
To explain why I was laughing at a VEB comment to a quasi-GF. This effort did not make me look very good.
Not afraid to nitpick
I forget exactly but something to do with Duncan's defense
It was very baseball dorky and in retrospect impossible to explain to a non-baseball dork.
Not afraid to nitpick
that.... is ridiculous
But not quite Albert ridiculous.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
this is the inning
I’m outta here
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 26, 2009 10:03 PM EDT reply actions
Listening to the game from the other room. I thought that Colby hit one about 600 feet. Alas the excitiement. . .
was generated by a friggin’ bunt. That is an operational definition of pathetic. . .
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even the wind loves Albert
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
not that it helped, he still popped up
there goes a best chance of scoring any runs
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
Ank's on deck. Over-under on him swinging at the first pitch? Over-under on a K, pop up or weak grounder?
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I'm calling a bloop to left
(too easy to call a K)
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jun 26, 2009 10:08 PM EDT reply actions
If you're a "very streaky hitter, with few positive streaks"
doesn’t that just make you a bad hitter?
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This team couldn't hit its way out of a wet paper bag
I mean, as far as I can tell this guy is just tossing 88 mph fastballs and some changeups and some curves and the only hits they’ve had are two solid hits by Ankiel, a bunt by Mr. Cheese, and some kind of damn thing down the line by El Hombre.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jun 26, 2009 10:09 PM EDT reply actions
well i'll be damned,,,,
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
man
ludwick is almost a sure out right now…. i could almost imagine tony ph’ing waino for him (ala freese)
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by FredbirdisaDork on Jun 26, 2009 10:10 PM EDT reply actions
It seems we live by the Mang and die by the Mang.
I guess I can live with that since it could be worse.
I mean we could “live by the Bradley,Soriano,Fielder, Berkman, Utley, etc…” and die by the “live by the Bradley,Soriano,Fielder, Berkman, Utley, etc…”.
"Rasmus doesn't hit lefties. Instead he bashes them over the head with their own bleeding arm he just raced to the mound to rip off before the ball arrives to the plate. He then smashes that baseball with the pitchers bloody arm over the wall because he does not hit lefites he bashes them." Ted Lilly
Or be a Giants fan and live and die...
…offensively anyway, by Pablo Sandoval and Bengie Molina. So it could be WWWAAAYYY worse!
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jun 26, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
except they have fewer losses than us as things stand
so, get apu some help!
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
How nice to be wrong. . . but one will never go broke betting against the Cards' outfield
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how soon you forget that fukudome started last year
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by FredbirdisaDork on Jun 26, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
You did and I have no idea why
Get DeRosa now or at least bring Barden back. Thurston Sucks.
this just in, lots of teenage girls know how to use the internet
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
my sister still talks about when she got to shake his hand
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by FredbirdisaDork on Jun 26, 2009 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions
My husband met him.
Back in 2000, Ankiel tried to pick up my cousin at a bar.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
Probably around
100 lbs. :)
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
easy to pick upt then, eh?
In seriousness though, did she know who he was or was this a booty call kind of pick up?
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She knew who he was
and she turned him down. She liked older guys, and she was older than Rick.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
i'm old
just puttin it out there
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
I'm not sure you could make yourself any more available on this board.
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match.com is for suckers
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
i met my wife on e-harmony
too bad it doesn’t screen fan affiliations :)
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by FredbirdisaDork on Jun 26, 2009 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
it doesn't? well damn.
Do any of them??
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jun 26, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions
good for you both
i know a lot of people do the online dating thing
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
Let's not encourage any drastic activity,
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
She's married now.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
i have to admit spandts...
i had no idea you were female :)
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by FredbirdisaDork on Jun 26, 2009 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Really?
B/c it gets brought up pretty much every day.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
glad i made you laugh...
even though the last inning might have made you sad
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by FredbirdisaDork on Jun 26, 2009 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
i don't get the chance to read all the comments on a daily basis
don’t i look like an idiot :(
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by FredbirdisaDork on Jun 26, 2009 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Just playin.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
heh
i bet that’s a confidence shocker
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Not quite the confidence shocker as throwing wild pitch after wild pitch to the backstop
As a 20 year old in your first playoff game. And second playoff game.
Not afraid to nitpick
lucky you....
my sister is actually moving to the chicago area…. she is going to be in enemy territory for the next year or two… any suggestions for places to catch a cards game while she is up there?
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by FredbirdisaDork on Jun 26, 2009 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
OMG
Fan drops 12 feet from upper level
Man passes out, falls over railing, rushed to local hospital
at stlcardinals.com
Yadi swings and hits a high fly ball... Endy Chavez goes back, to the track, to the wall... ITS A GUNNER!! Yadi gives St. Louis the lead in the top of the ninth!
wow
im suprised that al hasnt started talking about it yet… j/k…. hopefully that person is ok
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by FredbirdisaDork on Jun 26, 2009 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
again?
Get DeRosa now or at least bring Barden back. Thurston Sucks.
again? are you serious?
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by FredbirdisaDork on Jun 26, 2009 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, there was an incident back in... April? I think
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by Yadi2Second on Jun 26, 2009 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
wow...
i was at a game back in july of ’06 against the dodgers and somebody died of heat exhaustion
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by FredbirdisaDork on Jun 26, 2009 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
or heat stroke or something... it was a bazillion degrees outside that day
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by FredbirdisaDork on Jun 26, 2009 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
two months ago a drunk fell from the upper deck
that article said the Cards couldn’t push back the start time. that’s a flat out lie. they could very easily do that, they just don’t want to
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
Glenn Perkins is a rock star.
We should trade DJ, Todd, and Wallace for him.
When Jamie Garcia comes back we will have two great Left Hander pitchers on the staff that can help the team practice to get ready to face lefites and “maybe act like they have seen one before so they can score some freaking runs against a lefthander once in awhile!”
"Rasmus doesn't hit lefties. Instead he bashes them over the head with their own bleeding arm he just raced to the mound to rip off before the ball arrives to the plate. He then smashes that baseball with the pitchers bloody arm over the wall because he does not hit lefites he bashes them." Ted Lilly
APu shall bat
in the ninth
Yadi swings and hits a high fly ball... Endy Chavez goes back, to the track, to the wall... ITS A GUNNER!! Yadi gives St. Louis the lead in the top of the ninth!
Thurston's hustling works
but just this once.
Why Joe, whyyyy.
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Dear Dan
Thurston’s had a rough not April.
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by azruavatar on Jun 26, 2009 10:20 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Nice.
I like that.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jun 26, 2009 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
what the hell is going on?
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
just when you think that Chris Duncan can't piss us off even more
he goes and gets a hit
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by FredbirdisaDork on Jun 26, 2009 10:22 PM EDT reply actions
Nice to see
him go the other way, too.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
Time to buy GM stock
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
AHHHHHHHHHHHH
I hate the bunt w/ no one fucking out. Please don’t give away outs here. Please don’t give away outs here.
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2 strikes now
so… maybe
Yadi swings and hits a high fly ball... Endy Chavez goes back, to the track, to the wall... ITS A GUNNER!! Yadi gives St. Louis the lead in the top of the ninth!
Big fucking surprise
WHAT A STUPID CALL FROM THE BENCH. TONY THIS WAS A [o0afg[aor3g BAD IDEA.
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ugh
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
piss poor pathetic at bat by greene
the girls on my church league slow pitch softball teams have better plate appearances than that (no offense intended to any women here)
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by FredbirdisaDork on Jun 26, 2009 10:24 PM EDT reply actions
it's time for a bunt rebellion
Jo-El’s basement. 10 o’clock. Bring chips. LaRue can gas the truck.
If Tony calls bad baseball DON’T DO IT.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
If I see another effing bunt here, I'm going to break something.
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crisis averted
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
that is worthy of breaking shit too
can we not take a sdfgl’jasng’qaipegnlkenrvb]p3b’lekrnb’qepirnqwe pitch
adfgpinsh’dnhlknb a’skn
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Yeah. What he said.
that is worthy of breaking shit too can we not take a sdfgl’jasng’qaipegnlkenrvb]p3b’lekrnb’qepirnqwe pitch
adfgpinsh’dnhlknb a’skn
"Rasmus doesn't hit lefties. Instead he bashes them over the head with their own bleeding arm he just raced to the mound to rip off before the ball arrives to the plate. He then smashes that baseball with the pitchers bloody arm over the wall because he does not hit lefites he bashes them." Ted Lilly
Wendy's has chinese food now?
there’s no way this won’t end badly
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
So my post-workout
Frosty is a bad idea?
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
Um...
Maybe. Depends.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jun 26, 2009 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions
unless she's using it to ice here knee
I’m gonna go with bad idea
;o)
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why would anyone get chinese food from a fast food burger joint?
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
because its way better than fast food
don’t you pay attention to the commercials?
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by FredbirdisaDork on Jun 26, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
WELL WHY THE HELL NOT!!!
Don’t you?
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jun 26, 2009 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions
clogging the bases
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by Yadi2Second on Jun 26, 2009 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
ball game
sorry to be pecimistic (spelling)
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by FredbirdisaDork on Jun 26, 2009 10:26 PM EDT reply actions
there's no one on the bench
ryan’s wrist is bothering him
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where's KBot?
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
that's not going to help his confidence one bit
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
Pinch hit with Hawksworth
Oh wait that’s right we have a pitcher we don’t use on the roster.
Not afraid to nitpick
what hitter
in memphis would better fill that roster spot?
by prophetjohn on Jun 26, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
amaury marti
Yadi swings and hits a high fly ball... Endy Chavez goes back, to the track, to the wall... ITS A GUNNER!! Yadi gives St. Louis the lead in the top of the ninth!
Craig?
Hoffpauir is hitting and he would fulfill TLR’s dream of a team of MIFers. Hawksworth serves zero purpose the way he’s been “used”.
Not afraid to nitpick
Not just MIF's...
…small white bad nohit poor glove MIF’s.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jun 26, 2009 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
and similarly
we don’t have much use for another joe barden type bat
the 13th pitcher might come in handy in a 13 inning game
by prophetjohn on Jun 26, 2009 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Not having Skip's 68 OPS+ in against a LHP would benefit in about 25% of his PAs
Not afraid to nitpick
kaheel was on the bench
not like we didn’t have anyone to throw in there
by prophetjohn on Jun 26, 2009 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Remember when we had to have a long man in the pen
and how vigorously it was defended by some on the board. We’ve had a reliever pitch more than 2 innings twice this year IIRC.
Mozeliak should be ashamed of this roster construction.
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Yeah it's garbage
I’m sick and tired of watching this team make wacko moves that can be logically tied to not-having an extra bat on the bench.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jun 26, 2009 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
oh okay
so like
um
wait
drawing a blank here.
i guess we could call up stav and let him stagnate on the bench again
by prophetjohn on Jun 26, 2009 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
the last guy on the bench
isn’t going to play a lot. But the last guy in an eight man bullpen is never going to pitch, unless the game is completely deleveraged. At least there is a situation for which Stavinoha might be suited in a close game.
true
but i think tlr is making a statement about what is available. i find myself inclined to agree until wallace is ready
by prophetjohn on Jun 26, 2009 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
if he just "made a statement"
then he needs to be on a plane back to san francisco tomorrow morning. He had a power-hitting righty on the bench and didn’t use him against a LOOGY? With 2 men on and one out?
- "I went at it and didn’t slow down, so it kind of bounced off me." -Lil' Dunc
by SleepyCA on Jun 26, 2009 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
not having someone on the bench
is also indefensible.
Thank GOD we have 13 pitchers, to get us through this crisis.
- "I went at it and didn’t slow down, so it kind of bounced off me." -Lil' Dunc
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
just popped a vein or blood vessel, not sure
Yadi swings and hits a high fly ball... Endy Chavez goes back, to the track, to the wall... ITS A GUNNER!! Yadi gives St. Louis the lead in the top of the ninth!
Ay yi yi
If you’re going to bunt, and I’m not saying you should, because you shouldn’t, GET THE DAGGONE BUNT DOWN. Nothing worse than handing away an out and getting nothing out of it. I mean, if he gets it down at least the tying run is at second.
…and now we have a DP when they set up a lefty/lefty matchup on Skip and he swings at the FIRST mother loving pitch. I’d almost rather lose 11-0 at this point! This is killing me.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jun 26, 2009 10:27 PM EDT reply actions
I figured Greene for schu was obvious
I forgot about our manager
"I remember once talking to one guy on the Cardinals and asking him what Pujols was like as a teammate. He said something that’s really special, if you think about it. He said: "Albert is so good that you feel like you let him down when you screw up." I thought that had to be the ultimate line that could ever be said about a ballplayer. I build my baseball team around that ballplayer."
by Smokin Turkeys on Jun 26, 2009 10:28 PM EDT reply actions
this dang team frustrates me to no end
it has the potential to be so good… freaking a
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by FredbirdisaDork on Jun 26, 2009 10:32 PM EDT reply actions
quite honestly...
he runs his flipping yapper so much i quit letting myself be suprised by the dog excrement that comes out… it really reminds me of a certain episode of south park
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by FredbirdisaDork on Jun 26, 2009 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
yes
very funny
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by FredbirdisaDork on Jun 26, 2009 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
facial hair update (for those not watching)
Motte apparently nicked one side, over-corrected, and then just had to mow it down.
Franklin’s remains virgin forest.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
sad when this is the color commentary we get during a 3-1 game don't you think?
but i digress
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by FredbirdisaDork on Jun 26, 2009 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I like to keep track of the forestry
Dunno why. It’s real interesting this year.
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by Yadi2Second on Jun 26, 2009 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
in a 10-1 game i agree
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by FredbirdisaDork on Jun 26, 2009 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
It would be oddly fitting if we get to Nathan
On the other hand, it’d also be very fitting if we didn’t.
Not afraid to nitpick
No matter what happens, I expected it
Hrabosky and I have been talking to each other a lot lately.
Not afraid to nitpick
Can we please stop sucking, offensively?
thanks
I want to be the no-talent ass clown!
by RosevilleRedbird on Jun 26, 2009 10:38 PM EDT reply actions
what? only two bases?
whippersnappers
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
why didn't he stop at first!
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
language PLEASE ;)
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by FredbirdisaDork on Jun 26, 2009 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm sure Al will blame Rasmus for something
If this goes awry.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jun 26, 2009 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
For how long is FSN going to go with a broken radar gun
87 on a 95 mph fastball c’mon.
Not afraid to nitpick
Let's break Nathan's...
…brain. That would be cool.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jun 26, 2009 10:40 PM EDT reply actions
ew?
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jun 26, 2009 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
it would be a Thriller wouldn't it?
(rim shot)
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by FredbirdisaDork on Jun 26, 2009 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
it's takes a smooth criminal to take Nathan deep
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
apparently we get billy jean
i still love you Albert
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by FredbirdisaDork on Jun 26, 2009 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
screw him, do it for VEB
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
DO IT FOR FARRAH
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jun 26, 2009 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Damn
That was Bad.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jun 26, 2009 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
poop
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
see, the mj jinxes it.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
for once
i agree with al
albert needs to chill and focus on swinging at strikes
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
This team went to shit when it was decided that they needed to be
more aggressive.
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I seriously think this team is TRYING to get the first 27 pitch game in baseball history.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jun 26, 2009 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Nathan caught that with his belly button
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jun 26, 2009 10:43 PM EDT reply actions
ouch, Luddy smoked him
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
we suck
we really really suck right now… i really hate to say it… where the heck is the patience we saw last year?
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by FredbirdisaDork on Jun 26, 2009 10:43 PM EDT reply actions
I'm blaming TLR
He said the team needed to be more aggressive while they were pasting the ball all April, so they started wailing away
That may not be the reason, but it makes me feel better anyway.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jun 26, 2009 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
i see most of the team still swings at the first pitch
crap- learn to work a count…
I want to be the no-talent ass clown!
by RosevilleRedbird on Jun 26, 2009 10:43 PM EDT reply actions
they look like me playing video game baseball
maybe thats how they are scouting pitchers now…. it would make sense to me
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by FredbirdisaDork on Jun 26, 2009 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
1 Man teams never win except in Bowling.
"Rasmus doesn't hit lefties. Instead he bashes them over the head with their own bleeding arm he just raced to the mound to rip off before the ball arrives to the plate. He then smashes that baseball with the pitchers bloody arm over the wall because he does not hit lefites he bashes them." Ted Lilly
golf?
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
need a caddy
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jun 26, 2009 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
No. I'm good.
I might play next week but not right now. I am watching baseball.
"Rasmus doesn't hit lefties. Instead he bashes them over the head with their own bleeding arm he just raced to the mound to rip off before the ball arrives to the plate. He then smashes that baseball with the pitchers bloody arm over the wall because he does not hit lefites he bashes them." Ted Lilly
Yes please!
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
i think i'll pass
last time i played golf with a married lass, i had to eat through a straw for the next 3 months
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
Oh, sure
Fastball in the dirt, running away, on 2-0. Great pitch. Seriously Rick
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jun 26, 2009 10:45 PM EDT reply actions
anyone else hear a dog barking outta their tv?
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
thats Al Hrabosky
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by FredbirdisaDork on Jun 26, 2009 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
you know...
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jun 26, 2009 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I fail to understand how this team can be in first
they look terrible
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just wait..
we are allowing the cubs to hang around until they get their big gun back and make a trade…. unbelievable
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by FredbirdisaDork on Jun 26, 2009 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
i could see them trading harden for a bat
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by FredbirdisaDork on Jun 26, 2009 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
maple or ash?
…sorry. I had to. It’s the Cubs.
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by Yadi2Second on Jun 26, 2009 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
well played sir
i needed that.. im really fired up
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by FredbirdisaDork on Jun 26, 2009 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions
won't last long
mil and chi won’t tank forever
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hi, welcome to the NL Central
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jun 26, 2009 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
The NL in general is so pathetic
It feels like their isn’t one dominating team in baseball right now.
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 26, 2009 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Accident?
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jun 26, 2009 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
shocking
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
predictable
for rick
and for our offense overall
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i think this is where I am supposed to swear like a crazy Bradley.
I want to be the no-talent ass clown!
by RosevilleRedbird on Jun 26, 2009 10:47 PM EDT reply actions
i find some solace
that bradley is a cub
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yahtzee!!!
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jun 26, 2009 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Gah!
What. The. Hell. Are. You. Swinging. At.
I’m sitting here, and my wife who never played softball and watches the games in the sense that she sits there thinking about something else says “This pitch will not be anywhere near the strikezone and Ankiel will swing anyway.”
Sure enough.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jun 26, 2009 10:48 PM EDT reply actions
Is their anyone less clutch than Rick Ankiel?
I just feel like too many games have ended just the same way
Stat Whore
He is anti-clutch.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
i hope tony is really pissed off
seriously… get F%ckin mad and start yelling! Please for the love of God put some freaking spark in their bellies
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by FredbirdisaDork on Jun 26, 2009 10:50 PM EDT reply actions
so you're saying...
be more aggressive?
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jun 26, 2009 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
no.... im just saying get on their ass to start playing baseball the way that they are capable
quit doing stupid shit like swing at the first pitch when you have a chance to get a run home in the ninth (luddy) and get a freaking bunt down like a major leaguer (greene)…. play baseball correctly
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by FredbirdisaDork on Jun 26, 2009 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions
meh
if that ball that luddy hit didn’t hit the pitcher, he DOES get a run home.
Albert should have taken the walk, but then the ball that Luddy hit that should have been an RBI single except that it hit the pitcher is a double play.
Fuck the GOB.
- "I went at it and didn’t slow down, so it kind of bounced off me." -Lil' Dunc
but you're right, there's a lot of bad baseball right now
colb y not taking second on the WP, TG not getting the bunt down, TLR using his bench in the completely wrong fashion, Joe Thurston STILL getting starts at 3B, etc. Something has to be done.
- "I went at it and didn’t slow down, so it kind of bounced off me." -Lil' Dunc
I'd like to know
How Rick does swing at a low backdoor slider. If he’s sitting fastball then there’s no way you swing at that it’s starting a foot off the plate. If he’s sitting slider then you don’t swing at it. Logic fail
Not afraid to nitpick
See you're thinking
Rick goes up there and, well, I guess just does.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jun 26, 2009 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions
hes a pitcher
i really am starting to think that he is not a good hitter… it seems that he has been figured out
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by FredbirdisaDork on Jun 26, 2009 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I disagree with the idea that this team is awful.
Maybe we are just good enough that the only way we can lose is to face a shutdown closer. Cordero and Nathan are the cream of the crop. They make 9 innning games into 8 inning games.
The problem I have with this loss is the failure to score runs against the starter to avoid being put into the position of having to defy the Gods of Baseball in order to score a game winning run on an elite closer. Somebody needs to get some freaking scouting reports on these no names.
"Rasmus doesn't hit lefties. Instead he bashes them over the head with their own bleeding arm he just raced to the mound to rip off before the ball arrives to the plate. He then smashes that baseball with the pitchers bloody arm over the wall because he does not hit lefites he bashes them." Ted Lilly
Well as I said that is the problem I have with games like this. We need to score runs in those 8 innings to avoid being in the situation we were last night.
"Rasmus doesn't hit lefties. Instead he bashes them over the head with their own bleeding arm he just raced to the mound to rip off before the ball arrives to the plate. He then smashes that baseball with the pitchers bloody arm over the wall because he does not hit lefites he bashes them." Ted Lilly
It's the team...
It’s a miracle their record is so good.
They’ve got 2 hitters with OBP’s over .350. Which in my mind, is the minimum for a major league hitter. Or should be.
Of course, one is almost .500. So it that’s why they aren’t in last place. But it’s just a bad team…
Huh?
They had one run on four hits and like two walks. That’s 6 baserunners, give or take. SIX! That starter has a 5+ era and doesn’t throw hard enough to break glass. This isn’t a new thing either, as they’ve been scraping the bottom of the OBP barrel for two months, and the only times they’ve hit is when they face a horrible crew of Royals pitchers or when Marlins pitchers hang Ank curveballs. This team can’t and won’t score runs.
So what is your definition of bad?
VivaElBirdos...Scoring less, but more frequently since approximately 1903.
by redbirdnation8206 on Jun 26, 2009 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
he didn't say we aren't bad
he said we aren’t awful. lol.
This is truly embarrassing, though. We should be close to 50-25 right now, with the way our pitchers have performed.
- "I went at it and didn’t slow down, so it kind of bounced off me." -Lil' Dunc
so are we in a june swoon then?
SlamalamaJackADongWick cares very little about your draft pick standing-by gdm426
by FredbirdisaDork on Jun 26, 2009 11:02 PM EDT reply actions
More like a...
…May/June swoon.
VivaElBirdos...Scoring less, but more frequently since approximately 1903.
by redbirdnation8206 on Jun 26, 2009 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Saying that the Cardinals hit like shit is an insult to shit. Shit hits WWWAAAAYYYY better than this.
VivaElBirdos...Scoring less, but more frequently since approximately 1903.
by redbirdnation8206 on Jun 26, 2009 11:05 PM EDT reply actions
im out
SlamalamaJackADongWick cares very little about your draft pick standing-by gdm426
by FredbirdisaDork on Jun 26, 2009 11:05 PM EDT reply actions
Batting Aside.....
There are 3 truths to this years ballclub. One thing that we have come to expect of our Cardinals over the pas several years (whether winning or not) is that we had:
A.) Good defense (seriously, have we had a game without an error this year?)
B.) Good baserunning (* see Rasmus not advancing on the pitch that scooted away)
C.) Good fundamentals (* see Greene not getting the bunt down, setting up the double play).
This years club has yet to show me the little things that has made us a staple of success.
by One Flew Over The Cardinals Nest on Jun 26, 2009 11:18 PM EDT reply actions
I disagree...
the real reason the Cardinals having been successful is being in the worst division in baseball. If not in record, in talent.
That and having lucked into Pujols.
Those two factors still apply, which is why a team this bad can be in 1st place (or just out of it, as the case may be).
the NL central is the best division in the NL this year.
- "I went at it and didn’t slow down, so it kind of bounced off me." -Lil' Dunc
agree.
people tend to look at things myopically when making statements like this.
I have a very, umm...photographic brain. A lot like Ansel Adams but in color and with a lot more, uh.....insertion and pubic hair.
It's ridiculous.
I would rather bat myself, for ankiel. I haven’t hit off live pitching in like 10 years, but I think I could bloop one every once in a while. I never really bought into the whole clutch thing until watching Ankiel this year. If he does put the ball in play in a “clutch situation”, it’s a fuckin double play. Unbelievable! I have defended him till I can’t no more. He’s not totaly to blame for their lack of late inning success when down, but it seems like he is always batting in big moments and NEVER comes through. I have no stats to back this up in this drunken ramble but please, somebody give me some evidence that I am wrong.
Why wasn't Khalil Greene availible to pinch hit for
Skip goddamn Schumaker?
I came to the game late so I didn’t know if he had batted earlier or what.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 27, 2009 12:27 AM EDT reply actions
because tlr was "making a point".
Strauss is now saying that DeWitt is willing to trade luddy, Motte/perez/KMC, + prospect for Holliday, so I guess he got the point across.
I’d rather trade TLR for a bag of balls and let someone who wants to fucking win every game run the team.
- "I went at it and didn’t slow down, so it kind of bounced off me." -Lil' Dunc
If that's what he did
he should be fired.
If I sabotaged my workplace to get better equipment, I’d get fired.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 27, 2009 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Isn't this all speculation?
I have a very, umm...photographic brain. A lot like Ansel Adams but in color and with a lot more, uh.....insertion and pubic hair.
This is so fucking stupid
trade a cheap high upside OF’er who is struggling for a really expensive high upside OF’er who is struggling worse?
They should have cleaned house in 2008 and sent Tony with Walt. When you serve two masters, you get terrible garbage like this.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 27, 2009 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions
meh
i don’t see how holliday is struggling more than ludwick. and i don’t think ludwick’s upside is quite as high. holliday is a proven hitter who’s having just an okay year on a shitty club in a pitcher’s park.
i don’t think it’s necessarily a great deal, but i bet it helps the team
of course, it’s a waste if he’s not signed beyond this year
That's why I would rather they get Dunn
he would be a cheaper option and we would have him for at least another year.
We’ve got a long way to go and a short time to get there.
and
his atrocious defense makes him not much above replacement level. he makes duncan look like rasmus in left field and the only other positions he could occupy are either conveniently not up for grabs or non-existent in the national league
Well I was thinking Dunn would take Dunc's place
of course we all know Chris isn’t going anywhere so it’s just a pipe dream. I would take Dunn’s offense over Duncan any day of the week.
We’ve got a long way to go and a short time to get there.
of course he would take dunc's place
but the point is that his defense is so bad (like holy shit bad) that he has to hit that well to positively contribute to the team. he aint worth it. and might not even be available
Proven as what?
A product of his home park.
Holliday is currently mired in a 12-for-61 stretch with no homeruns.
If they trade for Holliday, that’s the only contract they can take on. He’ll account for $7 M on the books, which is roughly adding $5 million to payroll over all. That’s almost all the money they had left for adding players.
He won’t magically fix the offense, he will put the team in a worse situation financially going forward and we all know who he is replacing in the OF vs LHP. Colby Rasmus, not Chris or Rick.
Plus, we don’t even know who the prospect is. I’d imagine Beane sees that LaRussa is holding his breath and stomping his feet and will probably leverage us out of giving up Daryl Jones.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 27, 2009 1:44 AM EDT up reply actions
then by the same token
his current slump is a product of his home park. actually, i don’t buy either theory
they have more than $5mil in free payroll. i would estimate more like twice that
he won’t magically fix the offense, but he might provide a spark and make guys like albert not feel like they need to carry the whole team. and no, rasmus’ has plenty of job security. i’m sure he’ll still get days off, but i’m even more sure he’ll get 500 ABs
dj/wallace are not on the table. not a chance
Why can Matt Holliday suddenly turn his season around
and provide a spark, but Ryan Ludwick can’t?
Not only that, but this makes the bullpen weaker by trading a RH reliever. All it means is that Hawksworth will have a full-time job PLUS another Memphis reliever since we know Tony will keep 13 out there.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 27, 2009 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions
i don't recall saying
that luds won’t turn it around. but he has had one great year. holliday has hit for average and power multiple years. i don’t care to see ludwick go either, but he’s not getting the job done right now and might not ever be the force that he was in ‘08 again. i forsee him being a .260 25 hr guy here on out at best. maybe that’s all holliday pans out to be.
the argument against dealing a reliever is a losing one. there is plenty of depth in the RHRP department. hawksworth is likely to keep his current role. and tony’s 13 pitcher power play will no longer be necessary. he carries 13 pitchers because he doesn’t think there’s a hitter in memphis worth being on the bench. even if he does keep 13 pitchers, though, there are plenty of guys capable of filling the role. one jess todd comes to mind as being entirely likely
Matt Holliday has NOT been a proven hitter
he’s been proven to be above average at Coors Field. Outside of that, he’s shown to be about what you say. A .270, 25 HR hitter.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 27, 2009 2:03 AM EDT up reply actions
and Holliday has never hit more home runs than Luddy, in a season
even playing in colorado ;)
Holiday is, OTOH, probably the biggest boost we could make. But we need to acquire him WHILE keeping Ludwick and DJ, AND keeping enough dry powder to pick up DeRosa.
- "I went at it and didn’t slow down, so it kind of bounced off me." -Lil' Dunc
And no, Rasmus will sit
Tony will play Ankiel in CF, Duncan in LF and Holliday in RF.
Rasmus won’t play vs LHP.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 27, 2009 1:51 AM EDT up reply actions
I thought you just said the things Tony was doing now
was to prove a point and will no longer be necessary.
Which is it?
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 27, 2009 2:01 AM EDT up reply actions
actually read my posts, plz
i know that strawman sure does suck at arguing, but pay attention to me for sec if you’re going to respond to me
anyway, yeah, exactly. giving the second best hitter on the team and the future star cf playing time is exactly what i was talking about. he’ll bench albert too once this happens since he will no longer need to prove a point
Don't call yourself strawman
be more confident.
The 2nd best hitter on the team got pinch hit for yesterday by another LH-hitting OF’er late in a close game. Either that, or LaRussa forgot to fill out the lineup card properly. So, snark all you want, but there is clearly a lack of confidence still there.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 27, 2009 2:05 AM EDT up reply actions
i have a lack of confidence in him, too
and rightfully. he’s an unproven rookie who has shown signs of life and had deep slumps
but to state that swapping a righty OF for a different righty OF is somehow going to effect how tony handles his lefties is absurd. he’ll still make some retarded moves, but rasmus’ playing time isn’t going to decrease
It does effect Rasmus playing time
Do you honestly believe that LaRussa is going to put Mark McGwire-approved Matt Holliday into the ‘OF Rotation’ giving him a day off every 3 games?
And if he does, do you honestly think that Matt Holliday is going to re-sign with the Cardinals to play 122 games a year?
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 27, 2009 2:11 AM EDT up reply actions
i don't think
holliday is put on a rotation unless he struggles. i also don’t think ludwick would be on a rotation if he we getting on base anywhere near as well as he did last year or holliday is this year
Ludwick was put in the rotation in Game 2 of the season
his play has had nothing to do with it.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 27, 2009 2:19 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah
what was significant about april?
oh yeah, everyone on the team was hitting and we thought that everyone was going to pan out and we’d have immense depth. lots of people were calling for raz to start at AAA because he wouldn’t get any playing time with how well ank, luds and dunc were gonna hit.
i wonder if anything significant has changed since april 8th
What?
Ludwick was coming off an amazing season, one of the 3 best in baseball offensively last year and he couldn’t even get the start in the 2nd game of the season.
Even if Ludwick was hitting like Colby Rasmus has been hitting this month, he’d get benched. Rasmus is the 2nd best hitter on the team and even he can’t get in a full 9 for 3 straight days.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 27, 2009 2:25 AM EDT up reply actions
that amazes me
more and more, that amazes me. Couldn’t get the start in game 2 of the season. w. t. f.
it’s like TLR totally missed all of last year.
And I’ll never forgive TLR for not letting Luddy stay in the last game to get the ONE more hit he needed to hit .300 last year. That’s frigging managerial incompetence, right there.
- "I went at it and didn’t slow down, so it kind of bounced off me." -Lil' Dunc
"second best hitter"
isn’t that prestigious an honor on the st louis cardinals, though
ankiel was also coming off what was a career year where he was on pace to hit more HRs than ludwick before his season was derailed by injury
remember everyone was sure that all of ludwick, ankiel and duncan were going to hit 40 HRs and we still needed to find playing time for rasmus until we traded ankiel for an ace type pitcher straight up?
things change. and tony la russa still makes retarded decisions. benching rasmus in favor of duncan against lefties the majority of the time hasn’t been in will continue to not be one of those decisions. or it at least won’t be affected by the acquisition of a right handed hitter
I know I'll get ripped for saying this
but I would really like to see Adam Dunn batting behind Albert. I think it is time for Mo to pull the trigger on a deal to get us some type of HR/RBI bat to hit behind Albert.
We’ve got a long way to go and a short time to get there.
I still think that we will need another decent starter to make a second half push. I foresee another DL stint for one of our top 4 and Wellsemeyer is Wellsemeyer. The smart money says he gets shalaked again tomorrow.
by One Flew Over The Cardinals Nest on Jun 27, 2009 1:27 AM EDT reply actions
holy mother of ass,,,, what the hell MO?
do not trade Luddy, YP & Jones for matt fucking holliday. he’s slumping worse than Luddy, and he’s way more expensive. if Luddy can turn this slump around, he’ll once again be an all around better player. don’t do it just to make TLR & the idiots at the PD boards happy.
plus, didn’t you learn anything from the Mulder deal? don’t ever buy what Billy is selling. evar.
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
Holliday is worth buying
just not at that price.
- "I went at it and didn’t slow down, so it kind of bounced off me." -Lil' Dunc
that's the right Q to ask
the only answer is {best offer that is > a first round draft pick and a supp, minus $7M, minus what the draft picks cost to sign}. With risk built in (IE, what if the yanks sign H plus 2 other FA’s like last year or, H gets hurt and loses type A, etc).
There’s no way to know what anyone else is bidding, but I know no sane player is willing to plop a trade chip who hit 37 HR last year.
- "I went at it and didn’t slow down, so it kind of bounced off me." -Lil' Dunc
IF mo gives up Luddy
it has to be Luddy for H PLUS Oakland prospect, not the other way around. Mo is in the driving seat in this deal, he has to know that. beane made a bad deal for H, thinking he could either make a run for it this year (a reasonable risk, but didn’t happen) or trade him for + + + prospects. But + prospects are suddenly overvalued, not to mention + or ++, making guys like H undervalued on the trade market.
And that’s fine, because min value is always “draft pick plus supp, or 2 supps, etc”. Which is very valuable, to a GM whose fans think long-term. But Mo has to gauge the value and do what he can to get us to the post-season, this year AND next. And without Luddy, it gets harder and harder, going forward.
- "I went at it and didn’t slow down, so it kind of bounced off me." -Lil' Dunc
anything that doesn't include players the Cards can't afford to lose
Dick & Dunk should be on the way out, not a guy who’s just in a slump. i think it was sleepy that posted Luddy’s numbers from his two big slumps, and they look a lot like what is happening now.
i’d give up KMac, just not YP or AP. i don’t know what position players i’d part with
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
ap?
yeah mean luddy?
i think dunc, yp/kmac, two not-wallace-or-dj prospects is a better deal. but we’re not driving off a bridge here. luds probably isn’t going to hit at his ’08 level again
apple sauce = jason motte
so i just read strauss article, and i quote,
Such a package would probably include right fielder Ryan Ludwick and either reliever Jason Motte, Chris Perez or Kyle McClellan, plus a prospect.
the key word there is probably. for all we know, joe is talking out his pooper. MO himself has said he’s not trading a guy like Luddy, who’s just as good if not better than Holliday, and just as importantly under team control & a lot cheaper than Holliday. i know he said that because i saw it on a pregame earlier in the season. so hopefully joe is just speculating right now. at least i hope that’s what he’s doing. it’s what i’m telling myself so i can fall asleep soon.
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
Strauss? Talking out his pooper?
NFW.
His poopmeister, maybe, but never his pooper. That would be ridiculous.
- "I went at it and didn’t slow down, so it kind of bounced off me." -Lil' Dunc
i agree he's worth it, but the price has to be right
Billy always gets the better end of trades. except last season when he gave away Harden. that’s what i meant when i said don’t buy what he’s selling. not that Holliday is hurt like Mulder was.
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
That Harden deal still makes me scratch my head.
And thinking that if Beane can deal Harden for Matt Murton, Eric Patterson, and Sean Gallagher then why wouldn’t he trade Holliday for Duncan and a collection of guys?
Then again, he probably was trying to get rid of Harden before his arm fell off and only really wanted Gallagher (although I had heard he really wanted both Murton and Patterson, so who knows?)
I have a very, umm...photographic brain. A lot like Ansel Adams but in color and with a lot more, uh.....insertion and pubic hair.
Here’s why-the A’s almost never trade their prime pitching within the AL.
They also thought enough of Harden to send him somewhere he wanted to go. He picked the Cubs. He’s still injured a lot, but they have managed to keep him on the mound better than the A’s did.
She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.
really, i don't see why duncan isn't just as attractive as ludwick to the A's
neither are hitting. and dunc has an excuse for a temporary loss of power. plus he’s cheaper
I'd rather keep Luddy.....
Maybe they’d do something like Holliday and Ellis for Duncan, Jones, Perez, and another prospect that isn’t Boggs/Wallace.
Than you could run Holliday, Raz, and Luddy out there most days, with Ankiel filling in. Hopefully resign Holliday and have the same OF next year, and if Ank is cheap enough, resign him. Balances out the right/lefty some, and allows Luddy to hit down in the order.
Say you were standing with one foot in the oven and one foot in an ice bucket. According to the percentage people, you should be perfectly comfortable." - Manager Bobby Bragan
Remind me again why we'd want Mark Ellis?
I have a very, umm...photographic brain. A lot like Ansel Adams but in color and with a lot more, uh.....insertion and pubic hair.
My bad.....
Two things…..
- First, I was going to include Skip in the trade to Oakland. Maybe he’s the 4th/5th player, or maybe he goes instead of Duncan.
- Second, I really think we’d get something back from Oakland. Deals like this usually include some kind of throw-in concession on the side that is Oakland. They don’t need Ellis, I don’t think. But yea, it might be somebody else…..Ellis just sounded like a decent option.
Say you were standing with one foot in the oven and one foot in an ice bucket. According to the percentage people, you should be perfectly comfortable." - Manager Bobby Bragan
by SoonerfanTU on Jun 27, 2009 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn't trade for Mark Ellis if he was the last 2nd baseman on the planet.
Frankly, we don’t need him either. Even if Skip is involved in the deal. You start Tyler Greene at SS and Ryan at 2b.
Ellis is not any good, is 32 years old, is signed through 2011 (well, has a 500k buyout for 2011), and will make 5.5M in 2010 and 6M in 2011. Oh, and he’s currently on the 60-day disabled list.
No thank you.
I have a very, umm...photographic brain. A lot like Ansel Adams but in color and with a lot more, uh.....insertion and pubic hair.
Now I don't like this thought of trading Luddy for Holliday
but if we could somehow package Skip in there like Sooner said, and move Ryan to @B full time, I would like this idea a lot better.
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Jun 27, 2009 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Remind me again why we want to re-sign Ank?
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Jun 27, 2009 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Depends what he asks for.....
But he could still be useful, though I’d prefer it as the 4th OF.
Say you were standing with one foot in the oven and one foot in an ice bucket. According to the percentage people, you should be perfectly comfortable." - Manager Bobby Bragan
by SoonerfanTU on Jun 27, 2009 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Because maybe Boras will give us a discount for purchasing 2 of his clients?
"Rasmus doesn't hit lefties. Instead he bashes them over the head with their own bleeding arm he just raced to the mound to rip off before the ball arrives to the plate. He then smashes that baseball with the pitchers bloody arm over the wall because he does not hit lefites he bashes them." Ted Lilly
Giving up Daryl Jones for 3 months of Holliday
would be painful.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 27, 2009 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Why?
Why do you really think that Holliday won’t resign? Because of Boras? Holliday is from the midwest, so I’m sure he’d love to latch on around here. If I remember right, he grew up a bit of a Cardinals fan. And surely he sees what playing with AP would do to help his game. But if he leaves, we’ve got the picks.
Also not sure why you are so high on Jones. I like the kid, and I think he will be a decent pro. But he is still going to be a corner OF that doesn’t hit for as much power as a corner OF should, best case scenario in my mind. He’s another lefty. I don’t think he’ll be ready for a starting job before 2011.
I’d have a hard time moving Wallace for Holliday. I’d have had a hard time moving Raz last year, most likely, and definitely wouldn’t now. But we should be able to find guys like Jones pretty easily. I just don’t see him as the irreplaceable prospect that some do.
Say you were standing with one foot in the oven and one foot in an ice bucket. According to the percentage people, you should be perfectly comfortable." - Manager Bobby Bragan
by SoonerfanTU on Jun 27, 2009 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
I should add.....
That I pretty much agree with you about not moving Jones as a throw-in, or as the 3rd best player in the deal. I wouldn’t hesitate to move him with a reliever and some lesser guys though.
Say you were standing with one foot in the oven and one foot in an ice bucket. According to the percentage people, you should be perfectly comfortable." - Manager Bobby Bragan
by SoonerfanTU on Jun 27, 2009 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
If we trade Luds for Holliday I would not want to give up to much more than Luds.
I mean we are trading a player that will be comparable to Holliday who is cost controlled in exchange for one that is not.
I could live with that other player being Perez but then I want an A or AA player back.
I would also want a window to talk to Holliday about signing long term.
Finally I would want an army of Doctors to tear him apart and put him back togther again. I am tired of damaged goods.
"Rasmus doesn't hit lefties. Instead he bashes them over the head with their own bleeding arm he just raced to the mound to rip off before the ball arrives to the plate. He then smashes that baseball with the pitchers bloody arm over the wall because he does not hit lefites he bashes them." Ted Lilly
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