Game 67 overflow thread
by chuckb on Jun 18, 2009 9:44 PM EDT
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I HOPE SO!!!
"Your Holiness, I'm Joseph Medwick. I, too, used to be a Cardinal."-Joe Medwick, to Pope Pius XII.
by redbirdnation8206 on Jun 18, 2009 9:56 PM EDT reply actions
wow i didnt think i'd make the overflow tonight when we were 4 down
3am here now…
Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.
nice play Luddy!
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 18, 2009 9:58 PM EDT reply actions
Shouldn't we only be able to mention getting serious if we're at bat?
Seems like we may jinx it otherwise.
Can't complain much about the game tonight outside of the error in the 1st
The offense has done OK without Pujols and Piniero has pitched well.
yeah it'd kinda suck not to win this one really
i missed the first inning, and so the 6 i’ve seen we’ve totally dominated.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jun 18, 2009 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
you missed a whale of an inning*
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
cramp or somethin
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 18, 2009 10:01 PM EDT reply actions
how do you get a cramp in your elbow?
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
it was on glove arm I think
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 18, 2009 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Al does realize...
that Adam Everett has a career OPS of .621 against the Cardinals, right? In other words, against the Cards he’d have been better off cleating himself on the way to the plate, or perhaps trying to hit with a pillow?
Oh, and great…a Cards pitcher and Barry Weinberg within 9 feet of each other.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jun 18, 2009 10:01 PM EDT reply actions
what the hell is going on
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 18, 2009 10:03 PM EDT reply actions
Jeez
Get that man a banana!
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pickle juice
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
by gdm426 on Jun 18, 2009 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
holy hell Joel
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
Oh holy turd
That looks painful as all hell. If that is a cramp, Al is finally right…leg cramps mid-athletic activity hurt like hell.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jun 18, 2009 10:03 PM EDT reply actions
i randomly had full on cramp one day just sitting on my bed
in all honesty i think it was the most painful thing that’s ever happened to me, and i’ve broken a couple of bones, had 4 teeth out, had someone break my nose etc etc
Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 18, 2009 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I tend to get footcramps
when I’m just sitting around. Standing and putting weight on it usually makes it subside.
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by RunninRedbird on Jun 18, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
haha comical strikeout
seriously though, cramp is one of the most painful things known to mankind.
Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.
makes me get all panicky
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 18, 2009 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Apologies in advance for the OTness (and silliness) of this post,
but this is driving me bonkers.
Ludwick reminds me more than a little bit of a muppet, but I can’t figure out which one. At first I thought it was Beaker, but now I’m thinking it’s a Sesame Street muppet. A skinny-headed muppet that used to bounce up and down. Ring a bell with anyone?
Oh, and OUCH.
by peach concrete on Jun 18, 2009 10:04 PM EDT reply actions
i was gonna say beeker definitely
meepmeepwick
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by Felonius_Monk on Jun 18, 2009 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Joel
As he got the SO
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by RunninRedbird on Jun 18, 2009 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
weird timing, eh?
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 18, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
jo-el
fell over on the follow through of the strikeout grabbing his right leg. got helped off the field.
"Them Cubbies can kiss my ass" -Dizzy Dean
holy crap, they carried him off the field
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
this really makes no sense whatsoever
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 18, 2009 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually it does.
Raz is still pretty helpless against lefties.
by StanTheManFan on Jun 18, 2009 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
While I respect your sample size arguement
it’s the middle of June… sooner or later we have to be able to make assumptions.
Yeah, but he didnt demonstrate a huge split
The difference in quality of pitchers as a whole is different, but i think its tough to say that (major league lefty – minor league lefty) is tons greater than (major league righty – minor league righty). If that makes sense. Which it probably doesn’t but I dont know how to articulate what I mean.
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The sample size isn't THAT small.
A sub-.500 OPS with 40 ABs isn’t easy to do.
by StanTheManFan on Jun 18, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
except that lefty vs lefty the assumption
has to be that there IS a split, until he proves it wrong.
Still, burning albert in the 7th with no one on base is a terrible waste.
- "I went at it and didn’t slow down, so it kind of bounced off me." -Lil' Dunc
save pujols to pinch hit if it goes to extras I'd say
or at least when there’s men on base
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 18, 2009 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
saving Pujols in case in goes into extras
I see what you did there
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by mattyfrommo on Jun 18, 2009 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Could have done it last inning
With a runner in scoring position if you are going to do it now.
Makes better sense offensively, and defensively.
by Merry CRasmus on Jun 18, 2009 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
THAT WASN'T EVEN CLOSE TO A STRIKE
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
and we just wasted our only bullet off the bench
thanks TLR, you tool.
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LaRueManChoo says you better watch your cornhole
cause he’s got plenty of bullets
and mullets
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
Alright
Now he better stay in the game, otherwise it makes zero sense.
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pujols is used to batting with no-one on
so, ermm, that switch was to, ermmm, keep him in his comfort zone?
oh i give up.
Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.
the only reason I can think of
is that he was hoping they’d pitch around him, thus having the lead off man get on.
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i just realized he pinch hit for Colby
good grief
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
Because Raz's struggles against lefties are our biggest offensive woes right now....
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by RunninRedbird on Jun 18, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
and moron
but I’m not sure if it was on purpose or not
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 18, 2009 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
ah yes
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 18, 2009 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I believe he was referring to this
(This is GDM by the way)
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by RunninRedbird on Jun 18, 2009 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
flagged!
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
You can't handle the truth?
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by mattyfrommo on Jun 18, 2009 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Man, it sure would be nice if Albert was coming up to bat for Duncan
instead of Rasmus.
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it wouldn't be if there were two outs and Albert didn't get to bat in the ninth in a one run game...
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jun 18, 2009 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
you're under the assumption Pujols is staying in the game
I’m not so sure about that.
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assuming pujols stays in the gaem he is now guranteed to bat again before the end of the game
TLR should have hit for Rasmus at that point. Whether he should have hit for Skip may be a different questions, but he should have hit Pujols for Rasmus at the point he did.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jun 18, 2009 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
wouldn't it have been better
to pinch hit albert for Duncan, with Luddy on first?
- "I went at it and didn’t slow down, so it kind of bounced off me." -Lil' Dunc
You didn't know Ludwick was going to get on base.
If there were two outs by the time Dunc got up you would have severely reduced the chances of Pujols coming up twice.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jun 18, 2009 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
not ludwick
but SOMEONE was likely to get on base between the first batter of the 7th and the end of the game.
- "I went at it and didn’t slow down, so it kind of bounced off me." -Lil' Dunc
i'ts time find your powar Baby Dunk
find your powar
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
the ridiculous thing is
we just had a HUGE leverage situation, 2 men on, 2 outs, porcello out, a lefty reliever in… and he LEAVES SCHU TO BAT, to predictable results, a guy who CANNOT hit lefties in any way at all. So we just gave that situation away basically. And schu is a crap fielder, so we’d want him out late on anyhow….
And then one inning later he takes out our GOOD fielding CF, who’s had like 30 ABs in his career vs lefties in the majors? And leaves in duncan, AND schu, who are both terrible in the field and can’t hit lefties either? WTF?
Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.
with no one out and no-one on. And pujols won't bat again unless we get 2 men on base (I think)
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by Felonius_Monk on Jun 18, 2009 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly right
Any of the 3 lefties would have been a better choice.
by Merry CRasmus on Jun 18, 2009 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Tony w/ an absolutely stone-stupid decision there
if he hates the lefty-lefty matchup why does skip get to bat w/ Ryan, a better defender as well, on the bench? not to mention it was a big spot in the game w/ a runner on 2nd.
then he takes out the 2nd best hitter on the team right now in favor of Albert who should be pinch hitting later in the game for Ankiel or Duncan. I’d much rather use the Rh hitter w/ the man on 2nd than to lead off the inn. he’s usage is not at all consistent. Not to mention we just got worse defensively.
we should have Ryan at 2b now, colby still in center and albert at first for duncan w/ ankiel in left or duncan in left depending on which one albert hit for. sigh
Impossible to justify his treatment of the 2 left-handed hitters there and his use of the bench. beyond dumb
la russa's in-game management this year has been appalling
i mean just flat out indefensible.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jun 18, 2009 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions
what adds to that is their shitty roster management
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
Army of relievers FTW
eat those bad innings in blowout games. Nothing is more important for a team!!!
if VEB had press credntials and was at the post game news conferences,
how long would we last?
Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
better pray for a 2 hour game
more than 3, and it wouldn’t be pretty
by Expatcardfan on Jun 18, 2009 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Abert absolutely has to stay in the game here, right?
If he does not stay in the game, I say either fire Tony, or fire at Tony, either one works for me
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by mattyfrommo on Jun 18, 2009 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions
at this point
pointing out TLR’s stupid decisions is like criticizing grandpa’s driving. Why bother?
- "I went at it and didn’t slow down, so it kind of bounced off me." -Lil' Dunc
what you watchin for, dunc?
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 18, 2009 10:13 PM EDT reply actions
WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU LOOKING FOR DUNCAN?
I wish he wasn’t a fucking coachs kid
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 18, 2009 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions
clearly we don't wanna use albert to bat for him
and leave Colby in CF. W/ Duncan and Ankiel’s stellar OF d, we can’t have them being pinch hit for late in a close game. Much better to take out the better defensive player
I am waiting for one of these days where he keeps Duncan in the OF
over Rasmus to absolutely bite him in the ass. I am even willing for it to cost us a game if it will teach Tony a lesson
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by mattyfrommo on Jun 18, 2009 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Dick & Dunk are two guys TLR will never, ever admit cost the Cards game
he might say he put them in the position to fail, but he’ll never admit it was their fault.
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
damit
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
TLR has to be giving this to his buddy Leyland
You got two lefties and you can PINCH HIT a righty. What the hell is TLR thinking?
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by zoomzoomj88 on Jun 18, 2009 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Duncan ops vs lefties: .691
Raz ops vs lefties: .410
Just a guess.
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by SoonerfanTU on Jun 18, 2009 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
because a .691 OPS is just so impressive
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by RunninRedbird on Jun 18, 2009 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
hey, it's better than mine
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
thats a compelling reason
like to see their ops vs. lefties over the past month though…i bet that paints a much different picture
by VolsnCards5 on Jun 18, 2009 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't know where to find that.....
But I bet it doesn’t.
Say you were standing with one foot in the oven and one foot in an ice bucket. According to the percentage people, you should be perfectly comfortable." - Manager Bobby Bragan
by SoonerfanTU on Jun 18, 2009 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
rasmus has pretty much not batted vs lefties in the last month
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by Felonius_Monk on Jun 18, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Link?
Say you were standing with one foot in the oven and one foot in an ice bucket. According to the percentage people, you should be perfectly comfortable." - Manager Bobby Bragan
by SoonerfanTU on Jun 18, 2009 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
in the last month
Can we just all agree that all our lefty OFs suck against the LHP?
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by mattyfrommo on Jun 18, 2009 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Where you at Monk?
Say you were standing with one foot in the oven and one foot in an ice bucket. According to the percentage people, you should be perfectly comfortable." - Manager Bobby Bragan
by SoonerfanTU on Jun 18, 2009 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Present.
I went ot bed shortly after motte started sucking. Was like 4am over here. Well, yep, rasmus has sucked this last month vs lhp. But so’s Duncan (and I wouldn’t have put Apu in for duncan – i think rasmus was arguably a better guy to replace. I’d have switched out Schumaker for Apu, or, at the very least, Greene or another RHB. Leaving him in when we had the tying run on 2nd and a LOOGY pitching was appalling).
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by Felonius_Monk on Jun 19, 2009 5:37 AM EDT up reply actions
and it still doesnt take into account the defensive difference
which is important
by VolsnCards5 on Jun 18, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions
rasmus has had like 2 plate appearances against lefties
i’d have rather put him in for schumaker in the previous inning when he could’ve driven in a run, and improved our defence.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jun 18, 2009 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Raz has nearly as many as anybody.....
not named Pujols, Duncan, Yadi, or Ryan.
Say you were standing with one foot in the oven and one foot in an ice bucket. According to the percentage people, you should be perfectly comfortable." - Manager Bobby Bragan
by SoonerfanTU on Jun 18, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions
career
50 plate appearances is indicative of his ability to hit left-hand pitching? Seriously sooner?!
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by Felonius_Monk on Jun 18, 2009 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
It is indicative of TODAY
Say you were standing with one foot in the oven and one foot in an ice bucket. According to the percentage people, you should be perfectly comfortable." - Manager Bobby Bragan
by SoonerfanTU on Jun 18, 2009 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
what are you on about?
you are arguing that rasmus should not hit against lefties because he has, in like 50 PA, a lower OPS than duncan against lefties. That is not a significant sample size.
Honestly, I don’t think he should’ve pinch hit pujols for dunc, but rasmus is going to be a better hitter of LHP than duncan is. Crappy small sample sizes do not demonstrate otherwise.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jun 18, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
FWIW, in 50 PAs
one marginal homerun is worth .020 OBP and .080 in SLG, making for a .100 diff in OPS. That’s why 50 PAs isn’t nearly enough
Mang Says...
"There is no "I" in team, or in B g Mac Land, either."
saying something is a small sample size doesn't disprove a correlation
all correlations, even the strongest ones, start off with small sample sizes.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jun 18, 2009 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I took stats 101
I was saying that Colby’s shittyness against lefties over his last 50 PAs doesn’t demonstrate his true talent given his minor league stats where the split was far less severe
Mang Says...
"There is no "I" in team, or in B g Mac Land, either."
oh come on
stop arguing tedious semantics. The reality is that 50 PA, against 422 in the minors, doesn’t really tell us very much. Especially when he has a .112 BABIP
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by Felonius_Monk on Jun 18, 2009 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Ok, but Colby's stats against LH pitching in single and double A
don’t tell me very much about whether he hits major league quality LOOGYs well. These guys are even better than avg. LH pitching against LHB – they’re paid to get out ML left handed hitting. Colby didn’t face those guys in the minors very often.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jun 18, 2009 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
No that's true
but his results in 50 PA tell you even less.
All I’d say is this – his results against minor league lefties don’t say THAT much about his ability to hit them in the majors, BUT the fact he didn’t have a split did – unless you believe that the skill difference between LHP and RHP is different in the majors to the minors, Colby’s had a similar split against LHP as he has against RHP his whole career. So broadly, as he’s improved against righties and moved up the minor league ladder, he’s also hit lefties as well along the way.
That, at least, should be a pretty strong suggestion that his swing and eye are decent against LHP.
In contrast, Duncan and Schumaker both had pretty pronounced splits against LHP (I only looked it up last night but I believe both gave up over .080 in OBP against LHP in the minors), which suggests (at the only level we can really compare the players, i.e. where they’ve had enough PAs) they have less ability to hit LHP than rasmus.
I really can’t understand how you can argue a 50 PA sample size between three players at one level as opposed to 400+ PA sample size at lower levels that show a different result. I’ve got to think the larger sample is more representative, right?
Also re: minor league pitching – I agree about the LOOGY thing, but the effect is JUST the same on schu or duncan, or whichever lefty you have hitting – I’m not arguing “Colby will hit lefties as well as righties” or “Colby will hit lefties as well in the majors as he did in the minors”; I’m saying that Colby’s major league split against LHP is likely (given a reasonable sample size) to be better than Duncan, Ankiel or Schu’s, because that was the trend that was reflected in the minors, and I don’t really see how 50 PA with a .118 BABIP spread over 2 and a half months really does much to disprove that.
Also, I’m not sure the skill difference in LHRP between the high minors and the majors is different to any other position, really. In Memphis we have a good lefty starter (Garcia, when he’s healthy) and at least three decent AAA LOOGYs (Manning, Ostlund, Ring, you could include Maekawa too) who are all borderline guys who could be in the majors at some point. I don’t see how the gulf between MLB and AAA is bigger in LHRP than it is in starting pitching, hitting, right-handed relief etc etc.
So, I take your point, but I just don’t think saying “it’s different in the majors than the minors” and assuming Colby can’t hit major league LOOGYs given a tiny sample size is really arguing your case particularly persuasively
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by Felonius_Monk on Jun 19, 2009 5:50 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree and wasn't arguing that...
Colby won’t be able to hit LHP in the majors as a general matter based on his few ML PA’s against LHP. My argument was that having Apu hit for Raz at that point in the game was not a stupid decision given all the factors (matchups, chances for Apu to hit twice in a one-run game, the situation at the end of the 6th versus the start of the 7th, etc.).
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jun 19, 2009 8:31 AM EDT up reply actions
no, it probably wasn't
compared to the option of having him in for duncan, i tend to agree that was probably the right choice. But if pujols was going to play at all, he shoulda been in for Schu, in the higher-leverage situation, with a man on and a chance to tie it up or give us the lead. IMO anyway. You make some valid points though.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jun 19, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Rasmus has no platoon split in his minor league career
he has yet to prove he has one in mlb either. Duncan has a pretty big one in both.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jun 18, 2009 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
LHP vs LHB
the batter doesn’t prove he has one; he proves he DOESN’T have one. And colby has certainly done nothing to show that he doesn’t have one.
- "I went at it and didn’t slow down, so it kind of bounced off me." -Lil' Dunc
well, he didn't have one in the minors
i think it’s reasonable to give him the chance to show that he might not in the majors – especially as we already know that dunc has one.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jun 18, 2009 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
well, or schu
i agree with willie mcgee regarding the fact that a dunc/pujols switch would make less sense.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jun 18, 2009 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I could understandthat logic if Duncan was an above average defender
but Tony’s whole career in St Louis he has preached defense first, it just seems odd he throws it out the window so often this season.
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by mattyfrommo on Jun 18, 2009 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
surely you appreciate how important those two spots in the order are for Pujols chances of hitting twice, right?
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jun 18, 2009 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
ding, ding, ding
Say you were standing with one foot in the oven and one foot in an ice bucket. According to the percentage people, you should be perfectly comfortable." - Manager Bobby Bragan
by SoonerfanTU on Jun 18, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions
yes but
shouldn’t he have hit instead of schumaker?
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by Felonius_Monk on Jun 18, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
see my note below...
Pujols would’ve been walked with two outs and a man on second with Raz facing a LOOGY wiht 2 outs. What’s the run expectancy of that versus starting off an inning with Pujols and no outs? regardless, TLR definitely should have hit Pujols for Raz rather than wait for Dunc given the increased chances that Pujols would hit twice.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jun 18, 2009 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah but
if he hits him for schu then he gets on (say he’s walked every time), putting two runners on in a position where we have a guy in scoring position, and makes our defense better.
I’m not arguing about the dunc/ras thing – you’re right there, except that ras is better at hitting lefties than duncan, but i agree that having pujols hit twice takes precedence. But pujols should’ve been in for schu.
And we need to stop treating rasmus as if he can’t hit lefties when he’s never been given the chance. Like i say, he’s the only cardinal lefty who didn’t have a platoon split in the minors – he hits lefties just fine.
Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 18, 2009 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
He's had a chance.....
Only Duncan has more AB’s against lefties, as a lefty, than Raz on the Cardinal roster. A lefty hitting heavy roster.
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by SoonerfanTU on Jun 18, 2009 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
50 PA, spread over 2 months, is not enough to make a conclusion about anything
I just don’t see how you can argue that. At all. It’s facile. Albert’s had 50 PA stretches in his first two seasons when he’s OPSed less than .800. Did we just say “OK, he’s done” and send him back to the minors, or bench him? No. Ludwick’s had some terrible 50PA runs against all sorts of pitching this year, but it doesn’t mean he’s suddenly a terrible hitter or can’t hit major league pitching.
I understand what you mean – i.e. that TLR hasn’t particularly held rasmus out against LHP. Fair enough, I think we can see that. But I do believe that making the conclusion that he has a significant split on just 50 PA is foolhardy; wait until he’s had at least a few hundred more ABs. On that basis, I’d probably rather switch out guys who a) are known to have bad platoon splits and b) are bad defenders, such as Schumaker and (to a lesser extent) Duncan. I actually personally think that Duncan’s approach to LHP looks better this year, and his good batting eye is going to make him a better option going forward against lefties than Schu and Ank, who both look fairly clueless against southpaws.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jun 19, 2009 6:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Not that it justifies it...
but assuming Albert stays in, he pinch hit there so that he’ll come up again in the bottom of the 9th. Which he now is guaranteed to do…
V, b.
Well...
by Tony’s logic, Albert just walks and Colby faces the lefty, which he clearly didn’t want. I’m not agreeing with him, I’m just saying there was a reason for it…
V, b.
I think
TLR was trying to force Leyland to lift Seay by PH Albert, then have a RHP to face Dunc and Ank later
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pujols hits for schu
and drives in the run (hopefully). Then we take ouot dunc for either ryan or greene, move thurston to 2B, greene to 3B, Albert to 1B and we not only get albert in in the high leverage situation, AND give him at least 2AB, BUT we get better defensively too…. absolute no-brainer.
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They very well may have walked him
But if so that is ok, they are putting the go ahead run on
by Merry CRasmus on Jun 18, 2009 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
they would have walked Pujols and had a LOOGY facing Rasmus with two outs
what’s the difference in run expectancy with that versus starting an inning off with PUjols and no outs?
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jun 18, 2009 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
thats a fair point
but then we have a better defensive alignment, and we can switch rasmus out THEN if we really want. Rasmus isn’t going to be bad vs LHP – like I say he has no platoon split in the minors. You guys really need to pay less attention to crazy small sample sizes.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jun 18, 2009 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Win expectancy
There’s about a 3.5% greater chance of winning with 1st and 2nd in the 6th vs. leading off the 7th.
by Merry CRasmus on Jun 18, 2009 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions
does that factor in Raz versus a Loogy and Pujols starting off the inning (with his high OBP)?
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jun 18, 2009 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Nope
Fair point. You’re also assuming they will intentionally walk him. That is not a sure thing because it puts the winning run on. Very well could have happened though. And while we are counting other variables you have to consider how much each move affects our defensive abilities.
You are making the right, and best, points here. I still do not think it’s the right move.
by Merry CRasmus on Jun 18, 2009 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
agreed
it might not be as clear cut as i thought and I do appreciate that, willie, but I still think it’s far better to have one more inning of our best defensive alignment, pujols hitting with a man on EVEN IF he’s IBBed (because he likely gets UIBBed when leading off anyhow), I don’t really think having colby facing a LOOGY is especially relevant as we have Dunc and Ank facing the LOOGY in the next inning (presumably with Pujols on) anyhow. And, as I’ve mentioned several times, Rasmus is likely a better hitter of LHP than Dunc and Ank, he just hasn’t had chance to demonstrate it yet in 50 plate appearances where he’s had a .118 BABIP.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jun 18, 2009 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I would have been fine with Pujols batting for Schu - my comments were really...
geared towards all the people who immediately jumped in and said TLR was stupid for subbing Pujols for Raz when, at that point, it was the smart play so that Pujols could bat twice.
Somebody can probably run the stats to see how often the Cards score when Pujols leads off an inning – I’m betting it’s pretty high. Also, you’ve got to give Pujols two chances to hit the solo shot when (at the time) it was a one-run game.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jun 18, 2009 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I for one will never complain again when Pujols bats for anyone
I am even gonna let the whole Dunc staying in for Rasmus thing go. I just wish Tony would go back to caring more about defense like he used to, this season is throwing me for a fucking loop
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by mattyfrommo on Jun 18, 2009 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't want to be the guy
That goes on rants for every in game decision. Such is the danger of being on these in game threads.
I don’t think it’s the right move, but you make good points. I kinda liked the idea of him facing Seay right when they made the pitching change. But it is probably naive to think he was going to get much to swing at so it’s probably a lot closer call than it appears. 3.5% for one situation is a pretty damn big gap to close for one at bat though. If Rasmus is as bad as his splits show that probably closes it. I don’t think he is but only time will tell.
Anyway, let’s rally here!
by Merry CRasmus on Jun 18, 2009 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
i don't see how having pujols start off an inning can be any better than him being on 1st base by an IBB
it just can’t, when there’s already a guy on 2B.
Even if Raz faces the LOOGY in the first scenario, when you have pujols leading off the inning, you’re letting dunc and ankiel face the loogy in the next inning. Either way someone’s gonna face him.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jun 18, 2009 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
another great memory
mike maroth started a couple of games the year before that….
mmmmm….
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by Felonius_Monk on Jun 18, 2009 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
ugh, nightmare
saw the guy pitch in DC. Still looking for R Zimmerman’s HR off him
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Jaime and Mulder both started games last year, I think
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just keep him away from me & he'll be fine
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ugg
i take full responsibility for that one
by YesWeOquendo on Jun 18, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions
you & your big mouth
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mother of ass
damnit Motte
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
What the fuck just happened???
He’s Placido god damned Polanco… what the hell was the strategy there?
holy shit motte!!!
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 18, 2009 10:24 PM EDT reply actions
damn Motte!
that was awesome
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he still fails
you can’t give up a homerun to placido fucking polanco
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got squeezed on a couple of pitches?
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sure i can
my slider doesn’t slide
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Motte's #'s suddenly suck
Why the hell hasn’t Perez been used in the past 900 games?
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i'm sorry
but i am not ok with relievers giving up homeruns…even if they are solo shots
by VolsnCards5 on Jun 18, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Can the Card's medical staff just sit down for once, I'm tired of seeing them
That play was awesome.
I know that this is a little late...
but the thing with Pineiro’s cramps was among the weirdest things I’ve seen in a ballgame. I don’t get how you can cramp in your non-pitching arm… but what was more interesting was Joel’s strike three followed by a fall to the ground.
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Cards got lucky.....
Franklin has been so good at closing games out.
Because if we were relying on Perez/Motte, like many wanted…..oh boy…..not good.
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motte will be lights out next season dude
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 18, 2009 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
sorry
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 18, 2009 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Cards got lucky
that franklin has been really lucky on balls in play? Yeah I guess we did. Lucky is the optimal word.
I’m happy with the set-up though – I don’t think you should keep your best reliever to the 9th inning only. I like franklin but he’s probably not our best reliever.
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by Felonius_Monk on Jun 18, 2009 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Motte is fucking horrible now
learn how to throw a breaking pitch.
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Yeah
he is teh suck. DFA HIM!!!!
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by RunninRedbird on Jun 18, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
don't DFA him
but I wouldn’t be opposed to including him in any package for a hitter.
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I am being sarcastic
Motte is not “fucking horrible”
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by RunninRedbird on Jun 18, 2009 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions
i realize you're being sarcastic
and you’re right, he isn’t fucking horrible, just regular horrible.
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how bout he is just on a bad stretch
I don’t think anyone on this team is actually fucking horrible, except for Franklin…he sucks
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by mattyfrommo on Jun 18, 2009 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
he is the worst
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what. the. fuck.
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safe to say
that the thames homer secures the game for detroit. 2 out of 3 isn’t bad, but a sweep would be better.
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not this team
this team has shown very little ability to mount a late inning comeback.
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2 out of 3 isn't bad
but we still have a bad offense and bad bullpen.
So it’s hard to be too happy.
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It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
Well, every move TLR made tonight
has bitten him
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yeah, even when you do the right move
it fails sometimes. That’s why it’s so hard to tell the bad managers from the good ones.
- "I went at it and didn’t slow down, so it kind of bounced off me." -Lil' Dunc
i don't think he's done too bad tonight
just the whole decision as to where to PH pujols was questionnable…
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by Felonius_Monk on Jun 18, 2009 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh well
Detroit played better – if they win this game, oh well. 2 out of 3 not bad against a team that scared me coming in
Considering they've swept us every reg. season series since 06
I can see why you were worried.
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by zoomzoomj88 on Jun 18, 2009 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Motte
Unforgivable. That’s the game.
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who's gonna PH for Motte?
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Didn't you see last night?
Motte hits for himself these days
by YesWeOquendo on Jun 18, 2009 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm A Thug
awesome into music KBot
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This is new KBot
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by RunninRedbird on Jun 18, 2009 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
i was sure trick daddy would bring him good mojo
damnit
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I thought you were a MORAN
and a redneck
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by mattyfrommo on Jun 18, 2009 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
for realz yo
for evar
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
What happened to Mottes' ERA?
I thought he was big pimpin it and now he has an earned run avg. over 5.
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Motte's era is like Ank's BA
it doesn’t take more than a couple bad games in a row for gold to look like shit. This is why ERA and BA both suck major balls
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by mattyfrommo on Jun 18, 2009 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
well poop
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is that really Greene's entry music?
that was very strange.
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by davethebutcher on Jun 18, 2009 10:38 PM EDT reply actions
are you watching that thing where Robert Plant asks "does anybody believe in magic?"
Because that is hilarious.
by Expatcardfan on Jun 18, 2009 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I haven't seen that yet...
it’s still the same concert from MSG that’s been playing for like 2 hours.
I didn't expect anything big
This is why Stavinoha needed to stay. K. Greene is still messed up.
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What was Stav Infection bringing us besides zero on-base ability and cruddy OF defense?
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by RunninRedbird on Jun 18, 2009 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Clutch hits
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by zoomzoomj88 on Jun 18, 2009 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
3 weeks ago
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by RunninRedbird on Jun 18, 2009 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
And what made them clutch?
The fact that they provided RBI’s?
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by RunninRedbird on Jun 18, 2009 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Stav has had like 2 clutch hits all season
pair that with his awesome D and that astronmoical .242 OBP and I think you have changed my mind about him NEEDING to stay. Stav is not going to make a turds worth of difference to this team this season.
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by mattyfrommo on Jun 18, 2009 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
"turd" is really an under-used word.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jun 18, 2009 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I know!
it really does fit here, no?
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by mattyfrommo on Jun 18, 2009 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Stavinoha needed to stay
that might have been the first time those words were ever uttered, if you don’t count Stav’s mom saying it
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by mattyfrommo on Jun 18, 2009 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Better than Khalil
Whose nerves aren’t in check.
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by zoomzoomj88 on Jun 18, 2009 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
please refrain
from talking about things you know nothing about
by prophetjohn on Jun 18, 2009 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
If you're such the expert, fire away.
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by zoomzoomj88 on Jun 18, 2009 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm not an expert
that’s why i’m not diagnosing a guy based on how he stands in a batter’s box for four pitches
that’s what we call ignorance and i try to avoid it
by prophetjohn on Jun 18, 2009 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Why was he on the DL?
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by zoomzoomj88 on Jun 18, 2009 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
of course
he saw one at bat!
and he got out
t greene needs a shrink, too!
by prophetjohn on Jun 18, 2009 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
you know who else needs a shrink? Richard Simmons
that guy ain’t right
by Expatcardfan on Jun 18, 2009 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I won't argue that Khalil probably shouldnt be here yet
but if loving Stavinfection is right, I wanna be wrong
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by mattyfrommo on Jun 18, 2009 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
even i don't include Stav's mom
and i try to make my list look impressive
by Expatcardfan on Jun 18, 2009 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
If Stav's mom is a Cards fan...
She wants him in Memphis too.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jun 18, 2009 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Please
Let’s leave the mothers out of this
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by RunninRedbird on Jun 18, 2009 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
If the Alternative is K. Greene coming up and playing @ 3rd
by all means Stavi can stay on this team. If only to prevent that from happening.
if there is ever a reason that Stav needs to be on this team
then they might as well blow the whole thing up and start all over again. Stav is like Franklin, he sucks.
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by mattyfrommo on Jun 18, 2009 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm glad
that you’re such an expert psychologist that you can diagnose a guy based on an at bat
did you go to the al hrabosky school of mental health?
by prophetjohn on Jun 18, 2009 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
he's gonna jack a two run dong here to prove you wrong
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battled back
to swing at a eye-high FB
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whatever it is, it better be working
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if he stops washing it, then birds would probably take up residence in it
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shit
i stopped paying attention for a minute, figured you were talking about Motte, then saw Kinney on the screen, and actually said out loud “what the hell is that thing?”
bourbon does not help attention/comprehension skills
by Expatcardfan on Jun 18, 2009 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions
he stole it from la rue
notice la rue’s is missing
by prophetjohn on Jun 18, 2009 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
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by TigersInThree on Jun 18, 2009 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
how the holy hell do you let adam everett get on base?
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pity
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by RunninRedbird on Jun 18, 2009 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
There was something in the air that night. The stars were bright, Fernando.
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Boy we've regressed
from Zeppelin to ABBA
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damnit, it was working
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let's see, zeppelin, abba & meat loaf so far tonight
i was thinking about throwing in some 80’s hair bands
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reminds me of first-year at college
not pleasant memories
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roommate who ONLY played Journey
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who said God doesn’t have a sense of humor?
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Just a small town girl, livin' in a lonely world.
She took the midnight train goin’ anywhere.
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
don't stop
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Fleetwood Mac
late 70s
sorry
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whoa
a walk for the schu-man? me likey
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yeah, hes looking really bad
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 18, 2009 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
still looking good enough to work a walk
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i dont think i'd call
4.5 “almost five.”
by longhornscardinals on Jun 18, 2009 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
if you're rounding
to the nearest whole number, it’s five
by prophetjohn on Jun 18, 2009 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions
now is the time, Dunc
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 18, 2009 11:02 PM EDT reply actions
find your powar!
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why does Dunc always drop to one knee when he swings?
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in retrospect
i take that back. probably would’ve busted his kneecap, that pitch was coming in hard.
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way to advance there, skip
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 18, 2009 11:04 PM EDT reply actions
/facepalm
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what the hell Skippy?
your ass has to be on third damnit!
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
did it matter?
down by 3, the lead baserunner cannot afford to take any chances…
- "I went at it and didn’t slow down, so it kind of bounced off me." -Lil' Dunc
ok, Ank
don’t strike out, plz, k, thnx
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 18, 2009 11:05 PM EDT reply actions
i will run bare ass naked around the park if that happens
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were going streaking!
through the quad, into the gymnasium
by YesWeOquendo on Jun 18, 2009 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
he did have a walkoff single vs cubs last year
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or he'll get walked in
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 18, 2009 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
this would have been a nice time to have a big time power bat on the bench.
Shame there wasn’t one available tonight.
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just listened to Laura, by the Scissor Sisters, it seems to have helped
I’m not left handed, I swear
holy hell
WTF is up with this ump?
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or swing at a pitch a foot outside
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fuck
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 18, 2009 11:07 PM EDT reply actions
shocking
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Wow Rick, you couldnt just strike out like you normally do?
Just had to outdo yourself…prick.
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that's not a winner
but at least we took the series
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history tells us again and again how GOB points out the folly of man
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 18, 2009 11:08 PM EDT reply actions
you're*, in both instances.
now who’s the fool!?
by longhornscardinals on Jun 18, 2009 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
It was justified
As soon as I hit post and looked at it, I said, “Whoops…hope nobody dings me for that”.
by cloistermaximus on Jun 18, 2009 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Rick is batting like he was still a P
and thursty really blew it for pineiro
Yadi swings and hits a high fly ball... Endy Chavez goes back, to the track, to the wall... ITS A GUNNER!! Yadi gives St. Louis the lead in the top of the ninth!
1.5 games back now
Yadi swings and hits a high fly ball... Endy Chavez goes back, to the track, to the wall... ITS A GUNNER!! Yadi gives St. Louis the lead in the top of the ninth!
KC, Mets, Twins up next
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history tells us again and again how GOB points out the folly of man
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 18, 2009 11:10 PM EDT reply actions
I hate all the politics involved with this team
I love Dave Duncan, and think he is the best pitching coach in the league. But i’m ready for him and TLR to move on, so we can finally rid this team of Chris and Rick
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I don't get all the Chris Duncan hate...
Is he good? No. But there’s a whole lot of bad to go around.
And I’m really getting sick of “Oh, he’s the coach’s son” snide comments
Especially after he had a decent game – 1 hit in 3 AB, 2 walks.
You're right
I should love that .757 OPS and terrible defense. Especially out of our cleanup hitter.
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Keys to the Game
-Joe Thurston was Joe Thurston.
-Manager replaced 2nd best hitter with 1st best hitter for no reason in 7th inning.
-Rick Ankiel was Rick Ankiel.
That’s it folks, drive safe.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 18, 2009 11:14 PM EDT reply actions
and joel outpitched porcello
and got the loss because his defense failed him.
- "I went at it and didn’t slow down, so it kind of bounced off me." -Lil' Dunc
I don't know about that
as much as Pineiro was hurt by his defense, so was Porcello. He only gave up 1 XBH all game and that was to the last batter he faced.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 19, 2009 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Thursty had a couple of tough tries......
Tony tried to get Leland to pull his lefty, it didn’t work……..
Hitting Rick against a guy throwing 40% change ups just shows weak our bench is……. HC
good point.
I’m pretty impressed with luddy’s performance tonight; usually, change-up pitchers own him.
- "I went at it and didn’t slow down, so it kind of bounced off me." -Lil' Dunc
yup, that's a nice quick summary alright
but overall, i’m pleased we took 2 of 3 from detroit after how we had been playing lately. hopefully we can do the same vs kc.
First Thursday loss of the season if I am not mistaken
Well that’s it. I can’t take it any more. If this team can’t be counted on to win ever single frickin’ Thursday, what’s the point? Mo should just sell off AP (who is ridiculous, by the way), AW, and whoever else anyone will take for Derek Jeter, Jose Reyes, Gary Sheffield, Pedro Martinez, Matt Holiday, Miguel Tejada, and Jake Peavy. At least that way we would have the most exciting team and have some sense of cosistency.
/sarcasm-was this tag necessary?
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