Game 66 Open Thread- 17th June, 2009
by the red baron on Jun 18, 2009 6:19 PM EDT
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Detroit Tigers at St. Louis Cardinals, Jun 17, 2009 8:15 PM EDT
E. Jackson The Colonel
The Tigers' attack
No match for our birds of prey
Dirt can't save you now
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"Dirt can't save you now"
there’s a poetry prize in this for you.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Jun 17, 2009 6:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Let's start with some good news shall we...
TLR will be an All-Star coach this year, per Yahoo! Sports. Charlie Manuel picked TLR and Torre as his two coaches. So hopefully we’ll have 2 starters, a few pitchers, and Tony!
Yes, I am a proud to be a Hyperventilating Prospect Geek.
by mtzxc on Jun 17, 2009 6:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sweet!
At least our guy will be in there to make sure Albert gets a quality AB in a crucial situation…..
by goodymobb on Jun 17, 2009 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know a lot...
of people don’t care about the ASG b/c it’s not “real,” but I was furious at TLR when Rowand wasn’t called back…. maybe more furious than I have been at anything else he’s ever done.
by guayzimi on Jun 17, 2009 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not even this?
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 17, 2009 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I took 1993-2002...
off from being a Cards fan. What’d he do?
by guayzimi on Jun 17, 2009 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
PH Kerry Robinson for Mark McGwire in order to sac bunt
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 17, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still don't like it
That is not how you end a career, and McGwire just had to time one pitch to possibly win that game….I really don’t like thinking about this, back to my drink.
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Jun 17, 2009 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
Imagine if La Russa pulled back Pujols so Thurston could pinch-bunt. How would everybody feel?
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 17, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think anyone could argue with wanting Tony's head if that happened
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Jun 17, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I bet there's at least one poster on this blog who would
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 17, 2009 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Imagine if Tony pulled back Ludwick so Brendan Ryan could pinch-hit instead
There's no "I" in team. There's also no "I" in "B-g Mac Land".
by mattybobo on Jun 17, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
related note from mlb.com announcement
Keeping an eye on the players, St. Louis head athletic trainer Barry Weinberg and Chicago Cubs director of athletic training Mark O’Neal will tend to the NL All-Stars
by ubeddie on Jun 17, 2009 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
good god I can't believe the MLB Players Union
signed off on Barry effin’ Weinberg et al.
by goodymobb on Jun 17, 2009 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Our new Secret Weapon
12 all stars end up hitting the DL for August. Cards build 15 game lead.
by ubeddie on Jun 17, 2009 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Honestly, I would say it has to do
with Barry and Mark O’Neal having experience working in St. Louis. It wouldn’t make sense to have the Dodgers or Marlins head trainers come all the way to STL and not know the landscape of the medical community in town only to have a player get severely injured. This seems more of a logistics choice than a performance choice…
Yes, I am a proud to be a Hyperventilating Prospect Geek.
by mtzxc on Jun 17, 2009 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ENOUGH
with your logic and objectivity.
Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 18, 2009 6:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess he wanted all the ASG experience in the dugout he could get
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 17, 2009 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I haven't paid attention
Does the hometown host’s manger normally get picked?
by Evilfrog on Jun 17, 2009 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep...
"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra
by The Ol Goaler on Jun 17, 2009 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well let's take a look...
here are the locations and hometown host coach picks (if applicable) picked within the past 10 years.
2008 – New York, Yankee Stadium, Joe Torre was picked as a coach by Terry Francona
2007 – San Francisco, AT&T Park, Bruce Bochy was picked by TLR
2006 – Pittsburgh, PNC Park, Jim Tracy was picked by Phil Garner
2005 – Detroit, Comerica Park, Alan Trammel was picked by Terry Francona
2004 – Houston, Minute Maid Park, Jimy Williams was picked by Jack McKeon
2003 – Chicago, US Cellular Field, Jerry Manuel was picked by Mike Scioscia
2002 – Milwaukee, Miller Park, No hometown host manager pick
2001 – Seattle, Safeco Field, Lou Pinella was picked by Joe Torre
2000 – Atlanta, Turner Field, Bobby Cox was the manager
1999 – Boston, Fenway Park, Jimy Williams was picked by Joe Torre
So long story short, yes, it is normal for the hometown manager to be picked…unless your from Wisonsin. =)
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by mtzxc on Jun 17, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lineup tonight
2B Skip Schumaker
CF Colby Rasmus
1B Albert Pujols
LF Chris Duncan
RF Ryan Ludwick
C Yadier Molina
3B Joe Thurston
P Todd Wellemeyer
SS Tyler Greene
by ubeddie on Jun 17, 2009 6:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Amazing lineup
St. Louis relievers... defying win expectancy since 2008
http://www.drivelinemechanics.com/
by vivaelpujols on Jun 17, 2009 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wouldn;t go that far
but I like it.
That being said: COMMENCE SHUTOUT.
"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah
by Alxfritz on Jun 17, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This will be the day...
That we look back at the end of the season and say, “That was the game that Ludwick turned it around.”
by Evilfrog on Jun 17, 2009 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I never like seeing Duncan starting (unless at DH) over Ankiel...but this is ok
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jun 17, 2009 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is that what Ank told you?
/not a fan of TLR’s “day off” policy
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jun 17, 2009 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dirt may not be able to save them
But Edwin Jackson is a pretty good start…
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 17, 2009 6:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
wellemeyer starts
edwin jackson counterpunch
what is in the cards?
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 17, 2009 7:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
tv blackout
is there a reason that the last two games have been blacked out on fsn? this is really aggravating not being able to watch baseball now after everything so far has been fine. i live in champaign if that helps matters at all.
by Chicago Cardinals on Jun 17, 2009 8:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
it is probably your cable company's fault
a couple of the cable providers have about 20 games this year that they are blacking out. There are quite a few here that feel your pain.
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Jun 17, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
not what i wanted to hear but probably the best news i could hope for thanks
by Chicago Cardinals on Jun 17, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder how pissy Al will be tonight
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 17, 2009 8:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
depends on
how good of a night colby has
by prophetjohn on Jun 17, 2009 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
intermingling?
i’m more of a fan of extramingling. or even intramingling
but intermingling? talk about gay
by prophetjohn on Jun 17, 2009 8:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yay baseball!
hooray south-siders! go tribe! go birds!
i can’t believe the cards are only a game out. amazing.
by Scarecrow7775 on Jun 17, 2009 8:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
why are they broadcasting from there?
by Scarecrow7775 on Jun 17, 2009 8:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
cmon cards, turn on the heat
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 17, 2009 8:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Whoa
Welley touched 94 on the second pitch of the game. Good!
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 17, 2009 8:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
about to post that
We’ll see where his next FB is at. Of course he totally missed on that pitch.
by TheBirds on Jun 17, 2009 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A bird of prey cannot open fire when she's cloaked!
Anyway. It would be nice to see a continuation of last night’s offensive exploits? What say you, Los Vivi Birders?
There's no "I" in team. There's also no "I" in "B-g Mac Land".
by mattybobo on Jun 17, 2009 8:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
clearly you haven't seen the undiscovered country yet
by Scarecrow7775 on Jun 17, 2009 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
All things being equal, Mr. Scarecrow7775, I would agree with you. All things, however, are not equal.
There's no "I" in team. There's also no "I" in "B-g Mac Land".
by mattybobo on Jun 17, 2009 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Groan
Gets him to 1-2, walks him. Bad start (even with a 94 and a 93 in there)
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 17, 2009 8:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
making the colonel work
let’s go, welley
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 17, 2009 8:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
93
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 17, 2009 8:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
93-MPH sinkers...
tough to hit!
"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra
by The Ol Goaler on Jun 17, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
does anyone notice any mechanical changes the colonel may have made?
by Scarecrow7775 on Jun 17, 2009 8:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
not watching TV
but I recall in one of his recent well-pitched games he was making a point of starting his windup with his hands over his head.
by nota bene on Jun 17, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's cut down on his windup...
…& trying to go “straight” towards the plate (as opposed to throwing “across” his body.)
"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra
by The Ol Goaler on Jun 17, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
some t-storms headed down 70
I bet we’ll get 5+ in but the late innings may get dicey
by nota bene on Jun 17, 2009 8:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sure hope Porcello gets shelled tomorrow...
/kozmanaut
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jun 17, 2009 8:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Throw strikes, Welley
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 17, 2009 8:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
heh, he can nibble against Cabrera
i won’t begrudge him for that.
by TheBirds on Jun 17, 2009 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Need more noms
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 17, 2009 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
K
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 17, 2009 8:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I do believe Cabrera has dropped some lbs
not that it helped him there
by Scarecrow7775 on Jun 17, 2009 8:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
that's one way to back him off the plate
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 17, 2009 8:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
wait
so the cardinals crashed through on wainwright?
dow does that work?
by prophetjohn on Jun 17, 2009 8:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
nice pitch
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 17, 2009 8:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Welley at 25 pitches......
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 17, 2009 8:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
lots of 3-2 counts
the second coming of Mike Morgan
by Scarecrow7775 on Jun 17, 2009 8:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
welley 2K
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 17, 2009 8:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
sounds like
the worst video game ever
by prophetjohn on Jun 17, 2009 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
lol
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 17, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rec
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 17, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We're in the Welley-ennium
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 17, 2009 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
28-pitch innings make baby Jesus cry
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 17, 2009 8:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
on the other hand
not giving up runs in any giving inning… that’s about all we can ask from Welley, pitch-count be damned
by Scarecrow7775 on Jun 17, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lets see if Tony's crazy expirement of starting Ludwick works out
by TheBirds on Jun 17, 2009 8:30 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Wow, wonder what Gday thought of that strike.
by TheBirds on Jun 17, 2009 8:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
"Don't swing at pitches outside the zone" ????
is that advice to a MLB team or a high school team?
by Scarecrow7775 on Jun 17, 2009 8:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ANY team...
(unless your name is Yogi Berra, Vlad Guerrero, etc.)
"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra
by The Ol Goaler on Jun 17, 2009 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes, but do MLB hitter need to be told that
base on performance, I guess I’d have to say “yes”
by Scarecrow7775 on Jun 17, 2009 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Question of whether "plate discipline"
is a learned skill, or not… (I think it is, but hard to do the further along one goes in pro ball…)
"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra
by The Ol Goaler on Jun 17, 2009 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
colby got robmus
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 17, 2009 8:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
"I feel nothing"
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 17, 2009 8:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
are you looking for a "that's what she said"?
by TheBirds on Jun 17, 2009 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
give me a break
that’s what Albert said when he hits long home runs
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 17, 2009 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seems like we took a few strikes that half-inning
Maybe we’re starting to be more patient?
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 17, 2009 8:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
over/under on Welley's pitch count for this inning
20
by Scarecrow7775 on Jun 17, 2009 8:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
One pitch, one out...
helps the under!
"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra
by The Ol Goaler on Jun 17, 2009 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm gonna guess 16
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 17, 2009 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Push
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 17, 2009 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
FAIL
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 17, 2009 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow
very efficient so far
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 17, 2009 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe we should do this every inning
by Scarecrow7775 on Jun 17, 2009 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
how many was that?
9?
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 17, 2009 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
10
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by gocards62 on Jun 17, 2009 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it was 9
He was at 28 after 1, at 37 now
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by jd is legend on Jun 17, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
now that was a fast out
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 17, 2009 8:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ok, it worked last time
over/under on runs this inning?
2
by Scarecrow7775 on Jun 17, 2009 8:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Push
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 17, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting to SEE the Cards now that I am back in Japan with access to AFN media.
Overall the team looks sluggish – despite yesterday’s slugfest. Sort of reconfirms the impression that I’ve had listening this year. Is sluggish an accurate perception?
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
by akaitori on Jun 17, 2009 8:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yesterday did not look sluggish
i would have preferred the term feckless to describe the O, but that’s just me. Sluggish, incapable, feckless, depressing, whatever floats your boat.
Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
by jacksonian on Jun 17, 2009 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dunc whiffs. . . Surprise
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
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by akaitori on Jun 17, 2009 8:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ludwick?
did we just trade for this guy or something?
by Scarecrow7775 on Jun 17, 2009 8:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
he is going up against one of the best pitchers in the AL
fwiw
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 17, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow!
Al just said that Rasmus should be playing every day
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 17, 2009 8:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I cant pick up his sarcasm on the air.
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by The_teague on Jun 17, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is the new offense?
same as the old offense.
by TheBirds on Jun 17, 2009 8:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Anybody notice the huge amount of moths swarming on the field tonight?
Two times they have shown Tony swatting at them.
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by The_teague on Jun 17, 2009 8:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Isn't Larue Wellly's personal catcher?
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by akaitori on Jun 17, 2009 8:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Glad he's NOT, now!
Atta boy, Yadi!
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by The Ol Goaler on Jun 17, 2009 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
YAMO!
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by jacksonian on Jun 17, 2009 8:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
YADI!!!!
knew that one was going out
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 17, 2009 8:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yadi!!!!
Huzzah!!!!
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by jd is legend on Jun 17, 2009 8:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
turned around that 95 MPH Fastball
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by gocards62 on Jun 17, 2009 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Twas up,
but not up enough!
"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra
by The Ol Goaler on Jun 17, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice, Yadi - maybe a new day . . .
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
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by akaitori on Jun 17, 2009 8:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
anyone surprised Thursty offered at the first one?
something new, though. A bunt attempt
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by gocards62 on Jun 17, 2009 8:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Bunting with two outs and no one on?
We do that way too much.
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by The_teague on Jun 17, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
After watching Thirsty
ground out on 97 MPH heat, I’ll give him a pass on the 2-out bunt… (grin)
"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra
by The Ol Goaler on Jun 17, 2009 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Everett's bunt
weas ‘cause he can’t hit!
"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra
by The Ol Goaler on Jun 17, 2009 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he was just trying to catch them off guard
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 17, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he could do that by swinging at the second pitch
and taking the first one
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by gocards62 on Jun 17, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
there's a lot of options
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 17, 2009 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He would have got on if he kept if fair
by YesWeOquendo on Jun 17, 2009 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thing that bothers me is that the pitcher is still on deck
So unless there is a much better of a chance of Thursty getting on base through a bunt (which I doubt), he might as well just swing the bat and hope to get an XBH.
by TheBirds on Jun 17, 2009 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
D'oh
Micah Owings just hit a 3-run HR to put the Reds on top of ATL 4-2. I think when judging Micah Owings as a valuable pitcher on your team, you have to include his hitting ability. Like take his OPS given up, and subtract (his batting OPS * 1/9). That will give a more accurate count of what he does.
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by jd is legend on Jun 17, 2009 8:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
nice play there
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 17, 2009 8:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What's wrong with Welley?
he’s getting quick outs. I’m concerned
by Scarecrow7775 on Jun 17, 2009 8:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm wondering what's right with Welly
He looks the same to me.
by TheBirds on Jun 17, 2009 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dear lord, Albert let some of those danger zone throws go. . ..
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
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by akaitori on Jun 17, 2009 8:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The Tribe is threatening to tie up Brew Crew though
by Scarecrow7775 on Jun 17, 2009 8:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
maybe Derosa will hit another home run
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 17, 2009 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
colonel 3000
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history tells us again and again how GOB points out the folly of man
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 17, 2009 8:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What's cooler than being cool?
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 17, 2009 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
taking rap to the year 3000
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 17, 2009 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
crap
at least it was a solo shot
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 17, 2009 8:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Damn
Granderson is turning into the new Ricky Henderson
by Scarecrow7775 on Jun 17, 2009 8:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The colonel giveth
The colonel taketh away
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 17, 2009 8:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
good news though.
tribe just tied it up vs suppan. 3-3 in through 4.
Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
by jacksonian on Jun 17, 2009 8:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ok welley
don’t throw it right down the middle
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 17, 2009 8:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hmmm, thigh high right down the middle?
by Scarecrow7775 on Jun 17, 2009 8:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
"I never had the problem of being a cerebral pitcher out there"
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 17, 2009 8:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Welly just doesn't have good stuff, the guy can't make a mistake with out getting creamed
and he makes a lot of mistakes.
by TheBirds on Jun 17, 2009 8:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
and away we go. . . . .
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by akaitori on Jun 17, 2009 8:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
second time through the order
this smells bad
by Scarecrow7775 on Jun 17, 2009 8:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Smellemeyer . .
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
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by akaitori on Jun 17, 2009 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
cmon welley
just get one more out
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 17, 2009 8:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hmm 4 inning outing today?
is it bad i hope he gets pulled soon?
by FunkeeC on Jun 17, 2009 8:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey now
He had a no-hitter through 2.2
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by jd is legend on Jun 17, 2009 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and how many pitches did he use to get that far?
how many u think he has left in the tank?
by FunkeeC on Jun 17, 2009 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thames is a mistake hitter
Welly is a mistake pitcher…
Oh boy.
by TheBirds on Jun 17, 2009 8:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
the problem seems to be throwing the ball down the middle does not miss bats
The Redbirds are of the highest priority to me... As it should be
by ANDYAK47 on Jun 17, 2009 8:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
seems to be an easy problem to fix, doesnt it wellemeyer?
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by The_teague on Jun 17, 2009 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Get this guy
and rattle some bats, boys!
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by The Ol Goaler on Jun 17, 2009 8:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
the colonel needs to get his groove back
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 17, 2009 9:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
idk
it has always seemed to me that welly does not have command
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by ANDYAK47 on Jun 17, 2009 9:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
he did last season
in his one good season
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 17, 2009 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He has the same command he's always had
Only this year, his misses are right down broadway
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by jd is legend on Jun 17, 2009 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seems to me he IS in his groove
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by akaitori on Jun 17, 2009 9:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
that last guy barely checked his swing
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 17, 2009 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
how is he doing down in AAA?
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by ANDYAK47 on Jun 17, 2009 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
64 through 3 not good
still……..
no runs
and getting out of jams
by YesWeOquendo on Jun 17, 2009 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
One run
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 17, 2009 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
there we go
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 17, 2009 9:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ground ball
thank goodness
The Colonel owes Schumaker & Greene a beer.
by nota bene on Jun 17, 2009 9:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Skip flipping that to second rather than taking it himself
almost gave me a heart attack. I worry to much, and I just expect everything to go wrong that can. I couldn’t believe Welly was actually going to get out of that inning.
by TheBirds on Jun 17, 2009 9:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
same here dude
The Redbirds are of the highest priority to me... As it should be
by ANDYAK47 on Jun 17, 2009 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that home run was well placed
given the context
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 17, 2009 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if you are going to give a home run and pitch terrible
might as well do it in that order.
by TheBirds on Jun 17, 2009 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he got kinda lucky there
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 17, 2009 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wooo hit!
you really need to work on your OBP though, Tyler
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 17, 2009 9:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey, hits count toward OBP
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 17, 2009 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
true
so it’s over .300 now
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 17, 2009 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
nice D, Tigers
thanks for the WS, btw
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 17, 2009 9:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
heh
what is it with the Tigers and throwing errors @ Busch….
by nota bene on Jun 17, 2009 9:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh god, can we please broadcast from the booth from now on please....
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by The_teague on Jun 17, 2009 9:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
wait till that guy has a few more beers in him.
by TheBirds on Jun 17, 2009 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
heh
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 17, 2009 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Such a pretty wife sitting with that man...
Its a shame, really….Atta boy Rasmus
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by The_teague on Jun 17, 2009 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm guessing
she must drink a lot, too.
by DiscoJer on Jun 17, 2009 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
idiocracy!
it’s got what plants crave
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 17, 2009 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yah
these guys always talk about the stupidest stuff but jeeeeez. any more mentions of the champions club and its going on mute
by dugmartsch on Jun 17, 2009 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
would the grounder Schumaker hit
have been a double play without the E1?
by nota bene on Jun 17, 2009 9:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
tonights broadcast from the champions club
Is really goddamn annoying. I mean the broadcasts are always insip but this i’m about to mute this crap.
by dugmartsch on Jun 17, 2009 9:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
razzles!
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 17, 2009 9:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah Colby!
Keep the inning going for Al!
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 17, 2009 9:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Rasmus gets robbed in the first
Gets jammed in the 3rd for the RBI single
by Evilfrog on Jun 17, 2009 9:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
with runner aboard
lets not get too crazy
by Expatcardfan on Jun 17, 2009 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
watch it, buddy
you don’t want a 1000 fans charging you on the field
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 17, 2009 9:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
haha, I have this mental image
of albert getting plunked in the head and then a riot ensues on the field, and someone comes out of the scrum with Jacksons severed head on a pike
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by dcfcblues on Jun 17, 2009 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol!
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 17, 2009 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Coach Leyland?
“I’m part of the mob!”
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 17, 2009 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
now I have a mental image
of someone bringing a pike to a baseball game, sort of like steve carrol in anchorman
by YesWeOquendo on Jun 17, 2009 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hahahaha, yea
after I typed that. I was like…who the hell brings a pike to a baseball game?
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by dcfcblues on Jun 17, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Brick, where did you get a hand grenade?"
Steve Carrell – “I don’t know”
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by The_teague on Jun 17, 2009 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
forget a fan riot
if Pujols gets pissed he will hit a 900-run homer. If you doubt him he might hit two. In the same at bat.
by nota bene on Jun 17, 2009 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tony got hit in the head twice
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 17, 2009 9:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yikes
ATG Jackson’s strike 1 to Pujols is a fastball (@ 95)….it started over the inside edge of the plate and tailed a few inches towards Pujols….that’s tough to hit, I’m impressed (if that trace is accurate) that even Pujols managed to foul it off….
by nota bene on Jun 17, 2009 9:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
he's pounding that inside part of the plate
by Expatcardfan on Jun 17, 2009 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
does his fastball really tail into RHB like that?
it looks like a screwball
by nota bene on Jun 17, 2009 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's what I thought
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 17, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
seriously
it looks like it broke the wrong way. GD sez 4" break, 13" pfx, whatever that’s worth.
I haven’t been at the computer all game—I keep wandering off to do other stuff—so that AB was the first time I was really watching GD closely….does Jackson feature that reverse breaking pitch or what?
by nota bene on Jun 17, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
damn
he keeps pitching up and in
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 17, 2009 9:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I remember last year
Albert hit a line drive that was literally 3 inches from killing Edwin Jackson.
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by dcfcblues on Jun 17, 2009 9:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Great PA, Al
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 17, 2009 9:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dig the new sig.
Did you see that the Braves do, in fact, put OBP on the scoreboard?
Mang Says...
"There is no "I" in team, or in B g Mac Land, either."
by all4tookie on Jun 17, 2009 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 17, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
apparently they've been doing it for awhile
if Marcus Giles is on the scoreboard
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by dcfcblues on Jun 17, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
Furcal, Giles, Andruw Jones, Franco, Estrada, Kelly Johnson in LF (maybe?)
Probably 2005
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 17, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Duncan is back to being terrible
:(
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by dcfcblues on Jun 17, 2009 9:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
a lot of guys look terrible against edwin jackson
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 17, 2009 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and a nice loud f bomb
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
by punchinjudy on Jun 17, 2009 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
made him work, Apu
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 17, 2009 9:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Damn it Dunc
We had him on the ropes! Make him throw a pitch or two!
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 17, 2009 9:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Duncan is not a #4 hitter
and yes, I was watching yesterday.
by TheBirds on Jun 17, 2009 9:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This phrase is on the tip of my tongue
I can’t think of it, but I think it somehow involves acorns and blind squirrels. Any help? :P
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 17, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ugh...telling juxtaposition
Albert makes Jackson labor and almost gets himself plunked in the head to do it, Dunc comes up hacking and just gives his PA away.
by mattyp on Jun 17, 2009 9:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
welley
you want a double play right about now
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 17, 2009 9:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Here comes Todd to give the Tigers that run right back...
sigh
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by The_teague on Jun 17, 2009 9:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yay
signing old lady boots!
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 17, 2009 9:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
should i feel bad that i have no idea what relevance these people have as cardinals?
by dugmartsch on Jun 17, 2009 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Al Hrabosky was actually a player
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 17, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and isn't this Ricky Horton talking, also?
who was a mediocre pitcher in the late 80’s for Whitey?
by Expatcardfan on Jun 17, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh yeah
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 17, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
of all the former players of the last 20-25 years, who would you most like up there?
Mark Whiten comes to mind. Or Ray Lankford.
by Expatcardfan on Jun 17, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Big Mac
lulz
"If on-base percentage is so important, then why don't they put it up on the scoreboard?" - Jeff Francouer
by jd is legend on Jun 17, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Willie is too nice. I want some sort of jackass in the booth.
by Expatcardfan on Jun 17, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it would be cool if they had a different guest announcer every series
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 17, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I could dig a Mark Whiten/Ray Lankford announcing team
I’d go with Willie McGee and Mike Matheny
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 17, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if we're going for sheer comedic value
I’d say nobody could top Andujar….
by nota bene on Jun 17, 2009 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
how did i forget this?
Hands down my pick
by Expatcardfan on Jun 17, 2009 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
how about Andujar/Keith Hernandez duo
granted we’d have to steal Keith back from the Mets, but who knows
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 17, 2009 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
how about Terry Pendleton/Jack Clark?
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 17, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So Taguchi/Ray King
Forget as an announcing team. I want to see that sitcom!
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by jd is legend on Jun 17, 2009 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
lol
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 17, 2009 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yah i figured since he never shuts up about it.
by dugmartsch on Jun 17, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
which begs the question
why did you ask?
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