Game 64 Overflow Thread
by azruavatar on Jun 14, 2009 9:56 PM EDT
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It'd be nice to see the Cardinals at least aspire to make this game dramatic.
Honestly, if I'm DeWitt or Mozeliak, this club doesn't look like a contender to me. There's no way I blow prospects or additional money on a Mark DeRosa or a Adrian Beltre. They aren't the difference between the playoffs and watching TV in October. This offense needs to shape up in a hurry.
Alright Cards, let's hold em and then get some hits.
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i christen this thread
the “win the game/don’t suck at hitting any more thread.”
cardinals are the things with feathers that perch within the soul.
by ilrosso on Jun 14, 2009 9:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Perez is looking electric
coulda posted first but didn’t feel like it
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 14, 2009 9:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
St. Louis relievers... defying win expectancy since 2008
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by vivaelpujols on Jun 14, 2009 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and then he goes headhunting
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 14, 2009 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I almost made a "first" joke having to do with Yadi's first hit
But I couldn’t make it funny, so I abstained.
by mojowo11 on Jun 14, 2009 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're showing more restraint than our hitters
by ducttape16 on Jun 14, 2009 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Sorry meant to say batters...
I owe an apology to the word hitter.
by ducttape16 on Jun 14, 2009 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
good for you
that first stuff is so bcb. If you’re gonna do that you might as well throw back homerun balls and toss garbage on the field.
I have a very, umm...photographic brain. A lot like Ansel Adams but in color and with a lot more, uh.....insertion and pubic hair.
by Tackle Box on Jun 14, 2009 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
actually, it's more slashdot, 1998, than BCB, 2009
but it was lame, even then. I can’t believe anyone on the internet is still doing that.
- "I went at it and didn’t slow down, so it kind of bounced off me." -Lil' Dunc
by SleepyCA on Jun 14, 2009 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll take your word on the slashdot thing.
I don’t think I “owned” a computer until 2000.
I have a very, umm...photographic brain. A lot like Ansel Adams but in color and with a lot more, uh.....insertion and pubic hair.
by Tackle Box on Jun 14, 2009 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Excellent idea, taking his word for it.
Trust me, if you happened to be one of the few thousand people back in the day who would download various bits of files off the old usenet system, you would totally remember the culture that produced people being excited to say, “first” any time a new anything popped up. Hell, back in those days, whichever one of us posted, “first!” may literally have been the actual first to do something.
I admit it; I sort of miss all the alt.net boards. The amount of hours I spent in my life scanning through text-based file directories, looking for the one chunk of a screen capture that I didn’t yet have… Ah, memories.
You can't teach a hammer to love nails.
by the red baron on Jun 15, 2009 2:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There's so much pressure
when you’re breaking the seal on a new thread.
Guys like Bradley are exactly why we can't have a pumpkin patch anymore.
by liam on Jun 14, 2009 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
do you mean posting first
or posting “first”?
cardinals are the things with feathers that perch within the soul.
by ilrosso on Jun 14, 2009 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Umps really need to be held accountable for missing balls and strikes
Bang bang plays I can see. But the guy sees 200+ pitches a game. And some these called strikes aren’t just a bit outside.
by Evilfrog on Jun 14, 2009 9:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
seriously
They have the technology.
And as I said a second ago, it is just plain dumb that MLB has this defined strike zone, yet the guys who call the came can tinker with the explicitly-defined rules as they see fit, even during the course of the same game.
by goodymobb on Jun 14, 2009 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They're using pitch f/x for that now
Since it’s in all the stadiums already and works better than questec, I guess.
Guys like Bradley are exactly why we can't have a pumpkin patch anymore.
by liam on Jun 14, 2009 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So
when I look at T. Greene’s at-bat on gameday, the strike zone rectangle just doesn’t show up, and there are no paths for the pitches, just green and red circles floating there. Anybody else getting this?
There's no "I" in team. There's also no "I" in "B-g Mac Land".
by mattybobo on Jun 14, 2009 9:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That's hilarious
The umpire earned that disdain from Gameday.
Guys like Bradley are exactly why we can't have a pumpkin patch anymore.
by liam on Jun 14, 2009 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Apparently
The strike didn’t look too bad but there was no strike zone to compare it to. Strange.
There's no "I" in team. There's also no "I" in "B-g Mac Land".
by mattybobo on Jun 14, 2009 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Must've faked it
Because that was well off the plate. Like three ball-widths off.
Guys like Bradley are exactly why we can't have a pumpkin patch anymore.
by liam on Jun 14, 2009 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Perez = 1 walk per inning, at least
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jun 14, 2009 9:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
wrong
incorrect
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 14, 2009 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
pitch number 4 and 5
would have been strikes for Lee
by Evilfrog on Jun 14, 2009 9:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ryan singles
Ank walks, APu hits a 4-run HR to give us the lead??
Wait…
That doesn´t work
Yadi swings and hits a high fly ball... Endy Chavez goes back, to the track, to the wall... ITS A GUNNER!! Yadi gives St. Louis the lead in the top of the ninth!
by Paulspike on Jun 14, 2009 10:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Correct, sir
Yadi swings and hits a high fly ball... Endy Chavez goes back, to the track, to the wall... ITS A GUNNER!! Yadi gives St. Louis the lead in the top of the ninth!
by Paulspike on Jun 14, 2009 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ESPN has this game scheduled until 11
They may as well schedule Heidi after our games. And play some more Green Day.
by Expatcardfan on Jun 14, 2009 10:01 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
hopefully they can throw if over for bonus NBA coverage.....
or maybe just a Kobe-LeBron fpuppet iller infomercial? You could have puppet Kobe and puppet LeBron just hanging out in their respective towns, or maybe go back and show puppet Kobe and/or puppet LeBron when they were in high school.
Like stock rain delay programming or something.
by goodymobb on Jun 14, 2009 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
rec'd for the Heidi reference.
I have a very, umm...photographic brain. A lot like Ansel Adams but in color and with a lot more, uh.....insertion and pubic hair.
by Tackle Box on Jun 14, 2009 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They should just play those
AXE — “Girl Approved Hair” commercials to fill out the slot and make this a little bit more painful.
Guys like Bradley are exactly why we can't have a pumpkin patch anymore.
by liam on Jun 14, 2009 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I wish I could bet my life savings on Dicky's Golden Sombrero
Granted it’d probably get -1200 or so, but still
by ducttape16 on Jun 14, 2009 10:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Boog's on base
those odds just went to -2500
by ducttape16 on Jun 14, 2009 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so
please make this interesting at least
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 14, 2009 10:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If the rest of the team was hitting
Dicky would probably have an interesting amount of Ks
by ducttape16 on Jun 14, 2009 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
at least brendan is doing a weird dance as he is striking out
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 14, 2009 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that wierd dance...
were he ends up at first with a hit?
by Evilfrog on Jun 14, 2009 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
mmhmmm
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 14, 2009 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, baby
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 14, 2009 10:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ryan single
check.
I have a very, umm...photographic brain. A lot like Ansel Adams but in color and with a lot more, uh.....insertion and pubic hair.
by Tackle Box on Jun 14, 2009 10:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Weird...
Pinch hit Barden please.
V, b.
by LukeMP1186 on Jun 14, 2009 10:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Is Memphis behind, too?
Guys like Bradley are exactly why we can't have a pumpkin patch anymore.
by liam on Jun 14, 2009 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
(Our only RH batter is Jason Larue.)
Guys like Bradley are exactly why we can't have a pumpkin patch anymore.
by liam on Jun 14, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Memphis is down by 9.
(I hate the short handed bench.)
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by azruavatar on Jun 14, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
good thing we have 13 pitchers
- "I went at it and didn’t slow down, so it kind of bounced off me." -Lil' Dunc
by SleepyCA on Jun 14, 2009 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"if ankiel can somehow find a way to reach"
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 14, 2009 10:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The hilarious thing
…is that this game started with a patient four-pitch walk to Brendan Ryan.
I’m not sure anyone else saw four pitches in an at-bat after that.
by mojowo11 on Jun 14, 2009 10:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
albert walked, too
other than that, no. CGSO on 93 effing pitches. What a fucking joke of a team.
- "I went at it and didn’t slow down, so it kind of bounced off me." -Lil' Dunc
by SleepyCA on Jun 14, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
woo hoo
C’mon Ank — give us a chance
Just win
by The Duke on Jun 14, 2009 10:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
F
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 14, 2009 10:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
U
I have a very, umm...photographic brain. A lot like Ansel Adams but in color and with a lot more, uh.....insertion and pubic hair.
by Tackle Box on Jun 14, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anna Paquin you mean
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 14, 2009 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh yeah...........
I have a very, umm...photographic brain. A lot like Ansel Adams but in color and with a lot more, uh.....insertion and pubic hair.
by Tackle Box on Jun 14, 2009 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Way to screw it up Ank.
I have a very, umm...photographic brain. A lot like Ansel Adams but in color and with a lot more, uh.....insertion and pubic hair.
by Tackle Box on Jun 14, 2009 10:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Did you have that teed up in advance
I think it hit my screen before the ball was caught
Just win
by The Duke on Jun 14, 2009 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm quick I guess.
I have a very, umm...photographic brain. A lot like Ansel Adams but in color and with a lot more, uh.....insertion and pubic hair.
by Tackle Box on Jun 14, 2009 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pop up by Ankiel late in the game
Surprise.
And then Steve Phillips goes on to make sense. Wow.
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by azruavatar on Jun 14, 2009 10:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
maybe he's been reading veb
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 14, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no he wasn't
He said they should put Duncan in.
St. Louis relievers... defying win expectancy since 2008
http://www.drivelinemechanics.com/
by vivaelpujols on Jun 14, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ankiel hasn't been able to get around on Lee's stuff all night
He’s looked tragically lost. Someone different makes sense to me, even if it is another LH batter.
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by azruavatar on Jun 14, 2009 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Totally disagree...
this looks like a an 84-88 win team. With an upgrade or two it could be an 86-90 winner.
Good chance that will make a difference.
by guayzimi on Jun 14, 2009 10:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
reply fail
Brought to you by Karl's Jr.
by The_teague on Jun 14, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is it really a reply fail if guayzimi is commenting on the actual content azruavatar wrote above?
There's no "I" in team. There's also no "I" in "B-g Mac Land".
by mattybobo on Jun 14, 2009 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes.
Brought to you by Karl's Jr.
by The_teague on Jun 14, 2009 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it is if he's talking about his own "reply fail".
I have a very, umm...photographic brain. A lot like Ansel Adams but in color and with a lot more, uh.....insertion and pubic hair.
by Tackle Box on Jun 14, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
post fail****
is what I ended up getting…
Brought to you by Karl's Jr.
by The_teague on Jun 14, 2009 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This offense looks terrible for about a month now
You’ve got holes at 3rd and 2nd and the corner outfielders aren’t hitting. SS and CF have been great defensively but offensively they aren’t going to carry the team. Molina is having a down year. I just don’t see how this team is a player or two away from being good.
I don’t trust the back end of the rotation and the bullpen is bipolar.
This looks like an 80-82 win team to me.
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by azruavatar on Jun 14, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree
Yes, the offense has looked terrible for about a month, but keep in mind that most of that month Ankiel and Ludwick were hurt. They have both shown signs of recovery, but we’ve been hasty to write them off because we were so desperate for them to be themselves the day they came back from injury.
If we fill our hole at third, we can be back to an offense similar of last year. Ryan is hitting and doing exactly what we need him to do. Rasmus is showing more and more signs of being a hitter that can make a big contribution to this team.
Our bullpen has been solid when we’re winning games. If we can get an offense that can put up for than 0 runs per game, our bullpen is about as trustworthy as you can get.
If this team can add a 3B or hitting SS and a middle-rotation pitcher (even like the Weaver trade of so many years back), there is no reason to say we’re worse than the rest of the NL central.
I think it’s easy to see our own holes and forget that every team has holes. When we can get some of these rental players for pretty cheap deals, we should be doing it now. The problem is that when they will probably wait to trade – at the deadline – might be too late.
On with the (good) youth movement!
by aet15 on Jun 14, 2009 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
With Ankiel though
he’s not going to suddenly start taking pitches and only hitting good pitches. The book is out on him now and unless teams throw him hittable pitches, it’s unlikely he’ll ever match his earlier success again.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 15, 2009 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is true
The book is out, for sure. But I do think we can begin to expect Luddy to return to decent form. And if Ankiel starts to put up fluke numbers even though the anxious plate approach, he could be an excellent trade candidate for a mid-rotation pitcher.
On with the (good) youth movement!
by aet15 on Jun 15, 2009 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
okay,
do soething awesome albert.
cardinals are the things with feathers that perch within the soul.
by ilrosso on Jun 14, 2009 10:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ha!
“I’m a little surprised they let Ankiel hit there….”
- Steve Phillips
Plus, that Dan Shulman dude just ripped on the Cards’ 3 man bench. Man, we are getting outsmarted by the ESPN Sunday Night Baseball douche crew.
by goodymobb on Jun 14, 2009 10:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hah
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by vivaelpujols on Jun 14, 2009 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hahah horrible.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
by rocKStark5 on Jun 14, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shulman might be one of only 2-3 people that I can stand on ESPN Baseball
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Jun 15, 2009 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
too bad we're not playing in a silo.
I have a very, umm...photographic brain. A lot like Ansel Adams but in color and with a lot more, uh.....insertion and pubic hair.
by Tackle Box on Jun 14, 2009 10:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
fuckaduck
St. Louis relievers... defying win expectancy since 2008
http://www.drivelinemechanics.com/
by vivaelpujols on Jun 14, 2009 10:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i'm done. watching Entourage now
I always love Ari’s suit in the episode where ‘Aquaman’ premieres.
by Expatcardfan on Jun 14, 2009 10:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
C YA
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 14, 2009 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i've missed the last week of games anyways
I’d rather channel my inner Ari. I have to talk to Canadians tomorrow, anyways.
by Expatcardfan on Jun 14, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
good luck!
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 14, 2009 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and thanks
trying to work out bad mortgage deals. better me than someone else, i figure.
by Expatcardfan on Jun 14, 2009 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you can do it!
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 14, 2009 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and also
“eh” was my attempt at spelling “aye” or whatever. like when they say “sweet touk, eh?”
by Expatcardfan on Jun 14, 2009 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's the thing with eh
it can go in a canadian direction, or an apathetic one
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 14, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
or is that the same thing?
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 14, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did you fix your phone?
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Jun 14, 2009 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
phone seems to be fixed.
took out the battery for a few minutes, put it back in, and it seems to have updated itself. next step – Canucks.
by Expatcardfan on Jun 14, 2009 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ahahaha!
did you see cliff lee let out a huge deep breath after albert?
cardinals are the things with feathers that perch within the soul.
by ilrosso on Jun 14, 2009 10:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
LUDDY
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 14, 2009 10:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
YES
JUST WHO I WANT AT THE PLATE IN A CRUCIAL SITUATION, THE STAV INFECTION!
by mojowo11 on Jun 14, 2009 10:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah Lud
Think he’s roped ’em all to the same spot, all game.
Guys like Bradley are exactly why we can't have a pumpkin patch anymore.
by liam on Jun 14, 2009 10:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
FUCUFUCUFUCUCUKKK
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by vivaelpujols on Jun 14, 2009 10:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
got steamrolled by Cliff Lee
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 14, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
how many first pitch outs
did stav have this game?
R.P.O.F.Y.M.
by BVHeck on Jun 14, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
not too happy about that
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 14, 2009 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yay
stavi
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 14, 2009 10:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
dumbdumbdumb.
the stav was not viable in such bad conditions.
cardinals are the things with feathers that perch within the soul.
by ilrosso on Jun 14, 2009 10:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How appropriate
Flies out on the first pitch.
by mojowo11 on Jun 14, 2009 10:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yep
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 14, 2009 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wouldn't surprise me.
If ankiel seen more pitches than any other Cardinal.
by Evilfrog on Jun 14, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This team is sucking my will to live
I want to go back to April when I really enjoyed watching this team.
by ducttape16 on Jun 14, 2009 10:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
april seems like such a nice place
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 14, 2009 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i wonder who
the announcers were rooting for
by prophetjohn on Jun 14, 2009 10:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yep...
We’re just fine. Juuuuuust fine…
V, b.
by LukeMP1186 on Jun 14, 2009 10:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Coincidence?
Is it a coincidence that guys have CG SO with junk on their hats? Piniero had crap on his hat during his shutout too.
by rig99 on Jun 14, 2009 10:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
could be...but it looks like it could be dirt....
its on the back too.
Brought to you by Karl's Jr.
by The_teague on Jun 14, 2009 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well we all know TLR likes to call guys out for weird substances in dominating pitching performances
Oh wait I did that wrong.
by ducttape16 on Jun 14, 2009 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that magical
“make everyone swing at the first fucking pitch dust”
Decrease runs scored?
Maybe.
Decrease winning? Never seen that proven.
-SFTU
by hazel on Jun 14, 2009 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lee is smart
only high fives with his non pitching hand
Just win
by The Duke on Jun 14, 2009 10:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
93 pitches
93 PITCHES! @$#)$(
R.P.O.F.Y.M.
by BVHeck on Jun 14, 2009 10:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
wtf
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http://www.drivelinemechanics.com/
by vivaelpujols on Jun 14, 2009 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
holy crap...
cardinals are the things with feathers that perch within the soul.
by ilrosso on Jun 14, 2009 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is reason to fire mcrae
or something. someone has to change up the hitting
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 14, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i've been thinking the same
though im just looking for someone to blame since blaming the players isnt producing any results for me…
R.P.O.F.Y.M.
by BVHeck on Jun 14, 2009 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
FIX real simple
Skip sucks Sucks
Ank
Lud- Needs to stop sucking
Stav- Sucks
Greene- Both of them suck
OK lets go get better players and not fire a coach
by ICbirdfan on Jun 14, 2009 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whatever Works
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 14, 2009 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't get the crossouts...
what am I missing?
V, b.
by LukeMP1186 on Jun 14, 2009 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know why the crossouts happened?
by ICbirdfan on Jun 14, 2009 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's auto formatting based on dashes
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by azruavatar on Jun 14, 2009 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so you're sayin skip doesn't suck at hitting?
that could be debatable
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 14, 2009 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i've gotta admit,
i don’t really get this mentality. i know the cardinals are sucking at hitting, but i think that’s on the players. not really the coach’s fault, imho.
cardinals are the things with feathers that perch within the soul.
by ilrosso on Jun 14, 2009 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
my mentality
is that any change could be a good thing right now. they are not showing any patience at the plate. someone needs to manage that
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 14, 2009 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So you're advocating change for the sake of change
which is fine….just trying to be clear.
Anecdotally at least, it seems like you sometimes see a nice little run after one of these little “shake ups.” I think if you fire McRae, you’re basically saying “Look guys, our offensive approach sucks, someone has to be held accountable and that’s why we fired Hal. Now pick it up fellas.”
by goodymobb on Jun 14, 2009 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
either fire him
or have someone else tell them that they need approach. whatever works
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 14, 2009 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Manny Acta can get fired from that abomination of a nationals team that he can do nothing about,
McRae can get fired for the team he works for not doing the thing that he is supposed to be telling them how to do.
Decrease runs scored?
Maybe.
Decrease winning? Never seen that proven.
-SFTU
by hazel on Jun 14, 2009 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey if you find a god of a hitting coach let me know....
Will a new hitting coach make Brenda Ryan, Nick Stavinoha, Tyler Greene, Kahlil Green, Rick Ankiel hit well?
It may take divine intervention to get those guys going.
by ICbirdfan on Jun 14, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How about I'll be the new hitting coach.
Stop swinging at the first fucking pitch every AB for starters.
Decrease runs scored?
Maybe.
Decrease winning? Never seen that proven.
-SFTU
by hazel on Jun 14, 2009 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yep, I'd start there too.
Plus, wouldn’t you want, I dunno, like a dude who was a really good hitter when he played as your hitting coach?
I dunno, just trying to think outside the box here.
by goodymobb on Jun 14, 2009 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The career stats of coaches are extremely overrated.
Dave Duncan didn’t even pitch, Billy Beane did nothing in his playing career that made him look like he’d make a good GM. Thinking outside the box would be getting a technocrat who can break down pitch f/x data and mechanics and game theory.
Decrease runs scored?
Maybe.
Decrease winning? Never seen that proven.
-SFTU
by hazel on Jun 14, 2009 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ryan is hitting .299
with a .343 OBP. What more could we ask for from him?
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by azruavatar on Jun 15, 2009 8:40 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Albert's doing the best he can
He’s not a machine…
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by Yadi2Second on Jun 15, 2009 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still don't know what the hitting coach "does"
that makes his impact so crucial.
Of course, the Cubs (and I guess the Reds) recently fired their hitting coaches, maybe for good reason, maybe just to shake things up.
Still, I mean, if you think what the coach, who may or may not really do much, is telling you is dumb, well, just don’t do it.
“Be aggressive….don’t be afraid to hack against this guy.”
“Eh, I think I’m gonna look at a strike anyway, seems like this dude has been kinda wild. Maybe I’ll coax a walk or something…leave me alone Hal, thanks.”
by goodymobb on Jun 14, 2009 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
good point
i really don’t really know what a hitting coach does either
R.P.O.F.Y.M.
by BVHeck on Jun 14, 2009 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would think
that a good hitting coach would have some sort of strategy that differs against different teams
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 14, 2009 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
see
I think the consensus is that the hitting coach maybe helps with a little film work or something, but that his impact is very minimal, which is kinda interesting, given how much credit a pitching coach (e.g., Duncan) gets in comparison.
by goodymobb on Jun 14, 2009 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so he's just kind of a figurehead
got it
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 14, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I mean I don't know if there's a published source confirming that
but that’s what I’ve always heard.
by goodymobb on Jun 14, 2009 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just think it would be interesting to find a new coach
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 14, 2009 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thing is, pitchers who are established mediocre pitchers come under DD and lower their HR/9 and get better results.
It would be difficult to apply a similar analysis to hitting coaches, but I think it would be possible.
Decrease runs scored?
Maybe.
Decrease winning? Never seen that proven.
-SFTU
by hazel on Jun 14, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
it’s tough b/c the baseline for hitters is so low (i.e., “even the best hitters fail 7 out of 10 times”), plus there’s also the different philosophical approaches (e.g., walks are not good, the first pitch you see will probably be the best pitch you see, whatever).
Seems like there too many confounds to be able to isolate the contribution of the hitting coach.
by goodymobb on Jun 14, 2009 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Honestly, I would trust MO to find a guy who has a modern approach to hitting.
Decrease runs scored?
Maybe.
Decrease winning? Never seen that proven.
-SFTU
by hazel on Jun 14, 2009 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yep....
I’d be interested in reading that job description!
by goodymobb on Jun 14, 2009 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
get a big sign
that says “quit over-swinging.”
Ankiel looks like a lumberjack, for instance.
by the Tewk on Jun 14, 2009 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
His swing honestly doesn't bother me. If he wasn't making contact (often very hard contact) i would be more concerned.
The problem I see is his pitch selection. It seems as though he is almost entirely guessing, and usually guessing fastball.
Decrease runs scored?
Maybe.
Decrease winning? Never seen that proven.
-SFTU
by hazel on Jun 14, 2009 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought this game seemed really short
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 14, 2009 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
2 hours
and, what, 7 minutes?
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Jun 14, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
now I feel like I need something to do
shoulda went to blues fest tonight I guess
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 14, 2009 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's no joel pineiro
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by dcfcblues on Jun 14, 2009 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know what we should do?
We should play the Tigers next, since we haven’t not played them in interleague play since five seasons ago.
Guys like Bradley are exactly why we can't have a pumpkin patch anymore.
by liam on Jun 14, 2009 10:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah! That sounds like a good idea.
I mean, it was a World Series match-up, so we’re like automatically rivals.
cardinals are the things with feathers that perch within the soul.
by ilrosso on Jun 14, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
it’s a rare occurence that we play them in interleague play
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 14, 2009 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just thank the lord...
we don’t have to face Kenny Rogers…
V, b.
by LukeMP1186 on Jun 14, 2009 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i still haven't forgiven him.
cardinals are the things with feathers that perch within the soul.
by ilrosso on Jun 14, 2009 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
boy, are Terrell Owens, Tiger Woods and Brett Favre really pissed
all ESPN will be talking about for the next three days is Kobe
by the Tewk on Jun 14, 2009 10:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
...poor NYY and BOS too :(
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by rocKStark5 on Jun 14, 2009 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Will we add a 14th pitcher
just to continue to make the point?
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 14, 2009 10:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Can the 14th pitcher hit? Maybe we should add one!
by ICbirdfan on Jun 14, 2009 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
as long as he's not another ankiel
zing
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 14, 2009 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ouch
that huge game vs. FL seems like a loooong time ago, no?
by goodymobb on Jun 14, 2009 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he needs to stop striking out so much
and not doing anything in the late innings.
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 14, 2009 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What scares me is that Ankiel is having a terrible year
he’s basically bring himself into a price range that we could resign him for another year. And I feel the need to slam my fingers in a door now.
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by azruavatar on Jun 14, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
there's a hyphen missing in there
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by azruavatar on Jun 14, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
welcome to the long term ankiel contract
watch him develop
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 14, 2009 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was telling
my husband that the other day. Scary.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Jun 14, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I had the same thought earlier this week.
Decrease runs scored?
Maybe.
Decrease winning? Never seen that proven.
-SFTU
by hazel on Jun 14, 2009 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dunno
He’s still a Boras client, right? He will market the shit out of him based on his power numbers in limited plate appearances (and spin it that he’s still learning and has all this untapped potential) and voila! someone in need of an OF (maybe NY?) will throw a big number at him.
by goodymobb on Jun 14, 2009 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Ollie Perez is the next Koufax,
it’s almost too easy to visualize Boras’s pitch on Ankiel as the next Babe Ruth.
Decrease runs scored?
Maybe.
Decrease winning? Never seen that proven.
-SFTU
by hazel on Jun 14, 2009 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well
at least the brewers lost too
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 14, 2009 10:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Unfortunately
while we’re playing the Tigers this week, they’ll be facing the back-end of the Tribe’s rotation.
Guys like Bradley are exactly why we can't have a pumpkin patch anymore.
by liam on Jun 14, 2009 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ah
more good luck
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 14, 2009 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
we aren't facing any lefties
so we stand a chance. though Verlander and Porcello are awesome.
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by dcfcblues on Jun 14, 2009 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh and Edwin Jackson is having a great year
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by dcfcblues on Jun 14, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Honestly I'd rather face very good power pitchers.
When you suck against them no one can blame you. It’s the bullshit soft-tossing ground balling left handed walk machines that make me stabbie
Decrease runs scored?
Maybe.
Decrease winning? Never seen that proven.
-SFTU
by hazel on Jun 14, 2009 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Porcello isn't that good
St. Louis relievers... defying win expectancy since 2008
http://www.drivelinemechanics.com/
by vivaelpujols on Jun 14, 2009 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I might worry more about the cubs
I just have this feeling the Brewers and Cardinals are both going to screw around and keep the cubs in this thing basically handing the division to them.
This is sad, but if the Cardinals don’t seem interested in winning this thing, I’m gonna silently pull for the Reds.
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by Tackle Box on Jun 15, 2009 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think they're interested.
They just not talented enough at this point in time.
On with the (good) youth movement!
by aet15 on Jun 15, 2009 6:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
at least we weren't the mets today
15-0
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 14, 2009 10:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
with Johan on the mound.
screwed my fantasy team
On with the (good) youth movement!
by aet15 on Jun 15, 2009 6:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
pitches seen
Ryan – 16
Ankiel – 14
Pujols – 17
Ludwick – 9
Stav – 9
Yadi – 4
Rasmus – 8
Greene – 12
Skip – 4
by Evilfrog on Jun 14, 2009 10:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
thanks for finding that data
Man, that is frustrating.
by goodymobb on Jun 14, 2009 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lud would have seen more if the strike zone wasn't the size of a billboard.
Decrease runs scored?
Maybe.
Decrease winning? Never seen that proven.
-SFTU
by hazel on Jun 14, 2009 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seems like everyone else (Pujols and BRyan excepted) was swinging at anything. Can't see two pitches if you ground out on #1.
Decrease runs scored?
Maybe.
Decrease winning? Never seen that proven.
-SFTU
by hazel on Jun 14, 2009 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
God especially Tyler Greene. Rage....
Decrease runs scored?
Maybe.
Decrease winning? Never seen that proven.
-SFTU
by hazel on Jun 14, 2009 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Greene
was called out looking at a ball
by Evilfrog on Jun 14, 2009 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not thinking clearly, what with destined to fail bunt attempts and 93 pitch CGs dancing in my head.
Decrease runs scored?
Maybe.
Decrease winning? Never seen that proven.
-SFTU
by hazel on Jun 14, 2009 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
encouraging for brendan ryan
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 15, 2009 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A little more info
Since this doesn’t necessarily tell me anything.
Per at bat:
1st inning:
Ryan – 1st pitch ball (FB – 2 seam) – walk – 4 pitches
Ankiel – 1st pitch ball (FB – 4 seam) – strikeout swinging – 6 pitches
Pujols – 1st pitch called strike (CB) – walk – 5 pitches
Ludwick – 1st pitch strike (FB – 4 seam) – FO 9 – 1 pitch
Stavinoha – 1st pitch called strike (CHG) – GO 5 – 5 pitches
2nd inning:
Molina – 1st pitch strike (FB – 4 seam) – GO 6 – 1 pitch
Rasmus – 1st pitch strike (FB – 4 seam) – FO 7 – 1 pitch
Greene – 1st pitch called strike (FB – 4 seam) – GO 1 – 1 pitch
3rd inning:
Schumaker – 1st pitch called strike (FB – 4 seam) – GO 1 – 2 pitches
Ryan – 1st pitch ball (FB – 4 seam) – GO 4 – 7 pitches
Ankiel – 1st pitch called strike (FB – 4 seam) – Swinging strikeout – 3 pitches
4th inning:
Pujols – 1st pitch called strike (CHG) – GO 6 – 4 pitches – 1 B 2 S
Ludwick – 1st pitch called strike (FB – 4 seam) – Swinging strikeout – 6 pitches – 2 B 2 S
Stavinoha – 1st pitch strike (FB – 4 seam) – FO 8 – 1 pitch – 0 B 0 S
5th inning:
Molina – 1st pitch ball (FB – 4 seam) – GO 5 – 1 B 0 S
Rasmus – 1st pitch called strike (FB – 4 seam) – GO 4 – 1 B 2 S
Greene – 1st pitch called strike (CRV) – Swinging strikeout – 0 B 2 S
6th inning:
Schumaker – 1st pitch strike (SLDR) – GO 6 – 1 pitch – 0 B 0 S
Ryan – 1st pitch called strike (FB – 4 seam) – GO 6 – 2 pitches – 0 B 1 S
Ankiel – 1st pitch foul (FB – 4 seam) – Strikeout looking – 3 pitches – 0 B 2 S
7th inning:
Pujols – 1st pitch called strike (FB – 4 seam) – FO 9 – 4 pitches – 1 B 2 S
Ludwick – 1st pitch strike (CHG) – GO 6 – 1 pitch – 0 B 0 S
Stavinoha – 1st pitch ball (CRV) – GO 5 – 2 pitches – 1 B 0 S
8th inning:
Molina – 1st pitch strike (CHG) – Single – 1 pitch – 0 B 0 S
Rasmus – 1st pitch ball (FB – 4 seam) – 3 pitches – 1 B 1 S
Greene – 1st pitch foul (?) – 6 pitches – 2 B 2 S
Schumaker – 1st pitch strike (FB – 2 seam) – 1 pitch – 0 B 0 S
9th inning:
Ryan – 1st pitch swinging strike (CHG) – Single – 3 pitches 0 B 2 S
Ankiel – 1st pitch swinging strike (FB – 4 seam) – FO 8 – 2 pitches – 0 B 1 S
Pujols – 1st pitch called strike (CHG) – PO 3 – 4 pitches – 0 B 0 S
Ludwick – 1st pitch swing (CHG) – FO 7 – 1 pitch – 0 B 0 S
Stavinoha – 1st pitch swing (CHG) – FO9 – 1 pitch – 0 B 0 S
Lee threw 25 first pitch strikes (of 32 batters faced) and 12 of those were called strikes (13 were swung at) and only a few of them were something other than a 4 seam fastball.
Lee also started 19 batters with fastballs (2 2-seamers and 17 4-seamers). Basically he was pumping first pitch fastballs all day long until the last inning when he switched to the Changeup (probably because he felt he was losing velocity). If you gonna see 19 first pitch fastballs and you can’t hit it, then you’re in for a long (well, short) day.
I know there’s more that can be found but it’s late and I’m tired of looking at gameday but in what I saw, I wouldn’t be surprised if 80% of the pitches he threw were 4-seam fastballs. Once again, if Cliff Lee is throwing nothing but 4-seamers, you better be swinging and you better be hitting them.
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by Tackle Box on Jun 15, 2009 2:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I never have seen a worse collection of at bats before
and I have seen several games of A ball. What a craptastic performance
by nmstar on Jun 14, 2009 11:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Rotowire is saying Khalil is getting moved to third base
It might work I guess. I mean could anything really get worst?
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 14, 2009 11:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I feel like Skip to 3B would be better...
just based on arm strength.
Decrease runs scored?
Maybe.
Decrease winning? Never seen that proven.
-SFTU
by hazel on Jun 14, 2009 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have that same feeling
what is going on
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 15, 2009 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
when i said friday night Cliff Lee would throw a perfect game, you doubted me
i knew this would happen. i’m just glad i didn’t have to live through it.
and i totally agree A, holy hell the O sucks. Beltre & DeRo are not the answers. playing out the season & blowing this mother up come winter is looking like a much better option.
fuck.
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
by gdm426 on Jun 14, 2009 11:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
and yet
we are still barely out of first place
/putting it into perspective
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 15, 2009 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
THE SHIP IS SINKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
heh
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
by gdm426 on Jun 15, 2009 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Often, throughout the game
I’ll think to myself: “We are the St. Louis Cardinals, the most storied franchise in the National League. We have the best player on the planet. And we have Player X playing Position Z. What other team in the National League would actually start this guy at Position Z?”
Most generally, Player X is Nick Stavinoha.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 14, 2009 11:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
.238/.246/.365
But he’s clutch man.
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by azruavatar on Jun 15, 2009 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Goin to STL from Indiana on Wednesday...
…and going to the game.
What should I do prior to the game itself? Headed down there early in the day.
by vexedtechie on Jun 14, 2009 11:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Who is starting?
If it isn’t Wainwright or Carpenter, I suggest drinking heavily.
If Khalil Greene is activated and starting at 3B, I suggest sniffing glue.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 15, 2009 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Kinda why I'm hoping for a rainout Tuesday...
…‘cause then I get to see the Wagonmaker…
…otherwise it’s Wellemeyer. Shall I bring a flask? haha
by vexedtechie on Jun 15, 2009 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
this might be your best reply EVER!
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Jun 15, 2009 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Al Hrabosky's and eat the beef brisket at the cart before the entrance.
Hot beer tub girls there.
Shannon rules: Beer an inning.
Post game = Patty O’s.
Dubliner = good 3am bar.
End the night at the east side, stumble out of Hollywood or Pops at 5am. Then again that’s just what I do.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
by rocKStark5 on Jun 15, 2009 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How many limbs will I have to part with to buy a beer?
by vexedtechie on Jun 15, 2009 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lots.
something like 8.50. I drank bud lite lime (perfect summer drink) at the full bar at 6.50ish? per 12oz can. Stadium bars are the same price as the stadium, like +7 for beer. East side is actually cheaper (but don’t blow all your money at the game ;-). I break off around 150-200 a game (and afterwards activities…then again I quit rehab cause it was kililng my night life. I missed you were going there mid week, everything but Patty Os will be dead after the game, the east side will still be open but dead, Pops will be pretty empty but serve 24/7.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
by rocKStark5 on Jun 15, 2009 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So come with a fat wallet. Gotcha.
Lookin’ forward to getting to my first Redbirds game… Only other MLB game I went to was 2 years ago…White Sox/Blue Jays (Buerhle v. Halladay).
by vexedtechie on Jun 15, 2009 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I drank bud lite lime (perfect summer drink)
My god – that sounds like an abomination…
Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 15, 2009 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My suggestion for things to do before the game...
1. Drink Heavily
2. Um….Drink More
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