talking trade
by lboros on Jun 12, 2009 9:33 AM EDT
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here are some random trade musings for friday morning; danup returns to the chair next tuesday.
miguel tejada?: joe strauss snuck that name into a notes column yesterday -- at the very bottom, where we might not notice it. strikes me as exceedingly unlikely to happen -- the astros (like most teams) don’t make deals within their division, and moreover they don’t view themselves as out of the race. why should they? they’re only 5 games behind the cards, just 5.5 games out of first place. if we’re in the race, so are the ’stros. . . . . but let’s just pretend this were possible; how helpful would such an acquisition be?
tejada leads the league in hitting so far this year, but that almost surely won’t continue; once the BA heads back toward the mean, what’s left? tejada still hits a lot of doubles, but since coming to the nl a year and a half ago he has only gone yard 5 times away from the astros’ cozy home park (including 0 times this season); he’s basically a gap-power hitter at this point. kinda like joe thurston. of greater concern, tejada’s defense is atrocious. according to his UZR values at fangraphs, he’s been costing his teams runs for several years and this season is at -19 runs per 150 games. presumably the cardinals envision him at 3b initially, a position he has never played in the big leagues before (although i'll grant that it’s an easy shift from ss to 3b). he might rise to the level of league-averageness at the hot corner, but if glaus does return, then tejada probably gets the everyday ss job -- and that hurts the team. over the course of two months, he’d be about 10 runs worse with the glove than brendan ryan / tyler greene; i don’t think his bat is good enough anymore to overcome that fielding deficit. tejada had a .701 ops away from houston last season, with isolated power of .087; this year his ops away from houston is .805, not all that much better than thurston’s .748.
a tejada trade would be the type of move that would satisfy la russa’s (and pujols’s) yen to add a brand-name player, but i question whether it would really make the cards better. in spite of the marquee name, i don’t see tejada as more than a modest improvement over the status quo -- and only if he stays at 3b. if he ends up playing shortstop every day, i think he makes the team worse. in the very unlikely event the astros were willing to make tejada available to a detested nl central rival, they’d surely demand premium talent in return . . . . pass.
felipe lopez?: the cards saved the guy’s career last season; maybe he could return the favor this year and bail out the cards’ flagging offense. the dbacks are 9 games under .500 and 14 games out of first; brandon webb has been disabled all year with a sore shoulder. only the washington nationals’ season is more dead than the dbacks’. lopez is on a one-year deal and would only cost the cards about $2m in additional payroll, plus a modest (and expandable) prospect. although he’s not a markedly better hitter than what we’ve seen from joe thurston, lopez is a switch hitter who punishes left-handers. his career UZR/150 at 3b is +6 runs (including +18 in his 13 games at the position for st louis last year), and he’s an average defender at 2b. he’s a more likely "get" than tejada -- and also, imho, a better fit for the cardinals.
doug davis?: this lefty starter, also dead weight on the sinking diamondback roster, might have a bigger positive impact than any 3b on the market right now. i know the cards are supposed to be looking for a hitter, not a pitcher . . . . but with lohse out and wellemeyer sucking, adding a reliable starting pitcher surely couldn’t hurt this team. davis is a pending free agent with an $8.5m salary this year and sports a 3.42 ERA; his FIP is only 4.79, but davis (like tom glavine, a similar pitcher) has a history of posting ERAs that are better than his FIP. in the st louis ballpark, i'd feel safe in projecting 6+ ip per start with a 4.00 ERA; his k rate is still good, and he’s the type of pitcher (veteran, groundballer) who tends to work well w/ dave duncan. it would probably cost the cardinals at least one young arm, and not an inconsequential one -- wave bye-bye to one or two of boggs, motte, perez, todd, etc. steep price for a rental, but given that the cards have a deep stockpile of such arms, i’d give very serious consideration to that type of a deal.
jarrod washburn?: another expensive pending free-agent lefty on a dead-end team. the mariners are playing .500 and are only about 5 games out of first, but who are they kidding? the cards reportedly made inquiries on washburn last year, and i heartily endorsed that idea; i still do. washburn is pitching for a new contract and having a fine season; he wouldn’t cost nearly as much in talent terms as his teammate erik bedard (also a pending FA), but like davis he’d bolster the rotation and give the cards a southpaw option. probably would cost at least as much as davis in talent terms.
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pitching why trade, I would at least talk to Glavine and see what he might have left considering he does want to pitch this year, couldnt be any worse the wellemeyer at this point
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by DESTROYER on Jun 12, 2009 9:49 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't be totally opposed but I think Glavine was done about 3 years ago
and he’s more than done now.
Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 12, 2009 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
have em
do a bullpen session then from what i read he was doing pretty decen in his rehab assignment before being let go
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by DESTROYER on Jun 12, 2009 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't you remember how many times Carp and Mulder did well in their rehab assignments?
In other words, don’t put too much stock into it.
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by jd is legend on Jun 12, 2009 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mulder never really did well in a rehab...
by Evilfrog on Jun 12, 2009 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thats why have him throw a simulated game and scout it out, no harm no foul, the cards dont like what they see they just end it there if they do try and workout a contract…like i said cant be any worse then Welly
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by DESTROYER on Jun 12, 2009 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I could be imagining things
but I seem to remember his “good” rehab starts being things like, “well, he lasted 5 innings and only gave up three runs. Struck out 2. Hrm…” And then there were the not-so-good rehabs.
There's no "I" in team. There's also no "I" in "B-g Mac Land".
by mattybobo on Jun 12, 2009 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ALSO
THREW LIKE 15 SCORELESS INNINGS BEFORE BEING RELEASED
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by DESTROYER on Jun 12, 2009 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
CAPITAL LETTERS DONT MAKE FRIENDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111
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by themanthemyth on Jun 12, 2009 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
SORRY IM AT WORK AND MY SYSTEM I WORK DOESNT TAKE LOWER CASE…TRUE STORY
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by DESTROYER on Jun 12, 2009 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
just joshin' ya
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by themanthemyth on Jun 12, 2009 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's awesome.
Anyway, mulder didn’t “throw like 15 scoreless innings before being released”. He got lit up at AAA, then was inexplicably promoted and got lit up at the MLB level.
- "I went at it and didn’t slow down, so it kind of bounced off me." -Lil' Dunc
by SleepyCA on Jun 12, 2009 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he got lit up
but I remember his new arm slot. it produced some wicked movement, the movement just ended up down the middle
How did the pig corner the breakfast market?
by STLRegalia on Jun 12, 2009 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so
disappointed by Mulder was a favorite of mine, and i liked the trade at the time all except losing Haren thought that was dumb to move him considering some of the other untouchable talent we had at the time that hasnt panned out now
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by DESTROYER on Jun 12, 2009 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm on the Beltre bandwagon
and if they throw in Jarrod Washburn with him, all the better.
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by dcfcblues on Jun 12, 2009 9:51 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
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by TurdFerguson on Jun 12, 2009 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No to Beltre
I think he would cost too much talent. There are several other teams in the market for 3B (Angels, Twins) and he might not be a Type A free agent afterall.
by njnick on Jun 12, 2009 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
does anyone know...
where you can find a pitchers average fastball velocity this year, compared to last? Specifically, i’m looking for Waino’s
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by dcfcblues on Jun 12, 2009 10:01 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fangraphs will tell ya
But I just looked but nothing to tell. Wainwright has been steady on everything the last 5 years. Not just speed on all his pitches but how much he throws them.
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by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 12, 2009 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bernie Miklasz wrote in his column today
that Waino’s velocity was down, but I don’t think it’s the case. So I was hoping to call him out on it but I couldn’t find the information anywhere.
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by dcfcblues on Jun 12, 2009 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bernie said both have seen a drop in velocity.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Jun 12, 2009 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The quote
From his blog:
Adam Wainwright’s velocity is down; Todd Wellemeyer’s velocity is down. You just have to hope that this isn’t related to some sort of looming physical problem …
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Jun 12, 2009 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would have to question where Bernie got the infromation
that he used to concluded that Waino’s velocity is down. It can’t be first hand information since Bernie hasn’t been traveling with the team. So it would have to be published somewhere or come from Strauss.
Correct me if I’m wrong but Wainwrights fastball sites at 91-92 and he can ramp it up to 95 right?
by Evilfrog on Jun 12, 2009 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Check FanGraphs
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http://www.drivelinemechanics.com/
by vivaelpujols on Jun 12, 2009 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
shows it at 90.7
compared to 90.1 last year and 89.4 in 07. It is lower than the 91.4 when he was in the pen.
by Evilfrog on Jun 12, 2009 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
for that matter
fangraphs shows wellemeyer as being 0.7 mph slower this year compared to last - average 92.3 last year, 91.5 this year. that’s not an insignificant dropoff, but it’s not 5 mph either.
and -- since the data are easily available, and derived from an official mlb database - would it have hurt joe strauss to take 10 seconds and fact-check wellemeyer’s quote against the pitch/FX numbers?
by lboros on Jun 12, 2009 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What do fancy schmancy stats have to do with real-life baseball stuff like year-to-year pitch velocity?
We’re not talking about numbers here, we’re talking about flesh and blood.
Too much?
There's no "I" in team. There's also no "I" in "B-g Mac Land".
by mattybobo on Jun 12, 2009 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Real baseball stuff, like velocity numbers!!!
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Jun 12, 2009 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Little numbers in the newspaper, that's not baseball,
That’s “sodookee” or whatever you call it."
by mojowo11 on Jun 12, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bernie is claiming it came from "data kept by the team"
And that such data indicates a drop of 2-3 mph for Waino
by OCCardsFan on Jun 12, 2009 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So, the team has its own radar gun?
And this radar gun is different from the pitch f/x guns?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Jun 12, 2009 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And why is the team even sharing this information?
I don’t know why we would doubt fangraphs’ objective data.
by OCCardsFan on Jun 12, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't doubt that
The TV gun and the stadium gun often disagree, for example.
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
by Valatan on Jun 12, 2009 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A velo drop of that much magnitude would be recorded in the pitch f/x data however,
because the same time frame is still being recorded.
Decrease runs scored?
Maybe.
Decrease winning? Never seen that proven.
-SFTU
by hazel on Jun 12, 2009 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's a journalist, not a blogger
he can’t be expected to do those complicated “fact-checking” things.
- "I went at it and didn’t slow down, so it kind of bounced off me." -Lil' Dunc
by SleepyCA on Jun 12, 2009 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
being a journalist must be sweet
i mean, even when someone throws the facts at you, you can just claim to have insider sources that prove otherwise and never reveal anything.
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by dcfcblues on Jun 12, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i've never seen Waino hit 95
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by dcfcblues on Jun 12, 2009 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I actually remember Wainwright hitting 95 once and only once.
It was in the 2006 postseason. Shannon said he struck out somebody with a 95 mph fastball. I was listening and not watching, and those are kind of unusual circumstances, so grains of salt aplenty.
There's no "I" in team. There's also no "I" in "B-g Mac Land".
by mattybobo on Jun 12, 2009 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He did it semi-regularly out of the pen from my memory
He can grab a 94 now from time to time as a starter, so that would seem to fall in line with me not being an idiot on this one.
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Jun 12, 2009 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I would believe he did it occasionally
But that’s the only actual memory I have of it.
There's no "I" in team. There's also no "I" in "B-g Mac Land".
by mattybobo on Jun 12, 2009 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
FanGraphs has him throwing 95 MPH one time in 07
For what that’s worth.
by mojowo11 on Jun 12, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is my new favorite graph.
this is waino’s game velocity 07-09. maybe the average speed is lurking closer to 90 than earlier, but i don’t see a huge drop.
welley on the other hand seems to show a much more dramatic drop, especially relative to a velocity peak shortly after he came off the dl last year.
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by tom s. on Jun 12, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually Perez is the one with the big drop
has not helped his control either.
by DriverZn on Jun 12, 2009 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
whoa.
you’re not kidding. after seeing this, i’m much more okay with trading him for derosa.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Jun 12, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wonder how much of this is the ankle injury from ST
that he decided to try to play through, rather than have fixed?
- "I went at it and didn’t slow down, so it kind of bounced off me." -Lil' Dunc
by SleepyCA on Jun 12, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
which ankle is it? the ankle he lands on?
or maybe the ankle is sore because of some problem elsewhere in the body – e.g., his shoulder is sore, so he has trouble getting the same velocity, so he slams down harder on his ankle to generate more velocity? everything is so interrelated, it’s hard to tell from the sidelines what’s going on.
but like Driver said, it’s not like he’s mastering his control by taking 3-4mph off his pitches.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Jun 12, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it's the ankiel that slammed into the wall
How did the pig corner the breakfast market?
by STLRegalia on Jun 12, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Bone spur on the left ankle IIRC
I have one on my right ankle now, and it definitely impacts anything I do. Even driving is difficult.
- "I went at it and didn’t slow down, so it kind of bounced off me." -Lil' Dunc
by SleepyCA on Jun 12, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you've probably got it then.
better a bone spur on the ankle than a fraying labrum.
seems like we have enough RH depth he’d be a good candidate to get the spur fixed and do a rehab stint.
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by tom s. on Jun 12, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know if its related but there was talk of "fixing his mechanics" back in spring
Duncan wanted him to be more controlled to have better control and more sink on his pitches. If that the source of the drop it clearly failed in its objective. He is walking more than ever. I’ve heard nothing about him being hurt so I don’t know what to make of it.
Motte’s graph showed a similar drop at the beginning of the year and then a sudden return to form. TBH, Motte has more variation in velocity than any other I have seen on a per-day basis.
by DriverZn on Jun 12, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the mechanics fix
was getting his slider to come out of the same arm-slot as his fastball.
by Evilfrog on Jun 12, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He is anything but "fixed"
These “fixes” sometimes work, but often cause other problems. In this case his velocity went somewhere.
by DriverZn on Jun 12, 2009 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Al Hrabosky was saying the same thing in his last start
but was referring to the FB velo being down compared to when he was pitching out of the ’pen, which is no doubt true.
Guys like Bradley are exactly why we can't have a pumpkin patch anymore.
by liam on Jun 12, 2009 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
little harder
to maintain stamina when your throwing 98 all game, unless your verlander whose been doing it for so long
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by DESTROYER on Jun 12, 2009 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm still on the DeRosa bandwagon
as unlikely as that may be at this point.
by stlhulsey on Jun 12, 2009 10:16 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
AL Central looks about as good as the NL Central
So everybody is in this till they are out
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by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 12, 2009 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm a DeRosa fan as well.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
by Eckstreem on Jun 12, 2009 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
go go dero
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 12, 2009 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tejada on his PrOPS
I for one am a big fan of Hardball Times PrOPS
Tejada’s is only .772 with his real OPS of .886 with a difference of .114 which is huge. Makes him one of the luckiest players in baseball right now.
Most people don’t know but Khalil Greene was about the unluckiest. We have actually a lot of unlucky players outside of T Greene/B Ryan connection
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by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 12, 2009 10:19 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I told guys you Khalil was unlukcy
St. Louis relievers... defying win expectancy since 2008
http://www.drivelinemechanics.com/
by vivaelpujols on Jun 12, 2009 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The problem:
Given his anxiety issues, his unluckiness wears on him mentally even more than your average ballplayer. Hopefully, he’s on the road to recovery. I still can’t help but think that a 15-day DL stint is not enough to turn things around for K-Greene. I hope I’m wrong on this point.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Jun 12, 2009 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do
I really want to see him play third when he comes back…
St. Louis relievers... defying win expectancy since 2008
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by vivaelpujols on Jun 12, 2009 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Defensively
I’m sure 3B is no problem for him – I know he played there some in college. I don’t think his bat plays there, though. In the middle of the field, you can stomach a guy that does that little if he plays good enough defense. It’s harder to take at 3B.
by Toddius on Jun 12, 2009 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He'd be a better defender then Thurston
And he would allow Thurston to move to second and Skip to move to left… hopefully. Plus, Greene has been roughly a league average hitter for most of his career when you park adjust his numbers. An average hitting, average fielding third baseman is a valuable commodity.
St. Louis relievers... defying win expectancy since 2008
http://www.drivelinemechanics.com/
by vivaelpujols on Jun 12, 2009 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
honestly
who cares about production at certain positions like that, as long as the team is winning it doesnt matter to me. and by production i mean power numbers, if he can play there defensively and other players are there for the power why does it matter. These molds that 3b is power, 1b is pwer and the OF is power is ridiculous. case im point chone figgins fast guy at 3rd no power Angles win with him
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by DESTROYER on Jun 12, 2009 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
not to piss in your wheaties
but Skip isn’t going back to left full time. TLR had a plan, and it didn’t fail, so he’ll stay at 2B, if nothing else to keep egg off the face of TLR. I could be wrong though
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by STLRegalia on Jun 12, 2009 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Average hitting for a SS
and average hitting for a 3B are not the same thing. Where are you getting your “roughly league average” from? What and where are those numbers? I’m also not sure that an average fielding, average hitting 3B is a “valuable commodity.” What is the baseline? When you say average do you truly mean average for all hitters in MLB or all 3B in MLB – or do you actually mean replacement level?
I think we just disagree about Khalil’s talent level. I don’t think he makes us any better at 3B. His highest value is if he can play SS and hit.
by Toddius on Jun 12, 2009 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
average hitting, average defense
is 2 wins above replacement level.
Khalil Greene’s career OPS+ is 94, which is very close to league average.
- "I went at it and didn’t slow down, so it kind of bounced off me." -Lil' Dunc
by SleepyCA on Jun 12, 2009 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm assuming that is not position-adjusted?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Jun 12, 2009 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no
and OPS+ overrates him because his OPS is slg-heavy.
- "I went at it and didn’t slow down, so it kind of bounced off me." -Lil' Dunc
by SleepyCA on Jun 12, 2009 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
K. Greene career wOBA
.312, according to fangraphs.
There's no "I" in team. There's also no "I" in "B-g Mac Land".
by mattybobo on Jun 12, 2009 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
stupid question
and I should do the research myself, but just don’t have time right now – how is “career wOBA” calculated?
Since wOBA is linked to the league-average OBP in each individual season, and that usually won’t be the same from season to season, I would think that you can’t just add up all the wOBA’s and weight by PA’s.
- "I went at it and didn’t slow down, so it kind of bounced off me." -Lil' Dunc
by SleepyCA on Jun 12, 2009 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was actually wondering that myself
For all we know there is heavy duty calculus involved.
There's no "I" in team. There's also no "I" in "B-g Mac Land".
by mattybobo on Jun 12, 2009 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There's always heavy duty calculus involved
Most people just don’t realize it
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I'm going back to New Orleans, to wear that ball and chain
by jd is legend on Jun 12, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
my calcus is spelled: g-o-o-g-l-e
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by STLRegalia on Jun 12, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That would at least be one average
I guess, if you wanted, you could go and re-run the numbers using raw totals for the career in question, and then averaging against the league average OBP over that same time period. I would assume that both mentods woudl give you roughly similar answers anyway.
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by Valatan on Jun 12, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
tejada sucks
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 12, 2009 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Felipe Lopez only value is against Lefties
That’s it. That is all we need really. We need a lefty killer above all. Fuck me to see that Rolen is hitting lefties with a 1.088 OPS. But so is DeRosa.
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by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 12, 2009 10:23 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I would like to see
the Cards move Chris Duncan for anything they can get for any minor leaguer they can get for him. I think he just muddles the mix of the outfield and is hurting the performance of others with a little more talent.
I say this not because I dislike Duncan; in a way I like him. I think he hustles gives and gives it his all and ocassionally comes up with a big hit. but to me the Cards have better options and better fits for his position.
by ridgesee on Jun 12, 2009 10:24 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If the Cardinals are going to go "all in"
then I’d swap for Beltre and Bedard. Both in their walk years. Both likely to be type B free agents. Beltre helps with the handedness of the lineup and Bedard gives you a third pitcher that is actually good apart from the defense. I wouldn’t want to start any of Pineiro, Wellemeyer or Lohse in a playoff game.
It’d take a huge package to get those two players but you could do it. More difficult would be whether the Cardinals could actually take on that kind of salary.
Future Redbirds - tracking Cardinal prospects for Cardinal Nation
by azruavatar on Jun 12, 2009 10:29 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm considering two key phrases in your post here
“both in their walk years” and “It’d take a huge package to get those two players”
Assuming your correct there, and it seems reasonable, well then, I wonder if that’s the best move for a franchise that’s still working on a “build from within” movement, of which I’m particularly fond of.
by Scarecrow7775 on Jun 12, 2009 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eventually, you need to cash in the prospects in surplus areas to fill needs, however
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
by Valatan on Jun 12, 2009 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone but Rasmus, Wallace, D Jones
I would be in for it. The question is what do you do with Wellemeyer?
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 12, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Spay him.
Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 12, 2009 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm not hugely keen on any of those options
Davis is severely under-rated (he’s been about average, or just under, for the last 3 or 4 years if I recall) but I’m not sure he’s worth what it would take to land him – I’d rather just run Boggs out there, as I think he’s shown considerable talent this year, rather than give up Boggs or any of our talented young relief talent. I guess (given his high-ish contract) they might sell for less. I’d give up a Lynn/Ottavino-type maybe.
Tejada is a flat out no for all the reasons above.
Lopez is intriguing – I bet he could be serviceable at 3B but he’s also been lucky this year, his numbers were boosted (last time I checked) by a .350+ BABIP, and he’s not really shown much power or any change in his plate discipline this year. He’s an option to hit vs lefties, I guess, but I’d rather have someone who is also useful against RHP and who could be a day-to-day option at 3B, so I’d have to pass unless they give us him virtually for nothing.
I’m not keen on Washburn, but I’ll admit that’s more of a subjective view than anything objective. I realise that he’s made real strides this year in his peripherals and his approach to pitching, so his improvements could very well be “real” up to a point, but you could say that to some extent about Pineiro too – I’m not sure it takes too much of a change in the opposite direction to a soft-tossing, no-true-outcomes-type pitcher before they regress back to the crappy pitcher they’ve been. That is, Washburn’s success is maybe “for real”, but that doesn’t mean it’s going to continue. If he’s a throw-in on a Beltre trade, however, then I’d be more than happy with that. He’s better than Welly, Boggs and probably Pineiro too.
Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 12, 2009 10:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
me neither
4B - beer baseball bands blog
"OOHHHHH!!!! He knocked out the I in Big Mac Land!!"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 12, 2009 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
this has to be some sort of record
for greatest disparity between word counts of a post and response.
by stlhulsey on Jun 12, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
heh
4B - beer baseball bands blog
"OOHHHHH!!!! He knocked out the I in Big Mac Land!!"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 12, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shysterball
Humorous paragraph from Craig Calcaterra’s daily “And That Happened” feature:
Trever Miller on the home run he gave up to Pujols: “That wasn’t a situation where I was going to nibble on [Pujols] at 3-1. He’s too good of a hitter, he’s not going to chase a bad pitch. He’s going to get his pitch and hit it. Unfortunately, he did.” Wait, why exactly don’t you nibble on Pujols there? He’s only going to get his pitch to hit if you give it to him, and once you’ve gone 3-1 on the guy, you really have no business giving it to him unless the bases are juiced, and maybe even then you don’t. Wait . . . unless Pujols has finally developed telekinetic powers which enable him to will fat pitches into his wheelhous (as many of us have long expected he might some day). Crap. That’s it. We’re all doomed. All hail our Pujolsian overlord.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Jun 12, 2009 10:44 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
pretty humorous if our bullpen's so bad
We can give up home runs to Albert… or maybe he’s just that good.
http://mlb.mlb.com/team/player.jsp?player_id=453192
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jun 12, 2009 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i for one welcome our new telekineticly powered overlord
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
by gdm426 on Jun 13, 2009 2:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd rather wait
and see who else shakes free. Its only mid-June, another two weeks and that list of potential players being traded will increase dramatically.
by njnick on Jun 12, 2009 10:55 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Amaury Marti.
Bring out the kraken.
Guys like Bradley are exactly why we can't have a pumpkin patch anymore.
by liam on Jun 12, 2009 10:58 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
how's he doing?
I haven’t heard anything about him in a while, and can’t easily find anything now.
It really couldn’t hurt to give him a callup, could it? If nothing else, he’d be more useful than a 13th reliever, and a RHB off the bench.
- "I went at it and didn’t slow down, so it kind of bounced off me." -Lil' Dunc
by SleepyCA on Jun 12, 2009 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doing pretty good
I think the Mexican league is somewhere around AA in talent level, but with a broader mix of quality—some guys are rookie leaguers, others easily AAA caliber.
Numbers are here. He’s hitting well.
Guys like Bradley are exactly why we can't have a pumpkin patch anymore.
by liam on Jun 12, 2009 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
good lord
.359/.414/.665 with a HR every 15 PA… what’s the poor guy gotta do to get some consideration, on a team desperate for a RHB power bat?
I mean, if nothing else, this guy could play So Taguchi and just hang out and smile a lot and pinch hit once in a while.
- "I went at it and didn’t slow down, so it kind of bounced off me." -Lil' Dunc
by SleepyCA on Jun 13, 2009 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We need to add him to the 40-man next year, I thinks
I’m not suggesting adding him as a joke. Let him hit or let him make a living in unaffiliated leagues on his own. I don’t see a better right handed batter.
(and for a joke)
He’s the latin Lou Brock!
Guys like Bradley are exactly why we can't have a pumpkin patch anymore.
by liam on Jun 13, 2009 2:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jun 12, 2009 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Awaken the Kraken
If only the Cardinals could afford to hire Dethklok to play a quick gig and release Marti from his exile deep beneath the Mexican smog-lair. Little known fact: “Amaury Cazana Marti” is an anagram for “Baseballokalypse”, but only in his forbidden native tongue, the alphabet of which is itself so maddening for mortal humans to gaze upon that it doesn’t even have a Wikipedia page.
There's no "I" in team. There's also no "I" in "B-g Mac Land".
by mattybobo on Jun 12, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
Wow. mattybobo. Nice yarn.
"Rasmus doesn't hit lefties. Instead he bashes them over the head with their own bleeding arm he just raced to the mound to rip off before the ball arrives to the plate. He then smashes that baseball with the pitchers bloody arm over the wall because he does not hit lefites he bashes them." Ted Lilly
by Red Blazer on Jun 12, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dethklok sighting!
cardinals are the things with feathers that perch within the soul.
by ilrosso on Jun 12, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
we just need a good GM
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jun 12, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
awesome
4B - beer baseball bands blog
"OOHHHHH!!!! He knocked out the I in Big Mac Land!!"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 12, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Amaury Marti
spells Miskatonic with no K but seven belqs, two fouders, and one sankofite.
You can't teach a hammer to love nails.
by the red baron on Jun 12, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And I thought
my “Clash of the TItans” reference was nerdy.
Guys like Bradley are exactly why we can't have a pumpkin patch anymore.
by liam on Jun 12, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm trying to corner a market.
There's no "I" in team. There's also no "I" in "B-g Mac Land".
by mattybobo on Jun 12, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If we trade for Lopez im going to be upset at Mo
he would have been easy to sign in the offseason. We let three 2nd basemen walk last year. One we are paying to turn into Justin Pedroia for the A’s. I really don’t want to give up a prospect for another.
It wouldn’t surprise me. We are the team that trade Barton for 11 relief innings.
by Evilfrog on Jun 12, 2009 11:17 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What would the A's want for Kennedy?
joke – not a funny one, i take it.
by njnick on Jun 12, 2009 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If we trade for a player we are already paying for
It creates a paradox. Which would destroy us all. Therefor; in order to maintain balance; the player we trade would have to be Todd.
by Evilfrog on Jun 12, 2009 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
heh
4B - beer baseball bands blog
"OOHHHHH!!!! He knocked out the I in Big Mac Land!!"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 12, 2009 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll be very surprised
if either Kennedy or Lopez end the season with a league-average OPS, even after their hot starts.
- "I went at it and didn’t slow down, so it kind of bounced off me." -Lil' Dunc
by SleepyCA on Jun 12, 2009 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
AK will most certainly
turn back into AK before very long.
by MdRedbirdFreak on Jun 12, 2009 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
also interesting
that AK’s defense has been a net negative this year, so far.
- "I went at it and didn’t slow down, so it kind of bounced off me." -Lil' Dunc
by SleepyCA on Jun 12, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what a bust
Pujols takes out "I" in BIG and "A" in MAC, previously considered to be an unyielding, consonant threat
by DESTROYER on Jun 12, 2009 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Matty H
Why no mention? I thought Dewitt had a meeting with him recently.
by mattysha on Jun 12, 2009 11:25 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Who?
MyBrute - Where tiny gladiators rule the internets
by dcfcblues on Jun 12, 2009 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holliday?
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Jun 12, 2009 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't say his name!!!
That gives him power
There's no "I" in team. There's also no "I" in "B-g Mac Land".
by mattybobo on Jun 12, 2009 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just assume
everyone means Halladay.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Jun 12, 2009 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Everytime there's Doc Halliday speculation
I get theoretically excited, and then have to talk myself down.
C’mon, Jay’s! Let’s get stupid! You know you want to deal him!
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
by Valatan on Jun 12, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
he hurt his hammy tonight
and the jays saw their season fall to pieces.
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
by gdm426 on Jun 13, 2009 2:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
beetlejuice
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jun 12, 2009 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Someone say my Name.... MattJuice
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 12, 2009 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
candyman...
Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 12, 2009 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
how is that not green?
i call dibs if he ends up on the Cards
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
by gdm426 on Jun 13, 2009 2:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
heh
4B - beer baseball bands blog
"OOHHHHH!!!! He knocked out the I in Big Mac Land!!"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 13, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i didn't mention holliday because
he’s been talked to death; there’s nothing new to say about him. i thought i’d toss out some new names for discussion.
for what it’s worth, in my opinion holliday is NOT the answer. his career OPS away from coors field is on the order of .800, and his HR/AB away from coors is about 1/30 -- in short, away from coors field he’s ryan ludwick. he’s a name, but i don’t think he makes the team that much better, if at all. and he’ll cost a ton of talent for a rental. i hate the idea.
by lboros on Jun 12, 2009 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not that Holliday is a solution
But there’s the long documented Coors field road depression there as well.
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Jun 12, 2009 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ZOMG HOW COUD U NOT MENSHUN HOLIDDAY!! HE IS THE BOMB!11!1
WE NEED HIS BAT YO PROTECT PUJOLES
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Jun 12, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You know toddius
it really isn’t.
Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 12, 2009 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll take ryan ludwick
because ryan ludwick isn’t ryan ludwick right now.
How did the pig corner the breakfast market?
by STLRegalia on Jun 12, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so when he gets back to being ryan ludwick...
it would be like… uhm…. what is it now… like making a trade?
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jun 12, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you know Yadi2, it really is
How did the pig corner the breakfast market?
by STLRegalia on Jun 12, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ixnay on the ollidayhay
4B - beer baseball bands blog
"OOHHHHH!!!! He knocked out the I in Big Mac Land!!"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 12, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wait a while
I say wait till either Beltre or Holliday are available, then pull the trigger. The Cards need an IMPACT BAT, not a band aid. The idea of trading Motte or Perez for a salad tosser like Davis blows my mind. If the Birds are going to give up serious talent like that, they need to wait for the real deal – then lay waste to the division in August and September.
by deweydell on Jun 12, 2009 11:59 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Why not Webb?
I know the asking price will be sky high, but he’s due back shortly and the D-Backs aren’t going to extend him. Rumor around Arizona is that he’s on the block. He’s only making $6.5 million this year and has a club option around $9.5 for 2010.
Could a package centered around Wallace/Jones be enough? Would it be worth it? Let’s not discount their (D-Backs) desire to trim payroll (they didn’t offer Dunn arbitration in the offseason – though he said he’d decline it – because they didn’t want to have to pay additional picks. There’s always the injury worry, but he’s been remarkably durable prior to this season.
http://overzealousfan.blogspot.com
by asufan550 on Jun 12, 2009 12:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Seeing as how he's on the DL that'd be a tricky one
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Jun 12, 2009 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The post says that he's due back shortly.
But I could only imagine what the asking price on im would be.
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
by Valatan on Jun 12, 2009 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I could see
Jake Westbrook when he’s eligible to come off the DL. I always liked him and figured he’d be a great fit with the Cards, but his peripherals aren’t awe-inspiring.
I’m sure the D-Backs would rather go the arbitration/compensation picks route with Webb. It didn’t backfire with Cruz last year, and Webb’s a far better pitcher.
Guys like Bradley are exactly why we can't have a pumpkin patch anymore.
by liam on Jun 12, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
heck
why not Haren?
4B - beer baseball bands blog
"OOHHHHH!!!! He knocked out the I in Big Mac Land!!"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 12, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's locked up long term
Webb isn’t. Plus, he’s (Webb) had a falling out of sorts with the front office over their refusal to extend his contract.
http://overzealousfan.blogspot.com
by asufan550 on Jun 12, 2009 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
great
now i know what my nightmares will be about later. tks chitown
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
by gdm426 on Jun 13, 2009 2:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
just trying to help
give you nightmares
4B - beer baseball bands blog
"OOHHHHH!!!! He knocked out the I in Big Mac Land!!"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 13, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no worries
i had a weird ass nightmare, but it wasn’t about danny. i think hunter s thompson haunted me last night. it was f’ed up
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
by gdm426 on Jun 13, 2009 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Due back in the next 2 weeks or so
http://overzealousfan.blogspot.com
by asufan550 on Jun 12, 2009 12:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Webb?
My distaste for trading lots of talent for Diamondbacks pitchers evaporates when I hear the name Webb. Boy, I don’t know if that is possible, but it would be killer deal; specially given the $9.5 for 2010.
by deweydell on Jun 12, 2009 12:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i love webb
and I want to have his fetid, deformed, sinkerballing children growing in my man-womb.
That said, I don’t think that’s a deal the Cards ever get done.
Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 12, 2009 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Expandable Prospect
We can’t afford to lose an expandable prospect. Do we even have an expandable prospects in our system? Who would qualify as expandable?
by rthorat on Jun 12, 2009 12:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I sure hope you mean expendable
Cause the Walrus doesn’t need to expand any more.
Yep, every Hall of Famer did something unique. Mike Schmidt played with his hat sideways. Roberto Clemente chewed other people's fingernails. Tris Speaker was Japanese. Lou Boudreau rode a dolphin into the batter's box. Nap Lajoie would only use John Wilkes Booth's dismembered leg as a bat. And he corked it. Johnny Mize was from the future. - FJM
by Choix003 on Jun 12, 2009 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
I'm just messing with lboros
Don’t know if you noticed, but “expandable” was the term used in the main thread. I thought it was pretty unintentionally funny.
by rthorat on Jun 12, 2009 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nope, I totally missed it up there
but somehow did notice it in the comment making fun of the original. I guess I am a little late to the party
Yep, every Hall of Famer did something unique. Mike Schmidt played with his hat sideways. Roberto Clemente chewed other people's fingernails. Tris Speaker was Japanese. Lou Boudreau rode a dolphin into the batter's box. Nap Lajoie would only use John Wilkes Booth's dismembered leg as a bat. And he corked it. Johnny Mize was from the future. - FJM
by Choix003 on Jun 12, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The guy in my profile picture was once an expandable prospect.
He is no longer a prospect though.
by rthorat on Jun 12, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dang it, I was going to make that joke
There's no "I" in team. There's also no "I" in "B-g Mac Land".
by mattybobo on Jun 12, 2009 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In honor of our boys heading off to Cleveland
Guys like Bradley are exactly why we can't have a pumpkin patch anymore.
by liam on Jun 12, 2009 1:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Those are so funny I had tears in my eyes
There's no "I" in team. There's also no "I" in "B-g Mac Land".
by mattybobo on Jun 12, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow.
everybody watch those. maybe it’s just ‘cause i’ve actually been to cleveland a lot, but those videos were hilarious.
cardinals are the things with feathers that perch within the soul.
by ilrosso on Jun 12, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A lot of it applies pretty well to St. Louis too.
“Come and look at both of our buildings!”
“We’re not Detroit!”
There's no "I" in team. There's also no "I" in "B-g Mac Land".
by mattybobo on Jun 12, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You could do it with any large, former industrial giant city
The Cleve is just fun to pick on.
"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah
by Alxfritz on Jun 12, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Except for Detroit.
Unfortunately for them, they are Detroit.
There's no "I" in team. There's also no "I" in "B-g Mac Land".
by mattybobo on Jun 12, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
we had that right after 06 WS, didn't we?
There was a lot of “we’re number one!”….
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jun 12, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I don't think it lasted
There's no "I" in team. There's also no "I" in "B-g Mac Land".
by mattybobo on Jun 12, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My favoite part
is when gdm rides his bike across the street.
"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah
by Alxfritz on Jun 12, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I like the payphone bit.
Guys like Bradley are exactly why we can't have a pumpkin patch anymore.
by liam on Jun 12, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
nice socks GDM!
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Jun 12, 2009 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who the fuck still uses a payphone?
Decrease runs scored?
Maybe.
Decrease winning? Never seen that proven.
-SFTU
by hazel on Jun 12, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
1/2 a game out of first
hopefully cleveland will roll over and play dead
4B - beer baseball bands blog
"OOHHHHH!!!! He knocked out the I in Big Mac Land!!"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 12, 2009 1:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
true
but more telling is that we have the same number of losses at as the cubs (in 4th). all the feel good about we survived our horrible 6 weeks neglects how many teams actually made up ground in the central and how far behind the other division leaders we fell. overall, this is what i fear from mo et al, we are competitive, when it means we are just as bad as our immediate competition. also, cubs get Z and ramirez back to bolster their case and we have nothing.
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
by sportsman on Jun 12, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
who knows who's going to win this clusterf@ck of a division
4B - beer baseball bands blog
"OOHHHHH!!!! He knocked out the I in Big Mac Land!!"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 12, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it's about time Jose Oquendo holds a press conference
and tells the media that he has filed papers to cancel Joel’s citizenship to Puerto Rico. And that it is based soley on the fact that he is the worst pitcher from Puerto Rico to ever play baseball. And after today’s game, Him (Jose) and Yadier will be hosting a party for team Puerto Rico’s starting pitchers.
How did the pig corner the breakfast market?
by STLRegalia on Jun 12, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes
piss off Joel, please!
4B - beer baseball bands blog
"OOHHHHH!!!! He knocked out the I in Big Mac Land!!"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 12, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's an awesome idea!
Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 12, 2009 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am more concerned about their animal army
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jun 12, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seagulls are kind to their fellow birds
born Dodger blue, now dyed Cardinals red
by totalloser on Jun 12, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I sure hope Chicago beats Wisconsin
and Minnesota beats Chicago tonight
How did the pig corner the breakfast market?
by STLRegalia on Jun 12, 2009 2:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
??
Sox play in Milwaukee, Cubs about to lose at home to Minnesota. correction. Cubs just lost to Minnesota
How did the pig corner the breakfast market?
by STLRegalia on Jun 12, 2009 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Cards v. Cleveland..
What do we set for the over/under on hits/home runs by Grady Sizemore this series? He kills teams from Missouri. (small sample size alert)
v. Royals – 93 games, 420 PA, .307/.392/.581/.973 – 23 homers, 71 RBI
v. Cardinals – 3 games, 15 PA, .538/.600/.846/1.446 – 1 homer, 3 RBI
by stlfan on Jun 12, 2009 2:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
is he healthy?
How did the pig corner the breakfast market?
by STLRegalia on Jun 12, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm going with zero. think he's still on the DL.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Jun 12, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
although
he doesn’t seem to be faring very well this season
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 12, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pick-ups apart from trades?
If Dewitt is willing to take on salary are there any semi-retired bodies that would make sense? I know Pedro and Glavine have been discussed recently. How about resurrecting talks for players like Gruds, Durham, etc… Are they not impact enough? At least we don’t give up anyone and make not long term commitments. I am not saying that they would be good 3B candidates, but I wouldn’t mind a veteran righty (or switch) bat off the bench in critical situations.
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by totalloser on Jun 12, 2009 2:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
BARRY BONDS
- "I went at it and didn’t slow down, so it kind of bounced off me." -Lil' Dunc
by SleepyCA on Jun 12, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Opening up a can of worms, again?
But yes, how could I forget to mention Bonds.
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by totalloser on Jun 12, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's a LH OF.
Unretire Sosa.
Decrease runs scored?
Maybe.
Decrease winning? Never seen that proven.
-SFTU
by hazel on Jun 12, 2009 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can you agree that Ludwick and Rasmus should be no-brainers?
Now explain their benching.
mel
Decrease runs scored?
Maybe.
Decrease winning? Never seen that proven.
-SFTU
by hazel on Jun 12, 2009 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Corey Koskie
He’d be 36 and is the only 3B free agent I see around.
Went 1-5 with a double for the Cubs in ST this year, retired in March due to post-concussion syndrome. I’d rather give Barden a few more starts and see if he can start hitting again.
Guys like Bradley are exactly why we can't have a pumpkin patch anymore.
by liam on Jun 12, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A few more names
Moises Alou, Louis Gonzalez, Jeff Kent, Paul LoDuca, the Big Hurt, Sean Casey. I am not sure if any of them would be willing to sit on the bench. We were able to entice Percy out of retirement, right? I think we were spoiled by having Mabry, Gooch and Spizio off the bench. I have to say that I need to apologize to Stav since I ragged on him so much last year. So it’s not that I don’t appreciate what the young ’ems are doing.
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by totalloser on Jun 12, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alou is almost 100
but I’d bet he can still hit lefties.
by Toddius on Jun 12, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, 42
But that’s funny.
I guess if we did want Alou, we have to make sure that Bartman does not come to the stadium.
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by totalloser on Jun 12, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
paul loduca? seriously? seriously?
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Jun 12, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If we sign Paul LoDuca
I am done with this season. Become a Texas Ranger’s fan or something.
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 12, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
SHEETS
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 12, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
PJ Walters Up
Brian Barden Down.
Got to have arms in for the AL series!
"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah
by Alxfritz on Jun 12, 2009 3:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice nowing you Barden.
I guess T. Greene’s recent showing of his ability to play 3rd allows Barden to be expandable. Because really, how many middle infielders do you need..
by Evilfrog on Jun 12, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No need for Barden and T-Greene
Sadly, there is not a reason for a 13-man bullpen featuring PJ Walters as the 13th man either. I wish they’d have called up Craig.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Jun 12, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
unless..
they traded Perez for DeRosa,,,,
by Evilfrog on Jun 12, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and that way DeRosa won't have to make travel plans...
How did the pig corner the breakfast market?
by STLRegalia on Jun 12, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bet they don't make the trade until after the series...
unless Cleveland needs an arm after burning 7 pitchers tonight in the Cards 15-1 win.
by stlfan on Jun 13, 2009 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why does Mortensen not get a chance?
Is he on the 40 man?
by ChicagoRedBird on Jun 12, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not on the 40 man
and they probably want to keep him starting.
"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah
by Alxfritz on Jun 12, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I knew it had to happen sooner or later
thanks for that win vs the DBacks, Bardo
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 12, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Barden also was Cub killer
During that swept correct?
by Evilfrog on Jun 12, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
true
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 12, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i am sad.
i know i’m a huge barden homer.
i thought he would rebound, given his ridiculous BABIP, if given enough time to play.
in the interim he was a very good defensive 3b. i know that as a slump stretches into 6 weeks plus, you can’t expect him to keep getting chances. oh well.
from rookie of the month to memphis.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Jun 12, 2009 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was my breakout guy for the year, fo sho.
(That’s “for sure” for those unhip to such jive.)
Guys like Bradley are exactly why we can't have a pumpkin patch anymore.
by liam on Jun 13, 2009 2:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ROOKIE OF THE MONTH BAY-BEE!
Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 12, 2009 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
13 man bullpen!
I’d much rather see Hawk or Walters pitch tomorrow than PK.
Guys like Bradley are exactly why we can't have a pumpkin patch anymore.
by liam on Jun 12, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what is TLR going to do
without the double switch as an option? at least Duncan will finally get a shot at his natural position this series.
How did the pig corner the breakfast market?
by STLRegalia on Jun 12, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who need the double switch
when you’ve got a (spits) DH?
Guys like Bradley are exactly why we can't have a pumpkin patch anymore.
by liam on Jun 12, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My guess?
In order:
- Try to use 5 pitchers in one inning.
- Make defensive replacements in the 4th, 5th, 6th, and 7th innings
- DH Wainwright and then pinch run for him if/when he gets on base.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on Jun 12, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yuck.
Walters didn’t look like major league material to me the first time around.
by MdRedbirdFreak on Jun 12, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
neither did...
greg maddux, or chris carpenter, or hundreds of other great pitchers. Not saying Walters is that good, but the first time around doesn’t mean shit.
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by dcfcblues on Jun 12, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he looked pretty decent to me
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 12, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He might not of been that good
But he showed enough upside to pique my interest
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 12, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
you get a rec for properly using "pique" and not "peek" or "peak."
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Jun 12, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Does he get a flag for using "of" rather than "have"?
BTW, you get a rec for placing your period inside of your quotation marks.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jun 12, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Burn.
I've got one foot on the platform, the other foot on the train
I'm going back to New Orleans, to wear that ball and chain
by jd is legend on Jun 12, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you didn't actually rec him though
I had your back and rec’d him for you though. Don’t make a habit of it!
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Jun 12, 2009 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Flim
often types phonetically.
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Jun 12, 2009 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He puts the fun
in phonetics.
Guys like Bradley are exactly why we can't have a pumpkin patch anymore.
by liam on Jun 13, 2009 2:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know,
I just couldn’t get the words “Mike” and “Parisi” out of my mind when watching PJ. Yes, this is purely subjective and yes, I hope I’m wrong.
by MdRedbirdFreak on Jun 12, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sweet
Let’s get a 13 man pitching staff when we get PLAY AN EXTRA GD HITTER SINCE WE’RE IN AN AL PARK. I HATE THE 13 MAN PITCHING STAFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by azruavatar on Jun 12, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
13 man staff probably isn't needed
but I would almost think it would be used better in an AL setting. You hardly ever PH in the AL, so all you really need are defensive substitutions or possible handedness switch
How did the pig corner the breakfast market?
by STLRegalia on Jun 12, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
not defending
jus’ sayin’
How did the pig corner the breakfast market?
by STLRegalia on Jun 12, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
breaking news: seen on the streets of st. louis this afternoon:
17 people maimed, 5 dead. robot heard saying “13 goddamn pitchers.”
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Jun 12, 2009 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
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the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Jun 12, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
None of those silhouettes has a Lancelot haircut...
that I can tell.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Jun 12, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not 100% opposed to the idea of this move
But why Walters?!
I've got one foot on the platform, the other foot on the train
I'm going back to New Orleans, to wear that ball and chain
by jd is legend on Jun 12, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Another name to throw into the trade rumor discussion
…Brad Penny. At least according to John Heyman, so take it for what it’s worth.
The Phillies, Mets and Cardinals are supposedly among the teams in on the Brad Penny trade talks. But the Phillies are aiming higher, Mets GM Omar Minaya said he feels comfortable wit his rotation (though that was two days before John Maine went to the disabled list with a shoulder issue) and the Cardinals may need to target a third baseman instead of a pitcher. In any case, the Red Sox want to make room for John Smoltz and are allowed to trade Penny after June 15.
…Some third-base possibilities for the Cards could include Miguel Tejada, Adrian Beltre, Mark DeRosa and Melvin Mora.
Targeting a third baseman instead of a pitcher…Has Heyman not watching The Colonel pitch or looked at his average fastball velocity over at FanGraphs?
I was just reading a post from the always insightful Rob Neyer on Brad Penny. Here is what he provides in the way of a breakdown on Penny’s performance this season in red so[cks].
Penny’s got a 5.32 ERA, so it might seem like an easy choice: trade Penny for whatever you can get.
Most of the damage to Penny’s ERA was done in April, though, when he was absolutely horrible in four starts, with an 8.66 ERA and more walks (11) than strikeouts (6?). In Penny’s eight starts since April, he’s got a 4.10 ERA with nine walks and 38 strikeouts in 48 innings. Those aren’t great numbers, but they’re certainly good enough for any other team in the majors.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Jun 12, 2009 3:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd be game.....
Penny is from Tulsa, OK too, so resigning him might be an option, due to location to home.
I remember when he was a short, skinny kid throwing heat as a 12 year old. Dude got big.
Say you were standing with one foot in the oven and one foot in an ice bucket. According to the percentage people, you should be perfectly comfortable." - Manager Bobby Bragan
by SoonerfanTU on Jun 12, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I heard the Penny rumor too
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 12, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if we get Melvin Mora after all this
I am gonna freakin puke
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Jun 12, 2009 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is the Randy wells era over?
Twins have put up 3….make that 4 runs in 4 innings.
How did the pig corner the breakfast market?
by STLRegalia on Jun 12, 2009 3:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
only for the people who thought the randy wells era had begun.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Jun 12, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
65% of Chicago
How did the pig corner the breakfast market?
by STLRegalia on Jun 12, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha he is from where i went to High School so he gets some points for that
which he loses for playing for the cubs
by FunkeeC on Jun 12, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
a kid from my home town (& current residence)
just got drafted by the cubs in the 7th Round out of high school. Blair Springfield. apparently he’s a lifelong cardinals fan, so his family is kind of torn
How did the pig corner the breakfast market?
by STLRegalia on Jun 12, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Decatur, IL
How did the pig corner the breakfast market?
by STLRegalia on Jun 12, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But which HS?
He’s a MacArthur grad, right? Damn those Generals…
by mtzxc on Jun 12, 2009 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I went to High School with Buehrle
And I don’t even remember him being that good at baseball
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 12, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is
what allows him to fool major league hitters as well. They don’t think he’s very good either, they just can’t seem to hit the ball when he throws it.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on Jun 12, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
my buddy at work loves the kid
He been a tough luck loser several games this year.
by Evilfrog on Jun 12, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
every game, outside of today
he’s also a former catcher
How did the pig corner the breakfast market?
by STLRegalia on Jun 12, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's a decent pitcher.
but he has put up FIP’s of over 4.00 for three consecutive seasons in AAA. i don’t know why people looked at 5 or 6 games and thought he would suddenly turn into johan santana. he was a regression waiting to happen.
again, he’s probably a serviceable #4 type pitcher. but the cubs fans just got whipped up into a frenzy over a few games – in which he pitched well.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Jun 12, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and this surprises you, because?
but the cubs fans just got whipped up into a frenzy over a few games – in which he pitched well.
How did the pig corner the breakfast market?
by STLRegalia on Jun 12, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
His dad refused to buy a Cubs shirt
until he made the big leagues, I guess hoping he’d be traded first. I like that.
"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah
by Alxfritz on Jun 12, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
He been a tough luck loser several games this year.
That sounds like a Cub’s player if I ever heard one.
They been a tough luck loser several decades this millennium.
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 12, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rasmus is benched AGAIN tonight
even with the fucking DH.
I really wish our pitching coach was named Dave Rasmus instead of Dave Duncan
Ryan 6
Ankiel 8
Pujols 3
Ludwick 9
Stavinoha 7
Duncan DH
Molina 2
T. Greene 5
Thurston 4
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by dcfcblues on Jun 12, 2009 3:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
holy fucking shit.
"I usually don’t read other peoples sigs." -Cuttah
by Alxfritz on Jun 12, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
this really is all that needed to be said
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Jun 12, 2009 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A) I agree.
But…
B) Didn’t the trainer check on Colby yesterday? What was that about?
"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Jun 12, 2009 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
or we had a different manager
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 12, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
at least ludwick is batting cleanup
Larussa’s lineups are never perfect
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 12, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
that really is surprising. Benching our best defensive OFer and one of our hottest hitters in favor of Duncan doesn’t make any sense to me.
by Toddius on Jun 12, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
my internal optimist
says that TLR doesn’t want Colby to risk his hitting streak against a lefty
How did the pig corner the breakfast market?
by STLRegalia on Jun 12, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was willing to risk it yesterday by PH'ing him, giving him one AB to extend it
I've got one foot on the platform, the other foot on the train
I'm going back to New Orleans, to wear that ball and chain
by jd is legend on Jun 12, 2009 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But it was against a RHP
duh
How did the pig corner the breakfast market?
by STLRegalia on Jun 12, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I want to say unbelievable
But that’s not the right word. How about Unjustified! Unwarranted! Crazy! I don’t get how Dunc and Ankiel keep starting over Rasmus who lately has b