Game 30 Open Thread
by tom s. on May 8, 2009 7:30 PM EDT
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PrintCueto v. Pineiro
Can Pineiro keep up his sinking triumphs?
Rasmus starts in CF and bats second. Hooray!
Let's continue a long cards history of beating up on the Reds.
Carpenter had a good long toss session today.
Khalil Greene will show us whether his arm still works.
Maybe Shane Robinson will make a BABIP driven showing today.
Am I at 75 words yet?
Umm. Pujols has 11 home runs. Eleven! That's a lot.
Go Cards!!
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Colby gives us his best rick ankiel impersonation leading off with a ten-pitch strikeout.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
stupid wet ground
not that Thurston would have necessarily gotten it but …
My brain has shut down completely so my butt is doing all the thinking.
willy taveras showing off the power he is known for.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
What the hell happened to the Reds lineup
where are Votto, Encarnacion and Phillips??
maybe jock traded them all for jermaine dye?
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
must be eating too much fresh fruit.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
Al's
got a night off. I’m not a huge Rick Horton fan, but he’s better than Al.
Classic underachiever.
you know, it really is, AL. I mean. Rick.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
reading my mind
you know, you sit there and you go, Al will be back tomorrow, and thats like making a mid-season trade without having to give anyone up.
-Only problem is, you come out on the short end.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
can yadi pick willy off? that cheap "hit" shouldn't count for anything.
right the imbalance in the universe, yado.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
Come on Pinata
do not walk Jerry Hairston Jr, please
i'd rather have the walk
"All baseball fans can be divided into two groups: those who come to batting practice and the others. Only those in the first category have much chance of amounting to anything."--Thomas Boswell
Good start to this one....
Let that be a lesson about location…STAY AROUND THE PLATE. Wild waste pitches do not help your cause…
So its going to be one of those kind of games...
Where the other team is just chipping and blooping shots…ridiculous…
yeah ...
whenever Pineiro pitches i just expect to all unravel at any point, even when he’s doing well
worst lineup in baseball
is still composed of players who have proven to be somewhat effective at some point at the major league level.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
the Nats are gratefull you forgot about them
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
Are you joking?
The Nats offense is 10000x better than what the Reds have out there tonight.
nats have a decent lineup. i can think of other teams i'd rather face offensively.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by runs/game
Cincy is actually about 12th in the NL…..so they’re below average but I wouldn’t say they’re worst in the majors
their CURRENT lineup
when they have Encarnacion, Phillips and Votto in there, they are a good hitting team.
But the lineup they have out there tonight, is worse than any lineup in baseball. They have one legitimate hitter, Jay Bruce
little off on the location
but only one hard hit ball.
Thurston made a bad decision trying to play taveras’ swinging bunt.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
seriously, enough wth the effing bloop hits
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
hard hit ball count
Cards: 2
Reds: 1
Score
Cards: 0
Reds: 2
My brain has shut down completely so my butt is doing all the thinking.
cueto
looked like he tweaked something a little on the third strike to rasmus. Only had to throw one more pitch that inning, but we’ll see how he’s feeling this inning.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
according to dan
a-rod is making his return to the mets tonight.
i mean, i’m willing to forgive him for stuff like that, but it doesn’t make it not funny.
mets=slang for methamphetamine?
or maybe he said “madge” as in Madonna and you misunderstood.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
awesome
try and say something positive again
now dunc hits the 2-run HR and ties it. Right, dunc?
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
Shannon:
referring to cueto facing Ludwick:
“He had him in the hole and he let him get off.”
That’s what she said??
"All baseball fans can be divided into two groups: those who come to batting practice and the others. Only those in the first category have much chance of amounting to anything."--Thomas Boswell
Wow...
Garbage that the reds scratch out 2 runs off one good hit and we hit 3 liners to the wall and nothing…
Aren't the Reds the ones who are known for their comebacks?
defy, cards, defy. hey logic --- you suck.
i like that we are hitting the ball solid
it will quickly drop
yup
these are two good things
the runs will come
wow
that was hometown call right there
My brain has shut down completely so my butt is doing all the thinking.
strike 1 to Molina?
Gameday agreed with the call….a very nice pitch….caught a very tiny bit of the corner
game day is full of crap
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
where did it say ball 3 was?
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
just a smidge outside
"All baseball fans can be divided into two groups: those who come to batting practice and the others. Only those in the first category have much chance of amounting to anything."--Thomas Boswell
it was in the lh batters box & at most the bottom of his knees
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
it's gonna ba loooong night if he keeps getting that called a K
that was almost in the lh batters box
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
Yadi is swinging at pitches at his eyes
but atleast he’s making contact
Another hit to the warning track
if this was a mid summer game at the Great american small park, we’d have 3 HR’s already
so
every ball in the air in cincy goes to the track?
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
molasses air?
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
mother of ass
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
OMG, did anyone just see that handshake between Robinson and Rasmus?
AND OMG ANOTHER BALL HIT TO THE WALL….WTF IS GOING ON?
jesus christ
is it even possible to get it over J. Nix’s head?
My brain has shut down completely so my butt is doing all the thinking.
a front just came through
the park faces south, the wind should be blowing out right?
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
it's probably swirling
the storm was moving west to east, so you’d think it would be blowing across the playing field towards right (actually more like btw right and first base)…my guess is it’s all over the place….
And
if Yadi and Colby have anything to say about it, he’ll be out of the game soon.
How’s the Reds’ bullpen?
by peach concrete on May 8, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions
right through the Khalil hole
My brain has shut down completely so my butt is doing all the thinking.
Pineiro not looking good
/anti-hyperbole
"All baseball fans can be divided into two groups: those who come to batting practice and the others. Only those in the first category have much chance of amounting to anything."--Thomas Boswell
loose definition
of the words “line drive” used by dan there
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
get the sinker down Pinata
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
LaDunc
High on Blaine Boyer. . .
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
is he already warming up??
"All baseball fans can be divided into two groups: those who come to batting practice and the others. Only those in the first category have much chance of amounting to anything."--Thomas Boswell
Really Rick?
What about Cuetos performance thus far, has screamed No Hitter? The multiple blasts that just miss HR’s?
Horton is just as bad as Al
well that happened
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
I'm probably wrong
but I thought a ball off the plate was foul?
you are correct
that you are wrong
plate is in fair territory, as are all the bases.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
I figured I was wrong
no idea why I thought it was foul
I am
"All baseball fans can be divided into two groups: those who come to batting practice and the others. Only those in the first category have much chance of amounting to anything."--Thomas Boswell
here
Home plate is irrelevant. Home plate is in fair territory, but other than that, it is just the same as the ground.
That
tells me nothing about the shape being that way because it’s in fair territory.
Classic underachiever.
i'll go with
the back end has a point because it’s the first base line and third base line meeting
i don’t know why the rest of the plate is shaped the way it is… i suppose that part would be completely arbitrary
i think the reasoning behind the shape is pretty obvious
and that wasn’t the point anyway.
why would it be shaped any way other than to define the fair line?
What he said was this:
“the plate’s in fair territory. that’s why it has the shape that it does.”
Classic underachiever.
right
spants, haven’t you ever seen a batter bat ball off of the plate, bouncing really high on the infield?
That would mean that it is fair
"All baseball fans can be divided into two groups: those who come to batting practice and the others. Only those in the first category have much chance of amounting to anything."--Thomas Boswell
think about it
the diagonal parts are the 1st and 3rd base lines, and the square part makes it easier to see whether a pitch is a strike or not (compared to how it would be if it were a square like the other bases, with the corner pointing towards the pitcher)
Right.
It defines the strike zone and the foul lines, but it’s behind them, technically in foul territory. And, it used to be a square in the earlier days of baseball, which is why pitches are called on the “corners.”
Classic underachiever.
Yes.
It’s an archaic term that has continued though the plate has changed shape.
Classic underachiever.
The 5-sided plate
was introduced in 1900. Prior to that, it was a square.
I found it in lots of places using Google, but you can just look here.
Classic underachiever.
that link answers clearly the "why" question
“The disadvantage of the square shape was that it was difficult for both the umpires and the pitchers to pinpont the strike zone.”
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
That was what I was saying.
The original post said the shape of the plate was that way because it was in fair territory. That’s what I disagreed with.
Classic underachiever.
your phrasing made it unclear
and the intellectual process you have pass through to believe that he meant the front of the plate and not the back require some impressive mental gymnastics
no u lol
he said, “the plate is in fair territory, that’s why it has the shape it does.” you said, " not sure that’s true."
how could we know for sure you were arguing the logic of the shape and not whether or not the plate is fair or foul?
ah cool
but that link explicitly say that the shape makes calling balls and strikes easier proving that the original shape theory stated is correct
The original
post stated that the plate was in fair territory and THAT was why it was shaped the way it is. I disagreed with that reasoning as the plate changed shape to make the calling of balls and strikes easier for the umps. The logic behind the original post was wrong.
Classic underachiever.
no
this is becoming trite. but the original post said that plate is in fair territory and used the apex shape of the rear part of the plate to exemplify that it is in fair territory. saying that from of the plate is square because it is in fair territory makes no0 sense and there is no reason to believe he meant that
How does
“the plate’s in fair territory, that’s why it has the shape that it does” make any sense whatsoever?
The square home plate had the corner in the same place as the apex of the 5-sided home plate. The current shape is NOT due to fair-foul but is due to ball-strike. If you don’t understand that, then whatever. I’m done.
Classic underachiever.
Obvious
to someone with limited knowledge of the history of baseball, I suppose.
Classic underachiever.
if being insulting
is what it takes to cover up the poor logic you followed, then fine, but there’s no way that you can come to the conclusion he meant, “the front of the plate is square because it is in fair territory.” it makes absolutely no sense, so my logically mind subconsciously dismissed it as a possibility
Look.
He said the shape of the plate. I took that to mean the whole shape of the plate. You did not. That is all.
Classic underachiever.
not to beat this into the ground
but have a gander at this. Note that the diagonal parts of the plate coincide with the foul lines. The apex of the plate is where the two lines meet.
"but it’s behind them, technically in foul territory"
what’d you mean by that line?
The whole and entire plate is in fair territory. The only reason that the foul lines don’t come all the way back to the plate is because of the batters boxes.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
it's also why you can't run into a ball that's been hit off the plate...
cause you would be out
should be an ER
if the pitcher makes the error
"All baseball fans can be divided into two groups: those who come to batting practice and the others. Only those in the first category have much chance of amounting to anything."--Thomas Boswell
reds still only have 1.5 hard hit balls
compared to our eleventy billion. Why the hell does Horton think Cueto is Greg Maddux circa 1994?
My brain has shut down completely so my butt is doing all the thinking.
Yadi should go out
and just tell Pineiro his favorite thing about getting to play for PR in the WBC
"All baseball fans can be divided into two groups: those who come to batting practice and the others. Only those in the first category have much chance of amounting to anything."--Thomas Boswell
poop
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
maybe we should bring in dunc
so we can have 5 infielders
Can I declare Pineiro sucking yet?
Or is he still unlucky?
bad luck, bad defense, elevated pitch count
call it what you want, he is what he is.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Absolutely Terrible Pineiro...
Pitches are up, Curve is hanging, Sinker is falling over the plate, Fastball predictable…
GET OFF THE FIELD!
it would be pretty funny if
Cueto pitched a no-hitter through 4 then it gets PPD
"All baseball fans can be divided into two groups: those who come to batting practice and the others. Only those in the first category have much chance of amounting to anything."--Thomas Boswell
anyone warming up?
"All baseball fans can be divided into two groups: those who come to batting practice and the others. Only those in the first category have much chance of amounting to anything."--Thomas Boswell
If we don't score some runs soon,
May be one of those “take one for the team” nights for Joel…. Save the pen when you’re not facing Cueto.
I've convinced myself
That Ryan would have had two of those ground balls through the inflield and the score would be 0-2 right now.
as would greene
just not the greene thats in the game
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
No hitter is gone, sorry Rick Horton
I know how badly he seemed to want it to happen
finally
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
Colby's got him right where he wants him
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
I thought he had all of that
piece of garbage maple bats.
20 frakking pitches and not a single damn hit
he’s received 40% of the guy’s pitches
I'm not very impressed with Cueto
for a guy with a 1.40 or whatever ERA, his stuff looks pretty ordinary.
geesh Kbot
get it together bra
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
that was awful
think malibu took one too many human cannonballs to the head
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
dooooooode
that was so bad, it was good
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
So...
did anybody here about Manny testing positive?
"All baseball fans can be divided into two groups: those who come to batting practice and the others. Only those in the first category have much chance of amounting to anything."--Thomas Boswell
Manny tested positive?
I suppose you’re also going to tell me that ARod got caught also??
1-2-3 inning
"All baseball fans can be divided into two groups: those who come to batting practice and the others. Only those in the first category have much chance of amounting to anything."--Thomas Boswell
thats the pinero we know and hope not to resign at the end of the year
My brain has shut down completely so my butt is doing all the thinking.
W T F
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
yeah
but he traveled after getting nailed in the kidney
i wouldn’t be surprised if he doesn’t do much today
Yea
I’d say I hope we drills the Pirates superstar next time we play them…but it’s the Pirates, and they don’t have any stars.
what do you mean
the have nate mcclouth, the gold glove, all star centerfielder
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
McClouth is not a star
he’s an average player on a bad team
and our 3-4-5 goes down meekly
can we please get a thunderstorm? because this one is looking bad
you're doing better than i
i can barely see to type i’m crying so hard
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
Leo Mazzone ain't got nothin on me
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
i do know how he feels
i’m in contact with my one that got away. it’s beyond awful.
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
yeah, it really is
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
foolishly i'm working the phones trying to put something together
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
not for me it's not
you know how bad my record watching the Cards is? i wish it was that good when it comes to women. i mean, you wouldn’t believe how bad my 31 years on this rock has been.
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
oh, thanks
i don’t know if i’m too stupid to not give up, or just smart enough to keep going. many days, i can’t really tell.
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
that made me laugh
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
damnit all to hell
this game sucks
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
You know what this game reminds me of?
Last Saturday’s game against the Nats. Except I had to endure that game live.
by peach concrete on May 8, 2009 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions
he had no feeling in his fingers for much of last season
and hit 37 hrs
not really what i was asking, though
thanks buccos
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
well that sucked ass
Cueto looks hittable but the Cardinals look….pitchable.
(By that I mean anxious)
Pitchability,
a refreshing combination of aggressiveability and lowbabipability
Space.
It's a problem we face.
So we never go anywhere.
We just stay in one place.
by hazel on May 8, 2009 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I'd laugh,
but for the fact that it is so painfully true.
Yup
To be honest, he mostly looked unlucky, more than anything else. (And some bad defense/ bad defensive positioning. Why does it seem that Greene is never where a SS usually is?)
based on how both pitchers have pitched
I’d say this game ought to be more like 3-2 Reds at most. You know over the course of a long season we’re going to get more wacky games like this, and some of them will be in our favor….The Gods of Baseball work in Mysterious Ways….
not a whole lot, unfortunately
How depressing is it being you? Is it closer to being a lifelong cubs fan or being born without lips? - Janitor
by themanthemyth on May 8, 2009 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions
he left a couple up
had what? two hard hits? the rest were bloops & seeing eye’d variety. and the error.
he shouldn’t have given up so many runs, and the Cards should have a lot more runs. baseball can be a fickle.mistress.
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
thats the problem with pitching to contact
leaving a couple pitches up here and there will kill you
How depressing is it being you? Is it closer to being a lifelong cubs fan or being born without lips? - Janitor
by themanthemyth on May 8, 2009 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions
yes, keep him in Dick, we're finally getting some good wood on the balls
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
and thursty swings at the first pitch
where the hell is Barden?
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
flying out to right
damn you Santa. you’ve given me coal once again.
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
FSMW's
gun had Perez’s first pitch at 89 mph. Anyone have the Gameday info on that pitch?
Classic underachiever.
FSNNatti had it at 93
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
W T F?
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
call time out boys
geesh
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
skippy was covering 1st, and green was covering 3rd
thursty was standing in the middle of the infield, so maybe YP’s. i don’t know
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
What's with our pitchers tipping pitches lately
First Waino, now Perez.
Come on Dunc, fix this shiz.
YP's control is waaaaaaaaaay off
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
Oh well
lets hope the pitching and offense decide to show up in the next 2 games
Skippy looked like he was going to field the bat
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
Now pitching...
the LOOGY we could have had
"All baseball fans can be divided into two groups: those who come to batting practice and the others. Only those in the first category have much chance of amounting to anything."--Thomas Boswell
size of uniform?
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
as if i hadn't seen it enough
FNSNatti is showing Rick running into the wall
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
Pujols still needs to reach base
to keep his streak going
"All baseball fans can be divided into two groups: those who come to batting practice and the others. Only those in the first category have much chance of amounting to anything."--Thomas Boswell
i wish you folks back in St Louis could see this full moon
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
jinx, you owe me a Dr Pepper
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
Tyler Greene!!!!
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
let's go back to back
"All baseball fans can be divided into two groups: those who come to batting practice and the others. Only those in the first category have much chance of amounting to anything."--Thomas Boswell
and the streak ends
"All baseball fans can be divided into two groups: those who come to batting practice and the others. Only those in the first category have much chance of amounting to anything."--Thomas Boswell
StealWick!!!!
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
now they start scoring runs
took you all long enough
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
Getting interesting
"All baseball fans can be divided into two groups: those who come to batting practice and the others. Only those in the first category have much chance of amounting to anything."--Thomas Boswell
he has twins named stripper & fire
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
it's back for me
"All baseball fans can be divided into two groups: those who come to batting practice and the others. Only those in the first category have much chance of amounting to anything."--Thomas Boswell
Yeah, mine kicked back on fairly quickly too
It’s frustrating that KTRS’ feed seems to be a lot less reliable than the opposing team’s feed, although in this case they were both out.
by BTown Birds fan on May 8, 2009 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Have you noticed that when KTRS's audio goes out
you can go to the opposing team’s audio & it’s usually working? Highly irritating.
Yeah, I've had that experience too
although tonight both feeds were out for a little bit. Back on now.
by BTown Birds fan on May 8, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Frak!! It's out again, both feeds!!
What have I done to deserve this, mlb.com?!?
by BTown Birds fan on May 8, 2009 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I've gotten so frustrated with Gameday Audio
that I’m about the fork out the $ for MLB TV. Does it flake out like Gameday Audio?
Yadier Molina
foul ball RBI machine
fixed it
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
that dog will hunt!
Yadda with an RBI. whoo hoo!
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
Alrighty!!
"All baseball fans can be divided into two groups: those who come to batting practice and the others. Only those in the first category have much chance of amounting to anything."--Thomas Boswell
no this is their TESS
Danny Graves ring a bell??
"All baseball fans can be divided into two groups: those who come to batting practice and the others. Only those in the first category have much chance of amounting to anything."--Thomas Boswell
crap
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
So who do we have hitting in the 9th?
Thursty , Wainwright, Robinson?
ATM it's
Thursty
Barden
Robinson
T Greene
Pujols (I’m being optimistic)
at least one of those infielders won’t bat for themselves
we have no one on the bench but Larue
so yes they will
Thompson is batting in Barden's spot
think he’s going to bat? It’ll be either LaRue or Wainwright….my money’s on A.D.A.M.
Greene homered last inning, so yes
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
but he hit it after robinson batted
why not have greene bat in schu’s spot…and leave colby in
much rather have colby bat and left in center…and then bring in robinson as a defensive replacement for dunc in the bottom of the inning
TLR was
playing the R/L split against Rhodes
"All baseball fans can be divided into two groups: those who come to batting practice and the others. Only those in the first category have much chance of amounting to anything."--Thomas Boswell
Tony hates rookies.
He put Robison out there because he couldn’t have a rookie in CF in the late innings.
come on PK
get that sinker down boy! down!
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
and he's not pitching very well
hayo
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Thompson and Hanigan's
Gameday pics are like total opposites. It’s kinda creepy actually
"All baseball fans can be divided into two groups: those who come to batting practice and the others. Only those in the first category have much chance of amounting to anything."--Thomas Boswell
link?
"All baseball fans can be divided into two groups: those who come to batting practice and the others. Only those in the first category have much chance of amounting to anything."--Thomas Boswell
it's so sinky
that GD is calling it a curveball
"All baseball fans can be divided into two groups: those who come to batting practice and the others. Only those in the first category have much chance of amounting to anything."--Thomas Boswell
no runs for PK
i’ll take that every day
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
love that gameday location chart on the last batter
every single inch of low-and-away real estate is covered by a baseball.
that's the only way the kid stays with the big boys
your not watching this?
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
I'm watching
but the chart just brought home the point. It looks less like nibbling in hindsight when he doesn’t miss his spot in an at-bat.
he did seem like he was hitting his spots
dunno what it looked like on TV, whether Molina was having to frame some of those, but he didn’t look like he was nibbling on GD
he looks like the PK of old
only no juice on his balls
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
Alright.
I want to see this get tied up.
And that’s what she said.
Classic underachiever.
by spants on May 8, 2009 10:08 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
you are the best
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
by gdm426 on May 8, 2009 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
out pitch to Dickerson
was labeled an 82 mph change by GD….had a little extra PFX on it….that might actually have been a curveball, it’s hard to say
All Right
come on you Redbirds!
"All baseball fans can be divided into two groups: those who come to batting practice and the others. Only those in the first category have much chance of amounting to anything."--Thomas Boswell
Porn stache
on deck
"All baseball fans can be divided into two groups: those who come to batting practice and the others. Only those in the first category have much chance of amounting to anything."--Thomas Boswell
former team revenge
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
I love when Thurston gets walked
and he throws the bat and sprints to first.
He knows how to get on TLR’s good side
I like LaRue here
He’s really hot right now
"All baseball fans can be divided into two groups: those who come to batting practice and the others. Only those in the first category have much chance of amounting to anything."--Thomas Boswell
No way
The stache is already at first
by cloistermaximus on May 8, 2009 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
/scowls at you
"All baseball fans can be divided into two groups: those who come to batting practice and the others. Only those in the first category have much chance of amounting to anything."--Thomas Boswell
W T F
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
That is moronic
"All baseball fans can be divided into two groups: those who come to batting practice and the others. Only those in the first category have much chance of amounting to anything."--Thomas Boswell
Dan and Rick are morons
he wasn’t running on his own
LaRue doesn't swing at those crap pitches
if Thurston doesn’t get caught stealing.
Captain Overmanagement strikes again
seriously, what's it gonna take for TLR to call him out?
that’s twice this week his base running has cost the team. if Boog had done that he’d have pulled him outta the game like he did last year.
stupid stupid move on thursty’s part.
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
TLR SENT HIM
I will put money on it. There is no way he did that on his own
watching the replay it was a straight steal
i think he did that on his own guys. i could be wrong, but i think he did
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
I haven't seen
the replay, but I agree. Thursty has shown poor judgment on the base paths before.
Classic underachiever.
did A-Ram
Just… dislocate his shoulder?
I mean, we dislike the Brew Crew but that seems extreme……
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
yes
The wonderment in my tone was mostly “I wouldn’t even imagine doing that, good job Cubbies.”
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
el douchey just hit a bomb to rh
brew crew up 3-2
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
Off of Heilman
Who was, for some reason, pitching in the 8th with only a 1 run lead. Sweet Lou must have not wanted to win that game too much.
by cloistermaximus on May 8, 2009 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think that was that bad of a call
had to avoid the double play. I don’t think it was a great call, but that’s one of those TLR gambles that had some logic to it that didn’t pay off….they ran on Hanigan earlier in the game and got away with it
It
was shitty. Use Waino and bunt him over if you want a man in scoring position.
Classic underachiever.
I disagree with
nota bene but scoring position wasn’t the point. We were down by two so one runner in scoring position didn’t matter. The goal in sending the runner there was to stay out of the DP
"All baseball fans can be divided into two groups: those who come to batting practice and the others. Only those in the first category have much chance of amounting to anything."--Thomas Boswell
If you're worried about the double play
then use Waino to bunt him over.
There’s no getting around. that was completely retarded as are 9 of 10 hit and runs!
as bad of an idea as that steal was
bunting would have been about 500% worse of an idea. The guy on first was meaningless and trading an out to get him to second base would just be insane.
OTOH, this may have been a case where they were expecting defensive indifference and didn’t get it. And if so, good on the reds, because i HATE defensive indifference.
- "I went at it and didn’t slow down, so it kind of bounced off me." -Lil' Dunc
But
that’s ALSO accomplished with a sacrifice. Instead, it was throw-him-out, strike-him-out.
Classic underachiever.
Yeah i know that
but I was just pointing out that “scoring position” wasn’t the objective
"All baseball fans can be divided into two groups: those who come to batting practice and the others. Only those in the first category have much chance of amounting to anything."--Thomas Boswell
so then we are still down by 1
and we lose. Down by two runs, I don’t think you should go running around and giving up outs by sac bunting. Those are things that you do down by one run or in a tie game.
*See Pujols stealing second, then Ludwick singling him in
"All baseball fans can be divided into two groups: those who come to batting practice and the others. Only those in the first category have much chance of amounting to anything."--Thomas Boswell
How do we lose?
We’d have one out with a guy on second. Look, if the guy at the dish could handle a bat, then that’s one thing. But it was Jason LaRue. Dude is sucky.
Classic underachiever.
yeah he's sucked with the bat so far this year
.412 AVG 1.121 OPS
I realize it’s a small sample, but did you watch the game yesterday? I wouldn’t call that sucky.
He can handle the bat.
"All baseball fans can be divided into two groups: those who come to batting practice and the others. Only those in the first category have much chance of amounting to anything."--Thomas Boswell
poop
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
No reason to hit and run
I’m gonna keep harping on this. You have STRIKEOUT pitcher against in hitter who isn’t exactly known for CONTACT with less than ideal speed, despite his size, on the bases.
I HATE running into outs. It’s even worse late in a close game. So stupid
hit and run to avoid double play
i have no problem with that…maybe overmanagement…but straight steal was a bad idea
Ok so you bring in a pinch hitter w/ 0 outs
that you’re then worried about hitting into a double play?
bring in waino to bunt him over then and save the real hitter for later.
It’s beyond dumb no matter how you look at it
his hand was forced
i agree, i’d much rather have seen waino bunt than that…but once he brought stache in the game..a hit and run is a legit call
well then he forced his own hand...
but i still hate the hit and run unless the guy has the speed to straight up steal the base, which Thurston has demonstrated to be a problem. but i get ya. not trying to be argumentative. we just made a lot of silly mistakes that hurt us tonight. that was the last one
thursty has the speed, just not the jump
i completley agree with you…bad decisions, but the bad decision was bring larue in, not the hit and run, inho
though apparently it was a straight steal, and in that case, i have no clue what the hell anyone was thinking
if it was a straight steal
that’s even worse lol. yeah it’s the jump that’s the problem. i agree the worse mistake was LaRue if tony had it in his that he need to hit-and-run. but one mistake led to another which is frustrating
well, that pitch wasn't hittable
and the CIN announcers said thurston got a great jump, though they never showed it. it WAS for sure a great throw, a perfect throw, and anything short of a perfect throw and he would have been safe.
Still a terrible move, but it was really, really close to working.
- "I went at it and didn’t slow down, so it kind of bounced off me." -Lil' Dunc
Justin Verlander sure seems to have found his shit again
After a complete game two-hit shutout tonight, he’s 3-0 with an ERA of 0.39 and 31 K in 23 innings over his last three starts.
by BTown Birds fan on May 8, 2009 10:21 PM EDT reply actions
i'm hungry, i'm going to go have it my way
yes, that did almost sound dirty fella.
someone watch the post game please & see what Tony said about Thursty running. k, tks.
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
Aramis Ramirez...
Looks like he’ll be DL-bound with a dislocated shoulder
"Greene over to Schumaker, on to first! Double Play!!"
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on May 8, 2009 10:23 PM EDT reply actions
tardy
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
video footage
"Greene over to Schumaker, on to first! Double Play!!"
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on May 8, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Can't he knock that shit back in by banging against a wall?
That’s what Riggs would do.
by cloistermaximus on May 8, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090508&content_id=4629538&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb
"Greene over to Schumaker, on to first! Double Play!!"
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on May 8, 2009 10:24 PM EDT reply actions
ow
I wouldn’t wish that on a Cub, tbh.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
why are all the wrong cubs getting hurt?
except for z. i actually like both derek lee and aramiz ramirez. and a ram has a pretty tough injury. that could turn into a season
he's a cardinal killer
for sure. but he’s a good player and he’s classy. contrary to soriano or zambrano, i wouldn’t mind seeing him play for the cards.
if someone like soriano played for the cards, i would not pull for him
Cubs lose
3-2
"All baseball fans can be divided into two groups: those who come to batting practice and the others. Only those in the first category have much chance of amounting to anything."--Thomas Boswell
hoffman
looked unbelievably good. every fastball was at the same imaginary point low and on the corner, and then he’d get to a changeup count and they couldn’t do anything with it.
he didn't throw many changeups
I think Hoffpauir got one. It looks like guys are sitting changeup and he keeps feeding fastballs.
last third
of the Cards’ game was ok… but I live two hrs from Cincy and if I had driven over there in a drizzle…. the first six innings would have had me upset.
On the plus side, Yadi really is turning into a smart hitter.
i'd elaborate more
but that’s about all tony said haha. then i headed over the NBA game so if they get from Tony someone will have to let us know. He was testy so i doubt he says anything more
they just reran it on FSNMW
and he was more than testy, he was a flat out dick. said it was a bad call on his part & the catcher made a perfect throw. then he mouthed off to Strauss about asking an easy question and saying he wouldn’t ask about something else that happened in the game, which i couldn’t make out. and Strauss said, “well, actually yes i would”. then Tony goes, "is that all you got? next question!
so we know it wasn’t Thursty’s fault, so i take back what i said about Thursty being stupid. he was just following orders. and those orders were stupid.
It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan
“Son, we play in a game that needs runs and those runs need to be generated by men with talent. Who’s gonna do it? You? You, gdm426? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for Thurston and curse the Cardinals; you have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know: that Thurston’s out, while tragic, probably wins games and that my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, wins games. You don’t want the truth because deep down in places you don’t talk about at parties you want me in that dugout, you need me in that dugout. We use words like honor, code, loyalty. We use then as the backbone of a life trying to win something. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the wins I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide them. I would rather you just said “thank you,” and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest that you pick up a bat and stand a post. Either way, I don’t give a damn what you think you are entitled to."
hecanthithecanthithecanthithecanthit
by Alxfritz on May 9, 2009 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I drove two hours to a friends house to watch this in HD
only to find out that they inexplicably didn’t get the game.
What the hell happened?
by Hardcore Legend on May 9, 2009 12:25 AM EDT reply actions
isn't pittsburgh like 2 hours from cincinnati?
methinks that might have been easier. And in H’er D.
- "I went at it and didn’t slow down, so it kind of bounced off me." -Lil' Dunc
Tigers vs. Indians
Great catch by Granderson. The play-by-play man for the Indians makes it even better.
Fyi, the game appears to be on MLB network tonight
if you get that channel.
emergency substitute entry just up
not sure what chuck’s up to, but he’s got a game thread due up later. In other news, I wake up too late on Saturdays.
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