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Game 30 Open Thread

Cueto v. Pineiro

 

Can Pineiro keep up his sinking triumphs?

Rasmus starts in CF and bats second. Hooray!

Let's continue a long cards history of beating up on the Reds.

Carpenter had a good long toss session today.

Khalil Greene will show us whether his arm still works.

Maybe Shane Robinson will make a BABIP driven showing today.

Am I at 75 words yet?

Umm. Pujols has 11 home runs. Eleven! That's a lot.

 

Go Cards!!

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Yay!

Classic underachiever.

by spants on May 8, 2009 7:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Colby gives us his best rick ankiel impersonation leading off with a ten-pitch strikeout.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on May 8, 2009 7:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

thursty

let it roll!

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on May 8, 2009 7:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

stupid wet ground

not that Thurston would have necessarily gotten it but …

My brain has shut down completely so my butt is doing all the thinking.

by jacksonian on May 8, 2009 7:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

willy taveras showing off the power he is known for.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on May 8, 2009 7:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What the hell happened to the Reds lineup

where are Votto, Encarnacion and Phillips??

by Cuttah on May 8, 2009 7:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

maybe jock traded them all for jermaine dye?

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on May 8, 2009 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Eliminated.

Classic underachiever.

by spants on May 8, 2009 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

oink

"All baseball fans can be divided into two groups: those who come to batting practice and the others. Only those in the first category have much chance of amounting to anything."--Thomas Boswell

by albrtfn on May 8, 2009 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

must be eating too much fresh fruit.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on May 8, 2009 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Al's

got a night off. I’m not a huge Rick Horton fan, but he’s better than Al.

Classic underachiever.

by spants on May 8, 2009 7:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

you know, it really is, AL. I mean. Rick.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on May 8, 2009 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

reading my mind

you know, you sit there and you go, Al will be back tomorrow, and thats like making a mid-season trade without having to give anyone up.

-Only problem is, you come out on the short end.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on May 8, 2009 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

can yadi pick willy off? that cheap "hit" shouldn't count for anything.

right the imbalance in the universe, yado.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on May 8, 2009 7:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Come on Pinata

do not walk Jerry Hairston Jr, please

by Cuttah on May 8, 2009 7:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i'd rather have the walk

"All baseball fans can be divided into two groups: those who come to batting practice and the others. Only those in the first category have much chance of amounting to anything."--Thomas Boswell

by albrtfn on May 8, 2009 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Me too.

Classic underachiever.

by spants on May 8, 2009 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow

Jerry Hairston Jr

You are AWESOME Pineiro

by Cuttah on May 8, 2009 7:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Good start to this one....

Let that be a lesson about location…STAY AROUND THE PLATE. Wild waste pitches do not help your cause…

by The_teague on May 8, 2009 7:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah ...

whenever Pineiro pitches i just expect to all unravel at any point, even when he’s doing well

by kalmavet on May 8, 2009 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hairston

Was the only bad Pineiro. Couldn’t put him away…everything else has been weakly hit

by Glowsticks on May 8, 2009 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Eh.

Shit happens. It doesn’t mean he won’t be effective from here on out.

Classic underachiever.

by spants on May 8, 2009 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

worst lineup in baseball

is still composed of players who have proven to be somewhat effective at some point at the major league level.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on May 8, 2009 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the Nats are gratefull you forgot about them

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

by gdm426 on May 8, 2009 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Are you joking?

The Nats offense is 10000x better than what the Reds have out there tonight.

by Cuttah on May 8, 2009 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

nats have a decent lineup. i can think of other teams i'd rather face offensively.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on May 8, 2009 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

by runs/game

Cincy is actually about 12th in the NL…..so they’re below average but I wouldn’t say they’re worst in the majors

by nota bene on May 8, 2009 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

their CURRENT lineup

when they have Encarnacion, Phillips and Votto in there, they are a good hitting team.

But the lineup they have out there tonight, is worse than any lineup in baseball. They have one legitimate hitter, Jay Bruce

by Cuttah on May 8, 2009 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

fair enough

are those guys hurt or are they going to pinch hit?

by nota bene on May 8, 2009 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

an infield hit and a bloop.

by Evilfrog on May 8, 2009 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

little off on the location

but only one hard hit ball.
Thurston made a bad decision trying to play taveras’ swinging bunt.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on May 8, 2009 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

seriously, enough wth the effing bloop hits

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

by gdm426 on May 8, 2009 7:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I wish

Dan would never again say the words “Kyle Lohse.”

Classic underachiever.

by spants on May 8, 2009 7:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

hard hit ball count

Cards: 2
Reds: 1

Score
Cards: 0
Reds: 2

My brain has shut down completely so my butt is doing all the thinking.

by jacksonian on May 8, 2009 7:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

haha true

but spotting Cueto a 2-run lead early seems like a bad idea. hope i’m wrong tho!

by kalmavet on May 8, 2009 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

cueto

looked like he tweaked something a little on the third strike to rasmus. Only had to throw one more pitch that inning, but we’ll see how he’s feeling this inning.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on May 8, 2009 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah something doesn't look right

and i like how we’re working the count

by kalmavet on May 8, 2009 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

according to dan

a-rod is making his return to the mets tonight.

i mean, i’m willing to forgive him for stuff like that, but it doesn’t make it not funny.

by Phizzle on May 8, 2009 7:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

mets=slang for methamphetamine?

or maybe he said “madge” as in Madonna and you misunderstood.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on May 8, 2009 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

awesome

try and say something positive again

by BirdsonFire on May 8, 2009 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

now dunc hits the 2-run HR and ties it. Right, dunc?

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on May 8, 2009 7:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

So close.

Classic underachiever.

by spants on May 8, 2009 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shannon:

referring to cueto facing Ludwick:

“He had him in the hole and he let him get off.”

That’s what she said??

"All baseball fans can be divided into two groups: those who come to batting practice and the others. Only those in the first category have much chance of amounting to anything."--Thomas Boswell

by albrtfn on May 8, 2009 7:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Actually,

it would be “That’s what HE said.”

Classic underachiever.

by spants on May 8, 2009 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow...

Garbage that the reds scratch out 2 runs off one good hit and we hit 3 liners to the wall and nothing…

by The_teague on May 8, 2009 7:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

wow

that was hometown call right there

My brain has shut down completely so my butt is doing all the thinking.

by jacksonian on May 8, 2009 7:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

strike 1 to Molina?

Gameday agreed with the call….a very nice pitch….caught a very tiny bit of the corner

by nota bene on May 8, 2009 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

game day is full of crap

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

by gdm426 on May 8, 2009 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

where did it say ball 3 was?

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

by gdm426 on May 8, 2009 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

just a smidge outside

"All baseball fans can be divided into two groups: those who come to batting practice and the others. Only those in the first category have much chance of amounting to anything."--Thomas Boswell

by albrtfn on May 8, 2009 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

it was in the lh batters box & at most the bottom of his knees

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

by gdm426 on May 8, 2009 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

it's gonna ba loooong night if he keeps getting that called a K

that was almost in the lh batters box

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

by gdm426 on May 8, 2009 7:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yadi is swinging at pitches at his eyes

but atleast he’s making contact

by Cuttah on May 8, 2009 7:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He

hit a HR off a pitch like that the other day.

Classic underachiever.

by spants on May 8, 2009 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

nothing is more fun to watch

than Cardinals forcing the pitcher to throw 8+ pitches per AB.

by nota bene on May 8, 2009 7:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Another hit to the warning track

if this was a mid summer game at the Great american small park, we’d have 3 HR’s already

by Cuttah on May 8, 2009 7:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

so

every ball in the air in cincy goes to the track?

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on May 8, 2009 7:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

molasses air?

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 8, 2009 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

mother of ass

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

by gdm426 on May 8, 2009 7:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

jesus h. christ

can we catch a break?

by Phizzle on May 8, 2009 7:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

jesus christ

is it even possible to get it over J. Nix’s head?

My brain has shut down completely so my butt is doing all the thinking.

by jacksonian on May 8, 2009 7:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes

But not hys brother Laynce

by Glowsticks on May 8, 2009 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

GD has the Cards hitting like 5 HR already...

… but all are outs. were they really all that deep?

by kindred on May 8, 2009 7:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah.

Classic underachiever.

by spants on May 8, 2009 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ATG

wind is coming in from center @ 14 mph

by nota bene on May 8, 2009 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

a front just came through

the park faces south, the wind should be blowing out right?

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

by gdm426 on May 8, 2009 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

it's probably swirling

the storm was moving west to east, so you’d think it would be blowing across the playing field towards right (actually more like btw right and first base)…my guess is it’s all over the place….

by nota bene on May 8, 2009 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

strike that

wrong direction…..should be blowing to left, not right

by nota bene on May 8, 2009 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

thanks

i’m two hours north and we have no wind

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

by gdm426 on May 8, 2009 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes

3 were to the wall, 1 was to the track

by Cuttah on May 8, 2009 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

relax everybody

if they keep hitting Cueto well some of those will drop in or get over the wall

by nota bene on May 8, 2009 7:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Im worried about moral...not power...

team keeps doing that, they might give this game away…

by The_teague on May 8, 2009 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And

if Yadi and Colby have anything to say about it, he’ll be out of the game soon.

How’s the Reds’ bullpen?

by peach concrete on May 8, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pineiro not looking good

/anti-hyperbole

"All baseball fans can be divided into two groups: those who come to batting practice and the others. Only those in the first category have much chance of amounting to anything."--Thomas Boswell

by albrtfn on May 8, 2009 7:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

loose definition

of the words “line drive” used by dan there

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on May 8, 2009 7:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

get the sinker down Pinata

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

by gdm426 on May 8, 2009 7:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

LaDunc

High on Blaine Boyer. . .

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on May 8, 2009 7:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

is he already warming up??

"All baseball fans can be divided into two groups: those who come to batting practice and the others. Only those in the first category have much chance of amounting to anything."--Thomas Boswell

by albrtfn on May 8, 2009 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pinata

K

My brain has shut down completely so my butt is doing all the thinking.

by jacksonian on May 8, 2009 7:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Horton is freaking about Cueto

Don’t know why, we’re smoking the ball against him thus far

by Glowsticks on May 8, 2009 7:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

the offense will score some runs

I’m kinda worried about Pineiro actually

by nota bene on May 8, 2009 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Really Rick?

What about Cuetos performance thus far, has screamed No Hitter? The multiple blasts that just miss HR’s?

Horton is just as bad as Al

by Cuttah on May 8, 2009 7:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

well that happened

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

by gdm426 on May 8, 2009 7:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm probably wrong

but I thought a ball off the plate was foul?

by Cuttah on May 8, 2009 8:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

you are correct

that you are wrong

plate is in fair territory, as are all the bases.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on May 8, 2009 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I figured I was wrong

no idea why I thought it was foul

by Cuttah on May 8, 2009 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

nope

home is in fair territory

by nota bene on May 8, 2009 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the plate's in fair territory

that’s why it has the shape that it does.

by Phizzle on May 8, 2009 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not

sure that’s true…

Classic underachiever.

by spants on May 8, 2009 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am

"All baseball fans can be divided into two groups: those who come to batting practice and the others. Only those in the first category have much chance of amounting to anything."--Thomas Boswell

by albrtfn on May 8, 2009 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Proof?

Classic underachiever.

by spants on May 8, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

here
Home plate is irrelevant. Home plate is in fair territory, but other than that, it is just the same as the ground.

by prophetjohn on May 8, 2009 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That

tells me nothing about the shape being that way because it’s in fair territory.

Classic underachiever.

by spants on May 8, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i'll go with

the back end has a point because it’s the first base line and third base line meeting

i don’t know why the rest of the plate is shaped the way it is… i suppose that part would be completely arbitrary

by BirdsonFire on May 8, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the rest of it

is parallel to pitches coming in from the mound

by nota bene on May 8, 2009 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i think the reasoning behind the shape is pretty obvious

and that wasn’t the point anyway.

why would it be shaped any way other than to define the fair line?

by prophetjohn on May 8, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What he said was this:

“the plate’s in fair territory. that’s why it has the shape that it does.”

Classic underachiever.

by spants on May 8, 2009 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

right

spants, haven’t you ever seen a batter bat ball off of the plate, bouncing really high on the infield?
That would mean that it is fair

"All baseball fans can be divided into two groups: those who come to batting practice and the others. Only those in the first category have much chance of amounting to anything."--Thomas Boswell

by albrtfn on May 8, 2009 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

think about it

the diagonal parts are the 1st and 3rd base lines, and the square part makes it easier to see whether a pitch is a strike or not (compared to how it would be if it were a square like the other bases, with the corner pointing towards the pitcher)

by nota bene on May 8, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right.

It defines the strike zone and the foul lines, but it’s behind them, technically in foul territory. And, it used to be a square in the earlier days of baseball, which is why pitches are called on the “corners.”

Classic underachiever.

by spants on May 8, 2009 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol
which is why pitches are called on the "corners."

no

by prophetjohn on May 8, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes.

It’s an archaic term that has continued though the plate has changed shape.

Classic underachiever.

by spants on May 8, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The 5-sided plate

was introduced in 1900. Prior to that, it was a square.

I found it in lots of places using Google, but you can just look here.

Classic underachiever.

by spants on May 8, 2009 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Here is some

more proof.

Classic underachiever.

by spants on May 8, 2009 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that link answers clearly the "why" question

“The disadvantage of the square shape was that it was difficult for both the umpires and the pitchers to pinpont the strike zone.”

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on May 8, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That was what I was saying.

The original post said the shape of the plate was that way because it was in fair territory. That’s what I disagreed with.

Classic underachiever.

by spants on May 8, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

your phrasing made it unclear

and the intellectual process you have pass through to believe that he meant the front of the plate and not the back require some impressive mental gymnastics

by prophetjohn on May 8, 2009 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My phrasing where?

You’ve been doing the mental gymnastics.

Classic underachiever.

by spants on May 8, 2009 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

no u lol

he said, “the plate is in fair territory, that’s why it has the shape it does.” you said, " not sure that’s true."

how could we know for sure you were arguing the logic of the shape and not whether or not the plate is fair or foul?

by prophetjohn on May 8, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It became clear

as we went on and you know it.

Classic underachiever.

by spants on May 8, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ah cool

but that link explicitly say that the shape makes calling balls and strikes easier proving that the original shape theory stated is correct

by prophetjohn on May 8, 2009 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The original

post stated that the plate was in fair territory and THAT was why it was shaped the way it is. I disagreed with that reasoning as the plate changed shape to make the calling of balls and strikes easier for the umps. The logic behind the original post was wrong.

Classic underachiever.

by spants on May 8, 2009 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

no

this is becoming trite. but the original post said that plate is in fair territory and used the apex shape of the rear part of the plate to exemplify that it is in fair territory. saying that from of the plate is square because it is in fair territory makes no0 sense and there is no reason to believe he meant that

by prophetjohn on May 8, 2009 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How does

“the plate’s in fair territory, that’s why it has the shape that it does” make any sense whatsoever?

The square home plate had the corner in the same place as the apex of the 5-sided home plate. The current shape is NOT due to fair-foul but is due to ball-strike. If you don’t understand that, then whatever. I’m done.

Classic underachiever.

by spants on May 8, 2009 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he was obviously

only referring to the rear of the plate

by prophetjohn on May 8, 2009 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Obvious

to someone with limited knowledge of the history of baseball, I suppose.

Classic underachiever.

by spants on May 8, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

if being insulting

is what it takes to cover up the poor logic you followed, then fine, but there’s no way that you can come to the conclusion he meant, “the front of the plate is square because it is in fair territory.” it makes absolutely no sense, so my logically mind subconsciously dismissed it as a possibility

by prophetjohn on May 8, 2009 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ok guys

time to walk away

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on May 8, 2009 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

probably

time to watch the cards suck it up

by prophetjohn on May 8, 2009 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Look.

He said the shape of the plate. I took that to mean the whole shape of the plate. You did not. That is all.

Classic underachiever.

by spants on May 8, 2009 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i just wanted to see

how far to the right we could scrunch up the posts

by prophetjohn on May 8, 2009 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah...

Done that before. It was way cooler in VEB’s old format.

Classic underachiever.

by spants on May 8, 2009 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

where?

"All baseball fans can be divided into two groups: those who come to batting practice and the others. Only those in the first category have much chance of amounting to anything."--Thomas Boswell

by albrtfn on May 8, 2009 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought we just established

that home is in fair territory….

by nota bene on May 8, 2009 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It is.

But where it sits is not. Does that make sense?

Classic underachiever.

by spants on May 8, 2009 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

so

under the plate is foul territory?

by prophetjohn on May 8, 2009 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

no

"All baseball fans can be divided into two groups: those who come to batting practice and the others. Only those in the first category have much chance of amounting to anything."--Thomas Boswell

by albrtfn on May 8, 2009 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

not really....

LOL….need to find a rule book

by nota bene on May 8, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

not to beat this into the ground

but have a gander at this. Note that the diagonal parts of the plate coincide with the foul lines. The apex of the plate is where the two lines meet.

by nota bene on May 8, 2009 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My bad.

Had my mental image confused.

Classic underachiever.

by spants on May 8, 2009 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the internets

are wonderful things =)

by nota bene on May 8, 2009 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

"but it’s behind them, technically in foul territory"

what’d you mean by that line?

The whole and entire plate is in fair territory. The only reason that the foul lines don’t come all the way back to the plate is because of the batters boxes.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on May 8, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

well damn

E1…never good

by nota bene on May 8, 2009 8:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

should be an ER

if the pitcher makes the error

"All baseball fans can be divided into two groups: those who come to batting practice and the others. Only those in the first category have much chance of amounting to anything."--Thomas Boswell

by albrtfn on May 8, 2009 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

reds still only have 1.5 hard hit balls

compared to our eleventy billion. Why the hell does Horton think Cueto is Greg Maddux circa 1994?

My brain has shut down completely so my butt is doing all the thinking.

by jacksonian on May 8, 2009 8:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Oquendo says you suck Pineiro

Please get mad and be lights out again. Please?

by cloistermaximus on May 8, 2009 8:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yadi should go out

and just tell Pineiro his favorite thing about getting to play for PR in the WBC

"All baseball fans can be divided into two groups: those who come to batting practice and the others. Only those in the first category have much chance of amounting to anything."--Thomas Boswell

by albrtfn on May 8, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

poop

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

by gdm426 on May 8, 2009 8:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

bad luck, bad defense, elevated pitch count

call it what you want, he is what he is.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on May 8, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hanger

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on May 8, 2009 8:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

okay.

now we’re not getting bad luck.

by Phizzle on May 8, 2009 8:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

what the hell

Pineiro just ain’t got it today

by nota bene on May 8, 2009 8:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Absolutely Terrible Pineiro...

Pitches are up, Curve is hanging, Sinker is falling over the plate, Fastball predictable…

GET OFF THE FIELD!

by The_teague on May 8, 2009 8:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

it would be pretty funny if

Cueto pitched a no-hitter through 4 then it gets PPD

"All baseball fans can be divided into two groups: those who come to batting practice and the others. Only those in the first category have much chance of amounting to anything."--Thomas Boswell

by albrtfn on May 8, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

anyone warming up?

"All baseball fans can be divided into two groups: those who come to batting practice and the others. Only those in the first category have much chance of amounting to anything."--Thomas Boswell

by albrtfn on May 8, 2009 8:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

probably not

i would think tony would send joel back out there for one more try.

by Phizzle on May 8, 2009 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If we don't score some runs soon,

May be one of those “take one for the team” nights for Joel…. Save the pen when you’re not facing Cueto.

by fuegophil on May 8, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've convinced myself

That Ryan would have had two of those ground balls through the inflield and the score would be 0-2 right now.

by Evilfrog on May 8, 2009 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

as would greene

just not the greene thats in the game

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on May 8, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

time to get serious

My brain has shut down completely so my butt is doing all the thinking.

by jacksonian on May 8, 2009 8:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

No hitter is gone, sorry Rick Horton

I know how badly he seemed to want it to happen

by Cuttah on May 8, 2009 8:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Maybe

he was trying to jinx Cueto.

Classic underachiever.

by spants on May 8, 2009 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

there goes your no-no Ricky

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on May 8, 2009 8:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

finally

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

by gdm426 on May 8, 2009 8:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Colby's got him right where he wants him

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

by gdm426 on May 8, 2009 8:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

he's seen

20 of Cueto’s 51 pitches

"All baseball fans can be divided into two groups: those who come to batting practice and the others. Only those in the first category have much chance of amounting to anything."--Thomas Boswell

by albrtfn on May 8, 2009 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought he had all of that

piece of garbage maple bats.

by Cuttah on May 8, 2009 8:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

20 frakking pitches and not a single damn hit

he’s received 40% of the guy’s pitches

by BirdsonFire on May 8, 2009 8:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm not very impressed with Cueto

for a guy with a 1.40 or whatever ERA, his stuff looks pretty ordinary.

by Cuttah on May 8, 2009 8:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

geesh Kbot

get it together bra

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

by gdm426 on May 8, 2009 8:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

that was awful

think malibu took one too many human cannonballs to the head

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on May 8, 2009 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

dooooooode

that was so bad, it was good

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

by gdm426 on May 8, 2009 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So...

did anybody here about Manny testing positive?

"All baseball fans can be divided into two groups: those who come to batting practice and the others. Only those in the first category have much chance of amounting to anything."--Thomas Boswell

by albrtfn on May 8, 2009 8:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Manny tested positive?

I suppose you’re also going to tell me that ARod got caught also??

by Cuttah on May 8, 2009 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Really??

"All baseball fans can be divided into two groups: those who come to batting practice and the others. Only those in the first category have much chance of amounting to anything."--Thomas Boswell

by albrtfn on May 8, 2009 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

1-2-3 inning

"All baseball fans can be divided into two groups: those who come to batting practice and the others. Only those in the first category have much chance of amounting to anything."--Thomas Boswell

by albrtfn on May 8, 2009 8:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

thats the pinero we know and hope not to resign at the end of the year

My brain has shut down completely so my butt is doing all the thinking.

by jacksonian on May 8, 2009 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

W T F

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

by gdm426 on May 8, 2009 8:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Jeeez APu

you’re better than that

by Cuttah on May 8, 2009 8:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah

but he traveled after getting nailed in the kidney

i wouldn’t be surprised if he doesn’t do much today

by BirdsonFire on May 8, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yea

I’d say I hope we drills the Pirates superstar next time we play them…but it’s the Pirates, and they don’t have any stars.

by Cuttah on May 8, 2009 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

what do you mean

the have nate mcclouth, the gold glove, all star centerfielder

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on May 8, 2009 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They have Jason Bay.

Oh wait.

Classic underachiever.

by spants on May 8, 2009 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

McClouth is not a star

he’s an average player on a bad team

by Cuttah on May 8, 2009 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Twas

a joke.

Classic underachiever.

by spants on May 8, 2009 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

loaded the bases for Ludwick’s HBP

by nota bene on May 8, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

interesting

Braun got hit in the top of his back.

by ol Pete on May 8, 2009 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and our 3-4-5 goes down meekly

can we please get a thunderstorm? because this one is looking bad

by Cuttah on May 8, 2009 8:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice hit,

Khalil.

Classic underachiever.

by spants on May 8, 2009 8:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Fuck that

Cueto, you are a lucky SOB

by Cuttah on May 8, 2009 8:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Haren

in a Cards uni. Ouch.

Classic underachiever.

by spants on May 8, 2009 8:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i cringe every time i see it

or think about it for that matter

by VolsnCards5 on May 8, 2009 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

(gently weeping)

Classic underachiever.

by spants on May 8, 2009 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you're doing better than i

i can barely see to type i’m crying so hard

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

by gdm426 on May 8, 2009 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Are you rocking though?

I know I am.

Classic underachiever.

by spants on May 8, 2009 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Leo Mazzone ain't got nothin on me

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

by gdm426 on May 8, 2009 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Imagine how

Dave Duncan feels? Danny Haren is The One Who Got Away.

Classic underachiever.

by spants on May 8, 2009 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i do know how he feels

i’m in contact with my one that got away. it’s beyond awful.

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

by gdm426 on May 8, 2009 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That

sounds like torture. :(

Classic underachiever.

by spants on May 8, 2009 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, it really is

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

by gdm426 on May 8, 2009 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

are you hinting at the fact

that you’re going to make a midseason trade for this person

by Glowsticks on May 8, 2009 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

foolishly i'm working the phones trying to put something together

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

by gdm426 on May 8, 2009 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

All's fair.

Classic underachiever.

by spants on May 8, 2009 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

not for me it's not

you know how bad my record watching the Cards is? i wish it was that good when it comes to women. i mean, you wouldn’t believe how bad my 31 years on this rock has been.

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

by gdm426 on May 8, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What I meant

was that you shouldn’t give up.

Classic underachiever.

by spants on May 8, 2009 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh, thanks

i don’t know if i’m too stupid to not give up, or just smart enough to keep going. many days, i can’t really tell.

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

by gdm426 on May 8, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's the same thing.

Classic underachiever.

by spants on May 8, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that made me laugh

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

by gdm426 on May 8, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

damnit all to hell

this game sucks

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

by gdm426 on May 8, 2009 8:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You know what this game reminds me of?

Last Saturday’s game against the Nats. Except I had to endure that game live.

by peach concrete on May 8, 2009 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

albert looks awful

is he good friends with manny?

by prophetjohn on May 8, 2009 9:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He's good friends

with his bruised kidney.

Classic underachiever.

by spants on May 8, 2009 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he had no feeling in his fingers for much of last season

and hit 37 hrs

not really what i was asking, though

by prophetjohn on May 8, 2009 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow.

I was making a joke and you just want to argue with me. Fair enough.

Classic underachiever.

by spants on May 8, 2009 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

thanks buccos

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 8, 2009 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That is

some interesting heritage.

Classic underachiever.

by spants on May 8, 2009 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

meant to type for kryptonite

cueto is spanish for kryptonite

by VolsnCards5 on May 8, 2009 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

well that sucked ass

Cueto looks hittable but the Cardinals look….pitchable.

(By that I mean anxious)

by nota bene on May 8, 2009 9:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Pitchability,

a refreshing combination of aggressiveability and lowbabipability

Space.

It's a problem we face.

So we never go anywhere.

We just stay in one place.

by hazel on May 8, 2009 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

I'd laugh,

but for the fact that it is so painfully true.

by cardsgirl95 on May 8, 2009 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Awesome.

Classic underachiever.

by spants on May 8, 2009 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

FWIW

Pineiro now has set down 9 Reds in a row

by nota bene on May 8, 2009 9:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yup

To be honest, he mostly looked unlucky, more than anything else. (And some bad defense/ bad defensive positioning. Why does it seem that Greene is never where a SS usually is?)

by DiscoJer on May 8, 2009 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs