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Game 47 Open Thread- 27th May, 2009

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St. Louis Cardinals at Milwaukee Brewers, May 27, 2009 1:05 PM EDT


 Welley_medium               Parra_medium

      The Colonel      vs.     The Other Manny

 

In such a hurry,

No time for a good haiku

Let's hope this will do

 

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Lineup via stltoday.com

Ryan SS
Duncan LF
Pujols 1B
Stavinoha RF
Barden 3B
Larue C
Thurston 2B
Wellemeyer P
Schumaker CF

First start for Schumaker in the outfield right?

....my quick smells like french toast...

by mstreeter06 on May 27, 2009 12:57 PM EDT reply actions  

First OF start for Schu

And it’s different to see him batting last and not leadoff.

Welcome to Baseball Heaven.

by zoomzoomj88 on May 27, 2009 12:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah

That’s a really different looking lineup haha!

....my quick smells like french toast...

by mstreeter06 on May 27, 2009 12:59 PM EDT reply actions  

I kinda like duncan batting second

and schu batting 9th, he might have some chances to knock in some runs there too. albeit, ryan is not a better leadoff hitter probably.

4B - beer baseball bands blog
"OOHHHHH!!!! He knocked out the I in Big Mac Land!!"

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 27, 2009 1:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Right shoulder

bothering him. I have no freaking clue why they brought him back so soon. Dude needs more time.

"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on May 27, 2009 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Things just wouldn't be right with the world

If Rick didn’t spend some time each season off the DL when he should be on it.

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on May 27, 2009 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Still sore, lefty on the mound...

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on May 27, 2009 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tvants link...

Here’s the Tvants link for those you have it downloaded and can’t watch the game. Cardinals vs Brewers

....my quick smells like french toast...

by mstreeter06 on May 27, 2009 1:08 PM EDT reply actions  

oops link fail

tvants://list.tvants.com/tvants/?k=3685912168d3b3e2eac87aba55148f22

....my quick smells like french toast...

by mstreeter06 on May 27, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

gah i fail haha

....my quick smells like french toast...

by mstreeter06 on May 27, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ryan

is actually taking a decent at-bat.

"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on May 27, 2009 1:10 PM EDT reply actions  

And OMG

he walked.

"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on May 27, 2009 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep...

aggressive going into third, too!

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on May 27, 2009 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Orzo

Is like rice sized pasta

Yep, every Hall of Famer did something unique. Mike Schmidt played with his hat sideways. Roberto Clemente chewed other people's fingernails. Tris Speaker was Japanese. Lou Boudreau rode a dolphin into the batter's box. Nap Lajoie would only use John Wilkes Booth's dismembered leg as a bat. And he corked it. Johnny Mize was from the future. - FJM

by Choix003 on May 27, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

orzo is this beautiful greek/mediterranean thing

but the Greek Deli here serves it with everything, and it is glorious.

by Expatcardfan on May 27, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Parra is really shtting now

Mang Says...
"There is no "I" in team, or in B g Mac Land, either."

by all4tookie on May 27, 2009 1:12 PM EDT reply actions  

i like this start

dunc batting second right now is a good thing… i really miss glaus and luddy so that can be permanent

by BirdsonFire on May 27, 2009 1:13 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't believe...

…what I just saw! Holy Moly, Albert K’s?

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on May 27, 2009 1:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Stav

Now we rely on a Stav Infection

Yep, every Hall of Famer did something unique. Mike Schmidt played with his hat sideways. Roberto Clemente chewed other people's fingernails. Tris Speaker was Japanese. Lou Boudreau rode a dolphin into the batter's box. Nap Lajoie would only use John Wilkes Booth's dismembered leg as a bat. And he corked it. Johnny Mize was from the future. - FJM

by Choix003 on May 27, 2009 1:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Everybody used to go into 2B like that…

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on May 27, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

And the Brew Crew

shows craptastic defense to allow the Cards a run…

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on May 27, 2009 1:15 PM EDT reply actions  

wooo!

I don’t even have the game on yet heh

4B - beer baseball bands blog
"OOHHHHH!!!! He knocked out the I in Big Mac Land!!"

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 27, 2009 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

man

I hate afternoon games. They destroy my productivity at work.

by Cedar Plank on May 27, 2009 1:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Agreed

Plus I don’t get to watch them on TV

Yep, every Hall of Famer did something unique. Mike Schmidt played with his hat sideways. Roberto Clemente chewed other people's fingernails. Tris Speaker was Japanese. Lou Boudreau rode a dolphin into the batter's box. Nap Lajoie would only use John Wilkes Booth's dismembered leg as a bat. And he corked it. Johnny Mize was from the future. - FJM

by Choix003 on May 27, 2009 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

that kinda sucked

nice to get the lead… but damn

by BirdsonFire on May 27, 2009 1:17 PM EDT reply actions  

I hear ya

I’m pretty busy, but I haven’t even eaten lunch yet

4B - beer baseball bands blog
"OOHHHHH!!!! He knocked out the I in Big Mac Land!!"

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 27, 2009 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

what?

you don’t like starting 4 middle infielders and the fat clone of one?

by BirdsonFire on May 27, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

What other options do you have?

Glaus is out. Luddy out. Ankiel hurt. K. Greene not hitting. Freese hurt.

"Stats are for losers," Muschamp said after last week's victory. "I like winning games."

by SoonerfanTU on May 27, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Greene to the DL?

Looks like they are thinking it

"People call me El Hombre," Pujols said. "But only Stan is the Man."

by StLHugo on May 27, 2009 1:18 PM EDT reply actions  

I was thinking that they might send Khalil to the DL

during last night’s game

Welcome to Baseball Heaven.

by zoomzoomj88 on May 27, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

check the link...
"He had a tough night," La Russa said afterward. "He’s very tough on himself."

"People call me El Hombre," Pujols said. "But only Stan is the Man."

by StLHugo on May 27, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope so.

Call up T. Greene.

"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on May 27, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

My guess it'll be Ludwick in, K. Greene out...

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on May 27, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

ditto here

I was disappointed to see T. Greene called down. If anything, I thought Thurston or K. Greene should have been sent down.

Welcome to Baseball Heaven.

by zoomzoomj88 on May 27, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

You can't

just send Thurston and K. Greene to the minors.

"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on May 27, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

need to send barden over thursty

and i dont think a minors stint is gonna help k greenes head

by Rasmus Fan on May 27, 2009 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Doesn't matter

because K. Greene cannot be sent to the minors unless he clears waivers or is doing a rehab assignment. Thurston has to clear waivers, too.

"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on May 27, 2009 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

But actually seeing a psychiatrist...

could allow K. Greene to find out just what is wrong; mental issues are largely caused by chemical imbalances in the brain. Medication might be part of the answer.

A DL stint for psychiatric treatment would be worth the try, IMO…

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on May 27, 2009 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Worked very well

for willis

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring" -Rogers Hornsby

by stlwcards on May 27, 2009 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

It probably needs to happen.....

For both he and the Cardinals.

"Stats are for losers," Muschamp said after last week's victory. "I like winning games."

by SoonerfanTU on May 27, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

How many pitches that inning?

Sorry MLB.com not working right

Mang Says...
"There is no "I" in team, or in B g Mac Land, either."

by all4tookie on May 27, 2009 1:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Thanks

Mang Says...
"There is no "I" in team, or in B g Mac Land, either."

by all4tookie on May 27, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't.....

But I’d let him start at 2B if Skip moves, or be an infielder off the bench.

The kid has talent, and has a glove.

"Stats are for losers," Muschamp said after last week's victory. "I like winning games."

by SoonerfanTU on May 27, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

thought that in april then early may hit

and his bat went away…he is a decent utility guy, pinch hitter, etc. but not a long term starter

"People call me El Hombre," Pujols said. "But only Stan is the Man."

by StLHugo on May 27, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe the bench.

"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on May 27, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Joe

Brewer Killer?

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring" -Rogers Hornsby

by stlwcards on May 27, 2009 1:30 PM EDT reply actions  

what just happened?

gd’s a little slow.

Welcome to Baseball Heaven.

by zoomzoomj88 on May 27, 2009 1:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Welle groundout to Short

Joe advances to 3rd

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring" -Rogers Hornsby

by stlwcards on May 27, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bad baserunning move on a

groundout deep in the hole between 3rd and 2nd?

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring" -Rogers Hornsby

by stlwcards on May 27, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

ball was hit in front of him pretty sharply

borderline on if he should have taken off, i think

by Expatcardfan on May 27, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll agree with you borderline

but i wouldnt call it a bad baserunning decision

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring" -Rogers Hornsby

by stlwcards on May 27, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

nifty

gameday showed those 6 pitches in 2 clumps of pyramids

by BirdsonFire on May 27, 2009 1:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Just tuned in...

We’ve got one run. That’s enough for the win, right?

by JWO on May 27, 2009 1:37 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm not greedy

I’ll settle for a 3-1 victory. Miller or Reyes can soak up the lone Brewer run, lets say around the 8th inning. Sound good?

by JWO on May 27, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was

until Mrs. Goaler told me she had a Wal-Mart list… I’ll do that after the baseball game!

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on May 27, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anyone else's

MLB.tv just crap out?

"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on May 27, 2009 1:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Sorry. I couldn't resist.

"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on May 27, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Given

this list of manager wins:

1. Connie Mack 3,731
2. John McGraw 2,763
3. Tony LaRussa 2,297

he’s got a pretty good case…

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on May 27, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great line..

Where were the first two pitches to Gamel? Gameday had them right down broadway

Mang Says...
"There is no "I" in team, or in B g Mac Land, either."

by all4tookie on May 27, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

my gameday did not

had first upper left corner (edge)… second upper inside corner (edge)

by BirdsonFire on May 27, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

In case none of you read it

a big steroids bust came down that implicates the Washington Capitols and the Washington Nationals.

Here

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on May 27, 2009 1:45 PM EDT reply actions  

if the nats

are using roids, they’re getting ripped off.

by Cedar Plank on May 27, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's like when Cody McKay got busted for roids

It was like “If he’s on PEDs, then how much does he REALLY suck?!”

I've got one foot on the platform, the other foot on the train
I'm going back to New Orleans, to wear that ball and chain

by jd is legend on May 27, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

leadoff man on 3 straight innings?

has the world ended?

"People call me El Hombre," Pujols said. "But only Stan is the Man."

by StLHugo on May 27, 2009 1:47 PM EDT reply actions  

No hits...but two RBIs...

Got lucky on the first RBI. Dunc about killed Counsell earlier.

by The_teague on May 27, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

got the run home

can’t complain too much about that for now

by Expatcardfan on May 27, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

will pujols see anything to hit?

sorry if his AB has come and gone, MLB gamechannel is slow

by Cedar Plank on May 27, 2009 1:49 PM EDT reply actions  

IBB already

"People call me El Hombre," Pujols said. "But only Stan is the Man."

by StLHugo on May 27, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

What channels can I get the game on guys?

Cant find any..

Whatever it takes?

by JoMilla on May 27, 2009 1:50 PM EDT reply actions  

FSN MW

at least according to the stlcardinals schedule page

"People call me El Hombre," Pujols said. "But only Stan is the Man."

by StLHugo on May 27, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

When I saw first pitch swinging...

I thought DP for sure

Mang Says...
"There is no "I" in team, or in B g Mac Land, either."

by all4tookie on May 27, 2009 1:50 PM EDT reply actions  

I was thinking the same thing...

Even though he hasn’t flopped, he’s not major league ready…if ever…

by The_teague on May 27, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

How is it a win-win for the Cardinals?

How can the Cardinals win both sides of the equation? Shouldn’t it be a win-win for the Cardinals and Khalil? Or a win-win for the Cardinals and the Padres?

Atleast it wasn’t a win-win-win.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on May 27, 2009 1:53 PM EDT reply actions  

glad to see we can at least score a couple of runs

I have a feeling we’ll need a few more today though, go Colonel!

4B - beer baseball bands blog
"OOHHHHH!!!! He knocked out the I in Big Mac Land!!"

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 27, 2009 1:55 PM EDT reply actions  

I dunno

but it reminds me of the transformer called Metroplex

4B - beer baseball bands blog
"OOHHHHH!!!! He knocked out the I in Big Mac Land!!"

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 27, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wish

I’m watching dots move around the bases on friggin’ yahoo gamechannel. Listening to my co-workers discuss how badass Jake Fox is going to be in the majors.

by Cedar Plank on May 27, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Uhhhhh....

not in the Good Ol’ USA, my friend…

(And I played soccer as a youth… right back/right wing…)

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on May 27, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Aw. c'mon!

that’s volleyball!

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on May 27, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was known

to hip-check strikers… (evil grin)

After becoming a hockey goalie, “body contact” was never an issue for me!

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on May 27, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

never been sent off

plenty of yellows… but never been sent off or suspended

by BirdsonFire on May 27, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Need to lay off the Red Bull, man! ;-)

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on May 27, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

We woulda had fun

facing each other on the pitch (if the ref was lookin’ the other way, that is!)

Foul? What foul?

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on May 27, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha i think i patented that saying

i have such bad ankles from soccer and since i’m not exactly upstanding on the field and i’m the top scorer i catch a lot of cheap shots

by Rasmus Fan on May 27, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

argh

4B - beer baseball bands blog
"OOHHHHH!!!! He knocked out the I in Big Mac Land!!"

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 27, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

can't really follow soccer

I think my problem with Soccer/Football or whatever it is called is that it never really stops, it is just a continous stream of action, which at times leaves newcomers just lost as to what is going on, fun action sometimes but If you don’t understand it there is little chance to grasp what is happening.

"People call me El Hombre," Pujols said. "But only Stan is the Man."

by StLHugo on May 27, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

i find soccer really relaxing to watch, for some reason

no commercials, lots of green on the field, i can just zone out and watch for a few hours pretty easy. and i have no idea who any of those guys are

by Expatcardfan on May 27, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't enjoy it much

until I saw some matches live in England with real soccer fans. It’s great to have someone with love for the game explaining the nuances.

My girlfriend hated baseball until I explained the different pitches and such and now she’s got things to actually look for when she watches.

by Cedar Plank on May 27, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

i went to my first MLS matches with DC last year

with some season ticket holders, and honestly, its one of the most fun sporting experiences i can think of. but agreed, you have to watch with people who know what’s going on, and can explain some things to you

by Expatcardfan on May 27, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

join in with barra brava and screaming eagles or la norte

those guys are fun… hung out with them at many a national team game

by BirdsonFire on May 27, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

rfk has bouncing stands along the sidelines

those guys are a lot of fun… you should head up to chicago and do a game with section 8 sometime… those guys are also a lot of fun

by BirdsonFire on May 27, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

i've been to a ton of them

chicago, kc, columbus, dallas, milwaukee (open cup), peoria (open cup)

part of being a fan is following the team… nothing like a road game

by BirdsonFire on May 27, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

then why no love for mls?

pretty much all of them cut their teeth there

by BirdsonFire on May 27, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

i dont hate the MLS...i just like watching the premiership

i do like D.C. United but the MLS gets old because the lack of talent i see at times just makes me sick

by Rasmus Fan on May 27, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

i like the competitiveness of the league

anyone can win… not 3 teams, anyone

i see a bigger problem with buying old talent instead of developing young, new talent… most leagues and teams the world over are about developing talent… only a few teams can be the yankees of their respective leagues

by BirdsonFire on May 27, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

i see to many has beens in the MLS

problem is that when people like jozy and freddy get good they move across seas we need someone to stay dedicated, even lando is talkin about leavin the US

by Rasmus Fan on May 27, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's not a problem

that’s the way the game is done

by BirdsonFire on May 27, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

everyone sells

everyone buys

players don’t stay with teams or leagues (well, unless you are english or mexican… their players are strangely very insular)

by BirdsonFire on May 27, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do NOT

want red cards from the Mrs.!

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on May 27, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

exactly why I can't understand it

though I did find it funny the other day when I saw a guy get kicked in the groin

"People call me El Hombre," Pujols said. "But only Stan is the Man."

by StLHugo on May 27, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

soccer is so boring to me

but then again, a lot of people think baseball is boring so I digress

4B - beer baseball bands blog
"OOHHHHH!!!! He knocked out the I in Big Mac Land!!"

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 27, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would think it could be more aptly characterized

as a continuous stream of inaciton, or at least rather inconsequential action. Team passes it around, dribbles, gets upfield….other team takes the ball away, passes it, dribbles, gets upfield, other team takes it away and so on for what seems like forever…nobody scores (at least not when I’m watching). No thanks

by mattyp on May 27, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

not much scoring going on

4B - beer baseball bands blog
"OOHHHHH!!!! He knocked out the I in Big Mac Land!!"

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 27, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm probably selfish, but

I wish Wellemeyer was a bit more judicious with his pitches. 43 through three innings is still a bit high. Particularly with only one hit and no runs…

by JWO on May 27, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Waino had 61 last night iirc

and he still went pretty far, welle just needs to settle in and have some quick innings to make up for it.

"People call me El Hombre," Pujols said. "But only Stan is the Man."

by StLHugo on May 27, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

The difference is

I trust Wainwright to throw 110 pitches. Do you trust Welle to fling that many?

by JWO on May 27, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

43 pitches through 3 isnt that many at all....

just 4.8 pitches per out, and that doesnt count hits or walks

Mang Says...
"There is no "I" in team, or in B g Mac Land, either."

by all4tookie on May 27, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

If he is pitching to contact

He can throw fewer pitches. But again, I said I was selfish. Would just like to see Wellemeyer make it throw seven innings.

by JWO on May 27, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

4.8x3x7 = 101

If he keeps up the pace, you get your wish

Mang Says...
"There is no "I" in team, or in B g Mac Land, either."

by all4tookie on May 27, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah, but did you ever see

The Fulton Flash, Bake McBride???

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on May 27, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

On the replay,

he did look at Oquendo as he approached second.

"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on May 27, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

So, that game earlier this year where Thurston got thrown out at 3rd for the 1st out of an inning

I defended him, maybe to a fault, calling it “aggressive baserunning.” I’ve now changed my position. He’s a stupid baserunner.

I've got one foot on the platform, the other foot on the train
I'm going back to New Orleans, to wear that ball and chain

by jd is legend on May 27, 2009 2:05 PM EDT reply actions  

He has larceny in his heart,

but his feet are honest!

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on May 27, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

ok maybe not

4B - beer baseball bands blog
"OOHHHHH!!!! He knocked out the I in Big Mac Land!!"

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 27, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Unfortunately,

that was our dude out at third…

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on May 27, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dammit Welley

You get Braun and Fielder out, then let that scrub beat you? Also, DON’T WALK PEOPLE!!

I've got one foot on the platform, the other foot on the train
I'm going back to New Orleans, to wear that ball and chain

by jd is legend on May 27, 2009 2:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Amen

without the walk, we still have the lead.

by ArkansasTravs on May 27, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Oh, dem bases on balls!"

— Frankie Frisch

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on May 27, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Todd's demeanor on the mound is way different than previous inning

Pitches are up and you can tell he doesnt have confidence in location this inning. Work through it, kid.

by The_teague on May 27, 2009 2:16 PM EDT reply actions  

I knew something bad happened

when gameday took forever to show the first pitch to Catalanotto

TRADE FOR DEROSA!!!

by Cuttah on May 27, 2009 2:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Come on guys

what happened to working the count?

TRADE FOR DEROSA!!!

by Cuttah on May 27, 2009 2:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Easily.

"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on May 27, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know

His start in 2007 was pretty craptastic.

by Andyfantastic on May 27, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I remember him starting off one April really slow

maybe 07?

But I can’t remember if it was this bad

TRADE FOR DEROSA!!!

by Cuttah on May 27, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't remember if I read this here, in Goold's 10@10, or somewhere else,

but I remember reading recently that his May OPS will almost certainly be his career worst for a month.

by BTown Birds fan on May 27, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I read the same thing,

wherever it was.

"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on May 27, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can't watch the game

but does it look like Albert’s stance is not as low and crouched as it was in April when he was punishing the ball? Thats what it looked like to me last time I watched. I don’t know if that is entirely his problem—his timing seems way off too—but it is the thing that sticks out to me.

by mattyp on May 27, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

His legs

are slightly different this year. Don’t think his stance has changed mid-season, though.

"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on May 27, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

According to Gameday his May OPS is 1.032

I wouldn’t be surprised if that is his worst month, but my god that is ridiculous.

by ChicagoRedBird on May 27, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

April 07

OPS of .832

"People call me El Hombre," Pujols said. "But only Stan is the Man."

by StLHugo on May 27, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

still looking for more:

in a short June 2006 (10 games) he had a .715 OPS
May 2002 .804 OPS, most months were under 1.000
July 2001 it was .793, his lowest full month that I found

"People call me El Hombre," Pujols said. "But only Stan is the Man."

by StLHugo on May 27, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whatever.

I know what my eyes are telling me.

/sarcasm

(Clearly I am wrong.)

"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on May 27, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow - either I have a terrible memory, or what I read was complete crap

It doesn’t feel like he’s had an OPS of 1.032 this month, but clearly it’s a long way from his worst….

by BTown Birds fan on May 27, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Welley 3K

4B - beer baseball bands blog
"OOHHHHH!!!! He knocked out the I in Big Mac Land!!"

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 27, 2009 2:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Is anyone else annoyed

by the logo on the back of the mound?

by ducttape16 on May 27, 2009 2:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes.

That stuff drives me crazy. Soon it will be ads.

"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on May 27, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

yessss

15 tvs with the UEFA final on, 1 with St. Louis vs. Milwaukee

by Expatcardfan on May 27, 2009 2:26 PM EDT reply actions  

over 10 million watched

the US-Mexico qualifier a couple months back in columbus

by BirdsonFire on May 27, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

How much of that was because it was Mexico?

8 million?

Mang Says...
"There is no "I" in team, or in B g Mac Land, either."

by all4tookie on May 27, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

i have no idea

but it also should tell you there is a market for soccer in this country

by BirdsonFire on May 27, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Out of a country of 300 million...

And how many of those people came from elsewhere, where soccer is huge?

by ducttape16 on May 27, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

weird that both Welley and Wainer

had to adjust their arm slots to start out the season

4B - beer baseball bands blog
"OOHHHHH!!!! He knocked out the I in Big Mac Land!!"

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 27, 2009 2:27 PM EDT reply actions  

buckle down Welley

we need this out

4B - beer baseball bands blog
"OOHHHHH!!!! He knocked out the I in Big Mac Land!!"

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 27, 2009 2:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Shit Welley!

I've got one foot on the platform, the other foot on the train
I'm going back to New Orleans, to wear that ball and chain

by jd is legend on May 27, 2009 2:30 PM EDT reply actions  

But it did!

Way to go, Colonel!

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on May 27, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

wisheeew

4B - beer baseball bands blog
"OOHHHHH!!!! He knocked out the I in Big Mac Land!!"

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 27, 2009 2:32 PM EDT reply actions  

not this time

fairly routine pop up

4B - beer baseball bands blog
"OOHHHHH!!!! He knocked out the I in Big Mac Land!!"

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 27, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Usually it means something like

“Ryan Braun singles to CF. Fielding error by S. Schumaker. C. Counsell scores. Throwing error by Joe Thurston. J.J. Hardy scores. Braun advances to third. LaRussa ejected from game. Injury delay. A. Pujols out for season with exploded aorta.”

by Andyfantastic on May 27, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

How 'bout two?

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on May 27, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I get it

I've got one foot on the platform, the other foot on the train
I'm going back to New Orleans, to wear that ball and chain

by jd is legend on May 27, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

or Brett Wallace

I have been to lazy to finish this article I was writing about but if we brought Wallace up now. He wouldn’t be a Super Two anymore. So we could bring him up for the rest of the season and still get him for 2 more years under salary till Arbitration.

Stat Whore

by FlimtotheFlam on May 27, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

if that happens

Tyler Greene or Boog should be starting at short every game

4B - beer baseball bands blog
"OOHHHHH!!!! He knocked out the I in Big Mac Land!!"

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 27, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

According to Mo,

he ain’t ready with the glove yet…

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on May 27, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

I’m not opposed to letting the guy wait until ’10

4B - beer baseball bands blog
"OOHHHHH!!!! He knocked out the I in Big Mac Land!!"

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 27, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lets say we wait till 2010

He will be a Super Two and we will only have him for 2010 and 2011. So his glove seriously has to be that bad.

Stat Whore

by FlimtotheFlam on May 27, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly

I don’t understand defense as being a reason not to bring him up. If you start Wallace and Ryan/T. Greene, it is no worse defensively than Thurston and K Greene.

by ChicagoRedBird on May 27, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have been clamoring for Wallace as well but I read the piece over at FR today and now I think I may be wrong.

Speaking of being wrong I also would like to retract my disinterest in Derosa. It looks like he would be a good fit for us as long as we don’t have to give up too much. Let’s hope Mo can get him soon.

"Rasmus doesn't hit lefties. Instead he bashes them over the head with their own bleeding arm he just raced to the mound to rip off before the ball arrives to the plate. He then smashes that baseball with the pitchers bloody arm over the wall because he does not hit lefites he bashes them." Ted Lilly

by Red Blazer on May 27, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't know if the Royals got him on the trading block

I know the Marlins are shopping Cantu, of course DeRosa is a huge name out there. Also got Beltre and Atkins.

by The_teague on May 27, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would not be a fan of Beltre...

I’ve never liked that guy. Not sure why but not a fan.

by ducttape16 on May 27, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I second that

No real reason, but not a fan.

by cardsgirl95 on May 27, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe it's

because he’s had one monster season, 2 decent seasons, and a bunch of .700 OPS seasons. His OPS is .577 for 2009. His 2009 WAR is 0.3.

He’s just not that good.

"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on May 27, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

my wife and mother in law would be so sad...

I would be so happy though :)

SlamalamaJackADongWick cares very little about your draft pick standing-by gdm426

by FredbirdisaDork on May 27, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

cowboy!

4B - beer baseball bands blog
"OOHHHHH!!!! He knocked out the I in Big Mac Land!!"

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 27, 2009 2:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Fuckin' A

I've got one foot on the platform, the other foot on the train
I'm going back to New Orleans, to wear that ball and chain

by jd is legend on May 27, 2009 2:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Viva El Stavos!

Down with Pujols!

Mang Says...
"There is no "I" in team, or in B g Mac Land, either."

by all4tookie on May 27, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Milwaukee is the site of a massive outbreak once again

Stavi Infections have been witness by all that have attended the Brewers-Cards series. Authorities are telling everyone to remain calm. They believe that once the Cardinals fly south the epidemic will be over.

More at 6.

by BirdsonFire on May 27, 2009 2:38 PM EDT reply actions  

thursty, meh

4B - beer baseball bands blog
"OOHHHHH!!!! He knocked out the I in Big Mac Land!!"

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 27, 2009 2:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Nooooo GIDP

sigh

"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."

by sirensofsilence on May 27, 2009 2:39 PM EDT reply actions  

+1

4B - beer baseball bands blog
"OOHHHHH!!!! He knocked out the I in Big Mac Land!!"

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 27, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here though is the 2010 3B FA List

Adrian Beltre SEA
Hank Blalock TEX
Geoff Blum HOU
Joe Crede MIN
Pedro Feliz * PHI
Chone Figgins LAA
Troy Glaus STL
Mike Lamb MIL
Melvin Mora * BAL

( * means an option)

Stat Whore

by FlimtotheFlam on May 27, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are you from JC??

"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."

by sirensofsilence on May 27, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am originally

but don’t tell anyone. That’s impossible though, because Crede is from Westphalia, so he went to Blair Oaks, while Justin Gage went to JC. ;)

"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."

by sirensofsilence on May 27, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

i thought Crede did a year in JC?

maybe i’m thinking wrong. i ain’t bright.

by Expatcardfan on May 27, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

you're so down on yourself.

Don’t look at it as being “not bright”, look at it as being “exceptionally dull”

by STLRegalia on May 27, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think so

I mean, Westphalia is like 5 minutes from Jeff City, so I know his hometown is listed as JC. But it’s a different school system. But then, that’s my understanding. So who knows.

"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."

by sirensofsilence on May 27, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

my old roomie is a liar

i will be taking this out on him. when he gets back from Hawai’i. i hate that guy.

by Expatcardfan on May 27, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he went to Blair Oaks, anyway

But either way, he didn’t go to JC.

"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."

by sirensofsilence on May 27, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

P.S. How old is your old roommate?

Probably too old for my time if he’s Crede’s/Gage’s age though.

"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."

by sirensofsilence on May 27, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

just that he hasn’t heard enough from the Glaus camp to think that he will be able to come back

4B - beer baseball bands blog
"OOHHHHH!!!! He knocked out the I in Big Mac Land!!"

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 27, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ahaha

Being run over by a sausage.

"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."

by sirensofsilence on May 27, 2009 2:42 PM EDT reply actions  

ok, this makes me dizzy

soccer on a bunch of tv’s, but not all using the same feed, and one is about 2-3 seconds off. its kind of disorienting to see

by Expatcardfan on May 27, 2009 2:42 PM EDT reply actions  

not the same feed?

it’s fifa’s feed… are some hi-def and some not?

by BirdsonFire on May 27, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

which would cause a delay

if ESPN has to receive a feed then rebroadcast it while some of the other tvs are getting it from a channel other than ESPN the delay is most likely being caused by the rebroadcaster

"People call me El Hombre," Pujols said. "But only Stan is the Man."

by StLHugo on May 27, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

feed yes

but lets say it is on two channels, ESPN receives FIFA and Channel B receives FIFA, ESPN then has to send it back out and might add 2 seconds of delay while Channel B adds 4, that means there is a 2 second difference in the what the viewers see

"People call me El Hombre," Pujols said. "But only Stan is the Man."

by StLHugo on May 27, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Quick Question

I was listening to the game on the radio at lunch. How bad was Go-Go-Joe’s go-go-going for a triple? Rooney said he was cut down by four feet.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on May 27, 2009 2:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Worse than that!

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on May 27, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've said it once and I'll say it again

Joe Thurston is a horrendous baserunner. It’s inexcusable. That’s four or five patently horrible baserunning blunders by him this season.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on May 27, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not to mention him nearly running down Rasmus in the OF.

"Rasmus doesn't hit lefties. Instead he bashes them over the head with their own bleeding arm he just raced to the mound to rip off before the ball arrives to the plate. He then smashes that baseball with the pitchers bloody arm over the wall because he does not hit lefites he bashes them." Ted Lilly

by Red Blazer on May 27, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't blame Thurston for that

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on May 27, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I do

Rasmus was calling him off (even if he wasn’t yelling loudly enough or whatever) and Thurston has to know that’s the CF’s ball. TLR is partly to blame, however, for putting Thurston in the OF to begin with.

I've got one foot on the platform, the other foot on the train
I'm going back to New Orleans, to wear that ball and chain

by jd is legend on May 27, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he should pay more attention to what is going on around him. Playing with Blinders on doesn't seem beneficial to the teams success.

"Rasmus doesn't hit lefties. Instead he bashes them over the head with their own bleeding arm he just raced to the mound to rip off before the ball arrives to the plate. He then smashes that baseball with the pitchers bloody arm over the wall because he does not hit lefites he bashes them." Ted Lilly

by Red Blazer on May 27, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seems like an odd time to pull Welley

I've got one foot on the platform, the other foot on the train
I'm going back to New Orleans, to wear that ball and chain

by jd is legend on May 27, 2009 2:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Two LH hitters up next;

bring in the LOOGY…

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on May 27, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but

Welley was only at 88 pitches, and Fielder (two batters earlier) is a lefty. Either bring in the lefty at the beginning of the inning or let Welley finish the inning, IMO. Unless TLR says “Well, Catalanotto is 2-2 off Welley, that must mean he always gets a hit off of him, we can’t let him pitch to him.”

I've got one foot on the platform, the other foot on the train
I'm going back to New Orleans, to wear that ball and chain

by jd is legend on May 27, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, but

it’s welley… the guy when one of our guys gets tagged… we say his era has been welleyed

by BirdsonFire on May 27, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

not to mention

I think the bullpen needs some work

4B - beer baseball bands blog
"OOHHHHH!!!! He knocked out the I in Big Mac Land!!"

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 27, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

if he had gotten fielder I think he would still be in

but since he dind’t get fielder he got to face the righty then a LOOGY is brought in, it actually does make sense

"People call me El Hombre," Pujols said. "But only Stan is the Man."

by StLHugo on May 27, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow

I just realized there was a game going on. For awhile there I thought I had gone to hell and would have no sports to follow outside of soccer.

by STLRegalia on May 27, 2009 2:49 PM EDT reply actions  

I had no idea Trever Miller was this good

He can get Catalanotto out?

Lou Brock loves Lamp.

by birdjam on May 27, 2009 2:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Albert or Thurston

bigger goat of the game so far?

TRADE FOR DEROSA!!!

by Cuttah on May 27, 2009 2:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Great Googly Moogly!

Albert having a Bill Buckner moment… Now I’ve seen it all!

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on May 27, 2009 2:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Except

during a relatively meaningless game.

"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on May 27, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

At work

Fill me in on that error. What happened?

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on May 27, 2009 2:52 PM EDT reply actions  

I HATE

the 5-hole!!!! (That’s what the stick is for, dammit!)

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on May 27, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Unbelievable

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on May 27, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

TLR better not let Miller face Kendall here

I've got one foot on the platform, the other foot on the train
I'm going back to New Orleans, to wear that ball and chain

by jd is legend on May 27, 2009 2:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Perez coming in

"People call me El Hombre," Pujols said. "But only Stan is the Man."

by StLHugo on May 27, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

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