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Game 44 Open Thread -- May 23, 2009

Kansas City Royals at St. Louis Cardinals, May 23, 2009 1:10 PM EDT


 

Hochevar Lohse
0-1, 16.88 3-3, 4.66

It was another well pitched game last night -- this one by Wellemeyer. Granted, neither the Cubs nor the Royals are hitting very well right now but a few good starts ought to, at the very least, give our pitchers some well-needed confidence. After 4 well pitched games in a row, and 4 consecutive wins, Lohse goes for #5 this afternoon. He's had 3 pretty bad outings in a row. Maybe the Royals will help him out a little. After starting last year really strong, he went through a similar stretch of 3 not very good games right at the beginning of May and then turned it around w/ a 6 inning, 2 ER, 0 BB stint against the Rays. Rays, Royals...interleague play...if that ain't foreshadowing, I don't know what is.

Despite the fact that many of us were panicking just a few days ago, and those of us who weren't were concerned, the Cards have run off 4 straight wins, largely due to strong starting pitching. We're still not hitting that well but we're getting on base often enough to squeeze across just enough runs to win. I'm excited to see Luke Hochevar, unfortunately I'm not going to be able to, thanks to the ridiculous MLB blackout rules. Oh well. I guess I'll have to follow along on gameday.

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Hope Lohse can continue the trend

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring" -Rogers Hornsby

by stlwcards on May 23, 2009 12:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Going off memory

Saw this about an hour ago…..

Skip 2B
Rasmus CF
Pujols 1B
Duncan LF
Stavi RF
Molina C
Barden 3B
Lohse P
T Greene SS

"Stats are for losers," Muschamp said after last week's victory. "I like winning games."

by SoonerfanTU on May 23, 2009 1:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Gotta say

I really dislike Stavi hitting 5th

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring" -Rogers Hornsby

by stlwcards on May 23, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know but

for some reason I really dislike him

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring" -Rogers Hornsby

by stlwcards on May 23, 2009 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

but it might also lead

to a less stav infections

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring" -Rogers Hornsby

by stlwcards on May 23, 2009 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

As long as we dont have

Thursty in Left ill be okay

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring" -Rogers Hornsby

by stlwcards on May 23, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now I feel like an idiot

Good Job Stavi

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring" -Rogers Hornsby

by stlwcards on May 23, 2009 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

the GOB are fickle indeed

and man do they have a weird sense of humor….

by nota bene on May 23, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

The lineups,

per Hummel:

Kansas City

Coco Crisp cf
David DeJesus lf
Billy Butler 1b
Jose Guillen rf
Mark Teahen 3b
Alberto Callaspo 2b
Miguel Olvo c
Mike Aviles ss
Luke Hochevar p

Cardinals:

Skip Schumaker 2b
Colby Rasmus cf
Albert Pujols 1b
Chris Duncan lf
Nick Stavinoha rf
Yadier Molina c
Brian Barden 3b
Kyle Lohse p
Tyler Greene ss

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on May 23, 2009 1:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Im watching it on FSNMW

but alas im in st charles

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring" -Rogers Hornsby

by stlwcards on May 23, 2009 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm in the fucking eastern time zone!

its not like not airing the game on tv is keeping me from buying a ticket to the game

by Expatcardfan on May 23, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes but you watching this game on FSMW

Would stop you from watching a game on Fox and we wouldn’t want to ruin their Ratings, They would pay less next year

by cyko42 on May 23, 2009 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well we cant have that can we

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring" -Rogers Hornsby

by stlwcards on May 23, 2009 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Uh...

The “F” in FSN stands for Fox…

I think the “black-out” is thru MLB.TV, but I don’t grok their rules at all, at all…

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on May 23, 2009 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

What hes saying is that

Fox would pay less to have the games on saturday played on their network

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring" -Rogers Hornsby

by stlwcards on May 23, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah,

Basically If you only allow fans in the area to view the games you force those that are baseball fans to watch the game that is nationally broadcasted driving the ratings up for that game. Inflating the price that fox has to pay MLB for the privileged of broadcasting the game ( I assume that the price paid by fox for the national broadcast is more then the corporation pays to broadcast all the local teams game)

by cyko42 on May 23, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Steal the base David

I dare, I double Dare you

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring" -Rogers Hornsby

by stlwcards on May 23, 2009 1:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Triple Dog Dare!

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on May 23, 2009 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hes no Jo-El

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring" -Rogers Hornsby

by stlwcards on May 23, 2009 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Change speeds, throw strikes...

…and remember that #5 is on your team!"

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on May 23, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

i like raz in center

more and more every day

and i’m one of the ankiel fanboys

by prophetjohn on May 23, 2009 1:20 PM EDT reply actions  

I like Ank

but he seems to make every routine flyball, like the one that Raz just got, seem much much more difficult

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring" -Rogers Hornsby

by stlwcards on May 23, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

i hate college baseball conference and regional tournament time

sportssouth and fox sports south are being taken over by college baseball so no game on tv for me

by VolsnCards5 on May 23, 2009 1:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Same here in West Tenn,

Luckily my friend is letting me bum off of his mlbtv.

"I remember once talking to one guy on the Cardinals and asking him what Pujols was like as a teammate. He said something that’s really special, if you think about it. He said: "Albert is so good that you feel like you let him down when you screw up." I thought that had to be the ultimate line that could ever be said about a ballplayer. I build my baseball team around that ballplayer."

by Smokin Turkeys on May 23, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thats what i figured

I guess we cant complain though, getting all the games we get for free.

"I remember once talking to one guy on the Cardinals and asking him what Pujols was like as a teammate. He said something that’s really special, if you think about it. He said: "Albert is so good that you feel like you let him down when you screw up." I thought that had to be the ultimate line that could ever be said about a ballplayer. I build my baseball team around that ballplayer."

by Smokin Turkeys on May 23, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Big mistake

you do not walk baserunners in front of stavi
Hochevar you will regret this

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring" -Rogers Hornsby

by stlwcards on May 23, 2009 1:25 PM EDT reply actions  

I like

that thought!

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on May 23, 2009 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Told you Hochevar

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring" -Rogers Hornsby

by stlwcards on May 23, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

What is with the mound visits in the first

two games in a row for KC

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring" -Rogers Hornsby

by stlwcards on May 23, 2009 1:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Three strikes in 13 pitches will do that...

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on May 23, 2009 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Got lucky that

the catcher dropped it

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring" -Rogers Hornsby

by stlwcards on May 23, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dear Nick

You are a large mofo. Crush the damn ball.

Thanks,
Cardinals fans

Passion Pit, F*** Yeah!

by Cuttah on May 23, 2009 1:29 PM EDT reply actions  

He Did! He Did!

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on May 23, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did Dunc just score from 1st?

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring" -Rogers Hornsby

by stlwcards on May 23, 2009 1:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Yup!

Throw was nowhere near the plate, allowing Stav to take 3rd…

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on May 23, 2009 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

yessir

telling you…he’s got sneaky speed

by VolsnCards5 on May 23, 2009 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

so, it looks like the Stav infection has hit KC

i can tell from the little white dot that moved really fast on the espn gamecast thing

by Expatcardfan on May 23, 2009 1:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Speaking of slumping

when’s the last time Yadi got a hit?

Passion Pit, F*** Yeah!

by Cuttah on May 23, 2009 1:32 PM EDT reply actions  

He's 1 for his last 14

Last hit was against on the 19 against chicago

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring" -Rogers Hornsby

by stlwcards on May 23, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

When he reaches base!

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on May 23, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is it just me

or is “Alberto Collapso” more like a name for a Mike Tyson’s Punch-Out! Villian than it is for a baseball player?

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on May 23, 2009 1:38 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

+1

Also gotta love the fact that Soda Popinski was named Vodka Drunkinski in the original arcade game.

"Every epoch dreams its successor" - Jules Michelet

by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 23, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm a little late on this

because I just started watching the game on MLB.TV, but Stav is having a good streak right now.

Welcome to Baseball Heaven.

by zoomzoomj88 on May 23, 2009 1:39 PM EDT reply actions  

if you only count the 1st inning in each game

then yes he is great

gonna need more franklins to get through this one.

by hoofhearted-pujols on May 23, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

fair enough

gonna need more franklins to get through this one.

by hoofhearted-pujols on May 23, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

He has earned a little bit of respect

two big hits in the last two games

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring" -Rogers Hornsby

by stlwcards on May 23, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes very slow

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring" -Rogers Hornsby

by stlwcards on May 23, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

So far, they've been easy fly-outs...

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on May 23, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Some of those flyballs are going to drop

Lohse needs to get some GB’s

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring" -Rogers Hornsby

by stlwcards on May 23, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

outs are outs

ground balls find holes

Passion Pit, F*** Yeah!

by Cuttah on May 23, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes but they are usually singles

when fly balls or line drives drop it usually means xb’s

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring" -Rogers Hornsby

by stlwcards on May 23, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

And Shu

gets an XBH!

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on May 23, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

most of them haven't been line drives though

they are cans of corn , which don’t drop often

Passion Pit, F*** Yeah!

by Cuttah on May 23, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree but,

as we just saw they can get a hold of one like Schu did and if someones on base….

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring" -Rogers Hornsby

by stlwcards on May 23, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

true

i’d prefer ground balls, or strike outs, but i’ll take outs any way they come :)

Passion Pit, F*** Yeah!

by Cuttah on May 23, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Love the two spokesman for the Rams

Josh Brown and Chris Draft

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring" -Rogers Hornsby

by stlwcards on May 23, 2009 1:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Does anyone else

find irony in the Rams telling kids to play 60 when I don’t think the Rams have played 60 minutes of a football game in several years?

by ducttape16 on May 23, 2009 1:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Skippy!!!!!

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring" -Rogers Hornsby

by stlwcards on May 23, 2009 1:56 PM EDT reply actions  

he is getting to pull happy

to be fair though…he seems to be only swinging at strikes…he just needs to go the other way on pitches on the outer half

by VolsnCards5 on May 23, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like how that " I am gonna hustle around thoe bases after a HR"

is really catching on lately

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on May 23, 2009 2:00 PM EDT reply actions  

It = grit

and you know how Tony loves grit

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring" -Rogers Hornsby

by stlwcards on May 23, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Only because

Eck or Miles didnt hit enough homeruns

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring" -Rogers Hornsby

by stlwcards on May 23, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shaved it yesterday

i dont like it makes him look like hes 19

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring" -Rogers Hornsby

by stlwcards on May 23, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

If ya ain't hittin' with a beard...

shave the darn thing off, and try that!

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on May 23, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Those guys are superstitious enough

that I’d actually believe that that might be the thought process.

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on May 23, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't have room to talk...

I’m currently rocking the playoff beard.

by ducttape16 on May 23, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

me too

it might be a real beard by the time the playoffs get here

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on May 23, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's a Wings version

of a playoff beard… worked pretty well last year so I brought it back.

by ducttape16 on May 23, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heh!

Been rockin’ the playoff beard since 1977… (No Stanley Cups, but one World series win!) ;-)

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on May 23, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Memory' startin' to slip!

’64 and ’67 were pre-beard, obviously!

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on May 23, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Duncan =Shannon (except not really)

and I have not even started on the franklins yet!

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on May 23, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Be warned

finding a radio feed will give you the musings of John Rooney and Ricky Horton. Not recommended.

"Every epoch dreams its successor" - Jules Michelet

by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 23, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gameday

for 20 bucks…

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on May 23, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm a supergenius

just realized that i subscribed to this crap back in 2007. still, the idea of paying anything for radio just seems wrong.

by Expatcardfan on May 23, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shannon's not working

this weekend. He’s “on assignment.”

The cat is fine, thank you.

by Intheway on May 23, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damn

that sucks

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring" -Rogers Hornsby

by stlwcards on May 23, 2009 2:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Reminds me of

the 04 World Series and Soup

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring" -Rogers Hornsby

by stlwcards on May 23, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was way worse

any time Papi makes the play to get you out it’s automatically a different level of suck.

by ducttape16 on May 23, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

plus the way that he just stared at him for a full minute

before deciding to run anywhere

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring" -Rogers Hornsby

by stlwcards on May 23, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heck,

I’m still convinced we win the WS in ‘68 if Curt Flood doesn’t slip in Game 7!!!

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on May 23, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nope!

Cardfan since the Age of Reason, Bluesfan since they were born…

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on May 23, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was before my time

But I don’t think there was any way we would have won that 04 series… no one could have stopped that team after coming back from 0-3 against the Yankees.

by ducttape16 on May 23, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep,

we got that slip in the outfield back in ’06 though.

by ArkansasTravs on May 23, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

he is the only reason that wasn't a GIDP

so I guess I can give him some credit :P

Passion Pit, F*** Yeah!

by Cuttah on May 23, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

and if Dunc doesn't swing there

he steals the base easily

Passion Pit, F*** Yeah!

by Cuttah on May 23, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

it is forgiven

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on May 23, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

You'd think...

he would have heard the ball of the bat and the crowd’s reaction when it got through.

by LukeMP1186 on May 23, 2009 2:03 PM EDT reply actions  

It's hard to hear

much of anything on the field… the crowd tends to drown out most sounds.

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on May 23, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yay Lohse!

Starting to settle in. Go get me several more fantasy points before I sell you tonight kid!

by ArkansasTravs on May 23, 2009 2:08 PM EDT reply actions  

was teahen as highly thought of as a hitter coming out of college

as brett wallace is now?

just trying to guage if wallace may have a serious adjustment period like teahen went/is going through

by VolsnCards5 on May 23, 2009 2:09 PM EDT reply actions  

even if he was

every player adjusts differently.

Passion Pit, F*** Yeah!

by Cuttah on May 23, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

true

but if wallace is considered the better hitter…he won’t have to adjust as much

by VolsnCards5 on May 23, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

seeing as how Teahen played at Saint Mary's

and Wallace destroyed the Pac 10 at a real school. I’d say Wallace would be considered the better hitter coming out of college

Passion Pit, F*** Yeah!

by Cuttah on May 23, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

just wondering the same thing

I am not in front of a TV, but horton and rooney make it sound like they are half way to second before he pitches the ball

gonna need more franklins to get through this one.

by hoofhearted-pujols on May 23, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Molina steals 2nd

on the worst throw by a catcher i’ve ever seen

Passion Pit, F*** Yeah!

by Cuttah on May 23, 2009 2:12 PM EDT reply actions  

In his defense,

Barden could have been called for interference.

by ArkansasTravs on May 23, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

RED LINE!!!!

You can’t stop speed like that.

by ducttape16 on May 23, 2009 2:12 PM EDT reply actions  

so let me get this straight

Apu and Yadi are both gonna hit double digits in SBs this year?

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on May 23, 2009 2:12 PM EDT reply actions  

we are finally running this year

i think yadi now has more SB’s than rasmsus

by VolsnCards5 on May 23, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

APu Si,

Yadi No!

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on May 23, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope not

St. Louis Cardinals... defying win expectancy since 2008

by vivaelpujols on May 23, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Speed to burn for Molina

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring" -Rogers Hornsby

by stlwcards on May 23, 2009 2:13 PM EDT reply actions  

YADI, WHERE WERE YA GOIN"???

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on May 23, 2009 2:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Steal bases, then make stupid outs

2 innings in a row

Passion Pit, F*** Yeah!

by Cuttah on May 23, 2009 2:13 PM EDT reply actions  

no game on tv

listening to somebody other than Shannon on the radio. i feel cheated.

by Expatcardfan on May 23, 2009 2:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Growing up

listening to Jack Buck and Harry Caray on KMOX, I feel a little “cheated” listening to anybody else!

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on May 23, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

i miss the old jack buck and mike shannon days

my dad and i listened to almost every game it seemed like. and my dad loved rain delays, because it just gave shannon a chance to go on drunken story telling time. god, i want a burger now.

by Expatcardfan on May 23, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good rip by Greene

but right at Teahen

Passion Pit, F*** Yeah!

by Cuttah on May 23, 2009 2:16 PM EDT reply actions  

So did Ankiel hurt the oblique...

on the play at the wall or what? The details seem kind of hazy on that…

by LukeMP1186 on May 23, 2009 2:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey guys, just started watching, a couple of questions

was Stavinoah’s double well hit?

How did Schumaker hit another homer?

Why is our pitching so good the last week?

St. Louis Cardinals... defying win expectancy since 2008

by vivaelpujols on May 23, 2009 2:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Stavi RIPPED it

down the line, Skippy got “all of it”, and our pitchers have quit walking the world!

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on May 23, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

1) Yes.

2) I don’t know.

3) I don’t know.

by LukeMP1186 on May 23, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

1. yes
2. Schu has sneaky power
3. SINKERBALL

by VolsnCards5 on May 23, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damn

beat me to “THROW MORE SINKERS”

"Every epoch dreams its successor" - Jules Michelet

by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 23, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha

remedy for throwing to many sinkers—-“THROW MORE SINKERS”

by VolsnCards5 on May 23, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

as requested

yes
steriods
bad hitting

gonna need more franklins to get through this one.

by hoofhearted-pujols on May 23, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

i am positive

I think we have a good team, but other than the first question no one on this site can possibly answer the other two questions. so, i made a joke out of it

gonna need more franklins to get through this one.

by hoofhearted-pujols on May 23, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

1. yes
2. he is getting his OMS or OMP
3. the last few weeks the pitchers have just been lulling other teams hitters into a false sense of confidence. sneaky bastards

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on May 23, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I bet Lohse...

is thrilled with these developments.

by LukeMP1186 on May 23, 2009 2:19 PM EDT reply actions  

My phone told me Yadi stole a base...

…and I got so excited that I came and got on the internet to see if he’d score. Fail.

by Ferociousaurus on May 23, 2009 2:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Wouldn't even know where to begin.

On the bright side, they still have their first game ahead of them, which is exciting.

by Kind_Al on May 23, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

i was just thinking this

because i have a college women’t softball game on tv, and they’re not wearing hats. and it reminded me of last year, when i took a colleague from the Netherlands to his first baseball game ever. he had a lot of hilarious questions, my favorite being “why are they wearing hats? its night time.”

by Expatcardfan on May 23, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Weird

You’d think he’d know all there is to know about baseball with that WBC team they have over there and all.

by ducttape16 on May 23, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, they cheat

all their players are from the caribbean islands that are colonies or something of the Netherlands

by Expatcardfan on May 23, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

goddam lohse is pitching well

St. Louis Cardinals... defying win expectancy since 2008

by vivaelpujols on May 23, 2009 2:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Hiya Zack

So glad we’re not facing you this weekend.

by peach concrete on May 23, 2009 2:25 PM EDT reply actions  

KL

5.0IP 3H 0R 0BB 4K
65 pitches/46 strikes

that’s pretty fierce

by nota bene on May 23, 2009 2:27 PM EDT reply actions  

I think with all our hitting elsewhere...

It might be best to focus on defense in the middle infield, especially since some of our pitchers are super contact-oriented and (ideally) ground ball-oriented.

by Ferociousaurus on May 23, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's true

but it means that offense is @ a premium from your corner positions….

by nota bene on May 23, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yup.

So we need to get a stupid third baseman. Then, Brendan Ryan/Tyler Greene tandem methinks.

by Ferociousaurus on May 23, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

that is true

i’m not sure if i can recall him hitting it to left

by Expatcardfan on May 23, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

he was willing to up until about a week ago

had a couple hits to left and center

i think he is trying to hit homers

by VolsnCards5 on May 23, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yea

it seems like he got a taste for the long ball, and that’s all he’s trying to do n ow.

Passion Pit, F*** Yeah!

by Cuttah on May 23, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

hitting coach needs to earn his paycheck

if we can diagnose it, paige shoudl be all over it

by VolsnCards5 on May 23, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

i know chicks dig the long ball and all

but Tony Gwynn found himself a good woman too, Colby. think about it.

by Expatcardfan on May 23, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

reading between the lines, i think that’s what the cardinals tried to work on last year at memphis and you can see the results.

by greenback06 on May 23, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

yea but he can do it

i’ve seen him hitl line drives to left, he’s not trying to right now

by VolsnCards5 on May 23, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

is it just me or

is dan one of the more negative home announcers I have heard? i dont get to listen much but the last few times i have I cannot stand the guy. he really wares on me.

maybe thats his schtick allways bringing the negative side.

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on May 23, 2009 2:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Listen to Marty Brenneman sometime...

what a ripper!

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on May 23, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

i guess its the times i have listen

the other day everytime AP batted it was about his slump, going into breaks coming back from breaks…meanwhile theres guys who were like 2-30…now thats a slump…im not saying be ignorant to slumps etc its the way he goes about it

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on May 23, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dan gets on my nerves for other things...

Such as failing to judge fly balls to the outfield, getting on his maple bats soapbox every time one shatters, etc. But I would prefer an announcer that isn’t a raving homer for the team that employs him. Listen to Len Kasper, and he’ll make you think the world is coming to an end every time something doesn’t go the Cubs way.

by LukeMP1186 on May 23, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

i am not saying i want a homer

im all for dialog and the other side of things..i guess its limited sample size and his approach..i like the radio guys a ton more..

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on May 23, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I got you...

I’m not a big fan either. I know a lot of people dislike Joe Buck these days, but I really miss him doing the non-weekend home games on FSMW.

by LukeMP1186 on May 23, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

well its the way hes critical of his own team at times..

i guess the starting point was his railing of AP in the brewer series…when he wasnt flashy but did ok in the pitt series…then after that there were a few games that just were like eh…

its one thing to point out a slump, but they were basically going to a break…the slumping pujols comes up next he’s 0-2 today…after his first 2 abs he spent the whole ab on the slump…finally AL mentioned pressing and the loss of other guns..

guess maybe i watched a game or two when he was just kinda down…i cant stand the cowboy cause hes negative of other teams..

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on May 23, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Come back, Wayne Hagin

all is forgiven.

"Every epoch dreams its successor" - Jules Michelet

by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 23, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's one I can't do

I try to vote for Cardinals that are “on the fence”, but can’t vote for guys who don’t deserve it at all

gonna need more franklins to get through this one.

by hoofhearted-pujols on May 23, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

NL needs a few pitchers to hand the game to the AL late.

It’s just tradition. I think Franklin would do admirably.

by Ferociousaurus on May 23, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's usually a starter though

maybe we should push for piniero

gonna need more franklins to get through this one.

by hoofhearted-pujols on May 23, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

is gameday run by economists?

because i’m not so sure the pfx on that pitch was 7". looked more like 6" to me.

by Expatcardfan on May 23, 2009 2:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Kyle making the game a mere formality.

And I’m just fine with that.

"Every epoch dreams its successor" - Jules Michelet

by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 23, 2009 2:43 PM EDT reply actions  

seriously - Cornell vs. Virgina lacrosse?

this is what’s on tv? I wouldn’t even know where to start kicking

by Expatcardfan on May 23, 2009 2:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Can't go wrong with a puppy.

"Every epoch dreams its successor" - Jules Michelet

by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 23, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

puppy?

gonna need more franklins to get through this one.

by hoofhearted-pujols on May 23, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

i wanted to name our softball team from a few years ago "puppy dropkick"

got voted down. the best suggestions we had? either “babykillers”, or “Plan B Survivors”. I really liked “Plan B Survivors”

by Expatcardfan on May 23, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

As bad as it got last week

At least we didn’t have to watch Ponson don the birds on the bat.

by Kind_Al on May 23, 2009 2:47 PM EDT reply actions  

little known fact

Ponson’s middle name is FAIL

by nota bene on May 23, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

He just needs a second chance to prove himself, I think.

Oh wait, sorry, I thought it was 2004 there for a minute.

by Kind_Al on May 23, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Next Friday

at San Francisco…

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on May 23, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

i can't wait

we really need his bat in the lineup.

Passion Pit, F*** Yeah!

by Cuttah on May 23, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Speaking of

No Tim Lincecum for the Cards for that series. So we miss both Greinke and Lincecum. Nice.

"Every epoch dreams its successor" - Jules Michelet

by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 23, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tudors Fan, just read your profile

and I agree – I can’t accept AL baseball as real baseball. I moved to KC the year they actually made a decent run, and as much as i loved having the town get behind a baseball team, when you actual game, it just didn’t seem right.

on the other hand, watching the Nationals right now doesn’t really seem like watching baseball, either. FML if I end up in Boston and have to deal with the combination of fans and AL baseball. I swear the northeast doesn’t even know that NL baseball exists. New York and ESPN are aware that, as much as i hate them, the Mets still exist, right?

by Expatcardfan on May 23, 2009 2:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Call in a hunch

but I think ESPN is very aware of baseball in the northeast.

"Every epoch dreams its successor" - Jules Michelet

by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 23, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

its so weird how opinions get formed in your young years

when i started watching baseball as a youngster (mid to late 80’s), the Yankees never made the playoffs, and by 1989 the Red Sox were one of the worst teams ever. And no matter what they’ve done since, I still consider them crappy teams. On the other hand, I still can’t believe that the Angels are a pretty great franchise.

by Expatcardfan on May 23, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

similar story

when i went to my first non midwest baseball game(stros in h-town) my wife and i spent the whole time looking for polish sausage which they have at CHI=Sox and STL…in my mind a ball park had to have sausage craut and nachos supreme…

it doesnt seem right to have Brisket(stros, and i think rangers) or sushi(MS,SF)

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on May 23, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

the one thing the Nats did right here

Ben’s Chili Bowl is in the stadium. If you don’t know, look it up some time. But during the inauguration, the line was routinely around the block to get a half smoke. I sat in a bar across the street one of those nights, and just people watched. The “half smoke” should be more common.

I also heard that the Cal Ripken stadium north of Baltimore has a deal where you can watch a minor league game and smash crabs for the whole time. I need to try this.

by Expatcardfan on May 23, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stretch time!

Lohse cruising. Love it.

"Every epoch dreams its successor" - Jules Michelet

by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 23, 2009 2:56 PM EDT reply actions  

figured out the career journeyman

but i always kinda liked him

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on May 23, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like this defensive alignment

St. Louis Cardinals... defying win expectancy since 2008

by vivaelpujols on May 23, 2009 2:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Ya got a lead, try to hold it!

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on May 23, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dirt on one of the FSMW cameras

keeps making me think my TV is dirty

Passion Pit, F*** Yeah!

by Cuttah on May 23, 2009 3:04 PM EDT reply actions  

I thought I was the only one noticing...

It’s been on there for over a week. Someone clean the damn thing…

by LukeMP1186 on May 23, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lets go Colby

Try not to ground out meekly or strike out this at bat

Passion Pit, F*** Yeah!

by Cuttah on May 23, 2009 3:05 PM EDT reply actions  

well...you grounded out meekly

but it took a good play, and you got a run in

Passion Pit, F*** Yeah!

by Cuttah on May 23, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gotta disagree

that was a weak ground ball

Passion Pit, F*** Yeah!

by Cuttah on May 23, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

with colbys speed

i doubt a week ground ball would make be fielded in the OF and have enough time to get him out.

But hey, think what you want.

by TheBirds on May 23, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

it was a weak ground ball

but hey, think what you want

Passion Pit, F*** Yeah!

by Cuttah on May 23, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

it was still a rbi

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on May 23, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tastes like...

chicken.

"Every epoch dreams its successor" - Jules Michelet

by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 23, 2009 3:06 PM EDT reply actions  

it seems to be working though

at least the last 2 games

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on May 23, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes

but pitching coaches obviously keep note of that. And pick off attempts don’t, but the coach will take those into account as well

gonna need more franklins to get through this one.

by hoofhearted-pujols on May 23, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's what i figured

i mean, if you know things and are paying attention and are getting paid to do so, you wouldn’t count those 4 – 8 pitches or so. its amazing how smart people get when paychecks are involved.

by Expatcardfan on May 23, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gotta find

a place to play him… that 23% body fat he showed up with in ST didn’t make a good impression on the front office…

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on May 23, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Man, Carlos Lee is WAY fatter than that

We won’t even talk about some of those other guys that played for the Cardinals in the recent past.

by rencelas on May 23, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not now...

But I would look at it seriously if we find out Glaus isn’t coming back (likely IMO) and he’s still raking in AAA.

by LukeMP1186 on May 23, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

12 for 22 sounds really good, but he could just be on a hot streak right now

4B - beer baseball bands blog
"OOHHHHH!!!! He knocked out the I in Big Mac Land!!"

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 23, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

still dont agree calling the guy up on a knee jerk reaction

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on May 23, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't really understand...

I said wait to see if Glaus is going to come back after his “re-evaluation”, and if he isn’t coming back and Wallace is still hitting well, bring him up then. I think Chitown was agreeing with that. I don’t see how it would be a kneejerk promotion in that scenario, especially considering they aren’t even looking at Glaus until late June or July sometime…

by LukeMP1186 on May 23, 2009 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rooney and Horton have ZERO chemistry.

How can we reanimate Jack?

"Every epoch dreams its successor" - Jules Michelet

by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 23, 2009 3:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Klatu Verata ... N[cough]-tu

Army of Darkness – guilty pleasure

I’m Bad-Ash, and you’re Good-Ash.
Yeah, but I’m the one with the gun. [splat!]

It’s kinda interesting that Sam Raimi (Spiderman) is going back to his roots with a new horror film. I don’t usually dig horror stuff, but I liked Evil Dead, plus the screwball Evil Dead 2 & AoD, so I might actually watch his new one. Maybe when it comes out on DVD or cable.

Don't argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. - anon.

by Solanus on May 23, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

my old roommate continues to absolutely kill me with texts this week

he’s on vacation in Hawai’i for 2 weeks with his fiancee, and her family. The non sequitors that make my phone ping every 4 hours are classic.

by Expatcardfan on May 23, 2009 3:15 PM EDT reply actions  

KKKKKK

98 pitches thru 8 for Lohse—he’s up 4th in the bottom of the 8th….I think TLR’s gonna lift him….might see Boyer for the 9th…..

by nota bene on May 23, 2009 3:15 PM EDT reply actions  

didn't use Perez yesterday, so maybe

I think Boyer can pitch to Butler & Guillen with a 4 run lead….maybe bring in Reyes for Teahen….Boyer hasn’t pitched in a bit

by nota bene on May 23, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Al is saying that Brendan Ryan loves caffeine

does this mean he’s on a PED?

4B - beer baseball bands blog
"OOHHHHH!!!! He knocked out the I in Big Mac Land!!"

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 23, 2009 3:17 PM EDT reply actions  

double

I’ll take that as a yes

4B - beer baseball bands blog
"OOHHHHH!!!! He knocked out the I in Big Mac Land!!"

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 23, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

boooooooooooooooog

gonna need more franklins to get through this one.

by hoofhearted-pujols on May 23, 2009 3:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Did you know a grand slam could tie it?

Theoretically, but it ain’t friggin likely. 99% WE

by rencelas on May 23, 2009 3:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice, steady rise to the top.

Sounds about right. Today has been a cool, quiet ass-whupping.

"Every epoch dreams its successor" - Jules Michelet

by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 23, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love the small ball.

"Rasmus doesn't hit lefties. Instead he bashes them over the head with their own bleeding arm he just raced to the mound to rip off before the ball arrives to the plate. He then smashes that baseball with the pitchers bloody arm over the wall because he does not hit lefites he bashes them." Ted Lilly

by Red Blazer on May 23, 2009 3:20 PM EDT reply actions  

I love it that

our bit players like Barden, Stavi, Ryan, TG are getting hits all of a sudden…..that horrible stretch against CIN/PIT/MIL, nobody was hitting…..

by nota bene on May 23, 2009 3:21 PM EDT reply actions  

come on Barden

how bout a little bingo

gonna need more franklins to get through this one.

by hoofhearted-pujols on May 23, 2009 3:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Fear the Squeeze!

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on May 23, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Horton was just asking

have we even tried a squeeze this year so far?

by nota bene on May 23, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

letting him bat

good Tony

gonna need more franklins to get through this one.

by hoofhearted-pujols on May 23, 2009 3:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Lohse batting for himself

interesting…

Passion Pit, F*** Yeah!

by Cuttah on May 23, 2009 3:22 PM EDT reply actions  

the ever unpredictable La Russa

I guess we’re up four runs, might as well let him try to finish it….I bet the squeeze is on now though

by nota bene on May 23, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

ouch

gonna need more franklins to get through this one.

by hoofhearted-pujols on May 23, 2009 3:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Ouch

I don’t think Lohse is all too happy, of course – neither am I

Welcome to Baseball Heaven.

by zoomzoomj88 on May 23, 2009 3:24 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah

he looked really pissed

4B - beer baseball bands blog
"OOHHHHH!!!! He knocked out the I in Big Mac Land!!"

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 23, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

lame!

4B - beer baseball bands blog
"OOHHHHH!!!! He knocked out the I in Big Mac Land!!"

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 23, 2009 3:24 PM EDT reply actions  

well

that just makes for a REAL interesting Sunday of baseball

gonna need more franklins to get through this one.

by hoofhearted-pujols on May 23, 2009 3:24 PM EDT reply actions  

That was wrong...I am watching GD is Lohse okay? Where did he get hit?

"Rasmus doesn't hit lefties. Instead he bashes them over the head with their own bleeding arm he just raced to the mound to rip off before the ball arrives to the plate. He then smashes that baseball with the pitchers bloody arm over the wall because he does not hit lefites he bashes them." Ted Lilly

by Red Blazer on May 23, 2009 3:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Right arm, by the elbow

It’s a cause for concern, but I think he’ll be OK

Welcome to Baseball Heaven.

by zoomzoomj88 on May 23, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why do people keep hitting him in the throwing elbow? That pisses me off.

"Rasmus doesn't hit lefties. Instead he bashes them over the head with their own bleeding arm he just raced to the mound to rip off before the ball arrives to the plate. He then smashes that baseball with the pitchers bloody arm over the wall because he does not hit lefites he bashes them." Ted Lilly

by Red Blazer on May 23, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Elbow i think

or wrist, couldn’t really tell

Passion Pit, F*** Yeah!

by Cuttah on May 23, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

it looked like the inside of his right elbow

or maybe just below the elbow on the forearm. he looked more pissed off than anything else.

by nycbirdo on May 23, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Staying in the game;

looked like he got nicked on his right arm…

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on May 23, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

can't tell yet

It looks like he’ll be ok though crosses fingers

4B - beer baseball bands blog
"OOHHHHH!!!! He knocked out the I in Big Mac Land!!"

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 23, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

two guesses -

1) the zoo
2) jimmy texting him

by TNTinCO on May 23, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

ha

gonna need more franklins to get through this one.

by hoofhearted-pujols on May 23, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

He was actling like it was Lohs'e fault he got drilled, when...

a) It’s extremely hard to get out of the way when you’re squared to bunt.

b) Pitchers are taught to come up and in on someone trying to bunt, and Al of all people should know that.

by LukeMP1186 on May 23, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

are you referring to

when he said “that wasn’t that far inside”

4B - beer baseball bands blog
"OOHHHHH!!!! He knocked out the I in Big Mac Land!!"

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 23, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hope we score a few here

so that Billy Butler or Jose Guillen can receive a pitch in the back next inning

Passion Pit, F*** Yeah!

by Cuttah on May 23, 2009 3:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Perez is up in the bullpen

if you’re gonna lift him, might as well pinch run for him too

by nota bene on May 23, 2009 3:27 PM EDT reply actions  

precautionary measure likely

Lohse will go out there and warm up, if he looks okay, they’ll leave him in. If it hurts, they’ll pull him

Passion Pit, F*** Yeah!

by Cuttah on May 23, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lohse will probably be OK

The team would’ve taken him out already if they were really concerned.

Welcome to Baseball Heaven.

by zoomzoomj88 on May 23, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

if I was going to hit someone

i think perez would be the perfect guy to have do it

gonna need more franklins to get through this one.

by hoofhearted-pujols on May 23, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

okay. thats fine

gonna need more franklins to get through this one.

by hoofhearted-pujols on May 23, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

with LaRoche catching

just in case he tries to charge the mound

by Expatcardfan on May 23, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

just to clarify

LaRoche (both of them) play for Pittsburgh – so I don’t think either one will be much help.

by TNTinCO on May 23, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

just saying

if i were going to the plate, and I saw Motte and LaRoche coming into the game, i’d go into full-on dodgeball mode

by Expatcardfan on May 23, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

if you can dodge a wrench,

larue will just punch you in the face.

by nycbirdo on May 23, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

can we get a overflow?

getting some lag..

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on May 23, 2009 3:27 PM EDT reply actions  

GS for TG please.

"Rasmus doesn't hit lefties. Instead he bashes them over the head with their own bleeding arm he just raced to the mound to rip off before the ball arrives to the plate. He then smashes that baseball with the pitchers bloody arm over the wall because he does not hit lefites he bashes them." Ted Lilly

by Red Blazer on May 23, 2009 3:29 PM EDT reply actions  

That was nice.

One run in, still one out.

Welcome to Baseball Heaven.

by zoomzoomj88 on May 23, 2009 3:29 PM EDT reply actions  

YES

Awesome PA.

"Every epoch dreams its successor" - Jules Michelet

by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 23, 2009 3:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Has anyone else noticed?

But Tyler Greene is hitting better (and looks better at the plate) than Rasmus. Who’d have thought?

by DiscoJer on May 23, 2009 3:30 PM EDT reply actions  

not sure how he's better?

average I guess

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"OOHHHHH!!!! He knocked out the I in Big Mac Land!!"

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 23, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

serious.

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 23, 2009 3:30 PM EDT reply actions  

He was drafted higher right?

"Rasmus doesn't hit lefties. Instead he bashes them over the head with their own bleeding arm he just raced to the mound to rip off before the ball arrives to the plate. He then smashes that baseball with the pitchers bloody arm over the wall because he does not hit lefites he bashes them." Ted Lilly

by Red Blazer on May 23, 2009 3:30 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm "reply button" challenged.

"Rasmus doesn't hit lefties. Instead he bashes them over the head with their own bleeding arm he just raced to the mound to rip off before the ball arrives to the plate. He then smashes that baseball with the pitchers bloody arm over the wall because he does not hit lefites he bashes them." Ted Lilly

by Red Blazer on May 23, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pharmaceutical companies

If there is money to be made by feeding off of another insecurity, you can bet some drug company will have a pill for you.

Don't argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. - anon.

by Solanus on May 23, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

no PED's in VEB nation

i want a clean program, dammit
/does not consider Franklins to be a PED

by Expatcardfan on May 23, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

they're more like PCD

Performance Coping Drugs…

R.P.O.F.Y.M.

by BVHeck on May 23, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was his first walk...

of his career. The next will come in August,

by guayzimi on May 23, 2009 3:32 PM EDT reply actions  

How many pitches before the pull Mahay?

"Rasmus doesn't hit lefties. Instead he bashes them over the head with their own bleeding arm he just raced to the mound to rip off before the ball arrives to the plate. He then smashes that baseball with the pitchers bloody arm over the wall because he does not hit lefites he bashes them." Ted Lilly

by Red Blazer on May 23, 2009 3:33 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm honestly surprised

that the Royals haven’t pulled him yet

Welcome to Baseball Heaven.

by zoomzoomj88 on May 23, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

lots of lefties up

Rasmus will be his last batter, one way or another

Passion Pit, F*** Yeah!

by Cuttah on May 23, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I read that as

How many pitchers hit before they pull Mahay

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 23, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would like to request that those of you

who comment with any degree of frequency get pictures for your profile. Even if you have the avatars shut off for your viewing, it’s a lot easier to identify commenters by picture when there are a lot of comments to shuffle through.

Thank you for your time.

PS — I love Razzums.

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by azruavatar on May 23, 2009 3:34 PM EDT reply actions  

I'd like to second that emotion (in a robotic, non-emotional kind of way)

Angry robots are scary but pictures generally are good, and very helpful when you’re in a rush and/or inebriated.

PS – I also love Razzums, but I’d love him more if he’d break out of this little slump and have another spurt of two-run homers.

PPS – If a situation ever presented itself where my wife could leave me for Yadi, I think she probably would.

by BTown Birds fan on May 23, 2009 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Colby walk?

I wouldn’t mind seeing Pujols come up with the bases loaded.

Welcome to Baseball Heaven.

by zoomzoomj88 on May 23, 2009 3:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Rasmus misses a meatball

kid is in an incredible slump

Passion Pit, F*** Yeah!

by Cuttah on May 23, 2009 3:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Your very negative

toward Raz today

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring" -Rogers Hornsby

by stlwcards on May 23, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's been absolutely abysmal offensively

luckily his defense has been great.

Passion Pit, F*** Yeah!

by Cuttah on May 23, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hes in a slump

but you got to expect that in a rookie at times. He has shown he can hit just needs time to get used to Major League pitching

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring" -Rogers Hornsby

by stlwcards on May 23, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

He is in a slump

but it’s not that he needs to get used to major league pitching, he needs to fix his approach (in my opinion). He is trying to pull everything.

Passion Pit, F*** Yeah!

by Cuttah on May 23, 2009 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

My comment about Greene wasn’t so much praising Greene, but a comment about how bad Rasmus has been.

2 Walks this month! I don’t think he’s slumping, he’s simply abandoned his normal hitting style and is swing as hard as he can at everything.

by DiscoJer on May 23, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

A 45-pitch inning

and we can muster only 1-run. Guess everyone will have to pay full price for fountain drinks tomorrow.

"Every epoch dreams its successor" - Jules Michelet

by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 23, 2009 3:36 PM EDT reply actions  

That sucked. Pujols must be happy.

"Rasmus doesn't hit lefties. Instead he bashes them over the head with their own bleeding arm he just raced to the mound to rip off before the ball arrives to the plate. He then smashes that baseball with the pitchers bloody arm over the wall because he does not hit lefites he bashes them." Ted Lilly

by Red Blazer on May 23, 2009 3:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Well that was a missed oppurtunity...

but now we can win 5-0 again for symmetry’s sake…

by LukeMP1186 on May 23, 2009 3:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Lohse is done

kinda concerning

Passion Pit, F*** Yeah!

by Cuttah on May 23, 2009 3:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Someone should ask Tony

if he’s going to monitor it.

"Every epoch dreams its successor" - Jules Michelet

by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 23, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Would have been nice to see Al get to hit without getting pitched around.

"Rasmus doesn't hit lefties. Instead he bashes them over the head with their own bleeding arm he just raced to the mound to rip off before the ball arrives to the plate. He then smashes that baseball with the pitchers bloody arm over the wall because he does not hit lefites he bashes them." Ted Lilly

by Red Blazer on May 23, 2009 3:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Boog is hilarious

trying to bare hand that

Passion Pit, F*** Yeah!

by Cuttah on May 23, 2009 3:39 PM EDT reply actions  

crazy B Ryan

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 23, 2009 3:40 PM EDT reply actions  

KK

Testicle-exploding shit storm, circa 7/12/08 - We will never forget!

by dan on May 23, 2009 3:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Anyone know how Lohse is doing?

Any injury/pain or anything?

Welcome to Baseball Heaven.

by zoomzoomj88 on May 23, 2009 3:43 PM EDT reply actions  

he's probably fine now

they’ll have to check on him tomorrow though

by nota bene on May 23, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

not gonna lie

middle infield of Greene, T and Ryan, B looks pretty good to me

by Expatcardfan on May 23, 2009 3:43 PM EDT reply actions  

+1

I could get use to those two. If the bats come around to league avg. I would be very happy. Throw in some steals and that would be a good tandem.

"Rasmus doesn't hit lefties. Instead he bashes them over the head with their own bleeding arm he just raced to the mound to rip off before the ball arrives to the plate. He then smashes that baseball with the pitchers bloody arm over the wall because he does not hit lefites he bashes them." Ted Lilly

by Red Blazer on May 23, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

league average

I would jump for joy if we can get replacement level offense from our middle infield….

by nota bene on May 23, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Confusion

Don’t confuse league average with replacement level – they aren’t the same thing.

Don't argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. - anon.

by Solanus on May 24, 2009 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Chris Perez ends it!

damn, this team is fun to watch right now, go for the sweep!!!!

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"OOHHHHH!!!! He knocked out the I in Big Mac Land!!"

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 23, 2009 3:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Winner!

Passion Pit, F*** Yeah!

by Cuttah on May 23, 2009 3:44 PM EDT reply actions  

.500 for the month of may

chance at 10 games over .500 for the season tomorrow. good work boys.

by nycbirdo on May 23, 2009 3:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Winner!

Welcome to Baseball Heaven.

by zoomzoomj88 on May 23, 2009 3:44 PM EDT reply actions  

5 in a row

2 shutouts in a row!!!! Hell YEAH!!

We’ve got a long way to go and a short time to get there.

by KYCards on May 23, 2009 3:44 PM EDT reply actions  

scary thing is

we were a couple of pitches away from 5 Shutouts in a row

Passion Pit, F*** Yeah!

by Cuttah on May 23, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

5 Games - 2 ER against

unreal

Passion Pit, F*** Yeah!

by Cuttah on May 23, 2009 3:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Phenomenal starts all the way through the rotation.

Fantastic turnaround.

"Every epoch dreams its successor" - Jules Michelet

by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 23, 2009 3:45 PM EDT reply actions  

At his age, half his breakfast consumption is probably pills

I’ve seen my Mom’s handful of drugs she takes in the morning & it wouldn’t surprise me if Dave was much the same.

Don't argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. - anon.

by Solanus on May 23, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

not such a bad thing

makes you feel like Elvis every morning

by Expatcardfan on May 23, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

no kidding

they looked like dogshit the last turn, this turn they’re unhittable

by nota bene on May 23, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's almost crazy

but I’m looking forward to seeing what Jo-El will deal up tomorrow

by TNTinCO on May 23, 2009 3:45 PM EDT reply actions  

definitely crazy

imagine if this team can get into the playoffs with a healthy lineup and the rotation goes fucking apeshit like this………

by nota bene on May 23, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

you're thinking of 2006

Space.

It's a problem we face.

So we never go anywhere.

We just stay in one place.

by hazel on May 23, 2009 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

It figures

Our starting pitching goes to complete shit, and all of a sudden all go 7IP+,<1ER in 5 games straight.

I may never understand baseball.

by cloistermaximus on May 23, 2009 3:47 PM EDT reply actions  

After 2006

I just decided to stop trying to figure things out and go along for the ride.

"Every epoch dreams its successor" - Jules Michelet

by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 23, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

don't try

it hurts.

but really, watching the Cubs struggle without Ramirez, and our recent offensive woes without Luddy and Ank, really makes me start to appreciate how much of a difference a bat or two makes in a lineup.

by Expatcardfan on May 23, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

and how much of a difference

starting pitching makes

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"OOHHHHH!!!! He knocked out the I in Big Mac Land!!"

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 23, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lost the 1st 3 of the homestand

and are still going to have a winning record for this 9 game stint. Good stuff

gonna need more franklins to get through this one.

by hoofhearted-pujols on May 23, 2009 3:50 PM EDT reply actions  

We don't need Peavy if this keeps ....knock on wood.

"Rasmus doesn't hit lefties. Instead he bashes them over the head with their own bleeding arm he just raced to the mound to rip off before the ball arrives to the plate. He then smashes that baseball with the pitchers bloody arm over the wall because he does not hit lefites he bashes them." Ted Lilly

by Red Blazer on May 23, 2009 3:52 PM EDT reply actions  

2 runs allowed

in the last 45 innings for cardinal pitching

stellar

by prophetjohn on May 23, 2009 3:52 PM EDT reply actions  

OTOH

We should be a little realistic – they were teams with terrible/slumping offenses.

That said, it’s still pretty impressive.

by DiscoJer on May 23, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

lots of teams play slumping offenses

doesn’t mean they only give up 2 in 45.

by TheBirds on May 23, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

true

the Royals have a bad offense. The Cubs have a slumping offense. But 2 runs in five games? C’mon…..

Eventually they’ll regress again—they were up in April, down for the beginning of May and now they’re up again…..

by nota bene on May 23, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

they already did it once

and we didn’t get buried…..plus we have Carp back!

speaking of which Carp, Waino, & the Colonel will face Milwaukee…..I think we’re going to be a hell of a lot tougher on them this series

by nota bene on May 23, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

lalalalalalala

not listening.

Baseball is so much more fun if you force yourself to not believe in regr….

almost slipped up there.

by TheBirds on May 23, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let's hope, oh let's hope.

Not walking everyone and their brother should help.

by Kind_Al on May 23, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's the best 5-game performance by the Cards

since 1973. I’ll take it.

"Every epoch dreams its successor" - Jules Michelet

by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 23, 2009 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

ha!

Good one, TLR. On stealing bases. “[Albert] does have a running contest going on with Yadi.”

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 23, 2009 4:02 PM EDT reply actions  

nice

gonna need more franklins to get through this one.

by hoofhearted-pujols on May 23, 2009 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

factoid:

Lohse/Perez did not allow a runner to make it past 2nd base

HOT DAMN

by nota bene on May 23, 2009 4:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Reminds me of high school.

Except I like not allowing anything beyond 2nd base in my pitching far more than in my girlfriends.

by Kind_Al on May 23, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Interesting Stat

Through Monday we had given up the most runs in the central

As of right now we have given up the least runs in the central and there are only 2 teams in all of baseball to have given up less runs than us!!

what a difference a week makes

gonna need more franklins to get through this one.

by hoofhearted-pujols on May 23, 2009 4:05 PM EDT reply actions  

this stat completes my life

Space.

It's a problem we face.

So we never go anywhere.

We just stay in one place.

by hazel on May 23, 2009 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

well

before the brewers series, i said i’d be happy if we went 6-3 over the next three series…after the brewers series i said i’d be happy if we went 4-5….now i’m back to 6-3

by VolsnCards5 on May 23, 2009 4:10 PM EDT reply actions  

P.S.

if the Twins can stomp the Brewers again, we’ll be tied for first…..

by nota bene on May 23, 2009 4:10 PM EDT reply actions  

If you dig the longball

Phillies v Yanks on Fox, I missed a lot of the Cards game, hopefully this makes up for it.

by TheBirds on May 23, 2009 4:12 PM EDT reply actions  

per azru's request upthread

I don’t think anybody has this as their avatar yet>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

by nota bene on May 23, 2009 4:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Eck is a tiny guy

I’m pretty sure his BAC exceeded his OBP after that.

by TheBirds on May 23, 2009 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Another interesting stat

Hochevar gives up 4 runs in 6.1 innings, and his ERA drops over 6 points.

There was Gibson in the Reds' dugout, visibly manhandling about three Reds and tossing them bodily out of the dugout and onto the field...He was the toughest athlete mentally I ever saw, and the greatest competitor. JACK BUCK

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on May 23, 2009 5:15 PM EDT reply actions  

indeed

I especially liked the Harry Caray bit, and of course the responses about the shirt untucking.

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on May 23, 2009 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was essentially

He doesnt want to call it unprofessional…but “it doesnt go unnoticed.”

by brindled on May 23, 2009 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

i hate that mlb doesn't internet the postgame stuff

so i can’t see that interview… also hate that I let someone steal brendan ryan’s B-R page. That would have been a great quote, instead of an ad for a web site.

An excellent web site, but still.

- "I went at it and didn’t slow down, so it kind of bounced off me." -Lil' Dunc

by SleepyCA on May 24, 2009 4:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Anthony Reyes watch

this from Rotoworld:

Indians placed RHP Anthony Reyes on the 15-day disabled list with an inflamed right elbow.

He left Friday night’s game after just three innings with the injury. Reyes is 1-1 with a 6.57 ERA in eight starts this season.

There was Gibson in the Reds' dugout, visibly manhandling about three Reds and tossing them bodily out of the dugout and onto the field...He was the toughest athlete mentally I ever saw, and the greatest competitor. JACK BUCK

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on May 23, 2009 5:18 PM EDT reply actions  

we don't need to continue to do this, do we?

- "I went at it and didn’t slow down, so it kind of bounced off me." -Lil' Dunc

by SleepyCA on May 24, 2009 4:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yet another interesting stat

A-Rod, prior to today’s game, had a .200 BA, and 1.012 OPS. Going 9-45 with 6 HRs will do that, I guess.

There was Gibson in the Reds' dugout, visibly manhandling about three Reds and tossing them bodily out of the dugout and onto the field...He was the toughest athlete mentally I ever saw, and the greatest competitor. JACK BUCK

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on May 23, 2009 5:23 PM EDT reply actions  

A-Rod just hit a pop up to right field...

that found the seats and tied the game at 4 with the Phillies in the 9th. Maybe the cheapest home run I’ve seen all year. They REALLY need to do something about that shiny new bandbox…

by LukeMP1186 on May 23, 2009 6:44 PM EDT reply actions  

I missed a hell of a game. Came in at 1:00 a.m. - game time here and was going to catch the game after . . . . . .

a brief sojourn of sobriety .. . Getting another shutout works as well. What’s the latest on Lohse?

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

HL Mencken

by akaitori on May 23, 2009 6:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Royals treatment

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/182184-dear-cardinal-fans-a-letter-from-a-royals-fan

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 23, 2009 7:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Hmm.

1) You’ll typically find more jerks in Busch III than you would have in Busch II. Not sure why.

2) No. But you gotta admit that it’s a great trash-talking point.

3) Of course not.

4) Oh hell yeah. And we get it right back in Wrigley, trust me.

I have a hard time buying this “poor Royals fan” routine, since I’ve experienced firsthand the general prickishness of Royals’ fans when attending games in KC. You’ll probably get inhospitable fans everywhere. Deal with it.

"Every epoch dreams its successor" - Jules Michelet

by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 23, 2009 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

It struck me as odd.

BII vs BIII is an interesting thought too. I wonder if there’s a correlation between ticket prices and the civility of the customer. (Everyone in the stadium can see how often the security guy in the bullpen has to quell some expletive-spewing fan. Then again, see: Performance, Bullpen.) But that way lies more internet drama about who’s a true fan and who’s not, so I’ll let sleeping birdos lie.

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 23, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

every team has moron fans who do that shiz

what a worthless blog post by that guy.

Passion Pit, F*** Yeah!

by Cuttah on May 23, 2009 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Someone call the whambulance

You’re at a baseball game and a fan of another team heckles you. And? Did they throw a punch? Why can’t anyone take a good heckle anymore?

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by azruavatar on May 24, 2009 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

it's not cool to do it

and heckling royals fans is like heckling special olympics competitors. Double not cool.

- "I went at it and didn’t slow down, so it kind of bounced off me." -Lil' Dunc

by SleepyCA on May 24, 2009 4:08 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

well said sir.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Gibson

by davethebutcher on May 24, 2009 5:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

I guess I'm cut from a different (metallic) cloth.

I don’t mind in the least to get some good ribbing from the opposition. There was a Phillies fan at the game the night that Rick Ankiel ate the wall and we went back and forth the whole game. I thought it was great.

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by azruavatar on May 24, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

+1

Last time I was at Wrigley, my buddies and I got into it with a couple of Cubs fans who were trying to heckle Cards fans. We completely owned them—had everyone around us, even Cubs fans, cracking up and the hecklers shut up when they saw we had won and actually got the crowd on our side. After the game, two different sets of unaffiliated fans came up (one from Philly and one from Boston—both were catching a game at Wrigley for the first time) came up and shook our hands—said it was the funniest thing they’d heard in a long time and one of their best experiences at a ballgame. And I’ll add that we even managed to keep it pretty clean because there were kids around us.

by mattyp on May 24, 2009 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

geez

If I couldn’t heckle Cubs fans, I am not sure life we be worth living.

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on May 24, 2009 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whether you like Dan and Al or not...

and I guess you could put me slightly towards the “don’t like” end of the spectrum, it’s interesting to listen to broadcast pairings for other teams and compare. There’s a lot of bad ones, which makes you appreciate what we have a little bit. But there’s some really good ones, and the Mets’ guys on SNY are the best in my opinion. Their feed is on MLB Network right now, and I really enjoy the three man booth with the play-by-play guy (whose name I don’t know), Gary Darling, and Keith Hernandez. I like the play-by play a lot, and having two former players allows for better discussions and fewer ramblings by one slightly insane former pitcher. I’m not sure what prompted me to share, but I did. So get over it…

by LukeMP1186 on May 23, 2009 9:27 PM EDT reply actions  

It's safe to say

if you grew up with Jack and Mike, you’ll be complaining about broadcasters for the rest of your life. I’ve accepted that and regard my idle whining about broadcasters as if I were tasting fine wines. Only with more spitting.

"Every epoch dreams its successor" - Jules Michelet

by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 23, 2009 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

SNY's PBP trio

is unbelievable. We’d be blessed to have a group like them. They aren’t perfect but they are the best I’ve come across of modern announcing teams.

by Hardcore Legend on May 24, 2009 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

When the Cards

play the Mets, I watch the Mets broadcast for just this reason.

"If I prepare myself, my stuff is good and I'm going to get outs. That is a fact." - Chris Carpenter

by spants on May 24, 2009 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Go twinkies. They are the staple of Ryans diet. How else do you think he covers that much ground?

"Rasmus doesn't hit lefties. Instead he bashes them over the head with their own bleeding arm he just raced to the mound to rip off before the ball arrives to the plate. He then smashes that baseball with the pitchers bloody arm over the wall because he does not hit lefites he bashes them." Ted Lilly

by Red Blazer on May 23, 2009 11:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Apropos of nothing,

Why the fuck do we still have an unbalanced divisional makeup with six teams in the NL Central and four in the AL West? StupidStupidStupid. I’ve come to accept the Brewers as an NL team, but I’m still completely baffled about why the big shake-up couldn’t have been done with equal divisions.

by BTown Birds fan on May 24, 2009 12:02 AM EDT reply actions  

Well...

You couldn’t have 15 teams in each league without being forced to have at least one interleague matchup going on throughout the entire season. So you need an even amount of teams in each league.

The only way to really balance everything out would be to add 2 franchises to the AL, giving you 16 teams and 4 divisions with 4 teams apiece per league. Like the NFL. But that isn’t happening anytime soon…

by LukeMP1186 on May 24, 2009 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

so i guess that would look something like...

NL East – New York, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Washington
NL South – Atlanta, Florida, Houston, Cincinnati
NL North – St. Louis, Chicago, Milwaukee, Colorado
NL West – Los Angeles, Arizona, San Diego, San Francisco

AL East – New York, Boston, Toronto, Baltimore
AL South – Tampa Bay, Texas, Cleveland, ?
AL North – Chicago, Detroit, Minnesota, Kansas City
AL West – Los Angeles, Oakland, Seattle, ?

I don’t like it.

by adiueordie on May 24, 2009 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's about what it would look like...

I may swap Cleveland and Kansas City, but that’s about what it would look like I’d think. You’d have to figure Portland would be the most likely city to get one of the two franchises, but who knows on the other. New Orleans? Las Vegas? The new St. Louis Browns? Kidding of course…

by LukeMP1186 on May 24, 2009 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

austin!

largest city in the us without a pro sports team

by prophetjohn on May 24, 2009 1:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Excellent!

They’d fit perfectly in the hotly-contested AL South!

by LukeMP1186 on May 24, 2009 1:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

New York....

They need one more team, I think. Maybe two. They used to have the Dodgers, Giants and Yankees, so it’s not like it’s that far fetched, either.

But anyway, they’ve got close to 20 million people in the metro area. Two teams is nowhere near enough, IMHO for a market that size. That’s why the Yankees (and Mets) have so much money compared to other teams. It’s probably a like a 75%/25% split, Yankees/Mets, but a team could make some inroads if marketed right.

Putting the other one in the Boston Area would also help (another huge metroplex, but only one team). Like Arkham, or maybe Innsmouth.

by DiscoJer on May 24, 2009 6:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Las Vegas

They keep tossing that around. I keep fearing it’ll be real.

I do kind of like it. I bet Pitts and Wash would appreciate someone in their weight class. Hmmm.

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 24, 2009 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

The great thing about it, though...

You could play 18 games with each team in your division (18 × 3 = 54 games), and 9 games with everyone else (9 × 12 = 108 games), and you’d have a nice, neat, fair schedule. Of course that would also require ditching interleague play. But even if you didn’t, you could reduce it to 16 games per team in your division, and free up 6 games for interleague play. Of course that would be slightly less fair, but much more fair than what we have now. HOWEVA, this all seems about as likely as the Cubs winning a World Series…

by LukeMP1186 on May 24, 2009 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

One more thought (because this imaginary world fascinates me)...

Simply sending the Astros to the AL West could work. Look at it like this:

60 games = 15 games each with the other 4 teams in your division
90 games = 9 games each with the 10 teams in other divisions
12 interleague games

Simple math then leaves you with a 162 game schedule. Now, you would always have to have an interleague series going on. If each team plays 12 interleague games, there are a total of 180 interleague games league-wide. So if those were all played on consecutive days, you’d have enough games for 180 days, which is right at 6 months. Factoring in the All Star break and whatnot, a few of those series would have to be going on at the same time as to not extend the length of the season. That doesn’t pose a problem at all, though. So I think the numbers work and it’s much more realistic than expansion.

Of course all of this makes much too much sense for it to be implemented with this commissioner. That is unless my math is incorrect and it actually doesn’t make sense, in which case I’m an idiot…

by LukeMP1186 on May 24, 2009 2:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

travel costs, too

Even saving a little money traveling within your division might make a difference in operating budgets.

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 24, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

How nice to hear the Cubs' announcers wail the blues about their miserable team

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by akaitori on May 24, 2009 12:52 AM EDT reply actions  

ha yeah

and the cubs looked so disheartened after the game. it’s almost sad, but then i think about how big their payroll is and i’m content to feel nice and smug about it

by prophetjohn on May 24, 2009 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Where are the Cubs' fans now - recall how many were sailing in their Gloat Boat at the start of the season

 . . . so sad. . . not

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

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by akaitori on May 24, 2009 1:04 AM EDT reply actions  

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