MLB Postponement Rule
I'm still really pissed off about Friday's game in Milwaukee. I know we could have lost just as easily as won, but nothing irks me more than the MLB postponement rule.
I really think the MLB needs to rethink it’s postponement rule. Regardless of my still being mad about yesterday, I’ve always felt this way -- win or lose. It should be like little league and high school (I chose not to play college, so I’m not sure the rules there) where if it’s before 5 innings, you simply pick up and finish as part of a double-header the next time the teams meet.
I don’t understand why it’s not like that, and I think it’s unfair for players (like Rasmus) who maybe have an important personal success on a day and then it gets swiped away. Say Yadi miraculously steals a base -- he deserves to be credited for that stolen base. It's silly how the current rules work. How in any way does erasing what's already been played make more sense than continuing another day. The fans who had tickets can still come back for the second game, just like the current voucher system. Pitching rotations already get thrown out of whack as it is, so that doesn't change anything either. The only difference is that when you play that double-header, you resume play in the third inning opposed to the first inning.
Another issue with the current system is that it must affect the emotions of players during a game where it looks like it will be postponed. Even if they won't admit it, if it starts to rain in the first inning, I'm sure their effort will be less. But if they know that every out will carry over, they will play the same way as a typical game. It's a small mentality thing, but it seems worth noting.
I don't know -- how do you guys feel?
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dream on
I agree with you, but what you propose will happen about the same time they start calling walking in the NBA.
Stat wise… I don’t remember the particulars or if the rules have changed… I know there are occasions where stats DO count even if the game is re-played in its entirety. Probably this is only tie games that went five innings or more, not sure.
I think you make a good case and I’d like to see it happen.
by the Tewk on May 16, 2009 11:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Tie games
For many years, there used to be, on occasions, tie games, where the game was halted for some reason or another (such as local curfew), and the game was replayed in it’s entirety, but the stats DID count, and the final standings noted that the following teams were involved in tie games. However, I think that rule was changed a few years ago and every game that starts either ends up in a decision (either same day or some later date) or gets washed out (such as Friday’s game).
by tbell61 on May 20, 2009 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think you should direct your anger at the Cards
they had the option of delaying the start, and went ahead & started the game knowing full well they could not get 5 innings in. so, like we’ve seen on the field too many times this season, they screwed themselves.
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by gdm426 on May 17, 2009 12:12 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
well, in that case sure.
but it’s not always the ballpark’s fault. again, I get angry basically every time this happens; it’s not just a result of this past game.
On with the (good) youth movement!
by aet15 on May 17, 2009 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is a stupid rule
but no more unfair and stupid as the way baseball rules the winning and losing pitcher for a game by just "stipulating the pitcher that is in the game when the run that proves to be the winning run is ruled the winner.
Or for that matter the overtime rule in the NFL where the 1st team to score is the winner. Often the game is not really decided on the field of play but by a coin toss where the winner of the toss drives down the 35 yards and then a field goal is kicked the other team goes home without any chance to score. The college rule makes lot more sense.
I don’t know if this is true, but I remember hearing the story that back in the 60’s a minor league pitcher won a game without making a pitch. The circumstances were this: the team batting scored the go ahead run in the top of the 9th with 2 out on a single to right field with the runner on second scoring. The manager went to the mound and changed pitchers. The new pitcher came to the mound, signaled the third baseman to the bag threw him the ball, the third baseman tagged the bag and the new pitcher appealed to the umpire that the runner missed third base on scoring and the runner was ruled out. Then the other team scored in the bottom of the ninth and the pitcher was ruled the winner.
I don’t know if this was true or not but I remember hearing about it and it supposedly caused a rule change. I think it was Mike Shannon I heard tell this.
by ridgesee on May 17, 2009 12:35 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If you just forced the team to score a toucdown,
or at least required a win by six points or more, the NFL rule would make more sense, i think.
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by Valatan on May 17, 2009 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It happened to BJ Ryan in 2003.
"I didn't realize his velocity was that high," said Macha, noting that radar readings aren't flashed during exhibition games.
by battlekow on May 17, 2009 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm glad you posted that link on BJ Ryan
thought someone would come along and call me a liar and I knew I had heard about happening. Didn’t know it had happened in majors though.
by ridgesee on May 17, 2009 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sean Marshall
won two days ago on three pitches. If Cub fans point to his W-L record to prove how good he is, remember to point that one out.
But at least with pitchers, a win doesn’t determine who makes the postseason. A postponed / erased game does.
On with the (good) youth movement!
by aet15 on May 18, 2009 3:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"I know we could have lost just as easily as won"
Actually, someone posted a win expectancy graph in the thread for that game, and we were around 75% WE when the tarps came out. Therefore, we were actually three times more likely to win than lose in that situation.
/nitpicking
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by jd is legend on May 17, 2009 1:19 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ah, lovely
On with the (good) youth movement!
by aet15 on May 17, 2009 2:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
WE does not take the specific players into account
"I didn't realize his velocity was that high," said Macha, noting that radar readings aren't flashed during exhibition games.
by battlekow on May 17, 2009 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So?
It’s still usefull
St. Louis Cardinals... defying win expectancy since 2008
by vivaelpujols on May 17, 2009 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd rather carry over
I’ll take “the MLB needs to get a better postponing rule” for 500, alex.
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by zoomzoomj88 on May 17, 2009 10:06 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Screw it.
Monday’s a new day.
I’ll be there Monday like I was there Friday.
Maybe Rasmus will hit another one into the bullpen. Maybe I’m dreaming. Whatever.
I’ve learned that rules are rules until they’re changed. So I’ll stick with it until things change.
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by Donut King on May 17, 2009 10:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think it's a financial issue
what do you do with regards to tickets for the rest of the game? You have to reimburse any fans who went to the rainout, as they might not necessarily be free on the day that the other 7 innings are played. However, you can’t charge people full price for that game, as it’s not a full 9 innings. So you’d end up short on cash. I guess you could charge half-price or something but you’re still losing out as you’ve had to give full refunds to the fans who don’t come back.
Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.
by Felonius_Monk on May 18, 2009 4:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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