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Game 24 Open Thread: May 1, 2009

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St. Louis Cardinals at Washington Nationals, May 1, 2009 7:05 PM EDT


 

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1-2, 6.14 2-0, 2.38


there have been 9 players named "zimmerman" in major league history; the 2009 nationals have two of them. the guy pitching tonight, jordan zimmerman, is the second "jordan zimmerman" to reach the major leagues; the first one had a 7.88 career era in 8 games for the mariners in 1999.

j zim the 2nd was the 67th player drafted in the 2007 draft, chosen a few players in front of jess todd. quoting an old post from the Mound Talk blog:

Zimmerman boasts a good reportoire of pitches starting with his fastball. A true plus pitch, he works in the 91-93 range consistently. He has good heavy sinking motion on his fastball and will attack hitters on the lower half of the plate with it.

Zimmerman threw a good slider with sharp, late bite to it in college but has stopped throwing it as much at the instruction of the Washington Nationals.

Lagging behind these pitches are his changeup and curveball. His curve is becoming a bigger part of his aresenal with the diminishing use of the slider. He throws a big 12-6 curve that sits in the low 70s.

Everything about Jordan Zimmerman looks good. He is a big, college pitcher with lots of projection. He is polished and has great makeup. Even for a college pitcher, his polish and makeup is advanced. For this reason, he should be fast-tracked by the Nationals.

he got called up on april 20 and has pitched 2 games, both wins (vs the braves and the mets).

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Just like the good ol’ days

by Glowsticks on May 1, 2009 6:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

zimm is for real

but welley’s luck is due to turn. go birdinals!

by erik on May 1, 2009 6:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

+Q

GO Colonel!!!

*Rasmus is to CF as Longoria is to 3B*

by Red Blazer on May 1, 2009 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

missing a letter...?

jordan zimmermanN is pitching, no?

by bort on May 1, 2009 6:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

you're memorializing the 'stache of doom, i see, erik.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on May 1, 2009 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

obligatory lineup dissection thread

Schu 4
Thirsty 5
Cooperstown 3
Lil Dunc 7
Thud 9
Dick 8
YaMo 2
T Greene 6
Welly 9

by nota bene on May 1, 2009 6:34 PM EDT reply actions   3 recs

maybe i've been out of it, but i've not seen "cooperstown"

so you get a rec.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on May 1, 2009 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

how does LaRussa come up with these things?

And how are we going to get away with two guys in right and no pitcher!?!?!?

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on May 1, 2009 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yadi is out...doesn't say why.

http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/commishs-hot-stove/commishs-hot-stove/cardinal-beat-updates/2009/05/ludwick-returns-to-lineup-molina-out/

2B Skip Schumaker

3B Joe Thurston

1B Albert Pujols

LF Chris Duncan

RF Ryan Ludwick

CF Rick Ankiel

C Jason La Rue

SS Tyler Greene

P Todd Wellemeyer

by RiverRat on May 1, 2009 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Later corrected by Strauss

Yadi is in. He was sick yesterday but feeling better.

by OCCardsFan on May 1, 2009 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The edit didn't show

but I did find this on the forum:
edit:

Catcher Yadier was a late addition to tonight’s lineup after his flu symptoms improved significantly from Thursday night.

"I feel good now," Molina said just before the team’s pre-game stretch.

Manager Tony La Russa said Molina was scheduled to receive Thursday off but became increasingly ill during the Cardinals’ 9-4 win over the Washington Nationals. Assuming Molina would need another day to recover, La Russa penciled Jason La Rue into Friday’s lineup. However, Molina arrived at the ballpark much improved.

The rest of the lineup remains intact.

Ryan Ludwick confirmed that he is close to 100 percent after battling the same symptoms for several days.

by RiverRat on May 1, 2009 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm sorry

It’s Zimmermann with two N’s at the end.

I’m sure wellemeyer will do good tonight. Remember, Welly pitches better away from busch stadium, and he’s on normal rest. He’s only pitched one game away from busch this year and his bad start against the cubs was with 7 days of rest, and a matinee game. Welly is good pitching as the visiting team, normal rest, and night games, i’m sure if he gets lit up badly tonight it’s something wrong with his mechanics that he still hasn’t fixed. even if washington has a decent hitting lineup with their future ace starting tonight, if welley can get through 6-7 innings and we can get to the Nats’ bullpen, it’ll be another victory tonight. (remember the cards did pretty good against zimmermann in spring training)

Cardwash Definition: Birds on the Nat.
OHHH YEAHHHH!!!!!!!

by cardwash on May 1, 2009 6:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

FSN's stats

just put up that Molina is getting 66 assists per nine innings?

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on May 1, 2009 6:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

that's like a REALLY serious number.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on May 1, 2009 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

according to Gameday

wind is blowing out to right @ 15 mph….

by nota bene on May 1, 2009 6:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

SW wind

means it’s blowing in, may not see too many home runs if the wind stays like that the whole night

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by cardwash on May 1, 2009 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

pretty sure it's blowing out

generally winds are referred to by the direction they are coming from. Somebody watching on TV could confirm for us if they get a wide angle shot at some point….

by nota bene on May 1, 2009 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

okay

if it’s from the SW then it’s blowing out, probly helped pujol’s HR lol

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by cardwash on May 1, 2009 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

OOOOOOOOOO

Nats have willie harris back playing CF, he’s the OF/2B utility aaron miles of the nats…only a better fielder with more power.

Cardwash Definition: Birds on the Nat.
OHHH YEAHHHH!!!!!!!

by cardwash on May 1, 2009 7:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow!

Pujols cranked the shit out of that one

Stat Whore

by FlimtotheFlam on May 1, 2009 7:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Umm

I think he got all of that one

"Statistics mean nothing to the individual"
"You are what you eat and you clearly went out and devoured a big fat guy"

by jacksonian on May 1, 2009 7:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

the mang!

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on May 1, 2009 7:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Al says "he has never faced a hitter like Albert."

Al, nobody has faced a hitter like Albert until they face.. well Albert.

"I remember once talking to one guy on the Cardinals and asking him what Pujols was like as a teammate. He said something that’s really special, if you think about it. He said: "Albert is so good that you feel like you let him down when you screw up." I thought that had to be the ultimate line that could ever be said about a ballplayer. I build my baseball team around that ballplayer."

by Smokin Turkeys on May 1, 2009 7:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, that's what I was thinking

“Welcome to the bigs, Zimmerman. Meet the best hitter you’ll ever see.”

by BTown Birds fan on May 1, 2009 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

heh

with a 5-16 record you could understand that

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by cardwash on May 1, 2009 7:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Your line is

Like what Yellowstone?

by Harknights on May 1, 2009 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You set them up

we flail wildly and screw it up

"I remember once talking to one guy on the Cardinals and asking him what Pujols was like as a teammate. He said something that’s really special, if you think about it. He said: "Albert is so good that you feel like you let him down when you screw up." I thought that had to be the ultimate line that could ever be said about a ballplayer. I build my baseball team around that ballplayer."

by Smokin Turkeys on May 1, 2009 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and actually the line is

name one

then you reply “yellowstone”

by BirdsonFire on May 1, 2009 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe would have stayed in the park

if it was to center at Polo Grounds…

"I remember once talking to one guy on the Cardinals and asking him what Pujols was like as a teammate. He said something that’s really special, if you think about it. He said: "Albert is so good that you feel like you let him down when you screw up." I thought that had to be the ultimate line that could ever be said about a ballplayer. I build my baseball team around that ballplayer."

by Smokin Turkeys on May 1, 2009 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you also grabbed the wrong movie

it was major league:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0097815/quotes

although it was cut from the final film (and added to the second)

Jake Taylor: [Vaughn is lamenting the long home run he gave up] That ball wouldn’t have been out of a lot of parks.
Rick Vaughn: Name one.
Jake Taylor: Yellowstone?

by BirdsonFire on May 1, 2009 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you can't stop him

you can only hope to contain him

by nota bene on May 1, 2009 7:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

let's work those counts. mets got zimmah out of the game in the middle of the sixth

against zimmah. he’s good but not efficient yet.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on May 1, 2009 7:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Trust me

I know manny acta, he makes so many bullpens switches zimmermann will be lucky to get through the 6th even with a pitch count around 80

Cardwash Definition: Birds on the Nat.
OHHH YEAHHHH!!!!!!!

by cardwash on May 1, 2009 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

with

the way Nationals park was designed, noise resonates much louder than most other parks, so even with their being 15-20 thousand fans, it can sound like 25-30 thousand

Cardwash Definition: Birds on the Nat.
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by cardwash on May 1, 2009 7:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

the cubs should trade for elijah dukes

soriano, bradley and dukes
thats a lot of attitude for an outfield

Smell the Glove

by emrfg8 on May 1, 2009 7:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

>sigh<

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on May 1, 2009 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hahhahahahahh

only difference is Dukes has the ability to stay healthy a full season and isn’t a piece of glass like bradley

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OHHH YEAHHHH!!!!!!!

by cardwash on May 1, 2009 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

isn't dukes the guy who got disciplined for not leaving a boys and girls club event?

is he really the guy you want to target as having terrible attitude?

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on May 1, 2009 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hes also the guy that got suspended

for 50 games in the minor leagues

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring" -Rogers Hornsby

by stlwcards on May 1, 2009 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's also the guy that threatened to kill his girlfriend

in front of her kindergarten class. He also told the ump to fuck off after hitting a walk off HR last year off of Franklin.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on May 1, 2009 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the fact

that he was late but didn’t tell anyone on the Nats team or front office he did the little league event (for money which was pathetic) was the reason why he was fined.

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by cardwash on May 1, 2009 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Didnt even pay the fine

the parents of the teams paid the fine

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring" -Rogers Hornsby

by stlwcards on May 1, 2009 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

me too

but not quite as sad now that rick is not slumping as bad

by VolsnCards5 on May 1, 2009 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

meh

duncan just made a decent play, he may be our worst defensive OF, but he’s better than Dunn defensively

Cardwash Definition: Birds on the Nat.
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by cardwash on May 1, 2009 7:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Normally, I would agree Hardcore.

But I just got his John Hancock cuz it’s his off day.

by Pujols Is A God on May 1, 2009 7:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

the wifes away

I’m enjoying atleast a serious number of franklins and play video games in between innings (yeah I’m a dork)

by cyko42 on May 1, 2009 7:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

mlb the show 07

man I need a ps3, and probably some civ 4 later on

by cyko42 on May 1, 2009 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Im playing mlb 08

on a psp

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring" -Rogers Hornsby

by stlwcards on May 1, 2009 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i've got the show 08

I was hoping to find some updated rosters, but no luck

by Glowsticks on May 1, 2009 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Last one i got was from the Texeria trade

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring" -Rogers Hornsby

by stlwcards on May 1, 2009 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I periodically delete whatever version of Civ I've got

so that I can sleep, eat, get basic household chores done…..

by nota bene on May 1, 2009 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah pretty sure

That I’ve lost years of my life to the civ franchise

by cyko42 on May 1, 2009 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I try to make myself be one version behind

when they come out with Civ 5 I’ll let myself get 4. It’s not like a need an excuse to spend an extra 15 hours a day in front of the computer…..

by nota bene on May 1, 2009 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Civ 4

Is like the best ever seriously go buy it now. but its true about spending more time in front of the computer. My wife still can’t figure out why I stare at least 40 a week at code then spend 3 or 4 hours each night, playing games or being on message boards

by cyko42 on May 1, 2009 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

nice pick greene

and nice pick pujols

by VolsnCards5 on May 1, 2009 7:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

can ya blame him?

but uuughhhh, Nick Johnson is such an OBP machine

Cardwash Definition: Birds on the Nat.
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by cardwash on May 1, 2009 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hate to dog the guy after only 1 month

but it can’t be a bad thing for the farm club to be pushing iffy players on the big club….

by nota bene on May 1, 2009 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m willing to write off 2008 as just an aberration….but other posters have gotten the impression that he lacks intensity, doesn’t run out grounders or doesn’t give max effort on defense. If he struggles at the plate, hey it’s baseball, it happens, it’s a long season, etc., but if he’s loafing then send in the rookies, by all means….

/$0.02

by nota bene on May 1, 2009 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice Catch Dicky

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring" -Rogers Hornsby

by stlwcards on May 1, 2009 7:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He went to the

Jimmy E school of Centerfield

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring" -Rogers Hornsby

by stlwcards on May 1, 2009 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

cmon jesus

DP!

R.P.O.F.Y.M.

by BVHeck on May 1, 2009 7:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

please

don’t root against jesus

be happy it’s only a single

by hex706f726368 on May 1, 2009 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey jesus!

you suck!
lol

R.P.O.F.Y.M.

by BVHeck on May 1, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

nah

welly is pitching on normal rest, at night, and away from busch, he’ll pitch good tonight.

Cardwash Definition: Birds on the Nat.
OHHH YEAHHHH!!!!!!!

by cardwash on May 1, 2009 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Coniditions are Perfect!

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring" -Rogers Hornsby

by stlwcards on May 1, 2009 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So, is Welley's luck officially changing?

Because he’s getting hammered, just right at people.

by longhornscardinals on May 1, 2009 7:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Lets not get ahead of ourselves

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring" -Rogers Hornsby

by stlwcards on May 1, 2009 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What do folks think of this prediction

From a Sporting News writer named Stan McNeal:
“If the Nationals can sign Strasburg before the August 15 deadline—it will be one of the biggest stories of the season if they don’t—look for him in the majors this season.”

Personally, that strikes me as a really bad idea. I don’t know enough to know if/how often that happens.

by BTown Birds fan on May 1, 2009 7:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Something more sane from that same article

And by more sane, I meant complimentary to the Cards:

“In fan voting, Cardinals catcher Yadier Molina will not emerge as the starting catcher for the National League. That will be a joke. No less of an authority than Cubs catcher Geovany Soto, an All-Star and N.L. rookie of the year in 2008, says Molina was a man among boys when, as teens, they played in Puerto Rico amateur leagues. “Everybody knew then he would be the best of the (three Molina brothers) catching in the majors,” Soto says."

by BTown Birds fan on May 1, 2009 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's going to get paid a ton of money

no reason to really keep him down in the minors unless you believe he can’t pitch.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on May 1, 2009 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But no matter how good he is he's not going to matter to the Nats' season,

and it seems like there’s a big potential downside of moving a young kid up too fast and having him get pounded. I don’t really know anything about Strasburg, and maybe that’s worrying way too much about how fragile his psyche is. But it makes a lot more sense to me to let him have the rest of the season at various levels of the minor leagues, then see what he does in Spring Training.

by BTown Birds fan on May 1, 2009 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can almost guarantee

That a stipulation of the Strasburg contract will be that he starts on the 40 man roster. That will speed up his Arbitration time quickly

Stat Whore

by FlimtotheFlam on May 1, 2009 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

it's hard to believe he won't be a better pitcher than at least one member of the nats rotation.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on May 1, 2009 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That would be Serious

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring" -Rogers Hornsby

by stlwcards on May 1, 2009 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How sweet is Albert Pujols?

First 105 PAs

2006
28 Hits
26 Runs
4 2B
14 HR
32 RBI
24 BB
5 IBB
7 SO
.350/.495/.925

Great start to a season, right? Historic even. Now look at 2009.

2009
28 Hits
22 Runs
4 2B
8 HR
18 BB
5 IBB
7 SO
.337/.457/.675

The difference between the two season is obviously the power (6 HRs) and walks (6 BBs).

It’s just amazing how close some of those numbers are.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on May 1, 2009 7:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

question

was there more games played in april 06 then this year? I know the season started late this year

by cyko42 on May 1, 2009 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes

Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.

he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.

by bearcatcardfan on May 1, 2009 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

so given the extra games

the home run numbers and BB would probably be a lot closer.

by cyko42 on May 1, 2009 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i believe it was 3 more games

Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.

he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.

by bearcatcardfan on May 1, 2009 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

umm, if he had the same number of hits in 2006 and 2009, and a lower

BA in 2009, doesn’t that mean he had fewer PAs in 2006, and more in 2009? because if you get the same number of hits, the larger the number of ABs the more your avg declines.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on May 1, 2009 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

More walks means less AB's

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring" -Rogers Hornsby

by stlwcards on May 1, 2009 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He had

5 more plate appearances in 2006, according to b-ref.

Classic underachiever.

by spants on May 1, 2009 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

5 more pa's would not dramatically change his hr totals for the month.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on May 1, 2009 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

this was my question

Thanks! But still pretty amazing how close they were

by cyko42 on May 1, 2009 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fair enough,

but he still had more PAs in ’06.

Classic underachiever.

by spants on May 1, 2009 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you're right. pa's; ab's. let's call the whole thing off.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on May 1, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

LOL

Classic underachiever.

by spants on May 1, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and he shows every sign of continuing.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on May 1, 2009 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You want to hear something scary?

Albert’s BABIP for April in 2009 is .286
In 2006, it was .230.

You are reading this correctly.

Classic underachiever.

by spants on May 1, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

stop it. now you're just making stuff up. :)

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on May 1, 2009 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Isn't that insane?

Classic underachiever.

by spants on May 1, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's like finding out he had a stress fracture the whole month.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on May 1, 2009 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice.

Except not only was he other-worldly, the man was UNLUCKY.

Classic underachiever.

by spants on May 1, 2009 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

whew

Welly managed to escape that one….I have the feeling he’s going to be in and out of trouble all day….

by nota bene on May 1, 2009 7:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

as long as he ends up on the "out" end, i'm okay.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on May 1, 2009 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thrusty scared me there

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring" -Rogers Hornsby

by stlwcards on May 1, 2009 7:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

hang em and bang em

though albert may go for three there…i love lead off doubles though

by VolsnCards5 on May 1, 2009 7:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Duncan goes yard!!!!!!!!!!!!

Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.

he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.

by bearcatcardfan on May 1, 2009 7:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Dunc

with his best AP impression

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring" -Rogers Hornsby

by stlwcards on May 1, 2009 7:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

noice!!!

duncan donuts

Smell the Glove

by emrfg8 on May 1, 2009 7:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He didn't

finish his swing, and he pulled an outside pitch. Very strong.

Classic underachiever.

by spants on May 1, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

who said that to begin with

i remember laughing so hard last season at that

by VolsnCards5 on May 1, 2009 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

"jack a dong" may have been yours

but I’m pretty sure I coined “dongjackery” here. It may be the only useful thing I ever do with my life, so I wanted to set the record straight.

by Andyfantastic on May 1, 2009 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

somebody asked yesterday when dunc was gonna hit another!

today!

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on May 1, 2009 7:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

big dude

over there in LF.

makes me wonder where the heck colby’s power is

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by cardwash on May 1, 2009 7:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

what are the odds

that kansas city continues to score more runs than they give up?

by cyko42 on May 1, 2009 7:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Fairly high

if they can have greinke pitch every game

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring" -Rogers Hornsby

by stlwcards on May 1, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

when grienke pitches

the odds are pretty good

by VolsnCards5 on May 1, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

not as low as you might think

looks like they have a semi-decent team this year….Greinke makes them look better for sure, and the AL Central looks pretty soft so far this year….

by nota bene on May 1, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

especially

with cliff lee and teh rest of the indians rotation the way it is (oh reyes!)

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by cardwash on May 1, 2009 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

c'mon

get zimmermann’s pitch count up, i wanna see the cards beat up on Kip Wells =D

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by cardwash on May 1, 2009 7:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

actually

I’m kind of enjoying watching them beat up Zimmermann

by nota bene on May 1, 2009 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's early, but:

Classic underachiever.

by spants on May 1, 2009 7:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

probably

the Johnson walk

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by cardwash on May 1, 2009 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well

that was after Pujols’ HR.

Classic underachiever.

by spants on May 1, 2009 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have no idea.

Maybe because they got the first two batters of the inning out.

Classic underachiever.

by spants on May 1, 2009 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Because Washington is the home team.

Thus, if they retire the Cardinals in the first inning, then they have nine at-bats vs. only eight for El Birdos.

At the beginning of the game, with no outs, the win expectancy is even. (Well, roughly speaking; there is a proven bias toward the home team, but easier just to start in the middle.) As one team takes their at-bats and makes outs, the chance of the other team winning goes up, if only slightly, simply because of that fact that one team then has more chances to hit and score and win than the other.

It’s the same reason you basically never see a horizontal line on one of these things. Every single out changes the percentages, even if only a tiny amount.

If you've got a blacklist, I want to be on it.

by the red baron on May 2, 2009 4:58 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jefferson won the race! woot

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by cardwash on May 1, 2009 7:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

its hailing outside

the wife is at a baby shower…i’m drinking Newcastle…great night for baseball and a cards win

by VolsnCards5 on May 1, 2009 8:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Dukes hurt himself running around 1B

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring" -Rogers Hornsby

by stlwcards on May 1, 2009 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Didnt actually hurt himself

just precautionary

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring" -Rogers Hornsby

by stlwcards on May 1, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

dukes stumbled going around first

he’s fine…unless you count his brain on that stupid decision

by VolsnCards5 on May 1, 2009 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

greene almost screwed it up

but i like where his head is at

by VolsnCards5 on May 1, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i'm sure acta is real excited.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on May 1, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Would have beaten him by a mile

if the throw hadnt been off. Good play really

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring" -Rogers Hornsby

by stlwcards on May 1, 2009 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ball was hit in front of dukes but he went anyways

greene would have nailed him by a bit but made a wide throw..still got him

by VolsnCards5 on May 1, 2009 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Phew! Close one...

He’s in trouble with LaManager if that doesn’t work out with a 3-run lead. I’ll take it. Now top it off with a DP.

I once shot a man just to see him die...then I got distracted and missed it.

by TheDuke32 on May 1, 2009 8:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I dunno

That is the right baseball play If the player from second takes off and the ball is ahead of him you have to throw him out

by cyko42 on May 1, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah. More so in hindsight I guess...

…if he would of, you know, zipped it into the dugout.

But hey! – DP!

I once shot a man just to see him die...then I got distracted and missed it.

by TheDuke32 on May 1, 2009 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am sure

No matter what the play was if you zip it into the dugout Your in trouble with La Manager

by cyko42 on May 1, 2009 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yep

thats definitely eck’s brother

by VolsnCards5 on May 1, 2009 8:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Is Rick Eckstein

the coach of grit/hustle?

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring" -Rogers Hornsby

by stlwcards on May 1, 2009 8:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

batting coach

not sure about base running coach but i’m sure he’s not too pleased with dukes running to third

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by cardwash on May 1, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

humor FAIL

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring" -Rogers Hornsby

by stlwcards on May 1, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

$99.99

w00t

Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.

he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.

by bearcatcardfan on May 1, 2009 8:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

$99.99

w00t

Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.

he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.

by bearcatcardfan on May 1, 2009 8:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i can't tell if it's him or the Nats

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

BEN MOTHERHUSHYOURMOUTH SHEETS

by gdm426 on May 1, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

welly needs to take the infield out to lunch tomorrow.

or maybe name his first born “tyler.”

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on May 1, 2009 8:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Per GD

58 for Welle through 4, 57 for Zim through 4.

by StanTheManFan on May 1, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

both around the same

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by cardwash on May 1, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

welle 58-------zimmerman 59

Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.

he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.

by bearcatcardfan on May 1, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

both looking at 6 innings

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by cardwash on May 1, 2009 8:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

encouraging

I’d still like to see some more strikeouts, and this is the Nats, but so far so good for Welle

by Scarecrow7775 on May 1, 2009 8:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

San Fran, possibly.

But Lincecum isn’t pitching for the Nats.

by StanTheManFan on May 1, 2009 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

it probably is

they are just making tons of mistakes everywhere

by BirdsonFire on May 1, 2009 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

they have some highlights.

the top four on the team are pretty reasonable. after that . . . meh.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on May 1, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

they have

like the 4th or 5th best batting average, so they’ve been hitting.

but they haven’t been hitting in the clutch

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by cardwash on May 1, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

3, 4, 5

yeah, their middle is really quite respectable

by Scarecrow7775 on May 1, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Greene looks overmatched here.

Marginal hitter, new to the Show, vs. a prospect. Can’t really blame him.

by StanTheManFan on May 1, 2009 8:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

welle helping himself

Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.

he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.

by bearcatcardfan on May 1, 2009 8:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

hit n run with pitcher going, awesome

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by cardwash on May 1, 2009 8:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

tlr is doing that a fair amount this season

and i seem to recall him doing it a lot… if the pitchers ever get on

by BirdsonFire on May 1, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hit and run with the pitcher?

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring" -Rogers Hornsby

by stlwcards on May 1, 2009 8:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

welle

why didn’t he just hit a homer instead?

by Scarecrow7775 on May 1, 2009 8:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Welley helping his cause. Hoping Albert can make it easy for him...

(assuming someone else gets on)

I once shot a man just to see him die...then I got distracted and missed it.

by TheDuke32 on May 1, 2009 8:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Anybody watching on TV?

Ball 1 to Skippy not only looked like a strike on GD, but downright fat. Was it really?

by StanTheManFan on May 1, 2009 8:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I wonder how accurate the GD pitch locations are.

GD didn’t have it in the middle of the plate, but clearly catching enough of the corner, and at the knees.

by StanTheManFan on May 1, 2009 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rob Dibble...

is a real life Quagmire.

by longhornscardinals on May 1, 2009 8:12 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

Rec'd

Classic underachiever.

by spants on May 1, 2009 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, that was me

I've got one foot on the platform, the other foot on the train
I'm going back to New Orleans, to wear that ball and chain

by jd is legend on May 2, 2009 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

good pa's this inning.

even the outs are good pa’s. greene and skippy did very well.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on May 1, 2009 8:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Thurston, take a walk please.

I once shot a man just to see him die...then I got distracted and missed it.

by TheDuke32 on May 1, 2009 8:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

hahahah

Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.

he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.

by bearcatcardfan on May 1, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

what the hell is he doing trying to bunt?

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

BEN MOTHERHUSHYOURMOUTH SHEETS

by gdm426 on May 1, 2009 8:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

zimmerman way behind the bag

Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.

he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.

by bearcatcardfan on May 1, 2009 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i should have finished my thought

why do that with 2 out & a above average 3rd, with a pitcher who can walk him & like you said, with Pujols on deck

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

BEN MOTHERHUSHYOURMOUTH SHEETS

by gdm426 on May 1, 2009 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

awwwwwwww

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by cardwash on May 1, 2009 8:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Thursty ROBBED

Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.

he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.

by bearcatcardfan on May 1, 2009 8:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i hate dan

made it sound gone

by VolsnCards5 on May 1, 2009 8:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

heh

if you hate dan, check out the video i have linked in my signature

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by cardwash on May 1, 2009 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If its in the air out of the infield

Dan thinks its a moonshot

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring" -Rogers Hornsby

by stlwcards on May 1, 2009 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

dukes is such a tool

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

BEN MOTHERHUSHYOURMOUTH SHEETS

by gdm426 on May 1, 2009 8:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Robbed or not

he’s still in the middle of an evil slump.

by StanTheManFan on May 1, 2009 8:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

evil slump = BABIP declining from .700 to .300

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on May 1, 2009 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i miss

barden playing 3B

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by cardwash on May 1, 2009 8:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah what ever happend to that guy?

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

BEN MOTHERHUSHYOURMOUTH SHEETS

by gdm426 on May 1, 2009 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i really don't get it

i guess the lefty vs. right matchup thing?

by VolsnCards5 on May 1, 2009 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think it's because...

if Thurston starts, TLR gets to move him to 2B, put Barden at 3B, and Skip in LF.

Whereas if Barden starts at 3B, the move would only be Thurston to 2B and Skip in LF, which is not nearly as exciting.

by DiscoJer on May 1, 2009 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

when is he going to learn to not take Skippy outta the infield?

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

BEN MOTHERHUSHYOURMOUTH SHEETS

by gdm426 on May 1, 2009 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ooh damn. Albert'll just have to tag another solo shot.

…
Ooh damn. Three Amigos is on HBO. What to watch, what to watch.

I once shot a man just to see him die...then I got distracted and missed it.

by TheDuke32 on May 1, 2009 8:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

HBO Cinemax.

“would you say I have a plethora of gifts?”

I once shot a man just to see him die...then I got distracted and missed it.

by TheDuke32 on May 1, 2009 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is anybody else watching this game in DC?

I don’t watch MASN too often, but wow Rob Dibble sucks.

by Expatcardfan on May 1, 2009 8:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i like carpenter, but dibbs made me turn it back to dan & al

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

BEN MOTHERHUSHYOURMOUTH SHEETS

by gdm426 on May 1, 2009 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

dibble replaced don sutton, talk about a downgrade

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by cardwash on May 1, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

if it walks like a douche, looks liked a douche, and talks like a douche,

guess what? it’s a douche

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

BEN MOTHERHUSHYOURMOUTH SHEETS

by gdm426 on May 1, 2009 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

thurston gets the TLR veteran treatment, even though he’s not really much of a veteran

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by cardwash on May 1, 2009 8:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Thurston

he’s back to performing at his norm. Birds got out of him more than they could expect. Time to give Barden more time. What’s Freeze doing in Memphis? Good? Bad? Bring him back?

by Scarecrow7775 on May 1, 2009 8:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

some how he ended up in Tony's dog house

i doubt we’ll see him ever again

It kind of sounds like he’s [Duncan] just running around like a puppy out there – full speed ahead in random directions. – BTown Birds Fan

BEN MOTHERHUSHYOURMOUTH SHEETS

by gdm426 on May 1, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

so far...so bad

but then again…the entire memphis team isn’t really hiting

by VolsnCards5 on May 1, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

think you'll see mather before freese. mather is coming out of his slump, somewhat.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on May 1, 2009 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

what happened to the pitcher?

gameday said no out, but he lined out to luddy?

by BirdsonFire on May 1, 2009 8:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yes

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring" -Rogers Hornsby

by stlwcards on May 1, 2009 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What? Remind me who started on opening day again

Someone had to go down. Thursty and Barden were mashing at that point so Freese was the odd man out. And now he’s not doing much anything in AAA to prove he belongs on the big club.

THE SKIP IS LEGIT!!

by stltrav09 on May 1, 2009 8:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

good jod weele nice quick inning

now lets get a quick run

Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.

he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.

by bearcatcardfan on May 1, 2009 8:22 PM EDT