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Lohse, verdant greens

The weird thing about Kyle Lohse going into this season is that the perceptions about him seem to cancel each other out—he had a career year as a 29-year-old, so you expect him to regress, but he wasn't as good as his hot first half and sterling record made him look, so he might not regress all that much after all. 

What I like about Lohse so far is his willingness to go after hitters when he's behind in the count. For a control guy he has a pretty good fastball, sitting at 90 for the last few years per BIS and Fangraphs, and when he fell behind Berkman with his shutout and the game on the line yesterday he wasn't aftaid to use it—he threw a get-over pitch down the middle on 3-0, and a fastball on the inner half 3-1 that Berkman lined into Colby Rasmus's glove.

That wasn't the only time, either—in the eighth he fell behind Pudge trying to hit the outside corner with three consecutive balls and, rather than stick to his original gameplan, proceeded to throw two fastballs up and get another fly ball. Every time Lohse got behind a hitter, which wasn't often, he'd scrap his gameplan and literally pitch to contact. Fly ball tendencies aside, he's a La Dunc-ian dream: the pitcher who knows he's in a pitcher's park. And that's how he's managed to walk exactly one batter in 16 innings.

Last year he walked an extra half a batter per nine innings when pitching on the road; it'll be interesting to see if that split holds up as 2009 progresses, if for no other reason than to make sure I wasn't just making things up. 

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While we're on efficiency, the P-D took a look at Wainwright's lack thereof yesterday, and it's certainly threatening to become an early-season meme if he keeps walking a batter an inning. After two starts his strike percentage is down from his usual 62%—held steady over the last few years—but only by four percent. Fangraphs doesn't see a different pitch distribution, either. 

I was at the game with some friends Saturday, though it's difficult to do a lot of sustained pitching analysis from the very top of the stadium. But here's my anecdotal, early-season observation: I don't know if I just missed it last year, but this year he's started pitching backwards, like the Japanese pitchers in the WBC, on a pretty regular basis. It's mostly first and second pitch sliders, but Saturday he dropped two consecutive curveballs to start an at-bat against Kazuo Matsui. I don't know if it's related to his command issues—I don't even know if he did it last year, although I don't remember it as much—but it seems strange for a guy who's had prolonged problems with his slider in the past to rely on it as a get-ahead pitch. 

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Opening week means another seasonal tradition is about to begin: overreacting about minor league prospects, perpetual victims of the small sample size. Of course the essential site for this stuff is Future Redbirds, which will update you on every player's movement every night in a way that would have sounded extremely far-off five years ago. But I thought I'd mention a nice comeback story that's developing in the deep bush. 

Last year Gary Daley had a line that is impossible to visualize. It might have been the worst anybody's ever pitched in professional baseball. Take a look:

LG G GS IP H ER HR BB K ERA
GCL 17 11 10.1 15 28 0 32 5 24.39

17 games, 11 starts—10 innings. A walk for every out recorded. An ERA of 24.39. I can't imagine sitting through one of these outings. I can't imagine pitching like that, night after night, in the lowest rung of the minors, at the end of the world—with kids just out of high school, kids who've just landed in America from the Central American summer leagues, staring at you and thinking, what kind of joke is this? All summer. The crowds there for fireworks night, wishing you'd just get it over it.

All this time Gary Daley, 22, had been slowly building up to this moment. In 2006 he'd had a mildly encouraging season in the short-season New York-Penn League. A few too many walks, but no home runs, a strikeout an inning, more or less, and the usual hyperbolic remarks about his stuff. A 20 year-old can build a short prospect list career on just that. 

The next year, a set-back, but one that seems to exist in this world—53 strikeouts, 62 walks. A first trip to the GCL, in which his problems got even worse. And then 2008—the nightmare. The kids out of high school, the summer leaguers, the joke. 

But all this time there's promise. If there's no promise, a guy who walks three batters an inning doesn't stick around to make 17 appearances. In 160 innings Gary Daley has allowed three home runs—there's the promise. He's got the pitches he used to have.

In February and March there were internet-forum whispers about Daley, typically of the breakout-candidate variety, but internet forums can whisper about anything. At least one internet forum has pegged me as a breakout candidate, according to the universal law of internet forumry. No amount of Vuch reporting can cover up those 2008 numbers.

But on April 10, Gary Daley got into a game with the Quad Cities River Bandits. He went an inning and a third. He struck out a batter. He didn't walk anybody. 161 innings, three home runs. He's still 23. 

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Dan you will break out some day

just not on the baseball field

"People call me El Hombre," Pujols said. "But only Stan is the Man."

by StLHugo on Apr 13, 2009 9:04 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

When I first sat down to read this post

I thought Dan had broke out into the red baron.

Just kidding, great post!

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Apr 13, 2009 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Does anyone at times have feelings while looking at this team...

That it just might have the potential to have a 2004-esque break-out campaign from the pitching staff. It just seems like they have that same latent un-realized potential in the pitching staff if everything breaks right for them (meaning nothing breaks).

I mean come on, Piniero or Wellenmeyer seem somehow capable of managing an oddly out of character Marquis-esque record of 15-7, can Lohse pull a Suppan-ish 16-9, wainwright certainly seems capable of matching Morris’ 15-10 record (if he is the wagon-maker), while Carpenter if healthily starting 30+ games this season seems capable of matching his 15-5 campaign, leaving the latter of Piniero / Wellenmeyer to match the line put up by Woody of 11-8. I think this rotation can combine for the same 72 wins if it is right.

Then what happens IF Wallace just mashes in AAA and shows some moderate level of defensive ability and you move Glaus, Ankiel and a prospect at the deadline for some pieces for the pen / rotation. Giving you a late season / 2010 line-up of

Schumaker
Duncan
Pujols
Wallace
Ludwick
Rasmus
Greene
Molina
Pitcher

with these fellas on the bench

Larue
Mather
Freese (might end up becoming trade bait)
Thurston
Barden

by streamman on Apr 13, 2009 9:38 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Potential vs Reality

I think the potential is there but I won’t count on or even let my self think of the possibility till after the ASB. Mainly because I think the chance is so low that I don’t want to get my hopes up.

"People call me El Hombre," Pujols said. "But only Stan is the Man."

by StLHugo on Apr 13, 2009 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

particularly...

the chances of Carp, Wainwright and Welley all making 30 or more starts. I do REALLY like this team!

Sometimes I wonder,
"Why is that frisbee getting bigger?"

...and then it hits me!!

by cardzfanbub on Apr 13, 2009 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can see the similarities.

I was thinking about this myself yesterday. Reading DanUp’s post kinda made me equate Lohse to what Woody was willing to do for the first couple of years after he came over. That average control pitcher that seems to use the information and approach supplied by Duncan to systematically attack other teams’ lineups. I’ve also kinda been equating Pineiro to Marquis. There seems to be talent there, if he can subjegate his emotions and pride long enough to pitch intelligently. I don’t know that Wainwright is Morris at his best, be he can certainly exceed what we got from Morris that year.

There is definitely solid potential from this rotation if Wellemeyer can put it together the way he did last year.

by etp_stl on Apr 13, 2009 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That is really all I was intending to talk about is the amount of potential that does exist… and trying to make some small inferences into where it lies with regards to the potential for the staff to be a true successful staff Duncan style staff. I don’t think this team will win much more than about at the low 90ish games. But I am going to have fun watching them just the same, even if they don’t realize the potential that I see existing. I just find it fun that no one expected that kind of year out of that staff in ’04 and yet it happened and we seem to have the same type of potential this year.

by streamman on Apr 13, 2009 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think Wainwright at his best is equal to Morris at his best

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by jd is legend on Apr 13, 2009 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hope so

because Morris at his best was awesome!

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Apr 13, 2009 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hope so, but ...

Morris was extremely dominant when he was at his best. I’m not saying that Wainwright won’t get there, but I wouldn’t say that he has shown that just yet. Morris was a Cy Young contender once upon a time, and deservedly so. I don’t know that Wainwright has shown that kind of dominance, yet.

by etp_stl on Apr 13, 2009 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like the lineup

But I think it needs a right handed masher to provide some support against LHPs. I’m hoping it is Mather, but I am not yet convinced.

by OCCardsFan on Apr 13, 2009 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think it's only a matter of time

before Mather gets the call and Barden is sent back to Memphis.

THE SKIP IS LEGIT!!

Seriously... what were Rich Harden's parents thinking?!?!?!

by stltrav09 on Apr 13, 2009 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

nice dream

and I can buy into it on the pitching , but it seems that Wallace’ glove is pretty far away from being ready for the big boys

"How can a Mexican lose the ball in the sun" ? Harry Caray

by bigchieftootiemontana on Apr 13, 2009 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I could see it

but will wait until after next weekend before getting cocky.

We’re 5-2, but so are the Padres and the Mariners.

by liam on Apr 13, 2009 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wallace

I doubt we’ll see Wallace up this year. He’d have to jump two levels by the trade deadline and the Cards probably wouldn’t see much of a return on Glaus since he’ll be coming off injury. That, plus a pitch to contact rotation will probably keep him in AAA until he either shapes up defensively (which is sort of doubtful this year) or a clear position opens up for him.

by spencegrif on Apr 13, 2009 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Still early

They played a couple crappy teams and went 4-2 at home. Good but not great. Let’s give it another month before we start talking World Series. They still look average to me. A lot of outfielders who are average, no 3B until Glaus arrives, and a manager who won’t play Ludwick every night although he is one of the best players in the game. I’d like to see Carp get 10 starts before making any predictions. Would also like to see them deal an OF and/or prospect for a strong 2B.

Just win

by The Duke on Apr 13, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dan...

you didn’t like my Pujols joke? :(

by Chewy on Apr 13, 2009 10:40 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I’ll have to break it out on the game thread.

by DanUpBaby on Apr 13, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've heard that his last name lends itself well to jokes

But I just can’t figure it out. Perhaps some Cub fan could wear a cheap T-shirt to explain it to me.

by Andyfantastic on Apr 13, 2009 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I try to read those shirts but the accent sounds off

The U in the first syllable should be almost elided out, as there’s none in “team”, and the emphasis should be on the second syllable, like it’s short for “Hall of Fame” — if it were plural.

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by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What a weekend

I got to watch all three Cards games on TV as well as two Bulls games, all wins. Can’t get any better than that.

Fox Sports has their best and worst in baseball list and two people didn’t vote for El Hombre. They must have missed Saturday’s game. Tony comes in fifth among managers. Go ahead and tell the Astros they are the fifth worst team in baseball, they just won’t believe you. Even after a sweep.

Snap judgments, Yadi is in search mode at the plate, Freese needs more time at Memphis, Dunc may have trade value again and Tony has waaaaay to many people he can move around. In the sixth he put Ryan at second and moved Skip to left, OK. Then in the bottom of the sixth Tony pinch hits Thirsty for Ryan. So let me get this straight, Ryan comes in to play defense for half an inning. Obviously there’s no way Thirsty could have handled that one routine grounder that came Ryan’s way. We had to burn a bench player in the high leverage situation of the sixth to maximize defensive potential for that half inning.

The Houston announcers seem a little perplexed by some of Tony’s moves but one dismissed the concerns with a classic Rocky Bridges quote that I haven’t heard in years. I’ve decided to make it my new sig. Why you may ask? Well for three reasons. One, I do know how to make a fire. Two, I have gotten on Tony on occasion (see above) and three I do run a hotel. No joke, that’s how I make a living. Same job title as Mr. Mo even. Guess I need to reconsider criticizing Tony. Nah, can’t do that, it’s just way to much fun.

"There are three things the average man thinks he can do better than anybody else, build a fire, run a hotel and manage a baseball team."- Rocky Bridges

by That's a Winner on Apr 13, 2009 11:34 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What's amazing to me about that Fox Sports list is that it's executives voting.

I mean, these people run baseball teams for a living, and two of them didn’t even vote for Pujols? Do they spend their salaries on too much booze and coke? Do they have amnesia and had to wing it by pitcking players at random? Take Manny Ramirez, only better at hitting, and combine him with a Fielding Bible ace defender, and you get Albert Pujols. For him not to even make it into a top 5 list is patently absurd. I know this has been said over and over again, but these are executives. How did those two guys get their job in the first place?

by mattybobo on Apr 13, 2009 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shot in the dark

Maybe these are AL execs with tunnel vision, only focusing on their own league? That’s all I’ve got by way of a possible explanation.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Apr 13, 2009 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Note from an annonymous AL Executive...

Pujols is NOT one of the top 5 players in the game… Don’t you know that the pitching in the American League is far superior than that of the Little League… The American League is the AAAAA level of Baseball and the NL is just the AAAA level. Only the best players can play in the NL and to try to project someone’s stats from AAAA to a AAAAA equivalent is just so ridiculously, patently absurd that it should not even be attempted. Therefor, there absolutely is no reason to give merit to the idea that THIS Albert guy you speak of is even close to the best player in the game… I mean come on he can’t even regularly beat out the likes of other little leaguer’s like Howard, Dunn, Delgado, Fielder, and Berkman for the homerun title every year, he even let one of his own little league teammates tie him for his own team lead last year. Let alone beat out Jones for the batting title. Don’t you even dare bring up stats like OBP, Slugging, and OPS those are just made up stats anyway. Furthermore, this fielding you speak of is meritless as well, IF we were so inclined to let him play in our much better league he would just be an average disabled hitter, you really are wasting his talents and taking away from his game by making him play first base. At best considering the superiority of the pitching and the other players in our quintuplet-A league he might be lucky to be a top 5 player over here. And by the way, why are you all even bothering showing up at the all-star game and the world series anymore? Isn’t obvious by now that you guys (the quad-A league) suck.

Sorry I have been watching to much ESPN lately… they have brainwashed my head.

If I could get this in Blue type I would :-(

by streamman on Apr 13, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Heh

A stomping of the AL at the All-Star game would be some nice catharsis.

by mattybobo on Apr 13, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll be there, so I hope so.

and I really hope Pujols does the HR derby and hits one out of the stadium

by STLRegalia on Apr 13, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm beginning to think it's an NL plot

To gain home-field advantage during the pivotal games of the WS. Seems to work…

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

commenter

The biggest laugh on this whole page is the last comment made (which is the at the top of the comment list) that says Pujols isn’t good defensively and is just a “failed outfielder”. How dare Pujols not be a great outfielder after playing it for a few months after being an infielder the rest of his life!

by thp0344 on Apr 13, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't understand

why the news outlets encourage commenting on their news articles. It’s just not the place for it and diminishes the product.

by liam on Apr 13, 2009 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I don't get it

It seems like the comment system for all newspaper turns into a yelling match of 4chan zombies. I don’t understand why it turns out so bad. On most quality blog sites the comments are just as good as the posts. Full of answers for your questions and with new questions to be asked. But on newspaper sites it is just garbage.

I wonder why that is so

Stat Whore

by FlimtotheFlam on Apr 13, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You said it yourself.

On most quality sites; ie sites that people have actively sought out. Newspaper sites are mostly commented on by people who have only a passing familiarity with the subject actually being discussed.

It’s just selection bias, and it happens on all subjects, not just sports. Go to any website devoted to one subject, and you’ll find tons of passionate, educated people who know what they’re talking about and make informed conversation. Then, go to any general news site and check out the convo happening about the exact same subject, and you’ll get THIS ADMINISTRATION IS TEH SUCK!!!! Politics, sports, religion, all the same way.

The people who frequent sites like this are the people with the interest and aptitude to learn the subject. The people on newspaper sites are people who just dropped by to get the news and felt like bitching about something. Simple as that.

If you've got a blacklist, I want to be on it.

by the red baron on Apr 13, 2009 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

and how dare he have a fucked up elbow for 5 years

St. Louis Cardinals... defying win expectancy since 2008

by vivaelpujols on Apr 13, 2009 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great Easter Weekend

I was fortunate enough to be there Albert’s immortal 2006 Easter Sunday Festival of Awesome, and since I was lucky enough to go to the game yesterday I was of course hoping for similar heroics. Well, Albert didn’t hit 3 homers, but I also got to witness a surprise Kyle Lohse CGSO. Well, I witnessed 8 full innings of it anyway; we left early because my 4 1/2 month old daughter can only take so much. Speaking of 4 1/2 month olds—they are 15 and under, and able to get their dads an awesome Ryan Ludwick Bat Day bat (the economy and weather might have something to do with it as well, we arrived right about start time and there were plenty of bats left). I’ve been very lucky with the giveaways, and this one ranks right up there with my Chris Carpenter 2005 Cy Young statue and Yadier Molina bobblehead.

by mattybobo on Apr 13, 2009 11:46 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What size is the bat?

hecanthithecanthithecanthithecanthit

by Alxfritz on Apr 13, 2009 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Surprisingly big

It wasn’t one of those miniature stickball looking things, it has about the same proportions as a real bat, just scaled down somewhat, I think. When I hold it it feels pretty substantial, but I’m 5’6" with shoes on, so I’m guessing it’s maybe 7/10ths, 8/10ths of the real thing.
It would be perfect for playing around in a big field with some tennis balls or something for example.

by mattybobo on Apr 13, 2009 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have the Chris Carpenter Cy Young statue as well, although the ball in his throwing arm has since been broken off, along with 4 of his fingers :( I remember the game was rained out but the 7 hour round trip from Springfield was worth the little statue

by SGFCardinals on Apr 13, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I also was at the Easter 2006 game

My buddy’s dad threw out the first pitch and I got to meet Walt Jocketty. Greatest game of my life to see in person.

Stat Whore

by FlimtotheFlam on Apr 13, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was there too

I doubt I will ever see a better game

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Apr 13, 2009 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

my last game at old Busch

was Eck’s walk off Grand Slam. beat that :)

"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"

by tgreenfield on Apr 13, 2009 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Present and Future Positives

There are a lot more positives to this team than there are negatives. The pitching staff looks to be very competitive but the big question is can they stay healthy. With that said there appears to be more help at AAA than in recent years.

The future also seems bright, but Glaus, Greene and Ankiel are possibly in their last year with the Cards. Hopefully Greene will have a great year and will resign, but it seems highly doubtful that they will spend big money for Glaus and Ankiel. The outfield is no problem but 3B still looks to be wide open. It will be interesting to see how that situation is resolved.

I also think that it is just a matter of time until Perez is back up and Mather for Barden seems to make sense if Mather could get it together, but right now I would rather see a lefthanded Duncan, Rasmus or Ankiel play instead of Mather. Bring Mather up to platoon would limit their at bats and I don’t think that Tony wants to do that and Barden is probably a better option for a right handed bat off the bench.

There also continues to be the possibility of a trade as the Cards seem to have a lot of good minor league players and some right handed relief pitching and outfield depth. I could see Thompson getting moved to allow Perez a spot, and I hate to say it, but I could also see Ankiel getting moved. I don’t know what you move them for as their doesn’t seem to be a real need at this point, but that can change over night. It is also a significant advantage to trade for prospects and build for the future.

Makes for an interesting present and future!

by Warcard on Apr 13, 2009 11:58 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Final year

I share your intrigue at the present and the future, to be sure.

The future also seems bright, but Glaus, Greene and Ankiel are possibly in their last year with the Cards.

I have an irrational need to see Rick Ankiel remain in St. Louis. Despite the fact that he is a poster child for why developing the farm system is the way to go, given his past, I have problems letting him go. That said, losing Ankiel is nothing to shed a tear over in baseball terms. We can slide Rasmus into the CF slot and get an immediate defensive upgrade. Then, Duncan and Mather or Barton platoon in LF, which I’m more than okay with.

Third base is a position that can be filled from within, as the start of the season has shown. Will the third base hyrdra approach work over the course of the whole season? We’ll see. That said, Freese has shown potential and I think that Brett Wallace could very well be big-league ready come Opening Day 2010. Losing Glaus’s $12MM salary is okay with me, especially with his injury tendancies.

Greene is a little bit different. The jury is still out on him, but he could be an economically viable mid-term solution at SS in the current market.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Apr 13, 2009 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sunday Night Baseball

I listened to the Cardinals game on the radio because I was driving to my aunt’s for Easter. However, I got home for most of the NL Central Edition of Sunday Night Baseball. A few thoughts from that game:

1) Only in Little League have I ever seen a team walk in four runs with the bases loaded. It was mind-boggling. I thought Macha’s head was going to explode right there in the dugout.

2) How thankful am I that the Cards did not sign Suppan to a four-year deal that pays him $12.5MM for this, his Age 34 Season and then $12.5MM for his Age 35 Season. Supps looked positively attrocious last night. (Maybe he will be delegated to AAA and give me a chance to complete my 2006 World Series pitchers autograph collection? Kidding…partly.)

3) The danger in that 3-year/$30MM contract for Milton Bradley surfaced last night when he felt tightness in his groin and had to be replaced by Reed Johnson. I doubt it’s anything major, but how long until it is?

4) Miller, Phillips and Morgan talking OPS like they were in 15th Century Spain, discussing “El Nuevo Mundo.” Then, Morgan pointing out how it can be unbalanced and distorted by a player with a high OBP and not much power. Amazing.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Apr 13, 2009 12:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Re #2

That could very well be Lohse in a few years.

(Why do I have to be so negative about the guy the day after he pitches the best game of his career? boo me.)

hecanthithecanthithecanthithecanthit

by Alxfritz on Apr 13, 2009 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

But, Lohse’s four-year deal covers his Age 30, 31, 32, and 33 seasons. Suppan’s covered his Age 32, 33, 34 and 35 seasons with an option for Age 36. I agree that by its end, we could and probably will, resent the contract, especially with where the market went. We absolutely could have gotten Lohse for three years, which would have been ideal. Still, I’d rather have the 4th year be an Age 33 season than an Age 35 season.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Apr 13, 2009 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is Suppan's option player or team?

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by jd is legend on Apr 13, 2009 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

gosh i hope it's team

i could only wish a contract like that on the cubs

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by lordsummer on Apr 13, 2009 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Club

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Apr 13, 2009 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

$2M buyout, though

yeesh.

- So, to ease his pain, you're supposed to take him to a ball game?
- Yes.

by SleepyCA on Apr 13, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Boo-urns?

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Apr 13, 2009 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i loved how Jon Miller

pronounced it “Ops” like Special-Ops instead of O-P-S

"I think he's the best hitter of all time. I think there has never been a better hitter than him. And I know I didn't see them all, but I just don't think there could be." - Adam Wainwright on The Mang

by bmorgan on Apr 13, 2009 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Then, Morgan pointing out how it can be unbalanced and distorted by a player with a high OBP and not much power."

You know what? I wouldn’t want it any other way. That’s just too perfect. If anything can make FireJoeMorgan come back for a reunion post or two it’s that.

by mattybobo on Apr 13, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

and how about

on Joe Morgan’s team the “pitcher bats 9th” no matter what. That’s why you don’t have a team Joe.

by eglasier on Apr 13, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That is why?

We should start a fanpost about all the reasons Joe Morgan doesn’t run a team.

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Apr 13, 2009 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

please

St. Louis Cardinals... defying win expectancy since 2008

by vivaelpujols on Apr 13, 2009 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

heh
Then, Morgan pointing out how it can be unbalanced and distorted by a player with a high OBP and not much power. Amazing.

That is the exact opposite. OBP is more important.

St. Louis Cardinals... defying win expectancy since 2008

by vivaelpujols on Apr 13, 2009 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i'm not sure where i read this

but i’ve heard that OBP is actually about 4 times more important than SLG.

by Phizzle on Apr 14, 2009 6:00 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re:suppan

I watched the game until Suppan exited but wow. All of his pitches looked similar with the fastball topping out at 88 and the change at 82 or so. (from memory) His slider didn’t have much to it and to top it off, he couldn’t find the zone even when he HAD to throw a strike. It was brutal.

by t7rick on Apr 13, 2009 12:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nope...

Johnson ROBBING Fielder of a GS was brutal!!

Sometimes I wonder,
"Why is that frisbee getting bigger?"

...and then it hits me!!

by cardzfanbub on Apr 13, 2009 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That was a sweet catch

Somehow I don’t think Bradley makes that catch (and if he tries it, he breaks into six or seven pieces)

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Mr Redbird @ Viva El Birdos
PowerOfDixieland @ Track Em Tigers, other SEC blogs

by jd is legend on Apr 13, 2009 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

JUST six or seven peices?

"Chuck Norris CAN divide by zero"

by elirock83 on Apr 13, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Opposing starters vs. Arizona

I saw where Webb was placed on the DL, so we won’t face him during our showdown in the desert, but we won’t face Dan Haren either, per Goold:

This week, the Cardinals are not scheduled to face Webb or Dan Haren. Scheduled to pitch against the Cardinals this week: LHP Doug Davis, RHP Mizzou Max Scherzer, RHP Jon Garland.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Apr 13, 2009 12:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He had a healthy platoon split last year

Sample size warning:

.167 .252 .263(!) against RHH
.319 .396 .418 against LHH

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Apr 13, 2009 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So, the lineup against Scherzer will be...

Skip, 2B
Rasmus, RF
Pujols, 1B
Duncan, LF
Ankiel, CF
Greene, SS
Thurston, 3B
Yadi, C

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Apr 13, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Ludwick sits out a game this series

I will go ape shit…and not that good kind of ape shit either…

"Baseball is dull only to dull minds." - Red Barber

by nomar34 on Apr 13, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gotta stay with the rotation

Who’s turn is it to be off today? Dunc or Raz

The only one who liked the Cardinals so much he became a St. Louis Cardinals football fan.

by coachnick39 on Apr 13, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dunc

With Razza being off against Scherzer

by Glowsticks on Apr 13, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

there is a good kind of apeshit?

I am there with ya though. I don’t have much hair left to pull out after this first week’s lineup.

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Apr 13, 2009 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you need to get out more, my friend...

"Baseball is dull only to dull minds." - Red Barber

by nomar34 on Apr 13, 2009 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

need my hair to grow back first

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Apr 13, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You may want to look up the stats

We have scored like 20 runs in the 2 games Luddy has sat. I do believe that TLR knows what he’s doing with the OF. Now explaining Barden getting playing time is another story.

The only one who liked the Cardinals so much he became a St. Louis Cardinals football fan.

by coachnick39 on Apr 13, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey

he was due.

hecanthithecanthithecanthithecanthit

by Alxfritz on Apr 14, 2009 6:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep

Atleast 2 out of 3 on the road…

by BigJawnMize on Apr 13, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Recent history hasn't been kind

the last two trips to AZ were 2007 – Ank PED news and 2008 rookie bullpen implosions

At least 2 of 3 would help erase those memories.

by ubeddie on Apr 13, 2009 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The "four-out" rule

I was just looking back through some write-ups of the past few D-backs games and saw this craziness, which raised a question for me:

So the Dodgers have runners on 2nd (Pierre) and 3rd (Ethier), one out. Haren catches a line drive right back at him. The runners were well on their way and Haren turns around and throws to our old buddy Felipe Lopez to double off Pierre. Ethier crosses the plate, and Floppy trots right past 2nd base and applies the tag to Pierre. OOOPS, now it’s not a force-out and the run counts.

Now, the run wouldn’t have counted had the D-backs made the appeal to third base for the “fourth out” (Ethier didn’t tag). My question is, how much time do you have to make that appeal? What demarcates the end of the inning?

by Andyfantastic on Apr 13, 2009 12:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ethier didn't tag up?

So, they must lose their right to appeal after the first pitch of the next inning is thrown?

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Apr 13, 2009 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You'd think that

But it sounds like the umps huddled up and invoked the four-out rule right after the play, so it must be sooner than that.

by Andyfantastic on Apr 13, 2009 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

once you leave the field

you forfeit the right to challenge.

- So, to ease his pain, you're supposed to take him to a ball game?
- Yes.

by SleepyCA on Apr 13, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Admittedly nitpicking here

But what constitutes “leaving the field?” All 9 guys out of fair territory? One guy in the dugout? Something else?

by Andyfantastic on Apr 13, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I listened to Steiner explain that from the rule book last night..

Infielders and pitcher leaving fair territory constitutes leaving the field. Outfielders can’t appeal a play at the bases.

Baseball Fever.... Catch it!

by skcabrozar on Apr 13, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cool.

Interesting game, this “base-ball.”

by Andyfantastic on Apr 13, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wonder if anyone is changing their tune on Lohse

he’s a perfect fit for the Cardinals, hence the 4 year deal. sure he might decline a little bit towards the end of it, but if he keeps this up there will be little to no controversy on the deal.

I think he’s become a great pitcher and will be in a ton of memorable starts going forward. congrats, Lohse.

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 13, 2009 1:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Complete game preceded by a 7 inning 3 (2E) run affair.

The Kool Aid ain’t always poisoned. I just don’t understand why so many people seem to want this guy to fail.

Would it be such a bad thing if he was actually worth the money paid?

Baseball Fever.... Catch it!

by skcabrozar on Apr 13, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I never really doubted that he could be effective for another year or two

4 years for just about any starting pitcher who will pass 30 years of age is kind of scary is all. I fully expect Lohse to perform this year. 2011 is about when I’ll start being more cautious with my optimism.

by mattybobo on Apr 13, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

nobody thinks it's a bad thing for him to succeed.

it’s just that we have our doubts that he will project to be as talented a pitcher for the second, third, and fourth seasons. that’s not being negative, just being realistic. it’s not a product of disliking kyle, but of looking at his track record rationally.

i’m sure that if he succeeds, most of his doubters will be happy for him and the team. and there’s nothing wrong with being excited about his prospects.

i am just a little bit cynical about some opinions, especially after reading people laud joel pineiro’s prospects yesterday and badmouth todd wellemeyer. i’m not sure how much is optimism and how much is just having a very short memory.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, then you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on Apr 13, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well put

But it sticks in my craw a bit to hear so “swallow the KoolAid” type comments when the is 2-0 with an ERA under 3. Nobody wants to be optimistic anymore I guess.

I’m not above negativity either…. I was one of the people defending the booers last Monday. I guess it’s catching.

Baseball Fever.... Catch it!

by skcabrozar on Apr 13, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

not negative at all

i just dont think we can and should expect this to be his performance level going forward. nothing in his track record shows this as his true talent level. can he be a decent pitcher, even worth the dollars he is getting? sure. lets not write him into the cy young award just yet.

and for the record I am more worried about Welle’s regression this year than I am in Lohse’s

by FunkeeC on Apr 13, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Welley

Yeah, based on periphs and the like, that’s gonna be much more stressful I think than Lohse, at least to start out.

by mattybobo on Apr 13, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

how are his mechanics?

if they are really fluid, then he should be more durable, and more effective for a longer period of time. plus, there is such a thing as late-bloomers

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 13, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

two games is an extremely small sample size.

i can make almost any pitcher look good by picking out two games.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, then you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on Apr 13, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

2 games + last season

isn’t such a small sample size, although it could be bigger. I really think Duncan has found a new wonder-project

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 13, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe we need

a rule of thumb at VEB. For 24 hours after a starter throws a CGSO, his contract is exempt from criticism. At hour 25, wail away.

by MdRedbirdFreak on Apr 13, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep, maybe we could get the

naysayers to just throw a simple acronym into their posts, something like IRTTLCWIA (I really think the lohse contract was ill-advised) in place of a lot of verbiage to that effect. Then we could move on and talk about some new ideas.

by MdRedbirdFreak on Apr 13, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

like

why they think he will not be effective at age 33 or whatever… it’s not like he will be ancient

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 13, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

2 good starts...

…at the front of a 4 year deal doesn’t prove anything. We’re talking about 2 of roughly 120 starts that Lohse will be paid to make here over the course of that contract.

"Your Holiness, I'm Joseph Medwick. I, too, used to be a Cardinal."-Joe Medwick, to Pope Pius XII.

by redbirdnation8206 on Apr 13, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Understatement of the year

Dan went to the game with some friends? Some friends? Some friends? Some friends?

Dan went to the game with his best friends.

by ajabegg on Apr 13, 2009 1:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Dan's mom was at the game too.

She was in her good seats close to the field. Dan can have them anytime he wants. I could see the pitchers just fine.

by momup on Apr 13, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This sounds like an argument between

Marshall and Barney.

hecanthithecanthithecanthithecanthit

by Alxfritz on Apr 13, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

awesome

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Apr 13, 2009 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't know if anyone else saw this

But ESPN is debuting ESPNChicago.com today. While the Chicago version obviously doesn’t play well to Cards fans, I assume this will spawn ESPNStLouis at some point (or at least ESPNMissouri?) It’s a pretty cool idea; just seeing what everyone thinks. Oh, and here’s the link.

"I think he's the best hitter of all time. I think there has never been a better hitter than him. And I know I didn't see them all, but I just don't think there could be." - Adam Wainwright on The Mang

by bmorgan on Apr 13, 2009 1:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I love it

A STL version would be nice, but I love the concept.

by t7rick on Apr 13, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No college teams are included

in the Chicago site, and there are 6 pro teams listed. St. Louis would probably be hard-pressed since it would consist of Cardinals, Blues, and Rams….? It would probably have to be ESPNMissouri and include St. Louis and Kansas City, I would presume.

"I think he's the best hitter of all time. I think there has never been a better hitter than him. And I know I didn't see them all, but I just don't think there could be." - Adam Wainwright on The Mang

by bmorgan on Apr 13, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

high school games!

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Soccer

We will be getting a woman’s MLS team this year and hopefully a men’s team soon. But I agree that a MO one would be cool to follow all of the MO pro sports

"People call me El Hombre," Pujols said. "But only Stan is the Man."

by StLHugo on Apr 13, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

soccer?

this is America

by STLRegalia on Apr 13, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Careful now

There seem to be VEBers who like that sport for some reason. I think all 2 US soccer fans post here.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Apr 13, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You know, for some reason soccer was THE game growing up for me until middle school.

Soccer appears to have this weird following in St. Louis where it’s very popular for kids to play, but vanishes after highschool or something.
Also, I was lucky enough to watch Lazio/Roma the other day one somebody else’s satellite, and it was the bee’s knees.

by mattybobo on Apr 13, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

it's because children are young and naive

(I played soccer til freshman yr of high school then switched to football. don’t tell anybody)

by STLRegalia on Apr 13, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

When I was young and

in shape I played in the St. Louis Ultimate Frisbee League, which was huge, maybe the biggest in the country at the time. It was jam-packed with guys who had grown up playing soccer in STL. After high school I guess all those guys turned in their soccer balls for doo-rags, 165-gram Wham-O’s (and bongs, at least on my team).

by MdRedbirdFreak on Apr 13, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good observation

Soccer appears to have this weird following in St. Louis where it’s very popular for kids to play, but vanishes after highschool or something.

That’s really true. My 12 year old daughter hung the game up 2 years ago. Before that, she lived for soccer. ALL, and I mean ALLLLLLLL of the kids in her age group played it. Now, I don’t think more than 2 of her friends and 15 of her classmates stuck with it. It’s like that age 8-10 period just kills interest in the sport or something.

"Your Holiness, I'm Joseph Medwick. I, too, used to be a Cardinal."-Joe Medwick, to Pope Pius XII.

by redbirdnation8206 on Apr 13, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My guess is

Once you reach a certain age, a factor in playing soccer competitively is your conditioning level. I noticed it around 13 when in middle school I was required to run sprints, mile tests, and other various drills within certain times in order to make the team. I know it’s like this in other sports too, but I think it may begin a little earlier with soccer, since 99% of the game is comprised of constantly running/sprinting. It may just be that at a certain point, it becomes more of a chore for some kids to try and keep up at that level and they begin to lose interest.

Patiently awaiting the day Colby Rasmus does this: .275/.381/.551/.932, 29HR, in St. Louis...

by RunninRedbird on Apr 13, 2009 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also us exile Brits

Who understand that the game is truly called Association Football.

by realbrit70 on Apr 13, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Che cosa???

Il gioco si chiama “calcio”!

by mattybobo on Apr 13, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

present!

capital letters suck.

by soccerfreak on Apr 13, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I count myself as one of them

Well, a fan in the sense that I like to watch important international games (i.e. UEFA Champion’s League games, World Cup Finals) but won’t go out of my way to watch a soccer game. There are things I love about the game and things I HATE (seriously, how can you suffer cataclysmic injuries that look like combinations of torn ACL/MCL, pulled hamstring, broken ankle, torn Achilles, smashed testicle, torn cerebral cortex and snapped brain stem…and yet play seconds later? Perplexing).

"Your Holiness, I'm Joseph Medwick. I, too, used to be a Cardinal."-Joe Medwick, to Pope Pius XII.

by redbirdnation8206 on Apr 13, 2009 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the thing about soccer

is that its a very fun sport, and little kids are all about fun.

then, when those little kids turn into adolescents, they care less about fun and more about popularity. since soccer isn’t glamorous like football, basketball, or baseball, it falls by the wayside.

the only people who continue playing after that are those who were insanely skilled for even their young age group. even the nerds quit soccer because it’s not cool.

by longhornscardinals on Apr 13, 2009 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep

One of ’em right here!

Patiently awaiting the day Colby Rasmus does this: .275/.381/.551/.932, 29HR, in St. Louis...

by RunninRedbird on Apr 13, 2009 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, this is America

Which is why StLHugo typed “soccer” and not “football.”

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Apr 13, 2009 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It is an interesting concept...

What will they do first?
ESPNNewyork.com
ESPNChicago.com
ESPNLosAngeles.com

Test those markets and decide how to handle others?

by ICbirdfan on Apr 13, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They're going after the regional sports markets

Like the Yanks and Sox have been doing for years. Sort of smart, sort of scary.

defy, cards, defy. hey logic --- you suck.

by effin fisk on Apr 13, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

well if they do that

they really won’t need the plain old ESPN.com. Those three are all of the cities that really matter anyway.

Wait, isn’t ESPN.com really ESPNNEWENGLAND.com

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Apr 13, 2009 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like the idea

and all my j-school friends are terrified that ESPN has just killed newspapers, but until ESPN can develop a website that doesn’t bog down my year-old MacBook Pro I don’t think the worldwide leader will be the one to do it. ESPN.com is my website of last resort.

by DanUpBaby on Apr 13, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

viva es muy better....

than anything espn can put together (unless they buy out our fearless moderators..)

by cdb on Apr 13, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I, for one, am extremely excited about Chris Duncan

starting to hit lefties. I know that it is small sample size, but if he is gonna drive the ball(I realize he may hit for a lil less power)vs. lefties, he becomes a legitimate weapon in that OF. Even if it is for 7 innings.

And…I love our 4 OF’s, and I’m all for the different guy gets a day off every day rotation.

The only one who liked the Cardinals so much he became a St. Louis Cardinals football fan.

by coachnick39 on Apr 13, 2009 1:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Best day ever

Just got a package from my mom. Inside were tickets to all 3 games when the Cards come to L.A. in August, along with parking vouchers for each night. Happy birthday to me!

defy, cards, defy. hey logic --- you suck.

by effin fisk on Apr 13, 2009 1:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Don't forget your Manny wig

errrr, um I mean…

Hey look!!! What’s that over there

by streamman on Apr 13, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Barton wig?

defy, cards, defy. hey logic --- you suck.

by effin fisk on Apr 13, 2009 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh yes!!

That’s what I meant I was confused…. but wait, barden has funky hair?

by streamman on Apr 13, 2009 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

slur it

The only one who liked the Cardinals so much he became a St. Louis Cardinals football fan.

by coachnick39 on Apr 13, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Offfff topic: RIP Harry Kalas

That man had a voice.

hecanthithecanthithecanthithecanthit

by Alxfritz on Apr 13, 2009 2:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes indeed.

Sad day for all who had the luxury of hearing him call a game. I will definitely miss his voice.

The only one who liked the Cardinals so much he became a St. Louis Cardinals football fan.

by coachnick39 on Apr 13, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I always like listening to him, although i think i have heard him do more football games than baseball games. How could some one not like listening to him?

"Chuck Norris CAN divide by zero"

by elirock83 on Apr 13, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

it may have been

the voice…there were announcers who I thought were better but his voice was king of them all, imo

"Baseball is dull only to dull minds." - Red Barber

by nomar34 on Apr 13, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Very well said

The only one who liked the Cardinals so much he became a St. Louis Cardinals football fan.

by coachnick39 on Apr 13, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

your "the voice"

made me think of field of dreams, If you ever watch the credits it says: The Voice – Himself.

 

"Chuck Norris CAN divide by zero"

by elirock83 on Apr 13, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the most interesting thing of the day

(after having to wait over 24 hours to see more cardinal baseball) will be to see how Welley fares vs. the Diamondbacks, should be a good team for him to rebound against.

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 13, 2009 2:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I really hope he does well

especially since he’ll be pitching on Saturday when I go to see the Cards vs. Cubs game, should be interesting

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 13, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll be in Arizona this week.

I think I will go to Wednesday’s game. I’ll be there to represent all of you at VEB.

by momup on Apr 13, 2009 2:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

"Oh, come on Ump! Evident the frickin' wash!!!"

“Hey Tony, Ludwick is an everyday player!”

by mattybobo on Apr 13, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

"HEY BOOG TAKE A PITCH"

Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.

he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.

by bearcatcardfan on Apr 13, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If momup does that

I will reimburse her for the price of the tickets!

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Apr 13, 2009 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

great

I’ll cover the other two games. I have to work during the Wednesday game or I’d be there to share the load with you.

by hex706f726368 on Apr 13, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cubs in a rain delay

so they are gonna interview their radio voices…Ron Santo is gonna yell and be annoying

The only one who liked the Cardinals so much he became a St. Louis Cardinals football fan.

by coachnick39 on Apr 13, 2009 2:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't know that there has ever been

a non-annoying Cubs announcer. Radio or WGN

Baseball Fever.... Catch it!

by skcabrozar on Apr 13, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Would you eat the moon if it was made out of barbecue spare ribs?

I know I would.

"I think he's the best hitter of all time. I think there has never been a better hitter than him. And I know I didn't see them all, but I just don't think there could be." - Adam Wainwright on The Mang

by bmorgan on Apr 13, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

its made of cheese

mmmm…cheese

The only one who liked the Cardinals so much he became a St. Louis Cardinals football fan.

by coachnick39 on Apr 13, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you could be the top scientist in your field or have mad cow disease, which would you choose?

by thp0344 on Apr 13, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh good

i was afraid you were going to say mad cow

R.P.O.F.Y.M.

by BVHeck on Apr 13, 2009 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's not rocket science

Just say “yes” and we’ll move on.

Patiently awaiting the day Colby Rasmus does this: .275/.381/.551/.932, 29HR, in St. Louis...

by RunninRedbird on Apr 13, 2009 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I now like Steve Stone

he got fired by the cubs for being too critical of cub players and it was hurting their feelings. He is now with the White Sox and talks about how nice it is to be there.

The only one who liked the Cardinals so much he became a St. Louis Cardinals football fan.

by coachnick39 on Apr 13, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i liked steve stone, too

he did a pretty decent job under the circumstances.

How depressing is it being you? Is it closer to being a lifelong cubs fan or being born without lips? - Janitor

by themanthemyth on Apr 13, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can think of one...

but he used to be a Cards announcer so does he count?

"People call me El Hombre," Pujols said. "But only Stan is the Man."

by StLHugo on Apr 13, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I only know of one man who would qualify

as an announcer for both teams

The only one who liked the Cardinals so much he became a St. Louis Cardinals football fan.

by coachnick39 on Apr 13, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This guy?

"People call me El Hombre," Pujols said. "But only Stan is the Man."

by StLHugo on Apr 13, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

turned tables?
Caray quickly became popular with the South Side faithful and enjoyed a reputation for joviality and public carousing (sometimes doing home game broadcasts bare-topped from the bleachers). He wasn’t always popular with players, however; Caray had an equivalent reputation of being excessively critical of home team blunders and for continuing criticism of certain players after even one on-field mistake

didn’t someone say that’s why stone went to the sox?

by STLRegalia on Apr 13, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes that is why Stone was fired

he didn’t go directly to the Sox though.

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by coachnick39 on Apr 13, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

pirates are crushing Brian Moehler

Most fans I’ve ever seen in PNC park for a Pirates game

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by coachnick39 on Apr 13, 2009 2:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Point and Giggle inside

laugh at the end of the month

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by coachnick39 on Apr 13, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i'd say it's even money on whether the pirates finish last this year.

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by tom s. on Apr 13, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Astros

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by coachnick39 on Apr 13, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm starting to feel bad for the Astros

but not that bad.

I have a love/hate relationship with the Cardinals' middle relief corps.

by madding on Apr 13, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

6-0 Pirates over the Astros

in the 3rd

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by coachnick39 on Apr 13, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd rather the second division teams beat up on each other

and split season series’. That’s presuming the Bucs are a second division club. I’d like to see Houston not give games away to the Cards’ division rivals. FWIW, the Astros will probably figure out how to swing the bat again…. Just hope it’s against Chicago and Milwaukee.

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by skcabrozar on Apr 13, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't feel bad

They refuse to admit that they suck. They need a reality check, from the fans to the media to the manager to the front office. They’re going to have to tank hard sooner or later, might as well be now.

by mojowo11 on Apr 13, 2009 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I listen to Houston sports radio every day

And there is no doubt the fans (such that you can lump everyone together) and the media (the sports radio hosts and newspaper guys) know how much the Stros suck.

by Willie McGee's Twin on Apr 13, 2009 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i said in the astros

review that they would be last in the central, and it might not even be close

"Chuck Norris CAN divide by zero"

by elirock83 on Apr 13, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't you know...

…They turn it on in the 2nd half. They do every year, so they’re just banking on that whole thing. I mean, it’s because of their team, or something…

tongue inserted very firmly in cheek in this post

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by redbirdnation8206 on Apr 13, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Small Sample Alert But...

Fangraphs has already released their initial UZR numbers. I wanted to see how Schumaker was doing so far. He is already negative 2.9 runs. My first reaction was holy shit he has already been 3 runs bad on his D so far. Than I noticed something

2B: -0.6 Runs
LF: -2.3 Runs

So he is just doing slightly bad at 2B but horrible in LF. Is him getting switched back and forth from 2B to LF making him worst in the OF? Possibly. A small sample size but something to keep an eye on regardless.

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by FlimtotheFlam on Apr 13, 2009 2:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

MGL last year

Said UZR was basically worthless after 40 games let alone 7…

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Apr 13, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

2 seasons of defensive data has the same reliability as 1 season of

offensive data, roughly. I wouldn’t look at much more than OOZ right now and I wouldn’t put much stock into it.

by azruavatar on Apr 13, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And even then

As Dave Cameron aptly put it, defensive stats are still like UZR in that there’s a whole lot of noise in there as well. They’re very useful in that they give you a picture, but it’s a fuzzy one—-and 7 games is an ink blot test.

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by joker24 on Apr 13, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

whats albert's UZR

it seemed he had a couple of ridiculus plays

Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.

he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.

by bearcatcardfan on Apr 13, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

0.3

"People call me El Hombre," Pujols said. "But only Stan is the Man."

by StLHugo on Apr 13, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Beat me to it

Besides, I could be wrong, but isn’t Skip’s defense in the outfield a little overrated? My cursory look at fangraphs shows some up-and-down UZR numbers, for one thing. Possible sample size problems abound.

by mattybobo on Apr 13, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

he’s kind of short for an outfielder I think

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 13, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Images of Princess Leia

in her cell in the Death Star came to mind when reading that.

Baseball Fever.... Catch it!

by skcabrozar on Apr 13, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That must be

for that ball he shoulda tracked down in the 9th on Opening Day. Colby woulda had it!

Patiently awaiting the day Colby Rasmus does this: .275/.381/.551/.932, 29HR, in St. Louis...

by RunninRedbird on Apr 13, 2009 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It must be miserable to be at Wrigley right now

no one looks comfortable

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by coachnick39 on Apr 13, 2009 3:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Do they ever?

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by joker24 on Apr 13, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

my comment was weather related

but you are correct…i don’t think they do

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by coachnick39 on Apr 13, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you think they'll play today?

that would be a welcome distraction

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by bmorgan on Apr 13, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

gettin ready to right now

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by coachnick39 on Apr 13, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chicago is horrid right now

the weather is absolutely atrocious, so glad I’m not going to a game there until Saturday afternoon

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 13, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I grew up in Northwest Indiana(the Region)

so I understand the yuckiness that is Chicago weather this time of year. Kinda glad we are pitching Carp at Arizona and not the Cubs.

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by coachnick39 on Apr 13, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you go by days off yes

if you go by games, then I believe that he would start the first game after the Cubs series. I think that TLR will err on the side of caution. On the other hand….I could be wrong.

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by coachnick39 on Apr 13, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

over at espn

they have him scheduled to pitch on Sunday… plus I heard that they started him a little later in the season so he could pitch in this series

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 13, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sweet!

I just guessed they would be careful with him & the cold Chicago night weather. I hope that he pitches his ass off against the Cubs. I was at the game last year when Carp made his last start. It was at Wrigley.

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by coachnick39 on Apr 13, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

FWIW

It’s pretty miserable in the Lou today, too. Cold and wet.

by mojowo11 on Apr 13, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the first two weeks of the season

should be played in either california or florida, or in cities with domed stadiums, etc, imo. It’s silly to play outside in chicago in April.

- So, to ease his pain, you're supposed to take him to a ball game?
- Yes.

by SleepyCA on Apr 13, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you move to Phoenix...

its hot. But it never really rains or has any weather of any type really. (Monsoon season notwithstanding)

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by coachnick39 on Apr 13, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And when you are in Phoenix, go visit Mill Ave.

The Hooters there has misters on their outside patio. So you have Hooter girls in the regular uniform, serving you wings and there is a mist on them. NICE!!!!!!!!!

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by coachnick39 on Apr 13, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wasn't sure what the technical name for devices that spray mist was

but I thought once you got it, you would like the idea

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by coachnick39 on Apr 13, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah...

I’m not into a Hooters with “misters”. I like the ladies myself.

Sometimes I wonder,
"Why is that frisbee getting bigger?"

...and then it hits me!!

by cardzfanbub on Apr 13, 2009 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My friend who goes to school at U of Arizona

…says that it’s basically like living in a blow drier.

by mojowo11 on Apr 13, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No one should go to U of A

We should have left Tuscon in Mexico…

Live in Phoenix/Tempe/Glendale

GO DEVILS!!!!!

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by coachnick39 on Apr 13, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So what you are saying...

…is that all teams not in warm weather climes have to start the year on two week road trips. Methinks that might present a bit of a competitive advantage. Furthermore, that means that no teams outside of CA, AZ, FL or the like would ever get to open the season at home.

I have heard this argument before…usually from John Kruk or his ilk.

by indakind on Apr 13, 2009 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

they still play the same number of home/away games

and half the teams start the season on road trips anyway.

- So, to ease his pain, you're supposed to take him to a ball game?
- Yes.

by SleepyCA on Apr 13, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So the same teams....

…get to open the season at home every year. No joyful opening day in STL where the weather is iffy. So these cold weather clime teams that just spent 6 weeks plus away from their homes and families at ST now get to take a two week 12-13 game road trip to start the year….while the warm weather teams get to go home and settle in for a nice long home stand. Yes ultimately all teams play the same number of road and home games but very rarely do teams have two week road trips and for roughly half the teams to start their seasons with marathon road trips is inherently unfair.

by indakind on Apr 13, 2009 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

STL has had opening day alot lately

When was the last season we started on the road?

"People call me El Hombre," Pujols said. "But only Stan is the Man."

by StLHugo on Apr 13, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

but then they will have more home games

in the stretch run, which I think makes up for it. And it reduces the number of games you’d have to play in florida and texas in august, which is a nice feature.

 I think the real effect this would have is that more teams would build domed stadiums.

- So, to ease his pain, you're supposed to take him to a ball game?
- Yes.

by SleepyCA on Apr 13, 2009 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kevin Gregg got booed

during opening day introductions

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by coachnick39 on Apr 13, 2009 3:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What kind of fans boo the new closer on opening day?

Oh yeah, we do.

defy, cards, defy. hey logic --- you suck.

by effin fisk on Apr 13, 2009 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

I was thinking about that after I posted it, and it seems like the Cards fans have been starting to act like Cubs fans… maybe all the Cubs fans visiting when the Cubs are in town are rubbing off on them, nnoooooooo

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 13, 2009 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Russ Ortiz in the game for Houston

out of the pen.

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by coachnick39 on Apr 13, 2009 3:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The Astros might not be much of a baseball team

But they seem to have discovered time travel, so I give them credit for contribution to society.

by mojowo11 on Apr 13, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

36 degrees and rainy at Wrigley with wind

yuck…Go Rockies

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by coachnick39 on Apr 13, 2009 3:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Are the Rockies still an MLB team?

Huh, good for them…seriously though has any team gone from pennant winner to afterthought so quickly?

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by nomar34 on Apr 13, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How about

the 98 and 04 Florida Marlins?

VEB recognition alert. I Googled the Marlins WS Championship years and check out the top link. VEB was the first hit on the search.

GO VEB!

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Apr 13, 2009 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Warning: Unrelated post to follow.....

Not sure if this has been discussed here yet as I have been gone the last few days, but I thought was Josh Beckett did yesterday was pretty bush-league.

I have feeling there will be more sparks between these two teams as the season plays out.

Again, I apologize if this has been discussed somewhere else. H

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by tangledbrett on Apr 13, 2009 3:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't think so whatsoever

He was throwing an elevated fastball to begin with, his timing got thrown off he landed too soon and it sailed on him. It wasn’t even close to Abreu.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Apr 13, 2009 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe that is true

but you can’t say that isn’t even close to Abreu. If you pause it when it goes by his head, it is pretty close.

And I say England's greatest prime minister was Lord Palmerston.

by tangledbrett on Apr 13, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No closer than an inside pitch

It got way up, it got kinda inside. It wasn’t close to hitting him.

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by joker24 on Apr 13, 2009 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i agree -- he seems to be moving before the ump signs for time. I can see it could be hard to stop.

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by tom s. on Apr 13, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he is. but you can sort of see the ball fly out of beckett's hand, as if he's startled.

the ball takes a crazy arc. looks like he tried to stop and just released it too early.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, then you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on Apr 13, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I got too distracted after the bullpens started running out.

is that really a necessary procedure? It just looks goofy to me for the 30 seconds it takes for them to get to the stare down. If they really want to be part of the brew-ha, they should meet in centerfield for a bullpen fight

by STLRegalia on Apr 13, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kyle Farnsworth

doesn’t make it look goofy, I’ll give him that much.

by liam on Apr 13, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What a douchebag

I wish he was on our team

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by jd is legend on Apr 13, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Aaron Miles leaping catch

Bob Brenly: “When one guy leaps to make a catch, everybody jumps to help him make the play.” Yes, he said that.

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by coachnick39 on Apr 13, 2009 3:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

it would have been better if he had said something to the effect of:

“While Miles had to leap to catch that most humans would haul it in at chest level…”

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by nomar34 on Apr 13, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Off subject

Does anybody know what khalil Greene’s intro song is? It is killing me inside!

by hghallstar on Apr 13, 2009 3:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Shut up and let me go---by the Ting Tings

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by coachnick39 on Apr 13, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

seriously?

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I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson

by gdm426 on Apr 14, 2009 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Off subject

Does anybody know what khalil Greene’s intro song is? It is killing me inside!

by hghallstar on Apr 13, 2009 3:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Fog rolling in at Wrigley

according to Len Kasper

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by coachnick39 on Apr 13, 2009 4:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Lastings Milledge wears a double earflap helmet

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by coachnick39 on Apr 13, 2009 4:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Taking up switch-hitting?

Miss Lippy’s car is green

by liam on Apr 13, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Question about Busch

Has anyone sat in the Redbird Club? I was wondering what it was like, how is it different from normal seats, etc. My wife and I are trying to decide where to buy tickets this season and weren’t sure what made it special.

"People call me El Hombre," Pujols said. "But only Stan is the Man."

by StLHugo on Apr 13, 2009 4:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Redbird Club

It’s nice. There are a lot of different food choices not available everywhere else (I don’t think anyways), short beer and bathroom lines, and pretty good seats. You have to pay for the food and drink though (unlike some other club seats at busch).

by thp0344 on Apr 13, 2009 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So basically

it just has its own private restaurants and restrooms? Sounds good, I knew it wasn’t all inclusive but I wasn’t sure what it had that made it a “club”

"People call me El Hombre," Pujols said. "But only Stan is the Man."

by StLHugo on Apr 13, 2009 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Has anyone here used TVAnts to watch a baseball game?

TVAnts is a P2P program for watching live broadcasts. I have used it in the past but their was no one uploading Cardinal Games. Now there is someone doing it this year. I am curious if anyone has this season. I am going to try it tonight and will post my results.

If you are curious about it check it out here at

http://www.myp2p.eu/

Stat Whore

by FlimtotheFlam on Apr 13, 2009 4:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i watched some of the WBC on that

IE the games that were MLB Network, because Time Warner didn’t have the MLBN set up yet where i live.

The games usually got shut down pretty quickly, and werent great quality, but they worked. We need to figure out a way to get saturday games on there.

- So, to ease his pain, you're supposed to take him to a ball game?
- Yes.

by SleepyCA on Apr 13, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is there any way to Watch Fox Games on MLB.tv?

Is it just because you are in the wrong market or no games are shown?

Stat Whore

by FlimtotheFlam on Apr 13, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you can't watch Fox games on MLB.tv I wouldn't think

since those are “national” broadcasts so even if they are broadcasting two games I think both get national blackouts

"People call me El Hombre," Pujols said. "But only Stan is the Man."

by StLHugo on Apr 13, 2009 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

everything is blacked out on mlb.tv

and the Fox game is never the cardinals.

- So, to ease his pain, you're supposed to take him to a ball game?
- Yes.

by SleepyCA on Apr 13, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Since Saturday....But I got 2 games in the next 30 days

Over and ESPN360 their is 2 Cardinal Games vs Cubs and Mets.

Sun, Apr 19 8:00PM MLB MLB: St. Louis Cardinals vs. Chicago Cubs
Wed, Apr 22 8:00PM MLB MLB: New York Mets vs. St. Louis Cardinals

ESPN 360

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by FlimtotheFlam on Apr 13, 2009 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

TV Ants

Someone posted to check out the channel brewcrew right around the 6th inning of Saturday;s game. It was not the best but definitely watchable quality. Feed was a good 2 or 3 minutes behind gameday.

by El Hombre on Apr 13, 2009 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

mlb.tv just said that he couldn't figure out where I was located

so it just assumed that it would be blacked out. I did notice that mlb.tv premium you can get espn games, they should add in the fox games too

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 13, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you will never get fox games on MLB.TV

espn yes, fox no

which sucks cause i’m here in socal and will never get one broadcast locally unless and earthquake destroys chavez ravine and the big A

by FunkeeC on Apr 13, 2009 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

while we're polling, how do people like the ktrs internet radio feed?

I was thinking about getting it. maybe I’ll be more productive if I listen on headphones than if i constantly check gameday.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, then you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on Apr 13, 2009 4:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I have used it in the past and was happy with it

I have Sprint and I can used it on my cell phone for a few bucks each month. My phone has decent enough speakers and I was satisfied with it.

Stat Whore

by FlimtotheFlam on Apr 13, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

works good for me

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Apr 13, 2009 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Julian Tavares is warming in the Nats bullpen

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by coachnick39 on Apr 13, 2009 4:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

zach duke

he just four hit the astros. at least lohse only gave up three

Smell the Glove

by emrfg8 on Apr 13, 2009 4:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i think that is more a testament to the Astros line-up

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by bmorgan on Apr 13, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

seriously

Dukes career BAA is .302

St. Louis Cardinals... defying win expectancy since 2008

by vivaelpujols on Apr 13, 2009 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm pretty sure Sidney Ponson would have put up at least a 7 IP 1 ER line

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by jd is legend on Apr 13, 2009 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am now watching Phillies-Nats

what the hell is my problem

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by coachnick39 on Apr 13, 2009 4:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

And Rob Dibble does color for the Nats??

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by coachnick39 on Apr 13, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Vin Scully is awesome...

and I think its funny to watch Randy Johnson attempt to hit

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by coachnick39 on Apr 13, 2009 4:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm mighty sad that it's his last year with the Dodgers

He’s a class act.

defy, cards, defy. hey logic --- you suck.

by effin fisk on Apr 13, 2009 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

say it ain't so!

i thought he had two more seasons on his deal?

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by gdm426 on Apr 14, 2009 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ubaldo Jimenez

Ubaldo Jimenez literally cannot throw strikes sometimes. I’m watching him throw in what appears to be the worst day in Chicago weather history, and he is literally missing spots by feet. Not inches. Not a foot. FEET.

He reminds me of this guy:

With that said, he’s got some seriously nasty stuff. I can’t imagine he’s easy to hit, considering he throws upper-90’s with some mean secondary pitches. I’d happily take him on the Cardinals.

"Your Holiness, I'm Joseph Medwick. I, too, used to be a Cardinal."-Joe Medwick, to Pope Pius XII.

by redbirdnation8206 on Apr 13, 2009 4:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ted Lilly has a no-hitter thru 6

He’s walked one and struck out 7, but his pitch count is at 87, so i doubt he could get thru 9.

And if you think I’m trying to jinx him by talking about it, you might be right.

"I think he's the best hitter of all time. I think there has never been a better hitter than him. And I know I didn't see them all, but I just don't think there could be." - Adam Wainwright on The Mang

by bmorgan on Apr 13, 2009 5:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

and he's handsome too?

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by tom s. on Apr 13, 2009 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

aww that's too bad now isn't it!

And I thought He was gonna do it….

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by albrtfn on Apr 13, 2009 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh darn

still sucks that the cubs had a shoutout though. booo lilly!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 13, 2009 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're Welcome, Ted

Rockies get a single in the top of the 7th. No-hitter is done.

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by bmorgan on Apr 13, 2009 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

With three runs, Chicago is definitely going to win the game

There is no way they can lose

/jinxing

Testicle-exploding shit storm, circa 7/12/08 - We will never forget!

by bjork24 on Apr 13, 2009 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Cubs have the best bullpen in at least a century

Blowing a 3-0 lead in their home opener is the most far-fetched thing I can imagine

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by bmorgan on Apr 13, 2009 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

it's a good thing we pair wellemeyer against davis today.

we beat up on davis better than any other NL team except the brewers, his handedness notwithstanding. we have a .853 OPS against him in 15 games.

on the other hand, wellemeyer really sucks against the d-backs (1.119 OPS against — that’s like a team full of pujolses) and at their field (.890 OPS against). given that and welly’s first outing, I predict a crazy offensive game today.

my prediction: 11-8 Cards win.

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by tom s. on Apr 13, 2009 5:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

just to contradict you

1-0 Cards :)

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by vivaelpujols on Apr 13, 2009 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ok

I think I am going to the bar (sedgwick’s) tonight to watch the game, it should be interesting, high scoring craziness

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 13, 2009 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tonights Lineups

Barden 2b
Greene ss
Pujols 1b
Ludwick rf
Duncan lf
Freese 3b
Ankiel cf
LaRue c
Welley p

Snakes

Lopez 2b
Young CF
Drew SS
Jackson LF
Tracy 1b
Reynolds 3b
Upton RF
Snyder C
Davis P

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by coachnick39 on Apr 13, 2009 6:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

if there's ever a time to bust out a rasmus-starts-in-cf lineup, this is it.

colby could definitely save us a couple of runs in the outfield in AZ during this series. with welly on the mound, we’re going to need grade A outfield defense today.

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by tom s. on Apr 13, 2009 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Does anyone else LOVE having someone like Ankiel as our 7th place hitter?

Its oh so much better than having Kennedy or Miles there, or in the 6th spot.

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by miniboscorino on Apr 13, 2009 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd rather see Greene there

Seems like an ideal spot in the lineup for Khalil

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by jd is legend on Apr 13, 2009 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I love the parts that can go into our lineup

with the exception of Barden, everyone else excites me a little bit.

Even LaRue, he will swing really hard, sometimes he hits it, and he provides funny comments on VEB

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by coachnick39 on Apr 13, 2009 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

When Larue hits it

It probably evokes funny comments from the other team’s fans too. Similar to the funny comments Bennett got from Cub’s fans a few years ago..!

by fuegophil on Apr 13, 2009 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Snow Cones.

by liam on Apr 13, 2009 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, but I hate seeing Greene and Barden 1 and 2

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by vivaelpujols on Apr 13, 2009 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Barf

This is my least favorite lineup of the season thus far

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by jd is legend on Apr 13, 2009 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Situational Substitutions

are the reason TLR likes the expanded rosters of September

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by coachnick39 on Apr 13, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

there are at least 3 better #2 hitters in that lineup than greene.

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by tom s. on Apr 13, 2009 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

crap

he’s playing Greene at #2 still? lame. I’d rather see him at #6 or maybe even #5 than the 2 spot

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 13, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

TLR is taunting us

now we get David Freese starting, but Rasmus sits and Greene is batting 2nd, ugh

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 13, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Might sound crazy, but I wouldn't mind

seeing TLR putting Freese in the 2 hole for a game. Maybe it’ll get him jump started. But I think that our best lineup has Rick/Ras in that spot

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by coachnick39 on Apr 13, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

not sure about Rick

but definitely for Rasmus, by the time the season is over I think he’ll be playing there regularly, at least, I would hope so after 1 week anyway.

Freese sounds like he would take to batting 2nd, who knows I’m not even sure what to expect from the guy since he’s hardly played in ST or the regular season

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 13, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I do like that TLR puts a struggling guy in the 2 hole to get him going

it might be time for Rick to be there. All in all, our biggest success was when Dunc was mashing the ball out of the 2 hole.

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by coachnick39 on Apr 13, 2009 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

it’s early enough that I don’t mind the lineup shuffling, etc. but I wish he would settle on some kind of regularity later in the season

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 13, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

TLR cannot do regularity

not in his nature…he’d get bored

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by coachnick39 on Apr 13, 2009 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i count 5...

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by nomar34 on Apr 13, 2009 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like the looks of Citi Field

I hate the Mets

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by coachnick39 on Apr 13, 2009 7:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I like Citi Field more than Yankee Stadium thus far

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by miniboscorino on Apr 13, 2009 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The people who designed Citi had fewer limits than the people who designed New Yankee

In other words, the designers of New Yankee Stadium had to preserve some of the design looks of Old Yankee Stadium, as well as traditional things like Monument Park, etc. The designers of Citi Field had pretty much free reign to do what they’d like. All I can see that carried over from Shea is the HR Apple.

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by jd is legend on Apr 13, 2009 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Touche

But still, my point is valid

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by jd is legend on Apr 13, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that reminds me of my dad

the mid to late 80s mets were his biggest pet peeve, I think he talked more about hating that team than about being a fan of the the cards or any other team. he was more of an anit-met fan than anything.

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 13, 2009 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pond scum

Whitey called ’em the best 2nd place team in all of baseball.

by etp_stl on Apr 13, 2009 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I love Whitey

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by coachnick39 on Apr 13, 2009 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

Whitey Herzog is still my favorite manager of all time

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 13, 2009 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anyone see the renovations at Kansas City

Im not sure that I like the indoor waterfalls

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by coachnick39 on Apr 13, 2009 8:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

A cat got loose on Citi Field

and he was trying to get off the field and he kept hitting the net behind the plate

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by coachnick39 on Apr 13, 2009 8:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Rays are about to bust out the woopin stick on the Yankees

5-0 Rays with no outs in the second. Rays have the bases loaded and no outs

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by coachnick39 on Apr 13, 2009 8:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

9-0 Rays

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by coachnick39 on Apr 13, 2009 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

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by coachnick39 on Apr 13, 2009 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anyone else hear this?

Steve Phillips picked the Cubs to win the WS during the Mets/Padres telecast. As if they needed any more cursing.

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by jd is legend on Apr 13, 2009 8:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Can't say poor cubs...I think its funny that everyone is picking them

and they (fans) are so obnoxiously overconfident. I mean, they have the same amount of playoff victories as we do since we won it all. And we haven’t even had an attempt

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by coachnick39 on Apr 13, 2009 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep

They’ve been outscored 52-18 in the playoffs since Bartman, en route to going 0-8 in those games.

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by jd is legend on Apr 13, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Andruw Jones goes to Texas

and learns how to hit again?

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by coachnick39 on Apr 13, 2009 8:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Has anyone mentioned

that Perdomo was claimed by the Padres? What with the long game threads, and other things, I haven’t been able to read all the posts, so don’t know if anyone had mentioned this. Obviously, he’s on the 25 man roster, but hasn’t gotten into a game yet (only 3rd day into life as a Friar).

There was Gibson in the Reds' dugout, visibly manhandling about three Reds and tossing them bodily out of the dugout and onto the field...He was the toughest athlete mentally I ever saw, and the greatest competitor. JACK BUCK

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Apr 13, 2009 9:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Tyler Greene with a HR for Memphis

Memphis trails 2-1

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by coachnick39 on Apr 13, 2009 9:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

They need to start posting their video of games

so that I can start reviewing these pitching performances. I’m getting pissy without AAA games to watch.

by azruavatar on Apr 13, 2009 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hawksworth pitching tonight

3ip 4h 2r.

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by coachnick39 on Apr 13, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Erin Andrews just called Dan Shulman a picky eater

and told him that he wasn’t getting her pork sandwich

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by coachnick39 on Apr 13, 2009 9:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

she can have my pork sandwich

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