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Game 7 Open Thread -- April 12, 2009

Houston Astros at St. Louis Cardinals, Apr 12, 2009 2:15 PM EDT


 

Rodriguez Lohse
0-0, 1.50 1-0, 2.57

I’ve made a lot, and others have as well, of the Cards’ inferior lineup when we face a lefty. Skip, Ankiel, Rasmus, and Duncan simply aren’t the same hitters against lefties they are against righties and, w/ Glaus on the shelf, we simply don’t have the firepower against southpaws that we have when a RHP is on the mound. It should be noted today, then, that Wandy Rodriguez, for his career, has almost no platoon split. His career OPS against right handed batters is .776 and against left handed batters it’s .765. He does have a 2.43 K/BB ratio against lefties as opposed to 2.01 against righties but the OBP and SLG are about the same and the sample size isn’t small. He is likely to face only the opposition’s best left handed hitters, however, and relatively inferior right handed hitters but it’s still not a demonstrable split.

Where he does have a demonstrable split is between his career performance at home and on the road. At home, for his career, he has a 4.07 ERA and a .725 OPS against. On the road they’re 5.51 and .832. Strangely, he has a 2.84 ERA in 2 new Busch starts w/ a .668 OPS against. Still, he’s clearly not the same pitcher on the road as he is in that big top known as Minute Maid Park.

Lohse had a nice outing against the Pirates his first time out. He walked just 1 in 7 innings and registered 14 ground balls to just 8 in the air. He did give up the one homer – a problem during the spring – but if he can get a lot of grounders today, I’d say our chances of getting the sweep are pretty good – lefty or not on the mound.

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sweep sweep

sweep sweep…

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Apr 12, 2009 2:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Agreed

Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep!

by stlfan on Apr 12, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

reyes

pitching a decent game for the indians so far. 4ip, 1h, 1er, 1bb, 2k

by longhornscardinals on Apr 12, 2009 2:23 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm rooting for Anthony

Haren still hurts way too much though

by fuegophil on Apr 12, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

if its any consolation....

according to gameday, reyes’ fastball is sitting at 87.

by longhornscardinals on Apr 12, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

just pitching to contact

"I remember once talking to one guy on the Cardinals and asking him what Pujols was like as a teammate. He said something that’s really special, if you think about it. He said: "Albert is so good that you feel like you let him down when you screw up." I thought that had to be the ultimate line that could ever be said about a ballplayer. I build my baseball team around that ballplayer."

by Smokin Turkeys on Apr 12, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow

I just found out that MLB Extra Innings is having a free preview. It’s wonderful to be able to watch the Cards here in the wasteland of the East Coast.

by Midwestside on Apr 12, 2009 2:24 PM EDT reply actions  

I couldn’t take it anymore and bought extra innings…..i have watched WAY too much baseball this last week

by NorseKaiser on Apr 12, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wandy + wind blowing in

gonna be a boring day offensively

by TheBirds on Apr 12, 2009 2:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Happy Easter everyone!

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by jd is legend on Apr 12, 2009 2:32 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm sooo tired of ...

6 year old steroids stories being treated like current news!

by etp_stl on Apr 12, 2009 2:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Hell of an AB here, it seems.

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Apr 12, 2009 2:35 PM EDT reply actions  

TV?

Hey can anyone tell me what channel the game is on today?… I’m in Columbia, MO and can’t seem to find it (not on FSNMW or fox…)

by duncans_army on Apr 12, 2009 2:35 PM EDT reply actions  

ahhhhh....

totally forgot that 28 had games sometimes… thanks a million

by duncans_army on Apr 12, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

AttaDunc!

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by jd is legend on Apr 12, 2009 2:38 PM EDT reply actions  

jacked that one

nice

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by ihavebadknees on Apr 12, 2009 2:39 PM EDT reply actions  

so good to see Baby Dunk back

so very good. especially vs a lefty

BEN MOTHERHUSHYOURMOUTH SHEETS

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson

by gdm426 on Apr 12, 2009 2:39 PM EDT reply actions  

damn

Freese didn’t really get much to hit there….

by nota bene on Apr 12, 2009 2:43 PM EDT reply actions  

nice play yadi

lohse is wheeling and dealing

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by ihavebadknees on Apr 12, 2009 2:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice range, Yadi

Do something Colby

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by jd is legend on Apr 12, 2009 2:48 PM EDT reply actions  

so the Gameday premium stuff is cool

I’m trying to read the pitching analysis charts….they’re rather dense….

by nota bene on Apr 12, 2009 2:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Am I the only person who is hating the new GameDay Audio?

Is it just me? It seems to cut out like once an inning requiring me to go back and reconnect all over again. Plus, they got rid of the box scores and play information, replacing it with gigantic logos of the two teams.

by mattisnotfrench on Apr 12, 2009 2:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Cutting out on me, too.

Very annoying. I wonder who we complain to, except each other?

BTW, you can click on the box score on a menu at the bottom left of the screen.

"I don't know how we did it, but we did it." -- Jim Edmonds

by vico on Apr 12, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah,

I just noticed that. I’m sure MLB is getting all sorts of complaints. Leave it to them to mess with a great product and make it worse. :(

by mattisnotfrench on Apr 12, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I completely agree about the audio,

…but the video has been working much better for me this year, particularly the archived video. Just to give them a little credit.

by peach concrete on Apr 12, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I haven't been able to access GD Audio

I would love to, but it says “Gameday Audio coming soon!” and that’s it.

by nota bene on Apr 12, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Oswalt had thrown like 7 at this point yesterday

We’re in good shape

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by jd is legend on Apr 12, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

This isn't Oswalt though

i wish is was Oswalt, everyone assumed we were going to kill Wandy last year and he became a cardinal killer.

by TheBirds on Apr 12, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

up until yesterday

oswalt was a cardinal killer too

R.P.O.F.Y.M.

by BVHeck on Apr 12, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

damn that stupid battery!

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Apr 12, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oswalt has been pretty bad since the WBC

gotta think about what pitchers are doing currently.

Wandy stock is up right now, Oswalt is down.

by TheBirds on Apr 12, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

well

I don’t think anybody suspected we were going to hang six on Oswalt yesterday, especially after the first few innings…..

by nota bene on Apr 12, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great inning by Lohse against their big sticks

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by jd is legend on Apr 12, 2009 2:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice Khalil

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by jd is legend on Apr 12, 2009 3:00 PM EDT reply actions  

lol gameday

showed that first ball to pujols was in the strike zone.
even the umps are afraid of pujols’ wrath!

R.P.O.F.Y.M.

by BVHeck on Apr 12, 2009 3:01 PM EDT reply actions  

His reputation precedes him

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by jd is legend on Apr 12, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

had one of those in the 1st inning too

if you can believe GD that one was definitely over the plate, but he called it a ball….

by nota bene on Apr 12, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm flipping between gameday and the masters

and Phil just hit the shot of the tournament. He’s on fire right now. Even money will say he’s gonna pull this out.

"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"

by tgreenfield on Apr 12, 2009 3:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Gameday does not like the ump's strike zone against Albert

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Apr 12, 2009 3:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Maybe I'm just sleepy,

…but is Shannon talking a mile-a-minute today?

by peach concrete on Apr 12, 2009 3:02 PM EDT reply actions  

lets go studwick

rbi time baby

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by ihavebadknees on Apr 12, 2009 3:02 PM EDT reply actions  

1-0!

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by jd is legend on Apr 12, 2009 3:04 PM EDT reply actions  

god i love pujols

what a great first to third…so damn agressive

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by ihavebadknees on Apr 12, 2009 3:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Also allowed Luddy to get to 2nd

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by jd is legend on Apr 12, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

how'd he do that?

moving up on the throw to third?

by nota bene on Apr 12, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Kinda impressive seeing as how the throw went right through the cutoff man.

by mojowo11 on Apr 12, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

ha

i didnt even notice that till now…lets go cards

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by ihavebadknees on Apr 12, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Freese's AB intro music should be "Ice, Ice Baby"

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by jd is legend on Apr 12, 2009 3:08 PM EDT reply actions  

ouch

looks like a good pitch from Wandy to get Freese…..

by nota bene on Apr 12, 2009 3:10 PM EDT reply actions  

good thing we're up

looks like it might rain later in STL

by nota bene on Apr 12, 2009 3:12 PM EDT reply actions  

did miggy think he was really going to beat that out?

with all those subpoenas slowing him down?

"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"

by tgreenfield on Apr 12, 2009 3:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow, great play by Schumaker!!

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by jd is legend on Apr 12, 2009 3:13 PM EDT reply actions  

He might have trouble with the routine

but he can sure turn in some gems…

I think he’ll be okay.

by TheBirds on Apr 12, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

13 in a row for Lohse

Not to jinx anyone, but if Lohse/Pineiro can be half as good as they have been recently, this is going to be a very good pitching staff

by NorseKaiser on Apr 12, 2009 3:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Sample sample size size

I have moderate confident in Lohse, but Pinata is still terrifying as far as I’m concerned.

I’m also not expecting much from Welley. Could be a top-heavy rotation this year.

by mojowo11 on Apr 12, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lohse is for real I think

Pineiro scares me but he has long stretches where he qualifies as a good pitcher.

by nota bene on Apr 12, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agree About Joe-L

He pounds the strike zone, but doesn’t miss bats. Some games the balls will find the gloves behind him, sometimes we’ll wonder why he can’t get anyone out. Not terrible for a 5th starter, though.

by Midwestside on Apr 12, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wellemeyer

is the one that I don’t really have any confidence in….

by nota bene on Apr 12, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Welle can find the Strike Zone

I have no worries about him. He can miss bats. He and Pineiro are basically opposites.

by Midwestside on Apr 12, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right

But I think most people think this is a decent rotation with Pineiro being pretty bad and Lohse pitching like his total season stats from last year as opposed to the 1st half…if Pineiro is not terrible and Lohse is anywhere close to his 1st half of 2008, I really like the rotation

by NorseKaiser on Apr 12, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

Wainwright/Carp/Lohse—> scary in the postseason

by nota bene on Apr 12, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

15 straight for K-Lo

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by jd is legend on Apr 12, 2009 3:16 PM EDT reply actions  

1 hit, no walks

just the one baserunner thru 5 innings….positively Carp-esque

by nota bene on Apr 12, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Carp wouldn't let those balls reach the OF

but I don’t think it’s fair for me to expect Lohse to do everything Carp does.

by TheBirds on Apr 12, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

no

that would definitely not be fair….

by nota bene on Apr 12, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Taking Advantage of Free MLB Extra Innings

To Watch Anthony Reyes pitch for the Tribe. Not doing too great but is in line for the win after 6 IP.

by Midwestside on Apr 12, 2009 3:18 PM EDT reply actions  

For those who may care

Phil Mickelson is playing lights out in Augusta. He may take it if the leaders falter.

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by jd is legend on Apr 12, 2009 3:19 PM EDT reply actions  

4th pitch to Rasmus was borderline

not nearly as bad as the ones to Pujols….

by nota bene on Apr 12, 2009 3:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Great 0-2 bunt, Kyle

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by jd is legend on Apr 12, 2009 3:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Ugh

Lucky play by Wandy

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by jd is legend on Apr 12, 2009 3:23 PM EDT reply actions  

come on K-Lil

"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"

by tgreenfield on Apr 12, 2009 3:23 PM EDT reply actions  

OMG

I want to see that clip again.

Ray took that guys head off.

by azruavatar on Apr 12, 2009 3:23 PM EDT reply actions  

It might

explain Darren Daulton’s present state. Dude is nuts.

Classic underachiever.

by spants on Apr 12, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's sad

Daulton sounds out and out schizophrenic these days….poor guy

by nota bene on Apr 12, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

What clip?

EI is showing the Houston feed, grrrr

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by jd is legend on Apr 12, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ray Lankford came around third on an infield out

and they through home but he DEMOLISHED the catcher, Darren Daulton. It was amazing.

by azruavatar on Apr 12, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wish it was on youtube

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by jd is legend on Apr 12, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NohXKDH79Tk

@ 26 seconds, it’s only a split second of it, but best I can find.

by TheBirds on Apr 12, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

All right!

Khalil having a nice day!

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by jd is legend on Apr 12, 2009 3:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Ugly ugly ugly tee shot by Phil/Tiger there.

If anyone cares :)

"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"

by tgreenfield on Apr 12, 2009 3:24 PM EDT reply actions  

is Greene a threat to steal?

why bother with a throw to first when Pujols is at the plate?

by nota bene on Apr 12, 2009 3:27 PM EDT reply actions  

seems goofy to me

when the best hitter in the ballpark is up w/ 2 outs, focus on him and forget the runner…..whatever the runner is going to do to you, it doesn’t come close to what Pujols at the plate can.

But he got AP regardless….what do I know….

by nota bene on Apr 12, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

drat

Pujols is so ridiculous, I expect him to drive in runs every time he steps to the plate….

by nota bene on Apr 12, 2009 3:29 PM EDT reply actions  

as you should, based on everything so far this season

by NorseKaiser on Apr 12, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

16 straight

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by jd is legend on Apr 12, 2009 3:30 PM EDT reply actions  

18 straight

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by jd is legend on Apr 12, 2009 3:33 PM EDT reply actions  

stellar

now go do it to the cubs

R.P.O.F.Y.M.

by BVHeck on Apr 12, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yesterday: Wainer 3 ip, 72 pitches

Today: Lohse 6 ip, 68 pitches

"I think he's the best hitter of all time. I think there has never been a better hitter than him. And I know I didn't see them all, but I just don't think there could be." - Adam Wainwright on The Mang

by bmorgan on Apr 12, 2009 3:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Good AB Lud

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by jd is legend on Apr 12, 2009 3:38 PM EDT reply actions  

I know, I know

It just doesn’t sound right or something.

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by jd is legend on Apr 12, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

9 pitch walk

Wandy might not make it thru this inning if the Cards rally again

by nota bene on Apr 12, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

its not an AB :)

"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"

by tgreenfield on Apr 12, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bad call, ump

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by jd is legend on Apr 12, 2009 3:39 PM EDT reply actions  

LMFAO

GD has that pitch to Duncan in the RH batters’ box

by nota bene on Apr 12, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

it

was actually almost that bad.

Classic underachiever.

by spants on Apr 12, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

GD is right

That ball was probably six inches outside.

by mojowo11 on Apr 12, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Only thing is that he hit the spot right where Pudge set up

That’s the only positive I can see from that pitch. Still doesn’t make it a strike.

Azru, you need to lead the robot umpire rebellion!

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by jd is legend on Apr 12, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

no way

its all part of the game

My Cards Blog - We're in First - today

by dylaninthewall on Apr 12, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

All for it

There are ways you could automate the whole game. Put a chip in the baseball and the glove, a pressure sensor on the base, a sensor field going straight up from the fence, etc.

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by jd is legend on Apr 12, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

meh

I question how accurately they can measure pitches with gadgetry….although using such a system to track the performance of the umpires—now that’s interesting.

by nota bene on Apr 12, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd say "very".

Cyclops has been a tremendous success in tennis, and the ball is moving a great deal faster. It’s not beyond the state of the art.

by StanTheManFan on Apr 12, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Calling serves in or out.

It focuses on the line at the end of the service box. There used to be all kinds of arguments as to whether serves would be over the line. They completely disappeared with automated calls, even though serves are getting up past 140 mph any more. And it didn’t take the interest out of the game, not at all.

by StanTheManFan on Apr 12, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Probably,

We would all like it sometimes…..Then we would hate it the rest of the time

by fuegophil on Apr 12, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not that I'm not happy w/ Skip

but Matsui would have been a good pickup a while back.

by TheBirds on Apr 12, 2009 3:42 PM EDT reply actions  

matsui

guy has been a vacuum over there the entire series

by Glowsticks on Apr 12, 2009 3:43 PM EDT reply actions  

how's Wandy look on TV?

he sure isn’t throwing many fastballs this inning

by nota bene on Apr 12, 2009 3:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice audible "fuck" from Freese

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by jd is legend on Apr 12, 2009 3:46 PM EDT reply actions  

can't we give the guy a little more time?

he’s looked good in some games, bad in others, big deal.

by TheBirds on Apr 12, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eh, it all balances out

Albert looks like a major leaguer in the minors

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by jd is legend on Apr 12, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dear John Mozeliak

Please stop giving TLR so many middle infielders. He doesn’t understand that they don’t all have to play and it’s making me (more) violent.

Your favorite robot,
AZ

by azruavatar on Apr 12, 2009 3:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Very nice play by Raz

Not sure if Ank would get to that ball

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by jd is legend on Apr 12, 2009 3:51 PM EDT reply actions  

20 straight!

Overflow up

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by jd is legend on Apr 12, 2009 3:52 PM EDT reply actions  

gah gameday's behind

i have no idea what youre talking about :(

R.P.O.F.Y.M.

by BVHeck on Apr 12, 2009 3:54 PM EDT reply actions  

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