Cardinal Nation Approval Ratings
This is a project I'm starting to see how Cardinal Nation views the players and other figures in Cardinal Red. Here's the relevant part from my blog entry today:
Today I'm kicking off a project and I hope that all of you will help me with it. I was listening to ESPN Radio a couple of days ago and the host was talking about "approval ratings" for players. How he gave a certain basketball player a 90% because of what he did on the court but that certain tendencies (like flopping or acting) drug it down a little bit.
I want to take that concept into Cardinal Nation. What is your approval rating on certain Cardinals? There are two things to take into account when you are coming up with your number. Weight them however you want, of course. There's nothing objective about this exercise.
The first part is, of course, their play on the field. I imagine most of you would give Albert Pujols a 95 or higher on that part of his rating. Maybe his baserunning drives it down from 100 for you, though, or maybe he pops up too much for your taste.
The second part is your impression of them off the field. Some of you may have had contact with them and that influences your rating. Perhaps you ran into Pujols on a surly day, so you'd give him a 50 on his personal aspect of the rating because that's always lingered with you and shaded how you look at him.
Put them together and maybe AP gets an 85 in your book.
I want to start today with Tony LaRussa. Maybe you think he's a good manager but you hate the sunglasses. Maybe you think he couldn't manage his way out of a paper bag but you give him points for ARF.
Come up with your percentage from 0% to 100%, however you want to do it, and post it here. I'll average the answers from here, my blog, and CardsClubhouse and report back with the first Cardinal Nation Approval Rating tomorrow.
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BTW
I think this is a pretty cool idea.
by azruavatar on Mar 5, 2009 10:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting idea...
Especially because political approval ratings (unless I’m mistaken) are a simple measurement of “yes” versus “no” on the question “do you approve of ____”. This requires a bit more thinking.
Generally I like LaRussa. He’s an interesting mix of “set in his ways” and “quirky outside the box” managing. Maybe he’s “set in his once-quirky ways with the occasional dash of newness” or something. I’ll give him a 67%. I actually dig the sunglasses, and I dock him a couple points for the ARF stuff. It’s not that I don’t like puppies and kittens and hamsters or whatever. I’m just really getting tired of Celebrities Who Care About The Animals™.
by mattybobo on Mar 5, 2009 10:57 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
it's like fuzzy logic
as opposed to binary logic
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 5, 2009 12:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Tony
75%
Patiently awaiting the day Colby Rasmus does this: .275/.381/.551/.932, 29HR, in St. Louis...
by RunninRedbird on Mar 5, 2009 11:16 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
TLR 85%
he may have his stubborn senility ridden moments… but I still think we have a good core right now and at least we don’t have to trust in someone like dusty baker
by mr banana grabber on Mar 5, 2009 11:18 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
TLR
82%
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by jd is legend on Mar 5, 2009 11:19 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
TLR
85%
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on Mar 5, 2009 12:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
TLR
80%…Love this idea.
I think, for the most part, Tony is a good in game strategist. The tinkering with the lineup rubs me the wrong way somtimes, and some of the stuff off the field, I could do without.
Overall I respect Tony, and I’m happy he’s presided over a pretty successful run for the Cardinals.
The thought that I have is that the season is over. And that everybody in the game; a fan, a coach, a player, a manager, front office, scouts...surrender. They say, "that's enough," especially after a game like this. But then Christmas comes, New Years, contracts are signed, trades are made, free agents are signed; and then baseball, like the rose beneath the April snow will force it's way to the front again. And we'll have the fever once more.
-Jack
by Jack618 on Mar 5, 2009 12:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
woulda been higher
but last year kinda ticked me off, we coulda been in the playoffs
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 6, 2009 12:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
TLARF
74%
Chuck Norris hit a Home Run
with his beard
by bearcatcardfan on Mar 5, 2009 12:52 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Tony
81%
"Statistics mean nothing to the individual"
"You are what you eat and you clearly went out and devoured a big fat guy"
by jacksonian on Mar 5, 2009 1:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
90%
Docking five points for the vegetarianism thing, and another five for being a lawyer.
/kidding about the rationale
by liam on Mar 5, 2009 1:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Being a vegetarian is slapping millions of years of evolution in the face
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by jd is legend on Mar 5, 2009 3:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
because we really have to go out and fight to kill and eat that beef
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 5, 2009 4:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We have evolved the necessary stomach enzymes to break down meat though
Some species don’t have that, and it’s not exactly like we release the hounds to be able to eat carrots and apples
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by jd is legend on Mar 5, 2009 5:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
carrots are for rabbits
not people
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by mattyfrommo on Mar 5, 2009 5:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That's not food...
That’s what food eats!
(From Phil Hartman playing Sinatra)
by liam on Mar 5, 2009 6:08 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
nice!
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by mattyfrommo on Mar 5, 2009 6:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the only time carrots should be considered a food
is when they are in cake form (this also applies to Germans)
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by mattyfrommo on Mar 5, 2009 6:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
for a sec i thought you were saying to eat germans
then i remembered my favorite cake is german chocolate cake
BEN MOTHERHUSHYOURMOUTH SHEETS
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
by gdm426 on Mar 6, 2009 1:00 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
there's no bigger killer in the US
than the shit, literally in some cases, we put into our bodies — and it begins w/ the beef industry. Continuing to eat the bacteria, hormones, and fecal matter that exists in most American beef shows a total disregard for our bodies, basic human health, and science.
by chuckb on Mar 5, 2009 9:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You wanna talk about shit?
Ask for your tea or water with no lemon next time.
And yes, I know she says lemons being covered in fecal matter is like “they were dipped in raw meat” but I really just wanted to freak everyone out about lemons and show that 77% is now equal to 2 out of every 3.
Also, chuck, not sure if you’re a vegetarian or what, but I was being tongue-in-cheek. I’m not gonna come down on anyone for his lifestyle. If somebody wants to be a vegetarian, then so be it. I’m perfectly happy eating hamburgers, chicken wings, coconut shrimp and baby back ribs.
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by jd is legend on Mar 5, 2009 10:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
so when life gives us crap covered lemons,
are you saying we are supposed to drink crap filled lemonade?
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I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
by gdm426 on Mar 6, 2009 1:02 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
how about the chickens that eat their own shit, then we eat them?
talk about nasty
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 6, 2009 12:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That's why
I try to buy all vegetarian fed chicken and eggs.
by spants on Mar 6, 2009 1:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You know how mad-cow made it out in Europe?
They take the carcasses of dead cattle, grind them up, add flavoring and feed them back to their living counterparts. Seriously, that is how they used to feed their cattle over there. Luckily, we outlawed that here in the US many years ago.
MooCow, I hope you’ve never been to Europe. If you have, you may very well be a canibal my friend.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
by Eckstreem on Mar 6, 2009 3:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually
We only outlawed that practice in the US in response to the mad-cow disease, in the mid 90s. So we’ve all eaten beef that fed on beef.
by spants on Mar 6, 2009 3:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
my granpa used to have a beef farm down in SE Mizzou
we got all our meat from him & he never did that. i miss that farm, that beef was the awesome
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I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
by gdm426 on Mar 6, 2009 5:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That's great.
Not all small farms did that. But if you’ve eaten a school lunch or fast food, you’ve eaten cannibal cows.
by spants on Mar 6, 2009 5:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
damn you McDonald's!
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I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
by gdm426 on Mar 6, 2009 5:46 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
92%
I’m giving him bonus points for his charity work with animals.
by JWO on Mar 5, 2009 1:47 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
80%
3 or 4 years ago, I would have had him at 95+, but I think he is either slipping, or he is just to intent on TONY-fying baseball. Either way he is still doing a fine job (you can’t argue with results), I just wish he would tone it down a notch (see what I did there? pats my own back for that one).
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by mattyfrommo on Mar 5, 2009 2:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
94% luv the shades
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I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
by gdm426 on Mar 5, 2009 2:14 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
what does it get lowered to if TPK is off the team this year?
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by mattyfrommo on Mar 5, 2009 2:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
-84%
someone needs to keep those puppies in line, we all know it won’t be TLR
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by gdm426 on Mar 5, 2009 2:23 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
TLR
85%..
He’s awesome
There are three things in my life which I really love: God, my family, and baseball. The only problem - once baseball season starts, I change the order around a bit. ~Al Gallagher, 1971
by wizardofozzie on Mar 5, 2009 2:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Tony
80%
Overall I like Tony and think we are lucky to have him. My gripes include too many hit and runs, the whole micromanaging the bullpen thing, and the fact that he hits Albert 3rd instead of 4th (Not trying to start another debate on that, just a personal feeling on the matter).
And I say England's greatest prime minister was Lord Palmerston.
by tangledbrett on Mar 5, 2009 2:52 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
TLR
85%
Utility infielders playing the outfield and lefty specialists facing more than just lefties brings him down.
by krueger427 on Mar 5, 2009 3:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
TLR
82%.
He has his personality issues, but we’ve had some pretty good success since he’s been here.
by acsing on Mar 5, 2009 3:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Anybody who is giving him a 90
or higher loses bitching rights this season. Robots never forget.
by azruavatar on Mar 5, 2009 5:39 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Calm Down Hot Plate!
but yeah, I agree
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by mattyfrommo on Mar 5, 2009 6:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not in that group but I'm curious...
Loses bitching rights to what?
Bitching about Tony? Bitching about the Cardinal losses? Bitching about players playing out of position? Bitching about tinkering with lineups? All of these? None of these?
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on Mar 5, 2009 6:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The (sarcastic) fascist robot says bitching about Tony.
by azruavatar on Mar 5, 2009 8:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I was just trying to clarify the (sarcastic) robot's comment
That way we aren’t confused about who’d giving up what bitching rights….
Reminds me of a line from the great George Carlin though:
“People tell me that if I don’t vote I can’t bitch. I disagree with this line of thinking. If I don’t vote, then I can bitch all I want. YOU’RE the one that elected the guy I’m bitching about!”
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on Mar 6, 2009 4:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I remember him saying that
He was one of my favorites. Wish I could’ve seen him live before he died….
Patiently awaiting the day Colby Rasmus does this: .275/.381/.551/.932, 29HR, in St. Louis...
by RunninRedbird on Mar 6, 2009 6:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
azru - any chance we see you give a once-a-week prospect/farm update here?
with the shutdown of FR, it would be nice to keep the prospect evals circulating.
by tom s. on Mar 6, 2009 5:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i have a First Amendment right to bitch. even if I previously said someone was a genius.
bloody fascist robots.
by tom s. on Mar 5, 2009 8:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
90% of my #'s were due to the shades
so i’m still good to bitch
BEN MOTHERHUSHYOURMOUTH SHEETS
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
by gdm426 on Mar 6, 2009 1:03 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
TLR - L for Lucky?
60%
After reading the Bissinger book, I just can get over how often he play hunches and makes decisions based on 10 plate appearances.
by lightbulb on Mar 5, 2009 5:57 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
70%
Like
- his candor
- preparedness
- playing a hard nine
Dislike
- constant tinkering
- protectiveness
- his media baited bickering
by ubeddie on Mar 5, 2009 5:59 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
75%
He does a lot of things that bother me, but I think he’s a fine manager overall.
by TheBirds on Mar 5, 2009 7:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
80%
The Cardinals are competitive season in, season out and LaRussa plays a big part in it. When he has talent, LaRussa leads them to 105 wins (2004). When talent lacks or injuries plague us, he is still able to get us in the pennant talking. All in all, he’s good yet tends to overmanage some games…
Yadi swings and hits a high fly ball... Endy Chavez goes back, to the track, to the wall... ITS A GUNNER!! Yadi gives St. Louis the lead in the top of the ninth!
by Paulspike on Mar 5, 2009 7:33 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
75%
A lot of his decisions and general baseball philosophy piss me off, but the dude gets results. Also I am pretty sure that Pujols loves him which gives him 50% out of the gate.
vivaelbeñsheets
by vivaelpujols on Mar 5, 2009 7:40 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
87.5%
Though he will end up giving me a heart attack, he is the best in the game.
hecanthithecanthithecanthithecanthit
by Alxfritz on Mar 5, 2009 8:40 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
that & all the garbage you eat
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I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
by gdm426 on Mar 6, 2009 1:05 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I have liked Tony
since the White Sox. I was glad the Cards brought him in. I was getting tired of him, but now I am ok with him again. So he is back up to 82.7%
by nybirdfan on Mar 5, 2009 9:21 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
80%
The 20% I dislike can really tick me off, but there is no manager currently in baseball that I would trade him for.
Sign someone who can pitch, then let this team play.
by IL and StL Fan on Mar 5, 2009 9:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Good idea, Cardinal70
Base score 85% +10% ARF +5% vegetarian + 5% wife and daughters like Iron Maiden -10% for sticking his hands under his armpits like Molly Shannon’s SNL character, “superstar” +5% for cool friends like Bellicheck and Parcells -5% for association w/Bobby “the choker” Knight -20% for DUI +10% for fessing up that he messed up and not make excuses -5% for succumbing to media Trolls on the Jim Ed fiasco +5% for being a lawyer -5% for being a lawyer +5% for LaDunc combination +5% for 3 nights in August
Total score = 90%
born Dodger blue, now dyed Cardinals red
by totalloser on Mar 5, 2009 9:55 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
- infinity for you for thinking Bill Bellicheat is cool
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I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
by gdm426 on Mar 6, 2009 1:06 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
he had me until I read that, everything else sounded pretty cool
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 6, 2009 12:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He mis interpreted the rrrrules
vivaelbeñsheets
by vivaelpujols on Mar 6, 2009 10:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed on the videogate fiasco
For better or for worse, I really admire the guy. I don’t think his success can be disputed, but I grant you that he is a very polarizing figure. I just love the way the guy handles the media. When he is interviewed, he NEVER gives them anything to talk about, no matter how hard they try to probe, ask, and twist. Also, I like the fact that he never loses his cool, while Parcells shouts down reporters. BTW, I absolutely “hate” the NE Patriots as a team.
born Dodger blue, now dyed Cardinals red
by totalloser on Mar 7, 2009 4:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah,
switch Bobby Knight and Billicheck, you’ve got it.
by WyoCardsFan on Mar 10, 2009 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
TLR
I have to doc him massive points on his cognitive biases that he runs the team: superstion, seeing patterns in random data, man love on things that can not be proven empirically (not counting grit, of course) et cetera.
I give him a failing grade of 45%for being the anti Thomas Gilovich.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
by rocKStark5 on Mar 5, 2009 11:11 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
So the winningest manager (counting stats!) in Cards history not only gets an F
but doesn’t even crack 50%?
Tough crowd.
hecanthithecanthithecanthithecanthit
by Alxfritz on Mar 6, 2009 12:32 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
85%
He’s a winner, he has ARF, hasa law degree, he goes to concerts, I go to concerts, he doesn’t kiss and tell; a true baseball man. He does have a former family that he kinda just dumped. Dock 15% for that.
by bornin82 on Mar 5, 2009 11:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Upper 80s
Say 87 if the data is being tracked.
I don’t care for how he approaches series sweeps (winning first two games and giving most of the thump of your lineup the day off since the series win was clenched).
I don’t mind the hunches and tinkering all of that much when it’s not bullpen related. Most of the positional and lineup tinkering has been fairly effective over his tenure here.
I don’t mind the media bickering either, IMO P-D has so little new they’ve got him painted in a way that’s quite one sided and if he wants to express something, so be it.
When he says something shocking, there’s always an undercurrent. Borrowing pitchers from the Orioles pushed the org to bring in more arms of our own, I still believe that his public impact bat talk was a contiuation to get Bonds in uniform to help out last year – not slighting Luddy who could have lived in the #2 hole.
I admire a guy who has done his job as long as he has and is still so determined to win, even though he gets a hard time for being anti-player development. It’s nice to see someone handle a shift from keeping veterans at peace to developing young talent and extracting everything he feels they have. I don’t think that shift is as respected as it should be.
But the Kennedy in the OF stunts last year was a little uncalled for, even if the undercurrent was obvious.
One Century down, next on its way. Cardinals '09 : Preserving the Cubs tradition.
by AdjustedExpectations on Mar 6, 2009 2:32 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
and he goes out of his way to protect the org’s key asset, Albert. Which I’m appreciative of.
One Century down, next on its way. Cardinals '09 : Preserving the Cubs tradition.
by AdjustedExpectations on Mar 6, 2009 2:34 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
90%
+1) birds have had good success since he’s been in StL- he has to get some credit for that
+2) in the last three seasons birds have 1 championship, 1 lousy season, 1 over-performing season- lousy season notwithstanding, I see the teams recent performance as an overall big plus
+3) no reason that I can see to view ARF as anything but a positive
+4) Albert seems to like him
+5) the importance of his family to him seems genuine
+6) has a genuine respect for the history and tradition of the Cards and shows props to past redbird greats, with the exception of…
-1) Ozzie doesn’t like him
-2) seems kind of like an a-hole
-3) I loathe Bob Knight and Big Tuna
the plusses far outweigh the negatives
by Scarecrow7775 on Mar 6, 2009 4:19 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I like...
I don’t like the drama with players, but I do like how he deflects attention from the media to protect his players. Above all, he reminds me of my dad. Once you get on my dad’s good side, you are forever on his good side. He will forever shop at your store, buy gas from you, etc. But once you cross him, you will have forever crossed him. This is basically Tony.
I’m going to go 85%. We are still champions and we are still under Bill Simmons’ 5-year no bitch grace rule.
by Big Rev on Mar 6, 2009 8:40 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Oh yeah...
You know when you’re bowling and you only knock down 1 measly pin? Now, you can look your cub fan friends in the eye and say, “it’s time to pull a La Russa. I’m picking up the hard nine.” I like that I can be extra motivated for those moments thanks to Tony.
by Big Rev on Mar 6, 2009 8:42 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I have to go with...
85%. Before the WS win, this would have been WAY lower, but he seemed to pull all the right strings through that run. I am not a fan of the micro-managing of games, just let your players play is what i think. Since the WS win though, I have warmed up to Tony quite a bit. I also like the fact that he looks like the Ozzman when he gets excited and jumps around lol.
by MUGATU on Mar 6, 2009 8:57 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
95%
(Mostly to balance out rocKStark5’s failing grade! J/K)
The micro-managing drives me nuts sometimes, but he does seem to get the best from his players. I also like his highly-organized-everything-has-a-purpose approach to spring training camp, so the fact that the question is being posed during spring training raises TLR’s mark from me quite a bit.
by cardsgirl95 on Mar 6, 2009 9:09 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Totals
They are up in my blog entry today, but overall, TLR comes in with a 79.5% rating. Just here on VEB, it’s 80.5. New one coming in a moment!
by Cardinal70 on Mar 6, 2009 9:30 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
guess I got to the polls a little late
I’d say 90% because the Cards have been very successful during his tenure.
He got McGwire to come here (and we all loved the HR race at the time) and Albert likes him.
The worst move he’s ever made was not pinch hitting Pujols in the All-Star Game two years ago. You just know Pujols would have hit a walk-off grand slam. I still curse that display of micro-managing every time I think about it. Luckily it was a game that didn’t mean anything.
by sluggerbird on Mar 6, 2009 10:42 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
80
[Homer shows Bart "Wonderbat".]
Bart: Wow. How many home runs you gonna hit with that thing?
Homer: Let's see... We play thirty games. Ten at-bats a game. Mm...three thousand.
by boog on Mar 6, 2009 10:45 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
TLR
85%
Great idea!
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by zoomzoomj88 on Mar 6, 2009 11:38 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
70%, but I'm a notoriously hard grader.
The things that mark him down (from a very high base level) are:
- Deference to Dave Duncan, whose demerits exceed his own;
- Exaggerated preference for rusty veterans over toolsy-but-raw kids;
- The biggest thing: unfortunate habit of putting people in the doghouse and then using sportswriters to keep them there;
- Difficulty in admitting it when he’s wrong.
Still, as I say, for me that’s a pretty good grade. There are, at most, two managers in baseball that I’d give a higher one, and I’m not really sure about either of them. Dude is good at his job, rating-depleting quirks notwithstanding.
by StanTheManFan on Mar 6, 2009 11:43 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
He sounds exactly like George Bush
- Deference to Dave Duncan (Dick Cheney), whose demerits exceed his own;
- Exaggerated preference for rusty veterans (Religion) over toolsy-but-raw kids (Science);
- The biggest thing: unfortunate habit of putting people in the doghouse and then using sportswriters to keep them there (I can’t think of an analogy);
- Difficulty in admitting it when he’s wrong (pretty much synonymous for Bush).
vivaelbeñsheets
by vivaelpujols on Mar 7, 2009 3:23 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Boo politics
Hooray baseball
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by jd is legend on Mar 7, 2009 11:55 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
rec'd
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by mattyfrommo on Mar 7, 2009 3:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
-1
"No political discussions: there are other blogs where you can discuss politics. this one is for talking about baseball. we want everybody to feel welcome here, regardless of his/her political beliefs. "
The Godfather himself has decided to grace us with his presence. This is his damn house. He sleeps 20 feet away.
by thegodfather on Mar 7, 2009 4:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
70%
I think he continually making us competitive is great, but it’s really not all that wonderful when we don’t end up making the playoffs (and yes, I remember 2006). It feels like he’s getting senile and more full of his approach with older age and the years and years of experience, and I really want him to just hang it up. I honestly can’t see Oquendo doing a much worse job (not that TLR is doing a horrible job).
On with the (good) youth movement!
by aet15 on Mar 6, 2009 4:21 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
50%
for me as I am not really a fan of either his managerial style or his personality. A few years ago I would have given him a higher rating, but since he won the WS in ’06 he seems to have gotten far more arrogant while being less of an asset to the team.
You can’t deny the guy has had success, but I think manager’s impacts in general and TLRs impact in StL in particular are overrated. He probably cost the Cardinals several wins last year with his stubborn insistence on playing injured/non-performing players who were favorites of his.
Those Pilgrims ain't lookin' so proud now...
by giveml on Mar 6, 2009 5:06 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
We could probably each write a book
about our feelings toward TLR. This is a good way to reduce the book to an equation or at least a novella.
Let’s see…..
I add considerable points for managing my team to more wins than any other person.
Subtract some for being kind of a slow learner (remember the nonsensical double switches the first couple of years).
Add for being a sure learner. (Learned that defense is important in the national league.)
Subtract for all the personal crap with players.
Add for supporting his players in tough times.
Subtract for turning my team into a slow footed, wait for the next home run team. (The Mcgwire years.)
Add considerably for sincere animal rights work.
Subtract for not trying to do anything about the steroid generation.
Add considerably for not screwing up Albert.
Subtract considerably for screwing up other young players.
Subtract for being surly.
Add for accepting blame.
This could go on forever but after filling two large blackboards with numbers my scientific approval rating of Tony Larussa is……
69%.
by easy on Mar 6, 2009 5:55 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Meets Expectations
75%. He’s had the luxury of one of the highest payrolls in the NL Central during his tenure. How much credit should he get considering the level of talent on his rosters? I give him some credit for trying things like hitting the pitcher 8th when no one else would attempt it. However, that’s offset by his stubbornness and more than occasional comments to the press that unnecessarily piss off his players and undermine the front office.
by capn crunch on Mar 6, 2009 8:40 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
75
I’m going to focus on the negative because it’s easier. He’s been successful and we all know it so let’s not go there.
1) Much of his success came with the help of Dave Duncan, I believe
2) Kennedy in the OF is ludicrous
3) That whole drunk driving incident…imagine how pissed he would have been if it had been a player? (Picture what he’d say if Colby did it…)
4) I liked Scott Rolen. I know it’s good we don’t have him anymore, but sheesh.
5) We all knew Izzy was broken
6) Arrogance.
The Godfather himself has decided to grace us with his presence. This is his damn house. He sleeps 20 feet away.
by thegodfather on Mar 7, 2009 12:44 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
TLR gets . . .
94 percent.
Downgraded for his dickishness to anyone who doesn’t fit in his system. But take a look at where the team was when he arrived (somewhere between first and second division) to where they are now (they’ve been competitive in all but two years he’s been here). Oh, plus . . . two WS appearances, with one ring. It’s pretty difficult to argue against those results.
"The world is getting to be such a dangerous place, a man is lucky to get out of it alive." -- W.C. Fields
by Donut King on Mar 8, 2009 2:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
88%
-25 for all of the stuff he does that seems to make no sense.
+13 for it working a little more than half the time
Is it weird that I would rather the payroll be more like the Marlins than the Yankees?
by ForesterShane on Mar 9, 2009 2:11 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
82
Don’t have anything to say that hasn’t been spelled out in detail already.
by WyoCardsFan on Mar 10, 2009 9:45 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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