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Reds '09 Season Preview

The second installment of our NL Central season previews moves eastward to look at the Cincinnati Reds.

  • ’08 record – 74-88
  • ‘08 Pythagorean record – 71-91
  • Runs per game – 4.35 (12th in NL)
  • Runs yielded per game – 4.94 (13th in NL)
  • DER -- .674 – last in the NL (Defense Efficiency Ratio)
  • BP projected record – 79-83
  • Chone projected record – 82-80
  • Welcome: Ramon Hernandez, Jonny Gomes, Arthur Rhodes, Micah Owings, Willy Taveras
  • Don’t let the door hit you…: Ryan Freel, Javier Valentin, Dave Ross, Jeremy Affeldt, Todd Coffey, Gary Majewski, Josh Fogg, Corey Patterson
For years the Reds have been seen as a powerful offensive club w/ little pitching. Part of that is a result of their ballpark being one of the great hitting parks in all of baseball (park factors of 104 and 105 for hitting and pitching, respectively) and part of that’s been b/c their pitchers just weren’t that good and they had some guys who could really mash. Even role players like Scott Hatteberg and Javier Valentin could be dangerous. The Reds of 2009 are very different from the Reds of yesteryear (and, by yesteryear, I mean 3-4 years ago) b/c these Reds are going to go as far as their pitching will take them. They have the potential to have the second best staff in the division and, if they can pitch well, they could give the Cubs a run for their money.

Rotation: This is the strength of the Reds’ team. Last year their best starter was Edinson Volquez – acquired from the Rangers for Josh Hamilton – and he was fantastic. His 3.60 FIP tied Jake Peavy for 11th in the NL and was worth more than 4 wins. It’s conceivable he’ll take a step backward this year but he only threw 196 innings last year. It’s conceivable that he’ll be just as good or better also. He averaged more than 1 K per inning and only yielded 14 homers – largely due to a solid 46.3 % GB%. He is, without a doubt, one of the best young pitchers in the National League and could be a star this year or next.

The only other above average starter they had last year was Bronson Arroyo – 2.2 WAR. He’s almost the definition of average – a Kyle Lohse-like starter – whose 2008 FIP was 4.50. The once underappreciated Aaron Harang took a step backward last year despite a solid K/9 of 7.47 and BB/9 of 2.44. Both were slightly worse than ’07 and ’06 levels but Harang’s real problem was the long ball. His previous career high HR/9 was 1.45 in 2004 and in ’06 and ’07 it was a solid 1.08 and 1.09. Last year it was 1.71; he gave up 35 HR in 184.1 IP. He’s never been much of a ground ball pitcher – career GB% of 38.4% -- but last year saw a spike in his HR/FB. Among qualifying NL starters, only 4 had higher HR/FB than Harang. Some of that is probably due to pitching in Great America Ballpark, but he pitched there the last couple of years as well and yet his HR/FB went up by more than 3% in ’08. Some of that is just bad luck. There’s probably no reason Harang can’t be at least a league average pitcher for 200 innings this season. He was worth more than 15 wins from 2005-2007 so it’s not unreasonable to believe that he might be a 3.5 – 4 win player again in ’09. If so, the Reds’ rotation will be stout.

Following Volquez, Arroyo, and Harang are youngsters Johnny Cueto, Micah Owings, and Homer Bailey. Wouldn’t we love to have young arms like Volquez, Cueto and Bailey on our team? Cueto’s first 174 big league innings led to an FIP of 4.90 and he figures to improve steadily. He just turned 23 and had 2.32 K/BB last year as a 22 year old. Owings probably will never be more than a league average starter but he’s fairly young (26) had more than 2 K/BB last year and finished w/ a 4.73 FIP for the D-backs. He’s not a high-ceiling guy like Cueto or Bailey, but will probably be at least adequate at the back end of the Reds’ rotation. And if/when Bailey gets it together, Owings would be pretty decent trade bait or could make it in the pen. Without question, the Reds have the youth, the depth, and the high-ceiling guys that we lack. They may not become great this year, but Reds’ fans have a lot to look forward to from their rotation.

Bullpen: The Reds’ pen isn’t quite as good as their rotation. Like their rotation, though, they have some fairly high strikeout guys. Their closer is Francisco Cordero who is solid (though signed to an ungodly contract – 4 years, $46 M). They’ve got some pretty solid guys lying around as well – Jared Burton, Ramon Ramirez, former Card Mike Lincoln, Bill Bray and newcomer Arthur Rhodes can all throw the ball by you. David Weathers is their version of Ryan Franklin.

Catcher: The Reds traded for former Athletic and Oriole (A and O?) Ramon Hernandez this offseason. Hernandez has been right about a league average C (slightly lower) each of the last 2 seasons and should be an improvement over Paul Bako. In ’08, Hernandez through out an abominable 17.5% of potential basestealers. His backup will be Ryan Hanigan. I have to admit that I’m glad that I won’t have to see Javier Valentin grabbing a bat against us in the 8th or 9th inning w/ a chance to tie or win the game. He’s not much of a catcher (or physical specimen) but he can hit one a long way.

Infield: Joey Votto’s rookie season was pretty unheralded compared to Volquez’s fantastic campaign, but Votto turned in a very good season in ’08. His 3.7 WAR led the Reds. His OBP was .368; his SLG was .506 and his ISO was .209. His .373 wOBA was 3rd highest among NL first basemen behind two guys named Pujols and Berkman. His UZR was the highest among NL first basemen. Until Jay Bruce becomes the player we all expect him to be (this year?), Votto is the Reds’ best position player – and he’s only 25.

The Reds have 2 other above average infielders – Brandon Phillips and Edwin Encarnacion. Encarnacion’s much better at the plate (.351 wOBA to .324) while Phillips is much better in the field (11.4 UZR to minus 10.0). In truth, Encarnacion probably belongs in LF but until they get another 3B, that’s not going to happen. Despite Encarnacion’s poor defense, he still produced 2.1 WAR in ’08. The Reds’ SS is Alex Gonzalez (no, not the same one whose error while a Cub has been forgotten amidst the Steve Bartman circus). Gonzalez missed 2008 while having surgery to repair a fracture in his leg. He’s always been a plus defender from the SS position and has never had an OBP higher than the .325 he put up w/ the Reds in ’07. He does have a little pop but gets most of his value from his defense. Gonzalez has been nursing some hamstring issues this spring and, if he can stay healthy, should be able to be a near-league-average SS. If the Reds have to depend too much on Jeff Keppinger to play SS, their defense could be near the bottom of the NL again.

Outfield: The prize in the Reds’ OF is superstar-in-waiting Jay Bruce. Bruce struggled at times during his rookie year but this guy’s been a top prospect throughout his minor league career. PECOTA has him pegged for 28 HR and an .854 OPS and Chone has him pegged for 27 HR and an .843 OPS. He’ll play RF in the Reds’ revamped OF. The Reds’ new CF is Willy Taveras. He’ll take his career .331 OBP to the leadoff spot for Dusty Baker’s bunch. Of course, he’ll be an improvement over Corey Patterson who Baker let hit first 32 times last year and "amassed" a hacktastic .217 OBP from the leadoff spot. Patterson will make Willy T look like Wade Boggs up there. Taveras is a pretty poor offensive player and, for the last 2 years, has been a below average defensive player. He did steal 68 bags against 7 times caught in ’08. He’s the traditional leadoff type and definitively not the type of guy you want hitting first. He was the definition of replacement level last year (minus 0.3 WAR) and will hit leadoff for Dusty’s boys this year.

The other starter in the OF will be Chris Dickerson. The 26 year old was terrific in the 31 games he played for the Reds in ’08 (6 HR, .432 wOBA) but 31 games is just 31 games. Both PECOTA and Chone have him as adequate in his first full season (.763 and .749 OPS, respectively). Jacque Jones is hanging around in case Dickerson falters and Jonny Gomes should play against lefties. A platoon of Dickerson and Gomes or Jones and Gomes should be adequate, but not great by any means.

The bottom line for the Reds is that they have a ton of young guys and will improve as quickly as those guys do. If Bruce, Votto, and Volquez become stars and Cueto and Bailey become solid contributors, this team can be really good. That may or may not happen this year but there’s a lot to like if you’re a Reds’ fan. They also could be looking straight in the face of another 75 win season as well. It wouldn’t surprise me, however, if the Reds turn out to be the Cards’ main competition for 2nd place in the division.

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I second the thoughts on Valentin

I swear that all of his 4 career homers against the Cards had to have happened in the 9th inning or later. I don’t like the way that Chris Dickerson is starting off either, he seemed to kill the Cards last year.

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by mattyfrommo on Mar 29, 2009 1:25 PM EDT reply actions  

I agree with the assessment Chuck

The way I see the Division shaping up:
Reds on the rise, but still a year or two removed from contention
Astros on the decline, getting too old. Will make another late season push but again fall short.
Cubs still on top, but not by much. Age and lack of a farm system means the Cubs division dominance will soon come to an end.
Cards and Brewers will be the main contenders for 2nd place. The battle here is for the Wild Card. Whoever can be better than the second best team in the East will make the Central the division w/ two postseason teams yet again. That being said, I think the Brewers lost too much starting pitching and Torres retiring will hurt them more than they realize. I just hope the Cards can manage a better record than the Phillies or the Mets.
Pirates are headed for the basement again, but they’ll probably manage to take the season series against the Cards. Doumit is another Cardinal Killer.

By the way, I enjoyed your article in MSP Chuck!

Patiently awaiting the day Colby Rasmus does this: .275/.381/.551/.932, 29HR, in St. Louis...

by RunninRedbird on Mar 29, 2009 1:30 PM EDT reply actions  

nice article, chuck

You make a great case for the Reds improving across the board next year.

On the other hand, i think you might be understating just how far they have to go. Their team was the third worst in the majors last year by WAR, with only 19.8 WAR combined between their pitching staff, offense and defense. They had to gain 9.8 WAR (approx 2.5 Volquez units) just to catch up with the lowly astros, 16 to catch up with the brewers, and 22 to catch up with us.

Did they do it? I think the brewers and astros got worse, and the pirates probably didn’t improve. but I have a hard time believing they made up that much ground, unless they have a couple of guys just explode. it would take multiple simultaneous career years from someone like encarnacion or gonzalez to put them over the top of the astros, imho, and a lot of things would have to go wrong for us and the brewers for them to catch up. They just don’t have the core players right now.

- So, to ease his pain, you're supposed to take him to a ball game?
- Yes.

by SleepyCA on Mar 29, 2009 1:47 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah

they would have to have Votto play at least as well as last season and Bruce to arrive big time.

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 29, 2009 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

vegas

has chi 91.5 wins, stl 82.5, cin 80.5, mil 80.5, hou 74.5, pit 69.5
cin has 12 players making a mil or better. 10 of the 12 they can keep under team control if they choose to after 2009. they could have a nice blend of youth/vets the next two seasons.

by ball in play on Mar 29, 2009 2:15 PM EDT reply actions  

I think he already HAD a breakthrough year

He was a very good #2 starter for the Twins last year. I think he’s an elite pitcher already.

Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.

by Felonius_Monk on Mar 30, 2009 5:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Redlegs

Cincinatti is not a team to sneeze at this year. I doubt they’ll contend, but I don’t see how a rotation that includes Volquez and Harang (who did stink last year but is too good to stink that badly again in my book) and has the explosive potential of Cueto and Bailey can be a bad crew o’ five. If Bailey or Cueto don’t show improvement, Arroyo is still a passable arm. Three of those guys have big arms and the other has been pretty tough for several years. Look out.

Their position player crew isn’t bad either. Votto and Bruce should be a pretty formidable duo for years to come, and Encarnacion and Phillips bring a fair amount of power, if not OBP potential, to their lineup. This is a team moving in the right direction in my book.

"Your Holiness, I'm Joseph Medwick. I, too, used to be a Cardinal."-Joe Medwick, to Pope Pius XII.

by redbirdnation8206 on Mar 29, 2009 3:05 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm not sure they are moving in the right direction aside from letting their younger players get older and better

They have a good young core, but don’t want to spend any money so they are supplementing it with guys like Willy Taveras.

It’s not like this would ever happen, but if they would have gotten a guy like ManRam I’d be really worried about the reds this year.

by TheBirds on Mar 29, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Harang lost 30 lbs

that might put him back up into ace status, at least, arroyo theorized that he was the best pitcher in their staff today on MLB Network

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 29, 2009 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

With all that yong talent

I’m surprised Walt Jocketty hasn’t flipped them for something. If they are in the race close to the deadline it wouldn’t surprise me if a trade is made to make a playoff push.

by Evilfrog on Mar 29, 2009 3:59 PM EDT reply actions  

that's definitely a big question here.

jocketty being superimposed on a youth driven team and making ridiculous moves like getting taveras to be a starting cf. having a lot of youth won’t do them any good if he flips them to the mariners for carlos silva or some boneheaded veteran for prospects trade like that.

terrible fit of a gm to a club.

that said, if he can keep himself from dealing all these kids, I like their chances to improve over the next 2-3 years. even though the brewers get plaudits from a lot of commentators, their farm is about even with the cards and they don’t have the same financial resources as we do. i don’t see a solid rotation coming up in milwaukee, while there’s much more depth on the reds squad.milwaukee is just not going to contend without a better rotation.

by tom s. on Mar 29, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

if they're in the race

it’s b/c of those young guys. There’s no way he could trade his best pitchers (except maybe for a great year from Harang) or his best hitters and remain in the race. He’ll make a trade, but he wouldn’t be able to give up Bruce, Votto or Volquez for some veteran. Homer Bailey…maybe.

by chuckb on Mar 29, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with you

I’m a Reds fan, and so far Jocketty has done a pretty decent job as GM. He has the reputation of trading off the younger guys to get veterans, but so far the only real veteran that he’s traded for has been Ramon Hernandez. That was a case of trying to improve a position that we were awful at last season. Paul Bako was our main catcher fer crissakes. As much as you may fear Javy Valentin, he brought nothing to the table. He never caught, was a switch hitter that couldn’t hit from the right side, and had been coasting off the reputation of a couple home runs to win games from several years ago. No one made more outs to end games last year than he did. So while I’m not thrilled with Ramon Hernandez, he’s better than those jokers, and Jocketty managed to trade away Ryan Freel’s contract and suicidal tendencies to get him. A couple minor leaguers were included, but no one that was a true prospect.

Taveras is worrying, but I also wonder how much that was Dusty Baker’s call. When we played the Rockies last year and saw Taveras’s low OBP and SLG, but high stolen base numbers, we knew it was a matter of time before the Reds would try and get him. Dusty loves speedy centerfielders in the leadoff position (see Corey Patterson). The one thing I do fault Walt on is giving Taveras a two year contract. Chris Dickerson could easily play CF this year, and our prospect Drew Stubbs, who is reputed to be the best defender in the system, should be up in 2010. But Dusty has his favorites and Taveras is one of them, and Walt did enable him there.

However, Jocketty realizes that the team has strength in its youth. He hasn’t traded (or even indicated trading) any of the youngsters. His biggest trades have been to move Ken Griffey, Jr. and Adam Dunn. If the Reds should find themselves contending – a remote possibility, but a possibility nonetheless – he might move some youth, but we have the depth in the system to give up a chip if it brings us a valuable player in return. The most telling move this offseason was a nonmove, when Jocketty didn’t act on the myriad rumors of trading Homer Bailey for Jermaine Dye. Bailey had a terrible year last year (0-6, 7.93 ERA), but was just 22. His trade value was low, but his talent potential was still high. He seems to have turned a corner in the offseason and is shedding his rap for being immature and uncoachable. He had a terrific spring and is giving Owings all he can handle in the race for fifth starter. I fully expect him to pitch for the Reds this season and pitch well.

Jocketty seems to have a pretty good understanding of the direction the team is going, and is facilitating that pretty well. He proclaimed that finding a RH power bat for LF was the #1 priority in the offseason, then didn’t make any moves as Pat Burrell and Bobby Abreu signed affordable contracts. Instead, he picked up Jonny Gomes off the scrap heap, and Gomes has responded by tearing the cover off the ball in spring. He and Dickerson will platoon in left, and Jocketty will reassess the left field situation next year, when the Reds are truly expected to contend.

Sorry, that got kind of long-winded, but the point is that Jocketty has made good moves overall, and I’m trusting him to not break up our core of great, young players.

by Brendanukkah on Mar 30, 2009 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

thanks for coming by. we like getting input from reds fans.

that’s interesting about the Dye proposal — I would have thought that would have been something that walt would have jumped at. maybe you can teach an old dog new tricks.

lacking a ton of young pitchers, even struggling young pitchers, I’m a little bit jealous.

by tom s. on Mar 30, 2009 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree for the most part...

but I still think there was more to be had for Adam Dunn than what they got back. I don’t think Owings is going to be any more than a #5 starter and may be better off being rediscovered as a 1st baseman or right fielder. Obviously Griffey wasn’t worth much, so just dumping what was left of his contract on the Sox was a decent deal.

I think the non-deal for Dye tells you a whole lot though — that’s a deal that Walt would have made in St. Louis in a heartbeat. I also think that he’s going to win the Hamilton/Volquez trade before it’s all said and done, as Volquez looks to be anchoring your staff through at least his arbitration years. If Harang bounces back at all, I think that the Reds will outperform their Pythag record, but I’m not sure they have enough depth on the pitching staff to truly contend in the division.

"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller

by fourstick on Mar 30, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Contending in the division this year would be a pleasant surprise

Most folks at Red Reporter have circled 2010 as the year to really go for it. Owings has pitched really well this spring, and he had a shoulder injury last year, so we’ll see what we have there. I’m not too concerned about our starters. Besides Bailey, Daryl Thompson and Ramon Ramirez looked decent in limited appearances last year, so I think we’re covered in the case of minor injuries to the staff. The bullpen concerns me, and a lot depends on how well Cordero pitches. He’s been atrocious this spring, and there are some questions as to whether he’s 100% healthy.

It should also be noted that Wayne Krivsky made the Hamilton/Volquez trade. Jocketty was on staff as an advisor, so he may have had something to do with it, but he certainly doesn’t get full credit for it. As far as winning the trade goes, the kicker might come in the form of Danny Ray Herrera, who was a throw-in in the deal. In his debut last year, he struck out Ryan Howard and Pat Burrell, and prior to today had retired 22 of the 23 batters he’d faced this spring. There’s a good chance that he beats Bill Bray out for a spot in our bullpen.

Overall, the Reds figure to be an exciting team, held back by Dusty Baker’s baffling in-game management and lineup construction. Taveras leading off? Brandon Phillips batting cleanup? A professed dedication to “havoc on the basepaths” when in general we are a very bad baserunning team? We’ll see how that pans out. Still, this is the most optimistic I’ve been about the team in a long time. We should be good this year, and I’ll be happy just to have our first winning record since 2000. The young core of a really good team is in place, and the Reds seem to have a clear organizational direction.

by Brendanukkah on Mar 30, 2009 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmm

I haven’t seen that from any Reds sources, but it wouldn’t be much of a surprise. He came into spring training with shoulder tendinitis, then tweaked a hamstring. If he doesn’t start the season in AAA, then a stint on the DL would also be likely.

by Brendanukkah on Mar 31, 2009 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Off-topic alert!

What will Julian say next?" target="new"> could become a fun new game for Nats fans.

by cardsgirl95 on Mar 29, 2009 5:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Awesome

He’s pretty much a model for what NOT to say or do as a major leaguer.

by cloistermaximus on Mar 29, 2009 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

the Reds won't really be successful till they get rid of Dusty

he’s a big reason why they didn’t contend last year, and although they’ll make some noise this year, i still don’t think they’ll reach their full potential till they get a new manager. they have the makings of a very good team, but i really do think he’s one of their biggest problems keeping them from being a true challenger for the division.

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by gdm426 on Mar 29, 2009 5:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Harang was a Dusty casualty last year.

in an 18 inning game Dusty allowed Harang to throw over 60 pitches in relief, and he came back to start on regular rest. He wasn’t the same after that, and spent a month on the DL with a strained elbow.

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by justin007000 on Mar 29, 2009 6:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Dusty Baker just amazes me.

The fact that Corey Patterson (OPS+ of 48) got nearly 400 PAs last year, more than a third of them at leadoff, tells you everything you need to know.

by MdRedbirdFreak on Mar 29, 2009 6:43 PM EDT reply actions  

The funny part is...

they’re replacing him with Willy Taveras. He’s just as bad!

Felipe Lopez - next year's Joel Pineiro (on another team, thank you Mo!)

by DiscoJer on Mar 29, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

as I point out above

he’s not quite that bad. In fact, his career OBP of .324 is a marked improvement over Patterson. It’s still awful, especially for a leadoff hitter, but Patterson is exactly that horrendous.

by chuckb on Mar 29, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

NIce wrap

but I have one sincere question: Does anybody really think Homer Bailey is going to be something special? I have seen him pitch on three occasions and his stuff was not impressive. He seems like a flyball pitcher pitching in a bandbox. I know he put up pretty good K/9 in the minors, but I don’t see that happening in the bigs.

I know he is really young, but his stuff looks like 4/5 starter to me.

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by giveml on Mar 29, 2009 7:06 PM EDT reply actions  

he has been pitching with leg problems over the past two seasons.

he had a groin problem during his first taste of the big leagues in 2007, and he had knee problems which required some minor surgery last year.

Yes his stuff has not been as impressive as we were told it was, but it may come back now that he has his legs under him.

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by justin007000 on Mar 30, 2009 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

#24

i was watching fox2 earlier and they said he wants to be called Dick Ankiel from now on…

by adiueordie on Mar 29, 2009 7:50 PM EDT reply actions  

so

when i was looking for dick’s mlb/gameday pic, i checked out a few others…

this disturbs me

he looks completely ripped

kenny powers?

by adiueordie on Mar 29, 2009 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are we gonna have to nickname this year's team the Mustache Rides?

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by jd is legend on Mar 29, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I always pick the Reds as a dark horse candidate.

Aaron Harang is always my dark horse candidate to come out and finally put up a career year and win himself a Cy Young too. I’m always wrong about that, but I like a lot of players and pitchers on their club. Maybe I’ll be right one of these years.

The Reds have a long way to go, but a good pitching staff can shorten the distance. If one or two players really break out, they will have a much improved ball club. Contend? Not yet. Maybe in 2010 or 2011.

Oh, Micah Owings is one of the players they got for Adam Dunn. He’s slated to be the 5th starter and they plan to use him as a pinch hitter on his non starting days.

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by jillsinmo on Mar 29, 2009 9:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh, and replying to myself...

For theall five of you who banged your head against the wall over Luis Perdomo being left unprotected for the Rule 5, it might amuse you to learn that the Cleveland Plain Dealer is reporting that the Indians are attempting to get Perdomo from the Giants. They’ll have Reyes AND the player they traded for him. That would be a nifty bit of GM’ing there, wouldn’t it?

She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.

by jillsinmo on Mar 29, 2009 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

we could always

trade them Brian Barton for a fungo bat to be named later and go for the trifecta!

by chuckb on Mar 29, 2009 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

FBTBNL

FTW

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by jd is legend on Mar 29, 2009 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sounds good on paper,

but Cleveland kept the outfielders they preferred to Barton in their system. If I were a betting woman, I’d bet they’d pass. Maybe it was a brand new fungo bat right out of the box….

She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.

by jillsinmo on Mar 29, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

reminds me of my dogs

the one will leave a play toy sitting in the middle of the room and ignore it for days, but if the other one happens by and picks it up, they fight over it.

typically leads to all the play toys being stashed behind the couch, where they forget they are there. or hidden somewhere so i’ll step on them in the middle of the night.

- So, to ease his pain, you're supposed to take him to a ball game?
- Yes.

by SleepyCA on Mar 29, 2009 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

OT: does it bother anyone

that the BotB have lost 5 ST games in a row now? With the season about a week away?

There was Gibson in the Reds' dugout, visibly manhandling about three Reds and tossing them bodily out of the dugout and onto the field...He was the toughest athlete mentally I ever saw, and the greatest competitor. JACK BUCK

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Mar 29, 2009 10:11 PM EDT reply actions  

It bothers me.

I know that ST stats and W-L records don’t matter and I try not to let it bother me, but it still does somehow. I like Winning. All. The. Time.

by cardsgirl95 on Mar 29, 2009 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm more worried about Rick Ankiel wanting to change his name

but the worry has crossed my mind. Losing streaks are, like, so 2006.

- So, to ease his pain, you're supposed to take him to a ball game?
- Yes.

by SleepyCA on Mar 29, 2009 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dick Ankiel

sounds like a porn star’s name, not a baseball player’s.

by chuckb on Mar 29, 2009 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's a multitasker

so, hey, who knows?

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by Alxfritz on Mar 31, 2009 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

nice analysis

I’d wager that the Chone projection will be the most accurate

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 29, 2009 11:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Impressive rundown of the Reds

You got everything pretty much right. We’ll go as far as our pitching will take us, and we have some impressive youth to build on (and more coming up from the minors). You correctly pegged SS as a big hole, and even if Alex Gonzalez is healthy this year, there’s a big question about how useful he’ll be. He was always valued for his defense, but it started to slip in ‘07 and then he missed all of ’08 with a broken kneecap. Does he have the range? Will he contribute anything with his bat, like in his career year in ’07? Are we going to be relying on Jerry Hairston, Jr. and Jeff Keppinger? Why didn’t we slide Brandon Phillips to shortstop and go after Orlando Hudson in free agency? Sigh.

Still, the Reds are definitely a team on the rise, and as a Reds fan, it’s the best I’ve felt about the team in probably a decade. Who knows what will happen this year? I’m hoping for a winning season, but contention may even be a possibility, though they’re just as likely to win 73 games. Next year though. Next year.

by Brendanukkah on Mar 30, 2009 11:51 AM EDT reply actions  

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