Looking for a Strikeout-bites-Greene story
by DanUpBaby on Mar 10, 2009 8:00 AM EDT
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PrintAt 12:05 the Cardinals return to action against the Tigers. April-is-coming moment of the, I guess, moment: yesterday, for the first time this year, I got the off-kilter, uncomfortable feeling that mostly bears down on summer nights when the Cardinals are not playing. Off-day jitters.
Your disembodied heads:
Miner
Lohse
Zach Miner, St. Louis native, reminds me statistically of our very own WonderBrad—a swingman with strikeout issues whose major league spot is constantly at risk because he doesn't "look" like a one inning reliever. Lohse can't strike people out, either, and he certainly wouldn't look like a one inning reliever—this is the difference between getting a regular spot in the rotation and proving you're durable and not making forty million dollars.
The P-D's big story today is about Tyler Greene, who would be bigger news in a camp that wasn't turning outfielders into second basemen and choosing between Ryan Franklin and two youngsters who throw five hundred miles an hour for the closer's role. Against those storylines, first-rounder makes good just doesn't hold any water.
Worse yet, if we accept that Greene is a big enough deal—close enough to the majors, in some capacity—to get the big Cardinals story, even in the middle of the World Baseball Classic, we have to actually look at his numbers. Which is unpleasant.
Before we do that, I'd like to make it clear that Tyler Greene is exactly the kind of utility infielder I end up overplaying in Baseball Mogul. He runs fast, he hits home runs, and his defense is just good enough that I can use it to delude myself into justifying his playing time when my boring 83/100 shortstop goes down with a knee injury. If Tyler Greene makes the Cardinals this year it will only be my distance from the reins that keeps that exact scenario from playing out in July.
That said, look at these:
| G | AB | H | 2B | 3B | HR | K% | BB% | AVG | OBP | SLG |
| 130 | 491 | 124 | 18 | 4 | 20 | 32 | 10 | .253 | .339 | .428 |
| 65 | 221 | 54 | 17 | 2 | 8 | 28 | 7 | .244 | .309 | .448 |
| 127 | 485 | 123 | 22 | 4 | 16 | 28 | 7 | .254 | .311 | .414 |
For all the talk about reinvention and rediscovery that follows every weird twist and turn of the Tyler Greene story, those are his numbers since his ambiguous 2005 debut. That's what he's done, three times in a row, at four different levels.
There are excuses to be made, and I've made them all: he blew his knee out just as he was getting it together in 2007; he struggled in one league before tearing up another in 2006. He's remade his swing and refocused his efforts more times than he's walked. The problem is simple: right now he is too close to the very edge of the OBP cliff to be expected to stay on the right side of it in the majors.
I'll keep rooting for a Chris Duncan breakout—in which an unimpressive but discernibly real improvement in the minors pays major dividends in the big leagues—but the thing about those is that you can't tell they're happening until they've happened. In the meantime we have what we've always had: his tools, his power and his astounding base stealing prowess, to egg us on toward new breakouts and mechanical adjustments, the stats to kill our enthusiasm with their narrative flatness. For all the new things promised and worked on, nothing's happened.
Finally, a programming note: SBN has changed ad providers, and as a result you might witness, over the next few days, some phenomena that can accurately and succinctly be described as weirdness. Thus far I have seen a prominent ad for Kidz Bop 15, which I can recommend primarily out of The Jungle-style curiosity w.r.t. the preparation of a Katy Perry song for pre-pre-teen consumption, and an ad that crawls across the horizontal space of the blog, which, much like Katy Perry, I cannot recommend at all. Bear with us.
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and I take a look...
at the first two ads that I see…vodka and gambling…not as bad as katy perry’s music…
Agreed
Her music is horrible, but I could watch her videos on mute all day long…
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
You guys clearly haven't been a party when "I kissed a girl" plays
I love that song.
Not afraid to nitpick
don't party much...
married and all. I hate that song!! Not only because it’s horrid, but once I hear it I can’t get it out of my head!
Sometimes I wonder,
"Why is that frisbee getting bigger?"
...and then it hits me!!
by cardzfanbub on Mar 10, 2009 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions
You're hot and you're cold, you're yes and you're no.........
I kinda like that song but it gets in my head and stays there all day. I hate “I Kissed a Girl” but I can’t say I have been at a house party when it came on so that may change my tune about it.
Does anyone else think she wears too much makeup? I think she’s hotter without it.
most girls are
makeup abuse is one of my pet peeves.
"i have a feeling the answers are bigger than the questions" -Dr Heyward Floyd
by SleepyCA on Mar 10, 2009 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
my sister has that ring tone
and every time i hear it, it makes me want to punch babies. i can’t stand this girl or her “music”. she’s an unattractive no talent hack who’s only popular because she did a song about kissing other girls
BEN MOTHERHUSHYOURMOUTH SHEETS
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
That is some pretty harsh words to say about your sister
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Mar 10, 2009 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
i see what you did there
well played
BEN MOTHERHUSHYOURMOUTH SHEETS
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
that's the problem with music these days
it’s not really music, it’s an image
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 10, 2009 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree with the image thing
also everything is such a formula these days.
Who out there thought the Theory of a deadman song “Bad Girlfriend” was Nickleback when you first heard it?
I know I did.
They all record the same with the same production, same instruments and try to copy eachother just to make it big.
if there IS anything good and original out there it sure as hell isnt being signed or pushed by labels.
They have also figured out whats the point in letting a band make multiple albums when one hit wonder after another makes them just as much money (if not more, since they can rape them)
Dont take me seriously :-D
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by jealousblues on Mar 10, 2009 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
so many pop songs now
are just cut and paste protools generic garbage, some musicians don’t even learn the whole song and just loop little parts.
another problem is bands trying to copy each other too much, and record labels encouraging this through their marketing approach. leads to a bad culture.
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 10, 2009 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
i really disagree with this
there is a TON of indy/small record label stuff available now compared to what was available in the 80’s and 90’s. You might not be able to buy it at wal-mart or hear it on the radio, but if you go looking for it there are hundreds and hundreds of good bands and musicians selling their work online that couldn’t have existed before, at least in the genres I listen to. There are more prog metal bands putting out CD’s than I have time to listen to nowadays, etc.
We’re really in a golden age of music, imho.
"i have a feeling the answers are bigger than the questions" -Dr Heyward Floyd
by SleepyCA on Mar 10, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed
Although why aren’t these bands marketed? We keep getting that same shit shoved down our throat all the time and the labels even control a lot of the critics it seems like.
For instance, Britney Spears new album was given 3-4 stars by a ton of major publications, including Rolling Stone. Then you listen to it and realize that her voice is so squawk-boxed they could have made the album with any other singer who smokes two packs a day. It’s overproduced, self-promotable CRAP!
U2’s new album just got 5 stars and it’s the worst U2 album that I’ve heard in 20 years. There’s no continuity to it and it’s a huge departure from what has worked for them in the past. It’s like Tom Petty trying to play Metallica or Michael Jordan trying to play baseball: it doesn’t work, and there’s not even one good single on that record. I love Springsteen, but he could come out with an album of old folk tunes and get 5 stars….oh wait, he did that a couple of years ago.
I’m finding that the more live music I go see, the more the labels don’t have a clue as to what is popular because they control all aspects of the radio and marketing arms, people pretty well buy what you tell them to buy as a whole. Kid Rock being the prime example of that. He rips off Lynyrd Skynyrd and the late, great Warren Zevon and puts crappy lyrics to the mash-up and the song helps the album go triple platinum because of execs forcing it onto the radio. I didn’t hear anyone calling in to request that song, yet it got radio play all the time. Hmmmmmm…payola much?
I fear that if the satellite radio companies go south, we’re going to get less and less variety to listen to and more and more of the same old shit because it’s easy to market and sell arena concert tickets to. Sirius and XM have been subsidizing some of the indie seen by paying them for airplay on some of their alternative stations. Without that, and with Ticketmaster possibly merging with Live Nation, the smaller acts are going to get squeezed out as the major acts sign 360 deals that end up being cash cows for both the band and the label.
While there are people like Colbie Caillet who have broken out on their own through outlets like MySpace, but she still needed major label support to get on the radio in major markets and make her a breakout star.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on Mar 10, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
marketing , etc.
the reasons those bands aren’t marketed is that compared to a Britney, U2, Coldplay, the potential market share for these cool bands is negligible. So the major labels decide it’s not worth it. The major labels are like Wonder bread now. Made for the Average Joe that doesn’t know or care to know about other options that are out there.
You basically gotta search around for good music. As someone said before, there’s a ton of it out there, but your not going to find it on a major label or on free radio.
It’s good news/bad news for the bands (I’m a musician myself). On the one hand, it’s harder than ever to “make it big”. On the other hand, chances were pretty slim for that anyway, and at least now you can easily make your own music and self-market it, sell it on iTunes, etc.
youneverknow
by floodOfLove on Mar 10, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm not a music person
But this sounds very familiar:
Major network/money pumps into shittiness into the mainstream because “Average” comprehension frequently seems disturbingly low (I’m so pompous I know) but if you go to the internet you can find yourself some intelligence. Is there a Viva El NotMassProducedBands out there?
Not afraid to nitpick
Internet Radio
I listen to Radio Paradise (www.radioparadise.com) at work all day (assuming I’m close enough to a computer). Lots of quality classic rock, tons of indie artists, more foreign music (Indian, Swedish, French, etc.) than you could imagine. I probably own 25-30 amazing cd’s from bands nobody has ever heard of, that I picked up listening to their site.
That said, the Cubs do deserve my pity, but never my support.
I"m a big fan of Radio Paradise
It’s nice not having to register and log in to get free music streamed to you…
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
pandora.com
is very interesting, you type in a band that you like and it will play bands that sound similar to that one, based on algorithmic analysis of the spectrum and rhythm of the song
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 10, 2009 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
pandora annoys me
because if I start a rockabilly station or something, and happen to say I like something thats a little bit different…
it decides it wants to forget everything I liked before and play that
Dont take me seriously :-D
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by jealousblues on Mar 10, 2009 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
That sounds awesome
I’d be interested to see that algorithm, too
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by jd is legend on Mar 10, 2009 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions
it used to be called
The Music Genome Project… that was the precursor to Pandora.com
not sure how they did it, but they analyzed thousands of songs by timbre, beats per minute, time signature, etc. and figured out how to compare them. I think it’s pretty amazing, although since I actively seek out new music, I don’t really need it. If I didn’t have as much time to read up on music, listen to it so much, etc. I’d probably be on there all the time.
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 10, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Cool
Since alot of the work I do is in genomics and algorithms, etc., that sounds very interesting to me.
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by jd is legend on Mar 10, 2009 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions
awesome
I kind of wish I would have went to college for that instead of art school.
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 10, 2009 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah,
if you click a link it will say “why was this song chosen?”
or something like that
then it was say
“subtle use of vocal harmony, acousitc guitar, southwestern style” or some other random crap like that that makes more sense than what I wrote
Dont take me seriously :-D
www.GriffinandtheGargoyles.com www.myspace.com/GriffinandtheGargoyles
take guitar lessons from me!
by jealousblues on Mar 10, 2009 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
there are too many of that type of band, and they are specialized so they are not going to make a big label much money in the end. you are totally right, there is some dualism at play, it’s harder than ever to make it as a musician, but there are many more opportunities and ways of getting exposure for your music. now if only musicians had the funds to advertise their stuff like a big label does.
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 10, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
regional music
It’s funny, but I think we’re headed back to regional music. A long time ago, bands would have “hits” that were only popular in their own home towns and possibly nearby towns. Then there was push to make “stars” to sell tons of records. Now that scheme is breaking down (in some ways at least) and more and more bands are working at building regional followings. I’m seeing that here in DC. Some local bands from here are great and do really well locally, but can’t get arrested 200 miles west of here.
youneverknow
hmm
yeah, you’re right. it is cheaper too to tour if you stay within your region.
also, to address what sleepyca was saying, I think there’s different levels of pop music, some of it is internationally popular, some of it nationally, some of it regionally, some of it just in parts of a city, some of it (like my music) is just listened to by friends and random people on the internet.
but whatevs, it is mindblowing how much music there is out there! it’s also mindblowing that the people who make the most money off of it are not very good musicians! the music world is totally backwards.
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 10, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions
well said!
I have folks that ask me all the time why I haven’t become a famous-rich guitar player. My reply: I don’t have the 6-pack abs for it nor am I interested in getting tattoed. Most people now “listen” to music with their eyes (i.e. the images that come w/ the music drive their enjoyment levels much more than the actual music itself).
youneverknow
I liked it much better
when musicians were supposed to be dirty, ugly and smelly. it’s like they took away the cool factor.
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 10, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
ACDC is the ultimate of this astethic (sp)
Not my favorite band but its cool there were just some ugly normal guys playing rock n roll music
Dont take me seriously :-D
www.GriffinandtheGargoyles.com www.myspace.com/GriffinandtheGargoyles
take guitar lessons from me!
by jealousblues on Mar 10, 2009 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
or any band before MTV really
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 10, 2009 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions
just out of curiousity what band do you play with?
Dont take me seriously :-D
www.GriffinandtheGargoyles.com www.myspace.com/GriffinandtheGargoyles
take guitar lessons from me!
by jealousblues on Mar 10, 2009 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
ah hell
since this has turned halfway into a music thread, here’s my stuff (I know you were asking floodoflove, but what the hey)
http://www.reverbnation.com/georgebowles
http://www.reverbnation.com/sitari
sorry!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 10, 2009 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions
cool stuff
I like the soundscape/ambient sounds in your music. I really need to get into the whole looping thing. The closest I get to that sort of thing is by maxing out my two delay pedals.
youneverknow
line 6 delay modeller
is nice thing to have
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 11, 2009 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Where are your albums sold?
Can I get them through eMusic or Amazon.com? Or do I need to order online somewhere?
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
I'm working on that, I will keep you posted fourstick!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 11, 2009 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Just shoot me an email...
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
my bands
my main bands are the Thrillbillys (roots rock, garage, swing, surf) and Ruthie and the Wranglers (honky tonk country)
http://mysite.verizon.net/vamahr/Thrillbillys.html (there’s a CD baby link you can use to check out samples of our tunes)
http://www.ruthieandthewranglers.com/
Sorry for the delay in getting back to you.
Andy
youneverknow
not usually into country
but it sounds good
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 11, 2009 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions
"random people on the internet"
Yeah, I do like your music.
"That annoys the you-know-what out of me." - Bud Selig
awesome!
random!
is!
the!
Best!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 10, 2009 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions
i think this is a fantastic post
Dont take me seriously :-D
www.GriffinandtheGargoyles.com www.myspace.com/GriffinandtheGargoyles
take guitar lessons from me!
by jealousblues on Mar 10, 2009 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
if you turn to rolling stone to tell you what to listen to, you're a tool
i’m not saying you are fourstick, not at all. i’m just saying that rag hasn’t been relevant in 30 years, and no one should pay attention to it anymore. your cool dude, just want to make that clear.
BEN MOTHERHUSHYOURMOUTH SHEETS
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
as much as I dislike the website
pitchforkmedia.com has a lot of variety on it…
since I’m a “rock” guy, I also check out blabbermouth.net, and theprp.com for music news and reviews. not exactly rolling stone, heh.
also, if you want to purchase music from do it yourself bands, cdbaby.com is awesome, and it has good reviews, etc. I had a great find in the bargain section, got a cd for just a few bucks and it was some jazz band I never heard of before from Philadelphia or something.
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 10, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
CD Baby ROCKS!
and I don’t just say that cuz my bands have CDs for sale there. As far as you know anyway…
I think CD baby also has the ’if you like this band…" feature too.
youneverknow
do you print your own cds to send to cd baby?
or did you use some kind of service like reverbnation? I think I’m going to pay reverbnation the $35 to put one of my cds on all the mp3 sites, as well as cdbaby. I’m guessing though, that it would just be mp3s and no cds on cdbaby, but maybe things have changed over there recently
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 10, 2009 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions
CD Baby
The Thrillbillys printed our CDs at Oasis and then we mail them to CD Baby. Unfortunately, at the moment the songs are not available via mp3 format. One of the guys in the band was a little uncomfortable w/ copyright aspects etc. so we ended up not choosing the mp3 format as an option. On our next CD I’m going to make sure we do choose the mp3 format.
I think that the way CD Baby works is they let you know when your stock is low, then you send them more CDs. They start w/ a low number inventory, and then I think you have you send double the next time. Something like that. I’m just the guitar player, so I don’t know all the details.
youneverknow
Be careful with the mp3's
I still buy a lot of my music in CD format so that I can rip it at a lossless bit rate. I have high end stereo equipment for playback both in my car an at my house (where I funnel everything through my mom’s old Marantz tube amplifier from 1965 — it makes everything sound AWESOME) and anything less than a 256 rip just doesn’t sound right in mp3 because there’s too many layers missing.
I do own some stuff on vinyl, but I’m not a one of those audiophiles wants to own everything in vinyl. We have broadband in this country now — we can afford to create high quality mp3 rips to download.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
This might interest you
Young people prefer the sound of highly compressed MP3s to uncompressed audio, study shows.
Stat Whore
by FlimtotheFlam on Mar 11, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
This goes back to the whole notion
of liking what you hear most of the time. Radio stations have actually turned up the volume of their broadcasts because of this factor too. Wired magazine did a feature on this sometime in the last year, I remember reading it.
Also, most of the headphones these kids are hearing the music through are crap. If they listened through a decent pair of Bose headphones or high quality ear molded headphones like mine (they are the Shure brand that they make ear monitors out of for bands like U2 or John Mayer, about $500 or so, but totally worth it if you use them because they’ll last forever), they might think differently. Also, they’ve probably never heard compressed audio “warmed up” through a tube amplifier — it sounds like shit. Uncompressed digital is clean and has a warmer feel to it.
I downloaded the raw version of Nine Inch Nails’ album last year and it blew my mind. These files are so big they’d barely fit on a DVD, but they are the RAW digital tracks straight out of the digital recorder in the studio. I’ve also had a ton of success with LAME encoded tracks as someone else mentioned here.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
tube amplifiers make most things sound like shit
unless you’re listening on headphones. but i digress.
Anyway, dynamic compression, or “loudness”, is the devil. Dynamic compression here is not the same as “data compression” which is used to describe the bit rate of mp3’s. By increasing the dynamic compression, you can make a given music sample sound louder than it is, at the expense of dynamic range. Very loud bits will be reduced in volume or quiet bits will be increased in volume, depending on what the recording engineer chooses to do.
This is fine (or even preferred) if you are listening to the recording in a noisy environment, like on a plane or in a subway, but it’s miserable if you are listening to quality gear in a nice room or listening on a high quality car audio system, especially for percussion instruments and staging. You lose a significant amount of “sizzle” because the “attack” and the “decay” is less crisp, ambient sounds are greatly reduced in effect, and vocals sound less integrated and more sibilant.
Great articles about it here (scroll down):
"i have a feeling the answers are bigger than the questions" -Dr Heyward Floyd
did you hear all the hooplah about the last Metallica cd? there was actually a movement of people trying to get their money back because the mastering was too compressed and the loudness too high. I got a bootleg remastered version which sounded better, but ultimately, the music was just boring so it didn’t matter
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 11, 2009 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions
totally agree
I rip stuff at the highest setting, and 256 should be the minimum, otherwise you are listening to a pale imitation of the original.
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 11, 2009 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
I read Rolliing Stone
not for the music columns at all — I skip straight to the investigative reporting that they do. I know it has a liberal slant to it, and I’m ok with that, because I like getting both sides of an issue. Guys like Taibbi do a great job covering politics (for the most part, I object to some of his writing when he comes of as a snarky jackass) and they consistently have some of the better investigative journalistic features around.
I agree, I don’t think it’s relevant to the music industry anymore because it seems like they’ve settled on pimping mainstream acts and completely obscure bands (the shit that David Fricke likes) but not being a friend to the individual artists like they used to be.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
i had no idea they cover anything but music, movie, etc
i can’t remember the last time i read one. or for that matter the last time i saw one on a newsstand.
BEN MOTHERHUSHYOURMOUTH SHEETS
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
i really like the new U2 album
but it certainly doesnt desirve that rating.
its Almost backgroundish music.
i mean not one great single on it, but its got some interesting music
Dont take me seriously :-D
www.GriffinandtheGargoyles.com www.myspace.com/GriffinandtheGargoyles
take guitar lessons from me!
by jealousblues on Mar 10, 2009 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions
i heard my first single from it on the radio the other day
and my wife and i kept asking each other, “this sucks…why isn’t it over by now?” “seriously, pull out the johnny cash number from zooropa if you’ve got 6:30 to fill with U2, this is pretty bad”
"Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals." --Churchill
My point is...
I don’t mind when bands go out on a limb and experiment, and U2 has done plenty of that over the course of their career as a band.
It’s not a horrible album, but when I buy a U2 album, I expect to hear something that sounds similar to U2. If I wanted an album of crappy background music, I’d go buy a Pearl Jam album or something (ZING!!!). It’s like watching a movie trailer where they outline a movie as an action film — then you see it and the one action scene in it is in the trailer and the rest of the movie is a chick flick. It’s just false advertising.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
In a related note
I have seen Michael Jordan play baseball
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by jd is legend on Mar 10, 2009 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions
that is true
but I think we were talking about mainstream stuff
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 10, 2009 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
ah, but i have zero interest in prog metal
;-)
Dont take me seriously :-D
www.GriffinandtheGargoyles.com www.myspace.com/GriffinandtheGargoyles
take guitar lessons from me!
by jealousblues on Mar 10, 2009 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions
that's ok
because that’s probably my favorite genre ;0)
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 10, 2009 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I have this discussion on other forums too
and I am talking about mainstream stuff.
certainly there are great bands out there but they get zero national interest and zero radio play.
so its weird.
im in a cover band and its REALLY hard to find good new songs to play. Look at all the top cover bands right now, they are all retro gimick act fwiw (not that there is ANYTHING wrong with that).
Dont take me seriously :-D
www.GriffinandtheGargoyles.com www.myspace.com/GriffinandtheGargoyles
take guitar lessons from me!
by jealousblues on Mar 10, 2009 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions
speaking of cover bands....
my roommate tried to buy some Beatles songs last night, and she couldn’t find anything other than Beatles cover bands… I tried to help her and it was the same thing for me. just Beatles cover bands, no Beatles. I guess they don’t sell their mp3s? you have to buy a physical copy of the album?
what songs do you guys cover? classics, newer stuff, mix?
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 10, 2009 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions
was this on itunes?
I recalled looking on Itunes and only being able to find covers for the Beatles too.
though I thought there whole catalog was supposed to be on there, but my memory is shaky.
We do some of everything. Depending on where, the crowd, what event.
the five piece does more alt rock, dance, pop, and 70s and 80s
and the 3-4 piece does all that but more oldies going all the way back to Sinatra for weddings and Cafe Eau and stuff.
but both bands can play the exact same music.
Check the text urls below my post and we have a song list on our page as well as some clips. and we have many more clips on the myspace (some live)
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by jealousblues on Mar 10, 2009 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions
yep
she was looking on iTunes, then I thought I’d swoop in and say “here they are” by going to amazon.com mp3 store, but the same thing happened, just cover bands. neither of the stores probably have the right to sell the tunes, so that’s why all the cover bands popped up I guess.
you guys are pros
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 10, 2009 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions
weird, I didnt know they werent on Amazon either.
I remember looking for “In my life” on Itunes and being unable to find it and being slighty annoyed.
Thank you, sir
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by jealousblues on Mar 10, 2009 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions
oh, btw we are playing at Paddy O's before the game opening day
Im not sure of the time. My GFs mom got us tickets too!
SO I go play, tear down. Have my brother take my stuff then run to the game.
Sweet.
I hope I dont miss any of the pre game stuff though. That would suck.
Its the small group for anyone interested in swinging by.
Sorry if this comes off as promotion. I try not too…too much ;-)
But it is baseball related and I figure I could get a chance to meet some of you guys.
this will be my first opening day ever so im pretty excited .
does anyone know the time the game/fanfare starts?
I think we go from 1-3 but I could be way wrong. I wont be missing anything will i?
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by jealousblues on Mar 10, 2009 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Beatles
They pulled all their mp3 tunes out for some reason. I own all the anthologies that they put together in the late 1990’s which showcase all their tunes, some live versions, and some interviews. If you’re really into the Beatles, I highly recommend buying these on CD.
I didn’t buy the original albums or records because my mom has all of them on vinyl and I’m already written into the will for her entire vinyl collection because I didn’t want my two brothers (who could give a shit less) to put them up for auction. I could put my kids and grandkids and their grandkids through school with what I could sell her collection for I think…
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
The Beatles Anthologies are awesome.
I actually like a couple anthology versions better than the album versions, such as “It’s Only Love” which, since I heard it for the first time on the anthology, has become one of my sentimental favorite songs of ever. The trippy lounge-y vibraphone version of “I’m Only Sleeping” is awesome.
pleasenotylergreenepleasenotylergreenepleasenotylergreenepleasenotylergreenepleasenotylergreenepleasenotylergreenepleasenotylergreenepleasenotylergreene
please.
30% K rate. Ugh. He can’t, and won’t, hit at major league level, and doesn’t defend as well (or as flexibly, position-wise) as Ryan or Barden. No thankyah sir.
Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.
Adam Dunn has a career K rate of 32.4%
You wouldn’t want him? Of course, his BB rate is almost twice what Greene’s is, but that’s not what you were arguing.
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by jd is legend on Mar 10, 2009 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions
The OBP is properly recognized
But, you also forgot the homers. Lots and lots and lots of homers. 40 or more in each of the last five years. Strikeouts aren’t unbearable if you walk 100+ times and OPS .850 to .900+. Unfortunately for us, Tyler Greene does not have that kind of power or that good of an eye.
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--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
outstanding evaluations,
by not being blindsided from putting strikeout totals under the microscope, by jd and bgh.
our own ludwick had 146 K’s on the season and finished 9th in mlb in batting runs with a obp/slg/ops of .375 / .591 / .966
sizemore with 130 K’s ranked 12 in mlb in batting runs, .374 / .502 / .876
such a pleasure to see “big picture” evaluations, well done.
by ball in play on Mar 10, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Good point about the homers and SLG
And agreed. Just saying a high K rate doesn’t hang a ballplayer.
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by jd is legend on Mar 10, 2009 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
No but...
A high K rate married to a low BB rate does.
He has no recognition of the strikezone. Just because AAA pitchers occasionally hang one right down the pipe and he hits it out of the park now and again, doesn’t mean that MLB pitchers won’t see that he swings when a seagull flies past.
They’ll just work him down and away, down and away, and he’ll keep swinging and striking out.
A .300-ish OBP in the high minors is horrible too. He’s a mediocre-glove Izturis with a bit more power. Ugh.
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by Felonius_Monk on Mar 10, 2009 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Perhaps to more fully expand...
I believe Greene’s been pushed hard by the organisation perhaps because he’s seen as more of a “prospect” than our other (equally as good or better) AAAA MIFs because he’s a first-round draft pick.
I think that’s a little unfair on Brian Barden, in particular, who’s shown in the minors that he can play 2B, SS and 3B (not just SS) and who has better hitting stats, and a better glove than Greene. So why isn’t he the next in line? It’s somewhat odd.
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by Felonius_Monk on Mar 10, 2009 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
barden's glove is better than Greene's?
I don’t know that he isn’t, but this would be surprising considering Barden was moved out of the MI by Arizona and Greene is supposed to be pretty good.
I don’t have much faith that either could hit at the MLB level…
"i have a feeling the answers are bigger than the questions" -Dr Heyward Floyd
Possibly
I’m only going on reports and the very limited minor league fielding data (which have Barden as a + 2B at every level he’s played and seem to regard Greene as a somewhat below-average SS). I’m sure I’d also read somewhere that Greene’s glove wasn’t that great, but I may be mistaken.
Also, you’re right, Barden played 2B and mostly 3B for Arizona in AA and AAA but he moved back to SS and 2B (seemingly fairly successfully) in Memphis. Also, he split time between 2B, 3B and SS in his last year (2007) in the DBacks organisation. Seems he had a half-decent year in 2008 with the glove in Memphis. Also, he’s played 2B, 3B and SS. I feel he may get unfairly pigeonholed into the “utility infielder” (i.e. jack of all trades, master of none) box, whilst Greene is a “pure” SS and therefore “the better fielder”. I can’t speak for any subjective analysis of the two but it looks like Barden’s fielding numbers, for what it’s worth, are superior.
Regardless, even if it’s a wash re: their defensive talent, Barden looks a better hitter (similar power in the high minors with a better BA, better OBP, better walk-rate, better K rate and better major league projections for 2009). Even if we do see some of this mythical “upside” to Greene, it seems unfair for him to leapfrog Barden when his hitting has been inferior.
If we’re going to pick the most likely AAAA hitter to succeed at the major league level, I guess it ought to be Hoffpauir. He has very limited power but has consistently got on base in the high minors (OBP well ahead of Barden and Greene) so, despite his apparently shaky glove, would be the best bet to be our no.9 “second leadoff” guy in a RH/LH platoon with Skip. That is, if you can stomach two poor fielding 2Bs in that platoon, and no significant cover at SS (or burn another bench position by having a 4th middle infielder).
Regardless, my feeling is that Greene is simply ahead of the pack because he’s a first rounder and has “pedigree”, even though the other two guys have out-hit him in the minors and I’m not sure his glove is anything special. I guess if he can keep hitting in ST you could argue he deserves a chance but, as we’ve heard before, spring training stats are essentially meaningless and not really predictive in any way. I’d rather we at LEAST had an open competition, and gave Barden, Ryan and Hoffpauir equal bats, and just went with whoever did best. But for me Greene should be fourth in that queue, given his minor league record so far.
Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.
by Felonius_Monk on Mar 10, 2009 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Think I'm possibly wrong about Greene's glove
for what it’s worth. So maybe he’s worth a look…
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by Felonius_Monk on Mar 10, 2009 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
i believe i read he moved to 3b for AZ because he was blocked at ss
either by another prospect or Stephen Drew.
I hope not Drew, because Barden would have been a better defender at short. AZ should have moved Drew to second this year and, with Barden gone, taken on izturis before he went to baltimore. they desperately need to improve their infield defense.
Drew is one of the stats vs. scouts defenders
Stats hate him, scouts love him. There might be something going on there with Reynolds too considering every time I’ve seen him he looks terrible but UZR has him just below average. I wonder if Drew’s up-the-middle rating is terrible…
Not afraid to nitpick
Heck
They should’ve just picked up Kennedy for free when we dumped him. Lopez, Reynolds, Drew infield with a bunch of groundballers on their staff = eugh.
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by Felonius_Monk on Mar 11, 2009 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought Greene's glove
was supposed to be very solid — which was part of the reason that he keeps getting a look despite horrible peripherals and a terrible OBP.
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Yes
I think I’m going to retract that – it looks like he’s a good fielder. I think I had my wires crossed.
Still not sure about his bat and, to me, Barden would still get the nod thanks to his better OBP and versatility as a backup, but I guess if Greene can play 2B he shouldn’t be completely discounted.
Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.
by Felonius_Monk on Mar 10, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
"because he's a first-round draft pick."
That thought is kind of scary. I mean, I’m sure it’s a complicated situation, but there does seem to be some wishful thinking involved. It reminds me of the phenomenon of playing a guy who is sucking because he is more expensive. Perhaps they want to make the most of Greene’s “potential” since he was a first rounder and is so “athletic”. I’m not saying that Greene isn’t athletic or that he doesn’t have potential, but that alone does not a major-league shortstop make.
Give him a chance
It might be rare for a guy to improve at this stage but why not if he’s been showing management better skillsets in the last year? I would love to have a guy with his speed on the team. (But yes, he would need to get on base to utilize that speed). I like the idea of him and Rasmus getting on base and running wild.
I think the premise of the current discussion
is the expectation that Greene will reduce the frequency at which he strikes out. If his major league numbers are the same as his minor league numbers, I think everyone agrees that they would not be good enough. Moz and LaRu apparently are expecting a great leap forward, which I guess means, at a minimum, fewer strike outs.
To return to the concept of upside, I think T.Greene has it, and much more of it than Ryan.
So says, Titus Pullo (formerly The Dude)
by Titus Pullo on Mar 10, 2009 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
I dunno
it seems to me that (looking at the numbers at least) Greene has made very few advances in the last couple of years. He’s still the whiff machine he always has been, and any better management of the strikezone is not really apparent.
Of course, I might be wrong, but I don’t really see any evidence of any upside, in Greene or Ryan, but at least we know Ryan has a good glove and can play three infield positions (apparently) pretty well defensively.
I don’t think Greene’s speed is much of an issue because he’ll likely not reach base 100 times in a season as our primary MIF backup.
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by Felonius_Monk on Mar 10, 2009 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Reportedly
T. Greene has a pretty decent glove. Any stats out there to the contrary?
total zone
from www.minorleaguesplits.com/ are the only defensive minor league stats i am aware of.
from player page, i click career stats page, then defense. will let you draw your own conclusions.
by ball in play on Mar 10, 2009 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Looks pretty good!
In the years in which his sample size is big enough – the numbers are good to great. Even in his recent time in Memphis (small sample), the numbers are really good. Sometimes these defensive numbers aren’t all that reliable but the numbers that are there are consistently good and the scouting reports I seem to have remembered seeing support that.
I still have hopes for Greene. He’s an athlete with power and speed. It’s still possible he can turn the corner on pitch recognition/plate discipline – at least enough to be a productive MIF.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Mar 10, 2009 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Tony's line up for today
Lou Brock, LF
Red Schoendienst, 2B
Stan Musial, RF
Mark McGwire, 1B
Jim Edmonds, CF
Ken Boyer, 3B
Ted Simmons, C
Ozzie Smith, SS
Jeff Murphy, DH
Pitching for the Cardinals today, La Russa wrote: Gibson.
I think we can win with this line up.
Not without Pujols
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by joker24 on Mar 10, 2009 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
why not?
He put Edmonds in. So we are assuming we are going with Ozzie in his prime and not the Ozzie who Tony pushed out. (and lets not open that can of worms again.)
Now… if ARey was pitching….
i got a good laugh seeing Hollywood's name on that list
good stuff
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that would have been a classic
if he had written Royce Clayton in at SS.
Or Skip Schumaker at second…
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SP
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by jd is legend on Mar 10, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Ozzie in his prime
I bet he would, instead of the Ozzie that should retire version
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 10, 2009 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
he didnt
he wrote in ozzie ;-)
Though I hear Iommi plays a mean 2b ;-)
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by jealousblues on Mar 10, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I would
DH McGwire and put Albert in the 3 hole at 1B. Put Stan in the 2 hole, because you know how tony likes putting good hitters there, and then put Red after Edmonds, which bumps Ozzie to the 9 hole and gives him a speedy guy in the 9 spot…probably a bad thing, but I don’t even know who Jeff Murphy is without looking it up…
yeah
you gotta have Pujols in there, unless he has some unwritten rule that it must be retired players
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 10, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
the mang
was due for a day off
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by jealousblues on Mar 10, 2009 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions
His wife was one of my good friend's roommates at Auburn
I’ve met him a couple of times, seems like a nice guy. It’s always cool to have someone you’ve met (before they were famous) in the big leagues.
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by jd is legend on Mar 10, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I believe Thomas is Boyer's grandson
Or at least, they’re related somehow…that’s how he got the name
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by jd is legend on Mar 10, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Is there any way to listen to games online w/o paying?
Does MLB have a lockdown on all of this, or is there a way to get around the system?
oh yeah
they got that on lockdown
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 10, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Slama-lama-Dunc-dong!
Good start for the Birds today – Skip 1B, Dunc HR, Pujols 2B
by BTown Birds fan on Mar 10, 2009 1:17 PM EDT reply actions
Dunc playing his way
back onto the opening day roster. Good luck to him.
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by Felonius_Monk on Mar 10, 2009 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I was just thinking that
I think he’s already on the team
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 10, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Well another big bat
off the bench can’t hurt. Not sure he should be starting everyday with Studwick, Ank, Ras, Schu, Barton, Mather etc etc in the building but as 4th OF with regular starts vs RHP, I like it….
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by Felonius_Monk on Mar 10, 2009 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
I definitely don’t want him starting, because I think that Lud, Ank, Barton are all better options
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 10, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
If he's hitting like he once did he should start
Barton is not a better option than Duncan’s peak.
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by jd is legend on Mar 10, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
small sample size
Barton plays defense WAY better than Dunc. he’s probably our best defensive outfielder imo
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 10, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions
but yeah
too hard to tell which one is better
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 10, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
How can you cite Duncan's small sample size
when Barton hasn’t been in the league for a full year yet?
Not trying to rag on Spaceman, just pointing out that what we saw out of Duncan for essentially a FULL YEAR (midway through 2006-midway through 2007) is better than what we can reasonably expect Barton to produce. Of course, that begs the question, can we reasonably expect Duncan to produce that much? I don’t know, but he’s blistering this spring training, for sure.
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by jd is legend on Mar 10, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
sorry
I meant that Barton has a small sample size
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 10, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Ah ok
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by jd is legend on Mar 10, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
if we go by spring training
then Ank, Barton, and Duncan would be our starting OF
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 10, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
?
better than Rasmus, Ankiel, Ludwick, & Schumaker? better than Duncan, yes…but what if Duncan plays almost every day and hits about 30-35 hrs…is his offense worth his defense then?
Barton is faster than everyone of those guys
the only one that compares by UZR/150 is Ludwick. Barton’s main defensive problem is his throwing arm… which sets him back a bit. if Duncan hits that many home runs and keeps up his good OBP, then yeah, he’s better I guess. unless he plays even worse defense in the outfield this year. I think that Barton should at least be platooned with Duncan, especially if Skip is not leading off. but then again, this is kind of old news.
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 10, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
He may have good range and
a good glove, but doesn’t he have a below average arm?
that's not as big a factor as people may think
at least, that’s my opinion. I think it’s more useful to have speed in the outfield to catch more balls than to have a sniper rifle arm… although, that is very cool to have.
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 10, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
good jumps and routes to the ball
are more important than raw speed. I haven’t watched him enough to grade that, but it seems like Ludwick gets great jumps and takes good angles. plus he has that wierd throw lefty-hit righty thing going on
Hard to be sure
with his limited MLB experience, but Barton had the second best LF arm on the Cardinals behind Skip. If the innings differential is factored in they are pretty similar. Duncan had the worst arm of the 10 different Cardinals who played LF enough to be rated. I would guess the neck thing affected Duncan’s throwing some as he had been better in previous years.
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 10, 2009 1:23 PM EDT reply actions
I don't think I've heard Shannon pronounce Khalil Greene's name properly yet
He always seems to say “Ka-Heel” instead of “Ka-Leel” (at least that’s what it sounds like to me). I wonder how long into the season he’ll still be doing that.
by BTown Birds fan on Mar 10, 2009 1:26 PM EDT reply actions
maybe he's just drunk and slurring
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 10, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, he's a gem.
I’d like to compile a list of his mis-pronunciations.
I was always partial to Greg mad-OX
man
Schu, Dunc, Pujols, Ank, and K. Greene are all having a nice spring.
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 10, 2009 1:47 PM EDT reply actions
Pujols on the cover of SI
“Albert Pujols has A Message: Don’t Be Afraid To Believe In Me”
defy, cards, defy. hey logic --- you suck.
that's awesome
It’s cool to hear it directly from Albert and for him to put it out there so forcefully.
That is cool -
but I’d like him to spell it out for me – “I have never taken steroids or other banned substances.” I still haven’t heard him say it.
it's awesome, i just pray it's true
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goold's twitter
is great. esp when he gets into it about strauss.
How appropriate
That the ghost of Chris Lambert comes out with shackles clanging on one of DanUp’s threads.
i don't have time to look it up right now
but is Lambert a middle relief guy now? he only stayed in for one inning….
While we're talking about Tigers with funny names (see the Clete thread earlier)
Who is Will Rhymes? Is he related to Busta?
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Second best 'Will' name,
behind this guy.
They both sound like characters in an updated Abbot and Costello sketch, along with, of course, Chin-lung Hu.
so we finally don't have to play the Tigers in interleague this year
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 10, 2009 2:29 PM EDT reply actions
no f'n way
why the hell can’t they do better scheduling
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 10, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Four years in a row
that the Cards and Tigers have played in Interleague. At least this year they are coming to Busch instead of us going to Comerica.
now i call shenanigans.
tony just does that so he can have dinner with leyland a couple times in the middle of the season.
by tom s. on Mar 10, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think you're on to something...
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 10, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
that has to be why
why can’t we play the Rangers or the Twins more? i’d think MLB would want the best mach ups & those would be really good.
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I just want variety
instead of seeing the same AL teams every year.
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 10, 2009 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions
ditto. hence my suggestions
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by jd is legend on Mar 10, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
twice from will rhymes
but not watching, just saw on gameday…but he looked great making the play in my imagination
I hope he makes it
well, not this year, but anyway
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 10, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
He'll hit
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by jd is legend on Mar 10, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Fu-Te Ni
That sounds like one of Chris Farley’s answers on that Japanese game show
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by jd is legend on Mar 10, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I do what I can to please the fans
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by jd is legend on Mar 10, 2009 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions
That's exactly what I thought he was trying to say!
Getting two tickets to an execution is like getting two tickets to NASCAR, except you KNOW Jeff Gordon's gonna die.
Fu-Te-Ni!
I hear jawas in my head when I see that.
Every time.
There are 10 types of people in the world. Those who understand binary, and those who don't.
we win
hopefully they will suck this season so we will have an easy sweep
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 10, 2009 3:44 PM EDT reply actions
and 2k's and a FB from motte end the game.
stellar pitching from motte, todd, miller, and lohse. a HR from C-Dunc. i hope we do this well in the regular season.
Motte has been very impressive imo
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 10, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I was just thinking that i'm leaning towards him for closer (if I had the choice)
He throws hard. He doesn’t walk people. He strikes people out.
things might change once the league sees him more, but I’ve seen enough closer BB’s in the last few years, at least Motte would make the other team earn it
Not sure what more Motte has to do to make people say "who cares about a 2nd pitch"
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by joker24 on Mar 10, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Todd Worrell didn't have a ton of different pitches, did he?
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 10, 2009 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Neither did Rob Dibble
Just throw the heat.
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low to mid 90s sinker and a hard slider
didn’t need much of an offspeed w/ that combination
"That annoys the you-know-what out of me." - Bud Selig
Grant Balfour
was awesome last year in 60-odd innings, just using his fastball, in the best offensive league in baseball.
Because chicks dig the intentional base on balls.
by Felonius_Monk on Mar 11, 2009 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
balfour will be interesting to watch this year
"i have a feeling the answers are bigger than the questions" -Dr Heyward Floyd
looks like he may be making ladunc give him a chance.
he got picked over kinney (unstable arm slot) and perez (wonky ankle) to close out the game.
Motte struck out two and retired the three batters he faced for his first save of spring, cinching a 5-2 victory at Roger Dean Stadium against Detroit. How he did it is as important as what he did. Motte flashed command of two pitches beyond his fastball, something pitching coach Dave Duncan said he’s done more and more and better and better this spring. Motte set up the strikeout to end the game with a changeup, and then blew a fastball by the Tiger righthanded hitter. Motte’s final four pitches were strikes, and his outing including a mix of changeups and sliders for strikes.
It wasn’t something seen from Motte.
"You mean last season?" Duncan said. "Last season, no. But we’ve seen it this spring."
I think motte’s stock bumped up several points.
That is quite something to like.
Two swinging strike-outs. Inge (a real hitter) was the only one that got good wood on a ball, and that was a fly-out.
Sign someone who can pitch, then let this team play.
by IL and StL Fan on Mar 10, 2009 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions
YP is gonna be pissed
BEN MOTHERHUSHYOURMOUTH SHEETS
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I regret not posting a free link to download Baseball Mogul
They had a coupon to download it for free last week
Stat Whore
Don't know if anyone has said this yet
but Adam Ottavino is starting for Italy against Venezuela today at 5ET on ESPN2
"All baseball fans can be divided into two groups: those who come to batting practice and the others. Only those in the first category have much chance of amounting to anything."--Thomas Boswell
I'm on spring break!
No papers or midterms to do for me!
"All baseball fans can be divided into two groups: those who come to batting practice and the others. Only those in the first category have much chance of amounting to anything."--Thomas Boswell
today is looking ugly, here too.
tomorrow: geography test, journalism paper and speech all due.
thursday: french composition, poli sci homework problems.
friday: a stiff drink and spring break :)
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
Definitely watching this one
Back and forth on 360 between this and watching my boys Liverpool run circles around Real Madrid. Come on Adam.
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
looking good so far
Didn’t see the whole first inning but seeing him strike out Miggy Cabrera and Magglio with some wicked movement and heat makes me think we undervalue him as a community (just a hunch, no need to provide sample size alerts). I went over to FR to check his community ranking and he didn’t even crack the Top 20.
he didn't strike out Cabrera
he walked him. and looked to be staying away from him. He also hung a curveball to Ordonez that would have been hit a mile on most days
I want to scream at him
Stop overthrowing. His fb is better at 90 than it is at 95 anyway.
Not afraid to nitpick
It sure seems like the FB at 92
moves and gets swings & misses better than the 95 version. When he’s throwing 95 he is up in the zone, which may lead to lots of HRs
the breaking ball looked good when it broke
but that hanger was sitting at 87 in the middle of the plate. He’s thrown at least one more in the 2nd inning.
is this on tv?
Dont take me seriously :-D
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by jealousblues on Mar 10, 2009 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions
nm, i found it
Dont take me seriously :-D
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by jealousblues on Mar 10, 2009 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions
awm crud
I missed Adam
but I do see a Izturis sighting ;-)
as well as seeing the nifty Italy Dodgers unis
Dont take me seriously :-D
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by jealousblues on Mar 10, 2009 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions
espn360.com
you can rewind it and watch ott.
"Statistics mean nothing to the individual"
"You are what you eat and you clearly went out and devoured a big fat guy"
Chris Duncan is swinging
either Thor’s hammer or Chuck Norris’s beard for a baseball bat right now.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
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Chuck Norris's beard
niiiiiiice
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Hopefully nothing.
The wrath of Chuck Norris is not something a man should arbitrarily incur.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
ha
that was amusing. Possibly very, very wrong, but amusing nonetheless
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Clemens and steroids
I’ve seen stories at SI.com and Yahoo Sports where pundits are suggesting that it’s becoming increasingly likely Clemens could do time for perjuring himself, as it’s become increasingly apparent that he did do steroids. Could you imagine if it played out that way? I’m not advocating that it should – I don’t think any players should have had to talk to Congress or any other Feds under oath about steroids in the first place – but we could potentially end up with arguably the greatest hitter and the greatest pitcher of their generation not just disgraced in the eyes of many/most fans because of steroid use, but actually doing time. Crazy. (Although as I understand it, it’s looking more and more likely Bonds that will get off.)
by BTown Birds fan on Mar 10, 2009 4:02 PM EDT reply actions
Hilarious
Walt Jocketty, back in the general manager’s saddle again with the Cincinnati Reds, has assembled some of his old guard from St. Louis.
He un-retired longtime assistant Jerry Walker, hired longtime Cardinals advance scout Mike Squires and also brought Cam Bonifay over. He also added former Seattle general manager Bill Bavasi.
Interesting subject skirted by Jock.
It’s obvious that he still resents some of the changes made by Luhnow. He obviously doesn’t put as much stock in statistical analysis as he does in live scouting. You can’t deny that Jock did a fine job, but I think the market niche that gave him success in STL no longer exists. Too much value is placed on home-grown prospects these days. Only time will tell if he’ll adapt in Cincinnati.
Ottavino
1st: A bit shaky in the beginning, hanging a fastball to Endy Chavez. But pitching to contact, decent breaking ball on Miggy Cabrera and then a damn good strike out against Magglio. Not a bad innning.
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
Man he hung one before getting that K though.
Would have clobbered it if he wasn’t rusty.
He’s got a nice arm though, if he just could work out the control issues.
yeah pretty much
it looked it surprised Mags, he was definitely looking away. I think Sutcliffe was dead-on, Otta was definitely overthrowing, getting ahead of himself. We’ll see how he does in the 2nd.
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
Sutcliffe seems relatively knowledgable about the game
from what little I’ve heard from him. He’s also got a really calm voice.
He definitely has the tools
95-mph fastball according to ESPN’s gun and that breaking ball looks nice. (That one he hung to Magglio was put on a tee, though)
Nice smooth second inning
and it should also be mentioned that every batter he has faced is a legit major leaguer. Venezuela is talented.
that was fantastic
that was a good 3rd inning. filthy stuff to blow past chavez and mora. as Sutcliffe said, just needs some more command.
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
oh, i cant stand this new pitcher
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by jealousblues on Mar 10, 2009 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions
tbh i dont know why im rooting for Italy
I suppose because of Ottavino, but I ususally like the Latin teams but Venezuela just isnt doing it for me.
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by jealousblues on Mar 10, 2009 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Anything to do with
Hugo?
There was Gibson in the Reds' dugout, visibly manhandling about three Reds and tossing them bodily out of the dugout and onto the field...He was the toughest athlete mentally I ever saw, and the greatest competitor. JACK BUCK
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Mar 10, 2009 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions
That's the first time I've ever seen the phrase "hanging a fastball"
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by jd is legend on Mar 10, 2009 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions
just started watching
that had to be Sutcliffe. It just had to be.
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Actually, I was referring to the OP
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by jd is legend on Mar 10, 2009 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions
now I feel like Sutcliffe
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They were talking about the Italian catcher
and how good his arm was. How he threw it back to the pitcher harder than it came to him. Well, why the hell is he still catching? Pull a Motte and stick him on the mound.
he looks like the replacement
for Jorge Posada. He’s got some good skills behind the plate.
That was a much better 2nd inning for Ottavino. He’s still overthrowing a bit, but he’s pitching to contact and avoiding the jams. Too many 3-2, 2-2 counts, though.
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
the Mora at-bat was interesting
He got ahead w/ a couple of decent breaking balls and then blew him away w/ 95 mph heat.
Next inning should be good to watch: Cabrera, Magglio, Guillen
if he can get out of that
that would be a fantastic start for ottavino, really could boost his confidence. he’s got some good tools there.
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
it'll be his last inning, most likely
b/c he is at 50 pitches now and the limit is 70 for this round
I wanted to see him against
Cabrera, Maggs, and Guillen.
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
Wow what an obnoxious motion..
But still not as annoying as that crap Ryan Dempster does with his glove.
A few annoyences in this game.
A) Announcer saying “This is Lopez saying I’m flat out better than you” after Lopez hits a HR off some reliever. That’s not really the attitude that should be encouraged in the WBC IMO.
B) Fan’s w/ whistles.
Venezuela looks pretty good, I’m pretty interested to see how they do when it’s all said and done.
Lopez has been awesome so far in the WBC
check out his numbers thru close to 3 games:
7-10, 6 runs, 5 doubles, 2 rbi, 1 hr, and 2 bb
6 of his 7 hits are for extra bases… wow
Not sure if anyone has noticed yet.
But so far The Netherlands vs Dominican Republic is a great game right now. 0-0 Top of the 5th. Loser goes home.
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0-0
heading to the bottom of the 7th.
DR has 5 hits, Netherlands 2 hits.
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Netherlands go down in order
even though Randall Simon laced one down the line to no avail.
0-0 heading to the top of the 8th.
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DR goes down in order.
0-0 heading to the bottom of the 8th.
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I thought it was gone.
but the DR have hit balls like that a couple of times. Ball isn’t carrying out there.
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headin' to the 9th.
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last time i checked he was on the roster.
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Yeah, I just checked gameday.
he’s on the bench right now.
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Thanks TB
great even on Gameday. Can’t believe Neuman got out of the game w/o giving up runs. He’s the one Puerto Rico beat up on. Go Orange!
"That annoys the you-know-what out of me." - Bud Selig
The Netherlands taking it to the bottom of the 9th tied 0-0
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Reyes boots a tough play
1 on, 1 out.
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Reyes
Jose Reyes is having a terrible game, 0-4. Not to say that I’m upset about this.
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
It's an exciting 0-4
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Free baseball!
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DR threatening.
with 2 outs. boyd hits Tejada and then Jose Guillen grounds past 3rd. 1st and 2nd. 2 outs. Cano up to bat.
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Cano flies out to right.
Nederlands take it to the bottom of the 10th still tied at 0.
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which espn is this on?
Just got home from work, and I’ve got lame college basketball on all of mine.
"i have a feeling the answers are bigger than the questions" -Dr Heyward Floyd
MLB Network
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Marte strike out Holman with a runner on 1st.
Heading to the 11th.
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Dutch batters
no walks, 14 strikeouts through 10
might be a bit overmatched
"That annoys the you-know-what out of me." - Bud Selig
every DR reliever throws gas
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Big error by Kingsale in right.
Reyes scores from first. DR up 1-0
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Totally should have made that catch.
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Should have made the play
Just short-armed it. The Dominicans are acting like they just won the World Series…there’s still a bottom half, fellas…
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by jd is legend on Mar 10, 2009 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Correction. No error
2 out triple by Bautista.
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He didn't get glove on it
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by jd is legend on Mar 10, 2009 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, he neve did get a glove on it
and I think since he dove (which he shouldn’t have) they gave him a hit.
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um, never mind
I have a habit of getting myself into trouble with colloquial phrases
"That annoys the you-know-what out of me." - Bud Selig
Farfagnugen?
or is that German?
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I have a feeling that doesn't translate to "aw, crap!"
but I think it gets the same feeling across.
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Well
“Het verdomme” loosely means “god dammit”.
There was Gibson in the Reds' dugout, visibly manhandling about three Reds and tossing them bodily out of the dugout and onto the field...He was the toughest athlete mentally I ever saw, and the greatest competitor. JACK BUCK
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Mar 10, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Anyone else tired of the
“YER OUUUUUUUUT!!!!!”?
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DeYoung (sp?)
hits a leadoff double off Marmol!!!!!!!
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Dominican shouldn't gave gotten a Cub for closing duties
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by jd is legend on Mar 10, 2009 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I kinda figured I had it wrong.
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Curt Smith is up!!!
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wow that was close.
tying run on 3rd. Great at bat Curt.
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His swing is way too long
He’s missed two hittable pitches
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by jd is legend on Mar 10, 2009 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn't mind some dongjackery
What’s Dutch for “jack a dong”?
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c'mon kid. shorten that swing.
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Tie game!!!
Suck it Marmol!
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He shortened his swing.
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A little bit
It was still a little bit long
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by jd is legend on Mar 10, 2009 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Tie game!!!
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Marmol is imploding
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I heard that too and laughed.
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Before his first full season of closing?
Eh? Glad I have it on mute and am listening to music
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by jd is legend on Mar 10, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Isn't there a "c" in that phrase that doesn't belong?
"That annoys the you-know-what out of me." - Bud Selig
sorry, that wasn't very nice
Cubs bring out the worst in me
"That annoys the you-know-what out of me." - Bud Selig
I laughed.
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don't be sorry, be funny
if it’s funny, it works for everyone.
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MARMOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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That wasn't even close.
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Squeeze play?
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Yikes.
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That was ugly.
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I like Simon up here.
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eh. IBB
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Marmol needs to uncork one of these IBB pitches
First row of the stands please
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NETHERLANDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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WINNER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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nfw
seriously?
God I love baseball.
"i have a feeling the answers are bigger than the questions" -Dr Heyward Floyd
Hard grounder down the 1st base line
and the 1st baseman knocked it into foul territory. Safe at 1st.
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Wow!
What a game!
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Great way to start the season
A demoralizing blown save for the Cubs’ new closer
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Congratulations, Woodwork!
What a great moment!
"That annoys the you-know-what out of me." - Bud Selig
Thanks thanks thanks
This is the biggest win in our baseball history; this beats beating cuba in the sydney olympics
and that's saying something!
Now I can be happy. My boys from Taiwan got kicked around pretty badly.
"That annoys the you-know-what out of me." - Bud Selig
Shouldn't have slid into first :P
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And I hope we see Marmol blow many, many, MANY more this year
What a great game.
by cloistermaximus on Mar 10, 2009 10:19 PM EDT reply actions
Should be a good game too.
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Cuba should beat up on them pretty good
Ah what the hell, Go Roos!
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by jd is legend on Mar 10, 2009 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Just like the Dominican should have beat up on the Dutch?
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Exactly
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by jd is legend on Mar 11, 2009 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm enjoying the WBC for real
I wish more nations would take part in it. If Mike Piazza and Adam Ottavino can play for Italy, then surely I can sign up for Ireland ;) Or at least get Mark McGwire out there for the hell of it
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If Piazza and Ottavino can play for Italy
then Kinsler, Kapler, Braun, Marquis, Schoeneweis and Youkilis should be able to play for Israel!
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by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Mar 10, 2009 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
"Do you have anything light?"
“I have this pamphlet on Jewish sports heroes.”
Couldn’t resist.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
I have the arm of Aaron Miles
and the liver of Shane MacGowan, so i guess I could pitch for Ireland.
hecanthithecanthithecanthithecanthit
Wow. A Pogues reference.
Nicely played, sirrah.
Mirror, mirror, on the wall, who's the ace-est of them all?
by the red baron on Mar 11, 2009 2:41 AM EDT up reply actions
This is like the Domincan Republic beating the Netherlands at socer.
Twice.
In a few days.
by notmorganfreeman on Mar 10, 2009 10:35 PM EDT reply actions
van persie and sneijder would never let that happen
i love the dutch national team
by VolsnCards5 on Mar 10, 2009 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Dutch-loving
sounds utterly, unspeakably filthy.
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by the red baron on Mar 11, 2009 2:42 AM EDT up reply actions
The Dominicans got a Dutch oven
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by jd is legend on Mar 11, 2009 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
After the "Dutch-loving" comment
I was waiting for the Dutch oven reference
and jd delivered…
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Look at those Cuban uniforms!
And did you see that play?!
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meandering topic
has anyone noticed how many full court/really long shots are being made in the NBA and college lately? freaky
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 10, 2009 11:29 PM EDT reply actions
meant half court
but just saw one from full court on the news, it’s like the 5th one lately
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 10, 2009 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
This is real interesting.
4-2 Aussies, Top 7.
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I'm gettin the feeling
I’m the only one sticking with this one.
4-3 Australia. Bottom 7. Australia with a man on 1st and 1 out.
Great day of baseball and I can’t shut it down.
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Heading to the Top of the 8th.
Aussies still up 4-3.
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Wow.
Peraza with a pinch hit 2 run home run.
Cuba now leads 5-4.
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Alright.
Heading to the bottom half of the 8th.
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yeah. not looking good for the Australians
Last chance here.
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Well, it was a good game.
I figured it would be.
Really thought Australia had ’em beat but that homerun by Peraza changed the entire complexion of the game.
Night all.
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Not time for April yet
I’ve still gotta get through March Madness with my Tarheels the #1 team in the nation and the NBA Playoffs with my Cavs the #1 record in the NBA.
If the Tarheels win the National Title, the Cavs win the NBA title and the Cardinals improbably win the World Series…I may quit sports.
by Hardcore Legend on Mar 11, 2009 2:55 AM EDT reply actions
I'd have thrown the Redskins in there for the Super Bowl
but I think we all know that ain’t happening.
by Hardcore Legend on Mar 11, 2009 2:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Not gonna happen
:( as much as I would like to see that too. And my College BBall team sucked it up this year.
"People call me El Hombre," Pujols said. "But only Stan is the Man."
I see Josh Phelps got sent to Minor League camp
i was really hoping he would stick in SF and got the at-bats he earned last year…at least he has a lot better shot of coming up for the Giants than the Cardinals.
"Baseball is dull only to dull minds." - Red Barber
I still think he's wasting his time
playing for National League teams.
Getting two tickets to an execution is like getting two tickets to NASCAR, except you KNOW Jeff Gordon's gonna die.
Look at these comments by Luhnow
Q: (from Twitter) Has the increased intelligence of the fan base re: prospects (because of FR, mainly) made his job harder?
LUHNOW: First of all, I am very saddened to see Future Redbirds cease to exist. I checked that site every day and it was one of my RSS feeds that I used extensively. I wish there were a way Erik and others would keep it going, but I get the realities of balancing a hobby and a "real life". To answer your question, the intelligence of the fan base (and there is no other team that has fans as well informed and on the ball as ours) is a tremendous help to us! We read the blogs and message boards (oh and the paper too!) and it often sparks conversation that leads to more conversation that sometimes leads to us doing something differently than we might have without the fans input. So keep it up, everyone! We are listening.
Stat Whore
I don't know
Again, I may have to call shenanigans. If he really followed FR and the ‘base’ then Amaury Marti would be starting in LF today batting 4th…. and maybe 5th and 6th as well… and possibly pitching a few innings.
Can't FR live on HERE
at this site? Can’t it be a subsection with all the usuals doing their daily reports and interviews?
Even have the FR addy point to said subsection.
by Hardcore Legend on Mar 11, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I like this idea
Or make it a separate blog under the SBNation umbrella for only Cardinal minor league talk. Other sites could then do the same thing for targeted talk on just minor league prospects and the draft.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
fantastic quote
i find myself getting a little further on the luhnow bandwagon everyday.
"Sorry about him, he's dealing with being an inker. " - Chasing Amy
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