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I blame them for turning a blind eye to the steroid use in the first place.

The list thing…I agree with you. I couldn’t understand how they were saying the union was at fault for making sure the list didn’t get out, when there wasn’t supposed to be a list kept, thus the “bit of a reach part”. Just another reason why I am sitting here asking myself why I let the radio stop on ESPN radio in the first place.

could have come from A Rod’s jilted. The players get word they’re on the list, first they discuss it amongst themselves, and then take it home to the spouse…

AROD: Angel Muffin, i found out my name is on this list that says I have tested positive for whatever that stuff is in the medicine cabinet that makes all the pretty girls want to take a picture with me and not Derek.

NOT MADONNA: Why don’t you just tell the truth for once in your life. A true Yankee shortstop would not hide and continually surround himself with scandal.

AROD: But I moved to third base this year Sugar Dumpling.

NOT MADONNA: I know.

AROD: Well, I can’t say anything now. I talked with

story says she "has some other names too"

{he says nonchalantly} and we agreed it would be best not to say anything at this time. I am just worried, what if someone does leak my name?

NOT MADONNA: Don’t you ever listen to me? COME CLEAN NOW! Admit you are wrong before anyone knows you did anything wrong. Most decent people tend to forgive people who openly accuse themselves.

AROD: Of course I listen Schmoopie. Your right, I shouldn’t let someone take my picture after having had lunch with that woman from the tan sallon. And then later with that woman I just had drinks with. It was foolish. Thank you for forgiving me. Now that everything is out in the open, maybe you should stop accusing yourself.

he worked for among other papers, the Washing Post & BMore Sun. he covered both MLB & some Minor league ball. along with the NFL,NBA, NHL & college sports. if he says he knows without a doubt both B’s used PED’s, i believe him. and i wouldn’t spread gossip just to look cool or bring another player down from a rival team. my friend also told me some Cardinal players other than Big Mac used PED’s. my friend was there, he had first hand knowledge, he has seen & heard things most of us will never see or hear. and probably never want to. i know i sometimes blow things up, but this is one time i’m speaking the truth. it’s a serious subject & i wouldn’t just throw wild accusations around.

the term “dirty” has been used for a long time. i agree with you though that if the players were, so were their bosses. i don’t know if it’s bad or not. i never really thought about it to be honest with you.

and totally thought he was talking about Biggio’s helmet.

And I agree with you chuck, I doubt Biggio’s did steroids but really no one gets a free pass anymore. But, I definitely wouldn’t go pointing fingers at Biggio.

they both end up dirty in the end, pudge especially.

no way he gets in. Everyone else in the book has popped on a test.

If you’re sick and can’t work, you take medicine to get better so you can get back to work. That is what cortisone is for. If a guy can “barely walk” and he takes a cortisone shot and is able to play, I see nothing wrong with that. Jimmy and Walker both took the shots when they were playing for us. Were you against them being on the field after they got those injections because they were “cheating”?

i still have all my hair. for now.

please God don’t let me lose my hair. i can lose my mind and some weight, but please don’t let me lose my hair.

every day since they were about 5. Hair loss in baseball can absolutely not be considered a determining factor. In fact, it shouldn’t be considered at all.

have done it, and I’m sure a ton of them have done it over the history of the game. on my little league team alone, half the team…. non-baseball, josh phelps, etc etc etc. what I’m trying to say is, tons of people like to do it. and it’s not really a problem (unless you’re drinking and driving at the same time talking on a cell phone).

"I don’t care about looking ripped. I still have some fat on me, but you need extra weight on your body when you play sports, because that’s where your power comes from. When I gain weight during the season, I just feel like I have a little more power. "

Quoted in Men’s Health, April 2005

because of A-Rod supposedly testing positive. I said if Albert were to ever test positive for something I would. He is w/o a doubt the greatest player I have ever seen (during my lifetime). And he probably will be the greatest player for the rest of my life. I like to think that his talent and abilities are natural. But if I were to ever learn that the greatest player of this era, whom I admire more than any other player, tainted himself, a part of me would for lack of a better term “die inside”. I would have a hard time trusting any of the top players in the game from then on. Even if MLB had tougher restrictions from here on out, guys still try to find ways around it.

Ok, maybe.

But,

What is an enhancement? Above normal? What is normal.

If Barry Bonds doesn’t allegedly use steroids does he break the all-time HR record?

If McGwire doesn’t allegedly juice does he have a surge late in his career where he hits 50+ HR’s for 5 straight seasons?

If Clemens doesn’t allegedly let MacNamee stick needles in his ass does he go on to put up his surefire HOF numbers?

All of these have to be anwered with: possibly, because we will never know for sure. It is safe to say that all of these guys were pure enough talents that they would have had solid careers without steroids. But, they wanted to be the best the game has seen. They couldn’t do it with their natural abilities alone (or at least they believed they couldn’t) so they improved their games by artificial means. They’ve tainted their careers forever, so we will never be able to tell to what extent their “enhancement” was or how far “above normal” it was. And the fact that they have tainted themselves is what makes it wrong. If steroids didn’t bring them “above normal” then why the hell would they use the damn things anyway?

Baseball doesn’t know the effects of steroids on players yet it is banned. According to MLB, if you had prescription pre-2004 for steroids, they were legal.

Baseball knows of the adverse effects steroids have on the body and that is at least one reason why they are banned. And if players pre-2004 could simply get a prescription for steroids from their doctors (or even possibly their team doctors) why didn’t every single player in the game do it? Many didn’t because they knew it was wrong. They probably knew that others who they were competing against were using them and moving ahead of the curve, but they still didn’t use steroids because they knew it wasn’t right.

I’m sorry if I’m coming across as aggressive in any of my comments, but this is just a subject that gets to me. I just want to defend my stance on the issue.

will make you more famous. It’s hard to argue though if Pujols played for the Yankees who would be more of a presence. A-Rod would be more of a media draw no doubt. But, I think fans would flock to Albert in masses and place him on his pedastal before they’d consider doing the same for A-Rod. I just base that on the way the Mang approaches and plays the game. Fans love it.