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Strength in numbers

It seems apparent that the decision to unceremoniously drop Adam Kennedy was fueled for emotional reasons, to some extent.  I do not believe Mo pulls the trigger on this move without support based in reason and logic, though.  TLR strikes me as a bit impulsive.  Mo strikes me as anything but.  I believe a large reason that Mo signed off on this move is the sheer numbers he can throw at the second base position.  I am going to try to justify the release of Adam Kennedy in a little more detail than I would feel comfortable writing in any existing post.  Just as a note, I am not looking at Schumaker in this.  That grand experiment is something I'll need to see to believe, but I hope it works out wonderfully.

At the outset, I will concede that the Cards are probably giving something up defensively, though I think Barden and Ryan are options in the competition that are capable of playing plus defense.  I do think expecting Kennedy to replicate last seasons results is asking a lot, but he is generally quite capable with the glove.  Probably the best defensive option.

Offensively, I expect the Cards are going to find something better.  How much better is the question.  Will it be by a wide enough margin to offset any slippage in defense? 

Just going off ZIPS, Kennedy projects at .647 OPS.  That seems about right to me.  The new cast of characters have these ZIP projections - Ryan .642, Barden .666, Hoffpauir .689, Greene .636.  I am not sure about Thurston but I suspect it would be somewhere around Hoffpauir's number.

Now I know the difference offensively here isn't real big.  I also know ZIPS has some flaws, particularly in accurately pegging younger talents.  But then that is kinda the point here, to me at least.  Kennedy has an established history and his variance offensively is negligible, particularly on the up side.  There are 5 internal options that project to be close or better offensively, and the amount of variance they each have is going to be great enough that it makes sense to take advantage of the numbers.  

So to take this a step further....


We can all agree that none of these ZIPS look very good.  Not everybody is going to hit exactly at their projection.  Some will overperform and some will underperform.  I believe the variance to these 5 would be greater than Kennedy's.   The numbers on the downside will likely be much lower as well - these guys are more likely to completely flame out too.  But the downside risk is managed by having numbers. 

What are the chances that at least one of these guys will hit their top 40%, 30%, 20%, 10% percentile projections?  Odds are pretty damn good.

Chances 1 of the 5 hits the 40% threshold -  92.8%
Chances 1 of the 5 hits the 30% threshold - 83.2%
Chances 1 of the 5 hits the 20% threshold - 67.3%
Chances 1 of the 5 hits the 10% threshold - 41%

I think the chances are pretty good that we can find an offensive upgrade that is significant enough to offset defensive slippage, plus some.  As an additional bonus, we have an opportunity to audition 5 people that could fit into plans at a very cheap cost for 2010 and beyond.   To me the only downside is the pain you have to go through as you sift through these options.  How long will it take?  How many misleading hot streaks will end up causing you to stick with a bad option too long?  I think this decision will cause a lot of heartburn in April, May, and maybe even June.  But I also think this team will be a better team in September without Kennedy.  If you are a dreamer, maybe even October.  I can get behind this move by Mo, whether urged by TLR or not, pretty easily. 

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In the FA pool there are now 5 infielders who could start at 2B for any big league club...

Hudson
Cabrera
Durham
Grudz

And now Kennedy

With ST starting in 3 weeks assuredly a few of these guys will remain unsigned.

Also, now that Dunn and Abreu are (sigh) finally signed, teams like Atlanta and San Fran might now be looking to acquire a good outfielder via trade, unless they want to settle for a lesser bat like Anderson or Edmonds.

by Czechguardsman on Feb 11, 2009 11:33 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

This is the 2nd time I've seen mention of Cabrera

as a 2B. He’s not, you know. He’s a ss. Could he play 2B? Probably. But he has exactly 33 games of major league experience at SS and hasn’t played 2B in the big leagues since 2000, when he played 1 game - 3 innings — at second. He’s undoubtedly looking for a job playing SS. He may end up having to settle for a 2B job, though I doubt it, but I think it’s a little misleading to call him a 2B.

by chuckb on Feb 12, 2009 8:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

he said he's willing to play 2B

in an article a month or so ago. So at least there’s that.

"If I'm right, it was a brilliant move, if I'm wrong, it was a crazy idea". -Mo

by SleepyCA on Feb 12, 2009 9:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think that Cabrera is sort of flying under the radar. The only downside to signing him is the loss of a 1st round pick.

It seems like every team is set at SS, unless the Tigers want an upgrade over Everett or the Mariners over Betancourt.

Cabera had 186 hits, 93 runs, and 19 steals last season, He’s put up those numbers almost exactly for the last 3 years. The thing I like about Cabrera is that he has played on postseason teams 4 of the last 5 years(he missed with the 2006 Red Sox.) Of course, Jason Marquis has been on a playoff team for the last 9 years. Still, Orlando seems like the perfect well-rounded MIF to insert at 2nd, despite the assumption amongst many that he is in a decline stage. I would prefer him to any of the other 4 aforementioned options.

by Czechguardsman on Feb 12, 2009 10:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Good post

This has been exactly what I have been thinking about the second base scenario. There is a good chance that one of these players will be better than Kennedy, and all of them have the ability to be better.

One thing that I would like to add about defense. Using Sean Smith’s Total Zone Rating, which works like UZR, you can get a semi-accurate picture of the defense of the minor league players. Minor League Splits has all of the TTR ratings for minor leaguers.

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by vivaelpujols on Feb 11, 2009 11:43 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I guess you have to figure out

how much TLR’s drama effects the team… he is a very good and successful manager, but how much does he really hurt the team by demanding people like AK, Rolen, etc to be off the team? I don’t really see him costing the team that much, and he’s above a league average manager… so I think we still have a good situation.

the move is more about concern for Adam Kennedy as a person getting jerked around a little bit more than anything… he didn’t get exactly what he wanted, but he got off the team (and is still being paid). while Kennedy would probably have been as good as any of the other options (or a little better), I think we can live with a situation that will determine (quite possibly) who, if anyone, should be playing 2B next season. I just hope they use what they learned about the OF last season (which they probably won’t as much as they should)

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 12, 2009 1:13 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

The thing is....

I really don’t think any of those options will be better offensively.

It’s not that the projection systems work badly for younger talents, but they work horribly for AAAA guys. Which is mostly the cast competing for the job. Look at the projection many of them have for Rico Washington this year. Just, well, crazy.

And in Ryan’s case, it’s influenced too much by his Bo Hart-ish hot streak his first year in the majors. Last year seems to be a more accurate assessment of his talents.

Felipe Lopez - next year's Joel Pineiro (on another team, thank you Mo!)

by DiscoJer on Feb 12, 2009 5:47 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Ryan was hurt all last year.

according to goold.

"If I'm right, it was a brilliant move, if I'm wrong, it was a crazy idea". -Mo

by SleepyCA on Feb 12, 2009 9:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

cabrera

It sounds like 4 mil could net Cabrera. I wish the Cards would do that.

by abothecardinal on Feb 12, 2009 6:31 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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