Closers as synonym for Relievers
by DanUpBaby on Dec 21, 2009 6:00 AM EST
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PrintThe Matt Holliday Question—I like thinking of it that way, as though its ramifications for Singapore are about to be discussed in an unsigned piece in The Economist—has kept us from freaking out about the bullpen. In some ways this is a good thing; there's nothing less satisfying that worrying about The Bullpen Question, which is never answered to our satisfaction on a year-to-year basis. But with Holliday in Flux, we've got no choice. As a prompt, this headline from Ken Rosenthal: "Too many closers, not enough jobs":
For some closers, the free-agent game of musical chairs is not likely to end well...
Two more closers -- Pirates righty Matt Capps and Nationals righty Mike MacDougal -- became free agents when their respective teams declined to offer them salary arbitration.
The availability of the Padres' Heath Bell in trade only adds to the squeeze. Bell is more affordable than some of the closers on the open market...
Four teams already have found closers. The Braves signed left-hander Billy Wagner. The Orioles signed left-hander Mike Gonzalez. The Rays traded for righty Rafael Soriano and the Astros signed righty Brandon Lyon...
This article is why the term "closer" is worthless. I'm done trying to convince people any other way—no more decrying the overrated concept of "closing experience", of "the closer's mentality", of anything else that can be measured statistically. Mike MacDougal, Heath Bell, Billy Wagner, and Mike Gonzalez are all described here, by a well-regarded baseball reporter, as closers. If that is the case—then this term is completely without meaning.
Does labeling this set of relievers "closer" tell you anything more about them than labeling them relievers would? Just one thing: they have all pitched in the ninth inning for at least one season. This information is completely worthless.
That aside—this is not an extremely promising crop of relief pitchers. Jose Valverde is the best free agent, but as a Type A free agent who was offered arbitration he'd cost the Cardinals a draft pick. The Cardinals haven't been linked to Matt Capps's list of finalists, and that he's in such demand following a really ugly season—Jason Motte with fewer strikeouts and walks?—is condemnation enough of the remaining prospects. (Though, seriously, where are they on Kiko Calero? Where is everybody on Kiko Calero?)
For these prospects are, in grand La Russa/Duncan fashion, interesting-but. My favorite, and probably Duncan's favorite, is Mike MacDougal, but my interest is purely as a spectator; his fastball is awesome, his nickname is awesome, and he gets a ton of groundballs and doesn't give up any home runs, which would be awesome if he were still striking batters out. (Bizarre, possibly related Fangraphs fact: he almost totally stopped throwing his once-vaunted slider last year, going with the fastball more often than Jason Motte.) MacDougal's not likely to be a good reliever, and my taste in bad relievers aside he's of interest mostly as a Dave Duncan lottery ticket. But he's also a closer, so there's that.
What this means for the Cardinals is that barring a trade their improved bullpen will have to come from within. Is anybody here willing to nominate someone other than Motte as the bullpen savior in 2010? Relievers are so difficult to predict that I've almost stopped doing it; it's the last baseball territory in which my emotions are basically sovereign over my common sense, and it would definitely be my weakness if I were a GM. Francisco Samuel? Certainly this is the year he puts it all together, perhaps under the steady tutelage of a veteran closer like Mike MacDougal. Casey Mulligan? He's apparently got no stuff whatsoever, but he's dominated four levels in two years, so why not? Gary Daley? Well, he got to AAA, and he didn't walk 25 batters per nine innings this year.
I thought about ending this entry with a poll, but there are just too many choices, even though in the end my tastes run, conventionally, toward Mitchell Boggs, whose fastball looked nearly as good as Mike MacDougal's in the bullpen, and Eduardo Sanchez, the only blue-chip reliever left in the high minors. It's just that in the bullpen it's harder than any other corner of the roster to discount the possibility that someone who I was not counting on at all in March is carrying the team in July.
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that's why I say hey man, nice post
what a good post man
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
by STLRegalia on Dec 21, 2009 2:48 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Such a good band before they sold out...
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
I don't know enough about them
to comment on their story, but I always laugh when people get mad at bands for selling out…isn’t that why they started a band? I think some people just get mad because they lose the stigmatism of following a cool, under the radar band, that nobody uncool knows about.
(not an accusation, just a general statement)
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by STLRegalia on Dec 21, 2009 5:03 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
No I just find it very frustrating
that they went from the song in question to Take a Picture. Either a lot of range or a lot of selling out… don’t know which.
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
Title of Record was one of the best albums out in 99.
Before Patrick wrote Short Bus he was a tour Guitarist with NIN. Short Bus was a pretty big departure from his previous work and sounded just as similar to albums of 95 as Title of Record sounded to albums of 98.
Take a picture was actually based on a real experience of Richard Patrick..
I've heard that story.
It just sounded like they wrote the song to tap the soft rock market.
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
I understand that.
Just frustrating knowing what we had and lost… I’m angry from a fan’s point of view. Not at them personally.
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
I think that the "closer" title could be very useful for projections
Projections base themselves off of some mean for a player, which is generally defined by position/body type. A “closer” is just a person who managers and coaches deemed good enough to be the best reliever on the team based on stats AND scouting. The scouting part is a key indicator for how well that reliever will do going forward.
Other than that, I agree completely with this post. Any putz could be a closer.
by vivaelpujols on Dec 21, 2009 7:21 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Any putz could be a closer.
It’s clever because it is a pun.
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I too liked it
because it is clever because it is a pun.
I thought it was very PUNny.
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by Felonius_Monk on Dec 21, 2009 9:01 AM EST up reply actions
DeJesus wept.
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by Felonius_Monk on Dec 21, 2009 4:00 PM EST up reply actions
That's terrible.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 21, 2009 5:13 PM EST up reply actions
and truth shall set you free.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 21, 2009 7:44 PM EST up reply actions
ze
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
It is.
And our stubborn refusal to pursue a trade with the Royals means that I am unlikely to have any chance to use it next year.
Poo pants.
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by Felonius_Monk on Dec 22, 2009 9:02 AM EST up reply actions
Agreed
But this guy called Brandon Lyon a “closer” dude. That just ain’t right…
Please consider any Hot Stove talk in the above comment is spoken under the assumption that the Cardinals are not signing Matt Holliday.
Well if he gives up winning runs while on the road,
he would technically be the closer.
You're the fail to my win?
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 21, 2009 10:41 AM EST up reply actions
This is what too little sleep does for you.
If he gives up winning runs, he would technically be the closer.
You're the fail to my win?
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 21, 2009 10:43 AM EST up reply actions
If they are giving up on Boggs as a possible 5th starter
then he should be in line to be the next closer/relief ace. His stuff is too good to not pitch in high leverage situations and with Lynn and Garcia on the horizon (and hopefully Miller not too long afterwards…) he is someone they can afford to mold into that role.
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only if he can find the strike zone
I agree he has promise but this slightly worrying VEB meme that Mitchell Boggs can just rock up on opening day next year and be a lights-out reliever is a bit presumptuous. The guy hasn’t yet demonstrated he can be an effective pitcher in the major leagues with his poor command, let alone to suddenly transmogrify into Joe Nathan.
An extra 2-3 ticks on an already good fastball gives him more margin for error, but he throws far too many balls at present to be thought of as a reliable option just yet, IMO.
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by Felonius_Monk on Dec 21, 2009 9:03 AM EST up reply actions
Interesting that you bring up Joe Nathan....
because he and Boggs have very, very similar MLB profiles.
Here’s Nathan’s first two seasons, mostly as a starter.
Here’s Boggs’ first two seasons, mostly as a starter.
Similar walk rates, similar K-rates. Nathan had more innings, but they both had the same amount of starts, meaning Nathan threw a bit more in relief.
Boggs was much more impressive in the minors than Nathan was, mostly due to the fact that Nathan started his career as a SS who never amounted to much of anything, and then started pitching in 1997, but never really accumulated a lot of innings until the year 2000, for whatever reason. Boggs is a much better prospect than Nathan ever was (and beat Nathan to the big leagues by about 4 years), but Nathan moved to the bullpen and harnessed his control by sticking to his best two pitches. If Boggs can do the same we could have a similar shut down reliever on our hands.
Please consider any Hot Stove talk in the above comment is spoken under the assumption that the Cardinals are not signing Matt Holliday.
I brought up Joe Nathan kinds precisely that reason, actually
and to illustrate that it’s pretty rare for a guy who profiles as a so-so pitcher for whatever reason early in his career rarely randomly turns into a star (I think it was after San Francisco traded him away, wasn’t it?). For every Joe Nathan there’s hundreds (quite literally) of guys who come to the majors with decent stuff and poor control, hang around for a year or two then kinda disappear.
What concerns me is that everyone saw Boggs could throw 97 out of the pen, saw a few (admittedly very impressive) innings from him in September, and all of a sudden he’s a solution to our bullpen issue. He isn’t. He’s a guy who may, just about, prove to be a viable swingman (i.e. a bit better than Hawk/PK), with the ability to be an average reliever or below average SP, who has a little bit of upside (based on stuff and about 10 innings out of the pen in 2009) to be an above-average reliever.
Yes, there’s upside, and I quite like him, personally (I think I’ve always been a bit higher on him as a prospect than most, mainly due to his velocity), but I sometimes wonder if years of watching mediocrity from the pen gives us rose-tinted spectacles when we finally chance upon someone who can actually miss a bat once in a while. Boggs has potentially crippling control issues and he is not a major league option in any sort of significantly leveraged role until he addresses them. Right now, Mike MacDougall is a much more likely eventual end product for Boggs’ career than Nathan is.
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by Felonius_Monk on Dec 21, 2009 10:18 AM EST up reply actions
Maybe
Nathan’s control problems really declined when he went from a two seam fastball to a four seam fastball, which was after he came to the Twins and was installed in the bullpen. He’s essentially a two pitch guy now (fastball/slider), where he was a four pitch guy as a starter with two pitches that were horrible. I don’t think that he could throw the four seamer as a starter because he’d get lit up after a few innings, but it works well as a closer because he can pump it up to 94-95 (touching 97 at times) and then offset it with a very good slider at around 87-88 mph.
Look at the vertical difference (on the “side” graph) between the fastball and slider — nearly 2 feet at home plate. The whiff rate on it was 23% in 2009, yet he was still able to throw it for a strike when he needed to.
Here’s Boggs for the last two seasons, which is about all the data you’re going to find on him for Pitch F/X. He’s essentially a fastball/slider guy as well, although he throws more curveballs than Nathan does, and he probably should, considering that it’s a pretty good pitch for him even though it isn’t nearly as good as either Carpenter’s or Wainwrights deuce. What I really wanted to point out here is that he’s throwing different types of fastballs, instead of just one. Since Pitch F/X doesn’t do a great job of deciphering 2 seamers from four seamers, my guess is that he’s throwing a 2 seamer a lot more to get movement on the fastball, otherwise a better percentage of his fastballs would be denoted as “FF”, or four seam fastballs. This makes me think that if he switched to the four seamer full time he would have better control. This would be a bad idea as a starter, but I think he could make it work as a reliever where he’s not throwing multiple innings and instead just coming in to throw gas for 3-4 outs a game.
Please consider any Hot Stove talk in the above comment is spoken under the assumption that the Cardinals are not signing Matt Holliday.
by fourstick on Dec 21, 2009 10:36 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
interesting
nice analysis. I think I agree. I just think banking on it, as some folks seem to be, until he’s showed that he can make it work, is folly. Rec’d all the same!
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by Felonius_Monk on Dec 21, 2009 12:29 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed about banking on it
Although, it seems silly to go out and sign a Mike Macdougal for actual money, when Boggs is seemingly (who probably doesn’t throw as hard) a similar pitcher and is essentially free.
Please consider any Hot Stove talk in the above comment is spoken under the assumption that the Cardinals are not signing Matt Holliday.
i dont think anyone is banking on it
at least i know i am not, but like you said there is no sense in signing someone unless we know Boggs cant do it for free.
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you are.
dirty stinking liar.
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by Felonius_Monk on Dec 21, 2009 4:00 PM EST up reply actions
Oh
and that texas leaguers pitch f/x site kicks some serious ass. I’ve think I’ve been there for at least half of my weekend looking at pitchers and hitters, both Cardinals and non-Cardinals that we’re looking at acquiring or should be looking at acquiring. It’s an enormous time suck, but what an amazing wealth of information there.
FWIW — Looking at Calero’s data from last year, I think we can decipher why he isn’t getting a lot of play as a closer, and why we should probably be a little wary before signing him to a contract longer than a year, or signing him at all.
- He threw more sliders than anything else, and his fastball velocity averages around 88 mph.
- The whiff rate on the fastball is pretty awful: 7%.
- His slider has more horizontal slide than vertical movement, so lefties are probably going to hit him pretty well. if you look at his splits from last year (SSS alert!), they didn’t hit crush him, but he only struck out a little more than 1 per BB, versus over 4 per BB against righties.
His slider is really, really good, but he’s essentially Rod Beck: Slider, Slider, Slider, Sneaky fastball. I think he’s going to have a tough time keeping his K-Rate above 10 with a whiff rate of only 7% on his fastball. Eventually, hitters will start to put it in play since it’s not overpowering, and my guess is that he’s going to be susceptible to good left handed hitters who can sit on a bad slider and crush it. If we get him, he really should be a ROOGY, kinda like Springer.
Please consider any Hot Stove talk in the above comment is spoken under the assumption that the Cardinals are not signing Matt Holliday.
Calero
career OBP of .352 against LHB, so there may be something in that. However, there aren’t too many relievers who have awesome platoon splits on both sides (even some closers struggle from what I recall) and he doesn’t give up a lot of extra-base hits (his main issue, as always, seems to be BB).
However, he’s not been used as a ROOGY in the past (he has half as many ABs against lefties as he does righties, which about represents the average numbers for a righty reliever, he’s not been protected).
Franklin’s career OBP vs LHB is .336, so it’s not as if he’s much better in that regard (and he gives up more contact – significantly higher SLG% so I assume their wOBA-against is about the same).
Regarding fastball velocity, you might be right, but he’s always had a <90mph one and has also always struck out a lot of guys. I guess the fact he’s murder on righties helps. Career 9.63 K/9 is pretty good, and he bettered that last year.
I’d actually quite like the idea of a bullpen full of guys who are tough on righties (Motte I think could end up a ROOGY, and I’d love to get Kiko and Springer too) plus our two good LOOGYs. With TLR’s devotion to playing the splits, that could be a really great way to create a Frankenstein’s platoon monster of bullpen aces, for use in high-leverage innings, even if we don’t have a full-time closer. I guess you could even add another solid lefty (we’ll see how, ermmm, is it Myers? The AAA guy we got in rule 5 who probably profiles as a LOOGY does in ST), and go with 3 from the left, 4 from the right (incl. Franklin) and not have a closer at all – just play the splits game in the later innings, whilst letting one of your RPs throw multiple innings now and again in long relief.
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by Felonius_Monk on Dec 21, 2009 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
I like this idea
But Tony (and maybe Duncan too) is such a stickler for having a “9th inning guy” that I just don’t know he’d actually do it. From Duncan’s interview that’s been posted here though, it seems like maybe there’s some talk of having a second guy throw a ninth sometimes, so I guess a platoon of guys doing it wouldn’t be totally out of the question. It’s going to piss Al off though!!!
Please consider any Hot Stove talk in the above comment is spoken under the assumption that the Cardinals are not signing Matt Holliday.
You know it really is.
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
a call to arms, tony, dave!
you made the closer, now kill the closer! every ninth inning will go ROOGY-LOOGY-ROOGY!*
*obviously depends on the presentation of left- and right-handed batters in the ninth.
My daddy told me, lookin' back, The best friend you'll have is a railroad track So when I was 13 said, I'm rollin' my own, And I'm leavin' Missouri and I'm never comin' home . . . Now I woke me up with a cardinal bird, And when I wanna talk, He hangs on every word. . . And I'm lost at the bottom of the world. - Tom Waits
This really sounds like Whiteyball reincarnated.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 21, 2009 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
Our problem in left field has obviously been solved now with the return of Whiteyball
Just put a reliever in LF and bring him in to pitch every so often while sending the pitcher out to left field, repeat as necessary (only belaboring the point ‘cause I’m guessing some of the kids don’t know about that part of Whiteyball).
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
damn kids these days
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
Yes, they should also get off my lawn
Only occasionally did that strategy backfire—I was lucky enough to be at the game in which Jose Oquendo pitched three scoreless innings of relief, but then we lost because Jose DeLeon was toooo slooowww getting to a fly ball. At least that’s how I remember it. I think it was the second game of a doubleheader in extra innings (like 17+, I think) and we ran out of pitchers.
I’m sure BR could tell me what really happened.
I meant to post that in the Greatest Moments in Baseball I’ve Witnessed Personally, but never got around to it.
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
Everybody says what a mad genius TLR is.
I haven’t seen him do nearly as much eyebrow raising shit as the Whitey did. That man would literally try anything to win a game.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 22, 2009 8:12 PM EST up reply actions
I just loved the sheer audacity
of saying, essentially, Oh, you think putting in that lefty pinch hitter is going to make me take out my awesome reliever? Well, fuck you, I’ll just put him in the outfield AND bring in the pitcher that needs to face this batter.
I also liked watching pitchers try to play the outfield. Some seemed slightly uncomfortable, as though they knew they’d BETTER NOT fuck up, and some seemed genuinely at home and even showed off a little for the fans.
I watched a whole lot of games in person from 1987-1989 and I didn’t see very many reliever-outfielders make grievous errors. Those were good times in baseball.
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
I didn't get to see many in person.
But thankfully channel 5 was carrying the majority of the games with Jack and Mike announcing. They make Dan and Al look so sad in comparison.
No, the pitchers actually accounted themselves nicely. I don’t remember any where it cost us very dearly.
Just out of curiosity, do remember the game that Whitey physically threw Templeton out of the game for flipping off the crowd? I will never forget seeing that.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 22, 2009 8:34 PM EST up reply actions
I wonder if anybody would have the balls to try moving
the pitchers back and forth like Whitey did in today’s game?
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 22, 2009 8:36 PM EST up reply actions
it happened at least once this year, IIRC
I can’t recall the teams, but I am off to look it up.
I will probably be back in a few hours to find that someone is faster than I am at such stuff.
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
sweet lou did it against us matty
and bobby cox did it down in the ATL
come on, get it together dude
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
I knew someone would beat me to it
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
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by mattyfrommo on Dec 23, 2009 12:13 AM EST up reply actions
from memory even
i didn’t use that fancy google like all the kids can’t live without
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
you're right.
i forgot all about lou doing it to us, nobody does it as prolifically as Whitey did it tho
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 23, 2009 12:39 AM EST up reply actions
Somebody should, I think
and it should be TLR next year. If we add someone like Calero or Springer (or even both) we’ll have a ton of righties who are death to RHP and a couple of very good LOOGYs, but nobody who is a genuine shut-down reliever on both sides. It’s the perfect bullpen composition for it to work, IMO (we should also look at getting Eddie Guardado if we’re going to do that, he’s looking at signing for the league minimum in Washington…).
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by Felonius_Monk on Dec 23, 2009 5:43 AM EST up reply actions
Didn't see Templeton get thrown out.
That was 1981, right? too lazy to look it up
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
That would account for the 12-13 pitchers we keep on hand at any one time.
No sense in paying for a LF when we have a plethora of them.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 22, 2009 7:32 PM EST up reply actions
it's also the only possible reason to ever have an 8-man bullpen
which should make Tony happy.
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by Felonius_Monk on Dec 21, 2009 4:02 PM EST up reply actions
good lord, he'd be even more insufferable if that worked
i’d be happy for the results, but would it be worth it?
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
it's auto-posted at 5 AM
He could have written it at 3:00 yesterday afternoon and then scheduled it to post at 5 AM. Doesn’t mean he was up that late, although, knowing DanUp, anything is possible considering his dedication to his craft.
Please consider any Hot Stove talk in the above comment is spoken under the assumption that the Cardinals are not signing Matt Holliday.
I Dunno, But...
…I like the idea of signing MacDoo to a 1 year deal, sort of as a buffer to allow Boggs and Motte to (hopefully) cowtinue to progress into a closer/set-up combo. I know he’s not King anyone right now, but if Duc can give him cowfidence in his slider again, and if he cowtinues to have batter drive balls into the ground, I’d say he’d be a decent, relatively cheap pick-up as an extra-arm in the ‘pen. of course, he DOES have ’closer experience, which would be nice to spell Franklin and maybe prevent an-udder late year melt-down. I’d like to see every 3rd save chance go to Motte or Boggs to see what they can do, but also MacDoo to keep him sharp. Franklin doesn’t need 40 saves when he can have 25-30 saves and be fresher for the play-offs.
:=8)
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
I could live with that scenario.
What would MacDougal cost? 3+?
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 21, 2009 10:52 AM EST up reply actions
$1m I would guess
3 would be ridiculous for a guy who, well, sucks, frankly.
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by Felonius_Monk on Dec 21, 2009 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
btw, dunno if you've seen his BB and K numbers the last three years
he’s walked nearly as many as he’s struck out. Ugh.
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by Felonius_Monk on Dec 21, 2009 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
Gotcha,
I retract my statement. It seems to me to be a lesser of the evils. I haven’t seen any that just make drool. Heath Bell is about the only one that impresses the shit outta me. Capps wouldn’t be bad, but not for the money that he will be courting. I suppose one could do worse than Calero.
I really didn’t realize MacDougal had gotten that bad.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 21, 2009 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
If you look at this data from 2009
he completely went away from throwing his slidelast year, which most people in the know considered to be a plus-plus pitch in the minor leagues. He’s throwing his fastball 85% of the time. That’s, um, A LOT. For reference, here’s our own one pitch wonder, Jason Motte, who completely lacks an effective second pitch, and he’s only throwing his fastball 78% of the time.
He either has a confidence problem or he doesn’t know where the slider is going, which doesn’t make sense, because he doesn’t know where the fastball is going either. Here’s MacDougal in 2008 — as you can see, he was throwing the slider a lot more last year than he was this year, for whatever reason. He was also a more effective pitcher in 2008. Sooooooo, color me clueless.
Please consider any Hot Stove talk in the above comment is spoken under the assumption that the Cardinals are not signing Matt Holliday.
I think that this should make it more appealing to get MacDougal
He seems like he needs a little duncan in him to get him going again, and maybe he could be had for under 2-3 mil
Go Broncos!!
by from First to Third on Dec 21, 2009 3:57 PM EST up reply actions
honestly
if he costs 2-3m he shouldn’t get a job, anywhere. I wouldn’t give him more than the league min (that would be OK as a reclamation project, I think), and I doubt he gets more than 1m. $2-3m for a guy who has been consistently awful or injured for a good 4 years now would be crazy. Gagne won’t get that and he was, at least, awesome 4 or 5 years ago (whereas MacDougal was merely reasonably good).
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by Felonius_Monk on Dec 21, 2009 4:05 PM EST up reply actions
If Mac (non dingers division)
gets 2-3 mil… whoever signs him to that contract should step into my office.
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
so league minimum
for a Looper-esque switch to the rotation?
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
GO GO GADGET 2-SEAMER
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by Felonius_Monk on Dec 22, 2009 9:04 AM EST up reply actions
For me, it's Kiko or no one on the bullpen FA market.
He is better than MacDougal and Capps, in my opinion, and likely to cost less than Capps and about the same as Mac the Ninth (or, maybe even less).
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Agreed
Calero or bust is what I say too.
Please consider any Hot Stove talk in the above comment is spoken under the assumption that the Cardinals are not signing Matt Holliday.
And, as you state above,
preferably on a one-year deal (with club option maybe); although, I could stomach two.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Lugo for Papelbon
I hear the red sox aren’t going to let lowell play…they need an infielder
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
by VolsnCards5 on Dec 21, 2009 11:08 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
this isn't green yet?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Dec 21, 2009 11:21 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Catcher Defense -- Blocking Balls
Over at BtB, Dan T. takes a look at catcher defense by looking at the block percentages for catchers. Both the Cardinal backstops rate pretty well, with Molina being in the top 10 and the top 3 among full time backstops behind Varitek and Ruiz.
I’ve never really thought that Yadi was great at blocking balls in the dirt — he’s good, but he’s not as good as Mike Matheny. He makes up for it by cutting down runners at 2nd base and picking runners off.
Please consider any Hot Stove talk in the above comment is spoken under the assumption that the Cardinals are not signing Matt Holliday.
while i agree that Matheny looked like he was better at blocking
is there data to prove Yadi hasnt been as good? i have seen enough to know not to trust my eyes unless there is data to back it up.
Chicago Cubs: The first century was funny...this second one is just sad...
That was really just my opinion
the data seems to state otherwise, although there seem to be wild year-to-year swings in the data, which makes me think that this isn’t very accurate. Although it’s probably better than what my eyes are telling me in terms of being fair.
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Those sortable tables are sweet
Wish you could do that in fanposts. I wrote SBNation tech to see if they will enable scripts in fanposts.
by FlimtotheFlam on Dec 21, 2009 6:55 PM EST up reply actions
I'm all for giving Calero another shot here
The fact that no one else seems to want makes me wonder what’s going on, esp. considering the numbers he posted this year. Is there some other info that we’re missing? Is he perhaps injured?
Maybe we get him, and have DD turn him into a starter, just to keep Dave happy with a “project”?
There was Gibson in the Reds' dugout, visibly manhandling about three Reds and tossing them bodily out of the dugout and onto the field...He was the toughest athlete mentally I ever saw, and the greatest competitor. JACK BUCK
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 21, 2009 11:39 AM EST reply actions
Ugh
*want him
There was Gibson in the Reds' dugout, visibly manhandling about three Reds and tossing them bodily out of the dugout and onto the field...He was the toughest athlete mentally I ever saw, and the greatest competitor. JACK BUCK
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 21, 2009 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
Best. Comment. EVAR
Hilarious, and pretty much says states exactly how I feel about the whole situation.
Please consider any Hot Stove talk in the above comment is spoken under the assumption that the Cardinals are not signing Matt Holliday.
Someone forward this to Hendry
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fwiw, chone likes capps, calero, and springer to both be worth +7 runs.
My daddy told me, lookin' back, The best friend you'll have is a railroad track So when I was 13 said, I'm rollin' my own, And I'm leavin' Missouri and I'm never comin' home . . . Now I woke me up with a cardinal bird, And when I wanna talk, He hangs on every word. . . And I'm lost at the bottom of the world. - Tom Waits
by tom s. on Dec 21, 2009 12:24 PM EST via mobile reply actions
*all, not both
My daddy told me, lookin' back, The best friend you'll have is a railroad track So when I was 13 said, I'm rollin' my own, And I'm leavin' Missouri and I'm never comin' home . . . Now I woke me up with a cardinal bird, And when I wanna talk, He hangs on every word. . . And I'm lost at the bottom of the world. - Tom Waits
by tom s. on Dec 21, 2009 12:25 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I like Springer a lot
guy is death to right-handers, and his peripherals really didn’t deteriorate at all last year. After unsustainable ERAs two years running as a Card (with lucky HR/FB ratio) he had a bad ERA year as an A (with an unlucky HR/FB ratio) but very similar peripherals. I think he’s still the same pitcher, but could be had for ~$1m or so (given his ties to St Louis). I would definitely pay $1m for him, and $2-3m for Calero. I think that solves a lot of our problems – Calero is the 8th inning guy, and we use a combo of our good LOOGYs (Reyes & Miller) and our good ROOGYs (Springer & Motte) as our main 7th inning combo, with KMac doing long-work unless his K/BB ratio improves, and Boggs as a wild card.
If Franklin then struggles, we just move him to a lower leverage position and promote whoever is doing the best out of Motte, Boggs & Calero.
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by Felonius_Monk on Dec 21, 2009 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
I wish Springer had been included in the Wallace/Holliday deal.
It would have made it a bit more tolerable. However, Springer is pretty old, even for a grizzled Proven Veteran.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
yeah, exactly, I agree.
Springer would’ve been a great fit for us last year, a team with solid LOOGYs but no-one who could reliably get out righties. The other guy I’d have wanted (who might’ve made it closer to a fair deal, given that Springer would only have been here for two months) was Mike Wuertz, who was an absolute beast last year, although I doubt Beane would’ve thrown him in.
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by Felonius_Monk on Dec 21, 2009 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
I believe I read somewhere
that Beane refused to throw Springer into the Wallace/Holliday trade. If true, there is no way Wuertz gets included without out us giving up more Future Redbirds.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I will give you $50 bucks and as case of beer
by FlimtotheFlam on Dec 21, 2009 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
are you sure?
i bet we could get quite a bit for that fabergé egg…
Chicago Cubs: The first century was funny...this second one is just sad...
So you like
Boggs as a wild card? Interesting.
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
Oh God I was hoping for an Always Sunny reference
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
It was sitting there on a tee...
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
what does figgins know about relief pitching?
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
What DOESN'T he know about relief pitching?
and FWIW, that’s kinda a redundant play-on-words, as the system was indeed actually named in honor of Figgy (the guy who does it is a big Halos fan).
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by Felonius_Monk on Dec 22, 2009 9:06 AM EST up reply actions
The chief told Strauss he had to take
a two week sabbatical out of town. This time of year is always tough for Straussie since it was 18 years ago this week that he lost his partner in a shootout.
Since then, he’d gone lone wolf, until just a couple weeks ago when the chief paired him with this new rook, Goold. Thus far, Strauss hasn’t gotten past his resentment that Goold can’t hold a candle to the partner who died … The partner whose life Strauss could have saved, if only he had been a little quicker, Strauss thinks.
Rest assured, Strauss will be off the wagon for the holidays.
by arch support on Dec 21, 2009 5:59 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Huh? Is there a scoop
Is this an actual occurrence, or some tongue-in-cheek joke?
I Googled this [ahh, yes… another brand name used as a verb] and came up with nothing… Joe Strauss doesn’t even have a
Wikipedia page – unless he is the reincarnation of the Kansas City Cowboys Player from 1884.
Any link to this story (or the story itself) would be appreciated
Baseball Fever....WPS!
this is just a spoof of the prototypical "tough cop" movie "plot."
My daddy told me, lookin' back, The best friend you'll have is a railroad track So when I was 13 said, I'm rollin' my own, And I'm leavin' Missouri and I'm never comin' home . . . Now I woke me up with a cardinal bird, And when I wanna talk, He hangs on every word. . . And I'm lost at the bottom of the world. - Tom Waits
Thanks!
sometimes the reality of the offseason borders on fantasy anyway, and the lines are often blurred.
How many days till pitchers and catchers report?
Baseball Fever....WPS!
I want this spoof to contain a unicorn
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Huh? Is there a scoop
Is this an actual occurrence, or some tongue-in-cheek joke?
I Googled this [ahh, yes… another brand name used as a verb] and came up with nothing… Joe Strauss doesn’t even have a
Wikipedia page – unless he is the reincarnation of the Kansas City Cowboys Player from 1884.
Any link to this story (or the story itself) would be appreciated
Fucking hell.
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by Felonius_Monk on Dec 22, 2009 9:07 AM EST up reply actions
Just seems like if you're confident in your closer, you don't say that he's meaningless.
Whatever. It’s afternoon, right? Time for another Franklin…
slow day...
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
Half of VEB is probably camped out on the floor of east coast airports.
Of course, this makes me wonder whether they forgot their laptops…
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
not me
i don’t get back to the mo until thursday night
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no...everyone's off of work
and this blog goes pretty silent from the work to home transition and then picks up again at about 8 PM or so.
Please consider any Hot Stove talk in the above comment is spoken under the assumption that the Cardinals are not signing Matt Holliday.
took me a second
to realize this was a reference to alcohol
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That would burn...
at least I imagine it would.
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
but it's so sterile!
mmmmmmmmm. Sterile.
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by Felonius_Monk on Dec 21, 2009 4:06 PM EST up reply actions
So isn't urine...
just sayin.
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
Gotta Paper Due...
..the 29th, and its eating big time into my VEB time, like a cow gone wild in a field of honey-covered clover.
:=8/
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
That's, like, so deep, man
Like, aren’t we all here? And aren’t we all a little afraid to, like, say something, like, put ourselves out there, you know?
Man…harsh.
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haaaaaavvvee you met gdm?
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
f'ing gdm
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exactly
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
That never stopped me.
Go for it and feel better about life.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 22, 2009 10:35 AM EST up reply actions
hmmm
do you perhaps no the location of a bacon bar?
adds Bacon Bar to the list of things to think about for the VEB BAR.
yes….BACON BAR!!!!
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
um, yeah instead of a salad bar we'd have a bacon bar, i like it
i like it a lots
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
I'm really suprised that you didn't break out the bacon beer mug
at the mention of a bacon bar.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 22, 2009 7:35 PM EST up reply actions
i'm moar than a one trick pony you know
Az hates it too, so the less he see’s it, the better off we all are
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
damnit don't make me call dan & have this removed!
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
"talking baseball"
does include stuff other than stats.
though they are enjoyable. I just leave the math to others.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Dec 22, 2009 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
we talk baseball?
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
I have found that packing your laptop and reading a book while you wait is so much faster.
Laptops are a pain because you have to put them in their own security bin and I don’t feel like paying for the airport internet.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
paying for the airport internet
that’s why one acquires an iphone and jailbreaks it
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
I'm not that technologically inclined.
And I don’t know anyone who is and would do it for me.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Do you know how to jailbreak and tether an Iphone?
My buddy needs this done badly but I have no experience with Iphones.
by FlimtotheFlam on Dec 21, 2009 9:06 PM EST up reply actions
yeah
it’s super simple.
first you need to find out what firmware it had. probably would just want to update to the latest version (3.1.2) and then google “jailbreak 3.1.2”
lots of walkthroughs. i jailbroke with a program called blackrain and used this walkthrough for my last jailbreak. you just download blackrain, plug in the phone, run the black rain exe file and then click the button that says “make it rain.” it’ll go through a little stuff and like 30 seconds later, it’s jailbroken. then you just open the blackrain app on the phone, download cydia (app store for jailbroken apps) and then enjoy.
then, here’s the walkthrough to enable free internet tethering.
really simple stuff if you feel comfortable doing it. also, not a bad idea to back up contacts and such with itunes before doing this. just in case
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
i should also point out
when going through the tethering walkthrough, in cydia you want “sections” not “categories” and it’s called “ifoneguide” not “ifoneguide.nl”
other than that, it’s very simple if you just follow the walkthrough.
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I just jailbroke my iPhone
It’s stupid easy to do. It’s frankly irresponsible to have an iPhone without jailbreaking it.
This video is pertinent to your friend’s interests. Use the above tethering walkthrough PJ listed, since I haven’t gotten around to doing that yet.
P.S. Rock is better than Cydia, in my opinion.
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well
rock requires you to sign up to download their apps. i don’t trust that
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Just use a junk email
And it automatically backs up your apps, plus the interface is 1000x better, and it lets you try things for a short period of time before committing to buying them.
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i did
but then i forgot the password apparently and had no way to retrieve it. and it says “only one rock app account per iphone!”
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yeah, I've done mine already
it’s awesome.
Use pwnage.
by vivaelpujols on Dec 21, 2009 9:31 PM EST up reply actions
do you do this to get away from at&t? or is there another reason?
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
to get cool third party apps
And the picture of Pujols on a unicorn as my background.
by vivaelpujols on Dec 21, 2009 9:33 PM EST up reply actions
FYI
Home button + lock button = screencap
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well, i had to get it on my computer to upload it
by vivaelpujols on Dec 21, 2009 9:38 PM EST up reply actions
Screencap, email to self?
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aww
shit, dawg
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what app
did you use for that? i know about winterboard and all that, but never found a decent one for using custom backgrounds
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
I just copied bracken's picture from safari onto my photos
Then set it as my background, and used winter board.
by vivaelpujols on Dec 21, 2009 9:39 PM EST up reply actions
hmm
i will fiddle with it
i won’t lie, i didn’t try too hard
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
is TWHS?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
yes
i will try harder to fiddle with it
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
well, that was easy
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
do you have 29 missed calls?
Chicago Cubs: The first century was funny...this second one is just sad...
Is there a reason you flipped the pujols/lidge/unicorn pic?
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by Felonius_Monk on Dec 22, 2009 9:08 AM EST up reply actions
because that's how cameras work lol
look at the numbers. they backwards too
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by prophetjohn on Dec 22, 2009 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
or maybe a mirror pic?
it actually doesn’t make sense. i shoul’ve thought this through before i started making fun of you
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by prophetjohn on Dec 22, 2009 12:22 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
if you want to use other carriers,
you simply need to “unlock” it. blackrain can’t do that. jailbreaking it allows you to install apps and do thing that at&t/apple don’t want you to do
my main thing is the tethering. there are internet filters at work and i’m only allowed 60 minutes of (mostly) unfiltered internet per day. so this helps with just general internet access and is great during baseball season so i can watch games while at work
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ah i get it
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
that's not usually what gdm says!
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
bazinga ;(
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
last i heard
quickpwn and pwnage tool didn’t work for 3+ firmwares
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I'm still drunk from last night's party with the bww girls at murphys...
fucked up night even by my standards….
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
Oh do tell...
because from what I can tell you have interesting standards…. ;-)
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by fourstick on Dec 21, 2009 5:22 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
haha can't go into too much detail
My “date” was a cute little black girl and we share a common bond where we HATE white guys acting like they’re black (fake black accents, stupid clothes, and contrived body language). So my friend was all about him for some reason so when she introduced me she goes "kyle meet “whatever the fuck his name was” I shook his hand and acknowledged him as “k-fed”. hahah he got all red and puffed up while I giggled at him.
I did manage to kiss 3 (almmmooosst 4) different girls and get a 3 way kiss going and STILL managed to go home alone! I think I need a new closer cause I totally blew the save. Keep in mind this is my main social circle of friends so it makes the dynamic even more f’d up.
There was a ceremonial deleting of a contact from my phone:
the deleted person showed up at the after hours bar and was texting me when I brushed her off. My friend just kept saying how hot she was and how we should go and “hang out” Thanks for the support buddy.
Everybody’s facebook statuses revolve around being black out drunk, hungover and at work and I wished facebook had a relationship status that had “Trainwreck” as an option.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
Did someone do their best
“The Situation” impression?
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
I feel like you need your own
blog about your personal life with names changed to protect the innocent.
Please consider any Hot Stove talk in the above comment is spoken under the assumption that the Cardinals are not signing Matt Holliday.
So, no names would change then.
Now with extra feisty!
by spants on Dec 21, 2009 6:06 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
baaazinga
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
haha i'm a poor man's Tucker Max.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
I hope to God's sake
that you are not as big of a douchnozzle as Tucker Max. One of my best friends from high school was his roommate for a couple of years in Chicago. I’ve never met a more self-centered jerk-off than that guy. Smart, sure. Funny, well, as a writer he is. In person he’s just kind of dickish and makes with stupid frat boy humor all the time.
I guess what I’m saying is that he’s not someone to aspire to be by any stretch of the imagination.
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if you ever become a middle-class man's tucker max
I will ban you from this website, and I will not have a second thought about it. that guy sucks.
by DanUpBaby on Dec 21, 2009 7:36 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Tucker Max is an amalgam of all the things I hate about Tucker Max.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
I KNOW! IT MAKES ME CONQUASSATE!
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
That goes for you too!
I actually had to look that one up.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 21, 2009 8:27 PM EST up reply actions
with google, anyone can be a logogogue
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
what a loquacious bastard
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almost voluble even
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 21, 2009 8:32 PM EST up reply actions
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
And just what the hell is that supposed to be?
by vivaelpujols on Dec 21, 2009 8:41 PM EST up reply actions
I heard Tucker Max uses it to impress the ladies.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
by hazel on Dec 21, 2009 8:43 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
before or after he throws up on them during the middle of sex?
Future Redbirds - tracking Cardinal prospects for Cardinal Nation
there's a middle part?
My daddy told me, lookin' back, The best friend you'll have is a railroad track So when I was 13 said, I'm rollin' my own, And I'm leavin' Missouri and I'm never comin' home . . . Now I woke me up with a cardinal bird, And when I wanna talk, He hangs on every word. . . And I'm lost at the bottom of the world. - Tom Waits
by tom s. on Dec 21, 2009 8:46 PM EST up reply actions 9 recs
and I'm not following. . .
Is this another gay joke? I’ll need Fritz to explain it if that’s the case.
Future Redbirds - tracking Cardinal prospects for Cardinal Nation
just suggesting that its so brief it's got a beginning and an end.
but no middle.
i hate explaining jokes.
My daddy told me, lookin' back, The best friend you'll have is a railroad track So when I was 13 said, I'm rollin' my own, And I'm leavin' Missouri and I'm never comin' home . . . Now I woke me up with a cardinal bird, And when I wanna talk, He hangs on every word. . . And I'm lost at the bottom of the world. - Tom Waits
except johnny five.
My daddy told me, lookin' back, The best friend you'll have is a railroad track So when I was 13 said, I'm rollin' my own, And I'm leavin' Missouri and I'm never comin' home . . . Now I woke me up with a cardinal bird, And when I wanna talk, He hangs on every word. . . And I'm lost at the bottom of the world. - Tom Waits
you all need commas.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
banned, how would you like to be, that?
the power, it goes to my head.
My daddy told me, lookin' back, The best friend you'll have is a railroad track So when I was 13 said, I'm rollin' my own, And I'm leavin' Missouri and I'm never comin' home . . . Now I woke me up with a cardinal bird, And when I wanna talk, He hangs on every word. . . And I'm lost at the bottom of the world. - Tom Waits
by tom s. on Dec 21, 2009 9:17 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i rec'd that
just cuz i don’t wanna be banned
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
there's something brown on your nose
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
my sources say yes
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
ha ha ha
I get it now. Thank you for the explanation.
/robot monotone
//sorry for being stupid
Future Redbirds - tracking Cardinal prospects for Cardinal Nation
hey, now say, "fitter happier more productive" in your monotone!
My daddy told me, lookin' back, The best friend you'll have is a railroad track So when I was 13 said, I'm rollin' my own, And I'm leavin' Missouri and I'm never comin' home . . . Now I woke me up with a cardinal bird, And when I wanna talk, He hangs on every word. . . And I'm lost at the bottom of the world. - Tom Waits
by tom s. on Dec 21, 2009 9:20 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i'll cover the creepy drunken piano bits
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
perfect!
My daddy told me, lookin' back, The best friend you'll have is a railroad track So when I was 13 said, I'm rollin' my own, And I'm leavin' Missouri and I'm never comin' home . . . Now I woke me up with a cardinal bird, And when I wanna talk, He hangs on every word. . . And I'm lost at the bottom of the world. - Tom Waits
rec'd for the sig line, esp.
There was Gibson in the Reds' dugout, visibly manhandling about three Reds and tossing them bodily out of the dugout and onto the field...He was the toughest athlete mentally I ever saw, and the greatest competitor. JACK BUCK
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Dec 22, 2009 12:41 AM EST up reply actions
annnnd green
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
i don't know who that is, but if he's as bad as everyone is saying
i don’t think anyone will be upset at your decision
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
Tucker Max
Here’s your formula:
Hunter S. Thompson PLUS
Steff from Pretty in Pink PLUS
A game of Beer Pong PLUS
Ryan Braun MINUS
Talent EQUALS
Tucker Max.
Here comes the funcooker!
by the red baron on Dec 22, 2009 8:55 AM EST up reply actions
Dude
you comparing him with Hunter S. Thompson should get you shot out of Hunter’s space cannon. He’s not in HST’s league.
Please consider any Hot Stove talk in the above comment is spoken under the assumption that the Cardinals are not signing Matt Holliday.
Tucker Max alternative recipe:
Josh Hamilton MINUS
Jesus PLUS
Ryan Braun PLUS
Stephanie Meyer MINUS
Vampires EQUALS
Tucker Max
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
by hazel on Dec 22, 2009 2:43 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
wait was he the one that had that stupid movie out in the summer?
that was awful, he sucks
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
Quality-wise, no.
Thus, the minus talent portion of the equation. But when it comes right down to it, Max’ formula for success begins in much the same place Thompson’s did: rather than reporting on things you see, live an extreme lifestyle and report on it from the inside.
Obviously, the two are not on the same plane. But Tucker is most definitely trying to emulate the gonzo style of writing/reporting/whatever.
Here comes the funcooker!
by the red baron on Dec 23, 2009 3:22 AM EST up reply actions
I don't think he's living an extreme lifestyle though
I think he’s just glorifying a lifestyle that college kids live and doing it into his 30’s when the rest of us have moved on with our lives. The scary thing is the number of people, men especially, who want to emulate him.
Please consider any Hot Stove talk in the above comment is spoken under the assumption that the Cardinals are not signing Matt Holliday.
I knew there was a reason I liked you
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While a mediocre writer,
he does have a first class imagination and a world beating ego. It’ll take him far.
I was blissfully unaware of tucker max's exsistence until this comment.
Around here his behavior is the type that gets you left for dead in the bushes.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 22, 2009 10:39 AM EST up reply actions
is that a Ryan Braun T-shirt?
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
I just lost all faith in rockstark
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
This probably won't come to anything...
…but, um, huh?
"But I’m still hungry. I’ve got 10 fingers. There’s one that’s busy and I need nine more."
- Albert Pujols
Marquis to D.C.
About $15MM in value and 2 years in length, according to MLBTR. Obviously, we can pencil the Nats into the 2010 playoffs…
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
"That sniper at the all star game turned out to be a real blessing in disguise for the Nats"
-Joe Buck, 2010 NLCS.
Ode to Jason Marquis
Jason Marquis will soon be a Nat
After once wearing the birds on the bat
His teams make the post-season
But then for some reason
They don’t let him pitch during that.
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
by IHeartBoog on Dec 21, 2009 8:10 PM EST up reply actions 22 recs
recarific
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
and green.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
here is the challenge
can you do one based on a VEBer?
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
oooh this is an excellent idea.
I’m off to catch the Suns-Cavs game, but when I get back, its ON.
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
TWVEPS.
My daddy told me, lookin' back, The best friend you'll have is a railroad track So when I was 13 said, I'm rollin' my own, And I'm leavin' Missouri and I'm never comin' home . . . Now I woke me up with a cardinal bird, And when I wanna talk, He hangs on every word. . . And I'm lost at the bottom of the world. - Tom Waits
I just had a flash of Robert Downey jr.
in Back to School.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 21, 2009 8:44 PM EST up reply actions
and I almost put
don’t say " do me" directed towards GDM, but I thought it would be in poor taste
I should have known this would come from one of his kind
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
i hope not
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
VEP may just be a tweener,
but with pitchFX his stuff’s sweeter.
His stuff’s always logically sound,
though at times he gets a bit loud,
like when he and JC measured weeners.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
by hazel on Dec 21, 2009 8:56 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
Ode to Yadi2
There’s a VEB’er named Yadi2
Who keeps track of everything we do
He helps set the themes
With his glossary of memes
For all of us to refer to.
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
by IHeartBoog on Dec 21, 2009 11:52 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
well, the rhyming won't be a problem
but I can’t say I know you that well (internetly speaking).
i need some fun facts.
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
Ode to CodyG
There once was a commenter named CodyG
Who posted .gifs for everyone to see
And if I’m not mistaken
He sure loves his bacon
Though sometimes inappropriately
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
Aaah link fail! Start over.
Ode to CodyG
There once was a commenter named CodyG
Who posted .gifs for everyone to see
And if I’m not mistaken
He sure loves his bacon
Though sometimes inappropriately
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
by IHeartBoog on Dec 22, 2009 12:26 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i have no problem with the link
i just wanted to put up the .gif. You clearly won the challenge.
I am the Batman
I particularly liked the slant rhyme of themes and memes.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Dec 22, 2009 12:40 AM EST up reply actions
well I'll be a mf'er
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
Gotta throw a rec at that.
You have a true talent IHB.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Dec 21, 2009 8:39 PM EST up reply actions
I knew there was a reason I still check VEB
This thing ain’t getting any greener, but I’ll still give it a try.
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Dec 21, 2009 9:41 PM EST up reply actions
turn off the webcam IHB!
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
I wish he'd have come back to the Central
I miss not being able to make jokes about him. Stupid unbalanced schedule effectively killing off players in other divisions to me…
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
That's really not a horrible deal for them
If he can continue that GB rate, he’ll be an effective pitcher for them, and he’s never been hurt his entire career, so they can count on him for innings.
They’ve got the makings of a good rotation if Strasburg is ready to go sometime next season (if it was me, I’d stick him in AA and see how he fares, and then get him ready for a jump to the big leagues in June if he’s successful). Strasburg and Zimmerman profile as top of the rotation pitchers, while Lannan and Marquis are good middle of the rotation starters. They can fill the fifth spot with just about anyone.
If their pitching is good next year, they could be a surprise team that flirts with 80 wins.
Please consider any Hot Stove talk in the above comment is spoken under the assumption that the Cardinals are not signing Matt Holliday.
Zimmerman is out for the year...
and there’s no way they ride Strasburg hard after being in college last year and throwing 19 innings in the AFL. He’ll probably pitch 160 innings max, most of those in the minors.
Seems like a waste for a team that has no shot.
MB for LF in 2010!
Maybe they wanted a wait for it...
Marquee name. Yup I’ll be here all week.
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
I doubt Strasburg spends much time in the minors
And if he does, it’s purely for FA/SuperTwo status stuff. The guy is already Verlander with a better changeup, he’s going to completely chew up any non-MLB hitters.
Not afraid to nitpick
This is officially the overstatement of the year for 2009.
See you all in 2010.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
No really
-Strasburg sat 97-101 once he got heated up in the AFL. Not like “touching the high 90s” on the Baseball America radar gun, as in his slowest fastball on PITCHf/x was 97 mph. He throws harder than Verlander.
-His slurve is 83-85 with -4.5ish vertical and 5 and change horizontal. Verlander’s curve is 79-83 -5.7 vertical and 5.7 horizontal. They’re pretty similar pitches.
-Strasburg’s change is rated as being plus by scouts and the PITCHf/x stuff gives him a 9 MPH difference. In his finals start with PITCHf/x, he threw the changeup 8 times, got 5 swinging strikes, a foul ball, a groundball and one ball.
He’s not going to throw 240 innings obviously, but he’s considered by pretty much everyone as the best pitching prospect ever for a reason. I’m taking the under on Verlander’s career 3.78 FIP.
Not afraid to nitpick
Yeah, his pitches are fast.
Mike MacDougal also throws fast. Strasburg is a great prospect, but Justin Verlander is an excellent player who’s already in the major leagues.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
Stuff isn't everything
It’s maybe 30% of a pitcher’s success. Location, approach and deception are also very important.
by vivaelpujols on Dec 21, 2009 8:55 PM EST up reply actions
Indeed
He also is rated as having plus command and approach (by Tony Gwynn) deception I have no idea.
Once again, the guy is the best pitching prospect in history for a reason and he’s projected to be a better version of Verlander and that’s also what PITCHf/x shows. 2009 Verlander 7-8 Wins is not what I’m saying here, Verlander’s career numbers.
Not afraid to nitpick
I hate to pull this out
But watch the guy pitch, it’s not fair. He’s ready for the big leagues right now, zero hyperbole, in the same way that Prior and Lincecum and the like were (and many a scout agree with me on this one). They won’t start him in the big leagues, but he would do fine. Barring injury, zero chance he deserves to be down in the minors the whole year.
Not afraid to nitpick
Well he should anyways, so the Nats could save service time
by vivaelpujols on Dec 22, 2009 1:24 AM EST up reply actions
yes
no reason to start the clock early…
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Dec 22, 2009 9:14 AM EST up reply actions
to get fans to the stadium?
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
he was also pretty hittable in the AFL
3 HR allowed in 19 IP, pitching to minor leaguers, doesn’t scream “better than Verlander” just yet. He may get there, but shouldn’t we give him a year in the minors first?
If he was my prospect, I’d handle him with kid gloves. Especially since I’ll next compete in 2011, at the earliest.
it's Clydesdales vs Goats. Actually sums up Cards vs. Cubs quite nicely. -all4tookie
yeah
they’re already a solid offensive team. if they become a solid pitching team, with a little luck they could make a wild card run
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
Which would you rather do?
Pitcher A, who is entering his age 30 season, with a career ERA+ of 96, fresh off a 15-6 season with a 3.89 FIP, with a career FIP of 4.54, for 4 years and $41MM.
OR
Pitcher B, who is entering his age 31 season, with a career ERA+ of 99, fresh off a 15-13 season with a 4.10 FIP, and a career FIP of 4.82, for 2 years and $15.5MM.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
you bastard!
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
An so close to Christmas to...
nothing like making me swear loudly in my office on December 21st…..
Please consider any Hot Stove talk in the above comment is spoken under the assumption that the Cardinals are not signing Matt Holliday.
lol
Is there a -1 option?
My halloween costume: the Indiana secondary iPhone- no matter how much you want to love it, you know the coverage area sucks.
-ChronicHoosier
tyler bighames suspended for a positive drug of abuse test.
from goold:
Three for “drug of abuse.” Three more for PED. One on suspended list. One released. What’s that math add up to?
My daddy told me, lookin' back, The best friend you'll have is a railroad track So when I was 13 said, I'm rollin' my own, And I'm leavin' Missouri and I'm never comin' home . . . Now I woke me up with a cardinal bird, And when I wanna talk, He hangs on every word. . . And I'm lost at the bottom of the world. - Tom Waits
I am lost
who the hell, or what the hell, is that?
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
tyler bighames = cards draft pick in 2009.
My daddy told me, lookin' back, The best friend you'll have is a railroad track So when I was 13 said, I'm rollin' my own, And I'm leavin' Missouri and I'm never comin' home . . . Now I woke me up with a cardinal bird, And when I wanna talk, He hangs on every word. . . And I'm lost at the bottom of the world. - Tom Waits
now you're just making shit up tom
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
no realli
Center fielder Tyler Bighames, a minor-leaguer with the St. Louis Cardinals Gulf Coast League affiliate, was suspended 50 games for a second positive test, Major League Baseball announced Monday.
* is an Asshat
now it is a conspiracy
you are all making shit up
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
of course we are, matty
B-R is not a real site
fangraphs is generated from Minute Maid Park centerfield
VEB is your drug hallucination
now give us your brownies
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Dec 21, 2009 9:08 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i wondered
what was under that damn hill
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
I'll give up a lot of things
but you’ll have to pry my brownies out of my cold, dead hands
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
you've caught me.
i really am joe strauss.
My daddy told me, lookin' back, The best friend you'll have is a railroad track So when I was 13 said, I'm rollin' my own, And I'm leavin' Missouri and I'm never comin' home . . . Now I woke me up with a cardinal bird, And when I wanna talk, He hangs on every word. . . And I'm lost at the bottom of the world. - Tom Waits
I was told there would be no math
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
OT: +10 points and a shiny rec to anyone who understands my avatar
It’s a form of wishful thinking.
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c'mon
your penis is surely bigger than that.
/couldn’t resist
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by azruavatar on Dec 21, 2009 9:15 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Bite my shiny metal ass!
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is it a tetris joke?
My daddy told me, lookin' back, The best friend you'll have is a railroad track So when I was 13 said, I'm rollin' my own, And I'm leavin' Missouri and I'm never comin' home . . . Now I woke me up with a cardinal bird, And when I wanna talk, He hangs on every word. . . And I'm lost at the bottom of the world. - Tom Waits
Is it a graphical proof
that pi = 4?
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
I was an English major
That should answer your question.
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For you and others who don't get the joke
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indiana_Pi_Bill Read towards the bottom for pi = 4 specifically.
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
Also if you're an English major
I can only assume it’s making a statement about the duality of man.
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
if he's an english major, the penis theory is more likely.
My daddy told me, lookin' back, The best friend you'll have is a railroad track So when I was 13 said, I'm rollin' my own, And I'm leavin' Missouri and I'm never comin' home . . . Now I woke me up with a cardinal bird, And when I wanna talk, He hangs on every word. . . And I'm lost at the bottom of the world. - Tom Waits
Why I oughta
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Much better point than mine.
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
"The Indiana House of Representatives referred the bill to the Committee on Swamp Lands"
Oh, how I love politics.
it's Clydesdales vs Goats. Actually sums up Cards vs. Cubs quite nicely. -all4tookie
what can we do with these points?
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
Utah looking at itself in a mirror?
by Willie McGee's Twin on Dec 21, 2009 9:35 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Hilarious.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Dec 21, 2009 10:25 PM EST up reply actions
Not really, actually
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Does it have anything to do with NIN?
by FlimtotheFlam on Dec 21, 2009 10:28 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Hooray
Wishful thinking = more discipline for the Cardinals in 2010.
A rec for you! Don’t spend all your points in one place.
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I still don't get it.
I’m sticking with graphical proof of pi = 4.
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
Now can anyone tell me how I found it?
Everything you need to know is in the image
by FlimtotheFlam on Dec 21, 2009 11:58 PM EST up reply actions
That's a neat trick.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Dec 22, 2009 12:53 AM EST up reply actions
YOU DOG YOU
That’s okay, nobody seemed to be getting it anyway.
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went to home depot off Hanley and 40
the Dirty Dogs (Dogz?) stand at the exit said “double price for cubs fans”
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
This is 2009, Y2S
Stories like this are supposed to be accompanied with blurry pictures taken by your phone. Get with the times.
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you gonna get me a phone?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Yes
It’s in the mail.
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did you remember
to delete your porn?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
bug or feature?
My daddy told me, lookin' back, The best friend you'll have is a railroad track So when I was 13 said, I'm rollin' my own, And I'm leavin' Missouri and I'm never comin' home . . . Now I woke me up with a cardinal bird, And when I wanna talk, He hangs on every word. . . And I'm lost at the bottom of the world. - Tom Waits
depends
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
I would never do that to you
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there's a street in st louis
called hanley?
does it by chance intersect ramirez?
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
only in our dreams
Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.
I got free hot dogs there once
for answering a question about Rogers Hornsby. The hot dog guy was stunned I knew who he was.
you think
it will be implemented into gameday in a manner kind of like pitch f/x?
if that were the case, you should be able to export it
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
yes, if they continue to allow the public to access the xml's
They have no incentives not too, but they might just be dicks.
by vivaelpujols on Dec 21, 2009 9:43 PM EST up reply actions
Is it a bad sign that my immediate reaction to someone perhaps withholding things from the public is
“Don’t worry, someone will find a way to pirate it.”
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I DON'T CARE...
I JUST WAN’T MY PITCH F/X
by vivaelpujols on Dec 21, 2009 9:46 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks for using the contracted version of "waning crescent"
you just don’t find druids with a sense of brevity anymore.
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Dec 21, 2009 9:47 PM EST up reply actions
i think it's great
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
Yah
just looking at the Bloomberg site makes me think that everything is going to end up being proprietary now, and that we’re all going to have to pay for access.
Please consider any Hot Stove talk in the above comment is spoken under the assumption that the Cardinals are not signing Matt Holliday.
Anyone else listing to sad Bob Schneider tunes and drinking wine,
looking forward to getting home for the Holidays this week but really missing summer and baseball at the same time?
I'm already home for the holidays.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Dec 21, 2009 10:53 PM EST up reply actions
i have a hard time taking the brewers seriously
while mark mulder is part of their plans.
everything points to a Mark Mulder signing, and I think [GM Doug] Melvin will remain on the lookout for starting pitchers available in cost-neutral trades, bench players on the free-agent market and pitchers in general for depth."
if the grand brewer plan is
a) randy wolf;
b) mark mulder; and
c) whatever FA/trade turnips fall off the turnip truck,
then they really ought to trade prince fielder and rebuild.
My daddy told me, lookin' back, The best friend you'll have is a railroad track So when I was 13 said, I'm rollin' my own, And I'm leavin' Missouri and I'm never comin' home . . . Now I woke me up with a cardinal bird, And when I wanna talk, He hangs on every word. . . And I'm lost at the bottom of the world. - Tom Waits
So...
I saw a truck with BOHART on the license plate. Seriously, wtf.
I’m really upset I didn’t take a picture of it.
I wonder if the switch hitting experiment ever worked out…
was it covered in GRIT!?
My daddy told me, lookin' back, The best friend you'll have is a railroad track So when I was 13 said, I'm rollin' my own, And I'm leavin' Missouri and I'm never comin' home . . . Now I woke me up with a cardinal bird, And when I wanna talk, He hangs on every word. . . And I'm lost at the bottom of the world. - Tom Waits
it was being pulled by a single, miniature clydesdale.
it was the goddamn grittiest thing i’ve ever seen.
by adiueordie on Dec 21, 2009 10:58 PM EST up reply actions 7 recs
Good job by you kid.
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
OT: Favorite candy cane flavor...
Personally I prefer blueberry…
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
Strawberry.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Dec 22, 2009 12:42 AM EST up reply actions
yuck
bacon is the only right answer.
http://theoatmeal.com/comics/bacon_love (i swear it’s a good link)
I am the Batman
damn it
someone unrec’d the green overflow thread. now someone else needs to rec the ones that have 5.
I am the Batman
Awesome prank Farva
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
Which Bullpen FA is the best option for us to sign?
I still like dotel the most,but if valverde’s price drops under $6M(very unlikely) I would take a chance at him.
I am the Batman
Dotel isn't too bad
but I expect he’s wanting reasonable money. He’s made $5m/year for a the last few seasons (give or take) so I’m guessing he’ll be looking for similar money next year.
IMO Calero and Springer are the two best options who’ll cost <$3m. Both murder on righties, Calero will probably cost more but had a superior 2009 (and is probably better anyhow).
Neither Calero or Springer are very good against lefties, but, to be honest, Dotel isn’t either – he gives up a .343 OBP against them (career) so he’s approaching being a righty specialist too. Calero is arguably better than Dotel and will cost less.
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Dec 22, 2009 9:28 AM EST up reply actions
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