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The Joe Strauss Overnight Thread

C'mon.  You're weak.  You know you're staying up till midnight again.  You know you're going to refresh STLtoday.com constantly so that you can be the FIRST person to read the article about how Matt Holliday gave John Mozeliak a hug yesterday.  Albert Pujols was there; he smiled.  You know you want to read that first.  You can't help yourself.

I expect the first comment on that article to be a "first" comment from a VEB moniker.

Joe Strauss for the win.

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ha!

there…it wasn’t said.

by stlfan on Dec 14, 2009 10:33 PM EST reply actions   3 recs

not on this thread, DORKS

the robot meant on the actual Strauss midnight “update”

f’in Nerds

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Dec 14, 2009 10:38 PM EST up reply actions  

oh yeah

i guess i am the dork now

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Dec 14, 2009 10:59 PM EST up reply actions  

dork

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 14, 2009 11:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Fist

that’s right I brought it back

I am the Batman

by CodyG on Dec 14, 2009 10:33 PM EST reply actions  

and in epic fail style

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Dec 14, 2009 10:40 PM EST up reply actions  

The best kind.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Dec 14, 2009 11:28 PM EST up reply actions  

SHE'S ALIVE!

don’t read the other thread from today. trust me, don’t read it

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 14, 2009 11:28 PM EST up reply actions  

It was 880 comments so I wasn't going to.

What the F did y’all do without me here to chaperone you?

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Dec 14, 2009 11:33 PM EST up reply actions  

just some talk about a baby

have you heard?

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Dec 14, 2009 11:34 PM EST up reply actions  

WTF?

This just killed my day. Killed I tell you.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Dec 14, 2009 11:35 PM EST up reply actions  

if you bastards made cgirly cry i'm gonna have to hurt someone

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 14, 2009 11:36 PM EST up reply actions  

you wish you could

this is the INTERNET how are you going to find us. Mu ha ha ha

I am the Batman

by CodyG on Dec 14, 2009 11:38 PM EST up reply actions  

who said anything about it being someone on VEB?

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 14, 2009 11:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Well they didn't make me cry.

Just Colby. At least there aren’t naked pictures yet.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Dec 14, 2009 11:39 PM EST up reply actions  

surely you can appreciate that he's a mother hen now.

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 14, 2009 11:58 PM EST up reply actions  

its best she finds out here

amongst friends

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Dec 14, 2009 11:39 PM EST up reply actions  

tis true cgirly, people suck, especially the ones we give our hearts to

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 14, 2009 11:41 PM EST up reply actions  

About the same as me.

Maybe more because she’s younger and more innocent.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Dec 14, 2009 11:42 PM EST up reply actions  

But she's younger and hasn't been to college.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Dec 14, 2009 11:43 PM EST up reply actions  

So She'd Be Upset...

…if we traded Colby fo, say, 48 tons of bacon. Maple syrup bacon!

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Dec 14, 2009 11:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Ew.

Yes.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Dec 14, 2009 11:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Like 10 million times better.

I guess Grady can play left. With his arm there’s no way he’s playing right. And Colby’s a better center fielder than he is.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Dec 14, 2009 11:47 PM EST up reply actions  

No.

I will always like the Indians. It’s not based on Grady.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Dec 14, 2009 11:49 PM EST up reply actions  

What About

48 tons of liver and onions. Sweeeet Vidalia onions?

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Dec 14, 2009 11:50 PM EST up reply actions  

You could trade any kind of food to get Grady

and it would be fine with me.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Dec 14, 2009 11:51 PM EST up reply actions  

ditto

I’ll throw in some old baseballs

by stlfan on Dec 14, 2009 11:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Because I could see him all the time.

But I really would rather he stay in Cleveland. They need him.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Dec 14, 2009 11:52 PM EST up reply actions  

they need him?

wouldn’t you rather Grady be happy with the cards, winning games.

I am the Batman

by CodyG on Dec 14, 2009 11:53 PM EST up reply actions  

They need him to win.

They have a lot of good young players coming up. I think in the next two years they’ll be much better and it’s the AL Central, it’s kind of a toss up every year.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Dec 14, 2009 11:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't.

Do you know anything about Cleveland’s farm system?

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Dec 14, 2009 11:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Farm System, Scmarm Shestem

If you look at scoutingbook.com Bryan anderson is better than Santana.

I am the Batman

by CodyG on Dec 15, 2009 12:02 AM EST up reply actions  

That's one guy.

I am not going to get into a debate about whether or not the Indians will compete. I think they will always compete even irrationally. I can’t separate my feelings. From what I’ve seen of the White Sox if the Indians prospects play out like they should we will have a very competitive team. Granted I don’t know a lot about the White Sox prospects but even they all were comparable to Indians prospects they would pretty evenly matched teams.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Dec 15, 2009 12:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Because I have no life.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Dec 14, 2009 11:55 PM EST up reply actions  

This may be taken wrong.

No offense to anyone but really if my group of friend went out more I wouldn’t be around as much.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Dec 14, 2009 11:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't know.

I talk a lot.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Dec 14, 2009 11:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey, that's nothing.

I’ve been here since 2006, and I only have ~2500 comments, compared to your nearly 10000 and her 11000 something.

Here comes the funcooker!

by the red baron on Dec 15, 2009 1:18 AM EST up reply actions  

please don't look at mine

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 15, 2009 1:19 AM EST up reply actions  

That's what she said.

He shoots, he scores!

Here comes the funcooker!

by the red baron on Dec 15, 2009 1:20 AM EST up reply actions  

eu tu red?

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 15, 2009 1:22 AM EST up reply actions  

...so then the man says

“Look people, I’ve come to seize your berries, not to praise them!”
One of those old jokes to which I only remember the punchline.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Dec 15, 2009 10:16 AM EST up reply actions  

That's why I've commented so much today

Nothing to do during finals week =(

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 15, 2009 12:01 AM EST up reply actions  

ha ha ha ha

if you don’t have a life, WTF do i have?

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 15, 2009 12:11 AM EST up reply actions  

so still nothing then

awesome

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 15, 2009 12:21 AM EST up reply actions  

I feel like you post a lot too.

Future Redbirds - tracking Cardinal prospects for Cardinal Nation

by azruavatar on Dec 15, 2009 8:03 AM EST up reply actions  

BUt...

…maple syrup bacon!
;=8)

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Dec 14, 2009 11:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I hate bacon.

And then you add nasty-too-sweet maple syrup to it. Gross.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Dec 14, 2009 11:47 PM EST up reply actions  

But...but....

…bacon!

:=8o

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Dec 14, 2009 11:48 PM EST up reply actions  

she's a lost cause moocow

she even hates BBQ

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 15, 2009 12:12 AM EST up reply actions  

He should be happy...

I only eat chicken, turkey, and fish.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Dec 15, 2009 12:12 AM EST up reply actions  

what do you have against pigs?

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 15, 2009 12:21 AM EST up reply actions  

They get stuck in my teeth.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Dec 15, 2009 12:22 AM EST up reply actions  

me too, but that doesn't stop me

from enjoying their gloriousness

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 15, 2009 12:24 AM EST up reply actions  

TWSS

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Dec 15, 2009 12:27 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

She don't dig on swine?

"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus

by hazel on Dec 15, 2009 12:22 AM EST up reply actions  

What are the rumblings exactly?

Just a tweet from Strauss asking us to stay up late? Maybe he’s announcing that he’s pregnant.

Testicle-exploding shit storms, to date: T.E.S.S '08, T.E.S.S '09

by dan on Dec 14, 2009 10:38 PM EST reply actions  

Joe Strauss- Colby's baby mama?

"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus

by hazel on Dec 14, 2009 10:39 PM EST up reply actions   3 recs

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Dec 14, 2009 11:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I want to rec this.

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 14, 2009 11:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I would flag that

if I could stop laughing and concentrate enough to do so.

by stlfan on Dec 14, 2009 11:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh man.

This meme is going to be weird.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Dec 14, 2009 11:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Rec'd!

Now with extra feisty!

by spants on Dec 15, 2009 12:11 AM EST up reply actions  

TWJSWICE

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 15, 2009 12:12 AM EST up reply actions  

i think it should be the new fist

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 15, 2009 12:12 AM EST up reply actions  

you were the guy who said he'd have Carp's babies...

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 15, 2009 12:12 AM EST up reply actions  

don't pretend like you wouldn't

i just said what everyone is thinking but too afraid to actually say

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 15, 2009 12:25 AM EST up reply actions  

actually

everyone said it several months before your comment — no, wait, him in bed, not necessarily the knocked up part

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 15, 2009 12:27 AM EST up reply actions  

so i'm a meme stealing fraud?

perfect

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 15, 2009 12:30 AM EST up reply actions  

no, you're just the first guy to admit he wants to be knocked up, luggage included

that’s pioneering, I guess

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 15, 2009 12:31 AM EST up reply actions  

but i don't wanna be a pioneer!

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 15, 2009 12:33 AM EST up reply actions  

That's right.

The Statesmen are better and Sate Champs! Go Webster!

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Dec 15, 2009 12:34 AM EST up reply actions  

i'm not sure i could stomach any graphics in this meme...

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 15, 2009 12:17 AM EST up reply actions  

no, no

vexed

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 15, 2009 12:20 AM EST up reply actions  

yes, DJ Vex is the photoshop wizard

i’m just good at finding pic, not making them. and i wouldn’t really call what i do “good”, actually i don’t know what to call it

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 15, 2009 12:27 AM EST up reply actions  

TWSS

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Dec 15, 2009 12:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah but...

I would rather not start every thread off with Strauss/Colby fanfiction. Nasty image.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Dec 15, 2009 12:18 AM EST up reply actions  

we may have to rethink Colby's nicknames

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 15, 2009 12:19 AM EST up reply actions  

my sources say that Holliday has fired Boras, and hired Strauss as his new agent

the midnight story we are all waiting for will be his resignation from the P-D

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Dec 14, 2009 10:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Would this be because

it’s a smart business decision? Or just to get Mo and Albert to talk to him?

Please consider any Hot Stove talk in the above comment is spoken under the assumption that the Cardinals are not signing Matt Holliday.

by fourstick on Dec 14, 2009 10:41 PM EST up reply actions  

HAVE THEY????

or is that just what they want us to think?

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Dec 14, 2009 10:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Jose, Jack & Jim have gotten the best of us before matty, it's nothing to be ashamed of

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 14, 2009 11:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Here's what worries me, Re: Holliday

If this deal goes down, don’t the Mets kinda see themselves in an arms race in the NL East? And don’t they have huge holes at their corner outfield positions? Don’t the Angels kinda feel the same way if Lee ends up in Seattle?

I can see the Pond Scum being much more interested in Holliday if the Phillies just acquire Halladay long term, and I’m not sure they were in on Holliday before this deal was rumored. Now I wonder if they aren’t in on it.

Seems like the Yankees and Red Sox are probably out of the running for Holliday, and now the Angels and Mets would be even more in the running, assuming that Lee ends up in Seattle.

Please consider any Hot Stove talk in the above comment is spoken under the assumption that the Cardinals are not signing Matt Holliday.

by fourstick on Dec 14, 2009 10:40 PM EST reply actions  

angels maybe

mets are dumb if they think they can compete with the ’09 phillies plus polance plus halladay

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Dec 14, 2009 10:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Mets have a lot of holes

Especially starting pitching but they seem stupid enough to blow all their money on just one guy.

by FlimtotheFlam on Dec 14, 2009 10:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly..

They seem like they would try to sign Damon to save a little money to spend on other desperate needs. However, Boras will use his mastered level manipulative skills to talk him into going to New York and talk them into buying him.

The Angles seem more desperate for starters. They just lost Lackey for sure and are rumored to be in on Derek Lowe (but that’s just an assumption by mlbtr) and I hope that is right.

Even if the Cards don’t get Holliday, they should have a good shot at signing Bay or even Damon.

There are three things in my life which I really love: God, my family, and baseball. The only problem - once baseball season starts, I change the order around a bit. ~Al Gallagher, 1971

by wizardofozzie on Dec 14, 2009 11:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't see Omar Minaya

as the “throw in the towel” type.

Please consider any Hot Stove talk in the above comment is spoken under the assumption that the Cardinals are not signing Matt Holliday.

by fourstick on Dec 15, 2009 8:40 AM EST up reply actions  

ha
I expect the first comment on that article to be a “first” comment from a VEB moniker.

it’s awn

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Dec 14, 2009 10:40 PM EST reply actions  

I don't get this trade
As the deal stands now, M’s prospects would only be going to Philadelphia. However, no Seattle prospects will be headed to Toronto, sources tell Todd Zolecki of MLB.com

So Phillies are essentially trading for Halladay and trading for Lee as separate transactions. Why not just keep Lee. Lee plus Halladay would be the best 1-2 in baseball.

by FlimtotheFlam on Dec 14, 2009 10:43 PM EST reply actions  

Because...

the Phillies get Halladay, who is better than Cliff Lee.

They also get some good prospects in return, who are as good or better than the ones they gave up to get Lee.

Personally, I think Cliff Lee’s left-handedness makes him pretty special. Left-handed aces are very coveted. Granted Halladay has more consistent numbers than Lee, but this seems like an awful lot of moving and shaking to get a pitcher (Doc) who is a little better than what they are getting rid of (Cliff).

by Ghostrider520 on Dec 14, 2009 10:51 PM EST up reply actions  

i'll take Cole every day of the week

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 14, 2009 11:21 PM EST up reply actions  

keep fightin the good fight moocow

and puck the fillies fans. those battery chuckin, lazer pointing douchebags wouldn’t know what a heart was if theirs was ripped from their chest & shoved down their cheesesteaked filled mouths

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 14, 2009 11:27 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Don't you get like 140 characters for a "tweet"

would it really kill this doofus to tell us whom the news concerns

by mattyp on Dec 14, 2009 10:44 PM EST reply actions  

Guys, he's saying the news isn't "the bomb"

He did say “wazzzzaaaaaaa” though

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Dec 14, 2009 10:45 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

is that the same as

da bomb?

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Dec 14, 2009 10:47 PM EST up reply actions  

here's my guess

he’s going to have an article up about how the cameron signing helps the cards in their negotiations

or something that we similarly already know

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Dec 14, 2009 10:47 PM EST reply actions  

wait, there's really a new article?

i thought this was a joke?

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 14, 2009 11:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe We Reacquired

Chris Lambert!
;=8)

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Dec 14, 2009 11:22 PM EST up reply actions  

nope

real “news” tweet says “movement on the holliday front”

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Dec 14, 2009 11:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I have joined

twitter mania. . . @sarnold4

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Dec 14, 2009 10:51 PM EST reply actions  

following strauss is like watching a car accident

you know you should look away, but its so disgusting its intriiiiiguiiiing.

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Dec 14, 2009 10:58 PM EST reply actions  

i'm going to smack a biatch if he's is f'ing around again

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 14, 2009 11:23 PM EST up reply actions  

tweets

Strauss is breaking news at midnight again tonight per his tweets

by ubeddie on Dec 14, 2009 11:01 PM EST up reply actions  

BIG NEWS FROM JOE STRAUSS

tune into the pd at midnight

which means he is going to tell us some anecdote pr soemthing we already know

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Dec 14, 2009 11:02 PM EST up reply actions  

WWL

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 15, 2009 12:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Strauss ranks the news

as a 7 on the 1-10 Cardinals Fan happiness scale. Also, why did he need to use three tweets to say one item.

by ubeddie on Dec 14, 2009 11:01 PM EST reply actions  

I don't know, but he's great!

(Let’s make Strauss popular so he leaves Saint Louis.)

What a scoop, Joe! You’ve truly done it again!

by Mister Eff on Dec 14, 2009 11:04 PM EST up reply actions  

wow amazing Joe does it again!!!

truly we are all witnesses of greatness .

I am the Batman

by CodyG on Dec 14, 2009 11:06 PM EST up reply actions  

wait, is 10 the best or is 1 the best?

damn you strauss! damn you!

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Dec 14, 2009 11:06 PM EST up reply actions  

so this means we got Holliday

but we overpaid a shitload.

OR we got a sweet deal for Damon.

OR Joe reports that talks between the Cardinals and Boras are “encouraging.”

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Dec 14, 2009 11:08 PM EST up reply actions  

there's a sentence i'd never thought i'd read here

a sweet deal for Damon. unless he’s playing for free, a deal with him would never been sweet

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 14, 2009 11:25 PM EST up reply actions  

that feels dirty

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 14, 2009 11:29 PM EST up reply actions  

The deal would be sweet

if he brings back the caveman look.

"The Cards lead this game tied 1-1." -Mike Shannon

by ducttape16 on Dec 15, 2009 1:34 AM EST up reply actions  

This week on: Unfrozen Caveman Outfielder!

Mr. Mozeliak, Tony, Mark, Jose, Albert… I am just a simple caveman. Your modern stadium with its clean hallways and restrooms confuses me. I wonder if your “advanced statistics” are some kind of magic that your shaman produce to keep evil spirits away from my bat. I don’t know exactly what the “Midwest” is since I have lived most of my life in a cave avoiding sabertooth tigers and hunting the great mastodon. But I do know this; I will provide good on base percentage, a decent amount of steals, and adequately below average defense in left field for this baseball team should you fail to sign a marquee left fielder whose name rhymes with Hatt Molliday!

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Dec 15, 2009 10:21 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

oh man. Hartman

win

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 15, 2009 10:22 AM EST up reply actions  

I know, right?

That was a great era for SNL. He was so talented… I was crushed when he died. When Farley died I was sad, but when Hartman died it was devastating. One of my favorite performers.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Dec 15, 2009 10:23 AM EST up reply actions  

I was referring to Matt Damon

so I could think of some sweet ass deals. one that I would personally be involved in. and i would stay up until midnight for that.

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Dec 15, 2009 1:54 AM EST up reply actions  

sweet

ass deals?

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Dec 15, 2009 1:55 AM EST up reply actions  

hyphen fail

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Dec 15, 2009 1:56 AM EST up reply actions  

i promise

i genuinely considered the hyphen. i did. and i ruled it out for reasons i’m not completely sure of. while i recognized that a hyphen would have been appropriate, i wanted to keep it somewhat more parallel to your post

i don’t know what i am saying

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Dec 15, 2009 2:02 AM EST up reply actions  

you missed a comma

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 15, 2009 2:03 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

ah but see

the omission of the hyphen subtly changes the meaning of word(s). the meaning of the overall post is not affected by

wait, where am i missing a comma?

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Dec 15, 2009 2:06 AM EST up reply actions  

and at least i'm not a nazi

i am weird about punctuation and capitalization. gots mah own way of doin’ it, i guess

i’m also a terrible typer and sometimes don’t care

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Dec 15, 2009 2:07 AM EST up reply actions  

(it's, a meme)

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 15, 2009 2:08 AM EST up reply actions  

oh that makes sense

memes are hard to keep up with/keep track of

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Dec 15, 2009 2:09 AM EST up reply actions  

I do

I totally know what you’re saying and I commend you.

I will take sweet Matt Damon ass deals any day.

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Dec 15, 2009 2:03 AM EST up reply actions  

did you see him in entourage this past summer?

i don’t see how any woman could be into him after that

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 15, 2009 2:05 AM EST up reply actions  

no, i've never seen entourage.

but you know, he’s just playing a part. i can’t hold that against him.

but what’s the deal with this entourage thing? did he look bad? was he a dick?

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Dec 15, 2009 2:07 AM EST up reply actions  

he was a big time douche

i know it was an act, but 6ly, he didn’t have to act too hard to pull it off.

and of course i say this out of nothing but pure hated & jealously

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 15, 2009 2:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Does anyone else get mad when they fill out a survey and 1 is "best" and 10 is "worst"?

Just doesn’t seem right

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Dec 14, 2009 11:27 PM EST up reply actions  

All the time.

I get so confused. I end crossing things out all the time because I forget.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Dec 14, 2009 11:31 PM EST up reply actions  

who still takes surveys? i haven't even seen one this century

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 14, 2009 11:33 PM EST up reply actions  

When I used to work at Target they had us fill them out all the time.

The goal was apparently to make target seem like a caring employer. Funny thing was though they still sucked harder than Wal Mart. From a place to work perspective.

by mob16151 on Dec 14, 2009 11:54 PM EST up reply actions  

that's weird, the people i know at target love it

and the people i know at wally’s world hate it

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 15, 2009 12:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Maybe it was just the Target I was at.

But it sucked ass. Rampant favoritism and discrimination. It was just horrible. I ended up having a freak out session on my shift supervisors.

by mob16151 on Dec 15, 2009 1:01 AM EST up reply actions  

retweeted

a wild credibility has emerged!

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Dec 14, 2009 11:05 PM EST reply actions  

I'm Shaking With Anticipation....

…and its turning my milk into butter.
:=8P

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Dec 14, 2009 11:20 PM EST up reply actions  

And Buttermilk...

…is only good for pancakes. Oh, and biscuits. and frying catfish

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Dec 14, 2009 11:30 PM EST up reply actions  

stop making me hungry man

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 14, 2009 11:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I Know....

…I cud stay up all night at a 24 hr Denny and eat plate after plate of banana pancakes…

;=8)

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Dec 14, 2009 11:35 PM EST up reply actions  

He Looks Kind of...

…like turkey bacon, u know, the kind without fat. Bacon without fat is just no fun…

;=8)

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Dec 14, 2009 11:38 PM EST up reply actions  

i prefer Ihops chocolate chip pancakes myself, but i'm weird like that

it was actually the biscuits that peaked my hunger. i love a good buttery biscuit

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 14, 2009 11:38 PM EST up reply actions  

i don't think you're really prepared for what i'm going to ask for

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 15, 2009 12:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Nothing Official

His replies imply there is no signing

@JoeStrauss Come on you can tell me. Did he Johnhancock it?
@StLnNYC No.

Unless, of course, OP meant Josh Hancock and then *JOKE TRUNCATED*

@joestrauss any news? You’ve got me excited about a possible signing!
@Skitzzo Nothing done. Just relaying the process. More to folo.

So could be good news but not what we want.

by PeterStork670 on Dec 14, 2009 11:25 PM EST reply actions  

I'm guessing

That since the market is drying up, the Cards have taken their offer off the table and lowered it

defy, cards, defy. hey logic --- you suck.

by effin fisk on Dec 14, 2009 11:27 PM EST up reply actions  

But...

He did imply it was good news. Just not the ultimate good.

by PeterStork670 on Dec 14, 2009 11:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe We've Changed...

…from Cadinals to the Unicorns?

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Dec 14, 2009 11:32 PM EST up reply actions  

your wish, is my command

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 14, 2009 11:35 PM EST up reply actions  

My Guardian Angel...

…would have a bacon halo…
;=8)

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Dec 14, 2009 11:36 PM EST up reply actions  

i have a pic of mine, but i'm not allowed to post it

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 14, 2009 11:38 PM EST up reply actions  

more like anti sluttly angel smoking a dart & holding a bottle of Jack cowspiracy

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 14, 2009 11:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Folo?

Weirdo.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Dec 14, 2009 11:32 PM EST up reply actions  

should be start an office pool

it is?

Holliday

Wang

Capps

K Johnson

Glaus

by nybirdfan on Dec 14, 2009 11:27 PM EST reply actions  

Holliday

But I’m a sucker.

(Insert Your Own Joke)

by AWolfAtTheDoor on Dec 14, 2009 11:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Ankiel

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Dec 14, 2009 11:29 PM EST up reply actions  

flagged

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Dec 15, 2009 9:26 AM EST up reply actions  

looking through the VEB followers on twitter

asst gm john abbamondi follows the VEB feed

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Dec 14, 2009 11:28 PM EST reply actions  

what's the VEB twitter feed?

And who runs it?

defy, cards, defy. hey logic --- you suck.

by effin fisk on Dec 14, 2009 11:29 PM EST up reply actions  

gdm

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Dec 14, 2009 11:30 PM EST up reply actions  

damnit JD that was a secret!

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 14, 2009 11:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Nope.

There’s no way I could ever possibly hope to get anything done in such a limited number of characters.

Here comes the funcooker!

by the red baron on Dec 15, 2009 7:52 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

@thebirdos

one of the main posters

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Dec 14, 2009 11:32 PM EST up reply actions  

It's a joint VEB thread

tom, Dan, RB, AZ, I assume chuck, and I have access to it.

by vivaelpujols on Dec 14, 2009 11:32 PM EST up reply actions  

theoretically I run it

but practically I have nothing interesting to say, so it’s an RSS feed.

by DanUpBaby on Dec 15, 2009 4:23 AM EST up reply actions  

hey now

you tweet something about once every other week. usually it’s interesting.

Future Redbirds - tracking Cardinal prospects for Cardinal Nation

by azruavatar on Dec 15, 2009 8:07 AM EST up reply actions  

he's the one in the elf hat, if you're keeping track

HI GUYS IN THE TRUCK

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 14, 2009 11:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Midnight, eh?

Advantage: West Coast

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 14, 2009 11:44 PM EST reply actions  

haha.

stupid bastards. warm weather and advantage…

by stlfan on Dec 14, 2009 11:45 PM EST up reply actions  

You guys must be getting sleepy about now...

Oh, it’s only 9:00 PM here?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 14, 2009 11:58 PM EST up reply actions  

8 o'clock here, mofo

advantage, AK, again. Where we never have to wait to wake up for a box score.

Ahahahahahahahahahaha

by siddfynch on Dec 15, 2009 12:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, but

Has Miley Cyrus written a song containing the name of your airport?

Advantage LA

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 15, 2009 12:03 AM EST up reply actions  

My message may have been written with some snark

Mmmm… Snark…

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 15, 2009 12:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Hey man

I’m only 20. That’s well within the legally approved (Age*.5) + 7 rule

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 15, 2009 12:13 AM EST up reply actions  

That's No 7,

…that’s a 4, tops.

:=8P

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Dec 14, 2009 11:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed, MooCow

What does he consider a handjob, a 74?

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Dec 15, 2009 12:14 AM EST up reply actions  

insight:

8 or more years…at least $16M a year…possible.

that’s be $128M. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

by stlfan on Dec 14, 2009 11:47 PM EST up reply actions  

wtf

I don’t even really want Pujols for eight more years ::ducks::

by mattyp on Dec 14, 2009 11:55 PM EST up reply actions  

...

There are three things in my life which I really love: God, my family, and baseball. The only problem - once baseball season starts, I change the order around a bit. ~Al Gallagher, 1971

by wizardofozzie on Dec 14, 2009 11:58 PM EST up reply actions  

just revoke his citizenship at Albertofstan

nothing to see here

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 15, 2009 12:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Done and done

Since I’m not really sure who’s running Albertofstan I’ll fill that post on a temporary basis until something better can be figured out. Can’t have creeps like this running amok in our happy corner of the world.

"The Cards lead this game tied 1-1." -Mike Shannon

by ducttape16 on Dec 15, 2009 1:42 AM EST up reply actions  

i was going to be pres, but then i wasn't, so i'm not

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 15, 2009 1:44 AM EST up reply actions  

hehe

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Dec 14, 2009 11:50 PM EST up reply actions  

can't rec you there

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 15, 2009 12:02 AM EST up reply actions  

meant to say

so i’m reccing here

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 15, 2009 12:06 AM EST up reply actions  

The more I think about it

the more I like the opt-out scenario, especially if it’s after the first four years. Here’s my line of thinking anyway:

  1. It’s kinda like having a mini-contract year in the middle of the contract.
  2. It keeps the AAV the same for the first four years as the last four, and if he plays really well then we’ll get him cheaper for the first four seasons.
  3. If we’re giving him 8 years anyway, then we’re really only concerned about his value in the last four years. Why not let him play the market at that point and get us off the hook for the last four years of the contract?
  4. FWIW, if it’s an 8 year contract, I would actually be ok with having a series of one year opt-outs after the fourth full season of the deal. Call me crazy, but I’d rather have that than a guaranteed 8 years where he can’t get out if he wants out. It’s not like he’s not going to have a fucking no-trade clause anyway — so we’re not going to be able to deal him for more than spare parts.

Please consider any Hot Stove talk in the above comment is spoken under the assumption that the Cardinals are not signing Matt Holliday.

by fourstick on Dec 15, 2009 9:45 AM EST up reply actions  

most important line from the article

“those familiar with the talks believe it possible that Holliday could reach a verdict before Christmas.”

Whatever is going to happen, at least it will be over.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Dec 15, 2009 12:28 AM EST up reply actions  

female TWSS'

are always the best

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Dec 15, 2009 12:31 AM EST up reply actions  

For some reason this made me laugh more than most TWSS's

Brava!

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Dec 15, 2009 10:24 AM EST up reply actions  

8/128?

errr

could be worse, but wow that’s a lot of years

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Dec 15, 2009 12:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Could it? Could it really?!

Offseason Rumors : Me :: Unicorn Blood : Voldemort

by Cardinals645 on Dec 15, 2009 2:56 AM EST up reply actions  

We could have gone DiPietro on him...

If you don’t get the hockey reference look it up.

"The Cards lead this game tied 1-1." -Mike Shannon

by ducttape16 on Dec 15, 2009 2:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Just saying it could be worse...

I saw a challenge and I took it…

"The Cards lead this game tied 1-1." -Mike Shannon

by ducttape16 on Dec 15, 2009 3:01 AM EST up reply actions  

15 years, 67.5 mil?

I’d do that in a heartbeat :)

by outraged on Dec 15, 2009 5:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Wow this place is happening tonight

You would think this was a game thread or something :) So are we about to sign Holliday or something?

Boy a frosty cold Budweiser would be great about now"…long pause…then an "aahhh". --Mike Shannon

by KYCards on Dec 14, 2009 11:50 PM EST reply actions  

No, Something about Trading Colby for Tons of Bacon...

…but ClemsonGirl nixed the deal

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Dec 14, 2009 11:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe the news is that Vince Coleman will be the new TV guy on FSMW?!?

Boy a frosty cold Budweiser would be great about now"…long pause…then an "aahhh". --Mike Shannon

by KYCards on Dec 14, 2009 11:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Woohoo!

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Dec 14, 2009 11:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Best Night EVAR!

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 15, 2009 12:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Give me a job!

Vince Coleman and Goold. That would be sweet. You know Dan and Al, it really would.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Dec 15, 2009 10:25 AM EST up reply actions  

The baseball world is exploding.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Dec 14, 2009 11:53 PM EST up reply actions  

It's been a Blockbuster day for sure

Boy a frosty cold Budweiser would be great about now"…long pause…then an "aahhh". --Mike Shannon

by KYCards on Dec 14, 2009 11:53 PM EST up reply actions  

goold intimates that the article is about penny
@JoeStrauss I’m waiting to see if that Penny story is going to run. It’s like staying up for Santa Claus. Can barely contain my excitement.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on Dec 14, 2009 11:56 PM EST reply actions  

Penny threw a bullpen for the team and hit 130

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Dec 14, 2009 11:58 PM EST up reply actions  

sweet!

wait 130 what? pieces of bacon?

by stlfan on Dec 14, 2009 11:58 PM EST up reply actions  

kilometers per hour

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 15, 2009 12:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Penny has been spotted eating at Golden Corral

He’s on his 5th plate!!!!! BIG NEWS COMING IN!!!

Boy a frosty cold Budweiser would be great about now"…long pause…then an "aahhh". --Mike Shannon

by KYCards on Dec 14, 2009 11:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Didn't We Learn from Bob Horner?

Keep them away from buffets!
:=8/

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Dec 15, 2009 12:00 AM EST up reply actions  

He got injured pushing an old lady out of the way

to get the last chicken leg

Boy a frosty cold Budweiser would be great about now"…long pause…then an "aahhh". --Mike Shannon

by KYCards on Dec 15, 2009 12:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Whoops sources say he pushed Bernie M. out of the way

it was a hell of a fight.

Boy a frosty cold Budweiser would be great about now"…long pause…then an "aahhh". --Mike Shannon

by KYCards on Dec 15, 2009 12:03 AM EST up reply actions  

Shit hit the fan...

Ray King happened to be sitting in a booth nearby.

by cardfan124 on Dec 15, 2009 12:06 AM EST up reply actions  

talking on his 9 cell phones

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 15, 2009 12:16 AM EST up reply actions  

When Bob Horner Goes to the Beach...

…people pour water on him and try to roll him back into the ocean…
;=8)

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Dec 15, 2009 12:04 AM EST up reply actions  

goold

said something in his blog today IIRC about an article about penny. Seems like the two are unrelated and Strauss was pimping his Holliday article.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Dec 15, 2009 12:01 AM EST up reply actions  

128M what?

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on Dec 14, 2009 11:59 PM EST up reply actions  

That doesn't seem that bad especially if it's frontloaded

10: 18 | 11: 18 | 12: 18 | 13: 16 |14: 16 |15: 14 | 16: 14 | 17: 14

(Insert Your Own Joke)

by AWolfAtTheDoor on Dec 15, 2009 12:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Rec

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Dec 15, 2009 12:08 AM EST up reply actions  

make it green

"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus

by hazel on Dec 15, 2009 12:09 AM EST up reply actions  

aaaaannnndd green

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 15, 2009 12:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Those of us who have kids already have lots of explaining to do.

Or maybe our spouses do, depending on the situation.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Dec 15, 2009 10:26 AM EST up reply actions  

aaannnd green!

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Dec 15, 2009 6:43 PM EST up reply actions  

aaannnd green!

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Dec 15, 2009 6:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Seriously though in 2017 do you not think that Holliday would be worth a

1yr/14m contract? I’m not saying he’s a guarantee to outperform the 14 million in 2017, but I at least think that a team would consider him for this. At the right price 8 years is do able. I would hope the Cardinals would leap at a chance to sign him to the contract I posted up there.

(Insert Your Own Joke)

by AWolfAtTheDoor on Dec 15, 2009 12:10 AM EST up reply actions  

With inflation the way it is, $14 million could be a bargain in 2017

The league min. will probably be $1 million anyway.

Also in 2017, Ballpark Village will be finished.

Offseason Rumors : Me :: Unicorn Blood : Voldemort

by Cardinals645 on Dec 15, 2009 3:03 AM EST up reply actions  

I think we just found

the negative side of residing in Albertofstan. Ok maybe not, but sounded good at the time.

"The Cards lead this game tied 1-1." -Mike Shannon

by ducttape16 on Dec 15, 2009 3:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Technically

Inflation currently is crazy low, They’re extremely worried about deflation and for good reason. But yeah, so worried in fact that They seem to be willing to swallow huge inflation in the future to make sure to stave off deflation, which is hard to argue with really.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Dec 15, 2009 3:08 AM EST up reply actions  

FYP
Also in 2017, Ballpark Village will be finished a figment of our imagination, a "remember when they were going to build something cool on that dirt lot where it says “Cubs Suck” in tumbleweed" as it were.

Yes, that seems more likely

Please consider any Hot Stove talk in the above comment is spoken under the assumption that the Cardinals are not signing Matt Holliday.

by fourstick on Dec 15, 2009 9:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Back to the Future Part II was wrong about one thing

The Cubs will never win the World Series by 2015. How ludicrous.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Dec 15, 2009 10:27 AM EST up reply actions  

that's what I was thinking too...

hoverboards, bah. hovercars!

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 15, 2009 10:42 AM EST up reply actions  

I was thinking more:

10: 21| 11: 19 | 12: 17 | 13: 17 |14: 15 |15: 15 | 16: 13 | 17: 11

by stlfan on Dec 15, 2009 8:50 AM EST up reply actions  

If its a story about Penny

Strauss better watch his back. Thats all im saying.

by mob16151 on Dec 14, 2009 11:58 PM EST reply actions  

Or the mob will come get him.

Sorry but your name and that comment, perfect.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Dec 15, 2009 12:00 AM EST up reply actions  

he was referencing

the above article. The tweet was something to the effect of “good news re: holliday”

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Dec 15, 2009 12:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Penny inks extension.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ" >9/275

"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus

by hazel on Dec 15, 2009 12:06 AM EST up reply actions  

FLAGGED!!!!!!

not cool jackass

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Dec 15, 2009 12:10 AM EST up reply actions  

No really, I flagged it

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Dec 15, 2009 12:11 AM EST up reply actions  

so did i

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Dec 15, 2009 12:12 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm not allowed to click it.

What’s going on?

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Dec 15, 2009 12:12 AM EST up reply actions  

it makes your browser

jump all over your screen where you cant click on it

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Dec 15, 2009 12:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh.

I think he’s done that to me multiple times before.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Dec 15, 2009 12:14 AM EST up reply actions  

After my extensive time lurking here

I to learned not to click his links. Thx ClemsonGirl.

by mob16151 on Dec 15, 2009 12:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Just move your mouse over the link without clicking

And on the bottom of your browser it should show what the actual address is. If you don’t recognize it don’t click on it.

(Insert Your Own Joke)

by AWolfAtTheDoor on Dec 15, 2009 12:18 AM EST up reply actions  

What do you use?

Google Chrome has it, and I’m pretty sure Firefox does too.

(Insert Your Own Joke)

by AWolfAtTheDoor on Dec 15, 2009 12:20 AM EST up reply actions  

White.

I have Safari.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Dec 15, 2009 12:20 AM EST up reply actions  

That said What do you use.

Not what do you see. Which is the question I answered. Sorry.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Dec 15, 2009 12:21 AM EST up reply actions  

TWSS

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 15, 2009 12:16 AM EST up reply actions  

wow wrong link

why isn’t there a option to delete comments
*I flagged it also

I am the Batman

by CodyG on Dec 15, 2009 12:13 AM EST up reply actions  

6ly dude, that's going to get you in trouble one day

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 15, 2009 12:18 AM EST up reply actions  

just trying to help a newbie out

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 15, 2009 12:31 AM EST up reply actions  

you speak english goog too

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 15, 2009 12:34 AM EST up reply actions  

the article is already up

the link is posted above

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Dec 15, 2009 12:03 AM EST up reply actions  

better than last night

someone called it in the beginning of the thread that it was just going to be a little fluff about more negotiating with boras.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Dec 15, 2009 12:08 AM EST up reply actions  

I hope that's not the article...

or I’m going to hate Joe Strauss more than I already do. You shouldn’t build up the filler stories, Joe. You just shouldn’t. He could have said this in a tweet with ease.

“Cards increase offer; 8y/128” Baddabing.

by mynameistyler on Dec 15, 2009 12:08 AM EST up reply actions  

we need new unicorn pics

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 15, 2009 12:03 AM EST reply actions  

no, pegacorns are not the same as unicorns

pegacorns are for unlikely, good things happening

unicorns are when shitty things happen and you need to get over it somehow but it’s not going to happen, not while you’re sitting in your basement

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 15, 2009 12:08 AM EST up reply actions  

^for when

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 15, 2009 12:09 AM EST up reply actions  

this is all i got

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 15, 2009 12:19 AM EST up reply actions  

You could always get this t-shirt

so you’ll always be ready regardless of the circumstances…

"The Cards lead this game tied 1-1." -Mike Shannon

by ducttape16 on Dec 15, 2009 1:49 AM EST up reply actions  

I was gonna make a joke about getting behind that pic

but I wont. Your welcome everybody else on the thread.

by mob16151 on Dec 15, 2009 12:12 AM EST up reply actions  

scroll up

there are better ones and they’re going green

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 15, 2009 12:13 AM EST up reply actions  

she can probably break your face in five places...

just a random thought

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 15, 2009 12:18 AM EST up reply actions  

secret is safe with me

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 15, 2009 12:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Whispered Joe to Colby.

"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus

by hazel on Dec 15, 2009 12:23 AM EST up reply actions  

this is a creepy meme

but it’s a great meme.
and no, it’s not making the glossary. the newbs should experience it first hand.

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 15, 2009 12:24 AM EST up reply actions  

TWSS

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 15, 2009 12:24 AM EST up reply actions  

no it's not!

i had the pic all ready & he dropped it in before i could hit post

jerk

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 15, 2009 12:27 AM EST up reply actions  

it wasn't going to fit in there

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 15, 2009 12:28 AM EST up reply actions  

TWSS

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 15, 2009 12:28 AM EST up reply actions  

gotdamnit i quit

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 15, 2009 12:31 AM EST up reply actions  

oh god we're involved in the halladay trade

we’re getting felix hernandez and michael saunders for colby rasmus

by craig3410 on Dec 15, 2009 12:04 AM EST reply actions  

Um, consider it done.

Where do I sign again?

Please consider any Hot Stove talk in the above comment is spoken under the assumption that the Cardinals are not signing Matt Holliday.

by fourstick on Dec 15, 2009 9:51 AM EST up reply actions  

That article was a 1000 words of nothing much.

I mean literally I feel I learned nothing at all new there. But at least it wasnt about Penny.

by mob16151 on Dec 15, 2009 12:06 AM EST reply actions  

What article?

I haven’t seen a link

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Dec 15, 2009 12:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Wait, nvm

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Dec 15, 2009 12:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Once again

Joe Strauss is a tool. That is all.

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Dec 15, 2009 12:15 AM EST reply actions  

We really are going to end up with 50% of payroll devoted to holliday and albert

I'm like a polygon, I'm edgy.

"OHHHHH!!!!!!! IT TASTES. SO. GOOD!!!!!!!!!!"
-BOOOOOOOOG

by slu on Dec 15, 2009 12:17 AM EST reply actions  

The annual hit is what we're going to have to deal with

The issue is Matt Holliday in 2017 is not likely to be very good.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Dec 15, 2009 12:18 AM EST up reply actions  

2017

Hell, I should be a doctor by then.

"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus

by hazel on Dec 15, 2009 12:19 AM EST up reply actions  

i'll be dead

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 15, 2009 12:20 AM EST up reply actions  

A diet of bacon and bourbon, anyway.

"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus

by hazel on Dec 15, 2009 12:22 AM EST up reply actions  

it'll actually be the brownies that will do me in

oh well

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 15, 2009 12:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Not to mention the blunts, blow, barbituates and brisket.

"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus

by hazel on Dec 15, 2009 12:24 AM EST up reply actions  

i thought that was implied?

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 15, 2009 12:28 AM EST up reply actions  

The killer B's?

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Dec 15, 2009 10:55 AM EST up reply actions  

16 million is about what I figured we'd offer

I didn’t think we’d go 8 years though. That’s a pretty 6 offer. Boras now has something he can run to the Yankees with, I suppose.

16 million would be pretty good on the front end, at least. I hate long term deals, and I really don’t like making that kind of commitment for a corner outfield slot. But if you really want him, but don’t want to overly constrain payroll for a Pujols signing, then I guess that is one way to do it. I wouldn’t be too excited about the 2015-2017 Cards, but we’ll have time to brace for it.

by Merry CRasmus on Dec 15, 2009 12:18 AM EST reply actions  

If we sign Holliday to 8 years $128 million per

There’s no way we’ll be able to keep Waino around (assuming we re-sign Albert). I know you shouldn’t sign pitchers to long-term deals, but he’s my favorite player. I don’t know if I can handle watching him in another uniform.

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Dec 15, 2009 12:20 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm with you on that JD

that would be incredibly hard to watch

by cardfan124 on Dec 15, 2009 12:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, but let's say we're paying Holliday $20 million per year from 2014-2017

Then let’s say we re-sign Albert to an Arod like contract. That’s $30 million per year, meaning we have $50 MILLION TIED UP IN TWO PLAYERS. Unless Waino falls off a cliff, he’ll likely command $10 million+ per year. As much as I’d want us to keep him, it would be financially irresponsible to tie up that kind of money in three years.

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Dec 15, 2009 12:26 AM EST up reply actions  

just hope the Yanks swoop in & save DeWitt & MO from themselves

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 15, 2009 12:29 AM EST up reply actions  

I find myself rooting for this atm.

"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus

by hazel on Dec 15, 2009 12:29 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree

The money could be better spent IMO

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Dec 15, 2009 12:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Cameron + Smoltz + Escobar + Beltre + Gonzolez

For about half of what it would take to get Holliday.

by vivaelpujols on Dec 15, 2009 12:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Cameron + Myers + Johnson + Capps + Wang

"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus

by hazel on Dec 15, 2009 12:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Think about those in the man stew.

"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus

by hazel on Dec 15, 2009 12:34 AM EST up reply actions  

we already try not to

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 15, 2009 12:35 AM EST up reply actions  

speak for yourself

damnit! i did it again!

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 15, 2009 12:37 AM EST up reply actions  

I thought Cameron was close to signing with the Sawx

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Dec 15, 2009 12:34 AM EST up reply actions  

I think he already did, actually.

But this is fantasy rosterbation, so moves aren’t finalized until midnight CST.

"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus

by hazel on Dec 15, 2009 12:35 AM EST up reply actions  

I think if we sign Holliday to a frontloaded contract

And have his most expensive years while Yadi, Waino, Boog, Skip, and Rasmus are cheap with Pujols still being relatively cheap. Then we should be able to lock up the most important players (Waino) to more expensive contracts in 2014.

I still maintain this is a decent Holliday deal. People are freaking out about the years, but still if it’s frontloaded this is a good, but not great deal.

(Insert Your Own Joke)

by AWolfAtTheDoor on Dec 15, 2009 12:26 AM EST up reply actions  

My assumption is that the contract is backloaded

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Dec 15, 2009 12:27 AM EST up reply actions  

I know it's probably going to be, but why should it?

It would make the most sense to be the other way around. I don’t really know of any precedents, but I don’t see why Holliday would be against frontloaded. If he wants to sign in a place to win, and 16M/yr is truly the average he wants, then he should want to fit in the money where it works. I’m guessing that’s not how it works, but it seems too logical to me for it not to be that way.

(Insert Your Own Joke)

by AWolfAtTheDoor on Dec 15, 2009 12:29 AM EST up reply actions  

“To twice slay the slain,
      By dint of the Brain,
(Thus Huxley concludes his review)
      Is but labour in vain,
      Unproductive of gain,
And so I shall bid you ‘Adieu’!”

"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus

by hazel on Dec 15, 2009 12:32 AM EST up reply actions  

If we're making it 16M a year irrelevant of timing

It doesn’t matter what our budget is now and in the future, you would still rather backload it. It’s the basic time value of money and we’ve had this discussion here probably 20 times. You would prefer to pay him 14M in 2010, put 4M in bonds and pay him 18M in 2017 instead of paying him 18M in 2010 and 14M in 2017.

If he’s going to properly value a frontloaded contract with lower nominal dollars than a backloaded contract, then yes. Unfortunately it’s frequently a pissing contest amongst athletes who haven’t had a finance 1000 class to understand NPV.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Dec 15, 2009 12:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Someone went to a fancy school

with 4 numbers for a class…. I’m impressed.

"The Cards lead this game tied 1-1." -Mike Shannon

by ducttape16 on Dec 15, 2009 1:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Don't hold me to this

but I also believe that the debt obligation on the stadium begins to go down in like 2015 from $17M a year to around $10M a year or so.

I don’t remember where I heard this, so that’s why I’m saying don’t hold me to it — I could be totally wrong.

Please consider any Hot Stove talk in the above comment is spoken under the assumption that the Cardinals are not signing Matt Holliday.

by fourstick on Dec 15, 2009 9:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Well since the world is ending in 2012

Look on the brightside. In reality it would only be like 2 seasons.

by mob16151 on Dec 15, 2009 12:19 AM EST reply actions   2 recs

Luckily his peak years come before the apocalypse.

"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus

by hazel on Dec 15, 2009 12:20 AM EST up reply actions  

why is this not a meme yet

all saber discussions should account for apocalypse value

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 15, 2009 12:21 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Always a plus when signing a FA.

The cubs would be a lot better if they recognized that simple rule of negotiating.

by mob16151 on Dec 15, 2009 12:21 AM EST up reply actions  

rec'd

I wish there was emoticons on here.

by mob16151 on Dec 15, 2009 12:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Could we have speeded that up

and just gotten it over with before they made a horrible fucking movie out of it though?

Please consider any Hot Stove talk in the above comment is spoken under the assumption that the Cardinals are not signing Matt Holliday.

by fourstick on Dec 15, 2009 9:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Ring rang a dong for a holiday

Dig it

You might recognize this as the song that Little Superstar dances to. I thought it appropriate.

Testicle-exploding shit storms, to date: T.E.S.S '08, T.E.S.S '09

by dan on Dec 15, 2009 12:19 AM EST reply actions  

updated article on freese

not his first alcohol related offense

Looks like Goold’s Penny article is getting pushed back in favor of these 2

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Dec 15, 2009 12:19 AM EST reply actions  

I'm only half way through this thread

if Strauss was laughing at yesterday’s subthread he must be in tears right now. He should get a bonus for running up site hits.

Future Redbirds - tracking Cardinal prospects for Cardinal Nation

by azruavatar on Dec 15, 2009 8:13 AM EST up reply actions  

I came across this earlier today....

Don’t think it’s been posted, but I may be wrong.

"How many years is the bottom line," Holliday noted last September when discussing the rejected contract. "The offer doesn’t even have to be market value. But half of the years that I could get on the open market, to me, is not in the same ballpark. What about when they won’t give you a no-trade clause," he added, "and the first chance that comes up where they want to trade you, they just trade you?"

* is an Asshat

by RiverRat on Dec 15, 2009 12:21 AM EST reply actions  

Halladay trade clusterphuck - update

This trade is great. Just about everyone but Dave Stieb and Edgar Martinez have been mentioned.

Jayson Stark now guesses it is something like:

Phils get Halladay AND Aumont AND Gillies (nice)
Jays get Saunders, Taylor, D’Arnaud, and one of Happ/Drabek
M’s get Lee, plus Cooperstown puts an M’s cap on Mike Schmidt.

What a great day for the hot stove.

link

by siddfynch on Dec 15, 2009 12:21 AM EST reply actions  

Hope the Phillies coughed up Drabek

This makes them a weaker team in the long-run, IMHO.

by JWO on Dec 15, 2009 12:24 AM EST up reply actions  

If this is the trade it feels to me

like all 3 teams just kind of moved laterally when it came to improving themselves. I mean what was the point here make a trade just to make 1?

by mob16151 on Dec 15, 2009 12:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Well, Seattle gets much better NOW

Philly gets marginally better now, Toronto gets much worse now, gets much better for the future

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 15, 2009 12:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Jason Stark has a take on this

He says that the Phillies get someone who wants to be there, and maybe takes a bit less in terms of a contract, as opposed to Lee, who is only looking for money. For the Phillies, its probably the smart move. And, if the Blue Jays get Drabek, they ultimately win in this deal too.

by JWO on Dec 15, 2009 12:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Possible

That all teams addressed a chief objective:

Toronto – Got something back for Halladay despite being back into a corner (see Santana, Johan). That’s four players with a very good chance at being at least regulars.

Phils – Got a Cy Young caliber pitcher signed for the next 4 years, at market rate, plus a couple of decent prospects

Seattle – got a legit ace that improves makes them competitive NOW, which seems like their objective given their other rumblings this offseason.

by siddfynch on Dec 15, 2009 12:45 AM EST up reply actions  

So did the Phils essentially trade Lee for Aumont and Gillies?

And is that anywhere near worth it? I looked up their stats, but is there some scouting report that would be relevant?

(Insert Your Own Joke)

by AWolfAtTheDoor on Dec 15, 2009 12:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Answer

Gillies is a burner CF with a plus arm and decent on base skills. In their 2009 handbook, BA says he has top of the order potential. Slap hitter, though.

Aumont is just a mountainous guy, but with more potential than accomplishment, but plenty enough of it to be happy about. To me, the Phils did a nice job – they could have either spent more money to extend Lee, or could have locked up Halladay in exchange for two prime prospects while still getting prospects back to offset. I’d rather have Taylor and Drabek tahn Gillies and Aumont, but the latter two at least mitigate the loss if they had to give up Taylor and Drabek to get the deal done.

Lots of creativity in the deal. Pretty cool.

by siddfynch on Dec 15, 2009 12:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Aumont = Chris Perez

Great stuff, with a lot of life on the fastball – like, a lot… but no control and injury issues. Likely a reliever going forward.

by vivaelpujols on Dec 15, 2009 12:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Plus the health issues.

Or, reputed health issues.

"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus

by hazel on Dec 15, 2009 12:53 AM EST up reply actions  

I always think of him like Brandon Morrow

Basically, because it was announced that Aumont would be a reliever like 1 week after the same thing was announced for Morrow because he has diabetes.

Seattle basically lost two stud pitching prospects in the span of a week.

by vivaelpujols on Dec 15, 2009 12:55 AM EST up reply actions  

What the hell is wrong with canadian pitchers?

"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus

by hazel on Dec 15, 2009 12:56 AM EST up reply actions  

That must be it.

"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus

by hazel on Dec 15, 2009 12:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Saunders

Canadian too.

Half the population of Canadia changed addresses tonight.

by siddfynch on Dec 15, 2009 12:59 AM EST up reply actions  

That's a huge win for the Phillies, imo.

They get Halladay, add him for another four years, get Aumont, who could probably close for them in the very near future, and Gillies, who would hit the majors about the time Victorino and Werth get expensive and Ibanez’ contract expires.

You really can’t do much better than that when you’re only giving up a pitcher who doesn’t want to be there, a second year guy who was awfully lucky in his first season, and only one of your top three prospects. Seriously, they could give up about that for just Halladay without getting two other pieces back.

Please consider any Hot Stove talk in the above comment is spoken under the assumption that the Cardinals are not signing Matt Holliday.

by fourstick on Dec 15, 2009 10:02 AM EST up reply actions  

just finished dexter

and holy. fucking. shit.

wow

my jaw is firmly hanging open

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Dec 15, 2009 12:22 AM EST reply actions  

Stop there!

lalalalalalala

Now with extra feisty!

by spants on Dec 15, 2009 12:23 AM EST up reply actions  

It was just like the Sopranos series finale

/just kidding, I don’t watch Dexter

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Dec 15, 2009 12:24 AM EST up reply actions  

jeez guys

i didn’t post anything remotely spoiler like

i basically said “is gud”

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Dec 15, 2009 12:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Holliday is worth 6/100 max

I don’t understand this FO, and I really hope that this is just Joe-shit.

by vivaelpujols on Dec 15, 2009 12:31 AM EST reply actions  

The other question

Do Holliday and Boras turn down 8 years $128 million?

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by jd is legend on Dec 15, 2009 12:35 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm sure the Yankees are reviewing the offer now if they haven't already.

"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus

by hazel on Dec 15, 2009 12:36 AM EST up reply actions  

if he does, then fuck him, frankly. $128m is more than he ought to get, and i would guess he won't get more.

we can do better with $128m.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on Dec 15, 2009 1:00 AM EST up reply actions  

That's exactly what I was thinking

They’d (probably…Yankees notwithstanding) be crazy not to scoop up that deal in a heartbeat

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Dec 15, 2009 1:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Eight years is a long time

The A-Rod deal is the classic example. Imagine giving someone money for TEN years…

by JWO on Dec 15, 2009 12:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Who else...

is using this thread as an excuse not to study for finals

by cardfan124 on Dec 15, 2009 12:31 AM EST reply actions  

forward all unspeaking things to gdm426@yahoo.com

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 15, 2009 12:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Gotta be English ...

nobody else writes “unspeakable other” instead of “other unspeakable”

ceterum censeo, delendo est Joe Strauss

by alberich on Dec 15, 2009 1:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Which one is right, though?

After I posted I decided ‘unspeakable other’ sounded very strange.

by peach concrete on Dec 15, 2009 1:01 AM EST up reply actions  

it's poetry. don't mess with poetry.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on Dec 15, 2009 1:02 AM EST up reply actions  

The way I remember it, albatross was a ship's good luck, 'til some idiot killed it.

Yes, I have read a poem. Try not to faint.

Malcolm Reynolds is the Captain of my heart.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Dec 15, 2009 11:02 AM EST up reply actions  

It *does* sound strange ...

but it’s right, since you’ve already spoken of grading finals and others have spoken of reading the thread.

But not Victorian, or you’d have written “other, unspeakable”

ceterum censeo, delendo est Joe Strauss

by alberich on Dec 15, 2009 1:08 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm done!

I’m in Knoxville right now on my way home. Drove around some of University of Tennessee today and the Smoky Mountains. It was a good day. I love mountains.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Dec 15, 2009 12:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Yup.

Pretty much. And nashville. I like Nashville.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Dec 15, 2009 12:35 AM EST up reply actions  

i've only been there once or twice

it was on one of the many trips to arkansas when i was a kid & we never stayed, we just drove on through. the only thing i remember about it was the skyline & my dad loving all the country music radio stations.

i spent turkey day of 97 in kville though. it was pretty cool. i almost died, but it was still pretty cool

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 15, 2009 12:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Beale Street

Nashville

I was born there

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Dec 15, 2009 12:35 AM EST up reply actions  

I enjoy Beale Street

But at the same time, I realize it’s only Bourbon Street Lite

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Dec 15, 2009 12:37 AM EST up reply actions  

If the Ocoee area is anything like NE Georgia

It’s nowhere close to a drought. Of course, the water might be a little chilly this time of year

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Dec 15, 2009 12:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Rec for you

For correct spelling of Ocoee.

Can’t hold a candle to your NE Georgia’s Chatooga, though.

by siddfynch on Dec 15, 2009 12:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Drought gone.

Hartwell is full again! I looked out my window the other day and saw a blue-grey mass not surrounded by red clay and was like, “What is that? OMG is that Lake Hartwell?” Good times.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Dec 15, 2009 12:41 AM EST up reply actions  

When the drought was at its peak

I would drive over Lake Allatoona north of Atlanta and it didn’t look like a lake, it looked like a desert with puddles in it.

Lake Hartwell is beautiful, btw

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Dec 15, 2009 12:42 AM EST up reply actions  

It is.

Even when it was really empty it was still pretty. But now it’s back to gorgeous.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Dec 15, 2009 12:43 AM EST up reply actions  

I'd be playing flash games and not studying if not for this thread.

"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus

by hazel on Dec 15, 2009 12:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Hey, that's me

Stats final tomorrow!

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 15, 2009 12:35 AM EST up reply actions  

We're doing regression analysis right now

That’s baseball-y

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 15, 2009 12:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Do you have any good primers on statistics in baseball?

I can do a regression analysis showing how well team OPS correlates with runs scored, sure, but that’s a bit too basic. I want to be able to delve a little deeper

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 15, 2009 12:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Take a Regression or Analysis of Variance class

If you’re interested in statistics you’re probably forced to take the pre-req classes and ANOVA especially is basically just a primer on baseball regression stuff.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Dec 15, 2009 12:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Plus if you pay attention they'll teach you R

Which basically lets you do anything with anything.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Dec 15, 2009 12:49 AM EST up reply actions  

How's your neural net working out?

"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus

by hazel on Dec 15, 2009 12:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Hopefully you can just download it onto a big external hard drive.

"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus

by hazel on Dec 15, 2009 12:53 AM EST up reply actions  

hazel

Where the fuck are the Waino .gifs?

by vivaelpujols on Dec 15, 2009 12:57 AM EST up reply actions  

I think someone's at the door...

talk to you later!

"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus

by hazel on Dec 15, 2009 12:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Both

The final’s over ANOVA, single variable regression, and multiple variable regression

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 15, 2009 12:54 AM EST up reply actions  

basic stats over here!

z-scores, standard deviation, and hypothesis testing!

jd is legend for Cardinals' closer 2010!!

by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 15, 2009 12:56 AM EST up reply actions  

wanna take it for me?

i’m too lazy to do the 30 minutes of studying i need to do.

jd is legend for Cardinals' closer 2010!!

by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 15, 2009 12:58 AM EST up reply actions  

latin is better.

jd is legend for Cardinals' closer 2010!!

by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 15, 2009 1:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Mucho gusto, me llamo J.D.-uh

I’m hornier than Ron Jeremy-uh

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Dec 15, 2009 1:06 AM EST up reply actions  

It's boring

It’s just memorization for me.

by vivaelpujols on Dec 15, 2009 1:07 AM EST up reply actions  

if it's vocab

but In high school I took seven years worth of Spanish which consisted of a lot of shit. I hated writing papers, I was never the best at that though.

I am the Batman

by CodyG on Dec 15, 2009 1:09 AM EST up reply actions  

You were in high school for 7 years?

Dear Lord son…

"The Cards lead this game tied 1-1." -Mike Shannon

by ducttape16 on Dec 15, 2009 2:01 AM EST up reply actions  

I was actually surprised how functional my many years of Spanish had made me

Visiting Barcelona and Madrid for a few days each as the only real Spanish speaker in my group forced me to actually try to use what I had learned to talk to people. It worked surprisingly well. Catalan, though, is weird. And people in Spain have some strange accents.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Dec 15, 2009 11:07 AM EST up reply actions  

What do you have to do for it?

Are the questions going to be conceptual, or do you have to solve equations? Do you get to use a computer or calculator?

by vivaelpujols on Dec 15, 2009 12:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Essentially, we'll have to solve for a simple regression equation

And we’ll get an Excel printout of an ANOVA and regression analysis, and tell what it means, i.e. if coefficients are significant, what the F-test in ANOVA tells us, etc.

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 15, 2009 12:58 AM EST up reply actions  

that doesn't sound too hard
coefficients are significant

You’ll get cookie points with your teacher, probably, if you expand on why the >.05 isn’t always a great rule of thumb. Does your school teach you that? I hate when that’s taught.

by vivaelpujols on Dec 15, 2009 1:03 AM EST up reply actions  

No, my professor hasn't touched on that

Care to elaborate for me?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 15, 2009 1:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh, nevermind

don’t wanna get you thinking about other crap befo finals.

by vivaelpujols on Dec 15, 2009 1:10 AM EST up reply actions  

If you're still here

What the hell is multicollinearity and heteroskedadicity?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 15, 2009 1:28 AM EST up reply actions  

multicollinearity is when two or more variables are linked to eachother

which can impart bias in the regression coefficients.

Like, if you were to run a multivariate regression with team runs as your y and singles, doubles, homers, walks, etc. as your x’s, some of those x variables would be related.

Like teams that hit a lot of home runs will probably have fewer steals, and since home runs would have a much greater slope, the value of a steal, expressed in the regression coefficient, would be inherently depressed.

I’m not really sure what the second one is

by vivaelpujols on Dec 15, 2009 1:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Varying variances!

Heteroskedacity is when the variables of a regression have different variances and/or distribution types which means that the variance of the whole regression changes significantly depending on the observation . The regression eventually loses effectiveness to the point of becoming a WAG, (usually because each additional observation increases the error term), and overall variance is underestimated. A simple regression always assumes that the variances are equal, but if you don’t check it you can end up with something like this:

I haven’t done it in 2 years, but R can actually correct for this, which I don’t have a friggin clue how it does it, but it makes things look pretty at the very least. Time series are bitches.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Dec 15, 2009 1:59 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Ah, I remember this now

It’s where the residual plot isn’t random, and indeed, looks like that picture

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 15, 2009 2:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Bingo

The simplest test is that you can create a statistically significant simple regression based on the absolute value of the residuals.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Dec 15, 2009 2:03 AM EST up reply actions  

The residual plot being non-random isn't a bad thing

Cause usually it means the form of the regression isn’t linear. Hetero-whatever, I guess, means the residuals increase across the regression.

by vivaelpujols on Dec 15, 2009 2:03 AM EST up reply actions  

math is sexy?

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 15, 2009 2:05 AM EST up reply actions  

of course

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 15, 2009 2:06 AM EST up reply actions  

not really sexy

but it is kinda fun

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Dec 15, 2009 2:09 AM EST up reply actions  

TWSS?

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Dec 15, 2009 11:07 AM EST up reply actions  

me too omg

jd is legend for Cardinals' closer 2010!!

by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 15, 2009 12:48 AM EST up reply actions  

i'm here for the (redacted)

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 15, 2009 12:36 AM EST up reply actions  

i'm using it as an excuse

to gloat about the fact that i was done with finals last wednesday

or am now at least

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Dec 15, 2009 12:44 AM EST up reply actions  

I did too.

It’s all good.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Dec 15, 2009 12:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Southern schools FTW!!

Suck it Mizzou!

(Insert Your Own Joke)

by AWolfAtTheDoor on Dec 15, 2009 12:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Tennessee looks like they still have finals.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Dec 15, 2009 12:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah I know.

But we get out the first Friday of May. Boom.

And if we started about one week earlier we could be out at Thanksgiving. That’s what we should do.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Dec 15, 2009 12:56 AM EST up reply actions  

first friday of may FTW!

jd is legend for Cardinals' closer 2010!!

by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 15, 2009 12:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Is that when you get out too?

They must cram stuff in that semester.

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by ClemsonGirl on Dec 15, 2009 1:00 AM EST up reply actions  

naw

we have a three week winter break :(

we go back the same time you do i’m supposing. get a week off midterm, and then get a monday off for easter. that’s it.

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by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 15, 2009 1:03 AM EST up reply actions  

We don't get Easter.

We get MLK day and Spring Break which may fall over easter but I doubt it.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Dec 15, 2009 1:04 AM EST up reply actions  

oh, duh. i almost forget about MLK day because it's the first week

yeah, easter is just a three day weekend for us (getting the monday). it’s nice to get to go home that weekend and destress before the end of semester stuff gets into gear.

jd is legend for Cardinals' closer 2010!!

by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 15, 2009 1:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Easter wouldn't make too much sense a lot of years for us

because we’d go home and then have like 2 weeks left. It would be like Thanksgiving all over!

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Dec 15, 2009 1:08 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah

we had four left after last year’s easter and five after this year’s easter.

jd is legend for Cardinals' closer 2010!!

by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 15, 2009 1:08 AM EST up reply actions  

West coast schools ftw?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 15, 2009 12:59 AM EST up reply actions  

I'll have zero finals next semester

So I’m done graduated May 7th.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Dec 15, 2009 12:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Actually I looked at a calendar.

We get out April 30th I’m pretty sure.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Dec 15, 2009 1:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Alright fine, gots to one-up

I’m taking 12 hours, 9 of which are complete jokes. I’m going to have to go to class 3 hours a week.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Dec 15, 2009 1:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah.

But you’re a senior so you already one. I’ve got fang beat by a lot though.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Dec 15, 2009 1:03 AM EST up reply actions  

won*

What did I just do? I need to go to bed.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Dec 15, 2009 1:03 AM EST up reply actions  

I have 8 am's on Tuesday/Thursday.

And a night class on Tuesday. This semester is going to suck.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Dec 15, 2009 1:05 AM EST up reply actions  

who tf has 8am classes on purpose?

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 15, 2009 1:06 AM EST up reply actions  

I made the mistake of taking one my first semester

It was dropped as I was walking to class the first day.

(Insert Your Own Joke)

by AWolfAtTheDoor on Dec 15, 2009 1:07 AM EST up reply actions  

It was not on purpose.

It was the only way my schedule would work. All of the education classes are on Tuesday and Thursday so you basically have to take 8 am’s lots of times. And when I actually teach I’ll have to wake up at like 6 every morning.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Dec 15, 2009 1:09 AM EST up reply actions  

that's just awful

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 15, 2009 1:11 AM EST up reply actions  

I had an 8am HST class this semester.

And I have an 8:35 PHI class next semester. I prefer getting in early and out by noon, enjoy the best part of the day.

by mynameistyler on Dec 15, 2009 1:11 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah, but you have to be in bed by like 10 or 11

f that. of course i’m a night owl & of the belief that 4:30am is for turning in, not waking up

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 15, 2009 1:13 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm in this boat as well

Ain’t nothin’ going on at 7:00 AM

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 15, 2009 1:14 AM EST up reply actions  

No.

You just don’t sleep. I’ll just become addicted to caffeine. I’m a night owl for sure but I’ll have to wake up early for my job. Luckily I hate sleep so that works.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Dec 15, 2009 1:15 AM EST up reply actions  

+1

jd is legend for Cardinals' closer 2010!!

by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 15, 2009 1:16 AM EST up reply actions  

How can you hate sleep?

It’s like hating food

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 15, 2009 1:17 AM EST up reply actions  

we asked her the same thing about bacon

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 15, 2009 1:17 AM EST up reply actions  

she hates sleep, bacons & BBQ

wow,,,just wow

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 15, 2009 1:21 AM EST up reply actions  

do we try & burn her?

or keep her around?

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 15, 2009 1:24 AM EST up reply actions  

It's boring.

Nothing happens.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Dec 16, 2009 2:00 PM EST up reply actions  

You're just not trying hard enough

And no, I don’t really know what that is supposed to mean. But it’s still true.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Dec 16, 2009 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I hate naps

Night sleep is the bee’s knees

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Dec 15, 2009 1:17 AM EST up reply actions  

no...naps FTW

jd is legend for Cardinals' closer 2010!!

by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 15, 2009 1:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Naps are proof

that God loves us and wants us to be happy.

"The Cards lead this game tied 1-1." -Mike Shannon

by ducttape16 on Dec 15, 2009 2:05 AM EST up reply actions  

I hate naps too.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Dec 16, 2009 2:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Do you like anything?

"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Dec 16, 2009 11:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Shoes.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Dec 16, 2009 11:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Well yes.

But I thought that was implied.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Dec 16, 2009 11:41 PM EST up reply actions  

That was... feisty.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Dec 17, 2009 4:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm glad someone said it.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Dec 17, 2009 9:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Aw, CG.

I was just playing.

Now with extra feisty!

by spants on Dec 18, 2009 12:06 AM EST up reply actions  

With extra feisty.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Dec 19, 2009 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

says who?

jd is legend for Cardinals' closer 2010!!

by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 15, 2009 1:05 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm done in May.

So I get back and get jobs before everyone else. Ha!

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Dec 15, 2009 1:06 AM EST up reply actions  

we just discussed this

i will be home the same day as you.

jd is legend for Cardinals' closer 2010!!

by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 15, 2009 1:06 AM EST up reply actions  

No you won't.

I’m home a week earlier. I didn’t realize May 7 was the First Friday in May this year. We’re done April 30. Don’t worry I’m working at a daycare. There will be jobs left for you.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Dec 15, 2009 1:10 AM EST up reply actions  

april freakin' 30th?

good god.

either way, we are one of the first schools back home. i know i get home before SEMO, mo state, and mizzou.

jd is legend for Cardinals' closer 2010!!

by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 15, 2009 1:12 AM EST up reply actions  

We have Maymester so we have to be done early.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Dec 15, 2009 1:12 AM EST up reply actions  

as do we

“may interim”

not sure how long that lasts though.

jd is legend for Cardinals' closer 2010!!

by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 15, 2009 1:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Well for a sophmore I feel pretty proud.

I have 12 hours of class I have to go to along with a 3 hour class that I can probably get an A or B by only going to the tests and the final.

(Insert Your Own Joke)

by AWolfAtTheDoor on Dec 15, 2009 1:05 AM EST up reply actions  

12?

How are you graduating in four years? I have 17 next semester. I’m going to die.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Dec 15, 2009 1:06 AM EST up reply actions  

15

jd is legend for Cardinals' closer 2010!!

by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 15, 2009 1:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Well I'm taking 15 hours.

I’m poly sci. I had 21 hours done. And I’m lazy. I should still be done before 4 unless I decide to dual major.

(Insert Your Own Joke)

by AWolfAtTheDoor on Dec 15, 2009 1:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh.

Didn’t catch that.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Dec 15, 2009 1:10 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm taking 18

And it’s completely doable. For some reason, here at USC, classes are either 4 credit-hours or 2, so it works out great

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 15, 2009 1:09 AM EST up reply actions  

There were a bunch of people there.

They may be done with their particular Finals or we may have seen the stragglers.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Dec 15, 2009 12:58 AM EST up reply actions  

+4,000

jd is legend for Cardinals' closer 2010!!

by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 15, 2009 12:47 AM EST up reply actions  

welcome to my world

i hope you brought some bourbon, or at least some rum

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 15, 2009 12:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Pujols / Holliday joint signing

Imagine if Mozeliak has them both out there, and shows the faces of the franchise for the next 6-8 years. In one evening, STL spends $250M. THAT would be epic.

by JWO on Dec 15, 2009 12:40 AM EST reply actions  

Oh, hell yeah.

I’d feel much better about our offense, for sure.

Now with extra feisty!

by spants on Dec 15, 2009 12:44 AM EST up reply actions  

I just wish this team had a jose reyes type that steals bases and scores alot.

rasmus? maybe, but it would’ve been sweet if we signed figgins.

I am the Batman

by CodyG on Dec 15, 2009 12:45 AM EST up reply actions  

but that wouldn't be the most exciting deal in baseball.

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 15, 2009 12:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Don't you dare

No one on this team is as exciting as Jose Reyes’ .279 .355 .395 in 147 ABs

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Dec 15, 2009 12:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Could be Boog

Don’t underestimate that crazy little guy.

by JWO on Dec 15, 2009 12:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Boog's actually not little

he’s just skinny

and he and Skip keep standing next to guys who are giant

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 15, 2009 12:49 AM EST up reply actions  

True

Maybe I’m just thinking of his gremlin-like personality.

by JWO on Dec 15, 2009 12:50 AM EST up reply actions  

I wonder how he's doing in Dinger Camp

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 15, 2009 12:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Learning to hit dingers... duh.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Dec 15, 2009 12:52 AM EST up reply actions  

i'm gonna be mad as fuck all

if his at-bat routine changes in any way

i dunno why that would bother me that much, but it would

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 15, 2009 12:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Brendan Ryan, if you are googling your own name

you better listen up

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 15, 2009 12:55 AM EST up reply actions  

This would bother me as well

"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog

"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009

by andi_k on Dec 16, 2009 7:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Mo keeps a paper bag in his pocket

it’s all good

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 15, 2009 12:43 AM EST up reply actions  

that's not a paper bag

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 15, 2009 12:50 AM EST up reply actions  

did you check, personally?

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 15, 2009 12:51 AM EST up reply actions  

i can't rat out my sources

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 15, 2009 12:53 AM EST up reply actions  

This is news

Good news too. The only person saying the payroll is $100 million has been DeWitt. He chooses what it is. Sure, that has to fit into the revenue and expense profile, but do you really think too many people outside of him really know what that is going to be, year by year?

If this deal goes through, and I’ve said all along that it most likely will, we’ll all have Boras to thank. And no, it won’t break the franchise. And no, Pujols isn’t going to go anywhere either. But yes, the Cardinals are a Philliesesque favorite out of the NL for the next several years.

by mwrg on Dec 15, 2009 12:42 AM EST reply actions  

Boras has a plant on every team's webpage

Didn’t you KNOW that? Or perhaps… YOU are the plant!

by JWO on Dec 15, 2009 12:54 AM EST up reply actions  

And your point?

I have no problem with Boras. He’s trying to maximize his clients value, rather than letting his extraordinary talent be taken advantage of by baseball’s ownership network.

That said, I’m not rooting for Boras to absolutely fleece the DeWitt/Mo either. I think the market this year for Holiday is no where near what it was the last 3 years for similar top flight free agents, and all sides know it. The Cardinals and Holiday most likely need one another (provided Boston doesn’t rear it’s head too high).

by mwrg on Dec 15, 2009 12:57 AM EST up reply actions  

i think he's saying 100MM

because if he says the true max that the club can spend, say 120, then he’s expected to spend that every year

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Dec 15, 2009 12:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Then he becomes "DeWallet" again

As soon as payroll “slips” to 115 million?

by Merry CRasmus on Dec 15, 2009 12:51 AM EST up reply actions  

well

he probably won’t have a choice in a couple years

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Dec 15, 2009 1:02 AM EST up reply actions  

OPEN DEWALLET

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Dec 15, 2009 12:53 AM EST up reply actions  

How long until...

the name of this blog is changed to ViveElMeme?

by mynameistyler on Dec 15, 2009 12:42 AM EST reply actions  

I would prefer Meme-a El Birdos

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Dec 15, 2009 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

lol

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Dec 15, 2009 12:47 AM EST up reply actions  

OMG

Now with extra feisty!

by spants on Dec 15, 2009 12:45 AM EST up reply actions  

now he's just doing it on purpose

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 15, 2009 12:51 AM EST up reply actions  

But BCB hasn't been around for 100 years

It’s funnier when you can lurk.

Testicle-exploding shit storms, to date: T.E.S.S '08, T.E.S.S '09

by dan on Dec 15, 2009 12:48 AM EST up reply actions  

have they unloaded milton bradley yet?

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 15, 2009 12:48 AM EST up reply actions  

if we do

not right away

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 15, 2009 12:50 AM EST up reply actions  

i'll take him

not sure where we’ll put him, but i’ll take him

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Dec 15, 2009 12:50 AM EST up reply actions  

don't say it gdm, don't f'ing say it

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 15, 2009 12:51 AM EST up reply actions  

I will...

That’s what she said!

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Dec 15, 2009 12:52 AM EST up reply actions  

oh so innocent my butt

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 15, 2009 12:53 AM EST up reply actions  

you're one who's corrupting her

you’ve only yourself to blame

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 15, 2009 12:54 AM EST up reply actions  

i've done more than my fair share of crap

but this ranks right up there with the worst of them. if i truly am to blame for her fall from grace, there’s a special place in hell with my name on it

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 15, 2009 12:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Don't give yourself so much credit.

Hanging out with almost all boys last year corrupted me. And The Office.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Dec 15, 2009 12:57 AM EST up reply actions  

whew, now i can sleep tonight

after the pillz kick in of course

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 15, 2009 1:02 AM EST up reply actions  

TWSS?

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Dec 15, 2009 12:55 AM EST up reply actions  

But...the loss column!

"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus

by hazel on Dec 15, 2009 12:49 AM EST up reply actions  

man, i loved that meme

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 15, 2009 12:50 AM EST up reply actions  

indeed

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Dec 15, 2009 12:48 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

seems like a lot of people know

but the strauss article is already up

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/stories.nsf/cardinals/story/8BDAA64CC99AD8D98625768D00172D31?OpenDocument

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Dec 15, 2009 12:50 AM EST reply actions  

Dude....

click the reply tab under the comment you are replying to.

Thanks.

* is an Asshat

by RiverRat on Dec 15, 2009 12:51 AM EST up reply actions  

um....hi

i guess we signed juan acevado tonight?

jd is legend for Cardinals' closer 2010!!

by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 15, 2009 12:52 AM EST reply actions  

Mmmmm, guac

Testicle-exploding shit storms, to date: T.E.S.S '08, T.E.S.S '09

by dan on Dec 15, 2009 12:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Don't let the finals get to you and ruin your brain.

It’ll all be over soon.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Dec 15, 2009 12:54 AM EST up reply actions  

man you're strict

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 15, 2009 1:02 AM EST up reply actions  

try being his internet father, it's no walk in the park

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 15, 2009 1:04 AM EST up reply actions  

do you know where he was in February?

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 15, 2009 1:06 AM EST up reply actions  

it depends on who's asking

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 15, 2009 1:07 AM EST up reply actions  

:(

i’m so beat already. biz law and intermediate macro econ were not my friends today.

jd is legend for Cardinals' closer 2010!!

by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 15, 2009 1:03 AM EST up reply actions  

paper due at 9:30 AM

not an option. i’m not finished.

jd is legend for Cardinals' closer 2010!!

by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 15, 2009 1:05 AM EST up reply actions  

i wish his mom did

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 15, 2009 1:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Um

What?

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Dec 15, 2009 1:07 AM EST up reply actions  

do i have to draw you a picture?

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 15, 2009 1:08 AM EST up reply actions  

I just need a minute to digest

Are you referring to fang’s “VEB mom” or his real mom? Either way it’s a little disturbing

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Dec 15, 2009 1:09 AM EST up reply actions  

fake mom of course

i’d never make a real joke like that to people i’ve never met

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 15, 2009 1:10 AM EST up reply actions  

wowwwwwwwwwwwwww

jd is legend for Cardinals' closer 2010!!

by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 15, 2009 1:07 AM EST up reply actions  

i was actually going to take it a little further

but my filter kicked in & i stopped. you’re all welcome

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 15, 2009 1:12 AM EST up reply actions  

thank god.

jd is legend for Cardinals' closer 2010!!

by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 15, 2009 1:13 AM EST up reply actions  

i know right? who knew i had a filter?

dan will still probably kick my ass though. when i’m gone, please remember me. only remember me differently

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 15, 2009 1:16 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah....like 15 minutes of work left on it if i focus

but you guys are more fun.

jd is legend for Cardinals' closer 2010!!

by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 15, 2009 1:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Good night reply fail

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Dec 15, 2009 12:57 AM EST up reply actions  

'e needs an avatar with that in

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 15, 2009 12:58 AM EST up reply actions  

beautiful
We have been to the playoffs a lot this decade, been to 4 NLCS’s, and with your support Matt, we will go another 4.

if only you could help us, matt! we could see the nlcs 4 more times in the next 17 days! won’t you please help us, matt?

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Dec 15, 2009 12:58 AM EST reply actions  

I don't see any pie.

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 15, 2009 12:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Is the P-D waiting until 1200

Because of some sort of news embargo on this?

by JWO on Dec 15, 2009 1:00 AM EST reply actions  

We'll soon find out

As it turns out, the Cardinals are unveiling the new Apple Tablet!

Testicle-exploding shit storms, to date: T.E.S.S '08, T.E.S.S '09

by dan on Dec 15, 2009 1:01 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Heh

New iPhone app that plays “Fire Burning in the Outfield”

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Dec 15, 2009 1:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Rec'd!

Now with extra feisty!

by spants on Dec 15, 2009 1:02 AM EST up reply actions  

guys

it was posted 50 minutes ago

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Dec 15, 2009 1:04 AM EST up reply actions  

it's midnight

we’re at 600+ comments

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 15, 2009 1:00 AM EST reply actions  

that's what i'm talkin bout

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 15, 2009 1:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Are you Joe Strauss?

He’s the only guy I can think of that would want to kill a unicorn.

Please consider any Hot Stove talk in the above comment is spoken under the assumption that the Cardinals are not signing Matt Holliday.

by fourstick on Dec 15, 2009 10:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Yea, but remember....

This is just Strauss bluster….no real news to see here. Now if all 200 of you will just move along….

by mwrg on Dec 15, 2009 1:02 AM EST up reply actions  

fuck no

once you start getting fanfiction, statistics, and That’s what she said all in one thread, this ain’t stopping till everyone passes out.

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 15, 2009 1:03 AM EST up reply actions  

Or until the page cannot carry more comments

And the robot refuses to start an overflow thread.
Then maybe people give up.

by JWO on Dec 15, 2009 1:04 AM EST up reply actions  

a few thousand comments later

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 15, 2009 1:05 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm game

I’d love for Azru to come back tomorrow morning, open up the newspaper, see no news on Holliday, then check this page.

“5K posts! WTF!!!…”

by JWO on Dec 15, 2009 1:07 AM EST up reply actions  

I know

Was being facetious…

by mwrg on Dec 15, 2009 1:04 AM EST up reply actions  

you could just tweet something

to make everyone move along

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 15, 2009 1:05 AM EST up reply actions  

welcome to finals week!

jd is legend for Cardinals' closer 2010!!

by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 15, 2009 1:04 AM EST up reply actions  

+1

I’m tired. Probably heading soon.

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Dec 15, 2009 1:05 AM EST up reply actions  

it's only 1am, it's still prime time baby!

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 15, 2009 1:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Lots of work to do tomorrow!

Deadline this Friday!

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Dec 15, 2009 1:07 AM EST up reply actions  

deadlines schmedlines, it's prime time!

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 15, 2009 1:11 AM EST up reply actions  

same here

just got off work about an hour ago

I have a love/hate relationship with the Cardinals' middle relief corps. | Cards on Cards

by madding on Dec 15, 2009 1:07 AM EST up reply actions  

West Coast REPRESENTIN'

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 15, 2009 1:10 AM EST up reply actions  

EAST COAST

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Dec 15, 2009 1:12 AM EST up reply actions  

RIP Biggie

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 15, 2009 1:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Seems like yesterday we used to rock the show

I laced the track, you locked the flow

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Dec 15, 2009 1:15 AM EST up reply actions  

rhyme master

It’s kinda hard with you not around
Know you in heaven smilin down

I am the Batman

by CodyG on Dec 15, 2009 1:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Biggie, biggie, biggie,

Can’t you see? sometimes your words just hypnotize me.

by peach concrete on Dec 15, 2009 1:19 AM EST up reply actions  

wrong song peachy

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 15, 2009 1:22 AM EST up reply actions  

yes, same guy

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 15, 2009 1:23 AM EST up reply actions  

no

seeing that biggie didn’t sing a song about him being dead.

I am the Batman

by CodyG on Dec 15, 2009 1:25 AM EST up reply actions  

puffy, biggie, same diff

don’t confuse me with facts damnit. faith evans his wife was singing & he was in the video, so he was there

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 15, 2009 1:27 AM EST up reply actions  

don't tell me cgirly is the biggie commish as well?

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 15, 2009 1:29 AM EST up reply actions  

f'ing wills always bit me in the keister

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 15, 2009 1:33 AM EST up reply actions  

So far from hanging on the block for dough Notorious, they got to know that

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 15, 2009 1:19 AM EST up reply actions  

baseball season seems so long ago

I have a love/hate relationship with the Cardinals' middle relief corps. | Cards on Cards

by madding on Dec 15, 2009 1:05 AM EST reply actions  

Well, not much going on around these parts beyond finals talk

I’m thinking about packing it in

Testicle-exploding shit storms, to date: T.E.S.S '08, T.E.S.S '09

by dan on Dec 15, 2009 1:06 AM EST reply actions  

I have nothing against finals

I just stopped discussing them on baseball forums about seven years ago.

Testicle-exploding shit storms, to date: T.E.S.S '08, T.E.S.S '09

by dan on Dec 15, 2009 1:11 AM EST up reply actions  

That sounded snottier than intended

I just meant to say “ain’t shit going down here, so I’m gonna hit the hay!”

Testicle-exploding shit storms, to date: T.E.S.S '08, T.E.S.S '09

by dan on Dec 15, 2009 1:12 AM EST up reply actions  

fair enough

i’m now going to assume you’re 29 years old.

jd is legend for Cardinals' closer 2010!!

by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 15, 2009 1:13 AM EST up reply actions  

And you're right!

Testicle-exploding shit storms, to date: T.E.S.S '08, T.E.S.S '09

by dan on Dec 15, 2009 9:47 AM EST up reply actions  

damn

am i good or am i good?

follow me on twitter @nickg105

by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 15, 2009 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

you'll probably miss about 12 other memes

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 15, 2009 1:08 AM EST up reply actions  

The Boston signing of Cameron should drive Holliday's price down a LOT

Only New York seems to be in the fray now, and they could easily sign Bay instead. If Holliday still gets 8/120, then Mo is a shitty GM.

by vivaelpujols on Dec 15, 2009 1:11 AM EST reply actions  

The Angels Matsui signing could also play in

One fewer team looking for an outfielder. Of course, they’ll probably DH Matsui…

by JWO on Dec 15, 2009 1:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Which means

Abreu in RF and Juan Rivera in LF probably. No place for Holliday in that mix.

Please consider any Hot Stove talk in the above comment is spoken under the assumption that the Cardinals are not signing Matt Holliday.

by fourstick on Dec 15, 2009 10:17 AM EST up reply actions  

700+ comments

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 15, 2009 1:14 AM EST reply actions  

just noting that took about 14 minutes or less

it’s more impressive on one overflow anyway…

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Dec 15, 2009 1:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Sorry to disappoint on the non-news story, btw

But that’s probably the most we see tonight. A lot of nothing.

by JWO on Dec 15, 2009 1:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Not even mentioning Strauss' name

FOR SHAME

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Dec 15, 2009 1:21 AM EST up reply actions  

That's basically just a rehashing of Strauss' article

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Dec 15, 2009 1:21 AM EST up reply actions  

but they didn't give him credit for it, which is awesome if you ask me

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 15, 2009 1:22 AM EST up reply actions  

gdm has 25,965 comments right now

WOW.

jd is legend for Cardinals' closer 2010!!

by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 15, 2009 1:22 AM EST reply actions  

I TOLD YOU NOT TO LOOK!

Every morning I wake up & smoke a dart. Then I eat five strips of bacon, & for lunch I eat a bacon sandwich. And for a midday snack? Bacon! A whole damn plate! And I usually drink my dinner. And I'm still here! Sometimes I wonder if God forgot about me.

by gdm426 on Dec 15, 2009 1:23 AM EST up reply actions  

sorry dad

follow me on twitter @nickg105

by stlcardinalsfang on Dec 15, 2009 1:24 AM EST up reply actions