What the Cardinals can take from the Yankees, besides the luxury tax
by DanUpBaby on Nov 5, 2009 6:06 AM EST
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First, some briefs on yesterday's roster moves:
It's interesting to see the Brad Thompson perception gap—the RotoWorld box in the sidebar thinks he'll have no problem finding a job, even as a fifth starter; the Baseball Primer thread is remarkably positive, for BTF. But I think the average VEBer wrote off the artist occasionally known as WonderBrad a long time ago.
I'll always think of him as a better pitcher than he probably was and is; I'm as susceptible as anybody else to overvaluing a player when he gets off to a good start, and there were moments there in 2005 (it seems like it's been longer) where his weird sinker seemed like the makings of a uniquely valuable short reliever. But I'm hard-pressed to think of any team that's strapped enough for choice to give him a clear shot as a fifth starter coming off a year with a K/9 of 3.8.
Jarrett Hoffpauir leaves the 40 man roster—and, though this wasn't the Cardinals' intent, the organization—a victim of circumstance; without the Julio Lugo deal he might come into 2010 as the Cardinals' best free choice for Skip Schumaker's equally awkward right-handed caddy, but Lugo has a name and at least theoretically plays short. It's tough luck for the Cardinals; finding purchase on a big league roster is hard for backup infielders who can't play shortstop, but Hoffpauir, with his occasionally impressive bat and his consistently impressive BB:K ratio, has one more definable skill than most of these guys. (Being a Cardinals farmhand is apparently also a path to gainful MLB employment for these guys—Edgar Gonzalez and the poor man's Jarrett Hoffpauir, Mike McCoy, both saw big league time this year.)
In 2010 he would have had Lugo on one side and Daniel Descalso, who somehow failed to receive regular playing time in his 2009 AAA stint, on the other, though, so maybe it's best he's gone to an organization without a veteran playing for free and a prospect at second. (Which makes it even weirder that Joe Thurston didn't get the Brad Thompson treatment—hopefully he'll spend his Memphis summer working on his footwork rounding second base, not standing next to it.)
With that out of the way, the big news: the Yankees have finally beaten the Curse of Clay Bellinger. It was a tough road, but I can only hope that they have enough footage of Jimmy Fallon running out onto the field to properly commemorate those long years in Fever Pitch 2. What did these Yankees do that the Cardinals can emulate, multi-billion dollar payroll aside?
1. Make the Free Agent deals count. The list of Yankees busts in the years between 2000 and 2009 is comical both quantitatively and qualitatitively—these guys signed Jaret Wright, Carl Pavano, and Kei Igawa to deals totaling $106 million. The spending binge prior to 2009 will justifiably get a lot of attention as the difference-maker between this club and the ones that preceded it, but this time around Brian Cashman was at least forward-thinking enough to sign players who have established track records of performing in a way that resembles their enormous contracts.
This hasn't been true of the Cardinals' last three pitching free agents—Kyle Lohse was signed at the absolute peak of his value, for a dollar value that seems blissfully disconnected from the rest of his body of work. The Joel Pineiro and Mark Mulder contracts, each two years, $13 million, were both affordable risks, and one of them worked out better than the Cardinals could possibly have imagined, but they were an extremely speculative way to spend $26 million; there wasn't much in their recent history to suggest they were multi-million dollar pitchers, of a separate species from recent gambles like John Smoltz or even the first appearances of Lohse and Pineiro.
Matt Holliday is, for all his Boras-sized ambitions, a guy who will come into the first year of his contract almost certain to play up to it. He's durable, he's still within sight of his peak years, and he's a consistently excellent hitter with a broad base of skills. Which combines with makes Joe Strauss's recent, inexplicably phrased chat insinuations an interesting, if not instructive, topic of discussion:
Chairman Bill DeWitt recently denied that the club has made Holliday an offer; however, there are suggestions that the Cardinals discussed a 6-year, $96 million framework with Holliday's agent, Scott Boras.
I'll be honest: I have no idea what "suggestions" means when it is both unsourced and right after an official club denial but also accompanied by an extremely specific contract "framework." No idea whatsoever. But assuming that Joe Strauss is not the one suggesting this, or Joe Strauss's barber, this seems like a fine deal for a team that, as a recent fanshot noticed, is filled with a ton of decent players. $16 million could be parceled out to three or four basically average guys, hole-fillers, and probably earn more wins above that famous replacement player than Holliday himself. But this team doesn't need Reggie Sanders—it needs MV3.
An argument could be made that these big free agent contracts need to be seen as the reward for, and culmination of, years spent cultivating guys like Skip Schumaker and David Freese to negate the need for the Kyle Lohses. But at $96 million, instead of $180 million, I guess two out of three isn't so bad.
2. Develop an inconceivably long-lasting internal core. How are three of the Yankees' best players still holdovers from 1996? Asking the Cardinals to develop three to five borderline Hall of Famers over the course of the next three years is probably a little too much to ask, but it's nice to see the Cardinals progressing in this direction; Pujols and Wainwright were locked down early, and I wouldn't be surprised to see Colby Rasmus follow along the same path.
Losing Brett Wallace leaves them one future core player short, but I'm glad the Cardinals still have at least one in the system; winning 78 games in 2007 isn't far removed from having top prospects like Jimmy Journell and post-surgery Blake Hawksworth a few years earlier. Get here soon, Shelby Miller.
3. Look at all those young, successful relievers! The Cardinals made—and have continued to make—a good-faith effort at this with guys like Jason Motte and Chris Perez and Kyle McClellan. And since I am lost as you to the reasons for the enormous gap between Motte's PCL and MLB numbers, it's frustrating to see the Yankees' three fine young relievers, even if two of them had less than impressive postseasons.
Interesting, though, to see how the three came to be important parts in the Yankee pen—one should probably still be in the Yankee rotation, another was a minor league free agent and career starter.
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Frickin LAME.
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Nov 5, 2009 8:03 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Number 1 hit for me:
He said ‘tentacle porn’, so I stuck my dick in a toaster and went from there. Helen Mirren came in and started reading from a Clive Cussler novel, and by now I was having serious doubts about my abilities to emulate the octupi’s performance. Besides my dick was getting real hot.
I flipped the lever on the toaster up, but that did not have the desired effect. I winced in pain and then realized the camera crew was still shooting. “Ooh baby,” I said to the toaster with no real passion.
“Cut!” I heard the director say, “Print that and get me the squid for the next scene.”
I smile. I like squids. It’s times like these that I realize that being a tentacle porn star is A-OK.
by brackenthebox on Nov 5, 2009 7:51 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No, THIS is Number One!
"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra
by The Ol Goaler on Nov 5, 2009 12:11 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
the pineiro contract really was the ultimate "wang-in-a-toaster" moment.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Nov 5, 2009 1:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
you know...
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
by hazel on Nov 5, 2009 3:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Al...
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Nov 6, 2009 5:37 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It really is.
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
by andi_k on Nov 6, 2009 12:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
José Molina has one extra ring than his brothers
It’s on now.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 5, 2009 8:19 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Lugo has one more advantage
He is cheaper than Jarrett Hoffpauir.
Cardinals fan from Korea
by FreeRedbird on Nov 5, 2009 9:05 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
same price, right?
both on league minimum
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
by VolsnCards5 on Nov 5, 2009 1:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Lugo is free; the Sawx are paying his salary next year
…right?
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
by andi_k on Nov 5, 2009 2:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
everything but the league minimum
is how i understand it
by FunkeeC on Nov 5, 2009 2:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
so Lugo isn't totally free
I learn everyday from this site.
Cardinals fan from Korea
by FreeRedbird on Nov 5, 2009 7:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
"Free" in that he'll earn more in six months of playing a game than I have so far in my life....
that kinda free.
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Nov 6, 2009 5:37 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Cards' needs
In front of Pujols….they need a high on-base guy who gets on first alot. (no doubles or triples) And that guy should be able to make a pitcher pay for grooving fastballs. Who best fits this?
Free Agent: Bobby Abreu
Trade: Adam Dunn
Who should hit behind Pujols? Someone who hits well with runners in scoring position and hits a lot of doubles.
Free Agent: Matt Holiday
Trade: ???
There are a lot of combos out there: How about Abreu and Glaus? How about Holiday and Freese, Guerrero and Derosa, Beltre and Nady?
If Buster Olney is correct, this could be a banner year for non-tenders. This could be a way for the Birdos to get some pretty good young talent for a less than huge sum of money.
What ever happened to Amauri Marti?
How about handin' me another helpin' of those mashed taters...thank you very much!
by Elvis on Nov 5, 2009 9:16 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
adam dunn
would make me a happy, happy man. surely if Midwestern Pie can make skip schumaker into a mediocre second baseman it can make adam dunn into a mediocre left fielder who only mostly hates baseball.
by DanUpBaby on Nov 5, 2009 9:18 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Problem
Adam Dunn hates pie, because it is American in nature.
by Hardcore Legend on Nov 5, 2009 9:43 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
only certain kinds of pie though
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Nov 5, 2009 6:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
f'in rhubarb
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by gdm426 on Nov 5, 2009 8:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
not THAT kind of pie
f’in gdm!
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
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by mattyfrommo on Nov 5, 2009 8:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i love rhubarb.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Nov 5, 2009 8:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
is rhubarb a euphemism that I do not know about?
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
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by mattyfrommo on Nov 5, 2009 8:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
naw. i really love rhubarb.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Nov 5, 2009 8:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I love rhubarb as well
and damn it gdm! You got this damn sub-thread off track!
I still think Adam Dunn likes pie.
I still would like to see Adam Dunn batting in front of Albert.
I think from here on out we should refer to Adam Dunn as Adun.
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Nov 5, 2009 8:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
back the day, rhubarb meant something else
it was dirty
and i don’t like Adun. come up with something better
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by gdm426 on Nov 5, 2009 8:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
According to urban dictionary...
Rhubarb:
A dispute or fight in baseball, often escalating to a bench-clearing brawl.
Also can refer to the aftermath of a bad call from an umpire.
But I think I found the dirty meaning to which you’re referring.
by peach concrete on Nov 5, 2009 8:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
uh, that's not what it meant at my high school
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by gdm426 on Nov 5, 2009 8:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, there are some different definitions there as well
by peach concrete on Nov 5, 2009 8:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
#6 was the only one i saw that was in the neighborhood
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by gdm426 on Nov 5, 2009 8:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, it sucks (Adun, not rhubarb)
and now I take it all back , you were keeping the thread going in the right direction.
I will flog myself now.
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Nov 5, 2009 8:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
don't you have a wife for that?
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by gdm426 on Nov 5, 2009 8:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
like I always say
Marriage is evil, EVIL!
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Nov 5, 2009 8:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
that sucks man
that’s actually a reason why i never want to sleep with a girl that i’m 6 with. if by some miracle we did end up getting married, i don’t want her to be able to use sex as a weapon against me. i could totally be wrong about this though.
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by gdm426 on Nov 5, 2009 8:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I am not married
I just don’t believe in the concept
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Nov 5, 2009 9:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i could have sworn you've talked about the wife before
or was it one of the other 20 mattys? damn my old age
i have a lot of reservations about marriage too
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by gdm426 on Nov 5, 2009 11:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I am a married matty
In my experience, if you find yourself married to a woman who uses sex as a weapon against you, then either you’re seeing this incorrectly, or your relationship is really weird and needs work. Because I pretty much can’t imagine that ever happening to me. But maybe that’s because I have the awesomest spouse in the universe, take that world! You all are right to be jealous.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Nov 6, 2009 12:25 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Read This Flowchart Matt
It might just save your marriage
by FlimtotheFlam on Nov 6, 2009 12:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Awwww...
That’s adorable.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 6, 2009 12:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
or you're terrible at having sex.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Nov 6, 2009 12:30 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
HOW DO YOU KNOW ABOUT MY--
I mean, what a crazy notion.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Nov 6, 2009 12:30 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
remember, spell out the alphabet with your tongue.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Nov 6, 2009 12:32 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My world will never be the same now
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Nov 6, 2009 12:33 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks, Fritz!
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Nov 6, 2009 12:37 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
oh shit
i was using a ballpoint pen….
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Nov 6, 2009 5:40 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
How about Adamn?
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Nov 5, 2009 11:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ME TOO!
Rhubarb clan, ENGAGE!
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Nov 6, 2009 5:38 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And now for something completely different.
/This whole little sub thread would make a great Monty Python sketch.
"Everyone in here comes to the yard ready to play every day. I’ll take this group, any day until the day I die."
"This whole Cardinals thing.....I don’t know if you guys are a believer, but I’m a believer."
~ Ryan Fucking Ludwick
by RiverRat on Nov 5, 2009 11:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
success?
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by gdm426 on Nov 5, 2009 11:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Absofrickinglutelywick
/the wick is baseball talk.
"Everyone in here comes to the yard ready to play every day. I’ll take this group, any day until the day I die."
"This whole Cardinals thing.....I don’t know if you guys are a believer, but I’m a believer."
~ Ryan Fucking Ludwick
by RiverRat on Nov 5, 2009 11:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
BUT WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT BASEBALL
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
by andi_k on Nov 5, 2009 11:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We have failed again.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 5, 2009 11:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
have we? have we really cgirly?
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by gdm426 on Nov 5, 2009 11:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not in my book.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 5, 2009 11:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nor mine, but 99% chance he is complaining about the three of us
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
by andi_k on Nov 5, 2009 11:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
he's going to have to take a number & get in line
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by gdm426 on Nov 5, 2009 11:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes.
That’s why I didn’t say anything. I try to stay on topic, I really do. But it’s fun to talk about other things too. And I’m not a math person so I feel like I can’t contribute a lot to the stat discussions.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 5, 2009 11:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
dunn signed with the nats
clearly, he likes money more than baseball.
does bring the question to mind though, is holliday worth 2 adam dunn caliber players to the 2010 cards?
my feeling is, probably not
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
by sportsman on Nov 5, 2009 9:44 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
More like eight to twenty.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
by hazel on Nov 5, 2009 3:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You do realize...
he hit fewer home runs in 2009 than any year since 2003? He’s entered into a terminal decline.
Plus his top two comps are Daryl Strawberry and Jose Canseco. Do you really want some hybridized, Jo-ryl Canberry type guy poisoning left field?
MB for LF in 2010!
by guayzimi on Nov 5, 2009 9:46 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Turkey for you. Turkey for me.
I can’t believe the mets traded Jo-ryl Cranberry.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
by rocKStark5 on Nov 5, 2009 10:00 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
haha, those two? seriously?
even baseball reference is convinced adam dunn hates baseball.
by DanUpBaby on Nov 5, 2009 10:12 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Strawberry and Canseco
talk about the kiss of death
by enoscountry on Nov 5, 2009 10:13 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Terminal decline?
Yeah, he sucks in the field. That’s a given. But the dude can still rake. I don’t see anything that indicates he is in a downward spiral.
wOBAs, 2001-2009: .397, .373, .353, .403, .391, .365, .399, .383, .394
HRs, 2001-2009: 19, 26, 27, 46, 40, 40, 40, 40, 38
A whopping 2 fewer HRs, but a higher wOBA (and highest OBP since 2002).
Free Milton
by all4tookie on Nov 5, 2009 10:32 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
am generally uncomfortable putting in a weak LF
behind a black hole at 3B.
Boog doesn’t count.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 5, 2009 10:37 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If Freese is your 3B...
which is speculative at best, you don’t have to worry about defense at the hot corner.
If you see a guy open the car door for his girlfriend, either the car is new or the girlfriend is.
by cardzfanbub on Nov 5, 2009 10:53 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Scotty's Curse is wearing me down
speculative at best
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 5, 2009 10:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
you don't see anything?
Seems pretty self-evident to me.
by DanUpBaby on Nov 5, 2009 10:39 AM EST up reply actions 28 recs
Rec'd
for the awesome mis-representation that is that graph — that’s laugh out loud funny.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on Nov 5, 2009 10:43 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
how could he not have managed *exactly* two more home runs?
clearly the patriotism park effect.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 5, 2009 10:46 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Statistically proven
I like the cut of your jib. (2,000,000 internet dollars for whoever gets the next reference – “And I say, ’It’s the only jib I’ve got, baby!’”)
I was reading about how countless species are being pushed toward extinction by man's destruction of forests. Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us. - Calvin, Scientific Progress Goes "Boink", Watterson
by Solanus on Nov 5, 2009 10:47 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The Tick
I’d like to be paid in WootBucks if at all possible….
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on Nov 5, 2009 10:52 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
One of these days
Milkshakes! BOOM!!!
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Nov 5, 2009 10:52 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Done and done
You know, evil comes in many forms, be it a man-eating cow or Joseph Stalin. But you can’t let the package hide the pudding. Evil is just plain bad. You don’t cotton to it. You gotta smack it on the nose with the rolled up newspaper of goodness. Bad dog! Bad dog!
I was reading about how countless species are being pushed toward extinction by man's destruction of forests. Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us. - Calvin, Scientific Progress Goes "Boink", Watterson
by Solanus on Nov 5, 2009 1:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Talk about falling off a cliff
The numbers don’t lie, people. Also, I like the use of decimal points in the y-axis. Fans in general don’t seem to appreciate the value of partial homeruns, IMO.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Nov 5, 2009 10:55 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
that's when it's a line drive with power
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 5, 2009 10:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
When Albert says he's "nod a hone-rung heater" it's a half-truth at best.
Since all those partial homers add up to plenty of de facto homers.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Nov 5, 2009 10:59 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I thought it was proportional
i.e. singles worth .25, etc.
Totaling up Boog via this method = 46.25 HR. Full credit only Albert = 47 HR. Ridiculous.
Free Milton
by all4tookie on Nov 5, 2009 11:06 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
no
Boog had a 0.9 home run which was cub-aided. Manny also robbed him for 0.1 home run. So he still ends up with 4.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 5, 2009 11:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
A single is worth
a cup of Bengal Trader coffee at Mobil on the Run after a serious game?
by Hardcore Legend on Nov 5, 2009 7:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Unless it's a moon shot that gets caught off the wall.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Nov 5, 2009 11:44 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If you look after the tenths-of-dingers
then the dingers will look after themselves.
Old proverb.
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Nov 5, 2009 12:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
A tenth of a dinger in time leaves .9
Also: a dinger saved is a dinger earned.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Nov 5, 2009 1:16 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
rec'd
AWESOME! :)
Best moment I've ever seen at a game in person
"If it was Zoom Zoom'd, we'd be doom doom'd" - making fun of myself for my bad luck streak in the 2009 season
Looking forward to Cardinals baseball in 2010!
by zoomzoomj88 on Nov 5, 2009 3:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Why no doubles or triples?
Sounds like fun to me.
Free Milton
by all4tookie on Nov 5, 2009 9:51 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You wouldn't want to leave first unoccupied with Albert up would you?
It might give the other team ideas.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Nov 5, 2009 11:46 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If first is unoccupied because someone else is on second or third, I am fine with that
While not as exciting as watching him hit, free passes to Albert are a good thing
Free Milton
by all4tookie on Nov 5, 2009 12:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
disagree
if he’s in a slump, they prolong his slumps
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 5, 2009 12:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
how is it bad that when things are going badly (for him)
that he still gets on base regularly.
in fact, thats what makes him so great
by FunkeeC on Nov 5, 2009 12:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
when frustrated and angry mang starts swinging outside the zone
and pulls a muscle, you won’t like it very much
besides, as I see it, unless the entire team goes into a more effective running game instead of station-to-station, on-base will count for shit and LOBsters. let Albert do what he does best. I’d rather have more runs than more bases.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 5, 2009 12:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
more bases = more runs
And I don’t think I buy the “If Albert is in a slump, and he walks, his slump will continue and he will start chasing pitches outside of the zone and get hurt doing so” line of thinking. Seems far less important than actual baserunners.
Free Milton
by all4tookie on Nov 5, 2009 12:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i was joking about the getting hurt part
and everything before that actually happened this season, so… okay…
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 5, 2009 12:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
what albert does best is not make outs
so yes, keep getting on base albert
by FunkeeC on Nov 5, 2009 12:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
there's a fundamental difference
between what he does best in his individual stats
and how he functions vis-a-vis the lineup.
especially when the first comment is
free passes to Albert are a good thinggood for who? when the 4-5-6 hitters strike out? I’m sure it’s great for Albert, because he can raise his OBP and we can all ignore how he’s not getting a chance to correct his footwork because he doesn’t get pitches to hit.
yeah that strategy never works for opposing teams…
I feel like someone needs to chime in with some BASIC again, because this is gonna get circular.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 5, 2009 12:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
chuckb did a very good post earlier this year about how it was almost never a good move to intentionally pass Albert
even if the #4 and #5 hitters are Luddy and Rasmus (pretty much worst-case scenario this year), if there’s less than two outs we’ve still got something like a 55% chance of driving at least one run in, and if Albert’s on 1st, any xbh (or any combo of walk/single + another hit) will drive in 2 runs instead of 1.
Even Albert makes an out about 60% of the time, when he’s not being given an IBB.
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Nov 5, 2009 1:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I pretty much agree
that yes, Albert getting on-base is a sure thing and effective for Albert’s value in the game and to the team.
I don’t buy that — with the lineup as it is — Albert getting walked either with men on base or to add to men on base is going to generate runs if he is more effective at driving in runs than the people after him. Until we, as I said, develop a better running game or recharge the hitters behind him, he’ll be stranded just like all the other times.
(A metaphor I discarded was ‘the dog’s good at wagging, but I’d rather he bite than wag.’ but then I thought twice.)
Basically the OP said it was an automatic good thing, and I just disagree. The negatives may not outweigh the positives, but they exist.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 5, 2009 1:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
and
he should hit 4th
highest rbi and obp guy = ideal #4
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
by sportsman on Nov 5, 2009 1:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ALbert getting on base is good for the team.
Runner on 2nd, Albert at the plate, he will drive him home only around 1/3 of the time. He will drive in two runs only around 6% of the time.
Runners on 1st and 2nd, Ryan Ludwick will drive in a run between 25-30% of the time, and he will drive in two runs about 10% of the time, driving in 3 runs 5% of the time.
Your chances of driving in one run go down, but your chances of scoring more than 1 go up, so if it’s late and you’re playing for a single run, it’s better for Albert to hit. Otherwise, it’s best for him to let them pitch around him.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
by hazel on Nov 5, 2009 3:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually tookie, I was just kidding about that.
I guess I should’ve denoted light sarcasm.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Nov 5, 2009 1:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, I'm super serial today
Free Milton
by all4tookie on Nov 5, 2009 5:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sign Damon!
I want the Walrus back...
by Paulspike on Nov 5, 2009 11:35 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't understand the recent surge in Johnny Damon love.
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Nov 5, 2009 6:38 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I don't want any old-ass left fielders
didn’t he just turn 36? That’s old in baseball years
(you young’uns keep your traps shut)
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
by andi_k on Nov 5, 2009 7:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That's even older than me....I mean, that's even older than you Andi!
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Nov 5, 2009 7:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, yes, it is.
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
by andi_k on Nov 5, 2009 8:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So...
…Elvis wrote:
In front of Pujols….they need a high on-base guy who gets on first alot. (no doubles or triples)
I understand the need for a player with high OBP hitting in front of Pujols. Any MLB manager would want players on base in front of their best hitter.
I disagree with the “no doubles or triples” logic, though. That’s essentially saying, “I don’t want runners in scoring position in front of my best hitter.” Ask any MLB manager and I think they would prefer to have runners in scoring position as much as possible. Even in front of Pujols. There are rare situational exceptions to this preference (e.g., two out, guy on first, Pujols at the plate = please do not attempt a steal and take the bat out of Albert’s hands for the remainder of the inning.)
Also, I don’t think you’re going to find the player you described very easily. Abreu’s not the player. He has a history of hitting a lot of doubles. You’re asking for a singles hitter who draws a lot of BBs or HBPs. Pitchers are not afraid to challenge singles hitters, therefore they are less inclined to receive walks. Do you have any other players in mind? That would be an interesting question for some of the more stat-savvy VEB contributors. Maybe Derek Jeter? He’s the only player that comes to mind, off-hand.
by Matt Bug on Nov 5, 2009 1:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
agreed on the doubles and triple thing
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
by VolsnCards5 on Nov 5, 2009 1:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If there were such a player, it's Adam Dunn
That is, assuming that we do want an high OBP guy in front of Albert who doesn’t hit tons of doubles. He is good for maybe 25-30 doubles a year. The rest is singles, dingers, and walks. Singles and walks, in our hypothetical situation where we don’t want doubles in front of Albert, are good. Dingers are dandy too, because it’s a guaranteed run and then you have Albert leading off, which is great because of his awesome OBP. How often would teams IBB Albert with the bases empty? I guess that’s the question.
Again, I’m not saying I agree that doubles and triples in front of Albert are bad, but Dunn’s gotta be that guy.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Nov 5, 2009 1:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Understand this
The no doubles or triples comment is in a half-joking manner. It is to make fun of the concept that Albert will always get walked with the base empty. The other half is that if you had a good on-base guy who hits alot of doubles and triples, you might be better served batting that player behind Pujols.
Abreu would be a decent fit based on his good on-base skills and affordability, however, that is done. Angels just signed him for a reasonable contract. If you were looking for the ideal player to fit into my silly scenario, it would be Adam Dunn. However, I don’t know if I could stomach watching that guy play defense.
As far as Derek Jeter, he is not available.
How about handin' me another helpin' of those mashed taters...thank you very much!
by Elvis on Nov 5, 2009 7:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I half-suspected you were kinda joking, but I didn't want to assume
Anyway, let’s all just hope we don’t have too much sub-par OBP in front of Pujols next year. That alone will be a decent start.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Nov 5, 2009 7:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Abreu Re-Signed with Angels....
….for 2 years..
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
by The MooCow on Nov 5, 2009 4:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Pujols is fantastic
but he still fails almost 70 percent of the time at the plate…
Ill take the doubles and triples.
People take the whole Pujols getting pitched around a bit TOO big of a deal
by jealousblues on Nov 6, 2009 4:34 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No, he fails like 55-60% of the time at the plate
Unless you consider walks failures
And, in a related story, this week marked the 5,000th performance of the Broadway musical "Cats." It also marked the 5,000th time a guy turned to his wife and said, "What the hell is this?"
by jd is legend on Nov 6, 2009 10:50 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think Brad will find a home.
Besides what is believed here, most teams feel they need a garbage inning/spot starter type guy on the rosters. And most teams don’t carry 13 pitchers. So I guy like Thompson is seen with some value by other teams.
Now then, If a team signs him and claims their search for a number 3 starter is over…Get the pitch-forks out.
by Evilfrog on Nov 5, 2009 9:55 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I couldn't hold on to a pitch fork.
I’d be too busy laughing my ass off.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Nov 5, 2009 11:48 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It's really, incredibly difficult to do what the Yankees have done...
without spending a shitload of money chasing everything wearing a free agent skirt:
1. Make the Free Agent deals count.
You brought up the 3 worst contracts that they signed, but what about the other contracts they’ve carried for players who were somewhat productive but not near worth their salary? Jeter, Matsui, Giambi, Clemens and Posada all made way more than they were actually worth (or still are), so part of their secret is overpaying market value to keep your own free agents. How many productive free agents have the Yankees lost off of their team? Then, how many of those guys received a contract well above market value? I don’t think that’s any different than the Piniero/Mulder signings made by the Cardinals — they just have a much higher tolerance for overpaying players than the Cardinals do, so they are able to overpay good players in their decline phase rather than gamble on injured players.
2. Develop an inconceivably long-lasting internal core
The Brett Wallace-baiting aside, can you name another team in the last 15 years that’s been able to do this? Even the Dodgers of the 90’s, who had as much talent come out of their farm system as any other team in that decade, weren’t able to keep all of those guys together, nor were a lot of them HOF caliber players. The only team I can think of is the Braves, who spent as much money as anyone else during their string of division titles in the 90’s.
There’s just a shitload of luck involved in having this happen to you, as well as overpaying for players like Jeter, Rivera, and Posada to keep them Yankees — contracts that nobody else would have paid them on the open market. Jeter will be barely worth his, Posada will need another season like 2009 to even get close to equaling his salary in value, and Rivera is making over $5M more per season than any other reliever in baseball. If they aren’t able to grossly overpay those players, are they still in New York? It’s hard to say….
3. Look at all those young, successful relievers!
I agree that this is something that the Cardinals could emulate, but don’t try to tell me with a straight face that if Philip Hughes were in the Cardinal bullpen that VEB wouldn’t be up in arms about it. We’d be pleading for him to be moved back to the rotation — look at the flame up that happened when they moved Jess Todd to the bullpen in AAA, now multiply the fervor by 20X and top it with a giant fireball and you’d have something similar to what the reaction would have been to having Hughes in the bullpen. Same with Alfredo Aceves, who was a pretty good starter (think Anthony Reyes good) in the minor leagues before being transitioned to the bullpen. What allowed them to move two really good minor league starters to the bullpen you ask? Why, the ability to go out and spend $45M per season on two free agent starters! Again, the Cardinals need those type of guys to be in the rotation in order to be successful in the long term — the Yankees will just throw more money at the front-line starter problem, which allows them to put good, young arms in the bullpen.
As you can see, it’s the ability to spend 4-6 times the league average per win that allows all of these things to happen. Unless the Cardinals start spending money willy-nilly, I find it difficult to believe that we are capable of replicating the Yankees’ success.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on Nov 5, 2009 10:08 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
i'd hoped that the word "inconceivably" would make it clear that I was at least mildly facetious about this
and that I was aware of the luck and the fortune that has allowed the yankees to do what they’ve done here. lessons can be learned, or if nothing else observations can be made—the fundamental fact of the yankees’ huge tolerance for error doesn’t prevent us from recognizing what they did right and talking about it.
it’s a thought experiment, not a prescription—and certainly not an indictment. I’m not sure where you got the idea that I wasn’t aware that putting anthony reyes+ in the bullpen wouldn’t (justly) cause huge cartoon puffs of steam to erupt from the baseball internet’s ears, or that teams don’t select their draft picks with advanced knowledge of their subsequent hall of fame careers. (incidentally, comparing aceves, career minor league K/9 6.6, refugee of the mexican league and the waiver wire, to anthony reyes does my flat-brimmed prospect-crush a serious disservice.)
I lost the first draft of this comment to pressing a bookmarklet instead of the right-most tab on my safari topbar, so assume everything I just said was 5-10% more eloquent before.
by DanUpBaby on Nov 5, 2009 10:26 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I wasn't trying to indict you on this Dan,
I assumed you were taking a large grain of salt with these ideas…however, I did want to note that all of your points had as much to do with their insane payroll disparity as it did luck, good management, or anything else.
I’m also not saying that them spending $200M per year on payroll is a bad thing. I don’t think that it’s bad for baseball, and it’s definitely not a bad thing for the players. They make a lot of money as a franchise and they spend a lot of money as a franchise, mostly on ensuring that they are going to win games.
I do think that there are avenues that the Cardinals could pursue to increase revenues that are not related to raising ticket prices. I’m working on a FanPost about this, but I’m trying to get the best information possible before I post it.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on Nov 5, 2009 10:41 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
but i think we fans of other teams need to be a little worried about how they spend their money
because they learned from 00-09 that just throwing good money at not so great players wins them nothing. now they are spending their large financial means a lot more wisely. thus insuring they won’t be burdened with the giambi’s, wrights & pavon’s anymore. they are probably going to continue to have the largest payroll in the MLB, but that money is going to be spent on only the best.
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by gdm426 on Nov 5, 2009 4:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think that the more they spend,
the more it should help other teams, via the luxury tax, would should allow them to spend more as well.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on Nov 5, 2009 5:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
unless that team is headed by Jocketty
who flat out said he used to be “sneaky” pre-luxury tax.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
by rocKStark5 on Nov 5, 2009 5:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
MLB luxury tax
isn’t it based on revenues? i thought it was the nba that was based on salary spending?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
by cardball on Nov 6, 2009 12:40 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
For all Payroll above $170M their is a 40% tax (2010)
by FlimtotheFlam on Nov 6, 2009 12:48 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
thanks
so there are two separate items – revenue sharing and luxury tax? can’t imagine the latter affects anyone but the yanks.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
by cardball on Nov 6, 2009 1:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
it doesn't, that's why it's called "fuck the yanks tax".
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
by rocKStark5 on Nov 6, 2009 8:30 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It affects everyone
because it keeps most teams from going over that amount without having to pay luxury tax, i.e. a “soft cap”. The NBA has a similar structure with more stringent rules on free agent signings (mid-level exceptions and the Bird exception, which allows you to sign your own free agents to matching deals without regard for the cap, but with luxury tax penalty).
If the Yankees decided they didn’t want to pay the tax anymore, they don’t have to, they just have get payroll below $170M. Similarly, if other teams wanted to build a similar squad, they could go over $170M and pay the tax. Other teams have decided that there’s a better way to build a ballclub than to spend outrageous amounts on tons of free agents.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on Nov 6, 2009 8:49 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
I lost the first draft of this comment to pressing a bookmarklet instead of the right-most tab on my safari topbar, so assume everything I just said was 5-10% more eloquent before.
by salukihoops on Nov 5, 2009 5:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i'm still trying to think of a good cage match
but in the meantime,
when were all of Albert’s grand slams this year?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 5, 2009 10:34 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I have no idea how many times he ate at Denny's...
But baseball-wise, they occurred on 4/11, 4/25, 6/21, 7/3, and 8/4. Link.
Free Milton
by all4tookie on Nov 5, 2009 10:39 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dennys has his with frijoles
Albert has so many records and awards, I couldn’t find the stat.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 5, 2009 10:43 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He had a tendency of eating at Denny's?
I had no idea he had a friendship with our lefty..
I want the Walrus back...
by Paulspike on Nov 5, 2009 11:37 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
oh sweet memories... so it began:
HOLY SHIT
did anybody see pinata’s molestache?!
by prophetjohn on Jun 30, 2009 8:11 PM CDT
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 5, 2009 10:50 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
prophetjohn, being a prophet
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 5, 2009 10:52 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The sight of Chris Duncan idly stuffing whatever-that-is (chew? chaw? seeds? big league chew?) into his mouth makes me kind of sad.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Nov 5, 2009 10:57 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the game thread determined it wasn't
he quit for his surgery
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 5, 2009 11:00 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
and then on July 1
woah woah…
ok when did the pitchers decide to grow staches?
by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 1, 2009 7:35 PM CDT
When they decided to be awesome…
by ducttape16 on Jul 1, 2009 7:36 PM CDT
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 5, 2009 11:58 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
images of hairier
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 5, 2009 12:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
[redacted]ing [redacted]-[redacted]ing [redacted]ers!!
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 5, 2009 12:35 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
It's kind of a neat picture though
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Nov 5, 2009 12:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yes, it was a fine photoshop job
of EVIL.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 5, 2009 12:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Psh, they coulda hired me to do it better.
BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
by vexedtechie on Nov 5, 2009 3:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
you'll be promoted sooner or later
don’t forget us down here in the minors
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 5, 2009 3:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm a man who'd never forget his roots.
I remember high-school bloggin’ when I photoshopped cars. I’m just glad I’ve been able to serve so much time here to develop my skills and develop friendships.
BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
by vexedtechie on Nov 5, 2009 3:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
no matter how big you get, you'll always be VEB's photoshop biatch to me
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by gdm426 on Nov 5, 2009 4:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And you'll always be a grumpy old fella to me.
BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
by vexedtechie on Nov 5, 2009 5:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
there's a sitcom somewhere in here
i can feel it in my brittle old bones
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by gdm426 on Nov 5, 2009 5:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't worry. I'll provide the laugh track.
BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
by vexedtechie on Nov 5, 2009 11:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
FREE VEXEDTECHIE!!!
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Nov 6, 2009 5:47 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
didn't they steal that from the PD?
i was just there & that pic is on the main story on their Cards section
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by gdm426 on Nov 5, 2009 4:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i saw that
i’m trying to figure out who did it
but between the P-D’s horrible site and the lack of credit, I can’t tell
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 5, 2009 4:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
if i was a betting man, i'd say they did it first
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by gdm426 on Nov 5, 2009 4:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
it looks too good for P-D
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 5, 2009 4:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
really? it's just Lego at his first presser in philly
it doesn’t look that good to me, it’s not that hard to put different caps on his head
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by gdm426 on Nov 5, 2009 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yes it is
how many caps are exactly at that angle? plus if they started from the stl one, notice that they had to reconstruct parts of his face, because the original is riding so low
that’s not just a logo / color change
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 5, 2009 4:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
show's what i know about photshop'n
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by gdm426 on Nov 5, 2009 4:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
sex=diamonds
It must be hard-coded into the firmware.
by _pistol_ on Nov 5, 2009 1:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
God damn De Beers
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Nov 5, 2009 1:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That story is really funny in hindsight, when it's a given that the lady was OK and no permanent damage.
But man that would be scary to go through.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Nov 5, 2009 1:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
After Holliday what other LFer would you want?
A lot of you say Cameron but honestly don’t think he would come to Saint Louis to be a LFer. He is a Center Fielder and I bet he would take a pay cut to stay one.
by FlimtotheFlam on Nov 5, 2009 1:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
are there any good left fielders?
I don’t even know any off the top of my head. granted, I am doing about four different things at once, and without lunch.
in any case, if Fredbird has his van gassed up, we should provide a list.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 5, 2009 1:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Bay's available
If you’re into Canadians.
by mojowo11 on Nov 5, 2009 1:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Last I heard he was close to something like 4/$60m to stay in Boston
I wouldn’t bet on him being available for long.
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Nov 5, 2009 1:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
$15M? For bay?
Sheeeeeeeeeeee-iiiiiiiit.
/Clay Davis.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Nov 5, 2009 1:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
is The Hoff going to be Canadian now?
can’t hassle him, eh.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 5, 2009 1:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
no, there are just good hitters who while away the half-innings they're not at bat in left field.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Nov 5, 2009 1:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Manny occasionally makes good plays
then he just decides not to, for dramatic effect.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 5, 2009 1:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Johnny Damon!!!
I want the Walrus back...
by Paulspike on Nov 5, 2009 2:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If I can't have Cameron, no-one.
I’ll take my chances with Allen Craig. I guess Matt Murton would be a good low-cost option.
Johnny Damon is about the only other guy I’d be interested in but I’m guessing he’d have to be prepared to take a bit of a pay cut and a one-year deal for me to actually want him. I’ve mentioned Abreu before but I really don’t know if he’d be a very good fit, he probably needs to be DHing somewhere. That said, if he’s available for a 1/10m-type deal, he’d fit the bill also.
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Nov 5, 2009 1:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
well, we could tell Damon he can grow his hair however he wants in St. Louis
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 5, 2009 1:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He could go back to looking like a caveman
Then we could test whether or not left field is so easy Johnny Damn could do it.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Nov 5, 2009 1:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
if we lose LaRue
I say go all out with the Fu
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 5, 2009 1:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What's funny about Johnny Damon, to me
is that he reminds me of a younger version of my uncle Johnny. To make them seem even more similar I hope Johnny Damon plays left field on a motorcycle some day.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Nov 5, 2009 1:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
...he doesn't?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 5, 2009 1:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He does play on a motorcycle???
Sign him NAO!!!!
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Nov 5, 2009 2:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah..
The only reason he was taken out from yesterday’s game is because he ran out of gas…
I want the Walrus back...
by Paulspike on Nov 5, 2009 2:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Age does have a deleterious effect on fuel efficiency.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Nov 5, 2009 3:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
boo type A free agents worth less than 4 WAR a year!
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Nov 5, 2009 1:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Just some guys off the top of my head
Jason Bay – If we would sign Bay might as well pony up and sign Holliday
Xavier Nady – Got paid $6.5M last year. Would not want to pay him that much coming off an injury
Gary Sheffield – ????
Randy Winn – Good on D, Offensive numbers make Ankiel look good
Rocco Baldelli – Can’t stay healthy but has upside
Coco Crisp
Andruw Jones – Who knows what you are going to get
Brian Giles – If he would accept a minor league invite. Was to good to fall off so hard but who knows. Look up one
Vladimir Guerrero – Old and broken down
Austin Kearns
by FlimtotheFlam on Nov 5, 2009 1:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So I just looked at the 2011 Free Agent List
it makes the 2010 one look excellent.
by FlimtotheFlam on Nov 5, 2009 1:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
- - Chris Duncan
Somebody had to say it.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Nov 5, 2009 1:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
nice work
although I’m rereading some CDunc “discussion” from July, and, well… what if he heals up completely from his spinal surgery? Take or pass?
I don’t know if that’s a cage match, but it feels like one.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 5, 2009 1:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
before or after dave duncan retires?
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Nov 5, 2009 1:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
oh man, I don't know.
if it’s after he retires, Dave will show up in the seats and yell expletives till he’s tossed
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 5, 2009 1:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No.
Wasn’t needed this season, won’t be needed next. We’ve gone through this stuff once and we don’t need to again. Why even bother suggesting it?
Best moment I've ever seen at a game in person
"If it was Zoom Zoom'd, we'd be doom doom'd" - making fun of myself for my bad luck streak in the 2009 season
Looking forward to Cardinals baseball in 2010!
by zoomzoomj88 on Nov 5, 2009 3:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
because it pisses people off
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 5, 2009 3:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
and it's funny
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by gdm426 on Nov 5, 2009 4:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
On a serious note,
Allen Craig bats right-handed.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
by hazel on Nov 5, 2009 4:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sheff, you say?
Foul-Ball Dingers allllll day!
Right size, wrong shape.
BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
by vexedtechie on Nov 5, 2009 3:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This Cartoon made me laugh so hard, ie Twilight
by FlimtotheFlam on Nov 5, 2009 1:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
nice
this fits nicely into my view of the world
by _pistol_ on Nov 5, 2009 1:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
through the binoculars?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 5, 2009 1:42 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Also awesome.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Nov 5, 2009 2:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ouch.
You need ice for that burn, pistol?
I want the Walrus back...
by Paulspike on Nov 5, 2009 2:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I was just askin'
bunch of stalkers here on VEB
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 5, 2009 2:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
not stalking. watching. always.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
by rocKStark5 on Nov 5, 2009 3:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
this is actually from twilight
“He turned then, with a mocking smile, and I stifled a gasp. His white shirt was sleeveless, and he wore it unbuttoned, so that the skin of his throat flowed uninterrupted over the marble contours of his chest, his perfect musculature no longer merely hinted at behind concealing clothes. He was too perfect, I realized with a piercing stab of despair. There was no way this godlike creature could be meant for me.”
This is actually from a book that people bought.
by DanUpBaby on Nov 5, 2009 1:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
dan....
did you buy this?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 5, 2009 1:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
how do you send that manuscript to an agent?
life as a literary agent must be 90% laughing at/shaking one’s head at manuscripts received. ‘hey, jimmy, check this? “the marble contours of his chest”! “piercing stab” – what, as opposed to one of those gentle, non-piercing stabs?’
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Nov 5, 2009 1:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
a friend has complained about that
basically, the dreck sells, so they print it.
and look where we are now.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 5, 2009 1:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wait...
How do you know this?
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 5, 2009 2:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
this is the best part
one day girlfriendup and I were walking through barnes and noble and I decided to prove—to myself, to her—that it was bad as I felt it had to be. I opened a movie tie-in copy up to a random page and the first words I read aloud were “perfect musculature.” That’s not a selected paragraph—it is chosen completely at random.
by DanUpBaby on Nov 5, 2009 4:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So you memorized it?
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 5, 2009 4:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
you're killing me here. amazon book search
you never forget a perfect musculature when you see one, as bella(?) would no doubt attest.
by DanUpBaby on Nov 5, 2009 4:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well that at least is true.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 5, 2009 4:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
she is a relentless information gatherer
we’re VEB. we leave no stone unturned
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 5, 2009 4:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Just have to make sure.
Those books can ensnare the most reasonable people, mostly female, but sadly boys are not always immune to its terrifying powers.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 5, 2009 4:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I have a couple friends who love the series
One of them reads it and thinks it’s great.
The other one reads it and thinks it’s great comedy.
by mojowo11 on Nov 5, 2009 4:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
can i ask a question about their sexual orientation?
is that allowed? and not just your two friends but the boys cgirly was talking about as well.
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by gdm426 on Nov 5, 2009 4:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Straight.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 5, 2009 4:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Both straight guys
The guy who loves the books is the best poet I personally know and is in the Army.
by mojowo11 on Nov 5, 2009 4:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
uh, how old are they? teens collage age?
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by gdm426 on Nov 5, 2009 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
One that I've heard of was in elementary school.
Then there were some in Middle School. And then some of my friends, so college age.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 5, 2009 4:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
that makes a lot more sense to me then
i’ve been told, i don’t have first hand knowledge of this, but the twlight books are very popular among kids & girls of all ages, women in the later 30’s to mid 50’s & gay men in their 20’s-40’s. again, i don’t personally know this, it’s just what i have been told. i didn’t want to offend anyone or anything so that’s why i am tiptoe’n around this.
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by gdm426 on Nov 5, 2009 4:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Did Danielle Steele write twilight?
Not that I, uhhhh, you know, ever read any of those books or anything. Ummm, my Grandma had a bunch of them and I just looked at the cover and imagined how they’d read….yeah, that’s the ticket.
Ok, damnit, I read exerpts but only for the comedy value.
by Merry CRasmus on Nov 5, 2009 2:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
nothing better than the end of chapters...
in a romance novel. Quivering members and heaving bosoms and….
If you see a guy open the car door for his girlfriend, either the car is new or the girlfriend is.
by cardzfanbub on Nov 5, 2009 3:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This sounds like an Enzyte commercial
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Nov 5, 2009 3:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That's nowhere near close to
the things that go into actual romance novels.
by saladdays on Nov 5, 2009 2:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sigh. People suck.
(Speaking of literature, I just finished Kafka on the Shore last night, Dan.)
by mojowo11 on Nov 5, 2009 3:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
what'd you think?
while in japan one of my favorite sights was the sheer presence of murakami’s new book over there—there are big posters, walls of copies, magazines at the front of newsstands devoted to helping readers understand parts one and two of it. it is impossible to avoid.
by DanUpBaby on Nov 5, 2009 4:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I wasn't blown away by the story -- good, but not great
But I was sad after the book ended because I wanted more of the characters. Kafka was cool and managed to be a conflicted 15-year-old without being an emo 15-year-old — and I loved the Boy Named Crow side of his personality. I also really liked Oshima. But mostly I will miss Nakata, that lovable, slightly crazy old man who talked in the third person and made fish rain from the sky.
As with most of my Murakami experiences, I look back over the plot and think, “If I tried to explain this to someone, I’d sound like I’m on drugs.” But as always, his style completely drew me in and I thought it was a beautiful book.
Dance, Dance, Dance is next, per your recommendation.
by mojowo11 on Nov 5, 2009 4:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh
And I’m jealous of your Japan excursion. I intend on visiting someday, preferably sooner rather than later.
by mojowo11 on Nov 5, 2009 4:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Go.
Seriously. It’s awesome.
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Nov 6, 2009 5:59 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Joseph Conrad
That’s literature.
by Tom_Lawless_Bat_Flip on Nov 5, 2009 8:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Remember Dan Brown?
shudder
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
by hazel on Nov 5, 2009 4:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't even get the Dan Brown lovers started.
Now with extra feisty!
by spants on Nov 5, 2009 6:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i enjoy the plots
not really a lit snob…if the story is entertaining, the language usually doesnt get in my way
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
by VolsnCards5 on Nov 5, 2009 10:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Chock Full of Ick.....
….thanks, Harry Potter, for lowing the bar for literature quality; now the bar is even lower.
:=8/
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
by The MooCow on Nov 5, 2009 4:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
At least the Harry Potter books were written at a third grade level and meant for children.
What’s Dan Brown’s excuse?
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
by hazel on Nov 5, 2009 10:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
A person on another board challenged me saying "I couldn't write a sentence like this"
So I did my best to write a passage just like this one. Tell me what you think:
Mr. Franken turned to the class and asked a question that I barely heard. The corners of Edward’s perfect lips turned up and, like the graceful unfurling of a flag, his arm extended into the air. An inferno swelled in my chest, and I gasped, not able to avert my eyes as his sleeve slipped playfully down over the prominent, silky white, diamond-hard bulges of his tricep, betraying the stallion-like strength hidden inside. His wistful smirk played with his face’s flawless jawline and unblemished skin. My reverie was suddenly broken by the sound of the bell, and the class ended. My heart sank, knowing I would never hear the words that were hidden behind those lips.
Need more commas?
by mojowo11 on Nov 5, 2009 8:04 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I really just laughed out loud. nice.
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
by andi_k on Nov 5, 2009 8:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That was epic.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 5, 2009 9:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So you're saying it needs more commas?
by mojowo11 on Nov 6, 2009 3:31 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm afraid of commas so I wouldn't know.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 6, 2009 10:51 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yup.
That’s how it works. Take note boys. If you are attractive be a stalker, it’s cute. If not, well then, I don’t know what to tell you.
/sarcasm… well only a little…
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 5, 2009 2:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I would say this comic has some truth to it
But it’s important to note, I think, that this would work just as well as a comic with guys talking about girls.
by mojowo11 on Nov 5, 2009 3:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah but there's a subtle difference
Guys would think “that’s creepy and she’s effin weird, but she’s still hot so who cares”
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Nov 5, 2009 4:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
spot on.
those are total hit and quits.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
by rocKStark5 on Nov 5, 2009 4:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Or in Steve Phillips case,
she has a vagina so who cares
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
by hazel on Nov 5, 2009 4:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
oh snap
My halloween costume: the Indiana secondary iPhone- no matter how much you want to love it, you know the coverage area sucks.
-ChronicHoosier
by Taskmaster on Nov 5, 2009 4:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This made me actually laugh
Well played.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Nov 5, 2009 4:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Really?
I was willing to give guys the upper hand on common sense in this case but if you say so.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 5, 2009 4:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I know everybody is the exception and not the rule HOWEVER
“I hate it when boys like fat girls” – super hot friend of mine on Halloween. She looked REDICULOUS in her costume.
add in guys cheat on their girlfriends with girls half as hot as their girlfriends all the time.
Why? well a lot of it is survival and replication spreading the seed blah blah, however, your typical/average guy (no, not you, the other typical/average guys) just simply aren’t used to being pursued. When a girl is forward or has stalker tendencies most guys will think “hey, sex? this is my lucky day”.
The guys that pull the higher value girls will pull what joker24 said above. But if the girl is 100% undo-able she’s a stalker. If she’s hit-able she’s still crazy but we’ll still do it.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
by rocKStark5 on Nov 5, 2009 4:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
whoops forgot:
There’s been studies done and replicated. They throw in a hot girl that just stands there next to a average girl that flirts. The average girl always gets the attention.
/waits for the “shallow” and “personality” arguments. Even though every guy that claims that would cut off their own arm to nail megan-psychobitch-fox.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
by rocKStark5 on Nov 5, 2009 4:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I buy this.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 5, 2009 4:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
for a dollar?
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
by rocKStark5 on Nov 5, 2009 4:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe a quarter.
Poor college student you know.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 5, 2009 4:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We're all shy at heart
Nobody really wants to approach a girl who’s not displaying any level of interest. Doesn’t matter if she’s super-hot. It’s basically asking for rejection.
by mojowo11 on Nov 5, 2009 4:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah. it's programming...
shy isn’t the word for it….most guys are TERRIFIED (myself included) of approaching high value girls.
Our minds are still wired for the tribal days of 100 or so. 1/2 women, throw out the too young, too old, ugly you have 1-2 doable girls.
We botch an approach with one, she tells the other, our genes are weeded out of society forever. OR worse yet, we are successfully and Betty Nuggs boyfriend and friends drop a rock on our head.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
by rocKStark5 on Nov 5, 2009 4:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i have no idea what you just said
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by gdm426 on Nov 5, 2009 4:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
he could write a book, that's all I know.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 5, 2009 4:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
lol donno if you're being sarcastic or not
but either way, these obv aren’t my own thoughts/theories.
I just read a shit ton about it. Social Cognition is just so fascinating.
Right now I’m reading “why women have sex” and um….girls are warped….WARPED!
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
by rocKStark5 on Nov 5, 2009 4:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We think too much.
Or at least I do. And most of my friends.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 5, 2009 4:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
well the warped part...
The research of the book did surveys on thousands of women. They came up with 250-something motivations to have sex….really??
Some where “duh’s” but some ranged into flat out morbid (not an exaggeration, literally morbid).
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
by rocKStark5 on Nov 5, 2009 4:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So what's the answer?
I’m curious to know why I have sex.
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
by IHeartBoog on Nov 5, 2009 5:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm thinking they're real bad so he won't post them.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 5, 2009 5:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yup.
Think “best of craigslist personals” morbid.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
by rocKStark5 on Nov 5, 2009 5:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ewwww
So I guess these are like physical satisfaction-type reasons, and not crazy emotional issues-type reasons?
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
by IHeartBoog on Nov 5, 2009 5:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
okay fine. disclaimer: DONT READ BELOW THIS
some are your typical morally bankrupt things like “i wanted revenge and take her boyfriend”, “i needed a promotion, my way at work, etc”, but the worst I saw was “I wanted to give someone an STD”.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
by rocKStark5 on Nov 5, 2009 5:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
WOW.
Sorry if I coerced you into posting that. I’m not very easily offended.
I’m also not at all suprised by this, because there are really fucking crazy people out there. I am, however, suprised that anyone would admit such a thing to someone who was writing a book about it.
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
by IHeartBoog on Nov 5, 2009 5:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
normally i'm not gunshy on posting anything
but there’s been this holier than thou thing going around here lately.
The STD one reminded me specifically of a “best of craigslist” I heard on the radio one time. The jist was “i want to have as much unprotected sex as it takes to give my husband HIV”
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
by rocKStark5 on Nov 5, 2009 5:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I've heard of guys doing this too.
Gay guys mostly. But still. People are crazy.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 5, 2009 5:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
f'in gdm
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by gdm426 on Nov 5, 2009 5:59 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
hahaha
rec’d
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
by VolsnCards5 on Nov 5, 2009 10:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I used to have Game
Not sure where it went.
by FlimtotheFlam on Nov 5, 2009 5:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the day i moved away from missouri is the day my mojo died
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by gdm426 on Nov 5, 2009 5:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
pray... for... mojo...
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Nov 5, 2009 5:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
when in doubt, blame this guy
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
by rocKStark5 on Nov 5, 2009 5:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
blame a tripod?
Mojo is a helper monkey. but his cholesterol is through the roof.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Nov 5, 2009 5:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Didn't MiniMe steal Austin's mojo?
and wasn’t MiniMe a tripod?
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Nov 5, 2009 6:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ohio stole mine
along with my soul & my will to live
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by gdm426 on Nov 5, 2009 8:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
iowa stole 2 out of the 3 of those from me
I won’t allow it to steal my mojo though
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Nov 5, 2009 8:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i think my mojo fell into the Mississippi
and floated down into the Gulf.
now someone, somewhere way down south has my mojo. i want it back damnit
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by gdm426 on Nov 5, 2009 8:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Geography fail
And, in a related story, this week marked the 5,000th performance of the Broadway musical "Cats." It also marked the 5,000th time a guy turned to his wife and said, "What the hell is this?"
by jd is legend on Nov 5, 2009 9:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
what?
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by gdm426 on Nov 5, 2009 11:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't get this either.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 5, 2009 11:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The Mississippi doesn't run by Ohio
The Ohio River does, and it runs into the Mississippi, but that’s not what you said
And, in a related story, this week marked the 5,000th performance of the Broadway musical "Cats." It also marked the 5,000th time a guy turned to his wife and said, "What the hell is this?"
by jd is legend on Nov 5, 2009 11:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
But he lost his mojo when he left Missouri.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 5, 2009 11:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He said up in the thread that Ohio stole his
And, in a related story, this week marked the 5,000th performance of the Broadway musical "Cats." It also marked the 5,000th time a guy turned to his wife and said, "What the hell is this?"
by jd is legend on Nov 5, 2009 11:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Which is it gdm?
the day i moved away from missouri is the day my mojo died
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by gdm426 on Nov 5, 2009 4:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
ohio stole mine
along with my soul & my will to live
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by gdm426 on Nov 5, 2009 7:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 5, 2009 11:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
it fell out when i crossed the river
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by gdm426 on Nov 5, 2009 11:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
"Who the f*ck still uses a payphone???"
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Nov 6, 2009 12:32 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I believe:
“Our main export is crippling depression” works better here.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 6, 2009 12:33 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That might be the best line of the bunch. The payphone thing just popped into my head
I also like, “here’s a place where there used to be industry”
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Nov 6, 2009 12:38 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
that guy has at least six duis.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Nov 6, 2009 12:39 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The flats look like a Scooby Doo ghost town.
Our economy’s based on LeBron James.
My favorite though: Don’t slow down in East Cleveland or you’ll DIE!
Just reminds of East St. Louis.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 6, 2009 12:41 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Or:
Who knows you might even see this guy.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 6, 2009 12:41 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It really does remind one of St. Louis/East St. Louis
But I guess the same could be said of most once-great industrial midwest type cities.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Nov 6, 2009 12:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
except i'll fucking stab you if you film my haunted factory.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Nov 6, 2009 12:43 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks guys.
I appreciate your concerns.
by mojowo11 on Nov 5, 2009 5:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
you're a helper monkey?
dude, you don’t look so good
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by gdm426 on Nov 5, 2009 5:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
don't get me started *frownie face*
“Game” is so volatile sometimes I see shit like the matrix in little raining green code other times I pull holliday sized errors.
It’s like poker…when you’re running good and the deck is hitting you in the face you feel like you’re unbeatable. When you’re running cold you feel like it’s time to move onto another hobby.
it does make people watching SO much better cause the typical guy is just bad…bad. Just by NOT being “as bad” as the typical guy can get you far enough.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
by rocKStark5 on Nov 5, 2009 5:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Very nice.
Best moment I've ever seen at a game in person
"If it was Zoom Zoom'd, we'd be doom doom'd" - making fun of myself for my bad luck streak in the 2009 season
Looking forward to Cardinals baseball in 2010!
by zoomzoomj88 on Nov 5, 2009 3:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
gotfuckingdamnit
and HFS
no wonder this world gone to hell in a shopping cart. jebuz
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by gdm426 on Nov 5, 2009 4:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dear Ted --
Uh oh. Cubs announce Ted Lilly has undergone arthroscopic surgery on left shoulder. Hendry says he should be ready in April.
Please be aware that April has been arriving in August or early September. I think it’s global warming or el nino or something.
Your friend,
Troy Glaus
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Nov 5, 2009 1:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
always debrided, never a bride
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 5, 2009 1:49 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
you're on a roll today
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by gdm426 on Nov 5, 2009 4:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And here I thought the Cubs' slew of injuries would stop when they stopped playing baseball
Always proving me wrong, those Cubbies.
by mojowo11 on Nov 5, 2009 3:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Chone Figgins
The discussion from up the thread on the spot in front of A-Pu interest has allowed me to finally say something I have been thinking for two months. I want Chone Figgins. I think he’d be a great fit in the 2 spot ahead of Albert. Figgins takes walk(14% last year) and takes bases(42/59 in SB opps, not a good %, but the threat is there). He won’t hit for any power(career ISO of .97, though its been near .150 the last couple seasons). He also plays an above average 3rd base.
I can just envision him getting on base in from of Pujols at a pretty high clip(OBP near .400). If Pujols doesn’t advance him, he can take 2nd via the SB, and let our number 4 hitter drive him to home plate.
He’s 31, so I would not want to give him a long contract, but I 3/30 is reasonable. I have no clue if he’d even consider that, as he was worth over 20M last season according to Fangraphs. The Angels are probably trying to resign him as well, but I see Figgins as a lower cost alternative to Holliday that would improve the offense. Obviously, this is unlikely, and it does not solve the LF situation(Figgins is not a good LF), but I think its at least worth considering.
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
by VolsnCards5 on Nov 5, 2009 2:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think he would want more years
but that’s the right amount money wise. I just don’t know if you can take the steals into account. If Tony has a great guy taht can steal, will he use him?
My halloween costume: the Indiana secondary iPhone- no matter how much you want to love it, you know the coverage area sucks.
-ChronicHoosier
by Taskmaster on Nov 5, 2009 2:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i might be ok with adding a 4th year and a vesting option for a 5th
i considered the issue of tony not using figgins speed, but if albert can steal 15 bases, then figgins can take at least 30
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
by VolsnCards5 on Nov 5, 2009 2:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Tony
I never took him as a guy who tells people to not steal. Doesn’t he give guys the green light to steal?
by ICbirdfan on Nov 5, 2009 2:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
so I was just imagining all the "stop at first, Ryan!"s during the season...?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 5, 2009 2:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
it'd be nice, but there's no way he leaves LA
and the Yankees want him if he does, so throw that salary out the window.
logic & reason are thrown out the window when the Yankee’s get involved
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by gdm426 on Nov 5, 2009 4:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Angels re-sign Abreu to two year deal
per Ed Price’s twitter and mlbtraderumors.com no terms yet
by ubeddie on Nov 5, 2009 3:04 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Aw
And, in a related story, this week marked the 5,000th performance of the Broadway musical "Cats." It also marked the 5,000th time a guy turned to his wife and said, "What the hell is this?"
by jd is legend on Nov 5, 2009 3:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So much for going after Abreu...
Best moment I've ever seen at a game in person
"If it was Zoom Zoom'd, we'd be doom doom'd" - making fun of myself for my bad luck streak in the 2009 season
Looking forward to Cardinals baseball in 2010!
by zoomzoomj88 on Nov 5, 2009 3:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Terms
$9 million in 2010 and 2011, $1 million buy out on option for 2012 which is worth $9 million and vests with a given # of plate appearances.
by mojowo11 on Nov 5, 2009 4:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
wow, that's a really good deal
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Nov 6, 2009 6:51 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
good, and that's the end of that
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by gdm426 on Nov 5, 2009 4:16 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
+ one bijillion
"A great catch is like watching girls go by the last one you see is always the prettiest."- Bob Gibson
by CodyG on Nov 5, 2009 4:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
sometimes the best decisions
are made for you.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
by cardball on Nov 6, 2009 12:59 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Am I the only person who'd be okay with Jermaine Dye
scootchin’ over to LF for us??
BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
by vexedtechie on Nov 5, 2009 3:21 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
mmm as a backup plan
we could probably do worse
by FunkeeC on Nov 5, 2009 3:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yes, yes you are
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by gdm426 on Nov 5, 2009 4:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
dye's value was negative last year, and has been two of the last three (worth 1.7 wins in 2008).
so, aging slugger below replacement value if he’s not having a terrific year at the plate? no, i have no interest. I would rather have allen craig out there.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Nov 5, 2009 4:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
barf. old and broken. I'll pass
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
by andi_k on Nov 5, 2009 7:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps he will get acquired and extended by the Angels so this one can die too.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
by hazel on Nov 5, 2009 10:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The Angels still want a monopoly on ageing can't-field OF sluggers, I think, so this is possible...
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Nov 6, 2009 6:52 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
how many converted catchers do the Cardinals have?
are they cornering the market or something? and then there’s the pitcher who wants to catch. hmmm.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 5, 2009 3:47 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Is this a veiled reference to something?
and then there’s the pitcher who wants to catch.
Future Redbirds - tracking Cardinal prospects for Cardinal Nation
by azruavatar on Nov 5, 2009 3:55 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Son of a bitch
reply fail
Future Redbirds - tracking Cardinal prospects for Cardinal Nation
by azruavatar on Nov 5, 2009 3:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i'm thinking it's a stock reference, not a double entendre.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Nov 5, 2009 4:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
it better be
why would Motte want to catch?
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by gdm426 on Nov 5, 2009 4:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
he almost did
Freese saved him
how soon we forget
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 5, 2009 4:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Just you all wait
Tony and Dave will stretch out Matt Pagnozzi to be our fifth starter in 2010.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Nov 5, 2009 4:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i thought TLR was putting him in, and Freeze jumped in to save him?
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by gdm426 on Nov 5, 2009 4:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I am waiting with bated breath
for Boog to be called to the mound for his slider. (it’s near the end)
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/3007738/brendan_ryan_tours_citi_field/
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 5, 2009 4:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Gotta love Boog
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Nov 5, 2009 5:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I just noticed
that’s a Cardinals team shirt, right?
it says
The more you sweat in training
the less you bleed in battle
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 5, 2009 5:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I love the look on his face when
he’s talking about the possibility of getting thrown in there for mop-up duty. So earnest. It’s adorable.
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
by andi_k on Nov 5, 2009 7:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He really has become one of my favorite Cardinals this year.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 5, 2009 7:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Before this year, I liked him, but now I really, REALLY like him
after watching him do what I had hoped he would do in 2007 when we were originally told he would be our shortstop of the future.
This year he’s finally had a chance to stand out.
The Izturis signing angered me because I wanted Boog to have a chance that year (although I eventually came to like Izturis in the field, but not at the plate)
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
by andi_k on Nov 5, 2009 8:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He was totally sincere, it was awesome
He’d really really enjoy it if Tony made him pitch in a game. You could tell.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Nov 6, 2009 12:35 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I look forward to it.
I bet it’s a slider. I really think it is.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 6, 2009 12:46 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What I really hope
is that he mimes different pitchers’ deliveries, both to mess with the batter and for comedic effect.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Nov 6, 2009 12:48 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
oh man I have chills!
that would be. so. awesome.
if we’re that bad off, I bet Motte could catch him.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 6, 2009 12:49 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Motte could talk to himself at home plate and weird out the hitter
Just imagine… “Well, Dan, I’d say that last pitch was more of a Bob Gibson, but the first three before it looked kind of like Anthony Reyes, Dizzy Dean, and a right-handed Tudor, to me. It’s like making a trade for several Cardinals pitchers of the past, some of whom are retired or dead, without giving anything up, and he’s already on the team.”
“You know Al, it really is.”
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Nov 6, 2009 12:53 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I would pay a bunch of money to see this exact scenario.
I just can’t imagine the batter’s reaction.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 6, 2009 12:54 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
this and ninja baseball
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 6, 2009 1:06 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think the only improvement would be to have VEBers in the booth
Felonius Monk: So now he’s pitching, which is 6ly awesome. Oh yeah, lick that shoulder for me, whore… (unintelligible mumbling)
Dan McLaughlin: You know Felonius Monk, it really… wait, what???
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Nov 6, 2009 1:10 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
as it should be.
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Nov 6, 2009 6:55 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
A lesson from a grammar nazi
"A great catch is like watching girls go by the last one you see is always the prettiest."- Bob Gibson
by CodyG on Nov 5, 2009 5:06 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
this is Cardinals news, it seems
http://twitter.com/MLBSTLCardinals/status/5461158346
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 5, 2009 5:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
also, hahaha, I thought it said " One-Of-A-Kind Holliday Gifts"
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 5, 2009 5:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
?
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Nov 6, 2009 6:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I wake up to see pie... that I can't eat...
you are one evil bastard…
"The Cards lead this game tied 1-1." -Mike Shannon
by ducttape16 on Nov 6, 2009 6:59 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Today's tweet:
Shelley Duncan, son of Cards coach Dave Duncan, named Minor League Player of Year for International League http://tinyurl.com/ydvnwmq
Tomorrow’s tweet:
Shelley Duncan, son of Cards coach Dave Duncan, signed to a minor league contract. http://tinyurl…
MB for LF in 2010!
by guayzimi on Nov 5, 2009 5:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
would much rather have shelley, he can hit in the minors at least
"A great catch is like watching girls go by the last one you see is always the prettiest."- Bob Gibson
by CodyG on Nov 5, 2009 5:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
and he's RH
so at least he might be able to see lefties a tad, hopefully he can even hit them too.
by from First to Third on Nov 5, 2009 5:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
and he's a team player, this I know from the giambi high fives and rays fight
"A great catch is like watching girls go by the last one you see is always the prettiest."- Bob Gibson
by CodyG on Nov 5, 2009 5:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Much more dinger potential
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Nov 5, 2009 5:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ah yes the dinger potential is massive
at 30 he should start to hit his peak.
"A great catch is like watching girls go by the last one you see is always the prettiest."- Bob Gibson
by CodyG on Nov 5, 2009 5:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Shelley >>> Chris
Best moment I've ever seen at a game in person
"If it was Zoom Zoom'd, we'd be doom doom'd" - making fun of myself for my bad luck streak in the 2009 season
Looking forward to Cardinals baseball in 2010!
by zoomzoomj88 on Nov 5, 2009 5:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
has anyone done this before? it would be a total dream for me
"A great catch is like watching girls go by the last one you see is always the prettiest."- Bob Gibson
by CodyG on Nov 5, 2009 5:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I don't know what would be better--that or the Cardinals Cruise
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
by andi_k on Nov 5, 2009 7:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Boog's on the cruise
I think I know your answer.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 5, 2009 7:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm. Is this confirmed? I thought that discussion a few weeks ago was merely speculatory
I would like to add karaoke to my previous choices of shuffleboard and drinking contests as the three things I would most like to do if given the chance to hang out with him (tried to search for that thread but I can’t because
Search and tags are temporarily unavailable.
We should have them back online soon. Sorry for the inconvenience.
f-ing annoying SBN.)
How how do I come up with several thousand dollars in short order? My SO would totally go with me and laugh at me the whole time while calling me a stalker.
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
by andi_k on Nov 5, 2009 8:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
website
but the facebook doesn’t have him
https://secure.mlb.com/stl/fan_forum/cards_cruise.jsp
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 5, 2009 8:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You're making this too easy!
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
by andi_k on Nov 5, 2009 10:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The answer is obvious.
It always has been for me. But Colby isn’t going apparently.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 5, 2009 10:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
see, now I'm not sure, given that the facebook doesn't list him
(or, it didn’t when i glanced at it)
is his training with Big Mac every week until ST?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 5, 2009 10:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He probably should be.
I just went on facebook to check it out and it exhorted me to “poke Colby Rasmus.”
CGirl, I think facebook has us confused.
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
by andi_k on Nov 5, 2009 10:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
"he probably should be"=Brendan Ryan training with Big Mac
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
by andi_k on Nov 5, 2009 10:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
oh because we don't want to confuse that
with poking Colby Rasmus
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 5, 2009 10:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It could easily be construed that way...
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
by andi_k on Nov 5, 2009 10:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
cgirly's just supposed to teach him, not deflower him
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by gdm426 on Nov 5, 2009 11:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
so f'in innocent
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 5, 2009 11:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What?
I was just there! It didn’t say anything about poking Colby!
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 5, 2009 10:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's on my home page
I tried to print screen and convert it to png so you could see it but working in open office is a bitch and I couldn’t block out all the identifying info on my home page.
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
by andi_k on Nov 5, 2009 10:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
here we go
sorry about the horrible edit/resize
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
by andi_k on Nov 5, 2009 11:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That is awesome.
I did not know you could poke him. I am his fan and I have never heard of this.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 5, 2009 11:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You can only poke him if he's your "friend"
I doubt it’s the real Colby Rasmus. However, he is friends with “Brendan Ryan” and “Todd Wellemeyer”
also: (quotes implied from here on)
Brett Wallace
Tyler Johnson
Hmmm… there is also a certain Al*xFritz on his friend list…hee hee
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
by andi_k on Nov 5, 2009 11:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well I searched him and I only got fan pages.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 5, 2009 11:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
There are many Colby Rasmuses in the world apparently.
I call not true. Besides didn’t have a computer a few years ago. If I were to pick one I would pick one that didn’t have a picture for that reason.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 5, 2009 11:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
this is the one I found
Back in February there weren’t as many “Colby Rasmus”es on facebook
But yes—I doubt it’s him.
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
by andi_k on Nov 5, 2009 11:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Probably not.
I don’t think a lot of celebrities have Facebook. They only do Twitter.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 5, 2009 11:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I can't imagine a Boromir Velazquez tweet--
every time he speaks I think of Boomhauer (sp) from King of the Hill
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
by andi_k on Nov 5, 2009 11:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It would be awesome.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 5, 2009 11:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
on top of it
many celebrity twitters are managed by other people, even though it really is ‘them’
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 5, 2009 11:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I am convinced Joakim Soria's tweets are authored entirely by him
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
by andi_k on Nov 5, 2009 11:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And CoCo Crisp's.
I find it very difficult to believe a professional PR person wrote those.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 5, 2009 11:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sweet, adorable examples:
mmm is boring because i am not going to play winter ball because my wife is pregnant and she needs of my care
8:47 PM Oct 25th from web
and
bored because it is not baseball
8:50 PM Oct 25th from web
And his background image says Joakim Soria: Mexicutioner
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
by andi_k on Nov 6, 2009 7:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That's totally awesome
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Nov 6, 2009 7:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Frickin' SBN'ed again!
Curses!!!
Exit thread right…
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Nov 6, 2009 7:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That's totally awesome
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Nov 6, 2009 7:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
digdangoleMegloMart.
Now with extra feisty!
by spants on Nov 6, 2009 3:12 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Haha--it is also informing me that Tyler Johnson and I "haven't talked on facebook lately."
They should have said “ever”
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
by andi_k on Nov 5, 2009 11:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thise suggestions are hilarious.
It asked me once to make someone’s facebook experience better. I felt really bad when I x-ed it out.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 5, 2009 11:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't feel bad;
you’re not responsible for anyone else’s fun time on facebook
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
by andi_k on Nov 5, 2009 11:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You were just thinking it.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Nov 6, 2009 12:36 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, only kinda.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 6, 2009 12:37 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This guy rules
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Nov 5, 2009 5:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
We like sportz
BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
by vexedtechie on Nov 5, 2009 11:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
MLBTR tweet says Hermida to Boston
Holliday can cross Boston off his wish list
Best moment I've ever seen at a game in person
"If it was Zoom Zoom'd, we'd be doom doom'd" - making fun of myself for my bad luck streak in the 2009 season
Looking forward to Cardinals baseball in 2010!
by zoomzoomj88 on Nov 5, 2009 5:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
No way...
they go with Hermida as a starter.
MB for LF in 2010!
by guayzimi on Nov 5, 2009 5:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, i don't think hermida is a substitute for holliday.
really weird move for boston’s first move out of the gate. unless hermida is going to be flipped again as a bit player in a larger trade that’s upcoming.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Nov 5, 2009 6:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I suppose...
he could be insurance. They have a really old and fragile team. He had a good year a couple seasons ago, and he has an extreme home/away split (100 ops points better away).
MB for LF in 2010!
by guayzimi on Nov 5, 2009 6:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
he certainly could be a good insurance player. it's just weird to trade for your backup OF on November 5, yes?
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Nov 5, 2009 7:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe a little strange...
Are they trying to play hardball with Bay? I don’t suppose he’s quaking in his cleats.
MB for LF in 2010!
by guayzimi on Nov 5, 2009 7:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think it's a weird move for them at all
They’ve been mining the “big upside” players for the past couple of years now (like Rocco Baldelli last year). He’s got a tremendous home/away split, so getting him out of Florida and into a better hitter’s park like Fenway could do him some good.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on Nov 6, 2009 8:52 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, he's pretty much replacement level
by vivaelpujols on Nov 5, 2009 7:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Holy crap.
I had no idea Hermida sucked so much. He was such a huge prospect.
Looking at the numbers his plate discipline looks good (I had heard Ben Grieve, but that’s obviously not the case here). He just has no power and sucks at defense.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
by hazel on Nov 5, 2009 10:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
to be fair
he’s still just 25 and in a bad hitters park. He’s a fine 4th OFer.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Nov 5, 2009 11:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And the same thing was said about Ben Zobrist
up until last year.
Future Redbirds - tracking Cardinal prospects for Cardinal Nation
by azruavatar on Nov 6, 2009 9:36 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Considering power is something that many players age into,
and the fact that his defense hasn’t been 2009 bad over his career, he’s a decent buy. I just thought this was a much better buy when I first heard about it.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
by hazel on Nov 6, 2009 10:05 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
From the "sucker born every minute" news dept.
Randy Flores signs with COL.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Nov 5, 2009 6:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Not sure why DGoold mentioned it on Twitter
and I’m not really sure why it was mentioned here. When was the last time Flores and the Cards were mentioned as one?
Best moment I've ever seen at a game in person
"If it was Zoom Zoom'd, we'd be doom doom'd" - making fun of myself for my bad luck streak in the 2009 season
Looking forward to Cardinals baseball in 2010!
by zoomzoomj88 on Nov 5, 2009 6:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
'bout this time last year, probably.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Nov 5, 2009 6:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Marquis "worked out" for them.
Maybe they want the 2006 World Champion pitching staff.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Nov 5, 2009 6:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
fyp
Marquis Lucking into a pitcher having a career year which merely raised him to a league average level and providing him with excellent run support “worked out” for them.
Jason Marquis’ HR/9 (career/09) – 1.10/.63
HR/FB (Marquis career/ Marquis 09) – 11.8%/7.8%
Marquis FIP (Career/09) – 4.82/4.10
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Nov 5, 2009 6:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
holy fuck, british tom
thats why I used quotes.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Nov 5, 2009 11:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
sorry, alex. i knew that you meant it sarcastically. i just felt like drawing it out.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Nov 6, 2009 2:03 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Baseball Blog
Is there another good baseball blog out there. I used to love this one, but it has turned into a freakin’ chat room. I bet less than 10% of the posts on here have any substance and half have nothing to do with baseball.
How about handin' me another helpin' of those mashed taters...thank you very much!
by Elvis on Nov 5, 2009 7:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
So, with no baseball being played
people in a community have decided to talk about something…other than….baseball….?
by Hardcore Legend on Nov 5, 2009 7:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i'm tempted to run numbers on this post and count percentage of comments...
but that might ruin the hyperbole.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 5, 2009 7:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He must really hate me then.
by Tom_Lawless_Bat_Flip on Nov 5, 2009 8:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
that's what she said
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
by cardball on Nov 6, 2009 1:09 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think we've talked more baseball since the Cards lost than before.
We are chatty cathys.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Nov 5, 2009 11:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
and I don't blame you for that, guay.
Best moment I've ever seen at a game in person
"If it was Zoom Zoom'd, we'd be doom doom'd" - making fun of myself for my bad luck streak in the 2009 season
Looking forward to Cardinals baseball in 2010!
by zoomzoomj88 on Nov 5, 2009 7:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not always partial to the chat room style of discussion that happens on here sometimes
But a) this is still the best Cardinals blog you’re going to find and b) it’s the offseason, so it’s not like there’s a whole lot of Cardinals news to talk about.
by mojowo11 on Nov 5, 2009 7:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i'm sure you're not the only one who gets frustrated by off-topic discussions.
on the other hand, neither I nor anybody else wants to be the off-topic police.
the best advice i can give you is to start the baseball discussions; people generally pick up those threads and hold those baseball discussions.
you know, like the bumper sticker says, be the change you want to see on the boards.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Nov 5, 2009 7:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
you can sue for emotional distress
I hear there’s an excellent thread on frivolous law suits a few days back.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
by rocKStark5 on Nov 5, 2009 7:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That was actually related to baseball
and then got off on various tangents. It was a really good discussion though, and is part of the reason why I come here — people are willing to debate and speak their mind.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on Nov 6, 2009 8:55 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
sounds like it's time for elvis to leave the building
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by gdm426 on Nov 5, 2009 8:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I love this.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 5, 2009 11:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
my only regret is i didn't have a csi miami pic to go along with it
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by gdm426 on Nov 5, 2009 11:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
aww, I missed the obvious chance to say
YEEEEAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
by andi_k on Nov 5, 2009 11:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm still not really sure how that meme works.
So I’m going to wait until I really get it. Or maybe I just won’t. I don’t know if I can really pull it off.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 5, 2009 11:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
sounds like it's time for elvis,,,,
to leave the building
get it now?
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by gdm426 on Nov 5, 2009 11:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Anytime you perceive a punchline, just type
YEEEEAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
by andi_k on Nov 5, 2009 11:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sometimes I don't get punchlines.
I may say “YEEEEEAAAHHHHHHH!!!!” like two days later.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 5, 2009 11:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
YEAHHHHH!!!
BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
by vexedtechie on Nov 5, 2009 11:39 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
photoshop master
that was fast.
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
by andi_k on Nov 5, 2009 11:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That's great.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 5, 2009 11:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
y'know, whether or not his comment was ill-advised
I think we’ve crossed over into ganging up on a commenter.
don’t be surprised if y’all get a call from a robot….
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 5, 2009 11:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
for fucks sake
if elvis can’t take a joke then he should take a hike
he threw the first punch, not the other way around. i for one am sick of people popping up every once in a while to bitch about how things are done here. just last week someone got on tom & viva for spelling errors in their first main page posts. who 6ly fucking does that?
i don’t speak for anyone else, but when someone start throwing punches, i tend to punch back
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by gdm426 on Nov 5, 2009 11:48 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
over and over again?
you’re better than that. he hasn’t even come back. what the heck did he do to you besides one comment?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 5, 2009 11:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If I logged onto a website to tell them
I think you suck and ask for a recommendation on where to go for “better” info instead (are there too many AD references? too many thats what she saids? too many night court references? who knows… where just left to be told we’re a fucking chatroom), I would think this response would be overly polite.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Nov 5, 2009 11:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
look, *I* had a problem with his comment
but look at this thread! he’s not here. he’s not answering. you’re piling on somebody who’s not present to defend himself.
I don’t care what the topic is, or how butthurt y’all feel about it, this is not a discussion anymore. it’s 1 comment to 44 comments, and only some of them are talking to the OP. yeah, that’s going to encourage posters to have dissenting opinions.
if it bothers people so much, that’s why the flagging system exists.
and ironically enough, this thread just puts more weight on his comment.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 6, 2009 12:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
he's not present to defend himself
because he’s better than us and made it known rather than just leaving.
He wanted attention before leaving VEB. And he got it.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Nov 6, 2009 12:07 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
that's right. he did.
in which case, good job feeding the troll.
again, I don’t see how this serves VEB at all.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 6, 2009 12:08 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's after 2300 CST
nothing good happens now.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Nov 6, 2009 12:09 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
there's always alcohol
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 6, 2009 12:09 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
those margaritas earlier were good...
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Nov 6, 2009 12:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
and besides
he logged on to have a baseball discussion. which he did above.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 6, 2009 12:05 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
and then he logged on to tell us he is superior to us.
so, rock on, elvis.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Nov 6, 2009 12:09 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
uh, what?
I assumed you were saying he logged on only to talk shit to us. In which case, yeah, I’d fling poo at the guy.
I’m just saying that if you scroll up, he’s… kind of contributing to the baseball discussion.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 6, 2009 12:11 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
he was
and then he started a new thread saying “Is there another good baseball blog out there. I used to love this one, but it has turned into a freakin’ chat room. I bet less than 10% of the posts on here have any substance and half have nothing to do with baseball.”
I don’t know why it went from “hey what of Adam Dunn?” to “You all are beneath me” but it did and I understand the backlash, as I too hate douches.
[meanwhile, both he and an earlier commentor of possible scorn (matt bug) commented with no negative comments against them at all, yet somehow people her get a bad wrap.]
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Nov 6, 2009 12:15 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
of course I think they're a douche
I’m saying we don’t have to be bigger douches when we deal with them.
if they piss off the board enough to fuck with them for hours on end → flag them.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 6, 2009 12:20 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
but that takes away from our passive aggressiveness
and thus, our internet eight inches.
what to do, what to do…
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Nov 6, 2009 12:21 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
oh please
my best lines are passive aggressive
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 6, 2009 12:23 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i was trying to explain it to cgirly because i thought she didn't get it
i wasn’t piling on, i was just replying & responding to andi & cgirly. i wasn’t attacking, i’m not that mad about it.
this seams to happen at least once a month though & that does bother me. i don’t know where people who don’t post regularly get the idea they should have a say in what is talked about. if they hate the comments so much they should stop reading them.
pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels
by gdm426 on Nov 5, 2009 11:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
well I'm just saying there are better ways to deal with it
piling on someone who’s obviously offensive slows down the threads and makes us look ugly. and dumb, besides, especially if they’re trolls.
if they piss y’all off that much, it would save a whole lot of bandwidth if people would just use the flag button.
personally I think the newbs who don’t lurk first can go get bent. but dealing with it like it’s water on a grease fire isn’t going to make them lurk first. I’m not talking one comment. I’m talking dozens.
it’s just going to clog up VEB. and it has. a lot.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 6, 2009 12:19 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Aye. We're all grown-ups here...
BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
by vexedtechie on Nov 6, 2009 12:28 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Speak for yourself poopy face
"The Cards lead this game tied 1-1." -Mike Shannon
by ducttape16 on Nov 6, 2009 12:45 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Shutup, dingle-wad!
BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
by vexedtechie on Nov 6, 2009 8:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I want to be clear I never said he was wrong.
I feel slightly responsible for some off topic stuff but like I said uphread I do TRY to stay on topic because I know it does bother some people. I can see how someone would get annoyed. I don’t think Elvis really meant any harm. I just think he could have said it better.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 5, 2009 11:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Did the site redesign switch the location of rec and flag?
I thought I remembered rec being on the right when you click actions
And, in a related story, this week marked the 5,000th performance of the Broadway musical "Cats." It also marked the 5,000th time a guy turned to his wife and said, "What the hell is this?"
by jd is legend on Nov 5, 2009 11:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
(that should tell you something about how my mind works, all you psychologists out there)
And, in a related story, this week marked the 5,000th performance of the Broadway musical "Cats." It also marked the 5,000th time a guy turned to his wife and said, "What the hell is this?"
by jd is legend on Nov 5, 2009 11:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Earlier today I thought "wait, did azru change his avatar recently or something, it looks different"
I spend a little too much time on this site… talking baseball. And non-baseball too.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Nov 6, 2009 12:45 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think you guys have to be so rude about it
I mean is it so odd that some people want to just read about baseball here? Maybe it was just a honest question poorly worded
Beyond the Box Score
DriveLine Mechanics
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Baseball Think Factory
Hardball Times
by FlimtotheFlam on Nov 5, 2009 11:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, maybe I crossed a line
I wasn’t trying to be mean.
I just thought gdm’s one-liner was funny
And I did admit that I was part of the problem.
Soooo….
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
by andi_k on Nov 5, 2009 11:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Same here.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 5, 2009 11:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I was just commending something I thought was funny.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 5, 2009 11:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
right, because the repeated comments to make the subthread grow and grow and grow
were all about it being funny.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 5, 2009 11:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well some were about me not getting the new meme.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 5, 2009 11:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually rereading it.
To me, it seems they were about the meme. At least that’s how I took it. However I can see how someone could take it as piling on and if that offended anyone I’m sorry. That was not my intent.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 6, 2009 12:16 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
telling people to quit apologizing
is my new “we can’t use a three man rotation in the playoffs” crusade.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Nov 6, 2009 12:18 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
please quit apologizing for having fun.
that goes for everyone.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Nov 5, 2009 11:47 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
sorry fritzy
wait, I wasn’t apologizing. More people need to take up my opinion on apologies on the internet.
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Nov 6, 2009 9:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
A/S/L?
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Nov 5, 2009 11:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I love AOL chat room jokes
And, in a related story, this week marked the 5,000th performance of the Broadway musical "Cats." It also marked the 5,000th time a guy turned to his wife and said, "What the hell is this?"
by jd is legend on Nov 5, 2009 11:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I know. It's all full of comments from people talking about quitting the blog and stuff.
Nothing about baseball.
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Nov 6, 2009 7:03 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm glad I went to sleep early last night without checking VEB.
This is obviously baiting in the worst form. It’s the equivalent of walking up to someone and saying, “We used to be friends but I don’t like you very much anymore. Could you point me to someone you know that I would like to be friends with more?”
Secondly, I think the root of this comment is simply wrong. We still have extended back and forths on the value of metrics, pitch f/x application, potential trades, etc. You’re simply looking for something to whine about.
I don’t want you to stop visiting the site. I don’t want (almost) anyone to stop visiting the site. That said, it’s a community. The conversation can be driven as much by you as by anyone else.
Future Redbirds - tracking Cardinal prospects for Cardinal Nation
by azruavatar on Nov 6, 2009 9:43 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
is it just me, or did the community become really close & tight over the last couple of year?
i could totally be wrong, but it seems to me since sometime in 08 many of the same posters became regulars & a lot more comfortable talking to each other, so that’s why it’s so easy for topics to range from the hard core stat discussions to Colby’s facebook page. it may be that many of the none regulars like elvis feel like they are on the outside looking in about the topics not related to the Cardinals or baseball. i can see how that can be frustrating for them because back in the day the topics almost never were anything but stats, the Cardinals & other baseball related news.
that still does not give elvis or anyone the right to call out the entire community. but i can see how he & others are aggravated that more things are talked about than just baseball, and they are not in on those discussions. i don’t care who you are, no one likes to be on the outside looking in.
pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels
by gdm426 on Nov 6, 2009 5:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Colby's Facebook page has a lot to do with the Cardinals anyway.
And anyone who has a problem discussing all things Colby will have to avoid me.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 6, 2009 5:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The Cards who filed for FA and my opinion on them
Holliday – chance of getting him back is slim to none. Not sure if the trade was really worth it, b/c we traded a guy who could’ve been really good for us in Brett Wallace, but time remains to be seen. I’d love to see him back in a Cardinals uniform like everyone else, but it’s just not gonna happen unless a miracle occurs.
Ankiel – love the comeback story and all that, but he’s gotta go. I was a big supporter of Ank when he first came back to the bigs, and I loved the first homer he hit on the night he came back. I just don’t see what value Ank has now, since he really struggled in 09 and struck out a ton. He’ll probably end up somewhere else, which is hard to imagine, but it will be better for both sides.
DeRo – The Cards have turned their attention to Freese as their starting 3B in 2010, something I just can’t see happening. In my mind, the Cards have to sign DeRo or some other free agent 3B. I could see DeRo back with us or with another team (Cubbies), but I don’t have a real opinion on him b/c he was hurt for the majority of the time. Not really worth the youth of Jess Todd and Chris Perez.
Glaus – Honestly, I would’ve rather had Rolen. I was not much of a Glaus fan. Yes, he helped us, but I just couldn’t get the sight of Rolen starting for us out of my head. Glaus was better than Thurston, but there’s just no chance (or reason) for him to be a Cardinal in 2010.
K. Greene – not worth it. The Padres must not have told the Cards about his anxiety problems in the past, as that plagued him much of this season. The $6.5M went to waste, IMO. With BOOOOG and Julio Lugo platooning SS, I don’t see the Cards trying to sign KBot.
LaRue – I’m not sure what the market is like for FA catchers, but LaRue’s as good a backup as anyone. I wouldn’t mind seeing him back in a St. Louis uniform next year, but I wouldn’t care if he left either.
Smoltz – I would be ecstatic if Smoltzy chose to come back to this ballclub. I thought it was a great move on the organization’s part when they first picked him up, and he’d be a great closer or bullpen guy. I don’t think Smoltz would want a huge contract, but then again, I don’t know what he’d ask for. Considering he liked it here, I think John would be willing to pitch at any price.
Those who haven’t yet filed but probably will:
Welly – The Welly of 2009 was much different than the one of 2008, and I don’t believe he will be in a St. Louis uni again. Really, I’d prefer that he isn’t.
Pineiro – this will be interesting. Honestly, I think DD helped Jo-El with the sinker, and I’d be just fine with Jo-El wearing the Cardinals # 35 in 2010. Really, I think it would be beneficial for the club to get him back. I’m not sure what kind of contract he would command, but I think it would be reasonable.
Feel free to chat amongst yourselves on these players, and to agree/disagree with my views.
Best moment I've ever seen at a game in person
"If it was Zoom Zoom'd, we'd be doom doom'd" - making fun of myself for my bad luck streak in the 2009 season
Looking forward to Cardinals baseball in 2010!
by zoomzoomj88 on Nov 5, 2009 7:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
other options
santa and welly on minor league deals?
holliday and boras are just very competitive people and winning the salary contest is in tgheir blood. on to plan b
holliday, joel, and dero should be offered arb.
i agree on smoltz
kgreene will not likely get anything, maybe not even a minor league deal—sad story
larue = fungible
there are some plan b left fielders out there, but best would require pulling the trade trigger, and we are out of ammo for the most part. murton is intriguing though, but willingham is probably better, but will cost some kind of prospect (freeze if we sign rosy?)
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
by sportsman on Nov 6, 2009 12:07 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If the Cards sign Welley to any kind of deal
I might have to think about boycotting the team in protest
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Nov 6, 2009 9:11 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't mind some sort of incentive deal with Glaus
He’s a perfectly good player if he can stay on the field and avoid any more surgeries so he can actually, you know, get back into playing form.
I would love it if we could get Holliday back in a reasonable affordable deal. Therefore, I’m totally preparing for it not happening.
All the other FAs I’m pretty “meh” about, maybe Piñeiro but he really scares me too.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Nov 6, 2009 12:50 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i am pretty meh about all of them
I like the picks and not paying Holliday stupid money.
by FlimtotheFlam on Nov 6, 2009 12:52 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I'm at the point where I don't know what kind of feasible deal for Holliday is really a good idea
There might not be one. So I’m not going to be shocked if he doesn’t return.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Nov 6, 2009 12:53 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I can't beleive
no one has wished VEB a Happy Guy Fawkes Niten (or Day for that matter)… for shame VEB… for shame…
"The Cards lead this game tied 1-1." -Mike Shannon
by ducttape16 on Nov 5, 2009 7:32 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Just Nite not Niten...
sorry fighting off the bug from hell over here.
"The Cards lead this game tied 1-1." -Mike Shannon
by ducttape16 on Nov 5, 2009 7:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
you contagious, or are we talking demonic insect?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 5, 2009 7:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No one around me is sick...
so take that as you will… I did find the cure to be Chicken McNuggets though for what it’s worth…
"The Cards lead this game tied 1-1." -Mike Shannon
by ducttape16 on Nov 5, 2009 9:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I have figured out in the last two days that vast amounts of tequlia and a little sleep medication will cure the Bacon Lung
you know, if it doesn’t kill you first.
But really, I am feelin’ much better now
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Nov 5, 2009 9:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
tequila is the devil
bourbon on the other hand…
"The Cards lead this game tied 1-1." -Mike Shannon
by ducttape16 on Nov 5, 2009 9:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
scotch works too
really clears out the sinus’s too
pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels
by gdm426 on Nov 5, 2009 11:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
remember remember
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
by VolsnCards5 on Nov 5, 2009 8:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The 20th anniversary of the Berlin Wall falling down is on the 9th.
Just saying… way cooler than some crazy British guy trying to blow stuff up.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Nov 6, 2009 12:55 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Nov 6, 2009 12:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That doesn't look healthy...
you should probably get that checked out.
"The Cards lead this game tied 1-1." -Mike Shannon
by ducttape16 on Nov 6, 2009 12:58 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It might be the angle you're viewing it at
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Nov 6, 2009 12:58 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the angle of the dangle is proportionate to the heat of the meat.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Nov 6, 2009 1:01 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
and this is a baseball site?
come on you guys have to try harder than this.
"A great catch is like watching girls go by the last one you see is always the prettiest."- Bob Gibson
by CodyG on Nov 6, 2009 1:03 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's the offseason...
We’ve really got nothing better to do for awhile…
"The Cards lead this game tied 1-1." -Mike Shannon
by ducttape16 on Nov 6, 2009 1:05 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
than it's time for some .gifs
"A great catch is like watching girls go by the last one you see is always the prettiest."- Bob Gibson
by CodyG on Nov 6, 2009 1:07 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
look below
"A great catch is like watching girls go by the last one you see is always the prettiest."- Bob Gibson
by CodyG on Nov 6, 2009 1:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I have this sudden urge to ride the Screamin' Eagle
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Nov 6, 2009 1:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
and more
"A great catch is like watching girls go by the last one you see is always the prettiest."- Bob Gibson
by CodyG on Nov 6, 2009 1:14 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
one last Gif to wrap it up for the night
"A great catch is like watching girls go by the last one you see is always the prettiest."- Bob Gibson
by CodyG on Nov 6, 2009 1:16 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Mind = blown
I’ve seen that optical illusion before, but this might be the best version I’ve ever seen.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Nov 6, 2009 1:18 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Whoa.
It took me until the second time because I was afraid something was going to jump out at me. But then it was awesome.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 6, 2009 10:54 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
you can't use reddit!
I’m a mind reader(that’s how i know)
"A great catch is like watching girls go by the last one you see is always the prettiest."- Bob Gibson
by CodyG on Nov 6, 2009 1:18 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
thats what she said.
the whore.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Nov 6, 2009 1:07 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I know what the memo said, okay? I wrote the memo.
You’re wearing shorts and a half-shirt.
And, in a related story, this week marked the 5,000th performance of the Broadway musical "Cats." It also marked the 5,000th time a guy turned to his wife and said, "What the hell is this?"
by jd is legend on Nov 6, 2009 10:55 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
no, that would be me
pay moar attention JD!
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Nov 6, 2009 11:15 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
don't tell rally penis what to do.
East Germany gave him the drip and he’ll live with it.
Happy ’versary, Berlin.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Nov 6, 2009 12:59 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'll bet it was worth it too
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Nov 6, 2009 1:00 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
EW
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Nov 6, 2009 12:58 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
that's what she said
"A great catch is like watching girls go by the last one you see is always the prettiest."- Bob Gibson
by CodyG on Nov 6, 2009 12:59 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well played.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 6, 2009 12:59 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Glaus was signed by Baltimore
1/5
No link.
by vivaelpujols on Nov 5, 2009 7:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
no! SHIT!! that's awesome!
you do realize we now get the type B pick without having to risk arb! awesome!
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Nov 5, 2009 7:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That is awesome
Wow, we got lucky there
by FlimtotheFlam on Nov 5, 2009 10:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs