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Around SBN: Post-UNC Thoughts

Keeping the Seat Warm

I have nothing uniquely insightful to post today so this is more of a holdover until/unless someone else chimes in. 

This World Series has been interminably boring.  I detest 3 hour 30 minute games.  I've watched AJ Burnett with envy for the last few years wondering if the Cardinals regret not being able to seal that signing in 2006.  Last night was certainly a catastrophe for him but he's been a very good pitcher (when able to take the mound).

There's a small part of me that wonders if the Cardinals wouldn't have been better served with Cliff Lee than Matt Holliday.  There's a confirmation bias that is hard to avoid in evaluating that situation and more pitching may not have dispelled the fact that we simply couldn't hit our way out of a paper bag but it seems like a reasonable question especially when looking at 2010.

If the Cardinals can't sign Matt Holliday, would it be prudent to re-sign Joel Pineiro?  I have no idea what kind of money he's going to be offered and the Cardinals already have some significant dollars locked up in their starting rotation.  Also, I'm not sure I've fully recovered from my revulsion of the first Pineiro contract.

Also, Tuesday threads are .gif free threads.  Enjoy!

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.gif free is the way to be!

Chicago Cubs: The first century was funny...this second one is just sad...

by nomar34 on Nov 3, 2009 12:01 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

With this new format,

the .gif’s that were put in here will probably represent Lego renderings of the pictures anyway.

It is just me, or does it seem like we’ve reverted from a stylish, well-designed format to a unicode, non-rich text disaster?

"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller

by fourstick on Nov 3, 2009 12:03 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

SBN weren't broke, but they went and they fixed it anyway.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Nov 3, 2009 12:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

shit, this is a NEW FORMAT?!

I just thought sbn had technical difficulties. I’m not joking.

Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008

by Felonius_Monk on Nov 3, 2009 1:11 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Try Yadi's Stylish edits.

Makes it SO much better.

by spants on Nov 3, 2009 1:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That is exactly what I thought.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Nov 3, 2009 1:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I love this new style, myself.

It’s much cleaner, much more visually appealing.

by mynameistyler on Nov 3, 2009 3:25 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Well-played.

Now with extra feisty!

by spants on Nov 3, 2009 6:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

very well-played

Best moment I've ever seen at a game in person
"If it was Zoom Zoom'd, we'd be doom doom'd" - making fun of myself for my bad luck streak in the 2009 season
Looking forward to Cardinals baseball in 2010!

by zoomzoomj88 on Nov 3, 2009 6:36 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That was truly amazing...

you earned yourself a rec for that. Keep up the good work.

"The Cards lead this game tied 1-1." -Mike Shannon

by ducttape16 on Nov 3, 2009 7:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Tom_Lawless

Should change his name to TWSS or something like that, since he is the king of TWSS’s.

Best moment I've ever seen at a game in person
"If it was Zoom Zoom'd, we'd be doom doom'd" - making fun of myself for my bad luck streak in the 2009 season
Looking forward to Cardinals baseball in 2010!

by zoomzoomj88 on Nov 3, 2009 9:24 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

or just Tom_laWleSS

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on Nov 3, 2009 9:24 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I stand corrected from my comment a few weeks back...

he’s obviously the master of That’s What She Said on VEB… the rest of us are just fighting for 2nd place.

"The Cards lead this game tied 1-1." -Mike Shannon

by ducttape16 on Nov 3, 2009 9:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I would like to Thank all the little people.

It was never easy for me. I was born a poor black child. I remember the days, sittin’ on the porch with my family, singin’ and dancin’ down in Mississippi.

by Tom_Lawless_Bat_Flip on Nov 4, 2009 6:04 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't have too big a problem with it

I mean, the whiteness doesn’t bother me as much as it seems to bother some people. I just don’t think it’s as good or visually pleasing, and I have to assume that the redesign was a mostly utilitarian one.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Nov 3, 2009 3:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

red and black pixels are getting really expensive, guys.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on Nov 3, 2009 3:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Apparently!

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Nov 3, 2009 3:34 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

also the letters "x" and "m", so if you guys could avoid using them for . . . maybe the next month?

sorry, you’re just going to have to cope with regular FIP, not xFIP.

we’ll reassess after the new year.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on Nov 3, 2009 3:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

What about "w"?

I’m not sure if SBN could absorb a month’s worth of no wOBA.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Nov 3, 2009 3:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

But our on base averages NEED weighting!!!

"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus

by hazel on Nov 3, 2009 4:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

What do they want us to do, us OPS???

Is this the Dark Ages??? I’m not going back to OPS for you, SBN!!!

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Nov 3, 2009 4:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That's not America!

That’s not even Mexico!

Here comes the funcooker!

by the red baron on Nov 3, 2009 4:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

One thing...

that I noticed for me was a surprisingly long load time for the site for individual items. I would have to wait til everything was loaded before I could start scanning through the comments and that would take quite a surprising amount of time on school computers, for one. The time it took to load each blog (especially this one and Arrowhead Pride specifically, not so bad with St Louis Game Time or Blog-A-Bull) could have played a factor? It’s lickity-split with this new format.

by mynameistyler on Nov 3, 2009 3:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

load time is almost entirely determined by # of comments in my experience

but if you need something really snappy, you can head to the mobile site at mobile.vivaelbirdos.com

No comment tracking, but it loads quickly

by brackenthebox on Nov 3, 2009 3:50 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It's taking forever for me too.

And even on things with only 2 comments. It may just be my internet.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Nov 3, 2009 4:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, likewise.

It’s not the comments so much, but all fo these ads and all of these random images that they have to have on the site. It was just so bogged down.

by mynameistyler on Nov 3, 2009 4:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh I meant the new format was taking longer.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Nov 3, 2009 4:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It seems to be loading really, really slowly for me today as well.

It’s actually getting to the point my typing is beginning to lag.

Here comes the funcooker!

by the red baron on Nov 3, 2009 4:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Really?

Huh. That’s weird. I’m on my DSL at home and my still very good laptop, and it’s like molasses creeping uphill on a pane of glass.

Here comes the funcooker!

by the red baron on Nov 3, 2009 4:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i'm spants and i'm awesome

jd is legend for Cardinals' closer 2010!!

by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 3, 2009 4:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Boosh!

And rec’d.

Here comes the funcooker!

by the red baron on Nov 3, 2009 4:34 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

rec'd for using Boosh!

GOB, I do love the Boosh!

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Nov 3, 2009 5:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

please give fang his testicles back.

they may be able to reattach those.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on Nov 3, 2009 4:34 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

They might but they might not work the same.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Nov 3, 2009 4:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

that was unexpected

jd is legend for Cardinals' closer 2010!!

by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 3, 2009 4:34 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Awesome.

And a rec for you as well.

Here comes the funcooker!

by the red baron on Nov 3, 2009 4:34 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

What are you doing in la-bor-a-to-ry, woman?

Dexter and Dee-Dee

I was reading about how countless species are being pushed toward extinction by man's destruction of forests. Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us. - Calvin, Scientific Progress Goes "Boink", Watterson

by Solanus on Nov 3, 2009 4:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm going to be randomly shouting this out now

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Nov 3, 2009 4:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Nice.

Now that was a spants spanking.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Nov 3, 2009 4:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

13 recs people? really? come on.

jd is legend for Cardinals' closer 2010!!

by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 4, 2009 1:14 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

nah

I made it 14

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Nov 4, 2009 1:38 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

16!

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Nov 4, 2009 7:40 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

works great for me, too

and I’m on a horrifically bad network.

But then again, the internet seems to run really well and hang up really badly in very different ways with mac users as compared to everyone else.

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Nov 3, 2009 4:34 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That is true.

Here comes the funcooker!

by the red baron on Nov 3, 2009 4:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

And I swear that SB nation was optimized for safari

for whatever insane reason.

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Nov 3, 2009 4:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Really?

Huh. I may have to try Safari out. I have it, but I never use it for anything. But if you say it appears to work SBN better, I’ve gotta check it out for myself.

Here comes the funcooker!

by the red baron on Nov 3, 2009 4:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It always runs a lot more cleanly there

heavy comment threads would make Firefox crash, and safari would work just fine. It is odd.

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Nov 3, 2009 4:40 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

safari sucks

jd is legend for Cardinals' closer 2010!!

by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 3, 2009 4:40 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not a fan

but it runs sbnation really well for some odd reason. Or at least it does on my laptop.

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Nov 3, 2009 4:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

that's annoying

i hate everything about safari too. but i just may have to try it out.

jd is legend for Cardinals' closer 2010!!

by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 3, 2009 4:43 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

*observes that google finally released mac chorme*

goes and downloads chrome

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Nov 3, 2009 4:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

me too

maybe it works better in chrome…

jd is legend for Cardinals' closer 2010!!

by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 3, 2009 4:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm having no problems

Quick connection, Firefox.

by mojowo11 on Nov 3, 2009 4:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Needs Cow Splotchs...

;=8)

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Nov 3, 2009 4:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

All red and white.

Large logo top right, some black here and there. Red down both sides and white column down the middle.

Here comes the funcooker!

by the red baron on Nov 3, 2009 3:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I remembered the red and white.

Forgot the logo switched sides.

by spants on Nov 3, 2009 3:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Logo didn't switch sides.

I just typed the wrong direction.

Here comes the funcooker!

by the red baron on Nov 3, 2009 3:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I do kind of miss the old format

But the original massive redesign was really cool, especially the increased functionality in the threads themselves. This one just seems like an afterthought.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Nov 3, 2009 3:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The functionality updates were really cool.

I’ve never much cared for the look, though. I always thought it just cluttered things up a bit. I don’t know, maybe I’m just one of those people who always likes things the way they were better than the way they are.

Here comes the funcooker!

by the red baron on Nov 3, 2009 4:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Ballplayers in my day didn't make errors or hit their wives, ever.

And Mickey Mantle’s home runs were each 700 feet long!. Lefty Grove once pitched a complete game two days in a row, and the second one was right-handed.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Nov 3, 2009 4:03 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Sassy?

Fun? Moxie? AWESOME?

by spants on Nov 3, 2009 4:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

No more drinks for you.

I’m cutting you off.

by spants on Nov 3, 2009 4:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, come on!

Not cool, spants. Not cool. And I was just getting ready to dance on a table, too!

Here comes the funcooker!

by the red baron on Nov 3, 2009 4:09 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I knew you wre up to trouble when you put the lampshade on

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Nov 3, 2009 4:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

In some parts of town,

that’s referred to as a “magic Aaron”. It’s related to the A-Train, but much more popular.

Here comes the funcooker!

by the red baron on Nov 3, 2009 4:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think you mean rhymes with kitchen.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Nov 3, 2009 4:09 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Nice.

Here comes the funcooker!

by the red baron on Nov 3, 2009 4:09 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Nice

Thrice!

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Nov 3, 2009 4:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

umm, how about

this thread?

man, i got chills.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on Nov 3, 2009 4:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I was at the Hooters downtown when this was happening

After they won it I went sprinting and screaming through the streets and eventually into the stadium, hugging random people and jumping up and down like an insane person.

by mojowo11 on Nov 3, 2009 4:09 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Wow

it’s amazing to me that World Series game 5 open thread only had 524 comments! We went through that many in a couple innings this postseason! Oh how the populations of VEB have changed!

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Nov 3, 2009 4:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

offseason sucks

jd is legend for Cardinals' closer 2010!!

by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 3, 2009 4:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

the old system also required a lot more

‘refresh’ ‘check for comments’ ‘refresh’ ‘comment’ ‘refresh’-action.

It made it a lot hardr to post a TON of comments like you can now.

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Nov 3, 2009 4:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

understandable

this comment tracking they have now is top-o-the-line!

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Nov 3, 2009 4:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

why did we use a message board from 1995 in 2006?

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Nov 3, 2009 5:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm with you.

I also liked the fact that is was with OUR team colors.

. . . and not the Yankees . . .

On with the (good) youth movement!

by aet15 on Nov 3, 2009 7:42 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, this is just awful.

Suddenly the place looks like a blog from 1998. Only without the all-over flaming skull background.

Here comes the funcooker!

by the red baron on Nov 3, 2009 1:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Ohhhhhhhh, that'd be sweeeeeeeeeeeeeettttttttt.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Nov 3, 2009 1:43 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

As a lark, they should re-design all of SBN to look like MySpace for a day.

I’d keep the flaming skull background and have the front page automatically play songs by My Chemical Romance and Panic at the Disco.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Nov 3, 2009 1:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

blink tag! blink tag!

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 3, 2009 1:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

We totally need a pair of flame applets!

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Nov 3, 2009 4:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I was thinking that SBN was having tech issues

but unfortunately this is their “new” look. Old look FTW!

Best moment I've ever seen at a game in person
"If it was Zoom Zoom'd, we'd be doom doom'd" - making fun of myself for my bad luck streak in the 2009 season
Looking forward to Cardinals baseball in 2010!

by zoomzoomj88 on Nov 3, 2009 6:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

messing with stylish

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2108

still trying to customize the nesting to SBN. can anyone help? I can’t remember how to write out the long, long string of CSS (so it’ll only do it to SBN and nowhere else)

here’s a screenshot of the info, the top left

click

….damn, I did actually have something cool to post, but this layout thing ate my break, and now I have to do this civic duty shit. /politics.

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 3, 2009 12:08 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

and for the record, that's a png.

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 3, 2009 12:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for posting this.

Very helpful. All that white was hurting my eyes.

by spants on Nov 3, 2009 1:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yw

I’m still hoping someone will come along and clean my css. I’m what you call a sloppy coder.

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 3, 2009 1:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

just realized you can't read that linked pic

here:
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/7701/veblayoutchangenov09sty.png

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 3, 2009 2:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yo yadi2, can you shot me off an email explaining this a little more?

i’ve dl’d stylish, but all i want to do is make the background darker than you have it & not do the other changes as well. and do you or anyone else know if iron or chrome has a similar add on?

pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels

by gdm426 on Nov 4, 2009 9:25 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

no clue on iron or chrome

but which background? the blue narrow part or the overall background?

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 5, 2009 8:26 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i'd like to make the white background gray like the sides are

and maybe the gray sides a darker gray

pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels

by gdm426 on Nov 5, 2009 3:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

change EFEFEF to C3C3C3 for the former

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 5, 2009 9:40 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

alright i've been messing with this for a while now & it's still not working

i wrote everything out like the pic, and still nothing. ugh

pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels

by gdm426 on Nov 6, 2009 3:01 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

nothing-nothing, or no changes you wanted?

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 6, 2009 9:34 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

nothing nothing

every things the same. i 6ly worked on this for hours last night, i was up till 4am messing with this. apparently there’s a damn good reason why i don’t write computer code

pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels

by gdm426 on Nov 6, 2009 5:40 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think it's worth taking a run at Joel

He’s mechanically cleaner than most of the alternatives.

by thepainguy on Nov 3, 2009 12:10 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

and he is making cliff lee money or is it vice versa?

amazing

"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension

by sportsman on Nov 3, 2009 8:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Roster

This is the problem with the Kyle Lohse signing, as noted by LB when the Halladay rumors were flying like hotcakes. Giving a pedestrian pitcher like Lohse the contract we gave him essentially precludes us acquiring another top-of-the-rotation type of starter. Wouldn’t it have been better to let fresh-of-a-career-year Lohse walk and then try to fill that hole with someone like Halladay, Peavy, Vasquez, or Lee, who would make similar money, but for less years? I would say so, but that’s just my opinion. I’ve been a fan of keeping powder dry when blowing powder up involves overly long and overly expensive signings of underwhelming pitchers of the middle-to-back-of-the-rotation variety.

For my money, the Cliff Lee acquisition was the best acquisition of the season, especially because Philly didn’t have to surrender Happ. Of course, after Game 1, it’ll cost the Phils $100MM to keep him pitching under the neon glow of the faux Liberty Bell (if they attempt to extend him while the October performance iron is still hot), a cost not far off in dollars from Holliday.

As for Pinata: no, no, a thousand times no. I have no faith whatsoever in his ability to continue channeling Christy Matthewson—and not just because of his end of the season and postseason. He will be overpriced in years and dollars. Because of this, I’d much rather see some scrap heap gambling going. Say to the tune of 2 FAs with high upside. My number one choice is Smoltz. My number two choice is Penny. The ever-lurking Ben Sheets is palatable, as well.

If we cannot sign Holliday, I wouldn’t mind throwing some of that money at a power arm for the ’pen. A player I have always despised, primarily because of his employers—Billy Wagner—is very high on my list, not the least because he only costs money and no draft picks.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Nov 3, 2009 12:18 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Lee has an 8M option for 2010

Holliday might have been about the same as Lee this year, but that 8M option for 2010 makes Lee unquestionably a better acquisition.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Nov 3, 2009 12:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Absolutely

But, I think the Phils will extend him this offseason, swallowing up the option in a five-year, $100MM monster contract.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Nov 3, 2009 12:42 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn't think so

They’d be guaranteeing basically an extra 4 years at 23M per. They could win his services if he hit free agency for 4/92. If Lee turned down 5/80 (4 years at 18 per guaranteed) I’d be surprised. I certainly wouldn’t want to risk 80M on an arm injury—-see Webb, Brandon.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Nov 3, 2009 12:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That's a good point.

I still think an extension is a real possibility. Maybe they will incorporate the option into it.

Who is Lee’s agent?

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Nov 3, 2009 1:50 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Lee's agent

Darek Braunecker

Who also represents AJ Burnett.

by Hal Laniers Pants on Nov 3, 2009 2:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

what if we'd gotten Lee instead of DeRosa?

would we be able to live with the roundabout at third base?

I mean, I don’t think anyone could’ve foreseen the wrist thing.

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 3, 2009 12:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think it was an either Lee or DeRosa proposition.

The cost of acquiring Lee was much more than DeRosa. I think we only had enough pieces to acquire either Holliday or Lee. I think that the DeRosa and Holliday trades were clearly meant to win the division. The Lee trade was made to win a World Series and it’s a good thing the Phils have him because Cole Hamels would be a happy camper right about now were it not for Lee.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Nov 3, 2009 12:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

so we didn't have enough eggs for the store?

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 3, 2009 12:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think so.

But, I don’t know that for a fact. Who was left that would have satisfied the Indians? After all, look at what they extracted from Mo for DeRosa.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Nov 3, 2009 1:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

the Indians just seemed inexplicable

they said they weren’t blowing it up, and then they… blew it up.

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 3, 2009 2:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The management overestimated how much money they had

They were something like 16 million in the red before the Lee and Martinez deals.

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-ChronicHoosier

by Taskmaster on Nov 3, 2009 4:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

holy ... wow.

I didn’t know it was that extensive

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 3, 2009 4:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

SIGN JOHNNY DAMON

I want the Walrus back...

by Paulspike on Nov 3, 2009 12:25 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

All my cousins are Yankee

And by all I mean 5! of them that constantly give me crap about the Cards. Anyways, they say it is not likely that Damon will re-sign until testing the FA market. He is a solid hitter, provides some pop out of the #2 hole and some speed. He has consistency- his past recent seasons have oscillated around .285, with 20 HRs- and has at least 500 ABs in his last two seasons. I say a two year contract wouldn’t be the worse thing

I want the Walrus back...

by Paulspike on Nov 3, 2009 1:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

an agreeable alternative, should Holliday take a different deal

I think a Damon/Abreu type signing, if and only if it is a short term investment at 10mil/less (1 or maybe two years only). I don’t think that would be a possibility, but an OPS like that hitting in front of Albert would be great.

I just want to make sure we’d be in position to make Crawford an offer after 2010 or someone else like Jason Werth or Brad Hawpe.

with that type of signing, 1 or 2 upside pitchers (I read Smoltz, Penny, Sheets, etc.) are an option, with a potential bullpen arm as well.

Stupid Sexy Flanders!!!

by timmycardinals on Nov 3, 2009 2:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Damon and Abreu are horrible fielders

You know how on RBI baseball, you can press A plus direction to throw to a base and and B plus direction to run to a base?

Well, if Damon was in RBI baseball, it wouldn’t matter. He can run to the base faster than he throws it to the base.

by SouthsideCardsFan on Nov 3, 2009 2:24 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yes, I do know they suck ass in the field

but then again, Craig isn’t exactly going to be Colby-like in LF either. So, why not go with someone I know can get on base and score runs in front of the Mang.

Stupid Sexy Flanders!!!

by timmycardinals on Nov 3, 2009 2:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Hahaha

That is an awesome way to put it.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Nov 3, 2009 2:34 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Damon's not that bad

he just has an awful rep due to his noodle arm.

Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008

by Felonius_Monk on Nov 3, 2009 5:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I Brought This Up Perviously....

….in case we can’t sign Holliday. We’d need a good SP to go with him though.

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Nov 3, 2009 4:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

perviously? really?

“911, what’s your emergency? . .. you’re where? . . . i’m sorry, a what? . . . a cow? . . . he did. . . you’re saying that a cow pulled up in a car, asked you for directions, and then exposed his udder to you? sir, I think you need to stop drinking.”

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on Nov 3, 2009 4:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

U'd Be Surprised...

….what a mild-mannered cow might do udder the influence of fermented moo juice…
;=8)

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Nov 3, 2009 4:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That's no udder

Male cows don’t have udders, all evidence (see “Barnyard”) to the contrary

I was reading about how countless species are being pushed toward extinction by man's destruction of forests. Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us. - Calvin, Scientific Progress Goes "Boink", Watterson

by Solanus on Nov 3, 2009 4:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Actually it wouldn't be a male "cow".

Male bovine, but not a male cow. Pretty sure ol’ Ferdinand wouldn’t care for being called a cow.

Sorry for the anal rant. Couldn’t help myself.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Nov 3, 2009 4:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

mattybobo, i sent an email

no, not you, matty. the other matty.

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 3, 2009 12:24 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I just now checked it

I got the e-mail, but I think you may have forgotten to attach it?

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Nov 3, 2009 1:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

ah

that was purposeful. an opportunity to refuse in a civilized intertubes way. let me see if cut and paste will cooperate…

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 3, 2009 1:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Okie Dokie

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Nov 3, 2009 1:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

BTB has their WARs up

this lovely summation

Twins and Cards the most Negative WAR for playoff teams
Pujols and Mauer will make up for a lot of Alexi Casillas and Khalil Greenes.

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 3, 2009 12:27 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

they were an error-making factory

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 3, 2009 1:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Joel is a waste of resources

resign Smoltz and hope for the best with a 1 or 2 of Garcia, Hawk or Boggs.

Because, truthfully, unless the fix the problems at 3B and LF and hope that Skip/Boog maintain their acceptable offensive levels, there is no sense in screwing up 2011 just to get by in 2010.

by Hardcore Legend on Nov 3, 2009 12:30 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Oh, and still

anyone have a torrent for last night’s game in HD. I’d love to watch a copy on my TV.

by Hardcore Legend on Nov 3, 2009 12:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

What's coming in 2011 to get excited about?

Several of our current core players will be more expensive, and there’s not a lot of impact youngsters on the horizon IMO. Garcia might be more mature, but Ottavino still looks a long shot, I don’t think Craig/Freese/Mather are going to be that much better in 2011 than they are in 2010, and the only arm who might be ready to be a plus in the pen by then is Sanchez, and he’s still some way off (and, realistically, has only had one year of very good performance in the minors). All the guys from this year’s draft will still be a way off the majors.

At the start of this year, most of us were targetting 2010 as being “the” year when our confluence of factors would coincide to give us our best chance of winning everything, especially given Carpenter is currently fit (which is by no means a given going forward). I don’t really see how we’re going to be better by shelving the “win now, without crippling the farm too much” attitude and playing for 2011, where there doesn’t seem to be anything on the horizon suggesting we’ll be any better in that year.

I don’t particularly yearn for Pineiro either, mind you, so I agree on that count, but I think if we ARE going to make any big moves, 2010 is as good a time as any.

Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008

by Felonius_Monk on Nov 3, 2009 1:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Making a move like Pineiro just to maintain status quo

in 2010 will hurt us in 2011, 2012, 2013, etc. The same way the Lohse contract will hurt us this year worse than it did in 2009.

by Hardcore Legend on Nov 3, 2009 2:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

lohse = mo panic

don’t want to see it again with holliday

players are like cars
10% better = 2x as expensive

"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension

by sportsman on Nov 3, 2009 9:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

What the heck is Girardi doing?

With a 3 games to 1 lead, you set up your last three starters to start on 3 days’ rest?

6ly?

by SouthsideCardsFan on Nov 3, 2009 12:36 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Tim McCarver thinks it's the right decision.

After all, nobody’s arm is going to fall off or anything.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Nov 3, 2009 12:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

until it does.

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 3, 2009 12:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think anyone's arm is going to fall off

I just think they aren’t going to be very good.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Nov 3, 2009 12:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I was joking.

I agree. It’s a dumb decision. CC has some sort of track record of being good on limited rest, even if he did eventually crash and burn at the bats of the Phillies in last year’s NLDS. But, why do it with Burnett and Pettite? I don’t get it.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Nov 3, 2009 1:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Especially with those shiny contracts for C.C. and Burnett

You’d think even the Yankees would be more careful with that many years and dollars committed to those two. Is it really a good idea to put them in a position where they’ll probably perform badly and maybe risk injury? (I have no idea what the data actually says about short rest and injury risk, but I can’t imagine that short rest is good for your arm)

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Nov 3, 2009 1:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Have to agree

Is Gaudin or even Joba that much worse than a short rested Pettitte and/or Burnett?

My halloween costume: the Indiana secondary iPhone- no matter how much you want to love it, you know the coverage area sucks.
-ChronicHoosier

by Taskmaster on Nov 3, 2009 4:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Arbitration only for Joel

Joel will be looking for a three or four year deal to provide financial security. The “breakout” season gives him the best opportunity his career will ever see to get that type of contract. The Carp/Lohse contracts have essentially taken up the ability to sign another big name FA arm to more than a one year deal until 2012.

Also, imo, the recent economic woes will cause a pendulum swing in the free agent & 3rd year arbitration eligible markets. Names like Holliday and Lackey won’t be impacted, but Ben Sheets probably won’t be seeing a three year deal. Non tenders to 2nd & 3rd yr arb eligible players will probably rise (see ya Puppy Kicker) and teams will fill out the roster with the league minimum instead of the $2.5 mm veteran (Thurston vs Miles).

by ubeddie on Nov 3, 2009 12:39 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

You actually think this series has been boring?

I don’t like either team and the ridiculous mound visits are tiring and I hate the extended commercial breaks between innings…BUT I the games have been good. Games 1 and 2 had masterful pitching performances, Game 4 was another nail-biter. Even last night, the Yankees made the game interesting. Game 3 has been the only one that bored me. There have been great individual performances (Lee, Burnett, Utley). I mean, I don’t ask too much more out of a World Series that involves teams that I don’t like.

http://www.fivetoolfans.com

by mykalmorgan on Nov 3, 2009 12:40 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

frankly I would enjoy it more if there weren't a convention at the mound every ten seconds.

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 3, 2009 12:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, that would make it more enjoyable.

But, for me for all of the reasons I mentioned and more, the baseball has been intriguing despite the “2 many mound visitz OMG!” subplot. Imagine if Pudge Rodriguez were playing for either of these teams. He talks to his pitchers like this in the regular season.

http://www.fivetoolfans.com

by mykalmorgan on Nov 3, 2009 12:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

it's not a subplot

it’s tedious and annoying AL baseball. how they manage it in an NL park will always be irritating.

and no, Pudge does not make that many mound visits. no way.

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 3, 2009 12:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

whoa, new format

anyway, my #28 jersey tee came in the mail today!

also just picked up a 120gb ps3 with mlb ‘09 the show, mgs 4 and gta iv. great day! too bad i have a govt test in two hours that i’ve hardly studied for

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Nov 3, 2009 12:46 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

come on

no gamers here?

Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.

by prophetjohn on Nov 3, 2009 1:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm a little out of the loop right now with gaming

But that does sound pretty awesome.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Nov 3, 2009 1:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Netflix is getting ready to launch for PS3.

And, I heard a rumor, for the Wii. I have a Wii, but I’d love a PS3.

by spants on Nov 3, 2009 1:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It's really not that big of a deal.

…no different than wanting to play a different game.

BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

by vexedtechie on Nov 3, 2009 2:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

except i dont have to do it with either of the devices referenced above

given the choice, yes i wont be using it on ps3 until they do a software update

by FunkeeC on Nov 3, 2009 2:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Netflix

I just got a PS3 a month or so ago and I’m excited about the streaming Netflix. Never really made use of it on my previous POS laptop.
I don’t have an XBox, so it doesn’t matter to me, but I like that it’s free through PS3 whereas Microsoft will continue to make people pay the Xbox live fee to use the service. Not a problem if you already use that for other purposes, of course

by brafi on Nov 3, 2009 2:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

ya i use live for plenty of other things so its irrelevant

but of course having the option, not matter how lazily it is added, is better than not having the choice

by FunkeeC on Nov 3, 2009 3:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm actually at a very toned-down place right now with videogames

I have a Wii and love it, but I don’t see myself buying another console any time soon. The Wii offers nice, simple and streamlined experiences that just fit better with my current lifestyle. I’m still gradually going through Zelda Twilight Princess, I just wouldn’t get around to playing a PS3 or XBox.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Nov 3, 2009 1:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

We don't play enough video games to justify buying a new console, either.

Yet I’d still like to have one. Plus, the PS3’s Blu-Ray is a big draw.

by spants on Nov 3, 2009 1:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The Blu-Ray option is nice,

but BR players have come down in price substantially, to the point the PS3 may no longer represent as good a deal on that front as it did.

I just replaced the DVD player in my bedroom with a BR player, and only paid $170, I believe, for a nice mid-range model with all the streaming gadgets and everything on it. Compared to the $350 I paid for my first BR when they launched, I am once again forced to conclude waiting even just a little while would have been a much better idea. Oh, the sorrow of early adoption…

All of which is just a roundabout way of saying the PS3 is nice, but you’ll be able to pick up a Blu-Ray machine sometime before Christmas for 150 bucks, if you want one, so the price point dynamic is no longer so heavily in favour of the PS3.

Here comes the funcooker!

by the red baron on Nov 3, 2009 2:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

True.

As I’ve stated below, however, if the game wasn’t made during the first Bush administration, I’m somewhat less than interested.

The PS3 is a pretty remarkable machine, though. It’s just a shame Sony price pointed it so far out of reach at first. (Of course, they didn’t really have a choice.)

Here comes the funcooker!

by the red baron on Nov 3, 2009 3:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I bought a Wii, play it constantly, and only own one game on disc.

I have, on the other hand, downloaded nearly every Nintendo game I ever played between the ages of about seven and thirteen. I may never play a modern video game again, to be honest. I had forgotten just how amazing Super Mario 3 and Faxanadu really were.

Here comes the funcooker!

by the red baron on Nov 3, 2009 2:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That's one of the greatest parts, yeah

The downloading is pretty easy and a lot of those games really stand the test of time. I’ve only downloaded a few so far—Bubble Bobble, Secret of Mana, the sequel to FFIV (surprisingly fun so far, but they’re stringing it along in multiple installments, which is annoying), and Megaman 9 (which is actually a “new” NES game). I love emulators, but there’s something about playing it on an actual system with good controllers.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Nov 3, 2009 2:25 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, god, I loooooove Secret of Mana.

One of the greatest games ever made, in my ever so humble opinion. I haven’t messed with the FFIV thing, but I may once they release all of it.

And MegaMan 9 was fucking HARD. Took me forever to beat that damned thing.

Here comes the funcooker!

by the red baron on Nov 3, 2009 2:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Amen

I actually haven’t gotten around to playing much of Megaman 9 yet though.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Nov 3, 2009 2:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Secret of Mana was always one of the games

I thought about playing but never got around to it. You should look at Orge Battle on the Wii virtual console. It is mixture of a rpg and strategy game. It is a blast so far. Extremely challenging which so many games are not now in days.

by FlimtotheFlam on Nov 3, 2009 5:48 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

You mean Ogre Battle, March of the Black Queen?

Or one of the later ones?

I have them all, and have roundly beaten each. I’m just showing off.

Btw, the Princess class on MoTBQ is one of the most awesome creations I think I’ve ever seen. Get a Princess to lead a unit, and a Lich with a couple wyverns in front of him, and you can take anything.

Here comes the funcooker!

by the red baron on Nov 3, 2009 5:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, don't get me wrong.

If you don’t have two full hours at a time to sit down and play, don’t bother. You’ll never get into any kind of real flow. If you have the time and patience, though, it is a uniquely rewarding game.

Here comes the funcooker!

by the red baron on Nov 3, 2009 7:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

rec

because you, sir, have good taste in games.

i got more quality gameplay out of secret of mana than most games on any console. definitely in my top 10 all-time.

"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5

"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.

by Tudor's Electric Fan on Nov 3, 2009 9:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

SWEET!

/adds several items to his Christmas list

"He stands there like a man. They didn’t teach him fear at home, where he grew up. It’s not part of his bag." - Felipe Alou on Albert Pujols

"Ryan Howard hit behind Jimmy Rollins and Chase Utley. If Albert Pujols hit behind Jimmy Rollins and Chase Utley, he would have had 493 RBI. Do the math. It checks out." - FJM

by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Nov 3, 2009 2:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

ohhhh

Faxanadu. I thought I was only one who owned that game. All my friends thought that my brother and I were nuts for enjoying that one. I can still hear that music.

Also: Bionic Commando, Adventures of Lolo and Rygar.

by _pistol_ on Nov 3, 2009 2:34 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

All good.

If you’re interested in the music of Faxanadu itself as a way to get through the day at work, go to Nintendo8.com. They have Faxanadu available to stream directly w/o a download of any sort. They also have Bard’s Tale, which may be my single favourite 8 bit game of all time (either that or the seldom-seen Dragon Warrior 4), and has some of the best MIDI music ever set down.

Now that I’ve made myself want to kick my own ass, I’ll go away.

Here comes the funcooker!

by the red baron on Nov 3, 2009 2:42 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles

is effing impossible!!!

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Nov 3, 2009 6:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

XBOX 360 4VER!!!!11!!!1

Just kidding. Actually, I’m a PC gamer (I also have a seldom-used Wii – ugh, don’t get me started on how seldom I get to use my Wii). Have been playing Borderlands for the past week. Going to pick up Dragon Age: Origins on the way home tonight and geek myself into oblivion. Maybe take a break to catch “V” and Inara, uh, I mean, Morena Baccarin. She looks hot no matter what she does, but did she really need to cut off all that gorgeous hair?

After that, I’ll listen to some They Might Be Giants and write some Star Trek fan fiction with furries. (That last part was a joke – furries are way too nerdy!)

Don't argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. - anon.

by Solanus on Nov 3, 2009 2:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

If by nerdy you mean hot, then I agree.

Girls in bunny suits at Flaming Lips shows for the win.

Here comes the funcooker!

by the red baron on Nov 3, 2009 2:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Bunny suits don't count as furry do they?

That would make Hugh Hefner a furry.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Nov 3, 2009 2:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Different kind of bunny suits altogether.

But maybe… Hef’s a freak, everybody!

Here comes the funcooker!

by the red baron on Nov 3, 2009 2:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It was mostly a joke at my own expense

That all of the above are perfectly fine, but furries – that’s going too far. In reality, I have no TMBG albums, nor write fanfics, but that’s only because I can’t be creative and complete anything at the same time. Furries are appealing on a certain level, though, but then again, a hot woman can wear nearly anything and still maintain their hotness.

Don't argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. - anon.

by Solanus on Nov 3, 2009 2:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

pictures

http://www.brunching.com/images/geekchartbig.gif

…sorry. it’s a gif.

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 3, 2009 2:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That is awesome.

And, I’m proud to say, I only fit into the anime category of that whole chart. (As long as no one looks in my closet, anyway.)

Here comes the funcooker!

by the red baron on Nov 3, 2009 2:36 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I was kind of riffing off the .gif from the other day

Don't argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. - anon.

by Solanus on Nov 3, 2009 2:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I must have missed it,

because I don’t know which one you mean. I thought you were just my long-lost soul mate.

Here comes the funcooker!

by the red baron on Nov 3, 2009 2:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That really is an amazing chart

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Nov 3, 2009 2:40 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You don't own...

and you don’t write…

You lied to me. You, you just lied. Right to my face. I, I just, I can’t believe you would-

(Sound of single gunshot is heard in the distance)

Here comes the funcooker!

by the red baron on Nov 3, 2009 2:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Don't take it so hard

Just because I have no TBMG albums doesn’t mean that I don’t like obscure bands that play accordion (16 Horsepower, The Subdudes) or nerdy music (like the guy who did the closing credits for Portal). Plus I can’t write music, poetry, or prose to save my life (I’ve already been killed twice because of it – shit, sorry, another lie, sorry, sorry …), but I do enjoy reading Firefly fanfics and have many imaginative ideas running wild and untamed in my head, like a half dozen computer games or 50 different mid-80’s-stlye G.I. Joe figurines. Nevermind the untold amount of brain space dedicated to my encyclopedic knowledge of random movie/TV/cartoon quotes, as well as pitch-perfect impersonation of many of those lines.

And … and, and, … I also occasionally score baseball games while sitting on my couch. Don’t you see that I’m just as geeky as you thought I was? Please don’t leave me like this!

(Alright, enough of this shit, I am telling you people entirely too much information.)

Don't argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. - anon.

by Solanus on Nov 3, 2009 2:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Seeing as I generally respect your tastes such as

De Stijl as the best Stripes album and Soft Bulletin as overall greatness. What do you think of Embryonic?

(Insert Your Own Joke)

by AWolfAtTheDoor on Nov 3, 2009 2:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Honestly, I've heard only three songs,

and don’t own it yet. The Lips have the deluxe CD editions available, but haven’t released the vinyl edition yet. When the vinyl edition becomes available, then I’ll go ahead and get it.

In the meantime, I’ll probably give in and pay Steve Jobs for the thing; I simply can’t hold out very long when there’s a Lips record to be purchased.

My impressions so far of what I’ve heard: “Evil” is an incredible song; the other two I’ve heard, “Convinced of the Hex” and something else I don’t recall the name of, were much noisier, and they concerned me, honestly. Not the songs themselves, as both sounded great, but the actual quality of the recordings themselves. Both sounded delightfully noisy and grimy, but also had this odd, brickwalled feel to them, as if they had been improperly mastered. It seems unlikely there’s a problem with the actual mastering, as Dave Fridmann is perhaps the best producer working today as far as sonics go, but I wonder if this isn’t a case of digital media being unsuitable for a record. I would have to listen much more carefully to know if that’s the case or not, of course, but it was my impression upon first hearing these songs.

It reminded me a bit, honestly, of Public Image Limited’s Metal Box record. You can get it on CD, carefully mastered, and it still sounds like shit. No one has ever quite figured out how to properly master the bass parts from that album in a digital format. Get it on vinyl of another analog format, and it sounds brilliant and clautrophobic and swelteringly panicked. Get it on a digital medium and it’s cold, tinny, and hollow. I wonder if this is a similar situation? If I remember correctly, “Transmissions From the Satellite Heart” had some similar issues on the noisier tracks. (Which was, to be fair, most of them.)

So that’s my opinion. I don’t have one yet, but I’m not sure I liked what I heard in one listen of a couple songs. And “Evil” is wicked awesome.

Here comes the funcooker!

by the red baron on Nov 3, 2009 3:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

agree on destijl

definitely.

Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008

by Felonius_Monk on Nov 4, 2009 7:12 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I love MLB 09 the show

Play it all the time on my PS3. (I’m avoiding the comments above mine for fear that the include gaming console fanboi love).

Also, my ps3 is currently my home media server, I have a ton of downloaded / ripped movies for my son (sesame street, etc) and stream stuff from my mac to it. It’s great. Enjoy yours.

by creativereason on Nov 3, 2009 9:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Best. Baseball Game. Evar.

And it took a lot to bump MVP 05, for me.

by mynameistyler on Nov 4, 2009 12:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Hmmm

why is it so great? MVP 05 is my favorite now, as well.

by saladdays on Nov 4, 2009 2:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The Show is awesome

This coming from another MVP 05 fan. It’s the first game since the MVP age to offer a really solid experience.

by mojowo11 on Nov 4, 2009 2:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Well

I guess it’s only on PS3…I only have a 360

by saladdays on Nov 4, 2009 3:24 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

w00t for mlb 09 the show!

....my quick smells like french toast...

by mstreeter06 on Nov 4, 2009 12:12 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

also those with ps3's...

there’s a program called tversity that allows to you stream files from your computer(s) to your ps3. quite awesome. check it out.

....my quick smells like french toast...

by mstreeter06 on Nov 4, 2009 12:14 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

stop for a moment and consider a 1-2-3

of Carp, Lee, Waino…of course we would have had no real offense without holliday after the break last season, but still that rotation would be one of the best ever

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

by VolsnCards5 on Nov 3, 2009 12:53 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Carp-Lee would be the most intense and ruthless 1-2 ever

Waino would seem downright happy-go-lucky next to those two. Hell, I’ve seen Waino smile. Nobody sees Carp or Lee smile and survives.

by mojowo11 on Nov 3, 2009 2:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Carp-Lee-Waino would be tremendous

I don’t know if it’d be the greatest 1-2-3 of all time, but it’d be up there.
It would most definitely be the great “1-2-3 of awesome lanky white guys who will murder you with their eyes” of all time. Wainwright will joke around with you for a minute before he murders you.
It’d got R-L-R to boot!

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Nov 3, 2009 2:43 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'd always love it when they'd put up our current three

because the pictures were all
:| :D :D

carp, wainer, jo-el

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 3, 2009 2:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

oohhhh and then there'd be John Smoltz too.

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 3, 2009 2:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Wuh...what happened?

I think I just passed out for some reason. Oh hey it’s a picture of

by mojowo11 on Nov 3, 2009 2:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

wear the goggles, man

learn from momup

you’d never last two milliseconds with Lugo

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 3, 2009 2:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Sexy man.

Yeah I said it.

by spants on Nov 3, 2009 2:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

this thread is a classic...

http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2009/8/17/992932/game-120-overflow-thread-1#19838124

I’m surprised it was only 1 rec

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 3, 2009 3:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I forgot about that!

Seriously, it should be green.

by spants on Nov 3, 2009 3:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

For the record:

Wainwright.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Nov 3, 2009 3:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

but not Dreamy Joe?

right? or was that someone else

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 3, 2009 3:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Must have been someone else.

Dreamy Joe is… dreamy.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Nov 3, 2009 4:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

WHat About..

…Porn’stache LaRue??
;=8)

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Nov 3, 2009 4:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Either her or cardsgirl95, I think.

Personally, I don’t see how anyone could not see how-

You know what? I’m going in a weird direction in this thread today.

Here comes the funcooker!

by the red baron on Nov 3, 2009 4:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I hope Mather's wrist heals quickly.

I’m not holding out for it, but I hope.

by spants on Nov 3, 2009 4:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

someone made up a new nickname for him

I will not repeat it, so as not to jinx him.

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 3, 2009 4:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Does it involve a tense change?

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Nov 3, 2009 4:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think it's slipped off the page

and no, it’s a ‘surname’ change.

hang on a sec

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 3, 2009 4:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

found

…sigh.

link

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 3, 2009 4:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah.

as they say… i haz a sad.

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 3, 2009 4:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

you had to do it

yadi2, didn’t you?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Nov 6, 2009 2:33 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Can we call him "205"?

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on Nov 3, 2009 5:40 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Me too.

Guy reminds me so much of Jayson Werth, and after watching Werth this postseason, I can’t help but drag out all my old hopes for Mr. Bombs.

Here comes the funcooker!

by the red baron on Nov 3, 2009 4:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Me too.

I miss him.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Nov 3, 2009 4:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

He's a handsome guy, there's nothing wrong with being able to recognize it.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Nov 3, 2009 4:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

(I'm amused that I've been talking about Joe Mauer.)

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 3, 2009 4:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It was me, me, me, me, ME.

I posted pictures of him on that thread, I think. Or maybe I just thought about it.

"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog

"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009

by andi_k on Nov 3, 2009 11:09 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Hm. Maybe it wasn't THAT thread.

But I do enjoy some Joey Bombs when I can get some.

There was a Memphis report on whatever show that was hosted by Ricky Horton and Jack Clark early in the season (I have totally forgotten the name) and Joey gave a tour of the Memphis clubhouse and explained how everyone loved to watch “Rock of Love Bus.” Silly boys.

"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog

"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009

by andi_k on Nov 3, 2009 11:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It appears that quite a few people like Joey Bombs.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Nov 3, 2009 11:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Good! They should.

"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog

"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009

by andi_k on Nov 3, 2009 11:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I do.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Nov 3, 2009 4:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

now colby has a sad, for him and all the not-a-talker guys out there.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on Nov 3, 2009 3:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh no Colby is always first.

Except for the days when Grady’s first. But given the choice between Carp and Waino, I’d pick Waino.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Nov 3, 2009 4:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

See, A.D.A.M. I feel the opposite about I do Carp.

Wainwright is very attractive with the ballcap on and the uni, but in street clothes I don’t think he’s as good looking. Something about the shape of his head, perhaps.

Here comes the funcooker!

by the red baron on Nov 3, 2009 3:11 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree.

Carp with his hat on is just meh, but dressed up like that he’s a remarkably attractive man. It’s odd that doesn’t come through when he’s playing. Most guys look good in the uniforms.

Here comes the funcooker!

by the red baron on Nov 3, 2009 3:09 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

edit

most professional athletes look food in uniforms

by brackenthebox on Nov 3, 2009 3:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Well

Prince Fielder sure looks food in uniforms

And, in a related story, this week marked the 5,000th performance of the Broadway musical "Cats." It also marked the 5,000th time a guy turned to his wife and said, "What the hell is this?"

by jd is legend on Nov 3, 2009 3:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Well, I make that face when I'm-

never mind.

Here comes the funcooker!

by the red baron on Nov 3, 2009 3:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

the bagpipes.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Nov 3, 2009 3:25 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

"Hey, you want my old Xbox?"

“She has a name!”

Here comes the funcooker!

by the red baron on Nov 3, 2009 3:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

hahahahahaha

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Nov 3, 2009 4:11 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

nice!

You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the goddamn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all.
-- Earl Weaver

by Smokin Turkeys on Nov 3, 2009 5:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

hahaha

He’s also very squinty – and his mouth hangs open – when he’s reading signs. I can’t find a photo of that.

by spants on Nov 3, 2009 3:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I could be wrong here

but I think Carpenter’s body type also does not really impress in a baseball uniform. He doesn’t appear to have much natural grace with his movements; they’re just refined for killing, not beauty. He doesn’t really have that “young guy lankiness” of a Wainwright.
And I just cannot imagine downloading photoshopped pictures of Carpenter in a bunny sui—UH I MEAN HE’S A HANDSOME GUY AND ALL BUT THAT’S IT.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Nov 3, 2009 3:34 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

a killer bunny suit.

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 3, 2009 3:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The Donnie Darko bunny.

Someone with photoshop skillz should make that happen.

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Nov 3, 2009 3:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

rugged good looks.

ok, now let’s see, that fits in at #103 on my “list of skills and attributes chris carpenter possesses that I do not and will never.”

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on Nov 3, 2009 3:11 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Trust me

The perpetual five o’clock shadow may look rugged, but it’s a never-ending pain in the ass.

by mojowo11 on Nov 3, 2009 3:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

WOW

I had no idea Carp could look so good. Some men just look good in a suit I guess.

by spfldbird on Nov 3, 2009 4:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

If it's the correct suit,

ALL men look good in a suit.

Here comes the funcooker!

by the red baron on Nov 3, 2009 4:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The taller NBA players tend to look a bit... problematic in suits, though

I’ve never seen one that was very well-fitting, there is just too much fabric out there.

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Nov 3, 2009 4:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Interestingly enough,

GQ did a feature a couple years ago on troublesome builds and suits. One of the guys they used was Amare Stoudemire, and they managed to make him look really great. They replaced the long, drapey Italian suits power forwards seem to gravitate toward (the ones that are nearly zoot suits, but without the elegance), and replaced it with a higher cut, slim British fit. Cut out the stripes as well, because they tend to elongate things.

If I remember correctly, they went with a bright pocket square and tie to draw the eye upward to the face, rather than accentuating the length of the frame. They also went with a two button, contemporary suit cut instead of the three- or even four-button jackets favoured by the very tall.

The overall thought process was to avoid long, uninterrupted stretches of fabric that end up making an already hugely tall man look even taller or, worse yet, like Cab Calloway gone horribly, horribly wrong.

They also did heavy, using Horatio Sanz, they used Apollo Ono, the skater, but I don’t honestly recall what his issue was. (I think he’s really short, maybe?) They also used one of the MMA guys for someone with an athletic build and very broad shoulders. It was an outstanding bit or sartorial advice.

Here comes the funcooker!

by the red baron on Nov 3, 2009 4:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Piniero

He had a good season because it was his walk year. Next year will be average to below. The most common, recurring theme in professional sports.

Sign a Harden or Sheets next year. The money required shouldn’t be too terribly bad (this assumes you don’t have all your money tied up in Holiday). And speaking of Holiday, I still think he comes back for a myriad of reasons. That said, they can live without him if need be, rely primarily on existing offensive talent (De Rosa included), and still win the Central.

If Holiday doesn’t come back, my early prediction has Colby doing a fine job protecting Pujols in the cleanup slot by the All-Star Break.

I also believe that Ankiel, no matter where he winds up, is going to have a totally different season next year. Not necessarily off the charts, but more than respectable. I would love to see the Cardinals re-sign him to an incentive laden deal and see how he performs in the Spring. If so, I could more than live with the following:

Lineup:

Schumaker – 2B
Ludwick – LF
Pujols – 1B
Rasmus – CF
Ankiel – RF
De Rosa – 3B
Molina – C
Ryan – SS

Bring Freese and Craig up to fill the bench, and fill out remaining roles (LH hitting utility infielder, backup catcher, etc) as necessary. If Ankiel falters, move De Rosa to the outfield and start Freese/Craig.

Rotation:

Carpenter
Wainwright
Harden/Sheets
Lohse
Garcia/Hawksworth

Bullpen relatively unchanged (save the possibility of Hawksworth starting). I still think a new closer is necessary however.

by mwrg on Nov 3, 2009 12:59 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

that team would have trouble scoring 3.5 runs per game imho

maybe i am wrong

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

by VolsnCards5 on Nov 3, 2009 1:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You're not wrong.

The main problem with that lineup is that it’s nearly the exact same lineup we had this year, when we couldn’t score any runs. And it’s worse because Holliday is missing.

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Nov 3, 2009 1:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe

But part of the point is that, with that rotation, it may not have to. I think 3.5 is a little light anyway, assuming you get better years out of Ankiel, Ludwick (slightly), and will have a fully healthy DeRosa. Although I concede you may get a lesser offensive year out of Ryan.

by mwrg on Nov 3, 2009 3:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Please no on Ankiel

I sort of agree that he’ll have a better season, but I just can’t take another year of him playing over Rasmus in center field.

He hit it good. He hit it good.

by Jack618 on Nov 3, 2009 1:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The problem with an Ankiel ST invite

Is that he’ll make the team no matter if he strikes out in 22 out of 53 PAs like he did to finish the year. I think he’d be a good buy low candidate 4th outfielder yeah, the possibility of .270 .334 .515 would be pretty cool to have for cheap but I just wouldn’t trust that the DFA hammer would come if he continued his 2009. Not to mention he’d get PT over Rasmus which is just dumb. If it could be established that he’s a 4th outfielder who has to TLR alert “earn it”, that’d be fine. But that’s not possible.

I’ll make it my personal crusade to prove that Smoltz is the highest upside pitcher among any of the guys in that bin. 3.87 FIP last year (2.83 with us) and his shoulder should technically be stronger going into next year. Considering his fastball was clearly his weak point this year, any upgrade in velocity would likely have an exponential effect on his performance IMO.

Even if it’s not, the guy can be effective no matter what. He was effective with a shredded shoulder in his innings in 08, so to me his injury problems are the least concerning as they relate to performance. And on top of it, I think he’s the only one of the group who could actually gut his way to 180-200 innings. This is probably his last year, he’s not going to hold anything back.

Plus Harden in his contract year, when the one thing he really has to prove is durability, can only muster 140 innings and has to be shut down at the end of the year. He’s a trainwreck waiting to happen. And I’ll ask it again, does anyone know if Sheets has picked up a baseball since March?

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Nov 3, 2009 1:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Why do people think Ankiel would play over Rasmus

by the last couple of months Ankiel was basically a bench player. Rasmus was the everyday CF. I don’t especially care if Ankiel’s back but I really don’t see him taking significant PT away from Rasmus if he is.

Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008

by Felonius_Monk on Nov 3, 2009 1:25 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'd like to see Harden brought in,

but only if he’s interested in trying on the closer role.

Here comes the funcooker!

by the red baron on Nov 3, 2009 2:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm starting to like this as a trend

bring in ex-Cubs and they flourish… while they get Aaron Miles. for entertainment value alone…
takes the sting out of Milwaukee starters owning us. somewhat.

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 3, 2009 2:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You forget about them taking Marquis off our hands

It’s pure comedy over there…

"The Cards lead this game tied 1-1." -Mike Shannon

by ducttape16 on Nov 3, 2009 9:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

For your daily consumption: Frank Robinson, Bill DeWitt and Albert Pujols

Watching the 1969 World Series, it occured to me just how little credit Frank Robinson gets for being one of the Top 5 hitters all time. When he retired from baseball, he was 4th all-time in HRs, just outside the Holy Trinity of Aaron, Ruth and Mays. He was the last man to win the NL Triple Crown, the last man to win the MVP in both leagues and in general a bad ass. He was to hitting what Bob Gibson was to pitching. He literally stood on the plate and didn’t complain that you buzzed his tower. You just better duck on the next pitch you throw over the plate.

Which got me to thinking about Frank Robinson and Bill DeWitt Sr. The father of the current owner and the man who traded Frank Robinson at the Age of 30 for 3 not-so-good players to Baltimore because, as he put it, Robinson was an ‘old 30’. Robinson, of course, hit .284 with 262 HRs and 803 RBIs after the age of 30.

Which is where we will find Albert Pujols next year, at Age 30 and with one year left on his contract (2011). Bill DeWitt Jr. wouldn’t commit the sins of his father, would he? He wouldn’t do to Pujols what his father did to Pujols’ #3 comp through Age 28, would he?

by Hardcore Legend on Nov 3, 2009 1:10 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I doubt it.

I really don’t see them letting Pujols walk under any circumstances.

Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008

by Felonius_Monk on Nov 3, 2009 1:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Not happening.

I DeWitt traded Pujols, he’d have to go on the lam with Steve Bartman to avoid the inevitable massacre.

I believe there are only two scenarios that lead to Pujols leaving STL: 1) LaRussa leaves and AP follows. 2) He demands a contract the Cardinals simply cannot afford to give him.

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Nov 3, 2009 1:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

or

Yadi leaves and AP follows

I would actually be okay with that. That’s the best tandem in baseball. Perhaps ever.

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 3, 2009 1:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

you'd be okay with Yadi and Pujols leaving?!

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Nov 3, 2009 1:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That's like a double-whammy

God, I hope that doesn’t happen…

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Nov 3, 2009 1:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

what spants said

only if they’re together

by the same token, I think it would break me if Albert left without him.

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 3, 2009 1:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i thought medwick was the last NL triple crown winner?

robinson won his with the orioles, no?

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

by VolsnCards5 on Nov 3, 2009 1:24 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That's actually correct

I just happened to have his B-Ref page open.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Nov 3, 2009 1:34 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

MY EYES!!!!!!!!!!!

what happened!?!?!?!

jd is legend for Cardinals' closer 2010!!

by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 3, 2009 1:34 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

SBN

is trying to program us all with the Intercept.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Nov 3, 2009 1:47 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

In reality it'd be more like...

“Whoa! I know SQL!”

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Nov 3, 2009 2:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Is it possible that

this new format with its bright white display is draining my computer battery faster? Sure seems like it.

by mattyp on Nov 3, 2009 2:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

is it possible

that this new format with its bright white display is draining my battery faster? Sure seems like it.

by mattyp on Nov 3, 2009 2:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

ugh

and making me post twice…

by mattyp on Nov 3, 2009 2:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I do like how you changed it up from the first to the second time

Constantly improving, that’s the mattyp we know and … well, I’m not going that far

Don't argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. - anon.

by Solanus on Nov 3, 2009 2:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I've seen a couple articles proclaiming the Cardinals to be "team of the decade"

Chicago and Baltimore papers. I was very reluctant to agree, but I’m starting to come around. Did any other team have the same combination of consistent regular season success, making the playoffs a lot, winning at least one WS title, and doing it all without a top-tier payroll? It all hinges on the payroll argument, that the Cardinals were able to get the most bang for their buck, which gives them something to counter the Red Sox’ two WS wins (and either the Phillies or the Yankees).
Also, we have not yet finished the first decade of the 3rd millennium so this is all moot still (no, I will not let that go since it’s mathematically true. And furthermore, since Albert started in 2001, the period of 2001-2010 will be awesomely remembered in my mind as the Albert Pujols Decade).

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Nov 3, 2009 2:33 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

mathematically true -- is that the SECOND best kind of true?

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on Nov 3, 2009 2:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

technically: 'correct'

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 3, 2009 2:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

same article

Phil Rogers of the Tribune wrote the one article that appeared in the Chicago and Baltimore papers. The Baltimore Sun is owned by the Tribune and utilizes the same resources.

On the decade issue – when do the 20’s run, 2021-2030 or 2020-2029? If you vote 2020-2029, then which earlier decade ends up with only 9 years?

by ubeddie on Nov 4, 2009 10:34 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Huh. Thanks for the info.

I didn’t realize it was the same article, because I felt dirty reading the Chicago Tribune.
And the answer is that no decade ends up with only 9 years. We like to refer to decades by the first number, such as “80’s” and “90’s”, but since there was no year “0” AD (or CE, whatever) this makes things messy. In reality, when the year 200 ended, we were officially 2 millennia into the the AD epoch.
If I had my way (and I never will) then 1991-2000 would be considered one decade. The way we popularly refer to it now, the first “decade” of the AD era only had 9 years, because year 10 through year 19 would be considered the second decade and years 1 through 9 would be considered the first.
Besides: Albert Pujols Decade. Come on, it’s awesome!

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Nov 4, 2009 10:39 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Oops

I meant, “when the year 2000 ended” not “200”

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Nov 4, 2009 10:39 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on Nov 3, 2009 2:42 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

This commercial is entirely too short to be real

This would have to take at least two minutes to read to be genuine. I think we have another poser (someone other than me, apparently).

Don't argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. - anon.

by Solanus on Nov 3, 2009 3:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It Burnses my EYES!!!!

<=8O

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Nov 3, 2009 4:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

if anyone was wondering what had happened to the Dirt Cheap guy...

he won’t be the Dirt Cheap guy anymore

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 3, 2009 2:54 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Whoa!

I thought for sure that guy had died or something. The Dirt Cheap commercials will just never be the same.
I actually find this article fascinating. I never really knew anything about him. I am glad he soldiers on for political incorrectness.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Nov 3, 2009 3:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think we're confusing political incorrectness with smoking and being tacky.

Gloriously, gloriously tacky.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Nov 3, 2009 3:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Not Fred.

Maybe if Brad Pitt (or Chris Carpenter!) was doing the commercials…

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Nov 3, 2009 3:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Wow.

That sucks he won’t be doing the Dirt Cheap ads anymore, but also awesome he’s still around. Seems like a really cool guy. I may have to feature one of his commercials this week or something.

Here comes the funcooker!

by the red baron on Nov 3, 2009 3:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Really?

Crap! That really pisses me off, when I manage to miss something my own damned paper reports.

Here comes the funcooker!

by the red baron on Nov 3, 2009 3:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

He seems like an interesting person

But to me he seems like maybe he’s kind of an ass.

by mojowo11 on Nov 3, 2009 3:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That...

is one hideous man.

by mynameistyler on Nov 3, 2009 3:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

he's 70 and still occupied with what he loves

we should all be so lucky
well, most of us

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 3, 2009 3:36 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Cheapo Depot...

Simply amazing…

"The Cards lead this game tied 1-1." -Mike Shannon

by ducttape16 on Nov 3, 2009 9:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

New format = DO NOT WANT

And, in a related story, this week marked the 5,000th performance of the Broadway musical "Cats." It also marked the 5,000th time a guy turned to his wife and said, "What the hell is this?"

by jd is legend on Nov 3, 2009 3:12 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Hey now...

let’s keep comments like that to facebook.

"The Cards lead this game tied 1-1." -Mike Shannon

by ducttape16 on Nov 3, 2009 9:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Dislike

And, in a related story, this week marked the 5,000th performance of the Broadway musical "Cats." It also marked the 5,000th time a guy turned to his wife and said, "What the hell is this?"

by jd is legend on Nov 4, 2009 12:07 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008

by Felonius_Monk on Nov 4, 2009 7:15 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I've spent over four hours on conference calls today and have maybe said twelve words.

I need a beer.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Nov 3, 2009 3:23 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

oooooh.... now a martini!

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Nov 3, 2009 3:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Kettle, dirty, please.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Nov 3, 2009 3:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Thank you, mam.

ClemsonGirl has been replaced as my favorite VEB bartender/waitress.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Nov 3, 2009 3:34 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Hey I wasn't working!

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Nov 3, 2009 4:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm of the school that, if it doesn't have Gin, it's not a Martini.

I understand that it’s not your fault that one needs to make the distinction, though, and it’s prudent to ask.
As an aside, I think it’s funny how many restaurant menus have a section of their drink menu called “Martinis” that feature almost entirely mixed drinks with Vodka and some other random ingredient, as if Martinis have nothing to do with Gin and Vermouth.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Nov 3, 2009 3:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Thank you!

I actually like Vermouth, too. Apparently a Martini is usually made with like, a 4 to 1 ratio at least, but I prefer most like 2 to 1 or 1 to 1. The drink is probably named about Martini & Rossi vermouth after all, and before prohibition, when hard liquor wasn’t as important, it was equal parts.
Churchill apparently would just shake and pour some Gin and nod in the direction of France out of respect.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Nov 3, 2009 3:50 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Nope.

Martini is a bastardisation of the drink’s original name, the Martinez. Invented out in San Francisco during the gold rush era. It used to be much, much sweeter, and gradually evolved into the ultra-dry concoction it tends to be today.

And I agree on the gin/vodka debate. A martini contains gin, and that’s all there is to it.

Here comes the funcooker!

by the red baron on Nov 3, 2009 3:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Well, I have heard that explanation

but it just sounds kind of wacky to me so I didn’t believe it. Is that actually considered more likely? I mean, the drinks are almost nothing alike.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Nov 3, 2009 3:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That's what I've heard and read most places.

I suppose it could be incorrect, but that information has come from many sources.

Here comes the funcooker!

by the red baron on Nov 3, 2009 3:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Hm. I'll just consider them the two most likely explanations then.

I’m not even that crazy about Martinis personally, but I like traditional mixology, and it’s my dad’s favorite. He uses the old fashioned recipe with more vermouth and can drink several in a night (and often does) due to the lower alcohol content.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Nov 3, 2009 4:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Did someone say Old Fashioned?

Apparently I’m trying to get everyone hammered.

by spants on Nov 3, 2009 4:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I see a roofie in that one.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on Nov 3, 2009 4:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It's so much more romantic when you say it that way.

Are you a vampire by any chance?

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Nov 3, 2009 4:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Almost that pale.

But no. Just an Arrested Development junkie.

by spants on Nov 3, 2009 4:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Old Fashioneds are awesome

I also really like Sazeracs. In fact I tend to lean more towards whiskey-based drinks in general. Manhattan, Rob Roy, 7&7 are all great.
A great Gin-based drink, though, is the Negroni. Yum.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Nov 3, 2009 4:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed on the whiskey-based (Manhattan usually).

The Vodka v. Gin debate is inconsequential to me, though this place in Springfield makes a good one of either.

"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus

by hazel on Nov 4, 2009 2:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I hate gin.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Nov 3, 2009 4:58 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Heresy!

Here comes the funcooker!

by the red baron on Nov 3, 2009 4:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I found out that gin hates me

this Halloween.

Future Redbirds - tracking Cardinal prospects for Cardinal Nation

by azruavatar on Nov 3, 2009 5:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I found that out years ago.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Nov 3, 2009 5:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I've heard tales that the juniper can actually make you sick on its own if you have enough

Aside from alcohol sickness I mean. But I don’t know if that’s true or just an old wives’ tale.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Nov 3, 2009 5:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think it was gin mixed with a soda.

I recall enjoying the taste but it definitely didn’t sit well with the beer I was having. Not sure I’ll revisit it. If I’m drinking hard liquor it’s either tequila or a good rum.

Future Redbirds - tracking Cardinal prospects for Cardinal Nation

by azruavatar on Nov 3, 2009 9:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Mmmm. I like good rum.

Ever had Gosling’s Black Seal?

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Nov 3, 2009 9:50 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry, but I like me booze without juniper and berries.

you know, vodka.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Nov 3, 2009 5:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

that shit f'd me up on halloween

jd is legend for Cardinals' closer 2010!!

by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 3, 2009 5:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

get off my back!

jd is legend for Cardinals' closer 2010!!

by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 3, 2009 5:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I feel for ya fang.

But you opened that can of whoop-ass all on your own.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Nov 3, 2009 5:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

not true!

i made a simple sarcastic statement.

jd is legend for Cardinals' closer 2010!!

by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 3, 2009 5:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, I agree.

But you made it to spants. Which is akin to VEB hari-kari.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Nov 3, 2009 5:11 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

this is true

i think spants just has it out for me.

jd is legend for Cardinals' closer 2010!!

by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 3, 2009 5:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm just extra-feisty today.

It started last night at dinner. I can’t turn it off.

by spants on Nov 3, 2009 5:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

"Extra feisty." would be a great sig.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on Nov 3, 2009 5:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

How's this?

Now with extra feisty!

by spants on Nov 3, 2009 5:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

love it.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on Nov 3, 2009 5:47 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

And I can't even post a .gif of Feist

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Nov 3, 2009 5:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

feisty is a feature, not a bug.

well, sometimes.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on Nov 3, 2009 5:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

the Bloody Mary

is best when ordered extra feisty, imo

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Nov 6, 2009 2:58 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

resisting?

that is not the spants we all know and love

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Nov 3, 2009 5:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

it's very simple, but a good gin and tonic with a slice of lime is a fine, fine thing.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on Nov 3, 2009 5:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

+1

very simple to make. very difficult to master.

jd is legend for Cardinals' closer 2010!!

by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 3, 2009 5:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes.

Also, if you have a seltzer bottle at home, LEARN HOW TO MAKE A MOJITO correctly. You will thank yourself.

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Nov 3, 2009 5:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

And if you don't have a seltzer bottle,

get one. They are great.

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Nov 3, 2009 5:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I have this woman I keep just for her ability to make a kickass mojito

well, other things too, but mostly the kickass mojito

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Nov 3, 2009 5:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

hooray fresh mint.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on Nov 3, 2009 5:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Vodka and soda w/ a cucumber slice.

My drink o’ the summer times.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Nov 3, 2009 5:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

cucumber? sounds good. try a clove of garlic in lieu of olives in your favorite vodka drink.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on Nov 3, 2009 5:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

why have I never heard of this before?

good gob that sounds delicious

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Nov 3, 2009 5:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

This discussion is making me thirsty.

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Nov 3, 2009 5:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Best beer in the world.

Though I like the old labels better, myself.

Here comes the funcooker!

by the red baron on Nov 3, 2009 3:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

meh...

in reality I got paid to surf the interwebs and listen to others talk. Nice work, if you can get it.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Nov 3, 2009 3:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

HOT STOVE BREAKING NEWS NOT ABOUT THE WORLD SERIES!

The Rays just traded Akinori Iwamura to the…Pirates.

Linky link link

So…yeah. Really? The Pirates? Whatever.

by mojowo11 on Nov 3, 2009 4:21 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

what!

damn it, I love Aki

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 3, 2009 4:25 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

damn

he’ll be on the cubs by july then.

jd is legend for Cardinals' closer 2010!!

by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 3, 2009 4:25 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

. . . where he is now the best paid player on the squad, methinks.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on Nov 3, 2009 4:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Freddy Sanchez?

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Nov 3, 2009 4:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

freddy's a disable Giant these days, man. catch up!

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on Nov 3, 2009 4:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

*disabled

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on Nov 3, 2009 4:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That's what I get for deleting my Pirates team transaction feed from my RSS

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Nov 3, 2009 4:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i wasn't far off. maholm makes $4.5 next year, Doumit, $3M and change.

iwamura has an option for $4.25m for 2010.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on Nov 3, 2009 4:36 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

So I stopped by the local grade school

on my way home as apparently today is election day, and nothing is more American then voting (when you know nothing about the candidates or issues). I was the only person in there and there was only one thing to vote on. And it was some state senator running unopposed.

If I would have known the guy was running unopposed (or that there were even elections going on) I would have tried to get my name on the other side of the ticket and made a race of it, just for the story and tacky yard signs.

I’m pretty pissed at myself for missing this opportunity.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Nov 3, 2009 5:10 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

wow

voting pisses me off now. my brothers were OFF SCHOOL TODAY because people were voting in their school. that’s not how we worked in the olden days of 2006.

jd is legend for Cardinals' closer 2010!!

by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 3, 2009 5:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

6ly.

My mom told me my brother had school off today and I was angry. And I think they just had a half day. Unfair.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Nov 3, 2009 6:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I couldn't be worse than the giant ball of SUCK known as Ryan Franklin

I could probably learn a knuckleball

And, in a related story, this week marked the 5,000th performance of the Broadway musical "Cats." It also marked the 5,000th time a guy turned to his wife and said, "What the hell is this?"

by jd is legend on Nov 3, 2009 7:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

FRITZ IN 2010!

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on Nov 3, 2009 5:15 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Also,

“shut up, Fritz”™ is a great campaign slogan.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on Nov 3, 2009 5:15 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

It was just some Democrat running for state senator

that was the whole ballot!

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Nov 3, 2009 5:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

county?

http://www.co.st-louis.mo.us/ELECTIONS/

and now I will stop, because robots.

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 3, 2009 5:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

try this.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on Nov 3, 2009 5:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

well

http://www.stlelections.com/

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 3, 2009 5:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yup

this was the ballot

DEMOCRACY!!!

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Nov 3, 2009 5:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You should have written yourself in

Your write-in campaign starts (and ends) HERE!

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Nov 3, 2009 5:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

To be fair

Most elections in the city of St. Louis might as well be an un-opposed Dem anyway. The primaries are what really matter.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Nov 3, 2009 6:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm strating my own party.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Nov 3, 2009 6:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

right after i learn to spell!

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Nov 3, 2009 6:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It could be the Speeling Doesn't Matter Party.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Nov 3, 2009 6:11 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Just be careful to not offend the powerful speeling lobby

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Nov 3, 2009 6:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not afraid to take on big speeling.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Nov 3, 2009 6:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Finally, partnership with a friendly government.

Why don’t you try some of the local drinks: Piña Colada, or Cuba Libre?

Johnny Ola told me about this place…

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Nov 3, 2009 6:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

No, I don't know nothing about that

I got my own family, brackenthebox.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Nov 3, 2009 9:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Every time I see someone running unopposed on the ballot, I write my Dad's name in

And, in a related story, this week marked the 5,000th performance of the Broadway musical "Cats." It also marked the 5,000th time a guy turned to his wife and said, "What the hell is this?"

by jd is legend on Nov 3, 2009 6:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Bill Brasky?

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Nov 3, 2009 6:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

How did you know?

And, in a related story, this week marked the 5,000th performance of the Broadway musical "Cats." It also marked the 5,000th time a guy turned to his wife and said, "What the hell is this?"

by jd is legend on Nov 3, 2009 6:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not supposed to be within 200 feet of a school . . .

or a Chuck E. Cheese.

Future Redbirds - tracking Cardinal prospects for Cardinal Nation

by azruavatar on Nov 3, 2009 9:50 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

when i was a kid

i thought the robots at those places were the coolest things in the world.

Looks like i was lucky not to visit the one you roboted at ;)

it's Clydesdales vs Goats. Actually sums up Cards vs. Cubs quite nicely. -all4tookie

by SleepyCA on Nov 3, 2009 11:09 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Really?

I thought they were lame. Maybe the ones in CA were cooler than the ones in AL.

And, in a related story, this week marked the 5,000th performance of the Broadway musical "Cats." It also marked the 5,000th time a guy turned to his wife and said, "What the hell is this?"

by jd is legend on Nov 4, 2009 12:08 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

guessing they were probably a lot cooler

in the late 70’s/early 80’s than they were when you were of chuck e cheese age.

it's Clydesdales vs Goats. Actually sums up Cards vs. Cubs quite nicely. -all4tookie

by SleepyCA on Nov 4, 2009 1:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Just so we're clear

that’s a quote from The Hangover.

Future Redbirds - tracking Cardinal prospects for Cardinal Nation

by azruavatar on Nov 4, 2009 8:04 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Durr.

BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

by vexedtechie on Nov 4, 2009 1:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Also

One of Liam’s favorite issues was on the St. Louis County ballot I believe. Smoking in public places.

Future Redbirds - tracking Cardinal prospects for Cardinal Nation

by azruavatar on Nov 3, 2009 9:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know about the rest of you people

but I am always smoking in public places (at least thats what she says)

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Nov 3, 2009 9:54 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

There will be no self

that’s what she said/says on here… you’re on a 5 minute probation to think about what you’ve done…

"The Cards lead this game tied 1-1." -Mike Shannon

by ducttape16 on Nov 3, 2009 10:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

that wasn't a TWSS

that was just the GOB’s honest truth. I don’t know why you have to hate me just because I am beautiful.

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Nov 3, 2009 10:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yup

and the city didn’t even get to vote on it. We’re just adapting whatever the county said.

Democracy!

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Nov 4, 2009 7:06 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

OT: does anyone know anything about tilt-shift photography?

I just discovered it and I am amazed. I hacked a couple together in about 10 minutes and the effect was pretty outstanding.

Free Milton

by all4tookie on Nov 3, 2009 5:43 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Links

What I did here, pro stuff here

Free Milton

by all4tookie on Nov 3, 2009 5:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Dont look bad at all maybe just some refining

What did you use for your blur, i though glaus(ian) blur worked better. Sorry for my support of Troy there.

Check out Polar Coordinates there pretty neat too, if you can find a good tutorial

by from First to Third on Nov 3, 2009 6:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Awesome, thanks for the tips

I’m a photoshop newb, so I have just started messing around with this. I just used the program spants linked to to make those and the options are nil

Free Milton

by all4tookie on Nov 3, 2009 6:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

polar coordinates

It makes an image like a small sphere thingy. Um, trying to find some pics , flik’r sucks won’t let me save, and I ain’t putting up .GIF.

Just type “Polar Coordinate Photoshop” and check out some of the images, would explain better than my Khalil based ramble here

by from First to Third on Nov 3, 2009 6:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

oh wow

those are nice. Now I have something to distract me from baseball tonight.

twss?

Free Milton

by all4tookie on Nov 3, 2009 6:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Nice pictures tookie

I’m a big fan of fish-eye shots myself; I’ve never really felt jusitified buying a lens for my camera, however (they seem to be universally very expensive) and I’m yet to find anything that’ll do the job digitally. Maybe I need to get photoshop.

Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008

by Felonius_Monk on Nov 4, 2009 7:39 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

we worked on that briefly

but not long enough to get real good with it or anything. Some interesting pictures can come out of it though if you take your time, I love how the objects look like miniatures though

by from First to Third on Nov 3, 2009 5:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I've played with it in Photoshop.

Not as good as the real lenses, but good enough.

More links

http://hame.ca/tiltshift.htm

http://tiltshiftmaker.com/

Now with extra feisty!

by spants on Nov 3, 2009 5:50 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I used the second link to make them

It’s like real life Mr. Rogers.

Free Milton

by all4tookie on Nov 3, 2009 5:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

This one is cool

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Nov 3, 2009 5:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

is that the view from the arch now?

I haven’t been to the Lou since Busch3 was built.

Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008

by Felonius_Monk on Nov 4, 2009 7:22 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

not quite

its Fenway!

Free Milton

by all4tookie on Nov 4, 2009 8:37 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Ha! Somewhere I've actually been!

Unlike Busch III. I don’t remember that big freeway right next to it, although I probably approached it from another angle I suppose.

Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008

by Felonius_Monk on Nov 4, 2009 12:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

In fairness there is a freeway to the south of Busch III

"The Cards lead this game tied 1-1." -Mike Shannon

by ducttape16 on Nov 4, 2009 4:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I figured those little red socks would give that away

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Nov 4, 2009 7:43 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I figured those little red socks would give that away

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Nov 4, 2009 7:43 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I like it a lot too

Best moment I've ever seen at a game in person
"If it was Zoom Zoom'd, we'd be doom doom'd" - making fun of myself for my bad luck streak in the 2009 season
Looking forward to Cardinals baseball in 2010!

by zoomzoomj88 on Nov 3, 2009 6:40 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

crazy

everything looks like toys and miniature models. anyone know what this effect is called? I want to find more pics like it http://iax.podomatic.com/mymedia/thumb/14547/460%3E_2056991.gif

by rig99 on Nov 4, 2009 2:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I can't believe this has escaped posting.

if i were tempted to root for the yanks over the phillies (i’m not), just this photo would dissuade me.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on Nov 3, 2009 5:57 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

They've been doing that all season.

But hey – they don’t have facial hair so they’re still classy!

Now with extra feisty!

by spants on Nov 3, 2009 5:58 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Link fail

Sorry. I blame the new format.

Free Milton

by all4tookie on Nov 3, 2009 6:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Um, yeah WOW

just wash your hands before you eat dude, that’s all i got.

by from First to Third on Nov 3, 2009 6:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

that must be how centaurs greet each other.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on Nov 3, 2009 6:30 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Anybody see that

Hoffpauir was claimed by Toronto?
Stinky Linky

by jxmetal1 on Nov 3, 2009 6:44 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

hadn't heard the hoff got put on waivers. makes sense, though.

that’s one more spot on the 40-man for them not to use for allen craig.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on Nov 3, 2009 6:46 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

even though craig should be on the roster

I just hate the idea of Freese being our starting 3B. Can’t they try to sign someone? Or, since they have him… why don’t they FREE ALLEN CRAIG!

Best moment I've ever seen at a game in person
"If it was Zoom Zoom'd, we'd be doom doom'd" - making fun of myself for my bad luck streak in the 2009 season
Looking forward to Cardinals baseball in 2010!

by zoomzoomj88 on Nov 3, 2009 6:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I just saw that.

and it makes me sad :(

Best moment I've ever seen at a game in person
"If it was Zoom Zoom'd, we'd be doom doom'd" - making fun of myself for my bad luck streak in the 2009 season
Looking forward to Cardinals baseball in 2010!

by zoomzoomj88 on Nov 3, 2009 6:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

confirmed on the mothership.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on Nov 3, 2009 6:47 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

and

MLBTR

Best moment I've ever seen at a game in person
"If it was Zoom Zoom'd, we'd be doom doom'd" - making fun of myself for my bad luck streak in the 2009 season
Looking forward to Cardinals baseball in 2010!

by zoomzoomj88 on Nov 3, 2009 6:50 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Don't worry

it’s the Blue Jays. They have a hard-on for unusable Cardinal players….who then usually end up back with the Cardinals. See Haerther, Cody.

"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller

by fourstick on Nov 3, 2009 7:09 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

haerther's the only one I can think of who returned. but lots of useless chips have gone up there.

mike maroth.
eckstein.
rolen was only temporarily useless.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on Nov 3, 2009 7:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

nooooo not The Hoff!

Are you sure it wasn’t Micah?

Oh, Jarrett Lee. We hardly knew ye.

He arrived late to his first game. He was coming from Albuquerque. Tony didn’t play him.

"Chaos," said Jarrett Hoffpauir, in a Southern accent that shows his Mississippi roots.
      Two nights ago, the 26-year-old was with the Memphis Redbirds in New Orleans, helping his team to a 6-3 win. The next morning the team traveled to Albequerque, where Hoffpauir said he received a call between 11 and 11:30 that he would be joining the big league club for Wednesday night’s game.
      When the game went into extra innings, Cards manager Tony LaRussa gave the young infielder a bit of a scare.
      "He got me up, got me loose, got that fluid going," Hoffpauir said.

Albert called you Hoffy.
http://stlouis.cardinals.mlb.com/media/video.jsp?content_id=5388601

“I was just trying to get on base,” Hoffpauir said. “We had the best hitter in baseball coming up. You’re nervous in the on-deck circle, but you tell yourself to settle down and that you’ve done this before — just not at this level.”

Yadi pied you in the face.
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/3033481/comeback_cards/

http://stlouis.cardinals.mlb.com/media/video.jsp?content_id=5528389

Then, what, some guy had to come back and you were sent down. Tony sat you down and said it wasn’t personal.

"LaRussa had a good talk with him and told him that it’s nothing he’s done or hasn’t done," [the elder] Hoffpauir said. "He’s done everything they’ve asked him to do. He told him to be patient, and if something happens, he’ll be back."
He may have even remembered your name.


Damn.

Hugs from Boog.

Farewell Not-Micah-No-Relation. You’ve probably never been that far north; bring mittens.

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 3, 2009 8:25 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

of course with the wonders of the post-dispatch

I can’t find the exact quote where he said his knees were shaking.

!@*$~%*$# that site is hard to search.

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 3, 2009 8:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

so daniel descalso ftw?

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

by VolsnCards5 on Nov 3, 2009 8:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

by the time we think of a nickname for him, he'll be gone.

[glum]

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 3, 2009 8:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i like "shoeless" - a pun on his spanish name.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on Nov 3, 2009 8:34 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

the Natchez Democrat is so much better.

http://www.natchezdemocrat.com/news/2009/jul/05/hoffpauir-living-big-league-dream/

this too:
http://www.natchezdemocrat.com/news/2009/jul/02/hoffpauir-called-big-leagues/

"The manager told him, ‘Jarrett, you’ve been traded,’" [his dad] Johnny Lee Hoffpauir said. "He said, ‘You’ve been traded to St. Louis, you’re going to the big club.’"

…dude, when was he a pitcher?
http://www.natchezdemocrat.com/news/2001/apr/27/hoffpauir-no-hits-jackson/

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 3, 2009 8:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

freaking BS...

we didn’t even get anything for him?!? How about Vernon Wells and a duffle bag with $115 million in it…

MB for LF in 2010!

by guayzimi on Nov 3, 2009 8:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

you're thinking of boston there.

the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus

by tom s. on Nov 3, 2009 9:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

we love our red sox

Jo-El, Smoltz, Lugo… and we got rid of he-who-is-Dave’s-son

Best moment I've ever seen at a game in person
"If it was Zoom Zoom'd, we'd be doom doom'd" - making fun of myself for my bad luck streak in the 2009 season
Looking forward to Cardinals baseball in 2010!

by zoomzoomj88 on Nov 3, 2009 9:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Also - Thurston and Scherer outrighted; Thompson released

The Scherer move cost the Cards Perdomo last year. MO has to do better this November with mgmt of the 40 man roster.

Puppy Kicker free to sign with any team.

by ubeddie on Nov 4, 2009 10:54 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

PK gone

well well well. Maybe this is Mo’s team after all.

The Scherer move was bad in the first place, inexcusable, almost, in fact. Regardless of whether he was outrighted or not he is never going to be better than a replacement-level reliever at MLB level, i.e. worthless filler.

Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008

by Felonius_Monk on Nov 4, 2009 12:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I just posted this as a fanshot

knowing full well I was most likely nexdef’d. So don’t make fun of me too hard.

"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog

"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009

by andi_k on Nov 4, 2009 2:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

With Holliday possibly leaving........

how attractive is Cody Ross? Seems like an affordable replacement that shouldn’t cost a ton, but I also know the Marlins don’t like small returns.

by jxmetal1 on Nov 3, 2009 7:05 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Too many CR's.

Tony would get even more confused.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Nov 3, 2009 7:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

there can be only one

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 3, 2009 8:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

and Tony gets confused with one CR

Two would be a catastrophe

Best moment I've ever seen at a game in person
"If it was Zoom Zoom'd, we'd be doom doom'd" - making fun of myself for my bad luck streak in the 2009 season
Looking forward to Cardinals baseball in 2010!

by zoomzoomj88 on Nov 3, 2009 9:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'd be OK with two Colbys...

PS-the Corky Romano meme is getting confusing. It took me a moment to realize Cody Ross was a different guy.

Offseason Rumors : Me :: Unicorn Blood : Voldemort

by Cardinals645 on Nov 4, 2009 2:02 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Me too.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Nov 4, 2009 11:23 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Wait a minute

Are you two telling me you can’t tell the difference between Corduroy Retail and Colorado Rodriguez and Cody Ross? For shame.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Nov 4, 2009 11:29 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Some people would totally call him Cody Ross.

That’s why I always call him Colby. And because I like that name.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Nov 4, 2009 11:32 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It would be confusing, to be sure.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Nov 4, 2009 11:41 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I had to be told that there's a real Cody Ransom

This is how Colby’s name turns into Boromir….

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 4, 2009 12:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

same here

But it’s still my favorite VEB meme. I giggle every time I say or read “corky ramos”.

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Nov 4, 2009 3:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

it's supposed to be confusing

how else are we all supposed to feel like Tony LaRussa?

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Nov 4, 2009 7:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Coldy Rossmus

I like it.
Hey rook, go to the fridge and get me a coldy, would you?

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Nov 3, 2009 9:45 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Has anyone else found it quite difficult to log out under this new format?

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

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by mattyfrommo on Nov 3, 2009 8:45 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

why would you ever want to log out?

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Nov 3, 2009 8:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

...so who are you really?

hey! That’s not Ludwick!

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 3, 2009 9:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I have a steel chair!

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

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by mattyfrommo on Nov 3, 2009 9:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

What is this logging out that you mention?

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Nov 3, 2009 9:43 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

and obviously you people don't appreciate good potty humour

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

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by mattyfrommo on Nov 3, 2009 9:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Already?

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by ClemsonGirl on Nov 3, 2009 10:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

We should just be happy it's only this early...

If it starts happening before Halloween there should be an air strike called in that radio station… just my opinion…

"The Cards lead this game tied 1-1." -Mike Shannon

by ducttape16 on Nov 3, 2009 10:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

My Christmas music schedule looks like this:

From January 5-7 ish until Halloween automatic skip on the iPod.
From Halloween until Thanksgiving I won’t skip it if it comes on but I don’t actively seek it out.
From Thanksgiving until January 5-7 ish Christmas music… a lot of the time, if not all the time.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Nov 3, 2009 10:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

My Christmas music schedule looks like this:
  1. No Christmas music.
  2. If confused, please see #1.

"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller

by fourstick on Nov 4, 2009 10:12 AM EST up reply actions   3 recs

Fuddy duddy

I think someone needs to have a nice cup of eggnog and some roasted chestnuts and sit down by the fire to watch White Christmas. Everybody loves them some Bing Crosby, am I right?
No?…
Fine then…

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Nov 4, 2009 10:34 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

only with Bowie

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 4, 2009 11:02 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Truly a classic

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Nov 4, 2009 11:21 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It's much more epic and relevant that that.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Nov 4, 2009 1:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

She...packed my..........bags.

"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus

by hazel on Nov 4, 2009 2:47 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

that's where my mind went

I'm like a polygon, I'm edgy.

"OHHHHH!!!!!!! IT TASTES. SO. GOOD!!!!!!!!!!"
-BOOOOOOOOG

by slu on Nov 4, 2009 5:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Ever work retail?

That’s what killed it for me.

"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog

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by andi_k on Nov 4, 2009 2:40 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

They could have at least had

the decompression of Snoop doing Holy Night… In other news I absolutely hate Christmas music short of Porky Pig’s Blue Christmas, and the South Park Christmas album…

"The Cards lead this game tied 1-1." -Mike Shannon

by ducttape16 on Nov 3, 2009 10:09 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

see, we can be friends again

and rec’d

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

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by mattyfrommo on Nov 3, 2009 10:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Wait we weren't friends?

I have a hard time remembering which of my internet friends I’ve pissed off..

"The Cards lead this game tied 1-1." -Mike Shannon

by ducttape16 on Nov 3, 2009 10:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You gave him a 5 minute probation I believe.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Nov 3, 2009 10:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah I was a bit behind on scrolling through the comments...

I apologize and will give myself a 5 minute probation for that…

"The Cards lead this game tied 1-1." -Mike Shannon

by ducttape16 on Nov 3, 2009 10:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

you better send yourself one of those notes

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

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by mattyfrommo on Nov 3, 2009 10:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

My favorite Christmas song

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKhJ9IQdWQ8

And, in a related story, this week marked the 5,000th performance of the Broadway musical "Cats." It also marked the 5,000th time a guy turned to his wife and said, "What the hell is this?"

by jd is legend on Nov 4, 2009 12:12 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I blame Clear Channel

I’ve been so far removed from St. Louis media for so long that I’m not sure who owned the station, but I’m sure Clear Channel should be blamed somehow. In fact, all mass media and telecommunications companies in the St. Louis area should be beaten to a pulp by and angry crowd each armed with a rubber phallus.

"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5

"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.

by Tudor's Electric Fan on Nov 3, 2009 10:11 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm still pretty pissed about what they've done to 103.3

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Nov 3, 2009 10:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The River anyone?

Why did that station go away?

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by ClemsonGirl on Nov 3, 2009 10:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

it's espn now, isn't it?

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 3, 2009 10:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Now.

But in between there was that awful Movin station. I still would rather have the River but ESPN is my second choice.

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by ClemsonGirl on Nov 3, 2009 10:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

that makes me sad

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 3, 2009 10:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I mean I'm not as mad as I used to be.

Really they could have gotten rid of some other station and put ESPN on. I liked the River, it was the best. And now I just listen to my iPod anyway.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Nov 3, 2009 10:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

it was really different when it first came on

then it got tamed, more and more.

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 3, 2009 10:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The River or ESPN?

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Nov 3, 2009 10:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The River

how old were you anyway when it debuted
if i may ask

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 3, 2009 10:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

When did it debut?

I’ve been listening to it for as long as I can remember.

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by ClemsonGirl on Nov 3, 2009 10:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

...never mind

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 3, 2009 10:24 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

From what I can tell...

I was 5 when it became WVRV. I do remember it used to be different but I don’t remember how. But it played steve and dc and when I drove to swimming at 5:30 in the morning i liked listening to them. That was the worst part of changing to movin.

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by ClemsonGirl on Nov 3, 2009 10:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

There was a station that came on in Champaign as "Classic Alternative"

It took about 3 weeks for them to start playing Fall Out Boy… it was a bit sad for someone who firmly believes 1994 was the best year of music in his life…

"The Cards lead this game tied 1-1." -Mike Shannon

by ducttape16 on Nov 3, 2009 10:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

the 90s were great

until all the variety was killed off. like big game hunts.

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 3, 2009 10:24 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

One of my buddies recently found...

the Q101 (Chicago’s 105.7 more or less) Top 101 songs of each year from 93-08. The 90s stuff amazing… aughts not so much… still an awesome torrent find by him. I’ve been listening to a bunch of it lately and been rather happy.

"The Cards lead this game tied 1-1." -Mike Shannon

by ducttape16 on Nov 3, 2009 10:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Cities 97's great if you're up in minn/st. paul

they’re eclectic yet mainstream. and lots of artist interviews and community events and support for indie movements. also online, I believe.

"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Nov 3, 2009 10:32 PM EST up reply actions