Travel Day
I'm about to begin the seemingly endless travel process between Tokyo and O'Hare, and I feel totally disconnected from American baseball. But some bullet points while I pack:
- Can I say, as an unrepentant baseball-card watcher, that I love C.C. Sabathia? This is one of my least favorite things about the Rick Ankiel saga: we were deprived of the chance to watch him begin a career as a 20-year-old pitcher with double-digit victories and a high strikeout total. Sabathia won 17 games at 20, which is great; he stayed above .500 during the leaner years, always winning at least ten games, which is crucial; and now he's working on a nice-looking peak. Albert aside—just look at it—he's probably got the most aesthetically pleasing baseball card of any active player. Things to work on: don't get traded midseason again, because it always looks messy, and use the MLB-leading win total in 2009 to begin racking up the black ink, because right now it's a little sparse.
- Having started there, on more neutral ground, can I also say that I don't mind if the Yankees win this World Series? Call it residual, retroactive angst from a certain World Series in 2004, but I don't think I've ever minded the Yankees all that much; they are, if nothing else, totally forthright in their ability and intentions to use their financial capabilities as often as possible, and columnists don't have to chew up inches whining about failures to open up the Steinbillfold. It's also made my postseason to watch said columnists backtrack on their long-standing hypothesis that Alex Rodriguez's bat contains all the universe's known reserves of anticlutch.
- That said, the Phillies do play in the National League, and they also have my favorite non-Cardinal, Chase Utley. While I'm on the subject of baseball card aesthetics, how about Chase Utley's 2009? .280 average, 31 home runs, 150 games, and 23 stolen bases in 23 attempts. Your better sets will also bold his third league-leading HBP total in a row. The only thing that's missing are the seven RBI that kept him from driving in 100 runners for a fifth straight year; for that I will cast a stern glance in the direction of the Jimmy Rollins card.
- Finally, I saw Yu Darvish pitch last night in the second game of the Japan Series. Watching an NPB playoff game on Japanese TV is a decidedly different experience from watching it on FOX; for a country whose glossy TV tarento include the likes of Razor Ramon Hard Gay and this fish-hatted man, baseball broadcasting seems rooted, for better and for worse, in the late eighties. So I didn't get a million camera angles, but I came away impressed by what was apparently his first game appearance in a month and a half. Without the upper-nineties velocity he sometimes flashes, he looked something like Adam Wainwright, huge curve and all.
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Oh no; there goes Tokyo.
Go, go, Godzilla!
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by vexedtechie on Nov 2, 2009 7:36 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
i have to say that i didnt even notice you were gone
and i dont, at all, mean that in a negative way. you have done an outstanding job of keeping us entertained while you were in a far off land when most people would have just said “ill see ya when i get back”…so kudos to you Danny-boy. i for one (but know im not the only one) truly appreciate it!!!
Chicago Cubs: The first century was funny...this second one is just sad...
by nomar34 on Nov 2, 2009 8:22 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
God I Hate the Yankees....
…a bad end to an unfortunate season.
<grumble, grumble, grumble>
:=8/
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
by The MooCow on Nov 2, 2009 9:03 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
It's not over
After all, Kansas City came back from a 3-1 hole to win the World Series in 85, and the umpiring is setting up for a cataclysmic bad call again…
by olddomination on Nov 2, 2009 9:28 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think Lee will carry them in Game 5
To get the series back to New York and maybe Pedro wins Game 6….but then it’s Hamels in Game 7, and even shitty umpiring can’t help him right now.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on Nov 2, 2009 9:36 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
But wasn't it awesome to see Lidge with the loss?
I’ve been waiting all World Series for a Brad Lidge meltdown. I imagine to myself Andy Petitte is sitting in the dugout telling Jeter, “oh yeah, I’ve seen this before.”
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
by IHeartBoog on Nov 2, 2009 11:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Another edition of Great Moments in Pitching "Wins":
Joba Chamberlain gets the W for game 4!
Free Milton
by all4tookie on Nov 2, 2009 9:18 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Or, if you prefer,
Another example of how rate statistics denominated in outs can be misleading
Free Milton
by all4tookie on Nov 2, 2009 9:22 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The equivalent of 1,000 words:
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Nov 2, 2009 9:51 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Did I just watch Game 2 of the NLDS again?
Two quick outs by struggling closer…long at bat resulting in a base hit to left…hijinks…run scoring hit.
2006 proved it; the only way to hide your terrible closer is to IR him.
by olddomination on Nov 2, 2009 9:25 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
A lot of closers have struggled this postseason.
Broxton, Fuentes, Franklin (despite his 0.00 ERA), Nathan…
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Nov 2, 2009 9:52 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Street
Really weird how non-clutch the closers have been in the postseason save Rivera.
My halloween costume: the Indiana secondary iPhone- no matter how much you want to love it, you know the coverage area sucks.
-ChronicHoosier
by Taskmaster on Nov 2, 2009 10:30 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ken Tremendous
Mariano Rivera doesn’t pitch. He puts his hand over your mouth and nose and whispers “Shhhhh” as you slowly disappear into sleep.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Nov 2, 2009 10:39 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Rivera = Haitian on "Heroes"
has the ability to wipe your memories clean.
Proud sponsor of the Official 2009 StL Cardinal theme song: Reason to Believe
by gocards62 on Nov 2, 2009 11:46 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That is my favorite.
KT is one of the best things about Twitter.
by spants on Nov 2, 2009 12:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
that is just awesome
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by gdm426 on Nov 2, 2009 4:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
this perfectly sums up how I feel about this series, the Yankees, and A-Rod
Having started there, on more neutral ground, can I also say that I don’t mind if the Yankees win this World Series? Call it residual, retroactive angst from a certain World Series in 2004, but I don’t think I’ve ever minded the Yankees all that much; they are, if nothing else, totally forthright in their ability and intentions to use their financial capabilities as often as possible, and columnists don’t have to chew up inches whining about failures to open up the Steinbillfold. It’s also made my postseason to watch said columnists backtrack on their long-standing hypothesis that Alex Rodriguez’s bat contains all the universe’s known reserves of anticlutch.
The Yankees spending is nowhere near as offensive as the Red Sox playing the $140M underdog card at every turn. RE: A-Rod, however, I haven’t seen much backtracking as much as discussion of how he’s “finally figured it out,” but I’ll take what I can get.
by brackenthebox on Nov 2, 2009 10:05 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
A-Rod
If he truly has two self-commissioned portraits of himself as a centaur, it is the funniest fact about a ballplayer I’ve ever heard.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Nov 2, 2009 10:20 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
At least go for a little variety
One centaur self-portrait, sure, but there’s room to grow after that. Might I suggest a griffin for the next round? Or even a pegataur if you’re going for a one-off from the centaur. These portraits reflect the lack of imagination we’ve all seen from A-Rod. I bet Jeter has a fantastical zoo of self portraits.
by brackenthebox on Nov 2, 2009 10:26 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That A-Rod
So Minotaur-headed sometimes.
Free Milton
by all4tookie on Nov 2, 2009 10:28 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
He's a modern chimera
Is he a heroic lion? A devious snake? We know that he’s very often a goat.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Nov 2, 2009 10:48 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He has the body of Alex Rodriguez
with the head of A-Rod.
by brackenthebox on Nov 2, 2009 10:50 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I *hope* that there is variety.
My hope is that, maybe, there’s one of him with Heracles and one of him battling the Lapiths. I guess what I’m saying is that I hope A-Rod has done extensive centaur research and commissioned portraits of him in mythical centaur battles because he, like Patton, believes that he was there, fighting with the centaurs.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Nov 2, 2009 10:36 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
How about some Hercules: The Legendary Journeys episodes
with him green-screened in?
by brackenthebox on Nov 2, 2009 10:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Kevin Sorbo FTW!
Chicago Cubs: The first century was funny...this second one is just sad...
by nomar34 on Nov 2, 2009 10:43 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That just made my day
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Nov 2, 2009 10:33 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
what pisses me off most about this story
is that i learned Jeter is getting married to Minka Kelly by clicking on it…FNL will be a little tougher to watch now…
Chicago Cubs: The first century was funny...this second one is just sad...
by nomar34 on Nov 2, 2009 10:48 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
To that I give Jeter his due
Good for him. He seems like a nice enough guy. It’s not like he is responsible for the way the media drools over him.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Nov 2, 2009 10:55 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
True
I don’t know that Minka Kelly is, but I don’t hate Derek Jeter. What I hate is “Derek Jeter,” with a passion.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Nov 2, 2009 10:59 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
do you shave with Gillette?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 2, 2009 11:03 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I do.
But more because of Roger Federer.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Nov 2, 2009 11:06 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
he is pretty smooth.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 2, 2009 11:08 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Again...
how does Derek Jeter even belong in that commercial? Federer may be the greatest tennis player of all time, Woods is the greatest golfer or all time, and Thierry Henry is the best striker in the last 25 years in the EPL.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on Nov 2, 2009 11:12 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
well they finally did show something that was remotely plausible
when he ran out a fly ball and mashed his face on the seats. apparently his face takes so much abuse he shouldn’t have to get it from his razor.
so Jeter’s value is in his face meeting fixed objects.
…. and even THEN Boog has him beat. Geez.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 2, 2009 11:15 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Jeter is the most marketable MLB player.
by spants on Nov 2, 2009 12:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If by marketable, you mean likeable American who plays fairly well in New York
Than I guess I agree with you.
Then again, I’m of the persuasion that if Derek Jeter played his career anywhere else, he’d be somewhere between Omar Vizquel and Craig Biggio in terms of fame and fortune.
by bailorg on Nov 2, 2009 12:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He is actually
the most marketable. He makes a ton of money for endorsements, more than any baseball player last I checked. He’s multi-cultural, he’s good looking, he doesn’t have off-field drama, he isn’t caught up in PED scandal, he’s a Yankee… Marketable.
by spants on Nov 2, 2009 12:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
come on now
I think Jeter is a bit overrated but he is most certainly more valuable than either of those guys. Hell, his wOBA is nearly 20 points higher than either Ripken or Biggio. His UZR/150 is -4.5 over the second part of his career so I assume it must have been higher when he was young. The fact that he is still this good of a hitter (which he is), plays a premium position at this age is remarkeable. And his defense this year was good.
He may be overhyped but he will be a VERY well-deserving hall of famer. Find another shortstop with the career numbers that Jeter has as a hitter who played there longer than 10 years. The list will be extremely short.
by eglasier on Nov 2, 2009 4:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Barry Larkin
If Larkin retires in 2000, like he should have, his career OPS would be about .833. Jeter’s is .847. Larkin played his whole career in Cincinnati and his prime was nearly as good as Jeter’s was, and he was a much better defender than Jeter has ever been.
Had Barry Larkin played for the Yankees his whole career, he’s a surefire HOF player. He should still get in, but he won’t be a first ballot guy, and he was never as marketable as Jeter because he played for a team that was pretty fucking terrible for most of his career.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on Nov 2, 2009 4:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Similarity Score
On baseball-reference.com, Jeter is Larkin’s #4 Similar. And, for Jeter, Larkin is his #1 Similar. (Of course, Larkin does have an MVP, which Jeter doesn’t.)
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Nov 2, 2009 4:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree that
you could also argue that Larkin is severely underrated. All I’m saying is that he is probably one of the best shortstops of all time while also being overrated. Guys like Ripken were just as overrated yet not scorned as much as Jeter. I just don’t understand it. He puts up really good numbers at a premium position. Mauer deserves the MVP. I still think Jeter is at least a top 5 MVP guy this year if not #2.
by eglasier on Nov 2, 2009 5:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think that Cal is nearly as
overrated as Jeter.
Ripken is revered because he’s viewed as a guy who worked his ass off to become as good as he did while not being as physically gifted as a lot of other players. Cal was the best SS of his era and arguably one of the better SS of all time. He’s the only guy to win two MVP’s while playing the SS position. He also happened to play in 2500+ consecutive games….
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on Nov 2, 2009 6:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
cal was what 6'4 225lbs?
how can someone be built like that & not be considered physically gifted? wasn’t it because of him that the SS position became based on O instead of D?
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by gdm426 on Nov 2, 2009 6:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i thought it was f'n ernie banks or aka mr. cubbie
And now a scene from seinfeld
ELAINE: [mind] Who does this guy think he is?
KEITH: [mind] I'm Keith Hernandez.
by CodyG on Nov 2, 2009 6:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Have you read
George Wills’ “Men at Work”? The amount of work he had to do to prepare for every game so that he could play at the level that other SS did. He put up 3B numbers at SS while playing above average defense at that position.
I was merely saying that he isn’t as overrated as Jeter, not by a long shot.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on Nov 2, 2009 6:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
funny you mention that, i just started it yesterday.
i wanted to read it before the season to get a better idea about Tony & all. but i forgot. i found it under a pile of stuff & started it. i got as far as the forward & the front & back cover
anyway, i knew he had an excellent work ethic, i just assumed his was naturally athletic. and i never thought he was overrated.
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by gdm426 on Nov 2, 2009 6:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not convinced Ripken was a good defender
but that’s probably on limited exposure.
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by Felonius_Monk on Nov 3, 2009 1:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agree
But baseball isn’t a marketable sport. Period. The other three guys are marketable figures in sports that have world-wide appeal. It would make more sense to put Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, or Dwayne Wade
I would venture to say that there are few people in the EU or China who even know who Derek Jeter is…
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on Nov 2, 2009 2:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
they know that he plays for an obscure American baseball team
by brackenthebox on Nov 2, 2009 2:49 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Does the Chinese government allow Twitter?
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Nov 2, 2009 2:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Indeed, sir
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on Nov 2, 2009 3:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Derek Jeter isn't on the Gillette adverts outside of the states
so that point is moot. The EU commercials just have Henry, Federer and Woods. Actually, I assumed that Jeter was the replacement for Henry in the USA, as I assume Henry isn’t especially well known by the general non-sports viewing public.
Still, yeah, Bryant might’ve been better, but I think they were going for athletes of a certain age and with a certain image, and Kobe probably doesn’t fit into that as well as the other guys (all four of the guys on the advert seem fairly reasonable and have been pretty non-controversial in general, whilst Kobe seems a bit of a tool and probably isn’t as well liked).
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Nov 3, 2009 1:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, Kobe probably has too much baggage for the image they want in that campaign.
And I remember the original commercials, even in the U.S., had Thierry Henry, not Jeter. The ones with Jeter replacing him came after. Clearly some ad executives said “people don’t know who this ‘Awn-ree’ guy is, we gotta get somebody more American, like Captain Jeter!”
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Nov 4, 2009 9:33 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually I use an electric and I don't use any sort of product on my skin
but if I did use a blade I would have to avoid Gillette out of principle.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Nov 2, 2009 11:09 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
then your principles are safe
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 2, 2009 11:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
perfect...
If you see a guy open the car door for his girlfriend, either the car is new or the girlfriend is.
by cardzfanbub on Nov 2, 2009 1:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think she's going to be on the next season of FNL,
if that helps.
by peach concrete on Nov 2, 2009 2:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah she's only going to be in maybe 4 episodes to say goodbye
they are doing that for most of the original cast the past two seasons
and they aren’t officially getting married yet. so you still have some hope if you want it
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by gdm426 on Nov 2, 2009 4:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What I think was worse
was for som many years the Phils would cry poor.
they have the largest market that only has one team.
by Harknights on Nov 2, 2009 10:39 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought Houston...
was ahead of them on the “market” scale…but I get your point.
If you see a guy open the car door for his girlfriend, either the car is new or the girlfriend is.
by cardzfanbub on Nov 2, 2009 1:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Houston's defintely a bigger city, but apparently not a bigger market
by brackenthebox on Nov 2, 2009 1:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I had no idea that St. Louis was considered that large of a market.
Future Redbirds - tracking Cardinal prospects for Cardinal Nation
by azruavatar on Nov 2, 2009 2:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Rene Knott draws a lot of water.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Nov 2, 2009 2:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I honestly don't know what that means.
Future Redbirds - tracking Cardinal prospects for Cardinal Nation
by azruavatar on Nov 2, 2009 3:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He's big time!
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Nov 2, 2009 5:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i'm surprised pitt, portland & indy are right behind STL
pitt & indy are really small for a “big” town. and from what i’ve been told so is portland. there. and there’s no way KC is ahead of cbus & natti. both are way bigger areas. there has to be a lot wrong with how they come up with those numbers.
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by gdm426 on Nov 2, 2009 4:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
Portland is like a really big small town. It even has a small town feel. And a metro area of 2 million +.
God, I love this city.
by mattisnotfrench on Nov 2, 2009 11:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Indy's really not that small...
…quite a bustling downtown and the metro area, really, is quite large.
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by vexedtechie on Nov 2, 2009 11:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I mean, in reality, STL's population is only 100k more than Fort Wayne
Indy itself is top 15 in CITY population, whereas STL is around 50
Metro areas, STL is 20ish and Indy is 30ish
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by vexedtechie on Nov 2, 2009 11:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i've lost track of how many times i've been to indy
and it just doesn’t seem that big to me
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by gdm426 on Nov 2, 2009 11:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Shoot, the loop around the city, 465, is 52ish miles...
…half the distance from my house to the loop
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by vexedtechie on Nov 2, 2009 11:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i hate how slow the speed limit is on 465 & 70
that drives me nuts. it should be 65 & 55, not 50 & 45. it’d be alright if there weren’t cops everywhere to. that town has more po po than any town i’ve ever driven through other than DC
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by gdm426 on Nov 2, 2009 11:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I've never met somebody who drives 45 on the loop
Honestly, i think it was bumped up to 55 last year. Anyway, I always take that loop on the left lane around 75.
I’ve never once seen a cop on 465 or 70…and when marching band season is in effect, I go down to Indy every weekend.
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by vexedtechie on Nov 2, 2009 11:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
6ly? every time i'm in town i'm followed by cops
they see the ohio plates & are just begging me to screw up
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by gdm426 on Nov 2, 2009 11:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well there's your problem.
Indiana hates Ohio and vice versa.
…I hate driving thru Ohio. Especially 80/90 and through Antwerp. Cops every 15 miles it seems…
At least we’re not Michigan drivers…
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by vexedtechie on Nov 2, 2009 11:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
don't even get me started on that state up north
i actually like indiana a lot more than here.
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by gdm426 on Nov 3, 2009 12:01 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm going to Indiana for Thanksgiving.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 3, 2009 12:01 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
mazel tov
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by gdm426 on Nov 3, 2009 12:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
shama lama laken
And now a scene from seinfeld
ELAINE: [mind] Who does this guy think he is?
KEITH: [mind] I'm Keith Hernandez.
by CodyG on Nov 3, 2009 12:03 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Where to?
And WHY?! This state is aggressively mediocre.
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by vexedtechie on Nov 3, 2009 12:03 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Carmel.
My aunt and uncle and cousins live there and they are having Thanksgiving this year.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 3, 2009 12:04 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Carmel's a reeeeeal nice town.
…also our “rival” in marching band… lol back and forth every year; hate that school…errrr….college campus.
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by vexedtechie on Nov 3, 2009 12:06 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
6ly.
That school is huge. That’s why my cousin went to Mizzou and not some of the smaller, private schools she was looking at because they were smaller than her high school.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 3, 2009 12:08 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
For those reading and unknowning
…look at the size of this school…
Satellite Image
Birds-Eye Image
Football stadium is to the north…
Anyway, that school had a perfect grass field. Even deep into the football season… Ours never went wrong, seeing as we had FieldTurf, but I still can’t get past the size of that school.
BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
by vexedtechie on Nov 3, 2009 12:12 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
you got your Carmel in my Hershey
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by gdm426 on Nov 3, 2009 12:08 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
that's what she said.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
by rocKStark5 on Nov 4, 2009 2:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Amen on the Yankees sentiment
I think in my case it stems from a dislike of the Red Sox that makes me tolerate the Yankees by comparison.
Because, after all, if the Yankees weren’t the Yankees, then the Red Sox would be the Yankees. Never forget that.
by arch support on Nov 2, 2009 10:33 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
yup. After "red sox nation"
Became Evil Empire Jr. and acted like they invented the game, most fans that don’t have a inferiority complex shifted their hate from the Yanks to the Sox.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
by rocKStark5 on Nov 4, 2009 2:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Mmmmm
Another Adam Wainwright, sounds good :)
I have to agree with the Yankees sentiment. I hate the Phillies and the city more in general than I do New York. If you had that much money on your payroll, you would use it too :0. Ever since the Cards/Phils series where I saw those laser beams the fans held, I have held so much hatred for that team.
As for Chase Utley personally, I really like him as a baseball player, I mean, who doesn’t, but I don’t really know much about him personally. So while I may wish I had Utley or Kinsler somewhere in our line up (sad face), I can’t really say they are a good person, unless it’s Ryan Braun, then I at least know he’s a douche :)
My halloween costume: the Indiana secondary iPhone- no matter how much you want to love it, you know the coverage area sucks.
-ChronicHoosier
by Taskmaster on Nov 2, 2009 10:36 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Utley's vaselined 1950's greaser hairdo tells me all I need to know.
I am a fan of his as a player and as a person.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Nov 2, 2009 10:38 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
better
The product is L.A. Looks.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 2, 2009 10:43 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
what I want to know
is did DanUp fit Yu Darvish in his suitcase
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 2, 2009 10:39 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Darvish came willingly
Dan brought So Taguchi to help with the “negotiations,” and they went smoothly. But all parties agreed that actually getting Darvish out of the country and into the U.S. would require unusual methods, hence the suitcase.
At all costs, we need to keep Carp away from said suitcase until we are able to explain the situations. We don’t want any injuries before the guy even pitches for us.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Nov 2, 2009 10:40 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Meh
I wouldn’t advise getting too excited for NPB pitchers. Matsuzaka was supposed to have at least 3 if not 5 or 6 “above average to plus” pitches all with command. Reality? 88-93 straight as an arrow, a decent slider, a cutter, a sorta usable changeup, a redundant bad splitter, a 2-seam he can’t control and then he nibbles off the plate—-needing MLBers to chase to be successful is not the strategy of pretty much every ace. A 4.30 FIP and a shoulder injury adjusting to every 5th day instead of 7th and you have 100M that could have been spent on I dunno, Gil Meche for half the price at the time.
To dominate and be worthy of the contract he’d get, you have to be able to throw a fastball for strikes (while presumably not getting hammered) in the MLB—-it’s a fastball league and Wainwright of 2009 is an exception not the rule. Of the top 20 pitchers in FIP in 2009, 18 had positive wFBs (Nolasco being the other exception). None of the Japanese pitchers who have come over have been establish-the-fastball types and I doubt Darvish is. A Wainwright comp on an NPB pitcher actually scares me more than anything.
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Nov 2, 2009 2:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Pujols wins Hank Aaron Award for NL
Jeter for the AL…
In related news, Joe Mauer is trying to figure out what the fuck he has to do to win an award for anything. You watch, Jeter will somehow get the MVP when he’s the 4th best player on his own team (A-Rod, Tex, CC)….
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on Nov 2, 2009 10:43 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Isn't the award voted on by fans now?
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Nov 2, 2009 10:50 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That's horrible.
Derek Jeter isn’t even the best hitter on the Yankees, and is maybe a top-10 hitter in the AL. Maybe.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Nov 2, 2009 10:52 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He was ninth in wOBA this year...
one point ahead of Shin Soo Choo, J.D. Drew, and Jason Bartlett. Do you see any of those guys winning the Hank Award with a .390 wOBA? Yeah, me neither.
J.D. Drew is termed a failure, but according to the fans, he’s only .001 point of wOBA behind the best offensive player in the American League.
Jeter had a great comeback season, no doubt about it, but Mauer has won 3 of the last 4 batting titles as a CATCHER for fuck’s sake!!!
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on Nov 2, 2009 11:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The Hank Aaron Award isn't even position-adjusted.
What is Jeter overall? Undeserving of Offensive Player of the Year, that’s for sure.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Nov 2, 2009 11:06 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
BTW...
The last catcher to win a batting title before Joe Mauer?
Ernie Lombardi in 1942. No other catcher has ever won more than 1 in the history of baseball, Mauer has 3 in 4 years in the DH league…and has 0 awards to show for it, with the exception of a silver slugger.
Torre won it in 1971, the year after he became a full time third baseman.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on Nov 2, 2009 11:09 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
also, the man is Dreamy
I am told this is important.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 2, 2009 11:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
CHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 2, 2009 12:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Jeter's job seems to be yapping at second base
He talks during the wind-up. He talks when there’s no one there. And don’t even let J.Roll on base because they’re gonna be talking into the next inning.
[Brendan Ryan] muzzled his chatterbox tendencies in the field because Chris Carpenter, for example, frowns on fraternizing with opponents who reach second base.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 2, 2009 10:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
^that wouldn't fly in STL...
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 2, 2009 10:57 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What would Jeter do?
Jeter at SS: “Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.”
Carpenter: “Shut up. I’m dominating opposing batters here.”
Jeter: “But, I’m Derek Jeter.”
Carpenter: “What? Do you think I can’t read a tabloid? I don’t care. I don’t allow my shortstops to be Mr. Social out on the field. Not even ADHD case study Brendan Ryan and have you seen his UZR? I mean, he makes you look like a statue by comparison.”
Jeter: “But, I’m Derek Jeter, Mr. Yankee, great teammate, Mr. Intangibles, Mr. November…”
Carpenter: “You’re going to be Mr. Samsonsite if you don’t shut the %$@# up.”
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Nov 2, 2009 11:05 AM EST up reply actions 11 recs
nah.
Carp wouldn’t talk that much.
It would just be a loud FUCK then everyone would look away.
Two seconds later, broadcast would resume as though nothing had happened.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 2, 2009 11:07 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know...
What Randy Wolf described during Game 1 seemed kind of lengthy.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Nov 2, 2009 11:12 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
hahaha. man, I gotta reprint this from Hardcore
the thread feels bereft without the guy
link
The way I see Carpenter pitching
is Clint Eastwood, crawling across the desert after having been left for dead. Dehydrated, cramping up, skin feeling like it is crawling off his body he stands there at the edge of the town staring down the main street. He’s pissed. He doesn’t care if you were the one that left him in the desert, you just happen to be the one dumb enough to be standing in front of him. He squints. He wipes the massive amount of sweat from his brow. His shoulders hang as if he couldn’t move another inch. Then, he kills you. Sorry, you aren’t the first and you won’t be the last. As long as his body keeps moving forward, more poor saps like you are going to die.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 2, 2009 11:14 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Carp's glare does remind me of The Man With No Name
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Nov 2, 2009 11:29 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
With Boog in at SS.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 2, 2009 12:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
from wikipedia
In 2000, the system was changed to a ballot in which each MLB team’s radio and television play-by-play broadcasters and color analysts voted for three players in each league. Their first place vote receives five points, the second place vote receives three points, and the third place vote receives one point. Beginning in 2003, fans were given the opportunity to vote via MLB’s official website, MLB.com. Fans’ votes account for 30% of the points, while broadcasters’ and analysts’ votes account for the other 70%.
by brackenthebox on Nov 2, 2009 12:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
There is an award
where The Mad Hungarian gets a vote? And it is named for Hank Aaron? This is an outrage!
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Nov 2, 2009 12:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Apparently
John Sterling gets 6 votes every time he says “Swishalicious”.
That’s the only fucking reason I can think of for how Jeter wins this award…
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on Nov 2, 2009 2:51 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
OT: Firefly Fans
Best Buy currently has the Series DVD set for a scant $13. I would suggest trying to find a pick-up store in your area since the website is backordered.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on Nov 2, 2009 10:45 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
That's a steal
Is that less than a dollar per episode? OH NO NOW I’M CRYING UNCONTROLLABLY WHY FOX, WHYYYYYYY???
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Nov 2, 2009 10:49 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ordered it
I’m just having them ship it — I can wait a couple weeks. Thanks for the heads up.
by mojowo11 on Nov 2, 2009 12:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If you do get it
Watch the directors commentary for Objects in Space. One of the best…which is understandable because the episode is one of the best ever.
by Harknights on Nov 2, 2009 5:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
OT: Prospects
One of my favorite parts of the offseason is evaluating the “top” prospects in the system, to see how each year, draft, trades, etc. have changed the landscape. This year has been especially dynamic with the drafting/signing of Miller, signing/voiding of Mateo, and the trades/promotions that took effect. Goold, the only P-Der worth is salt, IMO, has been polling the “community” these last few weeks, and has recently finished the Top 10:
1. Jaime Garcia, LHP (SP)
2. David Freese, 3B
3. Shelby Miller, RHP (SP)
4. Allen Craig, LF
5. Blake Hawksworth, RHP (RP)
6. Daryl Jones, OF
7. Eduardo Sanchez, RHP (RP)
8. Lance Lynn, RHP (SP)
9. Daniel Descalso, 2B
10. Tyler Greene, SS
Obviously, the PD community is one vastly different than the VEB, and I’d like to see what the VEB would put up as the standing Top 10 right now. Others to maybe crack the top 10 (F. Samuel, J. Jay, A. Ottavino, A. Reifer, R. Stock, T. Henley, P. Kozma)?
Just curious what others think.
Stupid Sexy Flanders!!!
by timmycardinals on Nov 2, 2009 11:14 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
My personal T10:
Miller
Garcia
Jones
Freese
Craig
Sanchez
Lynn
Hawksworth
Delasco
Samuel
Admittedly, I tend to side more on “upside” than anything else, though.
Stupid Sexy Flanders!!!
by timmycardinals on Nov 2, 2009 11:16 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If you're big on "upside"
than how is it that Stock isn’t in your top 10? He’s got as much upside as any player in the system not named Shelby Miller.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on Nov 2, 2009 11:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I have no idea who that is, but based on his name alone, I agree
by brackenthebox on Nov 2, 2009 11:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Robert Stock, C/P, USC
We took him with our 2nd pick in the June draft. Only 19 years old, but was already a junior in college. He was essentially Bryce Harper before Bryce Harper was Bryce Harper if that makes any sense.
Throws mid-nineties off the mound but was drafted as a catcher. Has a lot of power but has struggles with plate discipline at times.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on Nov 2, 2009 11:25 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
thanks for the info
I vaguely remember him from the draft now. How does a C/P get brought up? Based on the stats, it looks like they’re trying him at C with the possibility of converting him later if his hitting doesn’t develop? I know virtually nothing about player development, just wondering how things are generally done.
by brackenthebox on Nov 2, 2009 11:34 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
and is he crazy like Motte?
do they have a metric for crazy eyes….?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 2, 2009 11:46 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
no one is as crazy as Motte
Motte really is crazy
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by gdm426 on Nov 2, 2009 5:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My brother in law got to hang w/ Motte on the field before game 3 of the NLDS
said he was super cool and laid back. He introduced his young cousin to Colby and his cousin was star struck, which apparently Motte was fake upset by.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Nov 2, 2009 5:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the really crazy ones can to that
they seem normal & cool, but once they get on the mound look out.
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by gdm426 on Nov 2, 2009 5:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, that's the story
I still remember last year when his girlfriend informed him he looked super crazy on the mound.
he was surprised…..
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 2, 2009 5:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i talk to my glove?!?!?
i’ll always remember the look on his face as the cat was interviewing him & he was telling that story. he really has no idea what goes on once he is handed the ball. it’s almost like he’s possessed by some baseball loving demon or the ghost of ty cobb
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by gdm426 on Nov 2, 2009 5:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
then there's the next level: GOGGLES OFF.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 2, 2009 5:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
OVER 9000!?
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
by hazel on Nov 2, 2009 8:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
IIRC
Stock wants to catch, and the Cards are going to let him try, but they are higher on him as a pitcher.
"Everyone in here comes to the yard ready to play every day. I’ll take this group, any day until the day I die."
"This whole Cardinals thing.....I don’t know if you guys are a believer, but I’m a believer."
~ Ryan Fucking Ludwick
by RiverRat on Nov 2, 2009 11:59 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
From what I understand,
he’s going to be a catcher until he proves that he can’t hit, then they’ll try him as a starting pitcher, then a relief pitcher.
I think he’s got the goods with the bat, he just lost his confidence playing in college (he was following the career of one of the best C in NCAA history in Jeff Clement, and I think that played some role in his struggles. Well, that and being 17 in your first year of college….) and Tom House moved him to the bullpen because he could throw 95 mph.
In terms of upside, I think only Miller has more. This guy could be a left-handed hitting Carlton Fisk (he won’t hit for average like Mauer does) if he puts it all together.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on Nov 2, 2009 2:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Just a weeeee bit much on Fisk
Carlton Fisk’s MLB OPS in the 70s and 80s was higher than Stock’s NCAA OPS.
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Nov 2, 2009 3:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm pretty high on Stock as a hitter
Fisk (career): .269/.341/.457
Stock (NCAA): .263/.361/.414
I believe that he has more pop in his bat than he showed at Southern Cal. He walked more than he struck out in three seasons there, and he’s got very good plate discipline. I don’t think that my comparison to Fisk, based on Stock’s skill set, is all that far off.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on Nov 2, 2009 3:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ummm
Exactly? .263/.361/.414 in college is terrible for a real prospect. We’re not talking about a little improvement, we’re talking massive, not-even-the-same-guy improvement. Comparing even the ceiling of a bad college hitter to a top 10 at least catcher of all time is—-no offense—-completely ridiculous.
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Nov 2, 2009 3:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
are you saying that
even though Brett Wallace had a .410/.526/.753 line his senior year at ASU, he might not do that well in the majors? He might not be Ted Williams and Babe Ruth rolled into one?
Free Milton
by all4tookie on Nov 2, 2009 4:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ummmmm
We can do this all day, but you’re not going to change my mind.
Not even the same guy improvement? Hardly.
- He started college at the age of 16. SIXTEEN! SIXTEEN!!!!!
- He’s currently only 19, and put up similar figures to his college stats in rookie ball this year. Generally, we associate college with A level pro ball in terms of talent level of competition, so as a catcher, he’s doing measurably well as a hitter. I think his swing may need some fine tuning, however.
- His ISO and ISOP stats are pretty impressive, as are his lack of strikeouts for a guy who has had trouble making contact consistently.
I didn’t say he’s going to BECOME Carlton Fisk, idiot. I said that he’s got similar skills and would be comparable hitter at the catcher position, albeit from the left side, IF he hits his potential which I grade as reasonably high. I certainly DID NOT state that he would become a 24 year veteran who played for the Red Sox and White Sox and would be a Hall of Fame catcher.
I guess I could have related him to Rick Wilkins as a hitter, but then you’d be bitching about not knowing who Rick Wilkins is OR that I picked a poor comparison to his ceiling.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on Nov 2, 2009 4:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
why do you always have to be so offensive to people when you're arguing?
you need to take a few breaths sometimes, dude.
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Nov 3, 2009 1:46 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
.263/.361/.414 in college is terrible for a real prospect.
I would gather that him hitting .500/.650/1.100 in his junior and senior years of high school would have been much better right?
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on Nov 2, 2009 4:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
FWIW, using
this MLE calculator (with Sean Smith data), Stock’s 2009 USC season translates into a whopping .151/.217/.271 MLB line (equating NCAA with A ball as you suggested).
Granted, anything could happen, but I wouldn’t go around calling people idiots when you are the one claiming Robert Fucking Stock has the potential to be Carlton Fisk. What are the chances of him being that good? 1 in 100? 1 in 1,000? Why not cut the hyperbole and just say he has the potential to be an MLB regular?
Free Milton
by all4tookie on Nov 2, 2009 4:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Also, you could have just stopped your post
at
We can do this all day, but you’re not going to change my mind.
because after that, what is the point, really?
Free Milton
by all4tookie on Nov 2, 2009 4:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You could just butt out of the whole conversation
because you’ve added nothing to this at all.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on Nov 2, 2009 4:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Why not cut the hyperbole and just say he has the potential to be an MLB regular?
Well, that’s exciting. I guess from now on I’ll just say that every player in our minor league system has the potential to be Rick Wilkins or Mike Gallego. That should be fun to talk about….
I called him an idiot because I’m not saying, AND HAVE NEVER FUCKING SAID IN ANY POST IN THIS THREAD OR EVER, that Stock will “become” Fisk. I’ve simply said he has similar tools: He has a great eye, he has power already that could develop into better power as he gets older, and he probably will not hit for high average. You could use that same language to describe Fisk as a hitter.
The HYPERBOLE started with Joker, not me, because he took what I said completely out of context.
this MLE calculator (with Sean Smith data), Stock’s 2009 USC season translates into a whopping .151/.217/.271 MLB line (equating NCAA with A ball as you suggested).
FWIW, jerkoff, what is the probability that an MLE calculator with A ball data from a kid age 16-18 is going to be even close to correct? 1 in 100, 1 in 1000? See how easy it is to call someone else’s argument stupid?
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on Nov 2, 2009 4:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Easy, girls.
BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
by vexedtechie on Nov 2, 2009 4:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Why so fussed?
You made a hyperbolic claim when you said he could be a left-handed Fisk if he put it all together (and admit as much yourself when you say that just claiming he could be regular major leaguer isn’t exciting enough). I told you to get real (using a reasonably objective measure – MLEs).
For your reference, here is a link to MLE background and methodology. MLEs are based on thousands and thousands of player-seasons and have proven to be quite predictive.
Now, if looking at objective facts instead of taking your word for it makes me a jerkoff, sign me up.
Free Milton
by all4tookie on Nov 2, 2009 4:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Awesome
I love it when an argument devolves to this point, where I have to argue my view of a player against your “math”.
Just forget I ever said anything. I will now refer to all comparisons as “hyperbolic” and put asterisks around them in bold print so as not to confuse the stat nazis, who insist that all players can be projected in a linear manner.
Unbelievable.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on Nov 2, 2009 6:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hahaha "a linear matter"
Because calling a bad college hitter’s ceiling to be less than that of a top 5-10 catcher of all time is oh so outrageous.
Just wondering, since we can’t use stats to prove that Stock’s ceiling does not project in any way to be that of a top 5 catcher in history, have you seen Stock play? Or are we going by the “feel” of a player who was considered good 4 years ago by other people.
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Nov 2, 2009 6:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm going by what
Jeff Clement told me about him since I’m friends with his older brother Mike. I’m also going by what I’ve seen of him on film and from watching college baseball when he played it. I think he’s pretty good, and THAT’S MY OPINION.
Yes, you are predicting him a linear manner when you’re predicting him using MLE’s, which, I must say, are pretty goddamn awful when predicting kids under the age of 20 and who haven’t taken a AA AB yet.
I’m saying he has POTENTIAL, I’m not predicting he’s the next HOF catcher.
But I can see that it’s more fun to act like assholes and put down someone’s personal opinion while spewing out nearly baseless statistical facts than it is to just accept it as an opinion and move on.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on Nov 2, 2009 6:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yikes
If I said if Shelby Miller puts it together he’s a Roger Clemens with Greg Maddux command and have a right handed Randy Johnson slider, you wouldn’t say that’s ridiculous?
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Nov 2, 2009 6:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
actually
I think he would be a nolan ryan with carlos silva command(only 2005 though) and with joel zumaya velocity and cal ripken endurance
And now a scene from seinfeld
ELAINE: [mind] Who does this guy think he is?
KEITH: [mind] I'm Keith Hernandez.
by CodyG on Nov 2, 2009 6:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So me comparing to one player
equals you comparing the combined traits of three different players? Get over yourself.
If you said that Shelby Miller had the upside of Roger Clemens I don’t think that’s ridiculous at all. He may not win 354 games or strike out 4000 hitters, but that doesn’t mean that he can’t be a similar type pitcher at the MLB level for a number of years.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on Nov 2, 2009 6:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
In a similar vein
me saying that Stock could be a C that puts up numbers near Fisk’s career averages as his upside is really not that ridiculous a statement, considering how talented many scouts consider him to be.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on Nov 2, 2009 6:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes it is
From BA:
He showed raw power and catch-and-throw tools in his first two seasons, particularly arm strength. However, his draft stock suffered; after ranking No. 5 in our Cape Cod League Top 30 following his freshman season, he didn’t even make the top 30 last summer, and scouts were stunned by his poor performance on scout day in fall 2008, when his bat looked slow and his pop times sluggish.
Scouts don’t really like him anymore as a hitter.
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Nov 2, 2009 7:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
They were "stunned"
couts were stunned by his poor performance on scout day in fall 2008, when his bat looked slow and his pop times sluggish.
I wonder if that has something to do with them thinking he was a pretty good f***ing hitter before that. Why would they be “stunned” at this performance if they didn’t think he was pretty good at one time?
Now, I’ve said that I think his swing needs retooling (it’s too long and slow) but that it’s something that he can work on in the minors with proper instruction. Would you agree that his isolated power, isolated patience, and BB/K metrics are good indicators of future success at the plate?
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on Nov 3, 2009 9:25 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i think everybody sees both your points.
Let’s let this one sit, and enough with the personal insults.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Nov 2, 2009 5:25 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
probably about 50/50
Or rather, a weighted 50/50 (IE 5 guys off by 10 points low and one guy off by 50 points high balance out).
FWIW, Mark Prior had a college OPS of .846 at USC and Vanderbilt, which translates to a .172/.229/.300 MLB line. He had a real world career MLB line of .201/.231/.265.
it's Clydesdales vs Goats. Actually sums up Cards vs. Cubs quite nicely. -all4tookie
by SleepyCA on Nov 2, 2009 5:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Mark Prior was a pitcher
Now, what if Mark Prior goes to the minors and develops as a 3B for 3 years after pitching his whole college career? Does he have a better chance at outperforming his MLE’s? I’d say he pretty damn well does, which is why MLE’s are a really imperfect science, to the point where they really aren’t science at all, just a method.
You’re also predicting using numbers from a kid who was age 16,17,18, and 19, while playing against kids who were 19,20,21, and 22. It’s clear he hadn’t fully developed yet, and would have been a top 10 pick coming out of high school at age 18, I’m pretty sure of that.
I think he’s an interesting talent and I think his bat has a lot of upside if he can develop a little more power, because his peripherals look very good.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on Nov 2, 2009 6:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
well, to be honest
1. I’ve only read very little on him, and each piece seems to contradict the previous one I read (re: position, ability, his bat, etc.) and 2. i think there are two huge differences between pitcher and catcher and the value attributed to both.
Stupid Sexy Flanders!!!
by timmycardinals on Nov 2, 2009 11:36 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The P-D Community Top 10 makes no sense to me.
I enjoyed Goold’s discussion on when a prospect reaches his shelf life and is no longer a “prospect.” It’s an interesting question for lists such as these.
Mine:
1) Shelby
2) Jamie
3) DJ Tools
4) Sanchez
5) Descalso
6) Lynn
7) Samuel
8) Stock
9) Allen Craig
10) Freese
I don’t really view Hawksworth as a “prospect” heading into 2010 what with his extensive 2009 big-league bullpen stint. I don’t really have any set formula for this, either, but I can’t bring myself to put Freese or Craig at the top of a Cardinals’ “prosepct” list. Craig because the organization clearly has a negative view of him and Freese because of his age. I’m probably too much of a believer in DJ Tools moving forward, but I’m very interested to see him at full health in 2010. Furthermore, I’m really, really hoping that we get to see the combo of Duncan’s coaching and Lynn’s pitching.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Nov 2, 2009 11:26 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow.
*Jaime, not “J-a-m-i-e.”
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Nov 2, 2009 11:28 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
may I?
JAIME GARCIA
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 2, 2009 11:47 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My list is pretty similar to yours...
I would move Samuel down since he seems to have a lot of trouble throwing strikes and hasn’t improved that over the last two seasons.
- Garcia
- Miller
- Jones
- Sanchez
- Descalso
- Freese
- Stock
- Lynn
- Craig
- Jay
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on Nov 2, 2009 11:32 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I understand what you are saying.
If he can strike out a lot of people, and continue to give up fewer hits while dropping his walks, he’ll be pretty good, I think. He reminds me of Chris Perez, but with more walks. I guess I have more faith in Samuel improving his control than, say, Jay developing more power. Next year may cause me to change my view on Samuel.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Nov 2, 2009 11:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hawksworth
I agree with your point on Stab as a reliever, and would have kept him off the list, but I actually put him there as a starter, b/c for some reason I still want to see what he can do taking the ball at the beginning of games.
Stupid Sexy Flanders!!!
by timmycardinals on Nov 2, 2009 11:40 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I was interested in seeing Hawksworth start,
but he doesn’t strike batters out in the big leagues. And that is worrisome. Even if he did, like Adam Wainwright between ‘06 and ’07 and K-Mac between ’08 and ’09, I wouldn’t include him on a list of “prospects.” That’s just my opinion, though.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Nov 2, 2009 11:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
How the prospects are doing so far
Mike Parisi seems like someone to keep an eye on
by FlimtotheFlam on Nov 2, 2009 12:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
AFL
I struggle with how much stock to put in AFL numbers. Or, any winter league numbers, for that matter. The sample size seems a bit small and there also seems to be quite a mix of talent. How much stock should we put in, say, the AFL numbers of our Memphis (Future) Redbirds?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Nov 2, 2009 12:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
do they stay injury-free
seems to be a nice stat
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 2, 2009 12:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
How much stock should we put in, say, the AFL numbers of our Memphis (Future) Redbirds?
Very little.
Future Redbirds - tracking Cardinal prospects for Cardinal Nation
by azruavatar on Nov 2, 2009 1:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You don't think AFL numbers are worth anything?
I disagree with that. AFL has a generally the best prospects of any winter league. Now I could see currently they are small sample but I think they are good to look at.
by FlimtotheFlam on Nov 2, 2009 1:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree with that. AFL has a generally the best prospects of any winter league.
This is true but it’s also a misleading endorsement. The hitting environment at the AFL is very high for two main reasons 1) climate and 2) lesser pitching prospects. Most of the truly elite pitching prospects are kept home b/c of workload concerns. You get some very good hitters feasting on some ok pitchers or guys who are jumped up a few levels (see Reifer, Adam).
There’s just not a lot of information that you can draw from the AFL stats. It’s a hugely beneficial thing for scouts and teams who can watch the players but a purely statistical analysis should be for entertainment rather than hard and fast conclusions.
Future Redbirds - tracking Cardinal prospects for Cardinal Nation
by azruavatar on Nov 2, 2009 2:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah but none of them are hitting
shouldn’t that worry us a little bit?
pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels
by gdm426 on Nov 2, 2009 5:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
can we just point to what ankiel did in spring training and conclude that small sample sizes suck
I credit it all to my AP stats class in High school at least i learned something.
And now a scene from seinfeld
ELAINE: [mind] Who does this guy think he is?
KEITH: [mind] I'm Keith Hernandez.
by CodyG on Nov 2, 2009 5:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Or K-Greene.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Nov 2, 2009 5:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
all true, but the AFL is supposed to be for guys who are
almost ready for the bigs aren’t they? at least i thought they were.
pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels
by gdm426 on Nov 2, 2009 5:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
so it's triple A ball
oh wait…
And now a scene from seinfeld
ELAINE: [mind] Who does this guy think he is?
KEITH: [mind] I'm Keith Hernandez.
by CodyG on Nov 2, 2009 5:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If I had to choose between hitting and not hitting
I’d choose hitting. Still shouldn’t worry you though. Be worried about Daryl’s down YEAR rather than a handful of AFL at bats.
Future Redbirds - tracking Cardinal prospects for Cardinal Nation
by azruavatar on Nov 2, 2009 6:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think most of us are worried about DJ's 2009.
And I also think that most of us were hoping that we’d see signs of a fully health DJ in the AFL. There’s a reason hardly anyone has advocated letting Jones take over in LF and spending $18MM on players other than Holliday.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Nov 2, 2009 6:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
wasn't his down year because of injury though?
and isn’t his knee still bothering him?
i just always thought that teams sent the players to the AFL to get them ready for the bigs. or showed them off so they could be traded at the winter meetings.
pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels
by gdm426 on Nov 2, 2009 6:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the most interesting fact is that they are there.
It gives you some insight into the club’s thinking when jay and hamilton are in the dominican republic and craig and henley are in arizona.
Stats are hard to interpret. The AFL is generally very hitter-friendly.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Nov 2, 2009 2:01 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Why?
Do you think Evan MacLane is also a guy to keep an eye on? He’s been even better than Parisi, but wouldn’t crack the top 20 in the ranks of Cardinal prospects, imo.
Parisi seems like a AAAA pitcher to me. He’s 26 (MacLane is 27), so he should be dominating the 22 and 23 year old kids that are in the AFL.
I find it hard to put any stock in AFL numbers — they generally don’t have much correlation to improvement or success the following spring.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on Nov 2, 2009 3:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's also over 14 IP.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Nov 2, 2009 3:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yes fourstick just as 44 year olds are better than 22 year olds because they should be
If that’s what your logic is saying.
And now a scene from seinfeld
ELAINE: [mind] Who does this guy think he is?
KEITH: [mind] I'm Keith Hernandez.
by CodyG on Nov 2, 2009 5:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually players in general have a pretty marked peak around age 26
Followed by decline. So a 26 year old is about as good as he is going to get (generically), but a 22-year old has a few years in which he should improve
Free Milton
by all4tookie on Nov 2, 2009 5:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, forgot source..
One I picked was here, plenty others though
Free Milton
by all4tookie on Nov 2, 2009 5:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Except for Barry Bonds.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Nov 2, 2009 5:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
?what
And now a scene from seinfeld
ELAINE: [mind] Who does this guy think he is?
KEITH: [mind] I'm Keith Hernandez.
by CodyG on Nov 2, 2009 5:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I know
Hard to believe, isn’t it
Free Milton
by all4tookie on Nov 2, 2009 5:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, my logic isn't saying that at all...
Just that a mature 26 year old pitcher with lots of minor league experience should be dominating 21 and 22 year old hitters who haven’t seen a pitcher above A or AA yet.
Also, players tend to peak at around age 26, so, yes, as a general rule 26 year olds should be better than 21 and 22 year olds.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on Nov 2, 2009 6:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Um. Please keep open flames at least 50 ft away from this straw man.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
by hazel on Nov 2, 2009 9:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
For a public voted list
that actually doesn’t look too bad. I’d probably have them in a different order, and I’m not sure I’d have Greene in the top 10 (Hawksworth is also a questionable one, especially so high) but I think the names are more or less right. I’d probably throw in Henley and Stock for Hawk and Greene, and shuffle them about a bit.
Freese is kinda high, too.
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Nov 3, 2009 1:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ultraman! Ultraman! Hard Gay Man!
I really love that show. Got a bunch of bootlegged, poorly subbed DVDs I bought from a dude in San Fran last year. Pretty awesome, tell the truth.
Here comes the funcooker!
by the red baron on Nov 2, 2009 1:55 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I am telling you
You need to check out Hajime no Ippo
by FlimtotheFlam on Nov 2, 2009 2:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Utley's awesom...
what the hell does he put in his hair??
MB for LF in 2010!
by guayzimi on Nov 2, 2009 2:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
see above
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 2, 2009 2:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He doesn't want helmet head...
so he goes with greaseball head…
MB for LF in 2010!
by guayzimi on Nov 2, 2009 2:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Chase Utley doesn't want Fop, goddamnit!
He’s a Dapper Dan man!
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Nov 2, 2009 2:32 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
That's awesome.
The only thing that would make it better is if Utley were mustachioed.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Nov 2, 2009 2:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If we're doing photoshop,
then I would hope it would be him singing I Am A Man Of Constant Sorrow.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Nov 2, 2009 2:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I am a man of constant sorrow
People think Howard is better than me
I play second base in Philadelphia
I’ll never win an MVP
(He’ll never wiiiin an MVP)
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Nov 2, 2009 3:00 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Gimme a couple minutes.
BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
by vexedtechie on Nov 2, 2009 3:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Iiiiiiiiii am a maaaaaaaan....

BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
by vexedtechie on Nov 2, 2009 4:29 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
With Charlie Manuel as
Pappy O’Daniel
by brackenthebox on Nov 2, 2009 4:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You'll take what you get.
I ain’t touchin’ no old whitey. That’s just creepy.
BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
by vexedtechie on Nov 2, 2009 4:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Pass the biscuits
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Nov 2, 2009 5:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Did ya hear?
Menelaus “Buddy” O’Selig has granted Chase Utley and the Philly Bottom Boys a full pardon!
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Nov 2, 2009 4:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And he'd sure be pleased
if you ate his purina and voted him a second term.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Nov 2, 2009 4:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
he'll go mustache once we pick him up
in the van
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 2, 2009 2:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the mythology is coming from everywhere
Pujols is now Athena and Achilles (and Ridiculous)
ARod is a centaur (and various other chimerae)
Utley is Odysseus
more to come
by brackenthebox on Nov 2, 2009 2:42 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Let's add
Gil(ga)Meche
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Nov 2, 2009 2:53 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
how about Greinke
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 2, 2009 3:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And a rec for you too
for reminding me that I like the old Final Fantasy games.
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Nov 2, 2009 9:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
His theme is awesome.
I also actually just bought the poem Gilgamesh, having somehow never read it. Hopefully it is awesome.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Nov 2, 2009 9:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Rec'd
for excellent use of the word “chimerae”.
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Nov 2, 2009 9:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Phillies' Hitting Coach
How did I not know that Milt Thompson was the Phillies’ hitting coach? On the topic of baseball cards, I have every single one of his Cardinals’ baseball cards—from 1989 through 1992. (I hit my prime of card collecting in 1987 through 1991. 1992 was the first year of card-collecting decline.) I can’t believe he OPS’d over .800 in 1991. If only they had that stat on the backs of baseball cards back then…
That said, Thompson is a career .274/.335/.372 hitter. The Phils led the NL in runs this season. I think this shows that you don’t need to be a great BA batsman as a player to be a quality big-league hitting coach.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Nov 2, 2009 2:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Those were the days...
when 290/340/390 would bring MVP votes.
MB for LF in 2010!
by guayzimi on Nov 2, 2009 2:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Huh.
He garners MVP votes in ’87 with an OPS+ of 103 and ’89 with an OPS+ of 107, yet receives no votes in 1990 when he had an OPS+ of 127. Those silly baseball writers of America…
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Nov 2, 2009 3:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He probably stopped doing all the little things that win ball games that year.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Nov 2, 2009 3:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Fun with stats
Barry Bonds first led the NL in OPS+ back in 1990, OPSplussing 170. 2004 was the final year in which Bonds led the NL in OPS+, at .263 (!), the second-highest of his career, behind .268 in ‘02. That ’02 OPS+ is nearly 100 points higher than his 1990 OPS+. In 1990, he was 25; in 2004, 39. Unfortunately, I don’t have information on his fitted cap size in 1990 as compared to 2004.
*Stats from www.baseball-reference.com
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Nov 2, 2009 3:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
His OBP was .609 in 2004
My favorite stat of all time
Free Milton
by all4tookie on Nov 2, 2009 4:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
and misleading
If you take out his 120 intentional walks, you get a .496 OBP, which is great, but not otherworldly.
Bonds shouldn’t get full credit for the NL’s managers having a collective season-long brain fart.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Nov 2, 2009 5:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thats still pretty otherworldly.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Nov 2, 2009 5:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes he should
And what isn’t insane about a .496 OBP?
Free Milton
by all4tookie on Nov 2, 2009 5:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I guess it depends on your definition of insane. . .
or otherworldly. . .
but FWIW, .496 would be the 24th or 25th best all time, rather than 1st all time by a wide margin.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Nov 2, 2009 5:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes.
He would only join the likes Of Hornsby, Williams, and Ruth with that pedestrian .496 OBP.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Nov 2, 2009 6:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
and why should he get credit for NL managers being eediots?
it’s been pretty well-documented that you’re better taking your chances pitching to a guy in almost every situation. . .
by SouthsideCardsFan on Nov 2, 2009 6:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Could you subtract IBB from each of the top 25 OBP all-time?
Before saying that Bonds shouldn’t get credit for managers being stupid and that his IBB-less OBP would only be the top 24 or 25 all-time, please let us know what the 24 or 23 who would beat him would have had as their OBP without IBB. That will give us all some context.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Nov 2, 2009 6:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I can't believe
We are even discussing the fact that .496 OBP is ho-hum according to SouthsideCardsFan……….
Albert’s highest OBP ever was .462.
.496 is still insane, you act like anyone can put up a .496 OBP
by ICbirdfan on Nov 2, 2009 6:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I love Olerud's .473 in '93 randomly among the leaders
that dude was/is severely underrated.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Nov 2, 2009 6:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The helmet at first weirded people out.
by spants on Nov 2, 2009 11:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
especially Ricky
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by gdm426 on Nov 2, 2009 11:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm completely on board with this statement.
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Nov 2, 2009 11:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dude. . .
I said “great” not “ho-hum”.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Nov 3, 2009 9:38 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Really?
He slugged .812 that season! Eight twelve!!!!!!
Why would you pitch to him at all? If anything, he’s lucky he got pitched to as much as he did.
He hit a XBH every 5 AB’s that season. If they don’t walk him, he has another 24 XBH that season and his slugging percentage actually goes UP. He might have slugged close to .880, or better, that season had they pitched to him.
He might be the one case (2001 – 2004 version) where walking him actually made more sense than pitching to him in terms of overall runs scored.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on Nov 2, 2009 6:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
that's insane....
Barry Bonds stats were unreal…
by ICbirdfan on Nov 2, 2009 6:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dammit
Did those numbers wrong. He would have slugged .805 that season had he been pitched to during all of his IBB and kept his rate of homers, doubles, and batting average constant.
He also would have hit 59 homers and 35 doubles and had nearly 200 hits.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on Nov 2, 2009 6:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Andre Dawson, dude.
Andre Dawson.
I will gladly theorize without doing any research whatsoever that the 80’s was just about the worst decade for MLB awards voting. Maybe it’s always been apalling, but it seems the annual joke we now know as the gold glove awards was the standard for all major awards back then. Grr.
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Nov 2, 2009 9:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So nexdef’d
"Everyone in here comes to the yard ready to play every day. I’ll take this group, any day until the day I die."
"This whole Cardinals thing.....I don’t know if you guys are a believer, but I’m a believer."
~ Ryan Fucking Ludwick
by RiverRat on Nov 2, 2009 4:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
it's ok, man
it happens to everyone
walk it off
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 2, 2009 5:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone know where to find good vide of Pujols' rocket off Lidge
Game 5 NLCS 2005? I can only find poor quality video.
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
by IHeartBoog on Nov 2, 2009 4:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
ugh, *video
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
by IHeartBoog on Nov 2, 2009 4:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe search MLB.com
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Nov 2, 2009 5:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I've been looking for a while
And was never successful. I think there is a .gif floating around somewhere
Free Milton
by all4tookie on Nov 2, 2009 5:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
done

And now a scene from seinfeld
ELAINE: [mind] Who does this guy think he is?
KEITH: [mind] I'm Keith Hernandez.
by CodyG on Nov 2, 2009 5:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
nice try cody
but i’m not getting into another gif war with you.
not this time
no sir, not this time
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by gdm426 on Nov 2, 2009 5:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i knew you would chicken out
And now a scene from seinfeld
ELAINE: [mind] Who does this guy think he is?
KEITH: [mind] I'm Keith Hernandez.
by CodyG on Nov 2, 2009 5:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i'm not chicken, i just like being able to post here
and i also respect the women here who could find the war offensive & don’t want to upset them
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by gdm426 on Nov 2, 2009 5:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Who are you?
you changed man, you changed.
And now a scene from seinfeld
ELAINE: [mind] Who does this guy think he is?
KEITH: [mind] I'm Keith Hernandez.
by CodyG on Nov 2, 2009 5:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
naw man, you see, if i can be 6 for a minute, VEB is different & better than that
it’s not a place where the men run wild & do whatever they want. LB made that very clear after the EA good luck pic posting game threads of aught eight. while most who were participating (yours truly included) weren’t doing it to objectify EA or any of the female posters, many women & some of the guys were greatly offended that the place they come to escape the rest of the webs seemingly never ending quest to turn women into nothing more than sex robots had gone off the rails. it was wrong then & it was wrong of me the other day. it doesn’t matter that it was all in good fun or whatever, LB said no pics of women & i broke that rule. there are literally billions of other sites we can go to see that. but VEB is not one of them.
so just remember that from now on. there are women here, watch what you say, watch what you post. and above all else, respect them. and if you don’t know how to do that, just think of them all as your mom or little sister. don’t say or do anything around them that you wouldn’t want your mom or sister to be exposed to.
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by gdm426 on Nov 2, 2009 5:55 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
That just made my sucky day a little better.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 2, 2009 5:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
really? i'm sorry to hear you're having a bad day
have some BBQ. i hope it helps you feel better

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by gdm426 on Nov 2, 2009 6:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We, ironically, had to read an article about porn in English.
I couldn’t tell if it was being sarcastic but it seemed to be supporting the porn industry in some ways. I was not happy, I almost boycotted class by not going but then I just went and didn’t say anything. Then I got a bad grade (by my standards) on a paper.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 2, 2009 6:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
will this make you feel better? it's math!!!

And now a scene from seinfeld
ELAINE: [mind] Who does this guy think he is?
KEITH: [mind] I'm Keith Hernandez.
by CodyG on Nov 2, 2009 6:34 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
that is beautiful.
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Nov 3, 2009 1:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Quite right
Objectifying women is strongly deprecated.
We prefer our porn like this: .362 /.609/.812/1.422
by alberich on Nov 2, 2009 6:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I wish I understood how that stat line would relate to porn.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 2, 2009 6:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Objectification?
Reduction to mere physicality?
Staged fantasy artificially enhanced?
by alberich on Nov 2, 2009 6:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
apparently some people don't think that's romantic.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 2, 2009 6:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So 0's on all of those aren't ideal?
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 2, 2009 6:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I mean on this site.
How about 0’s across the board because that won’t even be on here.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 2, 2009 6:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually
.000/.000/.000/.000 is what he put up this year.
by alberich on Nov 2, 2009 6:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Did you see that link?
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 2, 2009 6:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd say:
.400/.185.809/1.000
I don’t know if I did that right.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 2, 2009 6:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i was told there would be no math
And now a scene from seinfeld
ELAINE: [mind] Who does this guy think he is?
KEITH: [mind] I'm Keith Hernandez.
by CodyG on Nov 2, 2009 6:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think we've gotten beyond math
in the traditional sense
by alberich on Nov 2, 2009 6:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm lost now ...
but that’s a truly kinky slash line
by alberich on Nov 2, 2009 6:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
8 year olds, Dude.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Nov 2, 2009 9:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No one f*cks wiz de jesus.
BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
by vexedtechie on Nov 2, 2009 9:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah but those are "fake"
I prefer a natural .334 .427 .628 for my viewing pleasure.
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Nov 2, 2009 6:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Eschewing artifice
and returning to nature is the essence of Romanticism.
by alberich on Nov 2, 2009 6:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
well I understand but
when we did that gif war you turned it into something offensive, If you look we went from dancing cats to what you posted. I can only hope my name wasn’t hurt because of my role in it. But I appreciate you being a bigger man about it and apologizing. The VEB community can be much better than that.
And now a scene from seinfeld
ELAINE: [mind] Who does this guy think he is?
KEITH: [mind] I'm Keith Hernandez.
by CodyG on Nov 2, 2009 6:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
exactly
in order to win i went nuclear not thinking or caring about the ramifications. it was dumb & i know better than that. it’s also why after i didn’t link the other one. you & RR didn’t do anything wrong, i was in the wrong. i’m better than that, it was a stupid lapse in judgment to look tough & cool & popular.
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by gdm426 on Nov 2, 2009 6:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe you should make one of those letters.
I think they’re funny.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 2, 2009 6:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
an apology & a cat cooking you BBQ isn't enough?
i don’t have a link to those apology certificates. but i do have Dr Cox, and he used to say this
i am a horses ass. i’m sorry.

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by gdm426 on Nov 2, 2009 6:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No. It's more than enough.
I just think those are funny.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 2, 2009 6:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking ,
what the hell did I do now? And then I looked…oh yes, clever breasts…that was me.
"Everyone in here comes to the yard ready to play every day. I’ll take this group, any day until the day I die."
"This whole Cardinals thing.....I don’t know if you guys are a believer, but I’m a believer."
~ Ryan Fucking Ludwick
by RiverRat on Nov 2, 2009 7:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i'm not saying you aren't sincere
but man does that come right out of the “nice guy’s way to a woman’s heart”……
I say this from experience.
I'm like a polygon, I'm edgy.
"OHHHHH!!!!!!! IT TASTES. SO. GOOD!!!!!!!!!!"
-BOOOOOOOOG
by slu on Nov 2, 2009 7:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
well then you know nice guys finish last
they never get the girl, at least the way they want to. no matter what hollywood tries to tell the world, they are always friends & nothing more. there’s no nice guys way into a woman’s heart, because women don’t want nice guys in there. sure they may say they do, they may even act like they do. but when it comes right down to it, women will always go for the bad boy over the nice guy every single time.
now i fully understand SSS and all & there are exceptions to every rule. but in my 32 years experience on this rock, this is the way the cookie crumbles.
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by gdm426 on Nov 2, 2009 7:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And I quote
she’s the only college girl i’ll ever get though ;(
by gdm426 on Nov 1, 2009 12:55 AM CDT on Putting UZR to the Test
the text is in reference to Cgirly
And now a scene from seinfeld
ELAINE: [mind] Who does this guy think he is?
KEITH: [mind] I'm Keith Hernandez.
by CodyG on Nov 2, 2009 7:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I am disappointed in gdm
he spelled it “college”?
sad day, sad day
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Nov 2, 2009 7:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
dude you saw the pic right?
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by gdm426 on Nov 2, 2009 9:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I saw it!
that is why I now prefer “collage”…dude.
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Nov 2, 2009 9:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
dude, i totally read that wrong
i’m still a little sick, so i’m going to go ahead & blame that.
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by gdm426 on Nov 2, 2009 9:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the bacon lung will do that to you dude
this time remember what you did with the cash though
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Nov 2, 2009 9:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i don't think it was bacon lung this time
i haven’t lost any days, i’ve just lost my voice & felt like crap for over a week now
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by gdm426 on Nov 2, 2009 9:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No it wasn't!
It was in reference to the girl with the “I love collage” shirt. Pretty sure anyway. At least that’s what I thought.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 2, 2009 7:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I've never seen the shirt so it's my bad if that's what he was referencing
[insert apology note](maybe)
And now a scene from seinfeld
ELAINE: [mind] Who does this guy think he is?
KEITH: [mind] I'm Keith Hernandez.
by CodyG on Nov 2, 2009 7:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah i wasn't talking to or about cgirly at all
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by gdm426 on Nov 2, 2009 9:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
im already a cynical fuck at 20 y/o
can’t wait to see where i’m at 12 years from now
I'm like a polygon, I'm edgy.
"OHHHHH!!!!!!! IT TASTES. SO. GOOD!!!!!!!!!!"
-BOOOOOOOOG
by slu on Nov 2, 2009 8:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm so sad for the two of you.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 2, 2009 8:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ehh mine is more self deprecating snark
there’s something about male lovesick depression that just amuses the hell out of me (see Forgetting Sarah Marshall). I figure its not fair if I don’t laugh at myself….watch Jim Norton’s HBO stand up special if you want to see a guy light into himself really hard.
but explaining snarky layered sarcasm really makes it lose its luster. perhaps snarky layered sarcasm is best left off the internetz.
I'm like a polygon, I'm edgy.
"OHHHHH!!!!!!! IT TASTES. SO. GOOD!!!!!!!!!!"
-BOOOOOOOOG
by slu on Nov 2, 2009 8:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Norton is awesome
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by gdm426 on Nov 2, 2009 9:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
why is that?
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by gdm426 on Nov 2, 2009 10:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Because you think you can't be nice and get the girl.
I think you may be looking at the wrong kinds of girls.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 2, 2009 10:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
There's a big difference
Between being nice and being the “nice guy”. The “nice guys” are in reality just too afraid to make a move.
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Nov 2, 2009 10:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Or maybe they just have too much respect for the girl to make a move.
I don’t believe in traditional dating. Look up Boy Meets Girl or Joshua Harris and that’s close to what I think.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 2, 2009 10:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's religious though so don't if you don't want to.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 2, 2009 10:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah being afraid has never stopped me
from making moves.
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by gdm426 on Nov 2, 2009 10:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
...thus nothing ever happens and "nice guys" don't get what they want, no?
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Nov 2, 2009 10:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not what I meant.
It’s hard to explain without getting into a whole theory of dating how it should be. And that gets religious so I’d rather not here.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 2, 2009 10:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i think there's some truth to this...
in a culture rife with the objectification of women the nice guy develops a neurotic paranoia to avoid any and all objectification which can include an aversion to physical affection in fear of being accused of only being in it for her looks…..
/armchairpsychologist.
I'm like a polygon, I'm edgy.
"OHHHHH!!!!!!! IT TASTES. SO. GOOD!!!!!!!!!!"
-BOOOOOOOOG
by slu on Nov 2, 2009 10:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ah ok
you’d be surprised (well maybe you won’t if you’ve been in church all your life) at how women who have had a great home life & been taught right from wrong, just go completely off the deep end when they grow up. it just amazes me how all these smart intelligent & very attractive women say one thing, then go out & find the worst man kind has to offer & end up dating & marring them.
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by gdm426 on Nov 2, 2009 10:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wait 'till your idealism dies.
All craplife after that.
by Tom_Lawless_Bat_Flip on Nov 2, 2009 8:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
are you sure you'll even be here?
will any of us?
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by gdm426 on Nov 2, 2009 9:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
true dat...only have 2+ years left....make it a party
and john cusack is going to show us all how it will go down on November 13 in Fun with CGI…I mean 2012
I'm like a polygon, I'm edgy.
"OHHHHH!!!!!!! IT TASTES. SO. GOOD!!!!!!!!!!"
-BOOOOOOOOG
by slu on Nov 2, 2009 9:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
last week the Mayan's said the world won't end in 2012
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by gdm426 on Nov 2, 2009 10:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
well fuck
what the hell? I had plans for the end of the world and everything.
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Nov 2, 2009 10:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i was as shocked as anyone
my plans are toast as well
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by gdm426 on Nov 2, 2009 10:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I heard somewhere that really what happened
was the Mayans making the calendar just stopped at 2012. They didn’t say anything about the end of the world, they just stopped. I don’t know if that’s true.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 2, 2009 10:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That's not even true
There’s multiple sets of calendars and one of them stops in 2012. And the calender stopping is irrelevant anyway because it’s supposedly just the start of a new cycle or some planetary alignment crap, not the end. It’s a complete fabrication.
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Nov 2, 2009 10:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Then that is sort of true.
The stopping of the calendar didn’t mean the end of the world. Like I said, though, I didn’t know how true it was.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 2, 2009 10:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
they probably
got conquered and had to abandon the calendar at that point (2012)
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
by cardball on Nov 6, 2009 6:40 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
and.....BOOM
I'm like a polygon, I'm edgy.
"OHHHHH!!!!!!! IT TASTES. SO. GOOD!!!!!!!!!!"
-BOOOOOOOOG
by slu on Nov 2, 2009 8:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
huh, that would explain why i remember almost everything
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by gdm426 on Nov 2, 2009 9:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks gdm.
Very thoughtful.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 2, 2009 5:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i hope you all weren't too offended the other day
i really didn’t mean to & if you were please accept my apology
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by gdm426 on Nov 2, 2009 5:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Accepted.
I knew you weren’t meaning to be rude or anything.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 2, 2009 5:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Do ya'll
It’s under top plays.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Nov 2, 2009 5:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The crowd noise is the best.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 2, 2009 5:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I found that.
The quality just isn’t great. Plus, I was hoping to see the whole at bat, and the part where Andy Petitte says “oh my God.”
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
by IHeartBoog on Nov 2, 2009 5:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
here's the whole at bat
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2ZRIpxdUCg
And now a scene from seinfeld
ELAINE: [mind] Who does this guy think he is?
KEITH: [mind] I'm Keith Hernandez.
by CodyG on Nov 2, 2009 5:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Awesome, thanks
I saw the title of this video before but I assumed it was someone’s home video of the game. This is much better than what’s on mlb.com.
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
by IHeartBoog on Nov 2, 2009 5:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Albert Pujols
needs to appear at C, CF, & P to have played at every (real) position in his career. Lets make this happen.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Nov 2, 2009 6:54 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
well pitching won't happen and either will C but CF
hmm…
And now a scene from seinfeld
ELAINE: [mind] Who does this guy think he is?
KEITH: [mind] I'm Keith Hernandez.
by CodyG on Nov 2, 2009 7:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
he first tried out for the Cards at catcher, didn't he?
that’s the first time they passed on him?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 2, 2009 7:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
is that your final answer

And now a scene from seinfeld
ELAINE: [mind] Who does this guy think he is?
KEITH: [mind] I'm Keith Hernandez.
by CodyG on Nov 2, 2009 7:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
now post your favorite meme
And now a scene from seinfeld
ELAINE: [mind] Who does this guy think he is?
KEITH: [mind] I'm Keith Hernandez.
by CodyG on Nov 2, 2009 7:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I want to burn an LOLcat..
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Nov 2, 2009 7:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Direct TV isn't working here.
Fox is broken. No baseball. I might die. I need some Cliff Lee. I called the people. I don’t know when it will be fixed.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 2, 2009 7:54 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
here feel better

And now a scene from seinfeld
ELAINE: [mind] Who does this guy think he is?
KEITH: [mind] I'm Keith Hernandez.
by CodyG on Nov 2, 2009 8:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If it helps I'll let you know what is going to happen right now
Spoiler alert:
Lee: 9 IP, 5 H, 8 K, 1 ER
Burnett: 7 IP, 7K, 3 ER
Phillies 3 Yankees 1
Back to NY!!!
(Insert Your Own Joke)
by AWolfAtTheDoor on Nov 2, 2009 8:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So...
they don’t score anymore?
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 2, 2009 8:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nope not with Howard in this terrible slump
And the umps have been calling Burnett’s curveballs strikes. If that continues he pitches well. That is the key to whether Burnett pitches well or not.
(Insert Your Own Joke)
by AWolfAtTheDoor on Nov 2, 2009 8:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Anyway tonight Lee on full rest vs. Burnett on 3 days is the lock of the century.
(Insert Your Own Joke)
by AWolfAtTheDoor on Nov 2, 2009 8:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
burnett is better on short day rest anyway
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?n1=burnea.01&year=Career&t=p#dr_extra
And now a scene from seinfeld
ELAINE: [mind] Who does this guy think he is?
KEITH: [mind] I'm Keith Hernandez.
by CodyG on Nov 2, 2009 8:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Three innings later,
his 3 days rest line is right around his career line.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
by hazel on Nov 2, 2009 9:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You can't even say 3!
He only pitched 2+
BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
by vexedtechie on Nov 2, 2009 9:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
They just called and said they're working on it.
Then the guy as if reading my mind says, “We should have it fixed before the game gets really going.”
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 2, 2009 8:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dude thought I was upset about missing handegg.
I forgot t was Monday.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 2, 2009 8:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, but females can't say "Dude"
It’s not very lady like.
by thepainguy on Nov 2, 2009 8:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I say dude all the time.
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by ClemsonGirl on Nov 2, 2009 8:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
he's right
rules are rules
And now a scene from seinfeld
ELAINE: [mind] Who does this guy think he is?
KEITH: [mind] I'm Keith Hernandez.
by CodyG on Nov 2, 2009 8:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm saying dude.
Deal with it.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 2, 2009 8:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ok dude, fine by me
And now a scene from seinfeld
ELAINE: [mind] Who does this guy think he is?
KEITH: [mind] I'm Keith Hernandez.
by CodyG on Nov 2, 2009 8:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
"Why do you people keep calling me?!"

BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
by vexedtechie on Nov 2, 2009 9:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
since when?
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by gdm426 on Nov 2, 2009 9:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Since tonight
Somebody’s got to draw the line.
I’ll give them fabulous and gorgeous and a whole bunch others as long as they give us dude.
by thepainguy on Nov 2, 2009 10:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
don't you have that backwards?
haven’t women give guys dude?
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by gdm426 on Nov 2, 2009 10:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i thought clemson had Dish Network?
if you called DTV, you might be waiting a while for it to be fixed
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by gdm426 on Nov 2, 2009 9:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No we have Direct TV.
Besides I called the support line that someone gave me so I didn’t know what company I was calling.
They fixed it btw.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 2, 2009 9:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ah, coolio
i’m glad you are enjoying the game then
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by gdm426 on Nov 2, 2009 9:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
haha, it's too bad Boog didn't make this throw on time
“I thought he was going to try to go to second or third,” said Fielder, who admitted watching the play the entire way down the line before panic set in. “I didn’t know he was going to get there that quick. I didn’t even think he was going to be able to throw to first, but he made a great play and I was able to leg it out.”
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 2, 2009 7:55 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
the room has ears
watch what you say, you don’t want to know what happened to the last guy.
And now a scene from seinfeld
ELAINE: [mind] Who does this guy think he is?
KEITH: [mind] I'm Keith Hernandez.
by CodyG on Nov 2, 2009 8:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think it's time to wonder if Chase Utley is actually "ridiculous"?
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Nov 2, 2009 8:19 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
FOPtastic is what he is
I'm like a polygon, I'm edgy.
"OHHHHH!!!!!!! IT TASTES. SO. GOOD!!!!!!!!!!"
-BOOOOOOOOG
by slu on Nov 2, 2009 8:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking the same thing.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
by hazel on Nov 2, 2009 9:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, Tim
Burnett uses a spike curve grip whereas Lee uses more of a knuckle curve grip. And yes, Tim, they are two different grips.
BTW, I was friggin’ DYING last night when they kept calling Madsen’s splitter a change-up. I gather they weren’t actually LOOKING AT THEIR OWN VIDEO which showed the splitter grip at the release point. The velocity was also a tip-off (it was too low given that his FB was mid-90s) but I assume that was WAY over their heads.
by thepainguy on Nov 2, 2009 8:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
It's like Tim doesn't even watch baseball
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Nov 2, 2009 9:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That's the problem with all this technology
it’s just making everyone’s incompetence crystal clear.
How many more years do we have to put up with this? A whole generation? Maybe just 10 years?
by thepainguy on Nov 2, 2009 9:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think the future ex-players are going to be familiar with the new age stuff
And will be less clueless than the current crop. At least I hope there’s plenty more Brian Bannister types out there who pay attention to anything but what they saw live.
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Nov 2, 2009 9:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
PHILLLLLLLLIEEEEEEEEEEEEZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Nov 2, 2009 9:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Bye-Bye Burnett!
BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
by vexedtechie on Nov 2, 2009 9:10 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Can we send the Phillies bullpen some Kenny Powers tapes so they won't blow this?
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Nov 2, 2009 9:13 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
You're Fuckin' OUT!
BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
by vexedtechie on Nov 2, 2009 9:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Kenny Powers Training Video!
BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
by vexedtechie on Nov 2, 2009 9:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Was he out at second?
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
by The Continental on Nov 2, 2009 9:17 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Screw you, DH!
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
by The Continental on Nov 2, 2009 9:18 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
why in the world did AJ start today?
WTF was girardi thinking?
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by gdm426 on Nov 2, 2009 9:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Fundamentals are the crutch for the talentless.
BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
by vexedtechie on Nov 2, 2009 9:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Joe
Interview.
Did you have to check yourself before you would say wreck yourself?
Manuel- Um…no
by Harknights on Nov 2, 2009 9:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
there's no way AJ should have started tonight
you knew Lee was going to shut them down again, i can’t believe he pushed him out there on short rest. not a smart move at all joe.
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by gdm426 on Nov 2, 2009 9:30 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure Gaudin would have been a better option anyway
Is Pettitte on short or normal rest in Game 6?
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Nov 2, 2009 9:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
he couldn't have been worse
CC is the only one i would trust on short rest. hell i would have thrown Joba out there before i had AJ pitch. the same thing will happen with Pettitte, he’s going to get destroyed
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by gdm426 on Nov 2, 2009 9:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
OT: In case you want to know the time in Great Britain...
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by vexedtechie on Nov 2, 2009 9:47 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think that's just an excuse for someone to say bong over and over.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 2, 2009 9:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i think twitter has

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by gdm426 on Nov 2, 2009 10:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ironically
I just tweeted “No matter the extent to which Twitter becomes a festering mass of trendy filth, @KenTremendous will always justify its existence.” And I’m a man who stands by my tweets.
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Nov 2, 2009 10:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i read what he said today about rivera, posted above
and that was just awesome
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by gdm426 on Nov 2, 2009 10:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Robot Joe has become such a terrible announcer
Did his voice change in the slightest at a slam-into-the-wall catch?
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Nov 2, 2009 9:54 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
i screamed louder than he did
and i only have half my voice back
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by gdm426 on Nov 2, 2009 10:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
oh Jorge
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by gdm426 on Nov 2, 2009 10:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
hip hip...
god i hate that commercial…
BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
by vexedtechie on Nov 2, 2009 10:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
just walk him already
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by gdm426 on Nov 2, 2009 10:33 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The hair is just legendary
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Nov 2, 2009 10:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
come on, they're not that bad
And now a scene from seinfeld
ELAINE: [mind] Who does this guy think he is?
KEITH: [mind] I'm Keith Hernandez.
by CodyG on Nov 2, 2009 10:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
For all others than the two persons involved
yes, they are.
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Nov 2, 2009 10:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
just for that

And now a scene from seinfeld
ELAINE: [mind] Who does this guy think he is?
KEITH: [mind] I'm Keith Hernandez.
by CodyG on Nov 2, 2009 10:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I find that gif extremely disturbing.
Not sure why.
by peach concrete on Nov 2, 2009 10:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
it's like they're looking right through me
by thepainguy on Nov 2, 2009 11:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
they want your soul
it’s very creepy now that I think about it
And now a scene from seinfeld
ELAINE: [mind] Who does this guy think he is?
KEITH: [mind] I'm Keith Hernandez.
by CodyG on Nov 2, 2009 11:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
because cats are evil devil creatures who want to eat our souls
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by gdm426 on Nov 2, 2009 11:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Eyes shouldn't move that way.

"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Nov 2, 2009 11:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh dear.
Nightmares now.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 2, 2009 11:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
at least there's a subject line
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by gdm426 on Nov 2, 2009 11:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I can't wait to get old

And now a scene from seinfeld
ELAINE: [mind] Who does this guy think he is?
KEITH: [mind] I'm Keith Hernandez.
by CodyG on Nov 2, 2009 11:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I want Cardinals baseball to come back.
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Nov 2, 2009 11:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
sorry this got out of hand
but i love my .gif wars
And now a scene from seinfeld
ELAINE: [mind] Who does this guy think he is?
KEITH: [mind] I'm Keith Hernandez.
by CodyG on Nov 2, 2009 11:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not to worry
the antics of zoomzoom have forever raised my tolerance for in-thread atrocities. Plus it’s the doldrums of the offseason. Anything goes, I reckon.
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Nov 2, 2009 11:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
oh another one, being old rocks!!!

And now a scene from seinfeld
ELAINE: [mind] Who does this guy think he is?
KEITH: [mind] I'm Keith Hernandez.
by CodyG on Nov 2, 2009 11:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What's with the one cat with it's eyes closed?
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 2, 2009 11:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No apostrophe.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 2, 2009 11:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm more creeped out about the one under the black cat
And now a scene from seinfeld
ELAINE: [mind] Who does this guy think he is?
KEITH: [mind] I'm Keith Hernandez.
by CodyG on Nov 2, 2009 11:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
holy crap
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by gdm426 on Nov 2, 2009 10:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Let's see how they hit against a really good team
by thepainguy on Nov 2, 2009 10:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
um, isn't that what they are doing?
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by gdm426 on Nov 2, 2009 10:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
isn't it true we get exclusive negotiation rights for 15 days after the W.S. ?
well another day or two and maybe we can maybe lower holliday’s price.
And now a scene from seinfeld
ELAINE: [mind] Who does this guy think he is?
KEITH: [mind] I'm Keith Hernandez.
by CodyG on Nov 2, 2009 10:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
wheeeeeeeeeeeeee
where’s the ibanz gif?
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by gdm426 on Nov 2, 2009 10:51 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Spinoff idea
“Dear VEB” – the dating advice blog for the stat-oriented.
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Nov 2, 2009 10:51 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
how was that a strike?
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by gdm426 on Nov 2, 2009 10:55 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
LOL: Nobody tell Rich Dubee...
…but Ryan Madson’s change-up is actually a split-fingered fastball.
That may be why Timmy didn’t understand what the video was showing him last nice.
Very interesting.
I wonder if it was gamesmanship by Dubee or Madson being sneaky.
Or Tim being Tim.
by thepainguy on Nov 2, 2009 10:59 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
So does anyone have any thoughts about personal elevator pitches...
…and/or know someone who works in HR?
Personal elevator pitches being tools used by job seekers.
I was just interviewed by someone from Money magazine about the topic (I wrote a book about elevator pitches for entrepreneurs and salespeople) and am working my tail off to become an expert on personal elevator pitches.
by thepainguy on Nov 2, 2009 11:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
your job sounds pretty cool
but no I don’nt know anyone in HR. but if HR means human resources, still no.
And now a scene from seinfeld
ELAINE: [mind] Who does this guy think he is?
KEITH: [mind] I'm Keith Hernandez.
by CodyG on Nov 2, 2009 11:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i thought he was talking about home runs
but then i remembered we call them dingers, so then i didn’t know what he was talking about again
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by gdm426 on Nov 2, 2009 11:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
where's Lidge?
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by gdm426 on Nov 2, 2009 11:13 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Crying in a corner.
BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
by vexedtechie on Nov 2, 2009 11:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
giving albert a foot massage
And now a scene from seinfeld
ELAINE: [mind] Who does this guy think he is?
KEITH: [mind] I'm Keith Hernandez.
by CodyG on Nov 2, 2009 11:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
he's not even warming up, Myers is in the pen
wow
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by gdm426 on Nov 2, 2009 11:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
and after myers comes moyer than maybe lidge
And now a scene from seinfeld
ELAINE: [mind] Who does this guy think he is?
KEITH: [mind] I'm Keith Hernandez.
by CodyG on Nov 2, 2009 11:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
At the Khalil Greene Center for...
…oh wait. Can we vote on how soon is “too soon”? I got some pent up tastelessness to unleash.
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Nov 2, 2009 11:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That woulda been a homer for Lidge.
Small victories.
BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
by vexedtechie on Nov 2, 2009 11:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Just like in life, all of my successes depend on me. I’m the man who has the ball, I’m the man who can throw it faster…

Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Nov 2, 2009 11:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
what's the reference?
And now a scene from seinfeld
ELAINE: [mind] Who does this guy think he is?
KEITH: [mind] I'm Keith Hernandez.
by CodyG on Nov 2, 2009 11:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Google the quote
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Nov 2, 2009 11:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
wait a minute
you don’t know who Kenny F’in Powers is?
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by gdm426 on Nov 2, 2009 11:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
hey give me some slack, I'm not watching the W.S.
a boycott is the only way to win
And now a scene from seinfeld
ELAINE: [mind] Who does this guy think he is?
KEITH: [mind] I'm Keith Hernandez.
by CodyG on Nov 2, 2009 11:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Kenny Powers doesn't have to do with the World Series.
Kenny Powers is Kenny Powers.
Learn and Love everything that is KP.
There’s a link to his training video up on the page a bit.
BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
by vexedtechie on Nov 2, 2009 11:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
FINISH THE QUOTE
BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
by vexedtechie on Nov 2, 2009 11:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
With a mullet as glorious as his
I’m not going to argue.
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Nov 2, 2009 11:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Cliff Lee is a pro at watching bad bullpens ruin hi starts.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 2, 2009 11:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
+his
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 2, 2009 11:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
you make us grammar nazis proud(wipes away a tear)
And now a scene from seinfeld
ELAINE: [mind] Who does this guy think he is?
KEITH: [mind] I'm Keith Hernandez.
by CodyG on Nov 2, 2009 11:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
unfortunately
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by gdm426 on Nov 2, 2009 11:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
OT: Anyone watch V last night?
Is it worth watching?
by peach concrete on Nov 2, 2009 11:17 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
V starts tomorrow night
and all the reviews i read say it’s totally worth watching
but i’m a little ascared to because the original was the only tv show to ever give me nightmares
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by gdm426 on Nov 2, 2009 11:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh! I thought it was tonight.
Excellent. And yes, s’gonna be creepy, I think (and hope).
by peach concrete on Nov 2, 2009 11:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
6ly, those lizard people of the 80's freaked me out big time
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by gdm426 on Nov 2, 2009 11:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm skipping it
and waiting for “The Prisoner” to start on AMC. That looks like a much better show. Although missing Morena Baccarin will be difficult.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on Nov 3, 2009 9:30 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
if not for Utley, the Yankess would have won this game by now
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by gdm426 on Nov 2, 2009 11:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I can't handle a Yankee walk off home run
I don’t want to see that 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000x in my life.
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Nov 2, 2009 11:18 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
You probably won't tonight.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 2, 2009 11:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
you won't tonight
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by gdm426 on Nov 2, 2009 11:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
well it won't be a walk off tonight
they are in philly
Don't ping my cheese with your bandwidth.
by RosevilleRedbird on Nov 2, 2009 11:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The Phillies really need to win this.
I’m not ready for baseball to be over.
by peach concrete on Nov 2, 2009 11:19 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
baseball ended for me on the 10th of October
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by gdm426 on Nov 2, 2009 11:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
capital B baseball ended for me then
little b baseball ends for me after the series
by peach concrete on Nov 2, 2009 11:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm SO glad I'm just a disinterested party in this
by thepainguy on Nov 2, 2009 11:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
+ all the numbers in the world
I’d be beside myself if I were really a Phils fan.
by peach concrete on Nov 2, 2009 11:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i really want those lazer pointing battery chuckers hearts to be ripped out
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by gdm426 on Nov 2, 2009 11:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I want the Yankees, their fans and all mentions of the Yankees in human history to get swallowed by a black hole caused by the Hadron collider
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Nov 2, 2009 11:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
even the mentions of the Yankees when they lost to us?
by peach concrete on Nov 2, 2009 11:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
come on T.E.S.S. , Please, please, please
And now a scene from seinfeld
ELAINE: [mind] Who does this guy think he is?
KEITH: [mind] I'm Keith Hernandez.
by CodyG on Nov 2, 2009 11:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
quote of the week.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
by rocKStark5 on Nov 4, 2009 2:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
JETTTEER IS DA CLUTCSHDDHCHCHCHCHCH
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Nov 2, 2009 11:21 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Meanwhile Cliff lee ponders
if maybe he makes bullpens craptastic simply by being on the team.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 2, 2009 11:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
i'd love for him to ponder that while wearing the BOTB's
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by gdm426 on Nov 2, 2009 11:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
HA HA HA the Phillies Phans are bothering their own players
by thepainguy on Nov 2, 2009 11:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
City of Botherly Love?
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Nov 2, 2009 11:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
johnny should be on 1st right now
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by gdm426 on Nov 2, 2009 11:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
tex walk, arod homer
who’s with me?!?!?!
I'm like a polygon, I'm edgy.
"OHHHHH!!!!!!! IT TASTES. SO. GOOD!!!!!!!!!!"
-BOOOOOOOOG
by slu on Nov 2, 2009 11:25 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
i see your trying to jinx them again aren't you?
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by gdm426 on Nov 2, 2009 11:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
boom
I'm like a polygon, I'm edgy.
"OHHHHH!!!!!!! IT TASTES. SO. GOOD!!!!!!!!!!"
-BOOOOOOOOG
by slu on Nov 2, 2009 11:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
also, being a contrarian is hip and edgy
I'm like a polygon, I'm edgy.
"OHHHHH!!!!!!! IT TASTES. SO. GOOD!!!!!!!!!!"
-BOOOOOOOOG
by slu on Nov 2, 2009 11:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, well it's hip to be square.
…whatcha got on that?
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by vexedtechie on Nov 2, 2009 11:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
BAH! Bah! buhnanana
That’s the best I can do at work
Don't argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. - anon.
by Solanus on Nov 3, 2009 9:58 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
well we have a game 6 for the first time in years
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by gdm426 on Nov 2, 2009 11:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I will give this to the Phillies, guess what their Spring Training facility is called?
The Carpenter Complex.
by thepainguy on Nov 2, 2009 11:28 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
gracy sucks at interviewing almost as much as rosenblah does
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by gdm426 on Nov 2, 2009 11:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
"rosenblah", sounds like the you almost threw up
the very mention of his name can do that though, even the almighty GDM
And now a scene from seinfeld
ELAINE: [mind] Who does this guy think he is?
KEITH: [mind] I'm Keith Hernandez.
by CodyG on Nov 2, 2009 11:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i did a little in my mouth
but i thought it was from some bad McD’s or the two day old mexican i had earlier
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by gdm426 on Nov 2, 2009 11:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
isn't ridiculous that this is news? (martha Stewart)

And now a scene from seinfeld
ELAINE: [mind] Who does this guy think he is?
KEITH: [mind] I'm Keith Hernandez.
by CodyG on Nov 2, 2009 11:30 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I'm upset with the Yankees.
Can I be in the news?
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 2, 2009 11:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
you don't know the power she wields
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 2, 2009 11:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yes the almighty power that is Martha Stewart
she could very well ruin thanksgiving for all of us(unless you don’t watch her programs, of course)
And now a scene from seinfeld
ELAINE: [mind] Who does this guy think he is?
KEITH: [mind] I'm Keith Hernandez.
by CodyG on Nov 2, 2009 11:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
no, no
think mafia
you didn’t think she was only packing vinegar in the salad dressing things, did you?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 2, 2009 11:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
she's the walls have ears
(turns radio on to drown out talking) ok tell me everything you know.
And now a scene from seinfeld
ELAINE: [mind] Who does this guy think he is?
KEITH: [mind] I'm Keith Hernandez.
by CodyG on Nov 2, 2009 11:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
correction
shush she’s the walls have ears
(turns radio on to drown out talking) ok tell me everything you know.
And now a scene from seinfeld
ELAINE: [mind] Who does this guy think he is?
KEITH: [mind] I'm Keith Hernandez.
by CodyG on Nov 2, 2009 11:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I like cooking shows and decorating shows as much as the next girl
but she is just boring.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 2, 2009 11:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
somehow she got a show based on business with trump
and it’s ironic because of her stock fraud crimes. How do you get your good image back so quick?
And now a scene from seinfeld
ELAINE: [mind] Who does this guy think he is?
KEITH: [mind] I'm Keith Hernandez.
by CodyG on Nov 2, 2009 11:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
She lied about lying.
Her crime was lying. She didn’t actually commit fraud. She was scared she was going to get in trouble and she lied rather than telling the truth. The only reason that the gov’t came down on her so hard was because she is Martha Stewart.
by spants on Nov 2, 2009 11:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
wow, looks like we just outed spants as a martha stewart fan
isn’t the adorable, aww who’s a Martha Stewart fan, you are, yes you are.
And now a scene from seinfeld
ELAINE: [mind] Who does this guy think he is?
KEITH: [mind] I'm Keith Hernandez.
by CodyG on Nov 2, 2009 11:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I took a legal studies class that focused on celebrity cases.
by spants on Nov 2, 2009 11:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
look, it's just funnier if you are a martha stewart fan
buzz killington 
And now a scene from seinfeld
ELAINE: [mind] Who does this guy think he is?
KEITH: [mind] I'm Keith Hernandez.
by CodyG on Nov 2, 2009 11:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's cute how you post photos so you don't have to funny with words.
by spants on Nov 2, 2009 11:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
funny with words?
huh
And now a scene from seinfeld
ELAINE: [mind] Who does this guy think he is?
KEITH: [mind] I'm Keith Hernandez.
by CodyG on Nov 2, 2009 11:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Easy does it, spants
loosen up the britches a lil’ bit. They might be crampin’ your style.
BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
by vexedtechie on Nov 2, 2009 11:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Did you just tell me to unfasten my pants?
How dare you!
by spants on Nov 2, 2009 11:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
did he just call you fat?
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by gdm426 on Nov 2, 2009 11:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know, did he?
I guess I’m not allowed to talk shit on VEB anymore. Sad day, this one.
by spants on Nov 2, 2009 11:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Welp...
…bout time I hit the ol’ dusty trail… /stretch/
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by vexedtechie on Nov 2, 2009 11:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No way.
We have to settle this with a duel.
by spants on Nov 3, 2009 12:00 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
slap-fight?
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by vexedtechie on Nov 3, 2009 12:00 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
'Tarded Slap-fight

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by vexedtechie on Nov 3, 2009 12:05 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
this is going to be a draw, i can just feel it
And now a scene from seinfeld
ELAINE: [mind] Who does this guy think he is?
KEITH: [mind] I'm Keith Hernandez.
by CodyG on Nov 3, 2009 12:07 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I believe a burn is in effect, yes?
…burn.
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by vexedtechie on Nov 2, 2009 11:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Burress, Plaxico
Cops wouldn’t have ever even known about it if he wasn’t Plaxico.
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Nov 2, 2009 11:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I hate cases like that
It’s the “damn it, we’re gonna get you for something” mentality. Similar cases happen from time to time, but people seldom remember the actual charges, they just remember the original scandal from which the charges arose, like the whole Scooter Libby/Valerie Plame thing.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Nov 3, 2009 10:51 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
guys can like cooking too cgirly
i watch the food network all the time. hell i’d probably be a chef right now if it wasn’t for my bro in law
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by gdm426 on Nov 2, 2009 11:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Of course they can.
I apologize for making you feel unappreciated. I’d make one of those notes but I don’t know how and it’s bedtime.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 2, 2009 11:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think he deserves an apology note
And now a scene from seinfeld
ELAINE: [mind] Who does this guy think he is?
KEITH: [mind] I'm Keith Hernandez.
by CodyG on Nov 2, 2009 11:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i think there's been enough apologies for one day
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by gdm426 on Nov 2, 2009 11:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I can't figure out how to make one either.
I’ll work on it tomorrow when I am hopefully feeling better.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 2, 2009 11:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I can't figure it out.
Sorry.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 3, 2009 12:01 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Bureau of Communications – Apology Generator
BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
by vexedtechie on Nov 3, 2009 12:06 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I went there.
It didn’t let me do anything. I e-mailed it and it never came.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 3, 2009 12:08 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I cook more than any college male in history I'm pretty sure
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Nov 2, 2009 11:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
How dare you I'm a beast at hamburger helper
(Insert Your Own Joke)
by AWolfAtTheDoor on Nov 2, 2009 11:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not like boxed stuff or frozen food
Like cook cook.
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Nov 2, 2009 11:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i can cook frozen burritos in less than four minutes
beat that fellas
And now a scene from seinfeld
ELAINE: [mind] Who does this guy think he is?
KEITH: [mind] I'm Keith Hernandez.
by CodyG on Nov 2, 2009 11:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, like Ramen?
I’m a demi-god at that stuff.
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by vexedtechie on Nov 2, 2009 11:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i'm a wiz at instant potatoes, mac & cheese & other noodle dishes
and as you all know, nobody beats the wiz

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by gdm426 on Nov 2, 2009 11:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
it's sad he died

so i guess death always wins(sarcastically being emo)
And now a scene from seinfeld
ELAINE: [mind] Who does this guy think he is?
KEITH: [mind] I'm Keith Hernandez.
by CodyG on Nov 2, 2009 11:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
false...i completely wasted a meal plan because i preferred my own cooking
ill put my chicken parmesan against anyone here…its heavenly
I'm like a polygon, I'm edgy.
"OHHHHH!!!!!!! IT TASTES. SO. GOOD!!!!!!!!!!"
-BOOOOOOOOG
by slu on Nov 2, 2009 11:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'll be the judge!
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 3, 2009 12:00 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
a veb cook off...winner gets their item on the viva el bar menu?
I'm like a polygon, I'm edgy.
"OHHHHH!!!!!!! IT TASTES. SO. GOOD!!!!!!!!!!"
-BOOOOOOOOG
by slu on Nov 3, 2009 12:01 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
sorry, there will be no italian food on the menu
i won’t serve anything i can’t eat
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by gdm426 on Nov 3, 2009 12:03 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
what about the toasted edgaravioli?
I'm like a polygon, I'm edgy.
"OHHHHH!!!!!!! IT TASTES. SO. GOOD!!!!!!!!!!"
-BOOOOOOOOG
by slu on Nov 3, 2009 12:05 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
that does not count
i don’t know why it is, but i can eat that all day long & not have any problem. but give me some chikin parm & i’ll be out for days
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by gdm426 on Nov 3, 2009 12:09 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Chicken Parm needs to be on that menu.
delicious.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 3, 2009 12:04 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Heh
Chicken parm….amateur.
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Nov 3, 2009 12:30 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
im talking easy domestic fare....
i can go gourmet too…i make a philly cheesesteak goulash that [insert random superlative associated with eating good food]
I'm like a polygon, I'm edgy.
"OHHHHH!!!!!!! IT TASTES. SO. GOOD!!!!!!!!!!"
-BOOOOOOOOG
by slu on Nov 3, 2009 1:25 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the only cooking/decorating shows I can handle
are the ones where they make giant crazy cakes for competitions, like massive gingerbread houses…
by peach concrete on Nov 2, 2009 11:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Did you see the Simpsons cake show yesterday?
by spants on Nov 2, 2009 11:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Those are very awesome.
My favorite shows in that category are actually fashion shows like What not to wear and Say yes to the dress. Actual cooking shows I like 30 minute meals. I don;t care what the tabloids say about Rachel ray.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 2, 2009 11:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Rachel Ray
makes me want to set myself on fire.
Which is a shame, because 30-minutes meals are pretty much all I’m going to manage until I find someone to cook all my meals for me.
by peach concrete on Nov 2, 2009 11:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i make a killer soup

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by gdm426 on Nov 3, 2009 12:00 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

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