November Rain
I'm sitting in my living room staring out on a grey and very nasty November morning. Ordinarily, I welcome such inclement weather; I usually love the rain and the clouds and the cold whistling wind. However, I have an awful day ahead of me, including a trip to traffic court in Webster Groves this evening, and I just can't bring myself to work up any sort of real cheer.
This past weekend I went to see a movie at the St. Louis Film Festival with a friend of mine named Alex. (By the way, huge plug for the Festival; if you've never been, go and buy a ticket to something. Doesn't matter what. Just go and see something you wouldn't ordinarily see. I promise it will be a good experience.) Alex is a girl, and a remarkably pretty one at that. She's also most likely reading this, as she thinks the things I write are funny (even when they aren't meant to be), which makes what I'm about to dwell on potentially uncomfortable, but I don't particularly care.
It doesn't matter what the film was for the story; it was depressing and wrenching and about people thousands of miles away. It only matters the theatre was dark and warm and Alex and I were sharing a soda back and forth between us. And by sharing, I mean she was drinking what was supposed to be my soda. She had refused to pay the price for a soda of her own, claiming extortion on the part of the theatre, and refused my offer of a beverage, claiming she wouldn't allow me to try and extract the price of a medium Pepsi from her in sexual favours at a later date. It only matters she said that last to me with a wink and a smile she knows could make me do anything in the world for her, if only she would say the word.
So there I sat, trying desperately to concentrate on genocide in a far-off land instead of the taste of cherry chap stick on the straw, and I found myself thinking about the decisions we make in life, and how sometimes no matter how right you think you are, you're going to lose either way.
I suppose it's fairly obvious by now how I feel about Alex, and to what extent those feelings are returned. She lives with a man, a decent and fine man at that, who gives her anything she could ask. They're planning to get married sometime early next year, perhaps March. I'm sure it will be lovely, and I'm sure I'll be invited. I'm also sure I'm booked solid whatever day it might be.
A couple years back, I had my chance with Alex. We had been friends for quite some time, but it had never gone any farther. I had met her when dating her former roommate, and that set the tone for the relationship. We were always friendly, mildly flirty at the most, and there was always a wall between us at the end of the night. I worked up my courage finally one night in August, and told her I wanted her. She feigned surprise, but she's a lousy actress. Still, I had my answer.
As the summer ended and turned into autumn, something very gradually began to change between us. We were both single at the same time for the first time since we had met, for one thing, but it was more than that. She seemed to have reconsidered, and decided maybe that wall at the end of the night didn't need to be there after all. She kissed me one night in late September, a quick brush on the lips only, and she pulled away when I tried to kiss her back. It was electrifying all the same.
At the same time, a girl named Angie came back into my life. We had dated years before; she loved me as much as a woman can love a man, and I loved her as much as I'm capable of loving anyone, which unfortunately isn't much. She told me she needed someone who actually cared about her, and our time together was over. I moved on, she moved away. Still, we saw each other every time she came to town, and somewhere along the line I just might have fallen in love with her for real.
It was the fall of 2007, and Angie called me up one night and told me we were going to be together. She didn't ask, as she had long ago learned asking me to live simply doesn't work. She had decided we were going to make a proper go of it, and now she was telling me, and that was that.
I called Alex the next day and told her what happened, and asked her how she felt. She said the bravest thing I've ever heard anyone say, I think.
"I'll be here if you call, and we can be together. But I'm not going to wait for you and hope."
I made my choice; I didn't call Alex back for a long time. When I did, I told her I was sorry, and she laughed at me.
"I told you I wouldn't wait around, Aaron. You made your choice." And that was all.
I moved on with my life and lost it all when Angie was killed. Alex moved on and found someone dependable and solid and not at all like me who makes her happy. And so now I sit in a darkened theatre with a girl I desperately wish was not my friend and try to ignore how her fingers touch mine just ever so slightly each time she passes my soda back to me. Her fiance knows how I feel and he doesn't care. He trusts both of us, which makes me so angry I occasionally see black spots in front of my eyes.
Still, I don't regret the choice I made. I did the best I could with what I had at the time. If I had known how short my time with Angie would be, would I have chosen differently? I can't answer that, but I don't think so. It was love, and it was good, no matter how brief. What would I have had with Alex? I don't know, and sadly, I never will. She long ago forgave me for choosing someone else, but to paraphrase Jenny Lewis, she'll never let me in again.
Why am I telling you all this? To be honest, partially because it's simply what I do. I may be almost impossible to get close to in real life, but I have no problem writing painfully intimate details down and sending them out into the void for anonymous consumption. I don't know what it says about me, but I'm sure it isn't good. However, I also had a point to this story.
I had meant to relate a shorter version of this story to you and then use it to discuss the fast approaching free agency of Matt Holliday. The Cards made their choice with a player they coveted already, rather than seeing how things would work with what they had on the way, and now they have to live with that decision. They knew perfectly well there were no guarantees things would work out, but they chose to take that risk anyhow. But after telling the story, I don't want to talk about that now. It's November and it's raining and I am all alone in an empty house staring at a bad day. Writing this post has turned out to be an appallingly bad idea. So let's talk about something else, shall we?
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The Manager of the Year awards will be announced today in both the National and American Leagues; only one of them is really an interesting discussion. The National League award is pretty much a foregone conclusion by this point, I believe; Jim Tracy led his Rockies to an astounding turnaround this season after they had struggled badly under Clint Hurdle for the early portion of the season. When Tracy took over, the Rockies were 18-28. They went 74-42 the rest of the way, somehow riding a managerial change to temporary juggernaut status.
Fredi Gonzalez of the Marlins is probably the only other serious candidate for the award, as he managed the Marlins to an 87-75 record with a payroll just a hair above Alex Rodriguez' annual salary. He'll probably get a few votes based on the notion of him doing more with less, but I don't think there's any way Gonzalez beats out Tracy this year. Maybe in another year or two after the Marlins have traded Chris Coghlan and Josh Johnson and Cameron Maybin away and make a run at the wild card with the resulting pieces. Until then, Fredi will just have to bide his time.
I suppose our own Tony La Russa is a candidate, seeing as how all the national media sources are listing him as one, but I'm not really sure why. Years like 2002 I can see, when Tony had to pull a team back from the brink of disaster, or 2004, when he captained a team which just completely steamrolled everyone, but I'm not really sure about this season. The Cards were a very good, very talented team who were bolstered by a midseason acquisition and then fell apart late in the season. Nothing in there says to me, "This guy was the best manager in the NL this year." Maybe Mo could win executive of the year or something for doing so much to improve his team (though he did also potentially cripple it for the next few years, I suppose), but I don't think La Russa has any claim on the managerial award. Not saying he's a bad manager or never deserves to win MOY, but I definitely don't think he's that guy this year.
In the American League, there's a bit more in the way of interesting storylines, with Mike Scioscia seemingly the clubhouse leader. Personally, I would have to agree with that, and I'll even go so far as to postulate an axiom on the subject: When you have a player die during the season and you still make the playoffs, you win Manager of the Year. Automatically.
I don't mean to be flippant, of course; the death of Nick Adenhart early in the season was an horrific blow to the Angles, and Scioscia somehow managed to keep that team together and get them to excel. It's the sort of performance you hope never to have to see, and can only stand in awe when such a performance does, in fact, become necessary. Toss in the fact the Angels were absolutely ravaged by injuries for most of the season, and I don't really see how Scioscia doesn't win.
However, there are some other intriguing candidates, moreso than in the NL, I think. Two Rons, no waiting, for instance. Ron Gardenhire of the Twins and Ron Washington of the Rangers both did outstanding jobs getting their teams to play ball that was probably better than their talent level. Washington should get some sort of award for moving Michael Young to third base alone. Gardenhire managed to push his team into the playoffs after losing one of their two best hitters for the stretch run and having a chronically undermanned starting rotation. Very impressive on quite a few levels.
I would also throw Don Wakumatsu in Seattle into the mix. He probably didn't go as above and beyond as some of the other guys on this list, he did manage to begin the process of getting the Mariners turned around, and that's no mean feat. Give him another year or two and he should win at least one of these awards when Seattle wins the division. I think Seattle GM Jack Zduriencik should get most of the credit this year, though, if only because he realised what a boon Franklin Gutierrez would be.(Also, I should get some credit for spelling his name correctly.) The Bill Bavasi era is quickly being forgotten in Seattle, and that is a beautiful thing.
I will say this, however: if Joe Fucking Girardi wins the AL Manager of the Year award, I will personally lay waste to the offices of Major League Baseball with my telekinetic powers. I keep hearing Girardi's name brought up, and it's really, really beginning to piss me off. Oh, so he had to deal with A-Rod's steroid story early in the season? Well, Jesus ate a can of beans, boys, that's tough! He also was given the largest payroll in the sport and the best roster and a golden toilet. Seriously. I read it on the web somewhere. And as for his brilliant tactical brilliance in the playoffs, I can't imagine it's really all that tough to say, "Here you go, Mariano." It's like one of those Ron Popeil cooking devices where you set it and forget it while the Rotisablaster 9000 does all the work. Managing the Yankee bullpen in October is the definition of autopilot, so don't use that argument. Do you hear me, so-called experts?!
So anyway, it should be Jim Tracy and Mike Scioscia, and I think it probably will be.
Oh, and congratulations to Zack Greinke on his Cy Young award. It's Actually Inspring (as opposed to Lifetime Original Movie Inspiring or ESPN Saturday Morning Fluff Piece Inspiring, neither of which are nearly as good), to see someone with such serious issues able to put them behind him and accomplish something so amazing. I have to admit, I'm a little surprised the voters got this one right; I was expecting CC Sabathia to win it with the logic he was the Best Pitcher on the Best Team or some other such nonsense.
Sorry for the rather uneven tone of today's post, folks. It was not my intention when I set out. I've decided against deleting it, though, just because. It's honest, and that has to be worth something. Plus, it's not every day you get to witness someone go almost completely off the rails, right?
The Baron's Playlist for the 18th of November, 2009
"On the Bus Mall" - The Decemberists
"Dishes" - Pulp
"If Loving You is Wrong" - Luther Ingram (The pride of Alton, Illinois, bitches!)
"Chances Are" - Bob Marley and the Wailers
"Worm Mountain" - The Flaming Lips (After listening to the full Embryonic album, I've changed my opinion. It's a fucking masterpiece, plain and simple.)
Oh, and also: you could construe the title of this post as an addendum to the playlist if you were so inclined. Just saying.
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Wow
That was a very powerful post. My mouth is still hanging open. Did not expect that on a rainy Wednesday.
"Slide DiMaggio, slide!" "Hey, my name isn't DiMaggio, my name is mm..mmmm...mmm....mud."
My heart will go on - Celine Dion
Can we get the splits on this guy she’s marrying and the baron… maybe Alex needs to see the breakdown and a VEB vote before she makes this decision…
Brenden Ryan is my hero...
She wanted to leave -Ween
and yes, you have to listen to a Ween song a couple of times to appreciate it. People that don’t like Ween just don’t get it.
"If you want some get in line, but bring a lunch mutha f*cka." -Ice Cube
hmmm
sig
I cannot repeal the words of the golden eel
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 18, 2009 9:23 PM EST up reply actions
really?
seems a bit cavalier.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
if she's
swayed by a vote of people that have never met her on a baseball blog she has more problems than I can do anything with… just though it’d be funny to have a vote
yeah, i get it
and i guess rb opened himself up to almost anything and everything, but a vote seems a bit insensitive to if not downright mocking the situation. feel free to kick me off the high horse – heights make me uncomfortable anyway, though i’ve kicked my fear of widths.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
it wasn't meant to be
a situation where I was mocking anyone… but from the story it sounds like the both of them have a good sense of humour… although I don’t know either of them personally… so who knows..
Outstanding.....
….moost of us have Alexes in our lives at one point or an-udder, and they haunt us like nothing else can or ever will. It ain’t fair, but it is what it is and can’t be helped. Cowdos for writing about the expereince, and maybe moovin’ on just a bit from it.
BTW, I was expecting Sabathia to win it as well, glad he didn’t.
:=8)
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
This is great writing and all
but is this really the right forum?
Don’t get me wrong, I love rb’s posts. But the personal stuff is just a little too personal, IMO.
Self-pity is unbecoming on a site like this, methinks.
PS – please don’t think of this as any kind of negative attack on RB or the commenters who found this enjoyable. This is simply a fan of the site expressing his opinion on something he thinks shouldn’t be here.
by arch support on Nov 18, 2009 11:52 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Consider me a fan expressing his opinion that he appreciates hearing it.
For all the WAR discussions, the replacement-value arguments, and the roster moves, salary machinations, accusations of saber-bot emotional tone deafness and subsequent arguments (all the many things I love so very much), I would never, ever want to miss a piece of RB’s literary, metaphor-driven, self-hating yet narcissistic writing. So the analogy got out of hand, and turned from a balancing act into a steamrolling, pithy piece of cathartic blogging- this is a blog, and that’s allowed to happen (from time to time) in my book.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
by hazel on Nov 18, 2009 12:55 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
At least RB admits it was kind of self-indulgent and maybe not appropriate.
At least, that’s what I took his “maybe I should have deleted this but eff it” statements to be.
I do sympathize with arch support’s point of view, though. I’m not sure there’s a right answer on whether or not today’s post was “appropriate”.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
When Dan Savage’s mother died and he wrote about it in his column, I hope no one was emailing him to say, “yeah Dan, your mom died and that’s sad, but this is a sex advice column. Stuff about your mom is just inappropriate.” Writing like this doesn’t materialize outside of the body for the writer to pluck from the air and put on paper- it’s an act of creativity and psychology, things that are profoundly affected by, say, the death of a loved one.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
by hazel on Nov 18, 2009 1:07 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, I actually agree with you
By “sympathize” I didn’t mean to say I “agree” with arch support, because I had forgotten that that is pretty much a dictionary definition of “sympathize”. I should have I “understand but don’t personally agree with” arch support. I see it as a legitimate point of view to take.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
i am just against anything that will negatively
Affect the creative writing styles of our mods. Especially in the off season.
by FlimtotheFlam on Nov 18, 2009 1:14 PM EST up reply actions
Yup
The creativity of the writing here is one of its unique attributes.
Fitting baseball into life in general (even when the writer kind of gives up trying to do that per se) just illustrates that being a fan of baseball is not something you can totally isolate, for one thing.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Especially given that we do not pay for this content in any way
If you don’t like it, don’t read it.
I don't have a horse in this particular race
but I’ve always thought that was a terrible argument for just about anything. The simple act of producing something creative and putting it out into the public domain can, and very much should, leave the producer of said thing open to criticism, as long as that criticism is reasonably well-formed. It’s pretty much how culture (and society) should work, IMO.
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by Felonius_Monk on Nov 19, 2009 6:00 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
My point was not to critique RB's creativity
And I don’t think RB’s creativity would be stunted by reading my reaction to it. He’s a good and confident writer; criticism from me or any other reader isn’t going to break his heart, I hope.
But this reads more like a diary entry. And the place for a diary entry is, well, a diary. Not a baseball blog that potentially thousands of people are going to read.
“If you don’t like it, don’t read it.” might be a fair criticism of my point. But let me ask you: you came to a baseball blog to read a baseball post and you are given a personal story which we could kindly say was tangently baseball-related; isn’t unfair to expect the reader to see this coming and simply not read it?
by arch support on Nov 18, 2009 4:19 PM EST up reply actions
Not saying you're making the "if you don't like it..." argument.
just combating it for its own sake.
by arch support on Nov 18, 2009 4:20 PM EST up reply actions
it is soooo about baseball though
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
Exactly
Baseball and romance actually go hand in hand quite well
And, in a related story, this week marked the 5,000th performance of the Broadway musical "Cats." It also marked the 5,000th time a guy turned to his wife and said, "What the hell is this?"
by jd is legend on Nov 18, 2009 8:10 PM EST up reply actions
baseball
is a romance language
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Football is definitely a Germanic language
And, in a related story, this week marked the 5,000th performance of the Broadway musical "Cats." It also marked the 5,000th time a guy turned to his wife and said, "What the hell is this?"
by jd is legend on Nov 18, 2009 8:14 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
JD
ICH LIEBE DICH!!!!
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Nov 19, 2009 6:01 AM EST up reply actions
I know
I don’t see how people miss this
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
they should pay attention
I cannot repeal the words of the golden eel
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 18, 2009 9:01 PM EST up reply actions
Empathize
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by Cardinals645 on Nov 18, 2009 1:15 PM EST up reply actions
All this is completely fair
I guess the thrust of my thrusting here is that there are places you can go to get that kind of emotional fix, whether it’s a blog, or a movie, or having a heart-to-heart with a friend.
When I’m perusing a baseball blog, not only do I not expect it, but I’m not comfortable with it. If this post was a real person telling me this story, it would qualify as “too much information”. I’d be looking for a way out of the conversation. Maybe that says more about me than RB.
Far be it for me to quash the creativity of VEB writers (not that I flatter myself capable of such a thing anyway). But there are ways to make interesting non-baseball observations that are a little less slitted-wrist than this.
by arch support on Nov 18, 2009 4:15 PM EST up reply actions
I just think RB's post today comes way closer to crossing that line than usual
So I think you’re being perfectly reasonable. I’m still a bit on the fence about it. RB and the rest of the commenters here should not be surprised that his post was controversial, at the very least.
I don’t personally have a problem with some personal stuff in the posts, in fact I greatly enjoy it most of the time. This post did make me a bit uncomfortable, and I’ve mostly stayed out of the discussion because I am ambivalent about whether or not it was an appropriate thing for RB to write on the main page for the day. I feel like an adjusted or toned down version would have received few complaints, but the “to hell with it I’m just gonna let it all out” approach, while probably therapeutic, might have been a bad idea in hindsight. Again, it’s a close enough call that I’m not really sure exactly what I think.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
And there's nothing wrong
with thinking out loud … or in print as the case may be … er, wait. In cyberspace maybe?
I guess RB’s intensely personal post is responsible for this, I feel, good little thread going on here. So, I guess it’s at least partly redeemed.
by arch support on Nov 18, 2009 4:48 PM EST up reply actions
i "enjoyed" it
in fact found it a bit fascinating (in that i knew the road led to holliday, but wondered all along whether the “introduction” was fiction or not, since it was evocative of graham greene), and captivating, in retrospect, in that i didn’t just cut to the chase. i tend toward it’s totally rb’s call what he posts, but, in the same vein, am not bothered by even the strongest of stances otherwise, and i’m pretty sure rb isn’t either (and if he is i’m sure he’ll voice it, one way or another, at some point).
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
can we leave "slitted wrist" out of this conversation?
thanks.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Nov 18, 2009 4:58 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Apologies.
Meant it merely as a reflection of the mood of the post, not at all regarding the content thereof.
by arch support on Nov 18, 2009 5:29 PM EST up reply actions
TWSS.
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Nov 19, 2009 6:02 AM EST up reply actions
+100
"Haywood leads the league in all offensive categories, including nose hair. When this guy sneezes, he looks like a party favor." - Harry Doyle
by Futility Infielder on Nov 18, 2009 1:02 PM EST up reply actions
I agree...
that it’s not the proper forum.
…I still can’t help but relate to it, though. God damnit, just after I finally feel good enough to dive out my window, I read this. I’ll aim for the rocks.
by mynameistyler on Nov 18, 2009 6:40 PM EST up reply actions
I still don't understand why it isn't the proper forum
maybe I will by the time I get to the end of the comments, but I doubt it.
This thing is about love and baseball. Isn’t that what VEB is all about?
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Nov 18, 2009 7:43 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Just wanted to jump in and say this post was an incredible read. Shamefully, I haven’t been visiting the site as often as I once did, but I guess I couldn’t have picked a better day to hit VEB. Not only was it an unexpected find and refreshing change of pace, but also a masterfully written personal story that allows us (well, me and those that are less involved in this community) a chance to know and relate to red baron a bit more. Great stuff! Keep up the good work.
by mikeonthecards on Nov 18, 2009 9:51 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
personally its refreshing...
to be able to “get to know” this guy as opposed to just reading some mana from heaven.
We are all people and this is a community, we should do our best to be friends (or as close as you can over a blog) especially if a guy is hurting
by jealousblues on Nov 19, 2009 2:49 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I guess I tend towards that view too
so rec’d
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Nov 19, 2009 6:04 AM EST up reply actions
I'm just surprised it's up this early.
JK
Count me as having enjoyed it, and as someone who was set on having a bad day and feels slightly less lonely and miserable knowing someone else might be too.
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by Cardinals645 on Nov 18, 2009 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
PS
I too hate traffic court. GL, and try not to think about the fact that in traffic court you’re guilty until proven innocent.
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by Cardinals645 on Nov 18, 2009 1:01 PM EST up reply actions
Good gob
I go away for a couple days and the baron welcomes me back with quite possibly his best post evar.
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Nov 18, 2009 7:39 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Helpful
I happen to be at a bit of a crossroads in my life, professionally and personally.. And reading this, this morning, really helped. Perfect timing for such insight. Thank you.
Pulp. Dishes.
Excellent. “Help the Aged” from the same album is equally smart/slightly corny/outstanding. Though, not as applicable to your playlist unless you and Alex are getting Social Security checks.
Hang in there, dude.
It would be kind of cool if only one of us were, wouldn't it?
Here comes the funcooker!
by the red baron on Nov 18, 2009 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
i cant help but cringe
at Help the Aged for some reason
by jealousblues on Nov 19, 2009 2:59 AM EST up reply actions
I agree
it’s a poor song off an up-and-down album, IMO.
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Nov 19, 2009 6:05 AM EST up reply actions
I would also throw Don Wakumatsu in Seattle into the mix. He probably didn’t go as above and beyond as some of the other guys on this list, he did manage to begin the process of getting the Mariners turned around, and that’s no mean feat. Give him another year or two and he should win at least one of these awards when Seattle wins the division. I think Seattle GM Jack Zduriencik should get most of the credit this year, though, if only because he realised what a boon Franklin Gutierrez would be.(Also, I should get some credit for spelling his name correctly.) The Bill Bavasi era is quickly being forgotten in Seattle, and that is a beautiful thing.
Zduriencik is doing a fine job indeed, but I think it’ll be a while before they’ve fully recovered from Bedardgate. Also, I reckon Texas are going to steamroll that division for years to come. They’ve got a ton of young talent in the MLB team, the low minors, and to a lesser extent the high minors, and should be able to free up some $ to bring in some more pitching to add to Feliz and Holland in the near future. They’re set at every position for the next couple of years except maybe one side of the OF (I think Hamilton probably shouldn’t be a CF, and David Murphy is a bit meh but Cruz is a beast), and they have a reasonable bullpen.
I think it’s soon gonna be Texas Time in the ALW.
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
I don't agree with this...
Also, I reckon Texas are going to steamroll that division for years to come.
Oakland has a lot of young talent come up. A lot. They can’t keep any of it, but with a couple of short term FA signings at the right time they’ll have a 2 – 3 year window of being competitive.
Seattle is getting reorganized and will become competitive if they continue to spend money the right way and on the right players. Hell, they already have a pretty decent pitching staff and have a few guys on the way. They’ve gotten out from under the big crap contracts they had — the only thing that really hurts them is losing Adam Jones in a really stupid trade. I truly think they could act like a big market team if they wanted to, so if they get some decent young pieces in place I think they will be a player for some of the bigger name free agents over the next couple of years.
Anaheim is a big spender and will continue to spend big. They are also good at developing talent and are getting smarter about the FA contracts that they offer.
Texas has a lot of good talent coming up, no doubt, but even with all that talent, I don’t think they’re going to “steamroll” this division at any point in time — I do think they have an opportunity to be competitive for the next 4-5 years without spending a lot of money, and a chance to be one of the top teams in the AL if they decide to go out and get one or two big ticket FA (or make a big trade) in the next couple of seasons.
Please consider any Hot Stove talk in the above comment is spoken under the assumption that the Cardinals are not signing Matt Holliday.
Yes I agree with that
seems fair. I think Anaheim will see a bit of a tailling-off in the next couple of years, despite their resources, because they’ve got a couple of dodgy contracts (admittedly they’re not hurting them much now, I suppose you could argue, and they won’t get much worse), but it’s possible (probably?) they’ll continue to be a winning team.
I really don’t see a lot of light at the end of the tunnel for Oakland. If they continue with that payroll, even with some nice young pitching (a lot of which is already up), I think they’re going to continue to struggle to compete in what is going to become a very good division. Beane will have to pick & choose the years he tries to compete (like this year, with the Holliday/Giambi pickups) pretty carefully.
Seattle are looking good in terms of their front office, I absolutely agree, but I just don’t think there’s (currently) the talent in the minors to be a major player, unless they seriously bump payroll. I could be wrong.
Still, I think all four teams could well be boasting .500+ records in the next few years, which will probably mean Texas won’t have it all their own way.
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by Felonius_Monk on Nov 18, 2009 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
I don't think, with the current unbalanced schedule setup
that its even possible for a division to have 4 teams over .500. I haven’t done the math, but I would guess that they would play each other too much for that to happen.
Please consider any Hot Stove talk in the above comment is spoken under the assumption that the Cardinals are not signing Matt Holliday.
surely they could all split every series with each other
and be over .500 against the rest of the league
by brackenthebox on Nov 18, 2009 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
Not when
the rest of your league includes the AL East.
You can’t split 3 game series either.
Please consider any Hot Stove talk in the above comment is spoken under the assumption that the Cardinals are not signing Matt Holliday.
you can split an 18 game season series
and i don’t think the AL east has anything to do with the math (which is all I was addressing)
by brackenthebox on Nov 18, 2009 2:07 PM EST up reply actions
it... it was a metaphor!
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by Felonius_Monk on Nov 19, 2009 6:06 AM EST up reply actions
Wow
I just had to login and say thanks for that story. I really enjoy your writing and playlists good luck in traffic court!
Continual Drizzle
I live in the Chicago burbs, but we have basically the same weather today. I don’t mind the rain, as long as I’m not out in it. When I was in the Navy, I was stationed up near Seattle. With very little exaggeration, it starts misting on October 1st and stops on March 31st. Week and a half straight of drizzle, just enough to annoy you if you’re walking around outside. While it doesn’t depress me or make me wonder whether a shotgun is a woodwind instrument (hi, Kurt!), it would be kinda nice to see the sun or get a decent snowfall once in a while.
As for talking poorly but writing well, I’m all over that. Whether it is the ADD causing all of my thoughts to be jumbled or hating the idea of sounding less intelligent than I really am, I am of the opinion that I don’t do well talking to others. Of course, I then sit there and obsess over what I wrote and end up with a perfectly polished piece that has never been subjected to immediate feedback to let me know that i don’t know what I’m talking about. Ah, the best recipe for love letters from socially awkward people.
Music choices for a day like today: heavy into Rachel Yamagata, Ray Lamontagne, and Damien Rice, maybe some Morphine or Red Elephant to liven it up
I was reading about how countless species are being pushed toward extinction by man's destruction of forests. Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us. - Calvin, Scientific Progress Goes "Boink", Watterson
i gave up trying
I just write now. I don’t even try to correct the missing words in my sentences anymore. Because when I read it back they will be their in my mind just not written down.
by FlimtotheFlam on Nov 18, 2009 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, editing your own writing is hard
Sometimes it helps to come back to it after a certain amount of time, but that’s just not feasible in some situations.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
i absoutely hate when people point out grammatical/spelling errors
When I am writing informally
by FlimtotheFlam on Nov 18, 2009 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
You spelled absolutely wrong
Free Milton
by all4tookie on Nov 18, 2009 12:56 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
you spelt "spelt" wrong
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by Felonius_Monk on Nov 19, 2009 6:06 AM EST up reply actions
I hate reading stories about people named Alex.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
Is it because of the "e" in their name?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I just get confused.
Why did I kiss RB and why don’t I remember it? Where am I?
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
(fancy writin', by the by, A-Train. Well done.)
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Nov 18, 2009 12:06 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Try being named Michael
It’s been in the top 3 in male names since like 1960. The world is full of Michaels, and someone is always yelling their name right behind you.
I stand by the fact my name is simply awesome
Patrick. I have a holiday name after mine where I get free drinks and kisses from drunk girls.
by FlimtotheFlam on Nov 18, 2009 12:42 PM EST up reply actions
I can see where Ash Wednesday as a last name can get the chicks.
by Tom_Lawless_Bat_Flip on Nov 18, 2009 5:54 PM EST up reply actions
my real name is Ted The Third Sunday After Micklemass
and I don’t feel it’s ever held me back.
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by Felonius_Monk on Nov 19, 2009 6:07 AM EST up reply actions
This is a cool resource:
Social Security Administration database of baby name popularity.
In 1981 Matthew jumped from #6 to the top three and didn’t drop below that until 2002, reaching a peak of #2 in the mid-nineties. The top 3 or 4 was remarkably consistent for a huge stretch of time there. Michael, Jacob, Matthew, and Joshua were enduringly popular. Jacob passed up Michael at some point, too.
In 2003 Matthew dropped to #4, then to #5, to #9 by 2007, and is now at #10, for 2008 anyway. I sense that my name is gradually fading out of popularity, whereas Michael, Jacob, and Joshua remain strong. Matthew’s place has been basically taken by Ethan. Weird, huh?
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Also
for 2008 Matthew was just ahead of Jayden. Harrumph!
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
the mattys are still strong on VEB
so at least there’s that
by brackenthebox on Nov 18, 2009 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
matthew will be my son's middle name
if it makes you feel any better…
(he’ll be here any day!)
Mizzou 37 - Illinois 9
Agreed
Though I am not as fresh-faced, probably. Mine turns 1 later this month.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Has anybody but me ever seen the "babies everywhere!" Granola bar commercial?
Very bizarre and funny.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Good thing he wasn't around long enough to sour it
Blaine Matthew Burns will be the world’s newest cardinals fan (which can’t happen soon enough if you ask my wife)
Mizzou 37 - Illinois 9
that was a Blaine Boyer reference
(Since it didn’t seem to come out that way)
Mizzou 37 - Illinois 9
You're one of like five of my friends on facebook whose child is due any minute now
I guess alot of people have sex on Valentine’s Day, who knew?
And, in a related story, this week marked the 5,000th performance of the Broadway musical "Cats." It also marked the 5,000th time a guy turned to his wife and said, "What the hell is this?"
by jd is legend on Nov 18, 2009 3:53 PM EST up reply actions
the baby's born on Friday the 13th in my town were numerous
his due date isn’t for another 2 weeks, but signs are pointing towards an early appearance.
he’s already over 8lbs and on schedule to be over 10 if she goes full term.
(I feel like I should get her an “I’m sorry” card or something)
Mizzou 37 - Illinois 9
I didn't get a harumph out of that guy
love me some blazing saddles!
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Dammit!
Jacob is that popular now? I was going to name my kid Jacob! (theoretically one day, in like 5-8 years) It had better be unpopular again by the time that rolls around.
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by Cardinals645 on Nov 18, 2009 1:06 PM EST up reply actions
What the hell?
How has it been the number one name for like, a decade, and yet I don’t recall knowing anyone named Jacob until high school?
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by Cardinals645 on Nov 18, 2009 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
i thought Jacob was a Jewish name
You are right though that I don’t know any other Jacob’s
by FlimtotheFlam on Nov 18, 2009 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
I think most Jakes are probably taken down officially as Jacobs
But it is kind of weird. I was born in 1984, and I know plenty of Michaels, Christophers, Daniels, Davids, but almost no Joshuas that I can think of, and Joshua was close to the top in that period consistently.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
I didn't know any Jakes either though.
But I had three Ryans in my 7th grade class of like 30 kids. Two Davids as well. At least one Michael and Matthew that I can recall, etc.
Maybe they’re more popular in certain regions? Like in one state, everyone names their son Jacob.
Offseason Rumors : Me :: Unicorn Blood : Voldemort
by Cardinals645 on Nov 18, 2009 1:17 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, that's something that the database doesn't illustrate
The regional thing I mean. I wouldn’t be surprised if there was a regional component to some of the names. Though, Michael and Christopher and the like seem pretty popular everywhere.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
I've known a bunch of Davids and Chris's.
And two Chase’s since Elementary school.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Found it.
Offseason Rumors : Me :: Unicorn Blood : Voldemort
by Cardinals645 on Nov 18, 2009 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
Jacob only 4th in Ca.
Explains things to an extent, for me.
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by Cardinals645 on Nov 18, 2009 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
my bro was born in 82 & is named josh
there was like 5 of them that were his friends growing up
pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels
I was in Target with my husband last year.
We were in the outdoorsy aisle, which ran perpendicular to the toy aisle. A guy of about 20 was in our aisle, and a woman with a toddler and an infant were in the toy aisle. The woman said, “Joshua,” in an annoyed voice. The toddler, my husband and the guy all looked at the woman.
“Hey, that’s my name,” said the guy.
“That’s my name,” said my husband.
Everyone laughed.
THE END.
Now with extra feisty!
i rarely meet people with the name Patrick
only a few times in my life. I normally challenge them to a fight as their can only be one.
by FlimtotheFlam on Nov 18, 2009 11:26 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I knew a guy named Patrick.
About every girl in my school had a crush on him at some point. Great guy friend, terrible boyfriend. Although now I think he’s got it together and has a serious girlfriend while going to the Air force Academy.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 18, 2009 11:48 PM EST up reply actions
My wife nicknamed me Mattrick long before we were ever a couple
So I kind of like the name Patrick. Just probably not enough to name a kid Patrick. Ha, take that, Patricks of the world!
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
I have a Grandma Pat.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
That's awesome
It’s like that episode of The Simpsons (there’s always an episode of The Simpsons for every life situation) where Bart and Lisa are at Itchy and Scratchy Land. Bart gets annoyed that there are no “Bart” souvenir license plates but plenty of plates for “Bort”. Then some lady says “Come here, Bort.” A random guy goes, “were you talking to me?” And the woman says, “no, my son is also named Bort.”
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Jacob is a name from the Old Testament.
So a lot of Jewish boys are probably named Jacob but a lot of Christians name their kids names from everywhere in the Bible. And it’s not a name that non-Christians or non-Jewish peolpe wouldn’t use either.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
What was Yogi Berra's parents thinking?
by Tom_Lawless_Bat_Flip on Nov 18, 2009 5:59 PM EST up reply actions
"Man, I hope no one comes up with a legendary cartoon in 25 years that resembles our son's name"?
Free Milton
or maybe
“Gee, if our son Lawrence grows up to be really famous and somehow gets the nickname Yogi, I hope no classic cartoon character is given a moniker modeled after that nickname a cheap play on our last name. If that does happen, though, we really hope said character can pronounce ‘picnic’ properly.”
Free Milton
Did he have a little buddy named Booboo?
True story: Yogi grew up in St. Louis, in The Hill. Once an interviewer asked him what it was like always being the “athletic kid” and getting picked first in pick up games and stuff like that. Yogi responded that he didn’t know what that was like, because he grew up with Joe Garagiola, and Joe was always the one who got picked first instead of him.
Apparently scouts always thought Garagiola was better. Garagiola jokes that “Not only was I not the best catcher in the major leagues, I wasn’t even the best catcher on my street!”
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
isn't it pinella and larussa
grew up together in tampa, and larussa got the big bonus?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Yeah, I think they also grew up together
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
true story
before I got into baseball, I had assumed Yogi Bear was a play on also-quite-similarly-named inventor of the television John Logie Baird (which, when you think it was a non-baseball-based cartoon which aired, ummm, on the TV, would actually make more sense, I suppose).
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by Felonius_Monk on Nov 19, 2009 6:11 AM EST up reply actions
Interesting
It does make at least as much sense, if not more.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Jacob has been at or near the top for a quite a while now
and is still going strong. It is currently #1, so I think the most you could hope for is that it is a “down-ballot” name by that time.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Yea, that's what I was thinking.
Looking at this though, it seems that the top names are smaller and smaller percentages of the overall births.
Offseason Rumors : Me :: Unicorn Blood : Voldemort
by Cardinals645 on Nov 18, 2009 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
And besides that
how long did it take you to learn to spell your own name? (Michael is just one of those words that I always, always, want to spell incorrectly. I never type ae before first typing ea and have to go back and fix it.)
by ArkansasTravs on Nov 18, 2009 10:20 PM EST up reply actions
I never seem to run into this problem
-Bracken
by brackenthebox on Nov 18, 2009 12:05 PM EST up reply actions
I just get appallingly drunk
and travel around the country and write stories about it. That’s the only time people confuse me with others.
Life's a river, kid, you gotta go where it takes you.
-Wayne Malloy
by KerouacCardinal on Nov 18, 2009 12:16 PM EST up reply actions
But this is about a girl named Alex
so you are in the clear (pending your review by the International Association of Athletics Federation).
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by azruavatar on Nov 18, 2009 12:06 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Why so quick to dismiss TLR as NL MOY?
I get Gonzalez as the favorite, but I have a problem with giving some one a MOY Award just because they aren’t Clint Hurdle. Yeah, I realize there’s more to it than that, as he did make some lineup changes that seemed to work well.
But as for TLR, he managed to win a division in a walk despite having 2 above-average offensive players on the roster, and only one of them for the whole year (Pujols), reinventing SS and 3B on the fly, letting necessity be the mother of a2B invention, coaxing a down-ballot Cy Young year out of a journeyman pitcher (yes, since Dave Duncan is on TLR’s staff, I think TLR gets credit for Piniero), and making a “closer” out of a journeyman. 91 wins with that roster was a heck of a feat, and keeping the team in it pre-Holliday to make the Holliday trade possible was an impressive feat.
TLR would be 2nd on my ballot.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Nov 18, 2009 12:05 PM EST reply actions
+1
On paper, the team was a disaster before all the trades started. Yet they managed to win plenty of games with a Thurston/Barden tandem at 3B, Khalil Greene at SS, and Duncan and Ankiel BOTH starting games. TLR should get some serious credit for that.
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
Khalil Greene, Duncan, and Ankiel
All did very poorly compared to projections. Isn’t the manager suppose to get he most out of his players?
by FlimtotheFlam on Nov 18, 2009 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
Each of them suffered from serious injuries.
I think he got the most he could from them, given the circumstances.
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
Fracture of the brain

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by Felonius_Monk on Nov 18, 2009 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
A mental injury?
That’s what I was thinking when I posted that. Each suffered from serious ailments, perhaps.
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
But on the flipside
Trever Miller, Brendan Ryan, Pineiro, Waino, Carp, Skip (at 2B!) all exceeded expectations in some way or another.
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by Felonius_Monk on Nov 18, 2009 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
I think that any projection of
Khalil Greene or Chris Duncan would have had to be pure folly.
I mean, sure, we all hoped that Greene and Duncan would return to their former levels of productivity, but it’s not like it’s the first bad year that either of them had put up.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Nov 18, 2009 2:39 PM EST up reply actions
I think the problem
Is he read the Baseball projections of Khalil Greene. I was reading the Freudian projections. I knew he would have a down year, and that he was deathly afraid of Clown Genitalia.
unlike the rest of us normal people
who are perfectly comfortable with clown genitalia
by brackenthebox on Nov 18, 2009 2:48 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm comfortable
That Clown have genitalia, it’s the point that he’s deathy afraid of even the idea that Clowns could be sexual entities. trust me, it’s all there, just read the report.
Do clowns paint their wangs?
Do they have fake red nuts similar to their noses?
And, in a related story, this week marked the 5,000th performance of the Broadway musical "Cats." It also marked the 5,000th time a guy turned to his wife and said, "What the hell is this?"
by jd is legend on Nov 18, 2009 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
that question is much deeper than a 'yes' or 'no' answer...
Chicago Cubs: The first century was funny...this second one is just sad...
Also, what about a rainbow wig they use for pubes?
And, in a related story, this week marked the 5,000th performance of the Broadway musical "Cats." It also marked the 5,000th time a guy turned to his wife and said, "What the hell is this?"
by jd is legend on Nov 18, 2009 2:56 PM EST up reply actions
What happens when you squeeze--nevermind.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
unlike the rest of us normal people
who are perfectly comfortable with clown genitalia
taken completely out of any context, that is possibly the funniest sentence I’ve ever read.
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Nov 19, 2009 6:12 AM EST up reply actions
Agree with SSCF
Another point is that TLR had the Cards in contention before the big trades, arguably with a below average offensive group. Compare to Girardi, whose Yankees were doing little until A-Rod came back. Girardi certainly does not deserve much consideration for the award, while TLR does.
I hear you RB
I have had a friend like Alex before where it seems like we would be such a good match but the pieces just never feel together. It seems like you never are single at the same time. Afraid to make a commitment to each other and comprise the friendship you already cherish. Sometimes things are never meant to be but their is always hope of a divorce.
P.S
Sorry Alex’s Fiancée.
P.S.S
Did you read the the comments in yesterday’s thread RB? We had a conversation about how women and men can never be friends.
"Sometimes things are never meant to be but their is always hope of a divorce."
oh boy.
it's Clydesdales vs Goats. Actually sums up Cards vs. Cubs quite nicely. -all4tookie
i missed that
laughing so hard i think i’ve bruised a viscera
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Glad to see you've come around RB
It’s a definite second to Soft Bulletin for me.
(Insert Your Own Joke)
by AWolfAtTheDoor on Nov 18, 2009 2:03 PM EST up reply actions
I was all ready to be all excited about you mentioning WG
but then you just had to go and tell that sad story. Sorry RB. That sucks.
It’s raining and nasty here in SC if that makes you feel better.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
+1
jd is legend for Cardinals' closer 2010!!
by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 19, 2009 1:39 AM EST up reply actions
Going through something similar, RB.
she wont let me back in either. Just have to deal and move on, I guess. Great post.
Mo, you can trade anything of mine.
We've all been there
well, I guess a lot of us, anyhoo. Timing can be a bitch.
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Nov 18, 2009 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
Timing is always a bitch
Distance is the only thing that makes it better.
by Mulliganstew on Nov 18, 2009 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
This is true with life and with hits allowed.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Yo GDM
I feel really bad for ya, and I’mma let you finish
but nobody, and I mean nobody,
has worse timing with women than mattyfrommo!
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Nov 18, 2009 8:58 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
so long as we're spilling things out
so for some reason I’ve been talking to this girl I’ve never met before on the internets. she is really really cool, sort of stranded in Omaha. probably the coolest girl I’ve never met. anyway, the emails turned into a phone call last week that lasted an hour or so. went well, she said to call her back again. probably should go out and meet someone here in chicago though heh. we’re both pretty broke so I don’t think there will be much traveling going on. huh. what to do.
I cannot repeal the words of the golden eel
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 18, 2009 12:34 PM EST reply actions
My own personal experience of such relationships (well, one in particular) over long distance is a very bad one
so I probably won’t be offering too much advice!
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Nov 18, 2009 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
when I live in Ofallon
I wouldn’t even date a girl in the STL County cause that was a long distance relationship to me.
by FlimtotheFlam on Nov 18, 2009 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
This I don't agree with
I’m 20 years old, completely in love with a girl I’ve been dating since I was 14, going to a school with a reputation for having the most beautiful girls in the country (USC), and we’re making the long distance thing work.
That’s the key word, though… it’s work, and both of you have to understand that. There’s sacrifice involved, there’ll be nights where you fight, and there’ll be nights that you’d rather go out and get drunk with your friends but need to stay in and hash out problems with the relationship, but there’s never been a single moment where I’ve doubted how much I want this relationship to work
CFiC: Keep talking to her, man… If it’s worth the work, you’ll find out soon enough. Don’t dismiss a relationship as useless just because it might have to be long distance
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
I dunno man
I had a serious relationship end after 3.5 years because of distance problems
And, in a related story, this week marked the 5,000th performance of the Broadway musical "Cats." It also marked the 5,000th time a guy turned to his wife and said, "What the hell is this?"
by jd is legend on Nov 18, 2009 3:47 PM EST up reply actions
Well, I don't mean to sound rude
But maybe the relationship wasn’t worth the work for you guys. For me, this relationship IS worth it, and because of that, the long distance thing has been completely bearable. It sucks, but for the short-term, we can deal with it
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Yeah
I mean, now that it’s been a year and a half, she’s moved on to someone else, I’m completely over her, I guess it may have actually worked out. But I’ll say this: I’m in no mood to be in a long distance relationship any time soon.
And, in a related story, this week marked the 5,000th performance of the Broadway musical "Cats." It also marked the 5,000th time a guy turned to his wife and said, "What the hell is this?"
by jd is legend on Nov 18, 2009 3:54 PM EST up reply actions
Some people can't do LDR.
Like one of my best friends. She just isn’t the type. She gets distracted too easily.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
She gets distracted too easily.
This is probably not how the boys on campus routinely describe her.
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Nov 19, 2009 6:15 AM EST up reply actions
"distracted too easily"
is a eupehemism for easy? how quaint.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
She is not easy.
She is far from it. She’s my friend from church. She doesn’t do that stuff. She just flirts a lot. And has always been that girl that has to have a boyfriend. Currently she is in a very serious relationship. She just can’t do long distance because she needs someone there with her to keep her on track.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
She's settled down a lot recently.
I think it’s a combination of getting older and having probably her most serious boyfriend ever and being a relationship where for the first time everyone (not just her) thinks he could be the one. Also finally meeting a guy who doesn’t take all of her crap.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
If for whatever reason my relationship doesn't work out
I’m with you, man. I have no desire to ever do this. Ever again. Ever.
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Honestly, you're 20.
You’ll shrug us all off because you think you know better. But wait until you’re 35.
by Tom_Lawless_Bat_Flip on Nov 18, 2009 6:05 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
LDR don't work for me
Anything over a 30 minute drive is pushing it
by FlimtotheFlam on Nov 18, 2009 6:10 PM EST up reply actions
Best part of my day
is pulling into my driveway after work knowing it will be empty.
by Tom_Lawless_Bat_Flip on Nov 18, 2009 6:19 PM EST up reply actions
+1
Biggest mistake I ever made was wasting 3 of my college years trying to be in love with a girl I met in high school. Second biggest was spending the next year feeling sorry for myself. Doing either of those things is just stupid.
Great sex over thanksgiving break every year, though.
it's Clydesdales vs Goats. Actually sums up Cards vs. Cubs quite nicely. -all4tookie
agreed that it can work
My wife and I did long distance (Boston/Houston) for 4 years before getting married
by brackenthebox on Nov 18, 2009 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
yeah
time to go out tonight heh
I cannot repeal the words of the golden eel
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 18, 2009 1:24 PM EST up reply actions
Win a trip to omaha.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
yay!
I cannot repeal the words of the golden eel
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 18, 2009 1:24 PM EST up reply actions
Truly touching, RB
I could go on and on about how this is tugging at my heartstrings and making it rather difficult to do my work.
But mostly this is giving me the slightly terrifying thought that the girl I love might die at any time, and I don’t know what I would do with myself after she were gone.
I think you are strong to be where you are and strong to still be willing to be friends with Alex. I think you’re much stronger than I would be. And I think that this is a tremendous, moving article about the way sometimes our lives and the lives of others don’t line up and fit together in quite the perfect way, and the connection doesn’t hold due to timing or someone else or something else happening, and how that’s really shitty and life is a total asshole.
And I think I don’t really give a fuck about the Manager of the Year Award. So there’s that.
by mojowo11 on Nov 18, 2009 12:44 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Some advice
RB,
I think this post is disordered on several levels. First, I think it is pretty self-absorbed to unburden your own personal drama upon the readership of this blog.
I’m really unmoved by your unresolved feelings for Alex. My advice is to man-up and cut things off with her. No good can come of that relationship. Only a person who revels in unhealthy relationships and feelings would string that relationship along.
Another disorder, love should not be subject to an analysis based upon narrow self-interest. That was a pretty disgusting section of your post. It is very sad that your girlfriend was killed, and I feel genuine sympathy for your loss. But I wish you expressed your loss in terms of mourning Angie, rather than lamenting the missed opportunity with Alex, especially if the reason is that Alex had greater longevity. That’s pretty screwed up.
Lastly, comparing your situation to Matt Holliday cheapened everything that preceded it in your post. I almost thought I head a rim shot when you made the transition.
This post would have made for a nice fiction short story. And perhaps you can start a new blog where you regale the public with the vicissitudes of your intimate relationships.
But please don’t make me a voyeur into your life on this blog again.
So says, Titus Pullo (formerly The Dude)
I thought this post was going to be sarcasm
But you ended up just being a dick
by FlimtotheFlam on Nov 18, 2009 12:55 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
Palatial Regalia, juxtaposed with inanimate objects
(I just wanted to throw some fancy words in the discussion as well)
Mizzou 37 - Illinois 9
By "some advice"
Did you mean “some patronizing bullshit” and “some direct personal insults”?
by mojowo11 on Nov 18, 2009 1:01 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I'm more or less with you Dude...
I can’t stand this stuff on my favorite baseball blog… but it’s not that big of a deal, you just skip over it. I am psyched about Sundays now.
MB for LF in 2010!
That was rude
And really disgusting of you.
by Mulliganstew on Nov 18, 2009 1:09 PM EST up reply actions
yeah
it was really insulting, RB could have just not posted anything. it’s one of those days
I cannot repeal the words of the golden eel
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 18, 2009 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
I fail to see how that was rude.
I think TP is correct in every one of his points and I don’t think it’s unfair of him to ask that he not be exposed to it again.
by arch support on Nov 18, 2009 4:51 PM EST up reply actions
Your post was fine and you said basically the same thing.
My point is it’s fine that you feel that way. I’m not even sure if I disagree. But there are nice ways to say things and not so nice ways to say things.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
It was tottally uncalled for
He just wanted to be a douchebag, and he pulled it off. What the fuck is the deal with " Oh, I don’t like that kind of stuff , so where the fuck do you get off writing shit like this?" I hate, hate, hate when people on here pull shit like this.
This was a great piece of work by Aaron. Anyone who has read this blog for any decent amount of time should know that sometimes Aaron’s work is a bit more emotional than most. Crap, I am so upset with this crap that I am starting to ramble. There have been posts like this from trb before, and no one ever felt the need to be such an asshole in the comment section.
If you don’t like emotion being tied to baseball, from now on please refrain from reading on Wednesdays.
Fuck.
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Nov 18, 2009 7:58 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I like the extra expletive at the end there matty.
It really drives your point home.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
that's what she said
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
it was pretty obvious what this was going to be in the middle of the first paragraph
you could have stopped reading if you didn’t like it
unless you are the fiance’?
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
by VolsnCards5 on Nov 18, 2009 1:15 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I fucking read it!
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Nov 18, 2009 8:51 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I understand you are probably angry
but this was a little rude and over the line I think. Someone above said basically the same thing but much nicer.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
if he is angry
then he is disordered
unless he is the fiance’, as i said earlier
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Or upset.
He seemed angry so I said angry. But no he shouldn’t be angry. As RB said the fiance doesn’t even care enough to be angry.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
agreed
and just a word to RB…if this was my finace’, i would want to punch you in the face multiple times
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
didn't finish my thought
but i tend to internalize, so i probably would never follow thorugh and even act flippantly about the whole situation
just warning you that this could be one of those cases
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Good Point CG
I would add the point that while it may be inappropriate (I personally liked it and it reminded me of “The Will Leitch Experience blog”) I don’t see how relating personal tragedy is any more “rude” or “disgusting” then arrogantly throwing around psycho-analysis, and being specifically insulting. Whether or not appropriate, it’s just plain mean to be so harsh to someone that bared a part of their soul. You could get the same point across by saying, TMO and please don’t post something like that again, but the arrogance and persistence, will probably lead many to think it’s just posted to draw out some ire and start some kind of flame-war.
Also, what better way to at least counter the seamhead argument then to get a little glimpse into the lives that make up our fanhood. Personally, I would welcome a little more knowledge of the writers. I found LBoros more interesting posts were when he told us a little about his day and what he was doing, or going to be doing, and it always spawned questions in the comments sections. Off soapbox now.
I for one thought it was really cool
but then again, I am self absorbed
I cannot repeal the words of the golden eel
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 18, 2009 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
Dude
Let it go.
It’s the offseason, and there’s not much to write about anyway. I’d much rather have a personal not-really-baseball-related story that has some meaning, than have the 1 billionth “Who should we sign?” thread.* There has been zero substantial news on those fronts, and it is nearly 100% speculation, so we might as well talk about something else.
I’ve only been reading here for a while (a bit under a year I would guess), and I’ve noticed RB does this from time to time. Frankly, I’ve never failed to enjoy it. It puts things a bit into perspective.
Plus the guy wrote an entire extra section strictly about baseball topics, just to appease you and others that he probably expected would not enjoy the first part of his post.
- Not that I’m complaining about these. They’re inevitable, and it’s good to hear other (reasonable) people’s ideas. It helps me keep my expectations in check.
Offseason Rumors : Me :: Unicorn Blood : Voldemort
by Cardinals645 on Nov 18, 2009 1:29 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
You'd think
But it doesn’t seem to have worked.
Offseason Rumors : Me :: Unicorn Blood : Voldemort
by Cardinals645 on Nov 18, 2009 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe next time he should switch the two,
for those unable to scroll down.
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by Cardinals645 on Nov 18, 2009 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
you may have missed some sarcasm
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Nope.
Offseason Rumors : Me :: Unicorn Blood : Voldemort
by Cardinals645 on Nov 18, 2009 6:41 PM EST up reply actions
You're being very un-dude.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Nov 18, 2009 1:34 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
You are absolutely entitled to an opinion/critique
However…
“But please don’t make me a voyeur into your life on this blog again.”
…Doesn’t make much sense.
Put the telescope down. Problem solved.
by meat on Nov 18, 2009 1:43 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
but he's the head of the blog!
I cannot repeal the words of the golden eel
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 18, 2009 9:06 PM EST up reply actions
if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all. jerk.
pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels
by gdm426 on Nov 18, 2009 8:19 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Go somewhere else then
and, maybe you should be aware, that RB has mourned Angie more than once here. To imply otherwise is simply ignorant. There’s reasonable discussion about whether or not this sort of post belongs on a baseball blog but you’re way out of line to suggest that RB didn’t mourn the loss of his fiancee. It shows you simply don’t have the slightest fucking idea what you’re talking about.
Sometimes it’s better to keep your mouth shut and have people think you’re an idiot than to open your mouth and prove them right!
by chuckb on Nov 18, 2009 9:13 PM EST up reply actions 8 recs
Let me also say here
RB, I’m very sorry to hear about the loss of a loved one, and an unexpected one at that. From reading others’ comments today it seems like you’ve written about it here before, but this is the first I’ve heard of it. I must not have stopped by those other times. Anyways, my best goes out to you, and even though I don’t personally know you, when I read those words in your post today, it affected me as though it were one of my close friends telling me something like that.
That’s why I think VEB is such a great place. We don’t always see eye-to-eye on everything, but at the end of the day we’re united in our love for Cardinal baseball, and even though I frequent other blogs, I just don’t get the feeling of camaraderie I get here other places. I consider most all of you to be friends, even if we’ve never met (which I’ve never met any of you except for Leitch). Forget the haters, RB. Today’s post was excellent.
And, in a related story, this week marked the 5,000th performance of the Broadway musical "Cats." It also marked the 5,000th time a guy turned to his wife and said, "What the hell is this?"
by jd is legend on Nov 18, 2009 10:37 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I second the feeling of camaraderie.
It is weird how I consider the people on here to be my friends when I haven’t met them but it is what makes VEB great.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 18, 2009 10:47 PM EST up reply actions
yep
you’ve never seen me in real life.
jd is legend for Cardinals' closer 2010!!
by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 19, 2009 1:56 AM EST up reply actions
I believe the relevant post would be
this one, regarding the departure of Adam Kennedy and the resulting torrent of rage.
Here comes the funcooker!
by the red baron on Nov 19, 2009 9:53 AM EST up reply actions
This post makes me uncomfortable
but this is your forum, and i am glad you feel invested enough into it to put your heart out there like this
this does sound a lot like “made of honor,” that patrick dempsey flick, though
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Yes it does.
If RB next says they are getting married in Ireland I’ll start to be weirded out.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
wow weird
Because I just watched that movie with the wife this last weekend.
I was saddened by the ending of the movie because I was hoping that Patrick Dempsey’s character would realize that he had his chance, F-ed up and move on in a classy Bogart – Casablanca way, but it seems that era is dead, except in real life where RB has gone for the Bogart stance, although obviously Bogart never had a blog to express how he felt when he knew he couldn’t have Ingrid Bergman, but I bet if he did, he would have followed it up with MOY discussion as well, although back then the only meaningful stat for MOY was players slapped or punched
too many?
i’ve never been strong with the commas and quotations and how all that works
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
by VolsnCards5 on Nov 18, 2009 10:18 PM EST up reply actions
maybe the worst movie title ever
I had to review it for the maneater, and I discovered in the course of the movie that there is not a single honorable moment in the whole thing. Which means it was probably named “maid of honor” in the screenplay stage, and then one moron writer said to the other: “Hey, you know what? There are two ways to spell ‘maid’!”
the entire movie is absolute bollocks
and yes, i am saying that with a cockney accent
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
by VolsnCards5 on Nov 18, 2009 10:19 PM EST up reply actions
Yep I totally agree on that point
it’s not even a pun. WTF does “made of honor” even mean? How can someone, or thing, be “made” of honor? It’s a fucking abstract concept! Maybe, I dunno, “Man of honor” or something would vaguely work. Or perhaps “Crock of shit”, that kind of gets the point across, too.
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Nov 19, 2009 6:24 AM EST up reply actions
On Friday we will know who we are going to expose to the Rule V draft
I am excited to look at what other teams have to offer. I am hoping a backup catcher will be on that list.
Excellent story, RB
Made all the better because “Blue in Green” was playing on my iPod while I was reading it. It’s dreary here in Georgia as well. It means the winter is on its way, and I hate the winter.
And, in a related story, this week marked the 5,000th performance of the Broadway musical "Cats." It also marked the 5,000th time a guy turned to his wife and said, "What the hell is this?"
Everyone is in a really fucking bad mood today
both in my real life and my internet life (re: VEB).
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
I know, right!
that is very true
I cannot repeal the words of the golden eel
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 18, 2009 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
Well not everyone
I’m happy because today is my last day working this week and the wife and I are heading up to Prescott for some R+R. Also, I’ve been lucky in that I work literally kittycorner(sp?) from the Scottsdale Stadium, where the Scorpions play their fall ball games, so I’ve been getting that little fix of baseball for the past month and a half. however, Saturday is the last game.
There is something surreal about being at a game where there is about 100 people, most of which are scouts, and actually hearing the argument between the 3rd base coach/manager and the Umpire over whether or not the ump should have called a check swing a strike.
Here is the verbatim argument to deadpan silence in the stadium:
Check Swing
Umpire: “yes he went around, strike 2”
Batter backs out and stares at umpire as if his face has tentacles
3rd base coach/manager: “Let’s Go! Let’s Go! That wasn’t a swing” (disdain clear in his voice)
Umpire: (very stern, no nonsense tone): “Yes it was”
3rd base coach: “Let’s Go!”
3 seconds later, next pitch.
5 minutes later: my friend and I are still laughing and have officially sealed “Let’s Go!” as our new catch all term.
Is your friend Geiger?
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
I don't know what that means
Is Geiger someone who posts here? I’m still relatively new so I don’t know.
We went to a number of games, even venturing out to Surprise once to see the Cards players in their home stadium (which is gorgeous by the way but way out in BFE). Anderson was starting catcher, Jones was in Center, and Henly in right.
The coach for the Rafters was weird though in that he batted all his players from the same team right in a row. So it was All 3 Texas guys, then all 2 Mets guys with a Royals batter mixed in and all 3 Cards last.
From the one Rafters game I saw in Surprise this last saturday (small sample size warning) I got this impression. Daryl Jones is so F-ing fast in person that it reminded me of watching a young Kenny Lofton when I used to live in Cleveland. He made a spectacular catch where he slammed into the wall in straight away center while making a backhanded catch. His swing looked very smooth (great thing about AFL, we were sitting directly behind first base dugout, and I can get the pics from my friend Joel to post if anyone is interested).
I guess I didn’t see enough of Anderson from one game to know what his defense is like, but he was super late on the two steal attempts and had no chance of getting the guys, but I wasn’t paying attention if it was the pitchers fault. He also has a gorgeous lefty swing that is smooth and he is patient, working two separate counts from 0-2 or 1-2 back to a walk and an out 3-2 out after a couple more foul pitches respectively. Henley didn’t do anything memorable so I can’t comment on him.
Aaron Crow was ridonkulous striking out 6-7 in 4 innings (can’t access box to be sure) and was touching 96-97 with the fastball and breaking off some nasty stuff in the low 80’s high 70’s. Guy looked dialed in. The big 3rd Baseman for the Royals (Moustakas or as we were calling him Moose Steaks) was surprisingly agile, and made a great diving play on a ball down the line, but threw it away after the nice glove work. The guy also blasted 2 massive shots oppo that barely stayed in the 390-400 power alley and netted him a double and triple. Other than that, the game was lost by a Cardinals right hander who blew the game late by giving up a two run homer, leading Joel and I to think that it’s just part of the organizations MO.
Watch and learn.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pI8l87uyDXM
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Ah, damn. Beat me to it.
Offseason Rumors : Me :: Unicorn Blood : Voldemort
by Cardinals645 on Nov 18, 2009 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
pics of DJ tools would be cool
why don’t you slam them in a fanpost?
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Nov 19, 2009 6:26 AM EST up reply actions
That is pretty cool.
I always wanted to go to an AFL game. Seems more interesting to me than ST games in some ways.
I was really excited when I thought MLBN was going to show some. Turns out it was just the same “Rising Stars” game over and over. That one game was sweet though.
Offseason Rumors : Me :: Unicorn Blood : Voldemort
by Cardinals645 on Nov 18, 2009 1:49 PM EST up reply actions
I'm going to the "championship" game on Saturday
Too bad the Rafters (wtf is a Rafter) aren’t in it. I wanted some more DJ Tools. The game I saw him play in, he was 0-4 and overran second base ON A WALK and was tagged out. Not that impressed.
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
Rafters? I really hope that means someone who rides a raft, rather than a horizontal structural beam.
Also, Huck Finn would be kind of a cool mascot for a team called the Rafters. What is more American than some good ole Mark Twain and baseball?
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
knee-jerk conservatism?
I keed, I keed…
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Nov 19, 2009 6:28 AM EST up reply actions
Actually we Americans are very tolerant of both liberalism and conservatism
as long as they’re both of the knee-jerk variety.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
as it should be.
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Nov 19, 2009 10:50 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I was.
I hope that it wouldn’t happen twice, ever. Let alone to the same person.
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
I forgot about that awesome catch he made, though.
I guess I was expecting a little more from him offensively, especially since the AFL is supposed to be hitter-friendly.
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
How funny was the yelling from the guys behind home plate
One guy kept yelling, “How can he be out, it was a walk. Come on Blue!!”
I was behind the first base dugout, and he had slowed down on the steal, so it seemed obvious that he knew it was a walk. Do you know what happened? Don’t forget that he also got thrown out on the snap throw to First that day also. Bad baserunning day for Tools.
Joel and I disagreed
on the snap throw to first. He obviously beat the throw back, but I thought that his hand got caught up on the 1st baseman’s shoe, which is the only reason I could see that he was called out. But we had a bad angle, so it’s just an assumption.
I was sitting right above the dugout on the first base side
and I saw that play pretty clearly. Either the umpire just totally blew it, OR, like you said, his hand got caught up in the shoe. I said the same thing at the time. Because we couldn’t see his hand, as the shoe and the plate were blocking the angle slightly. I was upset about the call, though.
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
wait a second
you were on the first base side also? Were you down near where the players were messing with that kid with a ball on a string, or which side were you on relative to that, because I was sitting first row, behind the dugout with two other guys, and we were laughing our asses off at the player teasing the kid with the ball, which was further down the line.
Well I don't remember the kid and the ball and the string
But we moved to the third base side maybe in the fourth inning or so, because we wanted to sit in the sun.
You would have seen me if we were by each other, I was wearing a bright red Cardinals hoodie and I didn’t really see anyone else around me wearing red.
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
Before we moved
I was like three rows up behind the dugout, on the side further from home.
I noticed some people calling Cardinals players by their first names – maybe that was you?
BTW, I also found it very strange that all the guys of the same team batted in order, so there were groups of Mets and Cardinals players.
I also wondered where all the Yankee guys were? They had one pitcher come in and that was it.
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
ok
The string thing was in like the 7th or 8th inning. Basically it looked like a player taped a ball to a shoe string and then kept throwing it over the dugout roof from within and when the kid tried to grab it, he yanked it back. It was all in good fun because he let the kid have it afterwards.
You must have been further down. I wasn’t wearing Cards stuff, but me and Joel were wearing Rafters hats, and he was wearing a Cards jersey. We’re hard to miss also because all three of us are 6-2 to 6-4. We were closer to the home plate side of the first base dugout. We were saying things like, let’s get a hit Bryan, or Daryl, etc. so it might have been me. I unfortunately will not be able to make the Saturday Championship game, but Joel will be there in my stead. I probably did see you because I was noting the handful of Cards shirts/jerseys, and how there was a mix of other teams also. At one point there was a young guy with a camera (scout probably or scout asst.) who was just to our right, so if you remember that, we were right near them. Small world, how weird. Maybe I’ll run into you at a Spring Training game. I’ll remember to bring a sign that says “Everything I know about VORP, UZR, and WAR I learned at VEB.” I figure that would perplex enough people and serve as a beacon to fellow VEBers.
That post?
that’d be a big shirt.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
Maybe just one that said
“Everything I know about FIP I learned at VEB.”
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
Maybe make them customizable: "Everything I know about [blank] I learned at VEB"
Everything I know about advanced baseball statistics I learned at VEB
Everything I know about Chris Carpenter’s righteous, smoldering anger I learned at VEB
Everything I know about the ghost of Christy Mathewson I learned at VEB
Everything I know about punctuation inside quotation marks I learned at VEB
Everything I know about Clemson I learned at VEB
Everything I know about mustaches I learned at VEB
This t-shirt would quickly get off topic.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Nov 18, 2009 4:02 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This is a fantastic idea.
Everything I know about memes I learned at VEB.
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
As an aside
I like the idea of a shirt now that says:
“I’ve read the ghost of CM” or
I’ve channeled the ghost of CM.
Everything I know about dating I learned at VEB.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Yes.
Which is why I take my advice from other sources.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
gdm is going to be very upset when he reads this
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
Why?
I’ve been more confused today than most days. What an odd Wednesday.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
I just figured after these last several months
that gdm was starting to become VEB’s very own Chuck Woolery.
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
COME ON DOWN!!!!
but watch yourself on the stairs
by FlimtotheFlam on Nov 18, 2009 8:48 PM EST up reply actions
Does VEB have its very own Bill Brasky?
I think everybody should have a Bill Brasky.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
no need to be redundant
they have a department for that
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Yeah, it was the weirdest thing.
He was attempting a steal but he slowed down to a trot, so I agree, he knew it was a walk. So it doesn’t really do justice to the play to say he “overran” second. He overwalked it, really. He just walked right past the base, I was dumbfounded.
However, I initially thought that once the walk was issued, the play was dead, so maybe he thought that, too? Either way, it was wrong, the play wasn’t dead, because as my bf pointed out, if they had overthrown the ball to second, DJ could have taken third on the play.
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
you can't "overwalk"
first either, and if he is unaware of these simple things…oh well.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
did he know about the tuck rule?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I'm in a fairly good mood for a rainy day.
Usually rain puts me in a bad mood but my first class was optional today (so guess who didn’t go) and I got to sleep late.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
It's sunny as hell here in Santa Barbara, Ca...
:-D
Offseason Rumors : Me :: Unicorn Blood : Voldemort
by Cardinals645 on Nov 18, 2009 1:49 PM EST up reply actions
We need the rain so I guess I shouldn't complain.
Now we can turn the fountains on again.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Touche
We’ve had like 5 fires in the last year or so here. Fun stuff.
Offseason Rumors : Me :: Unicorn Blood : Voldemort
by Cardinals645 on Nov 18, 2009 1:53 PM EST up reply actions
Yes...
but you have to put up with “Californians”, so I think it’s an even trade off.
Please consider any Hot Stove talk in the above comment is spoken under the assumption that the Cardinals are not signing Matt Holliday.
heh
not sure exactly what you are meaning, but ive spent 10 yrs here in cali and grew up on the east side and i would say that i much prefer the ‘californians’
I spent the better part of a year in Long Beach
trying to organize the shipping, logistics, and loading with a company and found the work ethic of the employees that work there to be pretty uninspired, and they weren’t even union!
Please consider any Hot Stove talk in the above comment is spoken under the assumption that the Cardinals are not signing Matt Holliday.
Maybe
but when you meet four other guys working that container yard for different companies, doing the same thing I’m doing, and all are from the midwest, um, that tends to tell you something.
Please consider any Hot Stove talk in the above comment is spoken under the assumption that the Cardinals are not signing Matt Holliday.
I don't know if you're in the age bracket to participate in such festivities
But how was UCSB’s Halloween this year?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
happiest thing I could think of to cheer up the masses

by brackenthebox on Nov 18, 2009 2:11 PM EST up reply actions 35 recs
awesome.
Offseason Rumors : Me :: Unicorn Blood : Voldemort
by Cardinals645 on Nov 18, 2009 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
What are you looking at Brad Lidge?
Can’t you see there’s a fucking UNICORN 60 feet away from you?!
And, in a related story, this week marked the 5,000th performance of the Broadway musical "Cats." It also marked the 5,000th time a guy turned to his wife and said, "What the hell is this?"
by jd is legend on Nov 18, 2009 2:14 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
cause it will eventually spit on you?
by FlimtotheFlam on Nov 19, 2009 12:24 AM EST up reply actions
because there are no unicorns
dude
I cannot repeal the words of the golden eel
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 19, 2009 12:29 AM EST up reply actions
WHAT?
UNICORNS AREN’T REAL?
Next you’re going tell me Harry Potter doesn’t exist.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 19, 2009 12:31 AM EST up reply actions
....

pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels
by gdm426 on Nov 19, 2009 12:42 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I want to know how they caught a snapshot of him in the middle of saying that
While he was in a room of like 400 people
And, in a related story, this week marked the 5,000th performance of the Broadway musical "Cats." It also marked the 5,000th time a guy turned to his wife and said, "What the hell is this?"
by jd is legend on Nov 19, 2009 12:46 AM EST up reply actions
Actually it's a different photo
This is a reaction shot of him watching Pujols own Lidge. The exact quote was, I think, “OH NO YO DIDN’T!!!”
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
It's a full session of congress with everyone important in one room
There’s probably 10000 cameras in that room.
Not afraid to nitpick
That's what they want you to think!
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
I'm just asking questions!
/southpark
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
Beautiful,
just beautiful.
"He stands there like a man. They didn’t teach him fear at home, where he grew up. It’s not part of his bag." - Felipe Alou on Albert Pujols
"Ryan Howard hit behind Jimmy Rollins and Chase Utley. If Albert Pujols hit behind Jimmy Rollins and Chase Utley, he would have had 493 RBI. Do the math. It checks out." - FJM
by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Nov 18, 2009 2:35 PM EST up reply actions
i love how the unicorn looks as if he is nibbling the bat...
is there anything better than unicorn nibbles?
Chicago Cubs: The first century was funny...this second one is just sad...
Common knowledge:
Albert’s bat tastes of crisp bacon
Free Milton
by all4tookie on Nov 18, 2009 2:45 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
i would rec it, but there are no wings of bacon
ah hell, i’ll rec it anyway
pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels
heh
I cannot repeal the words of the golden eel
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 18, 2009 9:07 PM EST up reply actions
Nice "heh"
You have a knack for that, Chitown
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
I like how it's a palindrome and very concise
I cannot repeal the words of the golden eel
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 18, 2009 11:57 PM EST up reply actions
and vague
my theory is that palindromes could be utilized as a learning aid for dyslexics (actually i just made that up, but now i’ll probably spend some time thinking about it, researching dyslexia, collecting palindromes…)
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
most rec'd evar?
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Nov 19, 2009 6:33 AM EST up reply actions
Whoa.
This still VEB? But I don’t come every day so I guess you all get tired of discussing left field options.
Hey Ump!
That's an interesting sub-issue...
Is it really valid to say that there simply aren’t enough interesting things to talk about with regard to baseball and the Cardinals? I can understand if people don’t have time to write a hugely long and detailed analysis, but that’s different than saying there’s nothing baseball-related that’s interesting.
MB for LF in 2010!
it's pretty tough to come up with something Cardinals-related EVERY day
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Nov 19, 2009 6:35 AM EST up reply actions
To be honest
These posts are one of my favorite parts of the offseason here at VEB. They are pretty rare, which is probably a good thing, but every now and then on a Wednesday, I’ll get taken up in a post like this. And I like being taken up in something like this on occasion. RBs post when he first shared the death of Angie with us still remains one of the better blog posts I’ve ever read.
We have 3 months before pitchers and catchers even report. We have plenty of time to rehash the same old things we’ve discussed for the last month.
He hit it good. He hit it good.
by Jack618 on Nov 18, 2009 1:59 PM EST reply actions 5 recs
+1
Offseason Rumors : Me :: Unicorn Blood : Voldemort
by Cardinals645 on Nov 18, 2009 2:20 PM EST up reply actions
exactly the way i feel
on a cold rainy day in November this was the perfect thing to read, imo…that is why i come to this site. its dan’s cleverness and wit, rb’s long narrative that have feeling and tom and vep’s analysis…if it was the same thing every day i wouldn’t have kept visiting for the last 3.5 years in fact this is the only site i regularly visit that i did that long ago because the rest get stale and repetitive…
just my 2¢, as if anyone wanted to know…
Chicago Cubs: The first century was funny...this second one is just sad...
your comment is much like your sig
you hit it good
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
this post just made perfect sense this wednesday
I cannot repeal the words of the golden eel
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 18, 2009 9:08 PM EST up reply actions
What the?
Holy Self-Indulgence….I’m sure the guy she’s marrying will be super stoked when he reads this as well.
by mwrg on Nov 18, 2009 2:00 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Titus Pullo already posted above.
Offseason Rumors : Me :: Unicorn Blood : Voldemort
by Cardinals645 on Nov 18, 2009 2:20 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Oh
Gee, thanks for pointing that out. I shouldn’t be in the halls without my pass…
No, sorry, that was unclear.
I was joking that Titus might be the fiance.
Offseason Rumors : Me :: Unicorn Blood : Voldemort
by Cardinals645 on Nov 18, 2009 2:37 PM EST up reply actions
See, because he was angry...
nvm.
Offseason Rumors : Me :: Unicorn Blood : Voldemort
by Cardinals645 on Nov 18, 2009 2:39 PM EST up reply actions
zing!
I cannot repeal the words of the golden eel
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 18, 2009 9:09 PM EST up reply actions
Oh yeah man!
He’ll probably be like, hey, I’m going to marry this woman that I love and this other guy is writing on the internet about how life machinations forced him to miss any conceivable chance with her. I’m so…mad?
yes cause clearly all men are so insecure that the idea that another man thinks your fiancee is a catch
is worthy of anger
Thanks for the enlightenment...
god this blog is getting weirder by the day…..
...

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Nov 18, 2009 5:19 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Sammy Sosa
didn’t take off the ghost costune for halloween.
My halloween costume: the Indiana secondary iPhone- no matter how much you want to love it, you know the coverage area sucks.
-ChronicHoosier
aaaaahhhhhhh!!!
I cannot repeal the words of the golden eel
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 18, 2009 9:10 PM EST up reply actions
That picture isn't sepia-tone
but it’s definitely creepia-tone
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Nov 18, 2009 11:56 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
wow
that is awesome
I cannot repeal the words of the golden eel
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 18, 2009 11:59 PM EST up reply actions
It really rolls of the tongue...
Lawless Bat Flip, that’s your cue…
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
how the hell is that not green, people???
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Nov 19, 2009 10:52 AM EST up reply actions
I think I posted it a little too late in the thread's lifecycle.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
It's taken all week but I've finally figured it out
Ironically enough, that picture makes me think of Al Jolson:
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isn't irony grand?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
November is the cruelest month? (apologies to T.S. Eliot, and Yadi 2 Second, you know why)
I knew we were in for a “big” post when I saw the ferris wheel picture.
Ferris wheels are a great metaphor though, aren’t they? In fact, they’re a combination metaphor. They are both cyclical, in that they’re a wheel, and, due to gravity, a metaphor for the “up and down” nature of life. And no, I don’t think those are the same thing.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Ferris Wheels make me think of
Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare and that fucking impossible level with the Ferris Wheel on Veteran. Fighting off hundreds of guys with a guns, grenades, and some claymores. Took me hours to beat that level.
by FlimtotheFlam on Nov 18, 2009 2:05 PM EST up reply actions
And, they're run by carnies.
That has to be a metaphor for something.
"He stands there like a man. They didn’t teach him fear at home, where he grew up. It’s not part of his bag." - Felipe Alou on Albert Pujols
"Ryan Howard hit behind Jimmy Rollins and Chase Utley. If Albert Pujols hit behind Jimmy Rollins and Chase Utley, he would have had 493 RBI. Do the math. It checks out." - FJM
by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Nov 18, 2009 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
i prefer
the ferris wheel in houston – who drew that?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I can't remember but it was awesome and quite accurate as I recall.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Hi Carlos Lee!
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
yes!
that should definitely be included in any VEB 2009 highlight package. that was probably the time i got hooked on this site – thanks alot, aixfritz…for nothing!
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
oh that's from way back
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
To track down that picture,
I did a Google search:
nl central preview “johnny keane” “braden looper” connect four
It was fun just to type. It got one result.
I like this Sarcasm
Major League Jerk has learned that [Happy’s favorite team] has had preliminary discussions with [some other team] on a potential deal which would involve [an overpriced veteran on Happy’s favorite team, B-level prospects on Happy’s favorite team that Happy wouldn’t mind trading away, and the other team’s All-Star 1st baseman who plays gold glove defense].
omg!
my first post ever!
Go Cards! and stuff.
"like those hip musicians with their complicated shoes!" - George Costanza
C for Cardinals
And, in a related story, this week marked the 5,000th performance of the Broadway musical "Cats." It also marked the 5,000th time a guy turned to his wife and said, "What the hell is this?"
by jd is legend on Nov 18, 2009 2:35 PM EST up reply actions
F for fuuuuuuuuuuuuuudge
I cannot repeal the words of the golden eel
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 18, 2009 9:13 PM EST up reply actions
H for haters
I cannot repeal the words of the golden eel
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 18, 2009 9:25 PM EST up reply actions
J for JD
:)
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by jd is legend on Nov 18, 2009 9:34 PM EST up reply actions
K is for King Douche.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
M is for Molinas.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 18, 2009 9:40 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
N is for nerds
I cannot repeal the words of the golden eel
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 18, 2009 9:40 PM EST up reply actions
O os for Off Topic Posts!
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
Q is for the letter Q.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
W is for What the fuck happened to V?
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by jd is legend on Nov 18, 2009 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
X is xylophones.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 18, 2009 10:06 PM EST up reply actions
Z for I fucking hate all of you
by vivaelpujols on Nov 18, 2009 10:28 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Or
Z is for simultaneously marking and tabbing forward.
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
by IHeartBoog on Nov 18, 2009 10:30 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
that is perfect...
i find it odd that the z key is the most worn on my keyboard…that doesnt even happen to people named Zachary…number 47 on most popular boys names…see what i did there?
Chicago Cubs: The first century was funny...this second one is just sad...
we love you though VEP
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Nov 18, 2009 10:45 PM EST up reply actions
bitterness is expected
when V is totally skipped and your name is VEP and you are a contributor to VEB.
Is L for Love because we Luggage those we Love the most?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Aw.
And, in a related story, this week marked the 5,000th performance of the Broadway musical "Cats." It also marked the 5,000th time a guy turned to his wife and said, "What the hell is this?"
by jd is legend on Nov 18, 2009 10:07 PM EST up reply actions
c'mon up there
y is easy…a catcher…yorvit!
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
F for replay FAIL.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 18, 2009 2:46 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It's hard
when it’s at the bottom, because the post a comment window is already open. So it’s like, don’t mind if I do.
by RDCardsfan on Nov 18, 2009 2:48 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Arizona gives "E"s instead of "F"s
I guess it’s supposed to make people feel better about failing?
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
Maybe that's the point.
A, B, C, and D don’t stand for anything. Now E is just last in a series, not an explicit Failing label.
I think that's right.
It makes sense. Maybe Arizona is the sane one, after all.
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
A for Awesome.
B for Better
C for Common
D for Doubt you tried (that one’s stretching it).
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Diploma
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by jd is legend on Nov 18, 2009 3:45 PM EST up reply actions
or to avoid the tragic case of getting an F
for incorrectly reproducing the first 5 letters of the alphabet
by brackenthebox on Nov 18, 2009 3:09 PM EST up reply actions
You can outside the U.S.
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
Get an E, that is
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
And I apologize to all of our out of country VEB'ers.
I really meant that my grading system is an American grading system, not found at the University of Arizona.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
America's grading system
Also known as “God’s grading system”
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Apology accepted
I have no idea how many VEB’ers are non-Americans AND living outside of US like me; anyway, I’ll say this as a self-claimed representative of us. (Amem!!) We fully accept your apology. It’s all right haha.
Cardinals fan from Korea
by FreeRedbird on Nov 19, 2009 12:14 AM EST up reply actions
You don't write Redbirds Nest in Korea, do you?
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Yes
I’m running that blog. There are no English material there, though.
Cardinals fan from Korea
by FreeRedbird on Nov 19, 2009 12:30 AM EST up reply actions
Cool
I was translating it with Google earlier. It’s great to hear from Cardinals fans in other countries.
Don’t be afraid to comment here, also.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Wow
So you’ve been on my blog, haven’t you? That’s super cool!! My Korean-only blog has international visitors!!! Thank you very much.
Google translator is not very good at translating Korean into English. Believe me, my original Korean post is better than the silly translated one, hana.
I want to comment more here; however, due to the time difference, when I see the main post there are already hundreds of comments and I can almost always find someone already said earlier what I want to say.
Cardinals fan from Korea
by FreeRedbird on Nov 19, 2009 12:48 AM EST up reply actions
Yes, the time difference must be difficult
But I hope you enjoy Viva El Birdos.
Unfortunately I don’t know any Korean, so I have to rely on translators like Google. It is a little hard to understand, but I still can understand the basic ideas that you talk about.
I liked how you pointed out how valuable Yadier Molina was. I didn’t realize he was worth over 4 WAR this season. Are statistics like WAR commonly talked about in Korean baseball?
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
I'm enjoying VEB as much as anyone
Every morning, this is the first web site I visit. VEB is such an amazing community.
There are not many people here who have interest on sabermetrics topics. Futhermore, even those who talk about SABR things, usually talk about somewhat old-fashoned things like RC/27, Win Share or VORP. WAR is still a rather unfamiliar concept in Korea.
Cardinals fan from Korea
Interesting
It is both a blessing and a curse that people keep coming up with new and improved statistics. It is great to see better statistics developed, but it is hard for people to keep up I think (myself included).
Anyway, I have get some sleep now (it’s midnight in Saint Louis) but I am sure everyone here is glad that there is some love for VEB across the ocean.
Later
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
across the OTHER ocean...
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Nov 19, 2009 6:44 AM EST up reply actions
I meant "across the ocean" in general
Is it akaitori who’s based in Thailand or something? We have a decent contingent of cross-continental VEBers now.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
I was going to suggest a contest at some point when Flim was doing the t-shirts
for a prize for the VEBer who provided a photo of themselves in a VEB shirt in the wierdest/most remote/interesting place possible.
I got a couple in Koh Samui (Thailand) and Malaysia last month but I’m sure we could do much better than that. Something polar would be cool (literally and figuratively…)
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Nov 19, 2009 10:55 AM EST up reply actions
I thought you were making that up,
because Koreans playing starcraft is a stereotype. I had no idea you were serious.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
Hey freebird
환영
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Nov 19, 2009 6:43 AM EST up reply actions
well said haha
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Well, I evaluate college transcripts from all over the world,
so E is part of my grading system.
So there.
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
Touche.
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
In reality though when I actually do grade I probably will use E.
But it will mean Exceeds Expectations or something. So it will be an A. And A will be adequate and therefore a B. Elementary grading systems.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Maybe you should mess with their heads
Make A = Awful and F = Fantastic
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
See, this is why I shouldn't teach children
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
R for Rec'd.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
I'm with you
There’s no way boobies get a B or Cardinals get a C in any grading system I’m familiar with
by brackenthebox on Nov 18, 2009 2:52 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Well it started with an A for enthusiasm.
Enthusiasm doesn’t start with A.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
I just thought it was that Clemson education rearing its head again
I wasn’t going to say anything…
And, in a related story, this week marked the 5,000th performance of the Broadway musical "Cats." It also marked the 5,000th time a guy turned to his wife and said, "What the hell is this?"
by jd is legend on Nov 18, 2009 2:54 PM EST up reply actions
If I was allowed and it was something I would do
I would have some choice words for you.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
HEADSHOT
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Nov 19, 2009 6:45 AM EST up reply actions
Still got it, Bat Flip...
Still got it!
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
there's just something about
a Bat Flip TWSS that can’t be duplicated
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Bring it on, mini-Auburn
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by jd is legend on Nov 18, 2009 3:00 PM EST up reply actions
It's not something us classy Clemson Tigers do.
That’s a lie. Most of them would.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
So, so classy :)
And, in a related story, this week marked the 5,000th performance of the Broadway musical "Cats." It also marked the 5,000th time a guy turned to his wife and said, "What the hell is this?"
by jd is legend on Nov 18, 2009 3:02 PM EST up reply actions
6ly.
They’re called the Gamecocks. They’re asking for it.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
One of my favorite football games in Alabama
Jacksonville State vs. Troy
(Game)cocks vs. Trojans
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by jd is legend on Nov 18, 2009 3:06 PM EST up reply actions
It would be even better if SC met Oregon State in a bowl.
"He stands there like a man. They didn’t teach him fear at home, where he grew up. It’s not part of his bag." - Felipe Alou on Albert Pujols
"Ryan Howard hit behind Jimmy Rollins and Chase Utley. If Albert Pujols hit behind Jimmy Rollins and Chase Utley, he would have had 493 RBI. Do the math. It checks out." - FJM
by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Nov 18, 2009 3:07 PM EST up reply actions
That's great.
Last year didn’t USC play Oregon State? And wasn’t that pretty funny at times?
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Whoa whoa whoa...
Low blow there.
That said, our football team this year has looked AWFUL. The usual Pete Carroll defense isn’t there, and Matt Barkley has struggled a lot at times.
I just wanted one national championship in my four years here. Is that so much to ask?!
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
At least your team didn't go undefeated and not get a chance to play for one
And, in a related story, this week marked the 5,000th performance of the Broadway musical "Cats." It also marked the 5,000th time a guy turned to his wife and said, "What the hell is this?"
by jd is legend on Nov 18, 2009 4:13 PM EST up reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzbYoEJkDqM
I watch that video every time I’m upset about a USC loss
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Btw JD
Just saw your “Except Navy’s end zone” comment from last week. Extremely well played.
Free Milton
It would have only been better if Notre Dame had been shut out
I guess just a loss works well enough
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by jd is legend on Nov 18, 2009 6:28 PM EST up reply actions
You are the real USC.
Unless you to South Carolina. In that case I don’t know if we can be friends.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
No, we are the real USC
But low blow referencing the Oregon State game
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
It was hilarious.
At one point I’m pretty sure the announcers said “The Trojans penetrating the Beaver’s defense.” Come on. That’s hilarious and completely on topic with the discussion it was in. Therefore not a low blow since I never said “hahaha USC lost.”
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
And I know you're the real USC.
That’s what I said. I’m getting confused.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
My plan is working perfectly!
Haha, you were affirming that we were the real USC, and I was reaffirming to you that I do not go to South Carolina and that we were, indeed, the real USC
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Okay.
Good. I think I remember reading that there was even a court case that said South carolina is not allowed to put USC on their stuff anymore. Which I find hilarious.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
since we're talking college matchups...
How does Clemson’s bball team look? Illinois looks pretty good so far, but the upcoming game at Clemson could be intersting
Mizzou 37 - Illinois 9
I'm a little biased, obviously, but I think so
the talent level in the Big Ten is finally back up there and only going to get better.
Mizzou 37 - Illinois 9
SEC BASKETBALLZZORAZZZ RULZZZ!!!!!!!1111!!!!!
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by jd is legend on Nov 18, 2009 4:13 PM EST up reply actions
And Tennessee! 75-point win last night
Nevermind the early season losses to Cornell, Wofford, Missouri State, Rider……….
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by jd is legend on Nov 18, 2009 4:21 PM EST up reply actions
Clemson's good this year too.
It will be a great game. I’ll be there. In orange. Which doesn’t narrow anything down. I love Illinois basketball so I don’t like playing them. It makes things hard for me.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Clemson's tempo
will either make the final score look like an NBA game
- or -
will cause the freshman to play like freshman and make things ugly.
I know Davis and McCamey can handle it, but the Freshman will be interesting.
Mizzou 37 - Illinois 9
Yeah.
We’ll see. I think it will be close. I’m not confident either way at this point.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Seems it's Off-the-Rails Day at VEB. Fair enough
I’ll second an endorsement for the 18th Annual Whitaker St. Louis International Film Festival. There are something like 300 different films, docs, and events that you’ll only get to be a part of once a year. Lots of the stuff is pre-release or not yet in mass circulation (I got to watch Youth in Revolt (amazing) on Sunday, and it’s not released until January (I think)). Some of the stuff is free, and none of it will you get the chance to see at Ronnie’s.
I know you’ve all been wanting to see Ninja Assassin (most redundant title evar) but if you’re in STL and like going to the theater the fest is definately worth your time
/not a paid advertisement
"There's a lot of things we say that don't make sense to our viewers. Okay, primarily me." ~Al Hrabosky~
I hit up the Festival a few years back
Saw a couple movies at the Tivoli. Ended up seeing Lovely by Surprise, which I adored. Also, I saw a couple bad pieces of crap.
But either way, yeah, the Film Festival is awesome and everyone who still lives in the Lou should go.
dammit
why didn’t I pick the username ninja assassin?? crap
I cannot repeal the words of the golden eel
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 18, 2009 9:14 PM EST up reply actions
Awesome post RB...just ignore the haters
What makes this community special is that while we all come here because of a common love for the Cardinals we can also share and discuss just about anything.
As someone else said, we all have Alex’s in our lives. One of mine just reopned the door kind of unexpectedly and I’m not really sure what to do. I had finally gotten to a point where I was past that point in my life and then BAM she brings me back in.
And also, I identify quite closely with this:
I may be almost impossible to get close to in real life, but I have no problem writing painfully intimate details down and sending them out into the void for anonymous consumption
I’m at a point where premature cynical curmudgeonry is threatening to take over and I’m resisting it as hard as I can. My brother had his first girlfriend at 15. They dated through high school and then despite being on opposite ends of the country kept it alive through college. And then she went to Germany for post-graduate work and they still kept it together. Finally in August of last year they got married, 11 years after they first met. For me, 6 years my brother’s junior, this set up all sorts of expectations about high school/relationships/etc. I thought that’s how it worked for everyone. Those expectations of course were never met. My brother and sister-in-law are the luckiest freaks on the planet and I’m fine with that. I just wish I knew it when I was much younger.
So that’s that…. To keep this relevant all I’ll add is SIGN CHONE FIGGINS!
I'm like a polygon, I'm edgy.
"OHHHHH!!!!!!! IT TASTES. SO. GOOD!!!!!!!!!!"
-BOOOOOOOOG
RB, your effort is appreciated, despite all of the evidence to the contrary
This reminds me of my front page debut, where I tried to liven up the early February blues with a discussion about mixing baseball and the format for Premier League soccer (here, here, & here). On the second post, somebody was complaining about being bored with the subject and preferring to get back to the ad nauseum speculation prior to Spring Training. My (basic) response was to say that if you don’t like what I have to talk about, skip it and/or write something meaningful yourself.
I think that the red baron’s writing is compelling and worth reading. I think that his willingness to talk about personal subjects allows me to open up and “speak” honestly without fear.
I am sure that he would prefer to keep his mistakes and his personal life private. But he had a powerful emotional response to matters in his life and let those feelings flow to (presumably) allow his muse to operate fully. And I admire his trust in us to confide this way.
I was reading about how countless species are being pushed toward extinction by man's destruction of forests. Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us. - Calvin, Scientific Progress Goes "Boink", Watterson
by Solanus on Nov 18, 2009 3:55 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
While we're on the subject of personal matters
I’m currently in the process of trying to get an internship with the Cardinals this summer… They’ve been responding to me and it’s generally been pretty positive, telling me they’ll start doing internships at the beginning of the year, etc.
I am well on my way to being the Cardinals GM by the time I’m 24 haha
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
By internships I meant interviews. Obviously.
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Also, I just had sports hernia surgery on Monday
That’s all for my life. I promise.
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
I'm jealous.
I wish I could go back to the beginning of college and start over. This is exactly the kind of thing I would do.
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
Well, I was going through career choices
As an Economics major, and every time, it came back to, “I want to be a baseball GM.” I can think of very few jobs that are more exclusive than being a GM, but I might as well shoot high while I’m 20. If I fail, I can go back and make a shitton of money day-trading or going into I-banking
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Hey good off-topic news!
Ireland is beating France in World Cup qualifying 1-0! If they can eke out one more goal and win 2-0 the Irish get to the World Cup and France stays home!
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please happen!
after zidane’s head butt they deserve it
I'm like a polygon, I'm edgy.
"OHHHHH!!!!!!! IT TASTES. SO. GOOD!!!!!!!!!!"
-BOOOOOOOOG
hahahahahaha
That was easily the best part of the last World Cu.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
They're being outshot 13(7) to 4(3)
Can they hold on long enough to get to PKs?
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by jd is legend on Nov 18, 2009 4:35 PM EST up reply actions
Heading to overtime
1-0 Ireland
1-1 Aggregate
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by jd is legend on Nov 18, 2009 4:54 PM EST up reply actions
Goal France
Second half of OT starting now
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by jd is legend on Nov 18, 2009 5:17 PM EST up reply actions
Stupid Thierry Henry hand ball that wasn't called
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by jd is legend on Nov 18, 2009 6:33 PM EST up reply actions
Let me bring this subthread back to baseball
I’m certain Don Denkinger was an official at that game
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by jd is legend on Nov 18, 2009 8:29 PM EST up reply actions
I for one am happy France will get back to the WC...
Shame it had to happen like this though. Vive les Bleus!
by mattisnotfrench on Nov 19, 2009 2:54 AM EST up reply actions
dear aaron --
i was not kidding about november. this month is the pits.
i am not in any position to give anybody advice, since most of the decisions i make i end up regretting at a later time. all i can say is that if you make enough of them you start to realize that you add up to something bigger than the sum of your mistakes.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
I agree, I hate winter.
Bring on the Seasonal Affective Disorder!
by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Nov 18, 2009 5:31 PM EST up reply actions
Did you steal that quote from TLR?
Free Milton
by all4tookie on Nov 18, 2009 5:40 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
no! did he say that? i may have to go wash my frontal lobes with soap, if so.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
haha Na. I'm just teasing.
But I can imagine a heartfelt Tony tweet to the same effect after letting Thurston bat
Free Milton
is that what tony
told thursty on the way out?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
40 man additions
That makes 34/40 spots filled. Good flexibility left with most ‘coveted’ players
put onto the 40. it appears we learned from Perdomo.
Stupid Sexy Flanders!!!
huzzah! craig = (semi-)freed!
also, own-horn-tooting department – pagnozzi, craig, jay, jones, samuel, norrick, anderson, ottavino, and hamilton all take a spot in this post. with pags getting a bump in september, the other eight are exactly those listed in hummel’s article.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
i am looking forward to seeing what other teams leave off their roster
I would like to get a backup catcher with some potential out of the Rule V draft.
by FlimtotheFlam on Nov 18, 2009 5:39 PM EST up reply actions
ironic about Perdomo
Since Reyes is about to get DFAed
by FlimtotheFlam on Nov 18, 2009 5:37 PM EST up reply actions
So I guess the addition of Bryan Anderson means we won't be re-signing LaRue
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
i don't think it means that
Cause Bryan Anderson wasn’t exactly tearing up the Arizona League the last time I checked. But I don’t LaRue will be back.
by FlimtotheFlam on Nov 18, 2009 8:49 PM EST up reply actions
Does the FO think he's good enough that someone will grab him if not added to the 40-man?
Would he be tradeable to anyone?
My vague recollection is that he was considered a prospect for a while and then just plateaued. I didn’t follow him much.
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
He got to AAA at a very young age and is, indeed, still pretty young
so he’s a prospect for sure. He shows good patience and good contact with a decent lefty swing, but he’s never developed much power, which people assumed would come. I think the general feeling is that contact hitters with limited power in the minors don’t translate to the majors very well – better pitchers figure them out and, with no pop to speak of, they won’t pick up many walks.
He was injured for most of last year, and his defence is considered quite poor. The fact that neither power nor defence have really come on (partially due to the injury) means that he hasn’t really got close to his potential yet and is considered to have fallen by the wayside somewhat. Like a lot of our young guys, looks like 2010 will be a big year for him.
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Nov 19, 2009 6:53 AM EST up reply actions
Way to go, asshole, you made me cry at work
And by that I mean I really enjoyed your story and think it is an apt metaphor for the Holliday situation.
rec’d
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
Hey RB
Can’t imagine how hard it must be to write something like that. Naturally hard for me as a guy to write anything involving love, makes me feel all fuzzy inside.
But to the baseball. Assuming the Cardinals don’t sign Holliday(Moot point if they do), I guess i don’t understand why the Cards would be interested in a guy like Adam Dunn, but not be interested in a guy like Jason Bay. They are both of a similar mold. Good hitters, bad defense cripples their value, etc. I just would assume that Bay would at least have some jump in production if he got away from the AL East, which would ultimately be worth much more than Dunn (Dunn-1.2 WAR last year, Bay-3.5), so Dunn is crippled a lot more by his defense than Bay is.
Unless there is someone in the 2010 FA class that Moz takes an interest in(Fielder :D), I don’t see the logic in going after Dunn other than financial maneuverability.
My halloween costume: the Indiana secondary iPhone- no matter how much you want to love it, you know the coverage area sucks.
-ChronicHoosier
Mmmmm
Fielder isn’t apparently a FA in 2011, but let’s dream that the Astros decline Berkman’s option (He plays LF!)
My halloween costume: the Indiana secondary iPhone- no matter how much you want to love it, you know the coverage area sucks.
-ChronicHoosier
i think Bay is just more overrated than Dunn
by FlimtotheFlam on Nov 18, 2009 6:13 PM EST up reply actions
yawp
I cannot repeal the words of the golden eel
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 18, 2009 9:20 PM EST up reply actions
(after storming out of packed church to empty parking lot)
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by jd is legend on Nov 18, 2009 6:28 PM EST up reply actions
yeah don't worry red. nothing last forever
even cold november rain
pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels
knowing that was the song that inspired the title
I still kept singing Clint Black in my head…
Mizzou 37 - Illinois 9
very good read
It’s nice to get away from the usual, during the douldrums of the off-season its hard to talk about baseball everyday…I like the change of pace and emotion it helps me feel like I know you guys on a more personal level. That might be completley irrelevant in terms of baseball but it def describes my experience here.
ferris wheel endorsement
while in japan I got to ride the Palette Town ferris wheel in Odaiba, which was apparently the world’s tallest when it was built in 1999:

378 feet tall. Instead of piping in music and flashing patterns on the spokes, the spokes spelled out “WIEN” and there was an audio program teaching us about Austria in Japanese. Also, there was a six story, 24 hour arcade next door, because Odaiba is awesome; on the sixth floor I took some swings in a full size (sixty feet across) batting cage against a video of some Yomiuri Giants pitcher.
i've been on the actual ferris wheel from the third man....
so…….ha?
i was never good at one upping
I'm like a polygon, I'm edgy.
"OHHHHH!!!!!!! IT TASTES. SO. GOOD!!!!!!!!!!"
-BOOOOOOOOG
thanks
been trying to think of the name of that movie since i read the post today. the movie was set in berlin, right (it’s been awhile)? where is the ferris wheel?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
it was set in vienna
and the wheel is still there?
i kept thinking vienna because of the hungarian girl, but then i remembered the sectors and thought berlin. i might check the wheel out sometime – lived in budapest and spent some considerable time in vienna here and there – though i don’t particularly care for the city (love budapest).
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I cut the shit out of my hand on a reciprocating saw about an hour and a half ago...
just got back from getting stitches. The whole time, all I could think about was Mike Matheny.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
i would be thinking about that guy in Sicko
That had to choose which finger he wanted to save and which one to lose
by FlimtotheFlam on Nov 18, 2009 7:41 PM EST up reply actions
and you can tell right there which one of us takes life seriously.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
Don't take life too seriously, you'll never get out alive.
by FlimtotheFlam on Nov 18, 2009 7:54 PM EST up reply actions
AMEN!
although it’s probably just a defense mechanism against truly faces life’s roadblocks
I'm like a polygon, I'm edgy.
"OHHHHH!!!!!!! IT TASTES. SO. GOOD!!!!!!!!!!"
-BOOOOOOOOG
I heart Van Wilder
My halloween costume: the Indiana secondary iPhone- no matter how much you want to love it, you know the coverage area sucks.
-ChronicHoosier
I went on a bender and snorted coke off of a couple of hookers
I thought, “At least Josh Hamilton knows how I feel”
…too soon?
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by jd is legend on Nov 18, 2009 7:49 PM EST up reply actions
did it happen again?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
It's a semiannual occurrence
Keeps me level
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by jd is legend on Nov 18, 2009 9:19 PM EST up reply actions
with the floor!
sorry
Go Broncos!!
by from First to Third on Nov 18, 2009 9:45 PM EST up reply actions
I wonder if Joe Strauss knows something we don't:
Cardinals Wrestling with McGwire’s Coming Out
Sorry, couldn’t help it. That headline is funny.
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
FIRST GAY HITTING COACH
BRING BACK MCRAE
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by jd is legend on Nov 18, 2009 9:19 PM EST up reply actions
McRae is gay?
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
he isn't even giddy
dude just lost his job
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
Big Gay Hal?
How’s that plate discipline going, Hal?
Super, thanks for asking!!!
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Nov 19, 2009 12:04 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
he thinks plate discipline's a chichi diet
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
by cardball on Nov 19, 2009 12:36 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I would think a gay hitting coach would just add to the Man Stew in a positive way
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
Rally penis?
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Nov 18, 2009 9:25 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
to stir the stew
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
probably about the first time i have actually lol'd at a VEB post
probably the level of my maturity, right there…
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Nov 19, 2009 6:57 AM EST up reply actions
Well, if it tells you anything about me
I can’t say the word “boner” aloud without cracking a smile or laughing
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by jd is legend on Nov 19, 2009 9:39 AM EST up reply actions
yup
me too. It’s just inherently funny
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Nov 19, 2009 10:56 AM EST up reply actions
red, this was awesome, heartbreaking, and hits so freaking close to home for me
you really have no idea
girls named Alex should be outlawed. they will destroy your soul without even trying & laugh at the burnt charred ashes that are left before the wind takes them away. i may or may not be getting yet another second chance out here with the one that got away. that’s yet to be determined, and i very well may not want that chance if it’s even there. there’s only so many times you can be crushed before you just can’t take it anymore.
and that brings me to Lego. the Cards made their bed with him, and now it’s time to jump in or be pushed out. and if many of you still can’t see the connection, then you just can’t be helped.
thanks for this red. you are at your best when you open up & let us in. thank you for letting us get a peek.
pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels
by gdm426 on Nov 18, 2009 8:53 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
Please tell me the girl on the phone isn't back.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
I agree gdm,
I read this earlier today and haven’t commented, but I find it amusing that the majority of the people who had a problem with the post, don’t really comment on much else on here.
"Everyone in here comes to the yard ready to play every day. I’ll take this group, any day until the day I die."
"This whole Cardinals thing.....I don’t know if you guys are a believer, but I’m a believer."
~ Ryan F. Ludwick
the worst are girls that are hooked up
and then use you as their whine-to buddy, while being flirty. you end up hearing so much shit about their “honey” that you feel sorry for them and ask them out. and then all hell breaks loose.
I cannot repeal the words of the golden eel
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 18, 2009 9:29 PM EST up reply actions
Yep
100% agree
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by jd is legend on Nov 18, 2009 9:34 PM EST up reply actions
i had a girl that broke up with her bf than came over to my house right after
Than surprised when I made a move.
by FlimtotheFlam on Nov 18, 2009 9:35 PM EST up reply actions
that's why I have a non-clothing policy on the door for unrelated women
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
so do i
but so far, no women want to come down into the basement
pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels
by gdm426 on Nov 18, 2009 9:47 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
lmao
thank you, you have made my day better, jury duty can’t get any more boring and you have lightened up my day. A rec for you sir
Go Broncos!!
by from First to Third on Nov 18, 2009 9:53 PM EST up reply actions
God I hated my first jury duty
Two days of my life completely wasted, in the most boring way possible. I wasn’t even selected.
Basically, if you seem like a halfway intelligent and articulate person, or if you are friends with a cop, you won’t be selected.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
I am very glad that never happened to me.
It’s very hard to deal with girls that are upset without wanting to hug them or something.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
I gotta say Red
I don’t think I would be able to survive at this point in my life if my wife died. I wish I could offer up some kind of meaningful advise, but nothing I have experienced has really came close. So I got nothing there. And you seem like you are doing a much better job than I would have anyway.
However; after spending the last 3 weeks digging a 5 foot deep trench 70 foot long, applying layers of tar, and installing a french drain with 8 tons of gravel; I for one am grateful for the November rain. Because now I know for sure that I will no longer have rivers running through my basement on heavy rains. And I can finally build that office.
I enjoy reading your work. Keep it up.
by Evilfrog on Nov 18, 2009 9:41 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
that's not very evil
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
???
I think someone hacked my computer and posted that. Not only is there all that mushy BS in there; why would a frog try to keep water OUT of his office where he will be planning all his evil deeds???
Souls will be devoured for this.
by Evilfrog on Nov 18, 2009 9:59 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
THAT sounds like the frog we know. now, gleefully predict that mark mulder and braden looper
will fill the 4th and 5th slots in the rotation and we’re all set.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
So i havent been on here since noon
Has Alex or the Fiancee’ made an appearance?
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
interesting story on that.
Alex has never set up an account, as she’s only a casual baseball fan. She just thinks it’s funny I write the things I write.
Dave, on the other hand (that is her betrothed), has read exactly one thing I’ve ever written. Alex thought this particular piece was so amusing she had to have him read it. He checked it out, and his reaction was confusion, followed by mild disgust.
The piece in question was, in fact, my toaster dick article. He’s never bothered to check out another of my literary forays.
Here comes the funcooker!
by the red baron on Nov 19, 2009 10:00 AM EST up reply actions
He checked it out, and his reaction was confusion, followed by mild disgust.
followed by intrigue, followed by… experimentation?
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Nov 19, 2009 10:57 AM EST up reply actions
Sadly, no.
I feel relatively confident I would have a decided edge had that been the case.
Here comes the funcooker!
by the red baron on Nov 19, 2009 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
OTL
This Jack Dempsey HW title of the world boxing video has completely ruined for me every athletic competition before at least 1940. That’s uglier and has less athleticism than most street fights.
Not afraid to nitpick
Jack Dempsey revolutionized boxing
With the Dempsey Roll. He was the first player to actively bob and weave in boxing matches. Utilizing speed with power.
by FlimtotheFlam on Nov 18, 2009 10:40 PM EST up reply actions
I'm aware of Dempsey's historical signifcance
But judging from that, he’d last about 3 seconds with a modern 135 pounder—-assuming Dempsey backed into the corner so it took the modern guy a little bit longer to get to him. I’m just boggled that that’s where athletics stood in the 1920s. I officially call bullshit on say Babe Ruth hitting 500 foot shots or any other claim of athleticism in the era.
Not afraid to nitpick
every sport evolves, joker
look at track and field records, or set shots in basketball. in 75 yrs. today’s guys may be looked at similarly, especially if the robots take over, but they are still athletic for their time
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I know I know
I’m not even surprised by it, but just the obvious lack of athleticism relative to today is just ultimately apparent right there and makes a joke of all the claims of super human feats from the era.
Not afraid to nitpick
Yeah, I'm all for appreciating the past
but I hate when people talk about past athlete as if they are supermen who cannot be touched by anyone living today.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
That dude looks like Ank
And, in a related story, this week marked the 5,000th performance of the Broadway musical "Cats." It also marked the 5,000th time a guy turned to his wife and said, "What the hell is this?"
by jd is legend on Nov 18, 2009 10:42 PM EST up reply actions
I don't
I feel sorry for no man who has the love of an awesome woman, and this Alex seems awesome. If anything, I feel sorry for Alex, cuz we all know the red baron IS awesome.
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Nov 18, 2009 11:01 PM EST up reply actions
I disagree.
You all think I’m awesome because I give you stuff to argue about endlessly on the internet. I’m not nearly so much fun in real life.
Here comes the funcooker!
by the red baron on Nov 19, 2009 10:01 AM EST up reply actions
Thanks for the post RB
I knew we had the loss of our loved ones in common, I didn’t know they had the same name. Brought chills.
I had just read Monday’s post and the sub-thread towards the end about dreams. It brought back old memories of … I don’t know what to call them but premonitions through oddly occurring daydreams. Then I read this. Yep, gray November days really are bitches, aren’t they.
I'm speaking for andi_k as well
but y’all should be super excited for our Hot Baseball Players All Star team. It’s going to be awesome.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Don't hype it too much in case we can't deliver!
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
By "we" I meant "I"
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
I tried not to say too much.
But it will awesome no matter what we do. If only because instead of doing homework I looked up pictures of hot baseball players. Best research project ever.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 18, 2009 11:03 PM EST up reply actions
with your taste in men
I fully expect WIllie McGee to make the list
by FlimtotheFlam on Nov 18, 2009 11:05 PM EST up reply actions
No, no, our merit system is totally superficial.
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
You'll just have to wait and see.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 18, 2009 11:09 PM EST up reply actions
"Yeah, he's kinda goofy looking, like he looks kind of like a monster or something, but I think he's cute."
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Oh come on.
Colby doesn’t look like a monster.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 19, 2009 12:45 AM EST up reply actions
I never said I thought he was cute.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 19, 2009 12:47 AM EST up reply actions
WTF?
I’m his fucking twin….have you thought about how this sub-thread makes me feel?
by Willie McGee's Twin on Nov 19, 2009 4:13 PM EST up reply actions
He played home games, I played road games
no one ever knew (until now).
by Willie McGee's Twin on Nov 19, 2009 4:21 PM EST up reply actions
And Willie, as much as I love him... kinda looks like a monster or something.

But it’s the nice kind of monster that becomes your friend and helps you out by winning the 1985 MVP award.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
To be fair to poor Willie
that appears to be a rather bad picture.
I realized I just typed in my idea of a British accent. I’m reading a book set in England. I bet that’s it.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Hmm
Instead of studying for a test I’m playing Halo
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by jd is legend on Nov 18, 2009 11:06 PM EST up reply actions
i remember at my old job
I figured out to hack the network and we all played Halo against each other.
by FlimtotheFlam on Nov 18, 2009 11:08 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah but I'm sure you guys were good
I suck at Halo. Like, worst player I know.
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by jd is legend on Nov 18, 2009 11:09 PM EST up reply actions
But then I don't hit anyone!
I can’t aim for shit, and I always inadvertently zoom when trying to aim because I press it too hard.
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by jd is legend on Nov 19, 2009 8:49 PM EST up reply actions
Instead of writing the three paragraph statement of goals that is the only thing standing between me and my official return to graduate school,
I’m commenting off-topic on a blog
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
*ugh* "three-paragraph"
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
I find applying for grad school to be irrationally stressful
It makes it hard to work up the moxie to get stuff done. I hate that.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
That's the point; they want to scare off the casual applicant.
“Please jump through all these hoops so we know you’re not just bored and fucking around.”
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
Instead of studying for a test
I’m looking up boxing videos. Holy shit was Roy Jones Jr talented.
Not afraid to nitpick
He probably peed blood that night
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by jd is legend on Nov 18, 2009 11:31 PM EST up reply actions
Gotta wonder what he could have done had he not tried to jump to heavyweight
Was never the same after Ruiz.
Not afraid to nitpick
Instead of studying for my test or going to bed early.
I am on here and playing Dress Up Games.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 18, 2009 11:12 PM EST up reply actions
instead of getting on with my life, i'm goofing off per usual&wondering why nothing ever changes
move on already dumbass!
f’in gdm
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I can relate to this
You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the goddamn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all.
-- Earl Weaver
by Smokin Turkeys on Nov 18, 2009 11:32 PM EST up reply actions
what a mass fucking cathartic day
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
We call it team building
You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the goddamn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all.
-- Earl Weaver
by Smokin Turkeys on Nov 18, 2009 11:57 PM EST up reply actions
gotta reinvent the wheel every once in a while
I cannot repeal the words of the golden eel
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 19, 2009 12:00 AM EST up reply actions
we got chemistry?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
LF - Ryan Braun?

Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Nov 19, 2009 7:01 AM EST up reply actions
Great post
Sharing personal experience in public, especially a bitter one, requires an awful lot of courage. Thank you for the excellent post, RB.
You’re always a good writer, however, in my humble opinion, you’re at the top of your game when you start with your personal experience then dive into baseball topics. Every Thursday morning(due to time difference, ‘cause I’m in Korea) I expect to read some nice stuff here, and you delievered again. Keep the great works…!!
Cardinals fan from Korea
it's a nice one two punch
I cannot repeal the words of the golden eel
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 19, 2009 12:07 AM EST up reply actions
well, actually
I don’t read a Korean Cardinal Blog. I’m running it.
If you want to see it, click here. (There is no English material there, though)
Cardinals fan from Korea
by FreeRedbird on Nov 19, 2009 12:40 AM EST up reply actions
Did you know your blog was mentioned on Beyond the Boxscore?
That is how I found it.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
It's hard to believe
that my Korean-only blog is mentioned on on BtB. Can’t wait to go and find the comment!!!!!!!!!!
Cardinals fan from Korea
by FreeRedbird on Nov 19, 2009 12:51 AM EST up reply actions
It was about how awesome Albert Pujols is
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
The most surprising thing was
all the bad plate approach they had in this season notwithstanding, they were really good at avoiding strike outs. kinda shocked.
My tiny blog is being mentioned on VEB… I’m extremely happy now. Thank you guys…!!!
Cardinals fan from Korea
welcome!
I have a Cardinal fan friend who is in Korea now, he’s one of my oldest friends! also, one of my friends in chicago just got married in Korea
I cannot repeal the words of the golden eel
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 19, 2009 1:25 AM EST up reply actions
It's a good blog!
I hope you keep writing.
By the way, how did you become a Cardinals fan?
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
I don't have a rational reason, frankly speaking
because the mighty Fernando Tatis hit 2 grand slams in the same inning over Chan Ho Park, a national hero in Korea back then, maybe?
I really don’t know. Someday I found I’d already hooked on the Cardinals. That’s all. I’ve been following the team since around 2000.
Cardinals fan from Korea
Question:
Do you like Shin Soo Choo? Because I love him. I don’t really know how popular he is in Korea. They have some stories about his popularity in Korea but I was just asking you because you may have more first hand experience than sports journalists from Cleveland, Ohio.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
he is a great player
I cannot repeal the words of the golden eel
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 19, 2009 1:26 AM EST up reply actions
I personally like Sacagawea
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by jd is legend on Nov 19, 2009 1:32 AM EST up reply actions
It's not my fault their name is culturally insensitive!
It was done with good intentions.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
At least they aren't the Washington Redskins
Most racist name in sports
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by jd is legend on Nov 19, 2009 1:42 AM EST up reply actions
that name arose b/c their jerseys were all black, iirc.
Had no racial overtones.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Nov 19, 2009 3:24 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Idaho Vandals
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Pekin
a bastardization of Peking?
what are they now, the Dragons…Pandas?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Dragons, yes.
But they’re not to be out done by their sister city acros the Illinois River, the Canton Fighting People Who Can’t Say the Letter L.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
crispy ducks?
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Nov 19, 2009 10:59 AM EST up reply actions
But at least they changed it
Although, yes that’s a terrible one.
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by jd is legend on Nov 19, 2009 9:40 AM EST up reply actions
He is very popular here
We love him, too. After Hee Seop Choi failed to reach his potential and went back to Korea, he is the only Korean position player in MLB now.
However, we are very worried about his military duty problem.
Cardinals fan from Korea
I'm not.
I don’t know why. I just feel like it’s going to work out some way or another. Unfortunately right now it looks like that may mean moving to America permanently. And I think that’s a shame because he always says how much he loves Korea.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
If he moves to America permanently
it doesn’t only mean a change of citizenship. In that case, there is a very good chance that he would be banned to visit Korea for a long time. It’d make many people here mad as hell. I think it’s not easy for you to understand that, however, national duties like military service are considered utterly important here. Many people would think he abandoned(someone would even say “betrayed”) his mother country to chase his selfish dream. I really, really don’t like this, but this is the way it goes in Korea.
Cardinals fan from Korea
I get it.
I totally get it. And it would make me very sad if that happened. I just feel like that’s the way things look like they’re going. I just wish they could work it out some other way. But government stuff is so complicated. It’s a bad situation.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Also
there is a big part of me that thinks his military duty is something he really needs to do. It’s selfish of me to get mad at the government of another country for taking away one of my favorite players for something that they established for their country. It’s selfish to want him to not do his duty to his service because I don’t want to miss his prime playing years. Whatever he decides I’ll still love him and keep his picture and bobblehead on display in my room. Unless he chooses to play for the Yankees. That’s where I draw the line.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Changing his/her citizenship
is a pretty tough thing itself. I just hope we Koreans could understand he would be already having a hard time if he chooses to move to America permanently.
Cardinals fan from Korea
make choi fulfill the obligation for him
that bastard
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Ya, not a lot of love lost for He Sop
in Cardinal land.
"Everyone in here comes to the yard ready to play every day. I’ll take this group, any day until the day I die."
"This whole Cardinals thing.....I don’t know if you guys are a believer, but I’m a believer."
~ Ryan F. Ludwick
he needs to go shoot himself in the foot and see how it makes him feel!
jd is legend for Cardinals' closer 2010!!
by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 19, 2009 2:03 AM EST up reply actions
He's doing well here
He went .308/.435/.589 in this year and his team won the championship in the Korean league.
Cardinals fan from Korea
MLB JV
jd is legend for Cardinals' closer 2010!!
by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 19, 2009 2:05 AM EST up reply actions
Dude.
Just noticed your avatar is a Panda. You may be my new best internet friend.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Have you seen the baby Panda bear sneeze?
It’s probably one of my favorite things.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
true
I cannot repeal the words of the golden eel
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 19, 2009 8:14 PM EST up reply actions
well ladefreakinda
he killed Scotty Ro’s career, and thus brought upon the Cardinals the curse of Scott Rolen.
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yeah FreeRedbird
and then he fled to asylum in korea before he could be held accountable. maybe we can break this curse with your help. are you willing to help the Cardinals?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
okay
Please tell me what I have to do to break the curse. I want to help the team!!!
Cardinals fan from Korea
are you willing to sacrifice
for the team?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
hmm
I can do anything to help the team. Just give me an order.
w… wait, I’m going to become a father next January. I want to see my baby…
Cardinals fan from Korea
babies are overrated
There is only one STL Cardinals. And there is one too many Choi in Korea.
(do you understand your mission, comrade?)
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
It wasn't Hee Seop Choi's fault!
It was Scott Erickson’s inability to throw the ball 15 feet accurately!
Not afraid to nitpick
Will you punch Hee Seop Choi in the throat for me?
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
sometimes i forget there are more people here than just the ones who post
it’s an odd spot to be in when you’re reminded that fact. very odd indeed
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This sounds interesting
"Everyone in here comes to the yard ready to play every day. I’ll take this group, any day until the day I die."
"This whole Cardinals thing.....I don’t know if you guys are a believer, but I’m a believer."
~ Ryan F. Ludwick
my cousin sent me an email about what i said earlier
now i’m a little embarrassed because he knows everything
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Creepy.
About your post about the phone girl?
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 19, 2009 12:47 AM EST up reply actions
For the record,
I am too. But I know nothing about her except for what you’ve told us so I don’t know how solid my judgment could possibly be.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 19, 2009 12:52 AM EST up reply actions
A buddy of mine from Auburn asked about my SB Nation account this past weekend
He’s seen some of my stuff over at Auburn’s SB Nation blog. That was weird.
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by jd is legend on Nov 19, 2009 12:51 AM EST up reply actions
i try to use different alias for each online account
too much has been reveled between my veb and reddit account. could be a problem in the future.
by FlimtotheFlam on Nov 19, 2009 12:54 AM EST up reply actions
it is weird
the whole time I was writing at my blog it was for people who I couldn’t see and who basically didn’t communicate with me. It’s a strange (but not unpleasant) experience to be writing for two groups with different expectations.
and now you've met some of us
wat
I cannot repeal the words of the golden eel
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 19, 2009 12:28 AM EST up reply actions
never considered this
pretty interesting phenomenon
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
forgive me, OT
corruption perceptions index: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_Perceptions_Index
good to see we’re in the middle, I would have it no other way
I cannot repeal the words of the golden eel
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 19, 2009 12:31 AM EST reply actions
Thanks, RB.
I always appreciate your writing, whether the focus is personal or strictly baseball. Sadly, you can’t please all the people all the time.
I’m not one for religion, but I like the Buddhist premise that life is suffering. It’s a reminder to me that no matter what, there are parts of me that will never be satisfied because I am human. I cannot possibly get my way all the time, and sometimes, things are so much worse than not getting my way. But so it is for everyone at some point.
Some people don’t like to be reminded of this. They want everything compartmentalized.
I’m okay with looking at the big, messy picture. Puts it all in perspective.
Now with extra feisty!
by spants on Nov 19, 2009 12:47 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Just saw
this in Google Reader.

Now with extra feisty!
by spants on Nov 19, 2009 1:10 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Reminds me of something a jazz instructor in college told me
Jazz is the best music because it’s the most life-like. Other kinds of music stick mainly to major chords, which suggest everything is hunky-dory, and minor chords, which suggest that something is the pits. Jazz chords tend to be a mixture. A C7 chord, for instance, is a regular major chord with a minor 7th on top of it. That relates that life is good, with a little bad. Or, on the other hand, a Cm7 chord is a regular minor chord with a minor 7th on top of it. The top three notes also come out to a major chord, so it relates that life is bad, with a little good. My personal favorite chord, though, is the major 7th chord. It’s a major chord with a major 7th on top of it. It literally is so close to perfect, and it sounds that way to me. Sometimes life is so close to perfect, but there’s something or another amiss.
I know, I know, y’all were told there would be no music theory.
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by jd is legend on Nov 19, 2009 1:26 AM EST up reply actions
7ths & 9ths
If it is good enuf for John Lee Hooker, then its good enuf for me.
by Macarver hater on Nov 19, 2009 3:02 AM EST up reply actions
thanks for saying this. i tried
To write up something related but wasn’t happy with how it came out. You said it much better.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Nov 19, 2009 3:11 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Adam Wainwright doesn’t care about no stinkin’ gold glove
I'm like a polygon, I'm edgy.
"OHHHHH!!!!!!! IT TASTES. SO. GOOD!!!!!!!!!!"
-BOOOOOOOOG
Awwww, what a cute picture of little Adam Wainwright
before he became A.D.A.M.
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
before i forget it, gdm's playlist o the night
Athlete – Black Swan Song
Placebo – Running Up That Hill
Emilana Torrini – Gun
Great Northern – Houses
DeVotchka – How It Ends
James Blunt – Same Mistake
Ray Lamontagne – Lesson Learned
Sanders Bohlke – The Weight Of Us
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that placebo song - kate bush cover?
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Nov 19, 2009 2:01 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Ooh, some Emiliana Torrini. Nice!
She contributed a song to the Pumpkin soundtrack I absolutely adore but have never come across.
That Placebo cover is wicked good too, and thumbs up on the DeVotchka.
You lose points for the James Blunt, though. Sorry.
Here comes the funcooker!
by the red baron on Nov 19, 2009 10:08 AM EST up reply actions
i came across emiliana via an youtube video for a BMW M3 and i've been hooked ever since
i get your reaction the Blunt song. but if you actually listen to it, you’d realize it’s just about dead solid perfect considering the topics of conservation. i loathe him as much as much as the next guy, but i gotta give it to him for Same Mistake. he really hit one outta the park with that tune.
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Ray Lamontagne
Huge fan. Haven’t gotten around to getting bootlegged copies or obsessing about his stuff, but really enjoy listening to his music. Love singing his songs, as well.
DeVotchKa plays on radioparadise.com quite often, got to hear “Viens Avec Moi” last night, awesome accordion-led piece. Try out Sixteen Horsepower for similar stuff.
James Blunt got overexposed and his style is a bit overwrought, but he’s solid. I can mimic different singers and he’s kind of fun to impersonate.
I was reading about how countless species are being pushed toward extinction by man's destruction of forests. Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us. - Calvin, Scientific Progress Goes "Boink", Watterson
I've been listening to The Flying Luttenbachers much of the day today
also a lot of Luke Vibert and DJ Krush
I cannot repeal the words of the golden eel
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 19, 2009 1:29 AM EST reply actions
oh yeah
baseball friggin kicks ass btw
I cannot repeal the words of the golden eel
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 19, 2009 1:29 AM EST up reply actions
Luke Vibert hasn't done a really good record since Wagon Christ's "Tally Ho!"
There. I said it.
Here comes the funcooker!
by the red baron on Nov 19, 2009 10:09 AM EST up reply actions
I liked the early stuff under his own name
the later stuff isn’t quite as a good but there’s a few good tracks in there. I’ll check out that Wagon Christ album
I cannot repeal the words of the golden eel
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 19, 2009 8:15 PM EST up reply actions
"Lovely"
is probably the best thing he’s ever done, in my ever so humble opinion.
Here comes the funcooker!
by the red baron on Nov 20, 2009 2:51 AM EST up reply actions
um, wow
came onto this blog this evening expecting baseball post to quickly read and go to sleep. instead, forgot it was wednesday, got extra excited because wednesday is RB day, got extra extra excited when he mentioned WG (where did you get that ticket, RB?), and ended up almost in tears after reading the post. i couldn’t even stomach reading the baseball part of it after reading the first part.
well done.
jd is legend for Cardinals' closer 2010!!
by stlcardinalsfang on Nov 19, 2009 1:53 AM EST reply actions
without a doubt
“It’s honest, and that has to be worth something.”
I cannot repeal the words of the golden eel
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 19, 2009 2:00 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Tbh that was much better than another rehashing of the Matt Holliday saga
Thanks for sharing, I think everyone has a story somewhat like that, and a girl like that. Mine was Erin
Boras drops the C word, says the Cards are pocketing $200 Million per year in revenues
if this is true, HFS! the part about the Cards & a quote from DeWitt is towards the end
pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels
200 mil seems legit.
ave price a ticket is 29.43. attendance well over 3 mil generates around 100 mil-ish. MLB.com sharing is 30mil. We’re at 130 and not counting concessions, playoff revenue, and radio/tv contracts. May not be 200 mil but it’s probably close enough to not be crying poor.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
OPEN DEWALLET
And, in a related story, this week marked the 5,000th performance of the Broadway musical "Cats." It also marked the 5,000th time a guy turned to his wife and said, "What the hell is this?"
by jd is legend on Nov 19, 2009 9:42 AM EST up reply actions
yeah, but who cares what the revenues are....
show me the P/L and the net assets.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Nov 19, 2009 4:17 PM EST up reply actions
the money shot:
“Alex moved on and found someone dependable and solid and not at all like me who makes her happy.”
If that is truly the case this will end up epically bad.
“Her fiance knows how I feel and he doesn’t care. He trusts both of us.”
He’s either delusional, acting, or doesn’t see you as a legit threat. People think jealousy is such a inappropriate or wrong emotion when in reality it is a very important emotion that is an alert system to “mate poaching”.
He may not see you as a legit threat because he views you the same way you view him…a reliable, always there, safe, secure, validation machine. I personally don’t know either way, just throwing out possibilities.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
and might I add:
“never make someone your priority when you’re only their option”.
Tough to do but looks great on paper.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
Thank you RB
So I’m literally a day late and at this point in my life always a dollar short, but figuratively here – because my brain is too fried this week to come up with anything more interesting to say other than “thank you.”

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