Rookies of the Following Year
by DanUpBaby on Nov 17, 2009 6:00 AM EST
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Well, I can't really blame the BBWAA for picking Chris Coghlan, the lone standout hitter in a year filled with pitchers who were excellent for half of a season. Among players whose names we at VEB habitually remember he might have been the most underrated of the SBN picks. McCutchen probably had the better year, but much of our evidence to that effect is locked up in Coghlan's awful UZR (and, to be fair, +/-.)
He'd never played left before 2009—he was blocked at second by Dan Uggla, which says something about either Coghlan's infield defense or Florida's decision-making process—so it's plausible that he was really ten runs worse than the average left fielder, but it's hard for me to imagine a young corner outfielder who doesn't hate baseball doing that much damage. Uggla's probably done in Florida, so we might never know just how terrible Chris Coghlan was. But in the infield that .390 OBP will make up for a lot of it.
But he and the AL choice, Andrew Bailey, illustrate this year's BBWAA thought process pretty well. Both leagues were stocked with good candidates who were, superficially, pretty similar, and difficult to distinguish, let alone rank. In the National League there was a run on pitchers who threw about half a season's worth of games with lovely ERAs; in the AL stood Elvis Andrus and Rick Porcello, wunderkinds who put together competent but rarely spectacular seasons at young ages. To deal with the matter of separating these tightly matched competitors, the AL went with something completely different. Neither pick is bad, but they're both... a little weird.
Who is the Cardinals' rookie of 2010? When in doubt, I usually cop out and say "a relief pitcher"; nobody takes a job as a regular without game-changing injuries or a four-year Rasmus-Watch ordeal, and the surprise starting pitchers usually take a while to worm themselves into things, J.A. Happ style, but Mike Crudale, Kyle McClellan and company can strike without warning and earn a high-leverage job by June. A position player coming off a terrible year in the minors probably needs to right himself for a full season before he sees significant playing time, but Francisco Samuel is always ten good innings away from having Turned a Corner.
If it weren't for David Freese, 2010 would be a great year for the Some Reliever Gambit; not only is the Cardinals' relief corps worrying at best, there's no one candidate ready to step into a major role. Last year we had Motte, and the year before Perez; this year there's Eduardo Sanchez? Fernando Salas? Casey Mulligan?
So my question, with Freese the current favorite for 2010, is this: Who'll be the Cardinals Rookie of the Year in 2011? Sanchez is probably a good pick, but with the Cardinals seemingly prepared to go short-term for the rotation in 2010, my choice—boring, in fitting with this player's skill-set—is Lance Lynn.
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Eat it, Monk.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Nov 17, 2009 6:54 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Eat what? Your Fist?
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"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop
by OKCardsfan on Nov 17, 2009 7:14 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
FAIL
And, in a related story, this week marked the 5,000th performance of the Broadway musical "Cats." It also marked the 5,000th time a guy turned to his wife and said, "What the hell is this?"
by jd is legend on Nov 17, 2009 10:34 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My favorite part about that fight
Is that Shields throws a punch exactly how he throws a pitch. Follow through and everything….check out those front side mechanics!
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Nov 17, 2009 3:01 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I love this place.
Now with extra feisty!
by spants on Nov 17, 2009 7:02 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i've seen better. Sincerely, Roger Goodell
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by gdm426 on Nov 17, 2009 7:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
goodell was in the box
with titans owner when he flipped those birds
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
by cardball on Nov 17, 2009 7:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
he was in there earlier in the game
is what ESPN is saying. Not when the bird was flipped multiple times.
by stlfan on Nov 17, 2009 10:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
damn
not so funny now. i was picturing goodell’s face, yet as the guest being polite and smiling uncomfortably, but as soon as he got into his limo drafting the letter for the fine – heard it was a quarter mil.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
by cardball on Nov 17, 2009 11:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
FLAGGED!!!!
/Raiders fan
And, in a related story, this week marked the 5,000th performance of the Broadway musical "Cats." It also marked the 5,000th time a guy turned to his wife and said, "What the hell is this?"
by jd is legend on Nov 17, 2009 8:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
not a raider fan
but vividly remember watching that game live and feeling the raiders got hosed – had never heard of a tuck rule, was like “you freakin’ kidding me!”
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
by cardball on Nov 17, 2009 8:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I still don't understand why people complain.
It was the right call according to the rule. The Raiders did not get cheated.
(Insert Your Own Joke)
by AWolfAtTheDoor on Nov 17, 2009 8:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
didn't say they did
since i had never heard of that rule, it seemed at the time like something arcane they pulled out of their asses. had you ever heard of the tuck rule before that play?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
by cardball on Nov 17, 2009 8:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Fair enough
I felt like they got hosed as I was watching, but sorry Raiders fans. They did not. Rules are rules.
(Insert Your Own Joke)
by AWolfAtTheDoor on Nov 17, 2009 10:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
A dumb rule
And, in a related story, this week marked the 5,000th performance of the Broadway musical "Cats." It also marked the 5,000th time a guy turned to his wife and said, "What the hell is this?"
by jd is legend on Nov 17, 2009 11:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i should probably be banned for posting a pic of those cheaters anyway
the raiders got hosed. f’in tuck my pale while ass
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by gdm426 on Nov 17, 2009 9:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
CURSE YOOOOOUUUU!!!!
<shakes FIST!>
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by Felonius_Monk on Nov 17, 2009 8:16 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Regarding 2011
I can’t see Sanchez having much action in the majors this year, so I’ll go for him. Barring some injury issues, I dunno if Lynn will see much action in 2011. Waino, Carp, Lohse, Boggs, Garcia and Hawksworth (and perhaps Walters) are all ahead of him on the depth chart, he’s got to show he can get out AAA hitters first, and I could see us signing another short-term veteran in 2011 to shore up the rotation.
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by Felonius_Monk on Nov 17, 2009 8:18 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
JAIME GARCIA
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 17, 2009 8:32 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
2010, not 2011.
I see Senor G as the #4 starter by the end of the coming year. He’s the likely CRotY for 2010 and will almost certainly not be eligible in 2011, which is what was asked.
I’d say Lynn, with a reasonable chance that it’s somebody we don’t know about yet.
by StanTheManFan on Nov 17, 2009 9:15 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
wasn't replying to Dan
replying to the Monk. Garcia has already had his cup of coffee.
How soon we forget.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 17, 2009 10:00 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Stan Musial Day
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Nov 17, 2009 10:00 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
"I see groundballs"
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by Felonius_Monk on Nov 17, 2009 10:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
"Walker told me I have AIDS"
And, in a related story, this week marked the 5,000th performance of the Broadway musical "Cats." It also marked the 5,000th time a guy turned to his wife and said, "What the hell is this?"
by jd is legend on Nov 17, 2009 10:35 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Was he up long enough not to be considered a rookie in 2010?
I don’t know rules on that subject. Is half a season too long? Does his year on the DL count (he wasn’t on the 40-man in 2009, right?)
I vaguely recall he came up just before the 2008 All-Star break because he was supposed to pitch in the Futures Game but then couldn’t because he was a newly minted major-leaguer.
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
by andi_k on Nov 17, 2009 12:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm pretty sure he's still a rookie next year
I think he didn’t make more than a single start, just a few innings from the pen.
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by Felonius_Monk on Nov 17, 2009 1:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I had to look it up
If I’m reading BR correctly, he made his debut July 11 pitching in relief, made one start July 20th, then pitched nine more innings in relief before he got either sent back down or DLed sometime after August 26. I don’t remember which.
So I think (hope) you are right in thinking he will be considered a rookie in 2010.
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
by andi_k on Nov 17, 2009 1:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i think
it’s130 ABs or 50 IP
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Nov 17, 2009 1:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Cool, because he (Garcia) only pitched 16.
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
by andi_k on Nov 17, 2009 1:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
oh and
45 days on 25-man roster (not including dl time, obviously)
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Nov 17, 2009 1:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i stand corrected then
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 17, 2009 2:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
huh?
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Nov 17, 2009 4:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yay, this means he can still be ROTY 2010
which was the whole point of my investigation.
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
by andi_k on Nov 17, 2009 6:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
also, TOTAL fail on my part not to read the last paragraph of the post, or all the comments alluding to the fact that the question was really
“Who is your favorite for ROTY 2011.”
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
by andi_k on Nov 17, 2009 6:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
there's always Casey Mulligan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEh6TcmlQes
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 17, 2009 8:32 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I love this video so much.
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
by andi_k on Nov 17, 2009 12:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's full of win.
"Everyone in here comes to the yard ready to play every day. I’ll take this group, any day until the day I die."
"This whole Cardinals thing.....I don’t know if you guys are a believer, but I’m a believer."
~ Ryan F. Ludwick
by RiverRat on Nov 17, 2009 12:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This guy
who was named after a large sea mammal with tusks whos name escapes me right now…if I think of it I’ll let you know…in the meantime I am going to have to go with my homer pick…Pete Kozma.
"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop
by OKCardsfan on Nov 17, 2009 9:33 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Tony Dugong?
I don’t think his walkrate will translate to MLB, to be honest.
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by Felonius_Monk on Nov 17, 2009 10:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think he's referring to Adam Hippovino. Technically not a "sea mammal" but hippos are water mammals.
I didn’t even know that dugongs had tusks.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Nov 17, 2009 10:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The dugong has two incisors (tusks) which grow posteriorly until puberty, after which they first erupt in males. The female’s tusks continue to grow posteriorly, sometimes erupting later in life after reaching the base of the premaxilla.
Sirenian knowledge ftw.
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by Felonius_Monk on Nov 17, 2009 10:51 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I had to wikipedia it when I first saw your comment.
Also, hippo tusks are made of ivory, which I did not know.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Nov 17, 2009 10:59 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hippos are very, very dangerous creatures.
The most dangerous in Africa. They can run at speeds in excess of 30 mph on land. I’d never want to encounter an angry one with no trees to climb as an escape route.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Nov 17, 2009 11:01 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE HUNGRY, HUNGRY
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Nov 17, 2009 11:12 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
SORRY FOR YELLING.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Nov 17, 2009 11:12 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And you're a spheroid
nearly as dangerous as Albert Pujols in that instance, in fact.
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Nov 17, 2009 11:58 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hippos are devious
They are so goofy looking but they will destroy you.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Nov 17, 2009 11:13 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Fortunately...
….they see about as well as a LCS umpire…
:=8/
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
by The MooCow on Nov 17, 2009 11:41 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm gonna plump for the anopheles mosquito as the most dangerou in Africa, personally.
/pedantry
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by Felonius_Monk on Nov 17, 2009 11:57 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hippo bites can be quuite nasti.
"Everyone in here comes to the yard ready to play every day. I’ll take this group, any day until the day I die."
"This whole Cardinals thing.....I don’t know if you guys are a believer, but I’m a believer."
~ Ryan F. Ludwick
by RiverRat on Nov 17, 2009 12:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If a Hippo bit mi sister...
She would probaabli be ded.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Nov 17, 2009 12:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Homer Pick
Kozma’s been my homer pick since I watched him play at Owasso.
by WizardofOz1982 on Nov 19, 2009 3:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Daryl Jones
replaces Ludwick in 2011 in RF.
/bad guesses won’t come back to haunt me, will they?
Stupid Sexy Flanders!!!
by timmycardinals on Nov 17, 2009 9:59 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
just the GOB
you’re good. unless you needed those nuts?
/joking.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 17, 2009 10:01 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the GOB's never joke about nuts
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by gdm426 on Nov 17, 2009 2:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My pessimistic guess
Darryl Jones will never be a full-time player in MLB.
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by Felonius_Monk on Nov 17, 2009 10:20 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I fear this is true as well.
Please consider any Hot Stove talk in the above comment is spoken under the assumption that the Cardinals are not signing Matt Holliday.
by fourstick on Nov 17, 2009 11:05 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I fear this, as well,
but am very much on the fence about DJ. His 2010 is shaping up to be a “make or break” season for the 5-tool outfielder.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Nov 17, 2009 11:13 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not me!
Now that my beloved Walrus is gone, I’m ridin’ the DJ traaaaain!
;=8)
We need an-udder Ray Lankford!
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
by The MooCow on Nov 17, 2009 11:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Indeed, indeed
Tis my sad premonition as well.
by mojowo11 on Nov 17, 2009 12:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Bah. Andrew Bailey.
As I said already today, he wasn’t even the best rookie on his own team. Brett Anderson got hosed.
Here comes the funcooker!
by the red baron on Nov 17, 2009 10:19 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
if it's any consolation to him, though
“DogManStar” was one of the best albums of the 90s.
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Nov 17, 2009 10:21 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
And Adam Wainwright wasn’t even the best-fielding pitcher on his team, and he won the GG.
But I guess the pitcher’s gold glove is the jokiest joke of them all.
by mojowo11 on Nov 17, 2009 12:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
poor Jo-El.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 17, 2009 2:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
2010 St. Louis ROY?
Brett Wallace.
Wait…..shit.
And, in a related story, this week marked the 5,000th performance of the Broadway musical "Cats." It also marked the 5,000th time a guy turned to his wife and said, "What the hell is this?"
by jd is legend on Nov 17, 2009 10:36 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I hate it when I hit "Post"
and my comment doesn’t show up until 4 months later in a totally different thread…..fucking SBN…
Please consider any Hot Stove talk in the above comment is spoken under the assumption that the Cardinals are not signing Matt Holliday.
by fourstick on Nov 17, 2009 11:06 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
you've been SBN'd
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 17, 2009 11:13 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
that's the SBN'd of all SBN'ds
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by gdm426 on Nov 17, 2009 2:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
OT: which came first, the mustaches or DanUp?
I remember all the guys were kind of scraggly during Spring Training, but as this was written in March, it seems rather… prescient.
Go, go gray blockquote.
—who is it out there, that mustachioed man?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 17, 2009 11:31 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
That was a pretty awesome VEB post/thread
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Nov 17, 2009 2:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Also OT
Anybody speak Korean?
There’s even an entry mentioning chuckb’s 2010 rotation post.
Something about sabermetrically-inclined Cardinals blogs on the other side of the world makes me smile.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Nov 17, 2009 11:35 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
i read it
it is mostly talking about comparing Cardinal players to Starcraft characters.
by FlimtotheFlam on Nov 17, 2009 11:40 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
"여기에서도 약간의 설명이 필요할 것 같다. Here, too, seems to require some explanation."
Crowned NL MVP Albert Pujols is almost assured of being in the situation, “the batter among the Cardinals this season, one player plays the best, in other words a team player who could contribute the most high …” The same question will be a complete waste of time. Then … Pujols? Pujols was the pick of the rest of you? Holliday. Holliday had a great season and was joined in the middle of the season is penalty. Pujols?? Yieun 2 to 3 above whether Pujols, who could stomach
by brackenthebox on Nov 17, 2009 11:41 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Some good quotes so far, with Google translating
On Ankiel: “Cardinals uniforms like he probably does not seem to see anymore. Ankiel. Hi Ankiel. Nice to meet you last 10 years.”
Glaus: “Troy Glaus. Blowing in the wind the whole season with injuries …”
Ludwick: "Ryan Ludwick full league season, the average level of the players said. According to Fangraphs, 18.1 to 18.1 replacement runs on RAR 100% league average in itself was a must. League average is not such a bad thing, but compared to last year’s can really say is the difference between heaven and earth.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Nov 17, 2009 11:54 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Fortunately, an aggressive approach at the plate hitting coach Hal McRae was the highlight of the seonguan is more important than Mark McGwire has been replaced by next year at the plate in a visible change in attitude that I hope to be.
A visible change in attitude I hope to be, evident the wash, also.
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by Felonius_Monk on Nov 17, 2009 12:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Gold Glove-winning season, Yadier Molina recorded a whopping 4.1 WAR.
More than anything, it cheers my heart that there’s a Korean word for “whopping”.
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by Felonius_Monk on Nov 17, 2009 12:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
wow
4.1 war
i had no idea. go, yads
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Nov 17, 2009 1:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
and that's only assuming he's about average in the field
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Nov 18, 2009 6:04 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Галоўка
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by Felonius_Monk on Nov 17, 2009 12:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Is that Belarusian for "head"?
It ain’t Russian…
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Nov 17, 2009 12:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I really Kurisukoguran pitcher of the year is full of good for half of the season, picking only outstanding hitter BBWAA is not to blame. VEB players in our name in many of his most habitual SBN may remember that the selection is underestimated. Coghlan terrible UZR is trapped in the McCutchen is probably a good year, we had much more evidence of the effect of different (and in all fairness ,+/-.)
Dan, your writing is getting shoddy.
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by Felonius_Monk on Nov 17, 2009 12:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Now, half of the season, this year account Kurisukoguran really good pitching, good hitters only to condemn the BBWAA has not been harvested. SBN VEB his many best practices, we are underestimating the names of players who have been forgotten, has not been selected. Coghlan UZR McCutchen fear was probably good we much more evidence of effectiveness and fairness are all different trap (,+/-.)
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by Felonius_Monk on Nov 17, 2009 12:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
2011 roy candidates -
Djtools
Descalso
Kozma
Anderson?
Salas
Ottavino.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Nov 17, 2009 12:30 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Stephen Strasburg
sent in a package to audaciously get reigning 2010 Cy Young award winner Ryan Franklin to close for the Nationals, as they attempt to repeat their dramatic 2010 World Series win.
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by Felonius_Monk on Nov 17, 2009 12:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oooo Exciting.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 17, 2009 12:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That rotation of Carp, Wainwright, Strasburg, Miller, and Garcia was epic win
from the point of view of this hypothetical future looking back on 2011.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Nov 17, 2009 12:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I like that future
I hear there’s free ice cream in it.
by Mulliganstew on Nov 17, 2009 1:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
VEB alumnus erik has a little rundown of the SB skillz of one "colby rasmus."
is this guy related to famous cardinal centerfielder constantine risamanonous? unclear at this time.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Nov 17, 2009 1:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
on the same not Molina is a bad runner
Worth a negative 5.7 runs on the basepath.
by FlimtotheFlam on Nov 17, 2009 2:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i'm sticking with DJ Tools for 11 to win
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by gdm426 on Nov 17, 2009 2:18 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I am hoping Shleby Miller flies though the system to win 2011
by FlimtotheFlam on Nov 17, 2009 2:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
that would be epic, but the dude's only 18
i can’t see the Cards letting another teenage pitcher fly through the system. not after what happened to Dick
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by gdm426 on Nov 17, 2009 2:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think Dick had drugs issues that no one talked about
by FlimtotheFlam on Nov 17, 2009 2:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i've heard those rumors too, i think it was even talked about this season
but that wasn’t his only problem. Shelby’s not Dick, he’s got a lot more stable upbringing & family life. but i still think the Cards will hold him back till he’s at least 21. just because they want to be careful & not repeat the past
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by gdm426 on Nov 17, 2009 3:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think you're right.
I have spent a lot of mental energy trying to figure that guy out. We usually only get to see the “Absolutely” mask.
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
by andi_k on Nov 17, 2009 6:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
not the Absolut?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Nov 17, 2009 8:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd pay good money to see that.
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
by andi_k on Nov 17, 2009 10:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
OT: Internet Mob mentality
So some guy in Lithuanian threw a dog off a bridge and videotaped it. Horrible stuff no point to linking to it. But what happened next always bothers me. The internet mob somehow found his info and posted it everywhere. People were sending this guy death threats in mass to his email and facebook account. I could not find the source of the info but it still kept getting reposted. It ended up not even being the right guy. I am just thinking of this guy waking up and finding death threats in his email account. The internet mob mentality can be scary at times.
by FlimtotheFlam on Nov 17, 2009 2:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I imagine this is exactly how TLR feels about his twitter account
Free Milton
by all4tookie on Nov 17, 2009 4:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
lol
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Nov 17, 2009 4:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
sounds more like something that would happen
on brad thompson’s twitter account
by DanUpBaby on Nov 17, 2009 11:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
that sort of stuff happens in society
what makes you think it doesn’t happen on the intarwebs?
I cannot repeal the words of the golden eel
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Nov 18, 2009 1:05 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
So, does Chris Coghlan look like Heath Ledger to anybody else?
Just throwin’ that out there… hello?…. echoooo…..
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Nov 19, 2009 12:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
JUst pulled up a picture of Heath (not a burden really)
They have a similar chin. But I think Coughlan has a bigger mouth and a different nose. Heath’s eyes are also squintier.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Nov 19, 2009 12:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Heath Ledger's lantern-jawed brother.
Now with extra feisty!
by spants on Nov 19, 2009 1:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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