The Trade Bait Blues
by the red baron on Oct 28, 2009 11:40 AM EDT
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PrintLadies and gentlemen, boys and girls, children of all ages...
I can't think of anything to write about this morning.
Seriously. I know it sounds a little odd, considering how I usually seem to just effortlessly spew out 10,000 word novellas at the drop of a hat, but I really can't think of much. I thought about doing a World Series preview, but then I thought, fuck that. I hate the Phillies and I hate the Yankees; previewing a series between them would essentially be like choosing which foot I would rather get kicked in the balls with, left or right. Either way, it's going to suck, so let's just leave it alone, kay?
It's still too early for any movement on the free agent market, so there's no news there. I don't have time to do a chat, and I can't imagine anyone really wants to talk about Twilight again for six hundred comments.
Also, I don't feel at all well today; I believe my brother gave me the stomach flu he's been complaining of the past several days. (It's really strange; I think I've been sick more in the past year than in the previous 8-10 years combined. It's beginning to really piss me off.)
There is one piece of real news, of course: Chris Carpenter was named yesterday as Major League Baseball's Comeback Player of the Year. Unfortunately, I already wrote a piece on that for my RFT gig, so not really a whole lot else to say there.
So what am I going to write about this morning? Well, I thought maybe we should do a quick rundown of what the Cardinals still have in the warchest if they need to try and make any trades this offseason. Looking around the free agent market, there are a few players the Cards may look to in order to try and bolster their chances, but not a whole lot, really. Sure, we would all like to see Mo go after John Lackey, but with the amount of payroll already tied up in the rotation, it probably isn't going to happen. The third base crop is uninspiring, to say the least, and in left field I have to think the Cardinals will either succeed in resigning Matt Holliday or take their chances with an internal option. In my ever so humble opinion, any substantial upgrades the Cards may make this offseason will likely have to come through making a trade. So just how bare is the cupboard?
Well, to be honest, pretty bare. Last year's deals did a fair job wiping out much of the depth the Cards had cultivated at the top of the system, particularly amongst the ranks of right-handed relief pitchers. Nonetheless, there are still a few names at both the major and minor league levels who just might be of interest to any potential trade partners.
Let's start with the major leaguers, shall we?
Skip Schumaker- Yes, that's right, I went right to that. Of all the players on the Cards' major league roster, Skip probably presents the best option for a player to be traded. Skip is perhaps the most average major league player you're ever going to see (his OPS+ in 2009 was 101; career it's 99), and as long as he's cheap, there's some definite value in that. On the other hand, given that he is so remarkably mediocre, Skip's spot on the roster is also one of those places you could gain some of that marginal advantage great teams so rely on. His offense is almost perfectly average, his defense is below-average at second; add in the positional adjustment and you have a player who is as average as average can be.
Now, how much value does Skip really have? Well, that's tough to say, honestly, but when you look at how affordable he is, it's certainly worth shopping him around, I would think. Schumaker is arbitration-eligible this season after making a little over 400K in 2009.
Ryan Ludwick- And even more controversial, I should think! Ha ha!
Actually, here's the thing about Ryan Ludwick: last season, he looked too valuable to trade. He was cheap, he was awesome, he seemed to have finally gotten past all the injuries which had kept him down for so long, what's not to like? Now, though, the picture is much cloudier. Luddy had a down season in which he looked a whole lot more like Skip Schumaker's big brother than a darkhorse MVP candidate. He's also on the verge of becoming much more expensive; Ludwick made $3.7 million in 2009 and will likely receive another decent boost this year.
The real problem with dealing Ludwick now is you would likely be selling a bit low; personally, I think he's a good candidate for a nice little bounceback year in 2010. On the other hand, Ryan is also not exactly a young ballplayer at this point, and expecting him to duplicate his 2008 performance is an extremely bad bet. If there's a good return to be had out there, I think you might very well have to consider moving him.
Mitchell Boggs- Yeah, I know. When Boggs is third on the list, that's probably not a good sign. Nonetheless, with the way Boggs pitched out of the bullpen late in the season, it isn't unfathomable some team might want him as a seventh or eighth inning arm. (Of course, the Cardinals would probably be well served to simply keep him and use him in that role, but that's not really the point of this exercise, now is it?)
Boggs is cheap, and will remain so for a couple more years. He has less than one year of major league service time, so he won't come up for arbitration for probably two more seasons. He's always had an exciting arm, and his stuff seemed to play up even further in relief. He isn't a principle trade piece, by any means, but could certainly bring some value as a secondary inclusion.
Okay, I'm going to level with you. That's pretty much it at the major league level. Trading Colby just doesn't make any sense at all, I can't imagine the Cards like Tyler Greene so much they would consider moving Brendan Ryan, and all the other positions are either filled with core players (Albert, Yadi), or guys who don't really have enough track record to be valuable yet. (see also David Freese and the like)
You know what? My laptop battery is almost dead, and I'm running out of time, folks. I'll just have to worry about the minor league trade bait some other time. Discuss amongst yourselves.
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Thanks for not suggesting Carp as trade bait...
when I saw the pics above I thought you were going to suggest something like a Carp for Hill trade. While I would love Hill, Carp CAN NOT be Traded. IMHO
Carp-Hill Tunnel
Yeah…that’s all I got.
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 28, 2009 11:55 AM EDT reply actions 5 recs
For the record
Puns will get recs from me every time out
John Smoltz for Cardinals' closer 2010!!
by jd is legend on Oct 28, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
LF
Tony seems to haver adopted Freese after donned the catcher’s gear on the last day of the season. It makes sense that we go with an internal option at 3B but Tony’s head will explode if we go with rookies in LF and 3B. Gotta think they bring back Derosa and send him to LF (assuming no Holliday).
If we go with a rookie in LF we have issues
There’s 30M to spend and that’s the only place where we definitively have replacement level producers as this roster is currently constructed.
Not afraid to nitpick
DeRosa isn't a good enough hitter to play LF
Even at his absolute best, he’s never mustered more than a .857. That looks pretty good at 2B, but it’s not mind-blowing in left and he probably won’t hit that well anyway.
But mark McGwire's the hitting coach!
Everyone will hit that well. Besides he’s right handed, and we all know what that means.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Does that make this year's motto
HIT MOAR DINGERZ?
"He stands there like a man. They didn’t teach him fear at home, where he grew up. It’s not part of his bag." - Felipe Alou on Albert Pujols
by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Oct 28, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Houston, we have a meme.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
I could sit here and talk about satellites...
…or I could hit some dingers. Your call.
BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
by vexedtechie on Oct 28, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Only way
I see a rookie in left field is if DeRosa is signed as some insurance. In fact, though the Cards won’t do it, having DeRosa play some third and some left field is not a horrible idea (in the absence of Holliday). Then both Freese and Craig have some back-up and can play with somewhat less consequence for the team if one has problems adjusting.
Call me old fashioned...
but an .857 batting average is damn impressive
"The Cards lead this game tied 1-1." -Mike Shannon
bane or boon?
you decide
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 28, 2009 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
that's deep.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
I have to say, that picture is a nice...
Freese frame.
[glasses]
YEEEAAAAAHHHHHH
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Oct 28, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
that's momup's good work
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
She does get some really good shots, doesn't she?
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 28, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
It's a good idea to not piss off the mothers of the world.
Kinda like the GOBs, they will smack ya down when pushed.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 28, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
other post, she said she needed special goggles
to survive Carpenter’s stare.
she’s braving the elements, man.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
With that much luggage coming at her,
she must be one tuff cookie.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 28, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
If only I were David Caruso...
BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
by vexedtechie on Oct 28, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions 8 recs
Damn son.
You did that fast. I’m highly impressed
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 28, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I have great trepidation about this meme.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Just about to post something similar
John Smoltz for Cardinals' closer 2010!!
by jd is legend on Oct 28, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Well done.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 28, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Have you ever heard
of Hypothetical Horatio on the Dameshek podcast?
"The Cards lead this game tied 1-1." -Mike Shannon
So when you take them off once you cracked the case
It is twice as dramatic
by FlimtotheFlam on Oct 28, 2009 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions
YEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHH
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
One set is actually for eye protection
The other, for dramatic punctuation.
Offseason Rumors : Me :: Unicorn Blood : Voldemort
by Cardinals645 on Oct 28, 2009 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions
f'in awesome
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 29, 2009 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions
If he does, though
He’s gonna be the man who’s havering to you
John Smoltz for Cardinals' closer 2010!!
by jd is legend on Oct 28, 2009 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
i rec'd this 500 times.
then i rec’d it 500 more.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Oct 28, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
just to be the man who rec'd a thousand times to fall down at his door?
"He stands there like a man. They didn’t teach him fear at home, where he grew up. It’s not part of his bag." - Felipe Alou on Albert Pujols
by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Oct 28, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
you mean at his computer desk in his mother's basement?
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
Is it weird
that the first thing I thought about when reading that was this?
I want the Walrus back...
If you're going to do a run down of our roster's tradeability
I think you should look at every player, and we have some really attractive players to trade for on our big league roster right now, starting with:
- Adam Wainwright — great contract, probably making him the best trade piece in all of baseball not named Longoria. He’s probably an ace of any staff that doesn’t have Carpenter or Tim Lincecum on it.
- Colby Rasmus — A filthy amount of potential that hasn’t surfaced at the big league level yet. Young, cheap, plays a premium defensive position and is in the top 1% of defenders in the big leagues overall. Probably a 1b to Adam’s 1a.
Obviously we don’t want to trade either of those players, but that’s precisely the reason they have such great trade value.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
get out
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Oct 28, 2009 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
If they trade Colby
I’m leaving. For good. That’s the last straw.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
What if they trade him for Sizemore?
Somehow I feel the answer to this would be Ditka
John Smoltz for Cardinals' closer 2010!!
by jd is legend on Oct 28, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
comments like this make me think maybe we don't need Mr. Redbird back after all
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
nononononononononono - you're doing it wrong
See, this is how it works:
Step 1 – Identify internal pieces we don’t really need or want
Step 2 – Overinflate their value and pretend GMs for other teams think similarly
Step 3 – Identify valuable or needed pieces on other teams
Step 4 – Propose swapping Step 1 assets for Step 3 assets
Step 5 – Castigate Mo for not accomplishing Step 4.
Rinse and repeat.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Oct 28, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
This is precisely why I made this post
We need to do a better job of being a bit more level-headed around here when it comes to our prospects, and we really shouldn’t be labeling guys as “untouchable” either. Flags fly forever people, and if we could get back three top 50 prospects for one Colby Rasmus we should do it, no matter how you feel about Colby.
It all depends on the deal. Of course I’d have to be wowed out of my mind to trade Wainwright, but that doesn’t meant that a deal for him isn’t out there that might wow me. Keep an open mind.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
LISTEN
Chris Carpenter wins his NL Comeback Award
http://sports.espn.go.com/espnradio/player?id=4598255
Adam Wainwright wins his NL Outstanding Pitcher Award
http://sports.espn.go.com/espnradio/player?id=4601375
Lots of juicy tidbits throughout, including the don’t-call-it-a-comeback, postseason, McGwire, La Russa, Duncan, props to Skippeh, props to Jo-El, and more evidence for How Chris Carpenter Should Be Our Next Pitching Coach.
(Nickname enthusiasts will find much to pick out.)
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
wow
cards are gonna get p much every award but roy
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
ROY
is the one at the start of the year that most people would have predicted the Cards would get.
most people also thought the cubs would repeat in 09
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 28, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
it's pretty clear that, but for 2-3 FA signings, we're gonna have to roll with what we got.
i can’t seriously think we would trade any of these guys in the offseason.
the only bright spot is that we might be able to turn over some of our young #4-#5 pitching talent mid-season, if everybody stays healthy and pitches well. mitch boggs could have a lot more value to a team in June than in January if he has a good year and replaces whoever the 2010 todd wellemeyer is. right now, that’s just wishful thinking, but it’s plausible.
skippy is probably more likely a trade target next offseason – give him another year of experience under his belt, and get dan descalso a good year to show who he is. if he looks like he can provide average or better service at 2B, skippy should be gone.
luddy, I think we’re sink-or-swim with him. trade him now and he’ll be worth very little. see what he does next year; if he has a good year, we’ll have to look at what our internal options are and whether it makes sense to move him. if he tanks, he’s not going to be worth much.
speaking of luddy and trades, i think the price on kelly johnson has dropped a lot. i have my eye on what’s happening in atlanta. could be a good LF/2B depth guy still. anybody else have kelly johnson thoughts?
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
good point on kelly
I also have my eye on atlanta (i live there). With the emergence of Prado and Infante, ATL really has no need for Johnson. if you were implying a luddy for johnson trade straight up though, i would be against that. while Johnson is a good bounceback candidate, I still like Ludy’s upside and power a bit more. Either way though, I think he is a candidate we should keep an eye on, especially if we don’t resign DeRo.
i wasn't saying luddy-for-johnson.
the ludwick as trade bait talk just made me think of him, because johnson was one of the rumored trade targets last year. iirc, ludwick for escobar was our rumored offer and maybe ankiel for johnson, while the braves wanted luddy for johnson, i think? it’s all so long ago.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
makes sense
that makes sense. i wasn’t sure from your initial wording. i do remember some ankiel for johnson talk last offseason.
i do like KJ for some bounceback, especially with the proverbial “change of scenery.”
Have we had this discussion before?
Where in ATL do you live?
John Smoltz for Cardinals' closer 2010!!
by jd is legend on Oct 28, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes
I thought we had, but downtown Athens has taken too many brain cells
John Smoltz for Cardinals' closer 2010!!
by jd is legend on Oct 28, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
What about trading Kyle Lohse for another bad contract?
Vernon Wells, Blue Jays – five years, $98.5MM
Alfonso Soriano, Cubs – five years, $90MM
Barry Zito, Giants – four years, $83MM
Alex Rios, White Sox – five years, $59.7MM
Travis Hafner, Indians – three years, $40.25MM
Aaron Rowand, Giants – three years, $36MM
Carlos Guillen, Tigers – two years, $26MM
Carlos Silva, Mariners – two years, $25MM
Francisco Cordero, Reds – two years, $25MM
Oliver Perez, Mets – two years, $24MM
Gary Matthews Jr., Angels – two years, $23MM
Milton Bradley, Cubs – two years, $21MM
Juan Pierre, Dodgers – two years, $18.5MM
Jeff Suppan, Brewers – one year, $14.5MM
David Ortiz, Red Sox – one year, $12.5MM
Jeremy Bonderman, Tigers – one year, $12.5MM
Jose Guillen, Royals – one year, $12MM
Eric Chavez, Athletics – one year, $12MM
Dontrelle Willis, Tigers – one year, $12MM
Eric Byrnes, Diamondbacks – one year, $11MM
Fausto Carmona, Indians – two years, $11MM
Scott Linebrink, White Sox – two years, $10.5MM
Nate Robertson, Tigers – one year, $10MM
Edgar Renteria, Giants – one year, $9.5MM
Pat Burrell, Rays – one year, $9MM
Kei Igawa, Yankees – two years $8MM
Jeff Francis, Rockies – one year, $5.75MM
Kyle Farnsworth, Royals – one year, $5MM
Willy Taveras, Reds – one year, $4MM
Honorable mentions: Michael Young (4/64, some deferred), Carlos Lee (3/55.5), Derek Lowe (3/45), Todd Helton (2/40.3), Magglio Ordonez (1/18, possible vesting option), Mike Lowell (1/12), Chris Snyder (2/11.25), Cristian Guzman (1/8), Jamie Moyer (1/6.5), Kaz Matsui (1/5)
per MLBTR
I think we'd be selling too low...
I’m pretty certain Lohse is a better pitcher than the 2009 version. I think we should see if he can get back to where he was in April/May before we try to dump him.
If you see a guy open the car door for his girlfriend, either the car is new or the girlfriend is.
Lohse isn't as bad as those guys
He may end up being close to worth his contract.
by vivaelpujols on Oct 28, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
how does a no-trade clause work...?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
like this
1) sign pitcher to bloated contract with NTC
2) ???
3) profit!
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Oct 28, 2009 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I have to say...
I’m enjoying the never ending string of underpants gnomes references over the past week.
Nice underpants gnomes reference
by CardsFanSmikema on Oct 28, 2009 6:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
full NTC
means the player can block any trade. player has to agree to be traded to the team in questions before the trade can proceed
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
Lohse
I don’t think that the Cardinals, as an organization, see the Lohse contract as an awful deal. I think that opinion is centered on the rather-to-very intelligent fan base that analyzes the team’s moves with logical precision and wants to see those ideas applied to a franchise that is all-too-often not guided by logic (not exclusive to our hometown club, by any means). Not to say that they are wont to do stupid things, just that decisions are often made based around optimistic hopes or personal (personnel?) preferences.
With his performance from 2008 fresh in their minds, and the multitude of bad luck and injuries that he had last year apparent as well, there are plenty of good reasons to be positive about Lohse’s chances to rebound. Do I feel that way? Probably not. I would like to see him do well, but don’t let the obviousness of him looking, sounding & walking like water fowl be overwhelmed by that the fact that he happened to bark once.
Don't argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. - anon.
only one out of that group
that could put us on top is bradley and, well, you know
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
For me, Zito is the worst one.
I have no numbers to back it up but damn that puts a hurting on a team, paying a #4 guy that much money.
The Giants should consider a lawsuit.
by Tom_Lawless_Bat_Flip on Oct 28, 2009 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions
flip his contract with Lincecum's
and everything looks happy
by brackenthebox on Oct 29, 2009 6:46 AM EDT up reply actions
isn't lincecum
about due to break the arbitration record?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Gary Matthews Jr., anyone?
not the worst option in LF in the world…
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
no no no no no no no no no no no.
that man has had negative value two years going. i’d rather see nick stavinoha.
however, andruw jones?
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
yeah but you'd have negative value too
..if you were playing in an outfield with at least 4 other good outfielders (ok, 3, vlad’s not actually an outfielder). still, that signing boggles my mind more and more every time i think about it. why on earth would the angels POSSIBLY have thought signing him, to that kind of deal nonetheless, was a good idea? signing him in the first place was an awful idea.
but seriously. if they’d eat a bunch of his contract, and we can’t sign holliday, i wouldn’t be opposed.
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
by tehzachatak on Oct 28, 2009 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
mathews
a poor man’s rick ankiel
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I can not even begin to wrap my head around this
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Oct 28, 2009 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
since when is $50million poor?
if that’s poor, i don’t what to know what i am
pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels
when i say negative value i mean
He’s worth less than the prototypical replacement player. Actually, rick ankiel is a good archetype of a replacement value player. So, no, playing in an outfield of talented players does not make you a player with negative value. Hitting for a below average wOBA and being a crappy fielder make you a less than replacement value player.
I would bet we have three or four minor league players who could provide more value than matthews.not interested at any price.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Oct 29, 2009 12:22 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Couple of guys...
worth mentioning:
Ryan Franklin – Did his late season semicollapse completely destroy his value? Could he bring more in a trade than he’ll produce on the field? Can we replace him with Smoltz or someone else? WWTD?
Blake Hawksworth – I know a lot of our statheads around here are down on the Hawk because he pitched over his head, and his ERA (2.03!!) doesn’t match up with his peripherals (K/9 = 4.5 K:BB = 1.33:1), but isn’t that exactly the kind of pitcher you try to trade? Looks like a solid pitcher…might turn into pumpkin. He pitched 40 innings in 30 games…that’s likely enough to get some attention.
If you see a guy open the car door for his girlfriend, either the car is new or the girlfriend is.
i think
frankie could probably be a good trade piece. most people will look at his overall numbers. that ~2 era and 38 or so save could be very valuable
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
I would love to dump franklin for anything useful
and spend the $ we save on someone like Calero (or even put them into the Smoltz contract and sign a second FA starter/reliever).
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Oct 30, 2009 4:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Did you say...
“John Smoltz for closer!”????
John Smoltz for Cardinals' closer 2010!!
by jd is legend on Oct 28, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
You lie!
you aren’t supposed to say that anymore (I thought).
If you see a guy open the car door for his girlfriend, either the car is new or the girlfriend is.
Loophole!
:P
Ok, seriously I’m done
John Smoltz for Cardinals' closer 2010!!
by jd is legend on Oct 28, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Excellent ideas.
Both of those two are quite overvalued, and both are replaceable (Smoltz and Boggs are better in the respective spots).
Who would bite on them, and what might they be worth? I can think of a few teams with volatile closing situations where Franklin might fit.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
Franklin for Crawford
Straight up. Get it done, Mo.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
that's crazy enough
it might just work
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
I'm not sure the Rays are that dumb.
They might actually prefer Hawksworth.
Let’s send him to the Phillies for Jayson Werth.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
methinks Werth is close to untouchable these days...
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Oct 30, 2009 4:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Franklin, Hawk, and Skip for Crawford?
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
lulz were intended
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
Skip will never be traded under TLR
Skip seems like a guy TLR just loves. He is our leadoff hitter who switched positions for him. If we traded Skip I could see him get so mad he would kick a puppyBrad Thompson.
He's Matt Thornton + Mystery
Mystery apparently has a monetary value of about 37-57M
Not afraid to nitpick
Did someone say Mystery?
“Considering how much you’ll all get laid, 37-57M is a deal for me.”
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
or...
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Edward Gorey, too?
I swear you really are my long-lost twin brother.
(Unless I am mistaken and this is really not a page from The Blue Aspic)
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
no, it's from ... Mystery!
but yes, that’s Gorey.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
I knew I recognized it
from somewhere, but I suppose it should have been obvious what with all the talk of “MYSTERY” above.
Multi-tasking reduces my reading comprehension and inference skills. : (
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
rb, yes on sickness sucks and i sympathize
re options, retooling through trades seems unlikely to me because our pieces are either too valuable (e.g., corky) or no worth enough to make a difference (e.g., boggs). i also agree the young pitching might be worth much more in june.
i disagree on 3rd base though, when tejada is available and willing to do that job. my advice to mo is:
once it gets past 16m per for holliday he gets offered arb
dero is offered arb no matter
tejada is signed to play 3rd (2 yr deal)
bench is tg, lugo, freeze, craig
after holliday is no longer an option, we go for a true closer
side bet may be a short incentive based deal for glaus if miggy doesn’t fly or polanco
don’t know the specifics of his deal, but trading lugo might be worth looking at since he won’t cost the partner anything
trades: seems like only skippy is likely worth anything, but will require a 2’fer to yield a significant upgrade. i think we have other skippy equivalents in the minors, but it would mean moving from arb to a 2 year deal for rosy.
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
aiiiiiiiiiiiggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!! no true closer talk!! didn't we learn anything last year!!!!!
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Oct 28, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
no on tejada and polanco
just say no to type a
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
Do both teams offer arb?
probably so, but both Tejada and Polonca would likely see raises through arby, and neither of those teams seem like the “take on more salary” type to me.
If you see a guy open the car door for his girlfriend, either the car is new or the girlfriend is.
If the 'stros fail to offer arbitration, Tejada could be a good 3B option,
but I’m still pretty much down with Freese being the first guy to get a shot.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
yeah
i think he’ll be able to be league average
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
He could be average to slightly above, depending on how big a bump he gets moving to 3B.
His SS defense is pretty atrocious.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
i was talking about freese
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
Freese certainly *could* be league average.
I’d settle for his stellar defense plus a bat that approximates the 2009 Brark Thurosaden
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
tejada should be
plenty above average at 3b, just not excited about giving up bryce harper in june for tejada
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
His batspeed is insane!
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
Totally agree on Freese...
and Tejada.
Polanco is limited to 2B I’m sure, and as long as we have Skip we’re solid at the keystone. However, if we can get a good return by trading Skippy I still have a soft spot in my heart for Placido.
If you see a guy open the car door for his girlfriend, either the car is new or the girlfriend is.
No thanks
Tejada hit 283/313/395 away from the Juice Box last year and 273/307/394 the year before that.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Oct 28, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Those OBP numbers = not good
John Smoltz for Cardinals' closer 2010!!
by jd is legend on Oct 28, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions
It's like being coached by Hal McRae, without even having to play for the Cardinals...
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
You know hazel...
"He stands there like a man. They didn’t teach him fear at home, where he grew up. It’s not part of his bag." - Felipe Alou on Albert Pujols
"Ryan Howard hit behind Jimmy Rollins and Chase Utley. If Albert Pujols hit behind Jimmy Rollins and Chase Utley, he would have had 493 RBI. Do the math. It checks out." - FJM
by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Oct 28, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks Southside, I was beginning to wonder if anyone was gonna pick me up.
"He stands there like a man. They didn’t teach him fear at home, where he grew up. It’s not part of his bag." - Felipe Alou on Albert Pujols
"Ryan Howard hit behind Jimmy Rollins and Chase Utley. If Albert Pujols hit behind Jimmy Rollins and Chase Utley, he would have had 493 RBI. Do the math. It checks out." - FJM
by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Oct 28, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I was hoping it would die
along with Al not being renewed.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
Did Al really not get renewed?
I know the backstory, just didn’t know if non-renewal occurred yet or you were making a joke.
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
Vince Coleman
needs a job!
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Oct 29, 2009 1:43 AM EDT up reply actions
I would love to see that,
based on the little preview we got.
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
Is that official yet?
I have a little jig I’ve been planning to do.
"Everyone in here comes to the yard ready to play every day. I’ll take this group, any day until the day I die."
"This whole Cardinals thing.....I don’t know if you guys are a believer, but I’m a believer."
~ Ryan Fucking Ludwick
Not yet...
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
he might renew now that Big Mac is here
so we can hear all of his grumpy old man opinions about it.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
If only I can hear
the Mike Schimdt stole my Gold Glove story.
by Tom_Lawless_Bat_Flip on Oct 28, 2009 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Bench
Unless you plan on having Freese be the backup (not to be confused with emergency) catcher, there is no way you could run a bench with two middle infielders, two 3rd basemen, and basically no outfielders. Actually, it could work, but only if you resign DeRosa and heavily utilize Skippy in the outfield mix, but that idea was not addressed in your proposal above.
Don't argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. - anon.
yes, that bench is my primary worry at the moment
it’s as deep as a kiddie pool.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Isn't that pretty much what we did the starting lineup the first part of this past season?
two middle infielders, two 3rd basemen, and basically no outfielders
"He stands there like a man. They didn’t teach him fear at home, where he grew up. It’s not part of his bag." - Felipe Alou on Albert Pujols
by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Oct 28, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Was listening to Bernie on the Radio
He made a good point about Rasmus. He is probably due to make huge improvements in 2010 if he has a good offseason. The reason he lost all the weight was that he had a sports hernia so couldn’t lift weights.
Let's hope
Colby is over his injuries. Remember the year before he missed a large part of the minor league season with injuries. Hope this is not a trend.
i'm starting to frickin hate sports hernias
did we have a medical post on that? might our esteemed docs in the house consider doing one…?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
hazel (i think)
already did a pretty comprehensive one on hiatal hernias, which is what colby had, right?
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
as below
I’m confused about the sports hernia part.
But that seems to be preventable, as opposed to the hiatal hernia (all my knowledge thanks to hazel…)
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
sports hernia?
I thought it was a hiatal hernia?
No, the 2 aren’t the same.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
but, but!
he plays sports and he got a hernia!
put two and two together man.
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
Is there a link to that radio show or something?
I had not heard that Colby had a sports hernia- only a hiatal hernia.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
Sports hernia
I actually have a sports hernia right now,
and I’m getting surgery in November for it.
Basically, there are three layers of
abdominal muscles. In a real hernia, all three layers are torn, which is why your intestines start to poke through and stuff. In a sports hernia, only the top one or two layers are
torn. So, there’s no bump and it’s REALLY hard to diagnose. I went to 4 doctors before seeing a specialist in SanFran. I believe there are only 3 doctors who perform surgery on it in the US.
It’s not medically dangerous at all, but it makes running and turning very painful. My doctor said if I decided to take up chess instead of Ultimate frisbee, I’d be fine.
Let me know if there are any other questions
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
by mysterui on Oct 28, 2009 4:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Real hernia
I have had an inguinal hernia before, including the whole poking out of the intestines. At that point, it didn’t hurt much at all, but I was at severe risk of further damage, so I was put on light duty (discovered the issue while underway in the Navy). It hurt like hell when they did the surgery after I pulled into port; not entirely sure if it was just normal or that they botched the operation (I ended up getting another surgery after I was discharged).
The big issue with a “real” hernia is that the rupture could turn into a full tear. A guy I worked with had a car accident when he was younger that caused a severe inguinal hernia and he woke up the next day with [WARNING: stuff guaranteed to give you the willies] his intestines stuffed into his thighs. He was significantly overweight when I knew him (400+) though, so that might have factored into it. Another fun side effect of a sizeable inguinal hernia is the possibility of a strangulated hernia, which involves [WARNING to guys: sympathy pains upcoming] the intestines dropping into the scrotum, looping around one or both testes, and pulling.
The hiatal hernia that I beleive Colby was dealing with is an abdominal/stomach issue. A sports hernia is characterized by chronic groin pain. I’m guessing that people are confusing the two terms, as they are more than likely completely separate conditions.
Don't argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. - anon.
Just the idea of a hernia kinda gives me the willies.
But one of the benefits of having family members in medicine is that you get used to stuff like that.
Off topic: I wondered what the heck your avatar was. Is it from the game Full Throttle by any chance?
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Even as a medical professional,
an inguinal hernia is one of the problems that makes me most uncomfortable to talk about.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
Ding ding ding
Ben from the classic LucasArts adventure game. Loved the opening music from The Gone Jackals.
“Ripburger, you’re dumber than dirt!”
And now for a volleyball-like set serve,
“I’m not putting my mouth on that”
Don't argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. - anon.
I only discovered it randomly.
I’ve been listening to this huge YouTube playlist of videogame music at work, and each one has accompanying video. One of the PC videos was from Full Throttle and I instantly recognized the big bad-ass dude on the bike.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
How can you have a sports hernia
when ultimate frisbee is not a sport? Seems like a misdiagnosis to me…
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Oct 30, 2009 4:21 AM EDT up reply actions
how many bill nye's could explain that?
Chicago Cubs: The first century was funny...this second one is just sad...
luddy
i’d rather lock him up to a 3/18 deal than trade him. can’t see how he doesn’t bounce back next year
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
Ludwick's agent
would be crazy to sign for 3/$18M. He was worth more than $6M last year. I think 3/$24 might be a tough sell for his agent.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Oct 28, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions
he won't get 3/24
after his ‘09 season. i wouldn’t go more than 3/20. not like luddy’s agent is basing asking price on fangraphs war/$
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
“not like luddy’s agent is basing his asking price on fangraphs war/$”
No, he’s probably using some metric that is even more favorable to his client. These guys aren’t dummies, they have their own sabremetric based metrics, I’m sure. If a bunch of folks posting from their parents’ basements can figure this stuff out, you can bet that agents who actually get paid can do the same.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Oct 28, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Joe Morgan has taught me
Being paid to know baseball does not actually mean you will know anything about baseball.
I’m sure this holds true for agents as well as coaches and announcers and scouts and the like.
But not all
John Smoltz for Cardinals' closer 2010!!
by jd is legend on Oct 28, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Eh, they don't have their own sabermetricians- that's for sure.
They’re pitchmen and contract lawyers, not geniuses, and not particularly out-of-the-box thinkers. They use out of context small sample split stats as much as media members and managers do. Remember that packet that Scott Boras sent to the Mets about Ollie Perez?
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
but I am sure Scott Boras also has that Other Packet on Ollie Perez
he’s a genius lawyer pitchman because he can spout out the one and not the other.
that he doesn’t present it doesn’t mean they don’t have it somewhere. in a safe. in a box. down a well.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
I would think so too
It’d be in his best interest to understand his clients as much as he can; it makes sense to me that this unbiased knowledge would help an agent make a pitch for his player, because you would know which strengths to emphasize and which faults to de-emphasize or obscure.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
and also the killer bees to eliminate anyone who's seen the Other Packet
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
a genius being able to cherrypick does not make
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
he got us to sign Lohse, didn't he?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
he got your mom to sign your face
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
Your mom signed my junk
last night Trebek.
"Everyone in here comes to the yard ready to play every day. I’ll take this group, any day until the day I die."
"This whole Cardinals thing.....I don’t know if you guys are a believer, but I’m a believer."
~ Ryan Fucking Ludwick
As much as we would all like to think otherwise. . .
sabremetrician does not equal rocket scientist.
Heck, all the agent would have to do is spend $39.95 to get a subscription to baseball prospectus or look at fangraphs for free in order to make a lucid statistical argument.
It ain’t like we’ve discovered the Holy Grail, here, or anything.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Oct 28, 2009 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions
They thought they had discovered it, but it was just a beacon above Castle Anthrax (not a very good name, is it?)
which happens to be grail-shaped. Evil, naughty Zoot!
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
And you know there is only one punishment for lighting the grail-shaped beacon...
"He stands there like a man. They didn’t teach him fear at home, where he grew up. It’s not part of his bag." - Felipe Alou on Albert Pujols
"Ryan Howard hit behind Jimmy Rollins and Chase Utley. If Albert Pujols hit behind Jimmy Rollins and Chase Utley, he would have had 493 RBI. Do the math. It checks out." - FJM
by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Oct 28, 2009 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Please don't spank me.
"Everyone in here comes to the yard ready to play every day. I’ll take this group, any day until the day I die."
"This whole Cardinals thing.....I don’t know if you guys are a believer, but I’m a believer."
~ Ryan Fucking Ludwick
the man stew is pretty disturbing today.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
I think he would get more than 3 years/$18M
When I ran the numbers for my fanpost I got his arbitration at $5.5M for this year. $5.5 represents about 60%(2nd yr of arb) of what he would of got on the free market.
by FlimtotheFlam on Oct 28, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
This is guaranteed money.
Ludwick is slump and injury prone and is pretty old for an arbitration player. He’ll accept 3/18 I’ll bet a zillion intar-bucks.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
No way. . .
not even if Carp threatens him with luggage.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Oct 28, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
It happens all the time.
Adam Wainwright had the best non-Carpenter Cardinals pitching season of the decade in 2009 and was paid $2.6M for it. Buying out arbitration years necessarily pays the player less because the money is guaranteed.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
Sure. . .
but you’re only buying out 2 arbitration years. 2/$12? Probably. I just don’t know that Ludwick wants to be in St. Louis any longer than he has to, given that 1) it’s at least a slight pitchers park, and 2) TLR has jerked him in and out of the lineup.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Oct 28, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
dude, Ludwick has dug in here.
http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2009/10/11/1079900/everyone-in-here-comes-to-the-yard
Carp likes him. Albert likes him.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
As I stated earlier
Ryan Fucking Ludwick does not approve of the trade Ryan Ludwick talk.
"Everyone in here comes to the yard ready to play every day. I’ll take this group, any day until the day I die."
"This whole Cardinals thing.....I don’t know if you guys are a believer, but I’m a believer."
~ Ryan Fucking Ludwick
Ludwick makes the most sense to me
I agree that we’d be selling slightly low at the moment. I see his norm as a bit higher than this year (since he missed a chunk of time and didn’t really get the proper rehab needed), but not as high as ‘08. I am huge Ludwick fan, but it seems like he’d get us the best return in a trade, so I’d be willing to see what he could fetch.
In a perfect world Ludwick would be an ideal #6 hitter. Sadly, the Cards don’t have the depth to pull that off without Holliday resigning + another bat. I know its wishful thinking, but having one extra bat equal to Ludwick in our order turns our inconsistent lineup into the Phillies. At the end of the year we had Pujols/Holliday: One of the best 1-2 punches int he game. But the lineup just fizzled after that. Both teams that made the world series have an amazing amount of depth in the lineup, which we’re at least 2 upgraded bats away from having.
defy, cards, defy. hey logic --- you suck.
OT:
I am now a homeowner…..I will officially be blogging from my own basement from here forward. The implications are frightening.
"Everyone in here comes to the yard ready to play every day. I’ll take this group, any day until the day I die."
"This whole Cardinals thing.....I don’t know if you guys are a believer, but I’m a believer."
~ Ryan Fucking Ludwick
congratulations
make sure you cover the windows, there are stalkers around here
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
You can't do that!
At the very least run a proxy through your mother’s basement so no one will catch on.
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Oct 28, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Congrats!
Where at?
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
Here in Montana
Helena to be exact.
"Everyone in here comes to the yard ready to play every day. I’ll take this group, any day until the day I die."
"This whole Cardinals thing.....I don’t know if you guys are a believer, but I’m a believer."
~ Ryan Fucking Ludwick
A quiz I took once told me that of my top spots to live was in Montana.
Billings I think. But Denver was first.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Billings sucks...
Think North Dakota or Wyoming. West of the Divide is the place to be.
"Everyone in here comes to the yard ready to play every day. I’ll take this group, any day until the day I die."
"This whole Cardinals thing.....I don’t know if you guys are a believer, but I’m a believer."
~ Ryan Fucking Ludwick
I would prefer Denver or the second option:
Carlisle, Pennsylvania. I love that part of the country. AFter that it wanted me to live in Utah. The it finally got to Cleveland and St. Louis.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
I didn't realize people actually lived in that state.
I thought we just let the moosen vote.
Future Redbirds - tracking Cardinal prospects for Cardinal Nation
There's 3 or 4 of us up here.
Robots need special oil to function in our enviros. Remember that if you ever visit.
"Everyone in here comes to the yard ready to play every day. I’ll take this group, any day until the day I die."
"This whole Cardinals thing.....I don’t know if you guys are a believer, but I’m a believer."
~ Ryan Fucking Ludwick
Did you just say you wanted to oil up azruavatar body?
by FlimtotheFlam on Oct 28, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
No Flim, I did not.......
Just handing out useful travel information.
"Everyone in here comes to the yard ready to play every day. I’ll take this group, any day until the day I die."
"This whole Cardinals thing.....I don’t know if you guys are a believer, but I’m a believer."
~ Ryan Fucking Ludwick
Mind you, moose bites are very nasty!
John Smoltz for Cardinals' closer 2010!!
by jd is legend on Oct 28, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
moose bites can be quite nasti.
"Everyone in here comes to the yard ready to play every day. I’ll take this group, any day until the day I die."
"This whole Cardinals thing.....I don’t know if you guys are a believer, but I’m a believer."
~ Ryan Fucking Ludwick
by RiverRat on Oct 28, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
no, realli! she was karving her initials on the moose with a toothbrush that had been given her by
a dentist known for acting in such films as “flaming molars of passion” . . .
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Oct 28, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
No, realli?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 28, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I apologize for the moose thread.
Those responsible have been sacked.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Oct 28, 2009 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
will this thread be completed
at great expense and at the last minute?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 28, 2009 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
By Llamas.
"Everyone in here comes to the yard ready to play every day. I’ll take this group, any day until the day I die."
"This whole Cardinals thing.....I don’t know if you guys are a believer, but I’m a believer."
~ Ryan Fucking Ludwick
by RiverRat on Oct 28, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
so if you see a llama, make sure to shout "careful, there are llamas!"
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Oct 28, 2009 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
This post was directed by
14 North Chilean guanacos (closely related to the llama)
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Oct 28, 2009 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
at which point, google is your friend.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
you've missed the Holy Grail.
the grail-shaped beacon should have been your clue.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
yup
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Watch Holy Grail...
Everybody misses the credits at the beginning. Here is a run down via the intertubes.
"Everyone in here comes to the yard ready to play every day. I’ll take this group, any day until the day I die."
"This whole Cardinals thing.....I don’t know if you guys are a believer, but I’m a believer."
~ Ryan Fucking Ludwick
Ahhh...
I’ve seen it many times and I usually try to read all the credits but I am usually not successful.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
It's actually my favourite part of the movie.
"Everyone in here comes to the yard ready to play every day. I’ll take this group, any day until the day I die."
"This whole Cardinals thing.....I don’t know if you guys are a believer, but I’m a believer."
~ Ryan Fucking Ludwick
google it, you'll find a youtube video or so of them.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
Well Done VEB
Excellent work.
Signed,
Richard M. Nixon
"Everyone in here comes to the yard ready to play every day. I’ll take this group, any day until the day I die."
"This whole Cardinals thing.....I don’t know if you guys are a believer, but I’m a believer."
~ Ryan Fucking Ludwick
That's Montana's state capital!
not sure if you knew that or not!
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
I've heard that somewhere before.
"Everyone in here comes to the yard ready to play every day. I’ll take this group, any day until the day I die."
"This whole Cardinals thing.....I don’t know if you guys are a believer, but I’m a believer."
~ Ryan Fucking Ludwick
GeoSafari?
John Smoltz for Cardinals' closer 2010!!
by jd is legend on Oct 28, 2009 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Animaniacs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNUDDaEOvuY
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
I don't remember John Lennon doing voice work for that show
John Smoltz for Cardinals' closer 2010!!
by jd is legend on Oct 28, 2009 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Jess Harnell at ComicCon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwKKo3-8bYs
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
well, at least it's the NL Central
and we can safely say: at least we’re not that team.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
hehehehe
I laugh at them in my Grady jersey. Youth large btw, if anyone was wondering.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
I WAS WONDERING, ACTUALLY
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
If anyone WAS wondering
That should probably be a cause for concern on your part, young lady.
(I’m only 22, so I’m in no way qualified to call you “young lady.”)
There was a conversation yesterday about women's jerseys vs. kid's jerseys.
That’s all I was referring to.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
I fear this extension of the clothing discussion is going to merge soon with the discussion of "romantic stalking"
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
i already merged them in my head, fwiw....
Chicago Cubs: The first century was funny...this second one is just sad...
ESPN pollsters just aren't good with the whole "colors" thing are they:
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
I have seen that a lot with the ESPN polls
It looks to me like there are default colors for the first choice, second choice, etc. and that the creator doesn’t order them to take advantage of the colors. Or maybe he doesn’t care what order he puts the choices in.
Yep, every Hall of Famer did something unique. Mike Schmidt played with his hat sideways. Roberto Clemente chewed other people's fingernails. Tris Speaker was Japanese. Lou Boudreau rode a dolphin into the batter's box. Nap Lajoie would only use John Wilkes Booth's dismembered leg as a bat. And he corked it. Johnny Mize was from the future. - FJM
Checked on that too
But it doesn’t seem the case. The Yes/No ones I found has Yes first.
Yep, every Hall of Famer did something unique. Mike Schmidt played with his hat sideways. Roberto Clemente chewed other people's fingernails. Tris Speaker was Japanese. Lou Boudreau rode a dolphin into the batter's box. Nap Lajoie would only use John Wilkes Booth's dismembered leg as a bat. And he corked it. Johnny Mize was from the future. - FJM
Note to self:
If I have aspirations of becoming obscenely rich and owning a baseball team, do not under any circumstances get married.
Not afraid to nitpick
If you ain't no punk, holler
We want prenup
John Smoltz for Cardinals' closer 2010!!
by jd is legend on Oct 28, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I personally wouldn't get a prenup
But I also not super rich.
by FlimtotheFlam on Oct 28, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
well yeah if you are just moderately rich like flim then there is no need to...
Chicago Cubs: The first century was funny...this second one is just sad...
how are them padres....
http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20080623/news_1s23sullivan.html
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
um, hal, it's videotape, not Linux.
Mozeliak acknowledged Monday his desire for more enthusiastic use of video as an instructional tool. While assistant hitting coach Mike Aldrete used video, McRae remained less comfortable with the technology. Mozeliak also did not discount concerns about McRae’s ability to reach some of the team’s younger hitters, such as center fielder Colby Rasmus and shortstop Brendan Ryan.
and really? you can’t think of anything disappointing this year? everything hunky-dory?
“Each year is different,” McRae said. “To pinpoint differences, I can’t do that. You sort of start over each year because each season has its own challenges. I didn’t consider this year frustrating. We had a great six to eight weeks where we built a big lead. The last 20 games we weren’t so good. Overall it was a good year. We just had a bad stretch at the wrong time.”
I have no faith that hitting coaches do anything, but at least they shouldn’t embarrass the team. when people report you’re “uncomfortable” with video and you don’t see anything wrong with a team where hardly anyone hit above average and the walk rate dropped like a brick, it’s time for you to take up golf as a full-time hobby.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
Dammit McRae
From August 7 to September 9, we never lost ground to the second-place team in the division (It was the Cubs the whole time). During that stretch we went 25-6. We scored 4.97 runs per game in that stretch. The team scored 4.51 runs per game over the whole season. On the other hand, we allowed a mere 2.94 runs per game in the 31-game stretch, compared to 3.95 runs per game over the whole season. The extra .46 runs per game was helpful, no doubt, but not nearly as much so as the dominant (and timely) pitching we received in that stretch.
John Smoltz for Cardinals' closer 2010!!
by jd is legend on Oct 28, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
damn you
and your use of facts. baseball has no use of objective facts. it is a sport that relies on gut instiinct and feeling. ask the umpire who in his heart felt that swisher left the bag early. or the angels manager starting their worst starting pitcher 2x in the LCS.
this is precisely why I would counter all the "we can't measure how a hitting coach works"
with we CAN and SHOULD measure how a coach doesn’t work.
Paying attention to what players say… and do not say… does figure into it, especially if the quotes are over time and repeated. Such as: yes, Adam Wainwright corrected his mechanics because of Chris Carpenter, not Dave Duncan. He credited Duncan mostly for the mental aspect and the game-plan. That’s kind of factual, even if there are no stats behind it. Every source said the same thing, repeatedly, since May.
As with all subjective statements, one has to interpret the data, but if there’s frequency + consistency, it’s probably good enough to throw the bones with.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
"with we CAN and SHOULD measure how a coach doesn’t work"
Money quote…and pretty much a universal life fact.
Life is way to abstract and random to say what “works”, however, it’s pretty easy to list up what doesn’t work. You can learn more from a guy that wrote a book called “how I lost a million dollars” than you can learn from a guy that wrote “how I made a million dollars”.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
See, every season is different. And there are no differences between seasons.
Has Hal McRae decided to stop talking about the past?
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
If he can't even work a vcr than McRae should absoutely be fired
I think a hitting coach should have pitching reports on every single pitcher we could face. When combined with a pitch/fx system you should be able to make a remix of what likely a pitcher will pitch to you in each given count. They need someone with mad database and video editing skills.
I always thought teams should give each player a laptop with videos they need to study especially while on the team plane and in between games that is updated regularly. I would write a program after every single game and I mean not just the Cardinals. Than break down the entire game into clips of each pitch matched with a pitch/fx. It would really mean moving the team into the 21st century.
by FlimtotheFlam on Oct 28, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
VCR's - how about late 20th century?
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
paragraph #2
it is my understanding a lot — if not most — teams do this, only with ipods.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
that is what i assumed but after hearing in no vcr hal
i wasnt so sure anymore
by FlimtotheFlam on Oct 28, 2009 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm thinking that's why Aldrete kept his job.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
I know that some teams do, but I don't think it's a majority
I know some scouts have every MLSB video downloaded to their iPhone so they are handy if a guy’s name comes up in conversation.
This has been Aldrete's deal forever
The Cardinals also employ a video technician that puts together cuts for each player and pitcher that the players can use for analysis.
I don’t expect McGwire to know how to operate a high end video system like that. I expect him to be able to use it to teach guys how to become better hitters or to show them where their swing has changed and why that might have led to a slump.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
We don't need McGwire to do the grunt work of compiling the data
We just need McGwire to utilize the tools he has available to him and actually work at his freaking job, instead of shoot-the-shits at the batting cage.
Don't argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. - anon.
As long as John Smoltz is back
we will be unbeatable. I assume.
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
Don't forget Lugo
Boston is picking up the contract, so teams won’t see money as a barrier, just talent. Wait for a ST or early season injury for a team to come calling.
not a bad idea. lugo's value is in the sexy stats that people pick up on easily.
if he has a hot spring, he could be worth something. not sure that jarrett hoffpauir isn’t pretty much the same player.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
Trade for Milton Bradley!
He’s not a bad guy . The Cards could probably get him cheap and I’m sure he’ll bounce back!
/sarcasm
Sorry, I’m a Cubs fan and I wouldn’t wish Milton Bradley on any team, even the Cardinals. In all honesty, since there’s flexibility in the Cards payroll and I think that this year we’ll really see effects of the depressed economy, I’d bet they’ll be able to get some free agent steals.
www.fivetoolfans.com
if the cubs paid a good chunk of his salary, I'd take him.
he was not the cubs biggest problems this year, nor did he rank in the top 5 biggest problems on the team.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
I'm pretty sure you're not the only one who'd take him, but...
I think Jim Hendry is going to be stubborn and take a player who’s essentially worthless in exchange, as long as he doesn’t have to pick up MB’s salary. It’s too soon to tell how the new ownership in Chicago will affect that situation.
www.fivetoolfans.com
the media would go hoppin' crazy like a chicken split up the middle
They wouldn’t know what to do with two big-name recluses with complicated histories.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
They'd end up being best friends.
You know they would.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"like a chicken split up the middle" is officially my least favorite similie of the week.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
and yet it is entirely descriptive of stl media.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
definitely vivid. excruciatingly so.
mind you, i didn’t say “inaccurate.”
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
I'm just not sure a chicken split up the middle could go all that hoppin' crazy
what with his guts all spilled out and all.
www.fivetoolfans.com
that's the one.
I suppose I was going for more of the shearing force of hopping around
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
who's the other one?
kaheel? he’ll be gone, surely
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
i wouldn't mind bradley
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
I'd rather have Bradley than Hendry.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
So what's the general consensus about the game tonight?
Other than that we hate both teams.
Predictions? Yankees are favored, but not by much. I think the Phillies lefties will have a tough time against CC, although they did tag him for 5 ERs in last year’s NLDS.
Yanks may also have an advantage because they’ve faced C Lee many times, and the Phils haven’t seen CC this year.
Maybe I’m just wishful thinking. I really hate the Phillies.
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
phuck the phillies.
fangraph article said the yanks offense is so good the gap is comparable to phillies/astros.
like the article said, anything can happen in a series, but the yanks are good. very good.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
I want the Phillies to win.
But both options suck.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
I think that if both starting pitchers are on
Yankees have the advantage. The Phillies best hitters are left-handed and Sabathia will be able to better take advantage of that platoon split.
Personally, I want the Yankees to lose; I guess that means the Phillies have to win.
www.fivetoolfans.com
CC can start his playoff meltdown anytime.
I’m patiently waiting. It’s ticking me off.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Jayson. Werth.
Offseason Rumors : Me :: Unicorn Blood : Voldemort
by Cardinals645 on Oct 28, 2009 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I just want seven games.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
Me too
I’m rooting for a 2001-esque WS more than anything.
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
4 game sweep
by Phillies. Don’t want the Yankees to win the first year in their new stadium like we did. Would like to see the billion-dollar bench get crushed every game, blow out style 2-3 hr’s each game.
by from First to Third on Oct 28, 2009 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions
There could be lots and lots of dingers in this series
When you consider both of those lineups and the stadium each one plays in, I’m starting to wonder if they’re going to set some kind of record.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
As long as they hit em right handed
I’m ok with the result
by from First to Third on Oct 28, 2009 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions
sucks to be an Indians fan
CC v Lee
that’s gotta be tough to stomach
"There's a lot of things we say that don't make sense to our viewers. Okay, primarily me." ~Al Hrabosky~
by YesWeOquendo on Oct 28, 2009 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Victor martinez is a red sock.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
And Hafner sucks now.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
Carmona is your "ace"
And now a scene from seinfeld
ELAINE: [mind] Who does this guy think he is?
KEITH: [mind] I'm Keith Hernandez.
I know.
It just doesn’t hurt as much. It makes me angry but not sad. Because he’s still an Indian. Even if he sucks.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Thanks.
I cried for days about that I hope you know. Bawled while driving to get dinner that night.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Peralta sucks, too.
And Cabrera peaked too early.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
I think you're wrong about Cabrera.
And manny Acta has already said he is going to give Jhonny a talking to.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Just think Trevor Crowe.
That should make you feel a little better.
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
Hmm
He makes me feel better, and I’m not even an Indians fan.
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
Why is cheering for the opposite team of your friends a way to avoid smack talk?
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
SBN'ed.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Oct 29, 2009 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh, just saw below.
I was worried because I am rooting for the opposite team of my friend and I thought maybe you were a double agent.
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
Trevor Who
And now a scene from seinfeld
ELAINE: [mind] Who does this guy think he is?
KEITH: [mind] I'm Keith Hernandez.
Indians' first round draft pick a few years back.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trevor_Crowe
I’m partial to him because my brother played baseball against him in high school, and then we went to college together, where I saw him steal home during a game.
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
that's cool
hopefully he remembers you, and sends you tickets from time to time.
And now a scene from seinfeld
ELAINE: [mind] Who does this guy think he is?
KEITH: [mind] I'm Keith Hernandez.
sucks to be grammatically challenged too
“that’s”
/self-disgust
"There's a lot of things we say that don't make sense to our viewers. Okay, primarily me." ~Al Hrabosky~
by YesWeOquendo on Oct 28, 2009 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm missing something.
I don’t see a grammatical error. “That has” = “that’s.” Right?
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
I don't think you're supposed to contract has that way.
Besides: That’s = That is != That has.
Offseason Rumors : Me :: Unicorn Blood : Voldemort
by Cardinals645 on Oct 28, 2009 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions
http://esl.about.com/od/grammarintermediate/a/contractions.htm
That’s-That is / has-Example: That’s been on my mind lately. OR That’s why I can’t come.
by brackenthebox on Oct 29, 2009 6:50 AM EDT up reply actions
it's correct, not dhut up and stop being a big babey
And now a scene from seinfeld
ELAINE: [mind] Who does this guy think he is?
KEITH: [mind] I'm Keith Hernandez.
Whichever foot is non-dominant.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
If not Holliday (clean-up hitter)
do you take a serious look at Figgins to improve the production in the 2 hole? I’m not extremely high on this move, but it could make sense. Batting the pitcher 8th, then having Ryan, Schumaker, and Figgins ahead of Pujols, could mean more RBI opportunities for Pujols. Also, we’d have to depend on a bounce-back year from Ludwick. If you can’t improve/keep #4, I think you must improve #2.
well then they could go all dodgers on us
ludwick is good but he’s not oh no I’m facing ryan ludwick next , What ever will I do I can’t walk Pujols?
And now a scene from seinfeld
ELAINE: [mind] Who does this guy think he is?
KEITH: [mind] I'm Keith Hernandez.
true
but no one but Holliday will prevent that. Heck, even Holliday himself couldn’t prevent it in the NLDS. Bay is the second best option, and I don’t feel he’s a much better option than Ludwick. I think if you can have 3 .340+ OBP type guys ahead of Pujols, you will either increase his opportunities or at least keep his opportunites stable. With guys consistantly on 1st and 2rd, they can’t constantly walk Pujols to load the bases… atleast not during the regular season. They can get away with doing it in the playoffs obviously, but we’ve got to make it there first.
"even Holliday himself couldn’t prevent it in the NLDS"
They wouldn't walk Pujols so much
if Bob Abreu was on base 40% of the time in front of him.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
This may be true
but I would cringe at all the doubles down the right field line that turn into triples, as well as every runner going first to third on a single to right. He’s pretty awful defensively.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
Which is why I hope we would stick him in LF
John Smoltz for Cardinals' closer 2010!!
by jd is legend on Oct 28, 2009 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions
But Ludwick is in RF.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
I would bet that Luddy would get moved to LF
Abreu has always played RF.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
No
Figgins is 32, relies on speed, and really doesn’t get on base all that well. He’s an average fielder at 3B and he’s going to cost a shitload of money for what he actually produces.
If you’re not signing Holliday because you don’t want to pay him $18M in his age 36 season, why would you pay Figgins $14 in his age 38 season?
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
And Chone's too short.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
I agree that we need a Glaus or (*sob, sniffle*) Rolen-sized man out there at the hot corner
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
"really doesn’t get on base all that well."
what? dude walked 101 times last year.
Agree, he’s going to be overpaid, but a .395 OBP with speed batting second, with rasmus leading off and ryan 9th, is probably the only way Albert will ever break hack wilson’s RBI record.
it's Clydesdales vs Goats. Actually sums up Cards vs. Cubs quite nicely. -all4tookie
You really think he's going to be able to keep up a 14.1% walk rate?
He can’t hit the ball out of the ballpark, so why wouldn’t pitcher’s challenge him, especially if he’s batting in front of Albert. His career OBP is around .367 and he only has two seasons above that mark in his career. His OBP was higher than his SLG last year, how often in the history of baseball has that happened?
He drew 101 walks this year after drawing no more than 60 in any previous season, and his speed allows him to have a very high BABIP nearly every year (look at his Infield Hit Percentage). If he loses his ability to leg out base hits in the infield, he’s going to become a below average player in a hurry, and he’s 32 years old and will be 33 next season. The track record just isn’t good, unless you think he’s Ichiro.
I think he’s peaked as a player, and will only go downward from here.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
solid reasoning
if money were no object, I’d love him as a super-Dero, off-the-bench, jack-of-all-trades type…but that’s not the case.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
i remember reading somewhere
that players with figgins skill set actually age pretty well. Wish I could remember where because I remember thinking to myself “no f’n way,” but, sadly there is too much clogging my brain to remember.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Yes, I recall something like this as well.
It was an article confronting the cliche that speedsters and MIs don’t age well.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
Records which shall never be broken:
Yadi2Second’s most popular fanpost.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
how do you feel about being in 2nd place ?
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
Ever the bridesmaid.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
it's a community effort
i’m more impressed dcfcblues called it.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
WORLD SERIES
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
If Holliday leaves, I'd like him to remember these words"
Nowhere else will you get a standing ovation the day after dropping a ball that would have tied a playoff series at 1-1.
Please remember that when you go to LA or NY and they’re booing you for an 0-10 slump. It’s what you wanted, remember?
On with the (good) youth movement!
by aet15 on Oct 28, 2009 7:27 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I don't usually put a whole lot of stock in the BFIB thing
But yeah, that was a pretty nice gesture by the fans.
all the baby pictures of the players must be prime blackmail material
not to mention, man, what happened….
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
holy shit, Ozzie Guillen LIVE.
hahahahahahaha
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Ozzie says fuck that shit.
well not really.
he picks the Phils.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Yadi...
just a heads up, but I was perusing the Glossary, and your link to the PD under luggage is dead.
"Everyone in here comes to the yard ready to play every day. I’ll take this group, any day until the day I die."
"This whole Cardinals thing.....I don’t know if you guys are a believer, but I’m a believer."
~ Ryan Fucking Ludwick
yes, I know
there’s no way for me to find it again, because I don’t remember the headline → no Google cache.
and you know how bad P-D is.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Indeed,
Just wasn’t sure if you knew.
"Everyone in here comes to the yard ready to play every day. I’ll take this group, any day until the day I die."
"This whole Cardinals thing.....I don’t know if you guys are a believer, but I’m a believer."
~ Ryan Fucking Ludwick
I usually know
but then I forget.
so it cancels out.
thanks for the headsup
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
aha
nice. that merits a credit on the glossary. thanks!
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2009 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
dude, Phils get some *awesome* Star Wars Empire theme
I would dig that.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
the Yankees are the Republic?
what the irony
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
did A-Rod just get introduced to the Princess Leia theme?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
FYI...
… for anybody not wanting to watch Yanks/Phils, Game 1 of the 1968 Series (Gibby on the hill) is on MLB Network.
I don't like how
that series ended.
"Everyone in here comes to the yard ready to play every day. I’ll take this group, any day until the day I die."
"This whole Cardinals thing.....I don’t know if you guys are a believer, but I’m a believer."
~ Ryan Fucking Ludwick
Trade Value
I posted this a couple months ago
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
/pimping my shit
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Yogi's got the ladiez
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
so
i guess i’ve decided i want the phillies to win
they’re not the yankees and they represent the nl, so, there ya go
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
Ditto
Also I don’t want the Yanks to win a championship the first year in their new stadium. That’s so 2006. ;)
Pulling for the Yankees, I think.
I have more friends that are Phillies fans than I do friends that are Yankees fan.
Therefore, to avoid smack talk, I have to pull for Yankees. But really I wanted the Cardinals, and then the Twins.
Offseason Rumors : Me :: Unicorn Blood : Voldemort
by Cardinals645 on Oct 28, 2009 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions
hey!
i wanted the cardinals too!
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Yes, the main point of that was the Twins
Because I don’t know anyone here in Ca that like them.
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by Cardinals645 on Oct 28, 2009 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions
just messin'
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
a bunt.
not that great either. innnnteresting.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
ohoho. innnnnnterestttting.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
damn!
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
boooo
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
lee is nasty
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
Cliff Lee kind of just looks confused on the mound.
The hitters are the same.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
he's confused
at why there’s a $200MM windmill in the batters’ box
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Oct 28, 2009 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Pj
That’s fucking beautiful.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 29, 2009 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions
So,
are the Phillies the left foot or the right foot?
is it raining?
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
yeah, id say
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
Which suggests a perfect end to this season:
Forty days and forty nights of rain.
Steinbrenner’s Palace is dismantled and the materials used to build an ark.
And no more baseball in NYC or Philly until the flood waters recede.
by StanTheManFan on Oct 28, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think that's a bad article actually
it’s not very statistically savvy, and I don’t think I particularly agree with most of it, but in the great scheme of things it ain’t too bad and it does raise some interesting points here and there. My only issue with it is the use of the word “innovativeness”, which I think sounds stupid, instead of “Innovation”. Ugh.
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Oct 30, 2009 4:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Hey Flim.....
thanks.
"Everyone in here comes to the yard ready to play every day. I’ll take this group, any day until the day I die."
"This whole Cardinals thing.....I don’t know if you guys are a believer, but I’m a believer."
~ Ryan Fucking Ludwick
Why are there five rest stops between...
NY and PHI? It’s 100 miles. Gotta be graft.
MB for LF in 2010!
Because it takes 7 hours to drive it
John Smoltz for Cardinals' closer 2010!!
by jd is legend on Oct 29, 2009 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Phils strike first
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
i wish we had two.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
I'd settle for Werth.
Since that was actually possible more recently. He signed in Philadelphia for less than a million for 2007. Tell me he would look nice in LF. And we’d still have Walrus, in theory.
Offseason Rumors : Me :: Unicorn Blood : Voldemort
by Cardinals645 on Oct 28, 2009 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions
he's look nice in lf
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
I remember back when nobody but I appreciated him.
Defending him from unappreciative Dodgers fans, back in the DePodesta days.
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by Cardinals645 on Oct 28, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I know I'm late but
I am so grateful to Fox that I know now how many rest stops are in between New York and Philadelphia.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Just in case Steve Phillips is watching.
by Tom_Lawless_Bat_Flip on Oct 28, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions
oh, he knows.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
why
is rick ankiel every hitter in the yankees lineup?
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
I wish he had been ANY hitter in the Yankees lineup.
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by Cardinals645 on Oct 28, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions
sure
i just don’t want them facing cliff lee
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
So my Halloween costume is a ski bunny.
I have a winter hat like this:
without the thing on the top,
hat or no?
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Do I make a tail and ears?
Or is that going too far?
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
hmmm
depends on what else is involved in the outfit, I’d say
by peach concrete on Oct 28, 2009 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly
If you’re going to be mostly inside, it might be too hot with the hat. But it’s awfully cute.
by peach concrete on Oct 28, 2009 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Ski Bunny
Yet more proof that you can Google just about anything with safe search off, and the images will contain porn.
You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the goddamn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all.
-- Earl Weaver
by Smokin Turkeys on Oct 28, 2009 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions
haha
You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the goddamn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all.
-- Earl Weaver
by Smokin Turkeys on Oct 28, 2009 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions
True fact.
Trying to find ideas for what to wear was impossible.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Oct 28, 2009 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions
is that the your entire Halloween outfit?
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Oct 28, 2009 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
oy, let's not scare the women who do visit the boards off, guys.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
I was confused, not trying to be crude
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Oct 28, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
i thought it was a quote
from steve phillips
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I have been called a lot of things
but never anything quite that bad
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Oct 28, 2009 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
not yet
I like my OJ and some carrots, but really, how the fuck does one get that orange?
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Oct 28, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions
one hopes that's not what she said
but who knows, these days….
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 28, 2009 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
oh, definitely
that’s what she said
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Cheetos ... lots and lots of Cheetos
But it’s totally worth it.
Don't argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. - anon.
why don't you just go as Rasmus Girl?
or Cody? that looks too hot to wear all night
pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels
I was thinking about going as a baseball annie.
But then I didn’t think people would get it.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Oct 28, 2009 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
That's the thing.
Also with the tail and ears, I don’t want to give the wrong impression. I know it’s halloween and all, and girls are allowed to dress like sluts and no one will say anything but I just don’t know.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Oct 28, 2009 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Miley Cyrus' sister has been spotted in two particularly skanky costumes.
And many young girls wear them too. It’s what they see in movies and TV so they think that’s what Halloween means.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Oct 28, 2009 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I took my kids to Trunk Or Treat tonight
There were some cute outfits and then there were some real head shakers.
no, it's about candy, lots & lots of candy
and witches, ghosts, zombies & maybe some demons. but mostly candy. preferably chocolate
pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels
If you replace candy with booze
and add sexy to the front of all those things then maybe… I love the adult version of Halloween.
"The Cards lead this game tied 1-1." -Mike Shannon
i've never gotten to enjoy either version of halloween
so i’m going to run with the candy thing till i get some
pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels
I can think of a couple days where that wouldn't be true...
"The Cards lead this game tied 1-1." -Mike Shannon
Well in that case no...
I was thinking days that had unique events…
"The Cards lead this game tied 1-1." -Mike Shannon
+1
That and St. Patty’s are my two favorite holidays
John Smoltz for Cardinals' closer 2010!!
by jd is legend on Oct 29, 2009 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions
They are blasphemers
If it takes a few ruined 9 year olds so be it, we have turned Halloween into the greatest holiday in the world for adults.
Not afraid to nitpick
Not for little kids.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Oct 29, 2009 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions
i remember my 94 Halloween costume
I wore a White Sox coat out. People asked what I was. I was a baseball player on strike.
by FlimtotheFlam on Oct 29, 2009 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Seems to me
that drinking plus attempting to walk on skis all nite long is a recipe for disaster…
"The Cards lead this game tied 1-1." -Mike Shannon
I didn't drink and I didn't wear skis.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Oct 29, 2009 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions
dear umpires
that’s two outs.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Just a confluence of bad call after bad call this playoffs
I think the GOBs want replay.
I'm like a polygon, I'm edgy.
"OHHHHH!!!!!!! IT TASTES. SO. GOOD!!!!!!!!!!"
-BOOOOOOOOG
good thing they got it right
I'm like a polygon, I'm edgy.
"OHHHHH!!!!!!! IT TASTES. SO. GOOD!!!!!!!!!!"
-BOOOOOOOOG
howard was on the bag
so, dp either way
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
that's almost like three outs
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Chase Utley says fuck this shit
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
chase utley is a fcuking monster
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
Chase Utley
I hope he got my letter.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Oct 28, 2009 9:46 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
101 pitches for cc
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
well, atg
99 according to buck
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
McCarver
“Left fielder isn’t really responsible for a ball hit down the right field line.” Thanks Tim
You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the goddamn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all.
-- Earl Weaver
by Smokin Turkeys on Oct 28, 2009 10:04 PM EDT reply actions
lol, lee
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
Maybe it's because I have the desire to believe in the integrity of sport
but this sounds like sour grapes BS to me.
You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the goddamn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all.
-- Earl Weaver
by Smokin Turkeys on Oct 28, 2009 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
i don't know
This is the whole reason why I could never get into the NBA. I never understood the fouls.
by FlimtotheFlam on Oct 28, 2009 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Donaghy wouldn't name names if there wasn't some merit
You don’t blow up Dick Bavetta like that without knowing it’s true because you’d have a lawsuit shoved up your butt faster than the speed of light.
Not afraid to nitpick
somewhere Carp twitches because the song's taking too long
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
hah, and C. Lee nearly did a Carp at the grounds crew
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 28, 2009 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
like so
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
and so
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
wow, that was terrible
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
LOL YOU'RE NO MOLINA
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Phil Hughes throws out a little "fuck -- - -- - !" to the ump
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Ryan Howard looks like he's regretting some of that lost weight
keep your core temp up
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
My husband just asked me a question that I think I know the answer to.
But maybe not.
If Rollins were to steal home, would Werth get an RBI?
I said No, but now I’m unsure.
no
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Oct 28, 2009 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
my mom asked me the other day what a DH was
she had no idea the AL had them
pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels
well my dad & i only really watched the Cards
and she hasn’t been around her brother who’s the huge Yankee fan, so i can see why that would have slipped through the cracks since she married my dad in the early 70’s
pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels
one was on the corner
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Oct 28, 2009 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
The real question is what type of person would use such a thing...
I ’d hate to go grab a soda and come back to a blank slate…
"The Cards lead this game tied 1-1." -Mike Shannon
I actually do know lots of people who use it
they like it. but then, they write more than I do.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 28, 2009 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
They must have writing styles much different than me
I write best after playing no fewer than 2 hours of video games between good solid thoughts.
"The Cards lead this game tied 1-1." -Mike Shannon
I have been on an old school video game kick
Beat Chrono Trigger, FF3, and now playing Zelda: A Link to the Past
by FlimtotheFlam on Oct 28, 2009 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I keep telling myself next time
I get around to playing video games instead of watching TiVo I’m going to play some Blast Corps… followed by one of the Donkey Kong Country games…
"The Cards lead this game tied 1-1." -Mike Shannon
I just started the original Final Fantasy
Jon Garland did not knock me all down.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
ahaha.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
better luck tomorrow, $200MMs
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
Lee, Carp and Adam on the same team?
swoon
by peach concrete on Oct 28, 2009 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions
OMG
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 28, 2009 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Did he
JIZZ IN HIS PANTS
?
John Smoltz for Cardinals' closer 2010!!
by jd is legend on Oct 29, 2009 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions
well i was trying to be discrete to spare yadi2 from
some embarrassment & the mocking that was sure to follow. but i guess that cats out of the bag now isn’t it?
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and apparently, so was your high powered telescope
also, like I told matty…. wrong house
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
You sure that's egg?
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Oct 30, 2009 5:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Someone was JT from the dick in a box song tonight!
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Cliff Lee is like, y'all took TOO DAMN LONG to score
my turn, fuckers.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
"who says lightning never strikes twice"
uh, no one?
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
WHAT A PIMP
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
Cliff Lee says shucks. fuck this shit.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
they say he runs back to the mound faster than Carp
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 28, 2009 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
You better hope Carp does not read this
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Oct 28, 2009 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions
hmm.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 28, 2009 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions
it's a bit deceptive given the pitching-grimace
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 28, 2009 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Lee Bio
Lee soldiered on with various unimpressive line-ups that did little to buoy the Love reputation. From there, he went mostly batshit crazy, constantly displaying erratic behaviour and having several brush-ups with johnny law. In 1996 he was finally incarcerated for six years on firearms offences. Conviction overturned in 2001, Lee got his shit together and started playing out again under a new Love banner, played a series of successful shows, and was able to see the band’s reputation restored
al
because i’m used to him
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Oct 28, 2009 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
is this a cage match?
tell me it’s a cage match
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 28, 2009 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
We should just leave the lock on the door
and the problem will take care of itself soon enough.
"The Cards lead this game tied 1-1." -Mike Shannon
That's...what...
she? said?
John Smoltz for Cardinals' closer 2010!!
by jd is legend on Oct 29, 2009 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Are we voting for who to take out first?
If so my answer is carpet bombing… the innocents taken out in the effort will be well worth it.
"The Cards lead this game tied 1-1." -Mike Shannon
by ducttape16 on Oct 28, 2009 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
So why doesn't Cliff Lee tie the laces on the thumb thingy of his glove?
Why even have them? It’s a custom glove.
probably superstition
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 28, 2009 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
it's stylish
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Oct 28, 2009 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
you know I just realized
MLB Trade Rumors linked to this post.
….I hope they weren’t expecting baseball.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
they're
probably just as hard up for material as everyone else
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Oct 28, 2009 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I should post my crap, even though it's crap...
might get a better audience.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 28, 2009 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions
yanks
are getting embarrassed. i approve
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
Victorino can't slide
exchanges some words with posie
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
I wish that badass montage were for Carp.
but it’s his own fault, sigh.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
hey, I missed that DeRo had his surgery Monday
hope it was rosy.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
nope
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 28, 2009 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions
at the end of it they make it sound like it's a foregone conclusion he's not coming back
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that's good outfield coverage.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
get ready, the most epic come back in WS history is about to happen
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no worries, gdm's like a ken doll down there
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by gdm426 on Oct 28, 2009 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I was gonna say
f’in gdm, but you may have just put an end to that meme
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Oct 28, 2009 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Why have you been looking "down there" on Ken dolls?
That’s a bit disturbing if you ask me…
"The Cards lead this game tied 1-1." -Mike Shannon
hey, i don't diss your extracurricular activities
and i’ll thank you not to piss all over mine
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and you.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 28, 2009 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm not here to talk about the past
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by gdm426 on Oct 28, 2009 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
dude, he's elevating.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
JRoll.... you're no Boog.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
-1
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 28, 2009 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
Boom, roasted.
BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
by vexedtechie on Oct 28, 2009 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions
what does that even mean?
and are those avocados in your fridge?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 28, 2009 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, but only Pinkerton Avocados.
…never a Hass.
BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
by vexedtechie on Oct 28, 2009 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions
oho
clever
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 28, 2009 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions
howard could've caught that
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
why is cliff lee
still in the game he’s at 113 pitches and you’re leading 6-0. take him out
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
because K.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 28, 2009 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Because Cliff may break someone's face if he's taken out.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
did A-Rod break Fox?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
surprising outcome
for game 1
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
Cliff Lee looks like he can't believe there's not more baseball
so he can mess up more hitters. shucks.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Cliff Lee is never nervous.
it’s just the World Series. I’m just a working guy. This is fun. This executing stuff, and fucking up hitters. Shucks.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Don't you mean MooHooooo!
BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
by vexedtechie on Oct 28, 2009 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
brilliant
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Oct 28, 2009 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions
My understanding is that I only get cupcakes when the Yankees win.
by peach concrete on Oct 28, 2009 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions
cool
I could use one right about now.
by peach concrete on Oct 28, 2009 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Then get your ass in the kitchen and make enough for all of us!
BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
by vexedtechie on Oct 28, 2009 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions
interesting
I didn’t realize that about vt
by peach concrete on Oct 29, 2009 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions
while most of us are blogging from our mom's basements,
he’s blogging from his mom’s (redacted) dugeon
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his mom has a castle?
does it have a moat?
by peach concrete on Oct 29, 2009 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm assuming it's guacamole
made from healthy and delicious Haas avocados.
by peach concrete on Oct 29, 2009 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Better than a man stew joke...
You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the goddamn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all.
-- Earl Weaver
by Smokin Turkeys on Oct 29, 2009 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Man
I must really not understand the real reason behind the avocados boycott.
Forget I said anything!
by peach concrete on Oct 29, 2009 3:42 AM EDT up reply actions
no, i just love the man stew stuff
probably way more than i should.
i could go either way on the avocado’s. i was actually jonesing for some good guoc late last night. i might be having mexican for dinner in a little bit & it would be great with my bro in law’s guoc
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Woomoo?
John Smoltz for Cardinals' closer 2010!!
by jd is legend on Oct 29, 2009 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Cholly talks OBP
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Cliff Lee is all... yeah... winning is important. yup. uh.... yeah. it's good.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Cliff Lee patiently explains How to Pitch
all the while looking like… you’re…. really asking me this?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2009 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions
he said he felt *too* fresh
but surprise, he wasn’t rusty. at all. shucks.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 29, 2009 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Because he didn't want to challenge the sportscasters
to have to wrap their heads around the concept of a 1c when describing our pitching staff… he’s really a humanitarian that Mo…
"The Cards lead this game tied 1-1." -Mike Shannon
O.T.
I have high hopes for the new Say Anything album.
“Eloise” is awesome.
Anyone here even know Say Anything?
You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the goddamn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all.
-- Earl Weaver
by Smokin Turkeys on Oct 29, 2009 12:35 AM EDT reply actions
Cliff Lee
sorry for McCarver’s cackling
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
I think DeRosa is gone
Why bring back a guy who’s offensive numbers were worse than Skip’s? There a lot of guys out there that can do that for a lot less money. Skip had more RBI’s, Doubles, a higher average and 4 HR’s compared to DeRosa’s 10. Seems to me you go for a bat in the outfield, maybe two. Maybe get a discount pitcher for Ludwick. I’d be okay with that.
Skip had 10 HR last season?
That was under the radar, unless your info is wrong.
John Smoltz for Cardinals' closer 2010!!
by jd is legend on Oct 29, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry I looked
at the wrong stats….I still don’t think DeRosa is worth it.
I didn’t look at his AL side of the season…my bad.
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