Lidge, La Russa
Is it weird that I don't blame the Dodgers? Usually I'm a little more vengeful toward teams that eliminate the Cardinals—though admittedly that was last the Hated Astros—and that's always thrown a wrench into my plan to be a traditional fan and root for God, Country, and National League in the postseason. But this time? Well, our bad, guys. (As I wrote this the Dodgers grounded into the end of an inning with the bases loaded, which might mean this whole postseason-disaster thing is catching. [Did the Cardinals get it from the 2006 Tigers?]) If it is related, in some way, I fear for Clayton Kershaw.
So is Brad Lidge a hero again? If I have learned one thing from my hundred of simulated years as a GM in Baseball Mogul, it's this: I don't know anything about relievers. It's gotten to where I have begun making stupid, inside-baseball moves despite knowing, intellectually, that I am playing against a heartless, gritless computer; I'm always ready to trade a prospect or two for an Experienced Reliever who (more importantly) has been good for more than two years in a row, even if he's rated the same as my young, cost-controlled set-up man who keeps giving up home runs.
Lidge looked fine tonight; same hard fastball, same almost-always-out-of-the-zone slider. I think in the end 2008 is going to be the season that looks like the blip—it's not that he got it back that year, just that his surprise home run drought masked the command and the extraordinary strikeout power he's lost from 2004, one of the great relief seasons of all time. He's not really a guy with an ERA of 7.21 either, but his perfect 2008 was in no way a return to form.
Right now La Russa Watch 2009 seems to be sliding back toward the status quo. I've said this a few times in the comments, but let me reiterate it here: I love Tony La Russa. If I were the GM of the Cardinals he would have to... I don't know, beat the crap out of my dog or something before I even considered the idea that somebody else could manage the team. And he wouldn't do that!
I don't think Mozeliak is quite so gung ho about it, but I'm happy to hear that it's come down not to Dave Duncan's feelings or the organization's inexorable move toward the new guard but Tony La Russa's desire to keep managing. I realize, in the end, that managerial preference, past the surface things—in which La Russa is often infuriating—is subjective, but let me try to get deeper than that.
I like that I don't think Tony La Russa is stupid. Some managers—I'm not going to name names—have the same (or worse) half-cocked understanding of how runs are scored, but I can't see most of them working through it in their head; it's like received wisdom that white guys who make a lot of contact belong in the second spot, that good defensive catchers can't hit. In the end Tony makes some of the same mistakes his braindead counterparts go in for, but he does it after a process that seems to follow some rationale, some logic. The worst managers, in their post-gamers, make me concerned about the problem of Other Minds; with La Russa it is apparent from the start that there is some thoughtful, infuriating, relatively consistent consciousness behind his lineup cards and experiments.
I've also gotten fond of his willingness to improvise over the years. Consider this: he's been managing for longer than any non-owner who ever lived, and just in the last two years we have had a converted reliever-for-life in the rotation, a converted outfielder-for-life at second base, and pitchers who hit eighth. He's not perfect, in that regard: he may have stuck with Joe Thurston at third for too long; he played Rick Ankiel, who, and I'm not saying but I'm just saying, did have an OPS+ of 120 in 650 plate appearances before last year; and once he's gotten good results out of an experiment (Wellemeyer?) he's loath to give up on it. But in 31 years he's not ossified yet; he's still making moves few other managers would make.
Eventually the Cardinals will have to find another manager, and the longer La Russa lasts the weirder that change of organizational philosophy is going to get. But I don't see any reason, right now, to expedite matters.
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One of Tony's most valuable attributes
IMO, is that Pujols seems to really like playing for him. If LaRussa were to be “encouraged” by the organization, due to some variance in philosophy, to leave, this might be a primary factor in Albert turning down an extension and looking elsewhere.
I live in CA’s central valley and don’t run into many Cardinals fans. When people find out that I root for the Redbirds, they often ask me “what do you think of LaRussa?” Most people out here, for some reason, don’t like him. I always tell them that sometimes he makes moves with which I disagree or stubbornly sticks with guys who suck, but that his positive effect on the team seems to outweigh the bad stuff. As Buck Martinez repeatedly (and self-servingly, as a former manager) said many times on last night’s broadcast, the manager can come up with a game plan but it’s up to the players to execute. When it comes right down to it, I’m not sure how much impact the manager really has on the outcome of a game, but I think it’s less than most people believe.
by lawman3842 on Oct 16, 2009 7:15 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
LaRussa
I have always defended LaRussa and I guess I will continue to do so. I also don’t mind LaRussa as a manager. I still remember the Torre years and how the team turned around from complete malaise to a playoff team under LaRussa’s leadership.
I disagree with his moves at times, but I still trust him as a manager and I don’t think there are a ton of other options out there.
by graffin on Oct 16, 2009 8:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Joe
Torre would have had some success in St. Louis, I think, with the new owners philosophy of getting better players starting in 1996, he hasn’t had near as many good position players available to him compared to TLR’s St. Louis run.
"How can a Mexican lose the ball in the sun" ? Harry Caray
by bigchieftootiemontana on Oct 16, 2009 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i've seen no evidence that torre can win with good players
by brackenthebox on Oct 16, 2009 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
should have said
Torre didn’t have the quality of players in St. Louis that LaRussa has had
"How can a Mexican lose the ball in the sun" ? Harry Caray
by bigchieftootiemontana on Oct 16, 2009 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still don't buy the manager affects players ability
or ever will until it’s proven empirically….but 98-99 yanks had good players.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
by rocKStark5 on Oct 16, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes, I was being facetious
Until succesful managers move jobs with greater frequency, I don’t think there’s any way to figure out what, if any impact, a manager has on his team.
by brackenthebox on Oct 16, 2009 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
my bad
i thought you were implying the yanks epic fail in the 2000s with such good teams.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
by rocKStark5 on Oct 16, 2009 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
tlr
is not a dumb guy alright, but he is also not always the smartest guy in the room. he doesn’t take it kindly, however, if someone mentions that. too often he seems intent on demonstrating his superiority by going against basics, particularly when he seems to be playing with psyches.
overall, however, his (or any mangers) biggest impact on the team is that he decides who plays. by that i mean his idea of winning baseball, what constitutes a good approach at the plate, what gets you brownie points (so don’t need to run to first hard), etc. have a heck of a lot to do with how the team plays.
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
by sportsman on Oct 16, 2009 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
To be fair, DanUp,
confronting the Problem of Other Minds becomes necessary when dealing with management in any arena.
Dusty Baker is just professional baseball’s version of Michael Scott, without all the “did he just say that?”-style sexual harassment … at least as far as we know.
by arch support on Oct 16, 2009 8:42 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He does still have a history of dumb comments though...
Can’t sell the man short.
"The Cards lead this game tied 1-1." -Mike Shannon
by ducttape16 on Oct 16, 2009 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
TLR as Pool Player
LaRussa reminds me of a pool player, at least in the vein of the guys I played with back in college. I was a slop shooter. I had an OK understanding of the game, but I loved taking hard angle shots and weird combinations. Thing is, I was good at making them, but without necessarily the ability to replicate them game to game.
Tony reminds me of the juniors and seniors who were so good at the basics of the game, that they wouldn’t play against a lesser player straight up. They would always be working on their feel for the hard shots, and they would pass up straight shots to improve the rest of their game.
During the regular season at least, LaRussa likes to tinker with his lineups, run bizzare plays, and test out the capabilities of his players, rather than necessarily getting bogged down on individual wins or losses. He can still get stuck overusing players, both his best and his worst, but other than the odd nepotistic move, I never get the feeling that he’s doing it for a reason other than getting or keeping his players sharp.
Duncan also reminds me of those pool players; however, he reminds me of the guys that would fixate on a certain way of shooting. Again, I don’t know if they were just working on their game, but they would screw up perfectly good shots by putting too much English on it, and did it consistently. Sure, they could take some breaks you were sure couldn’t have anything made of them, and reel off remarkable shot after shot, but then they’d try too hard and gimp themselves for the rest of a game.
For both of those guys, the aggravation of the occassional apparently bone-headed decision excessively overshadows the regular brilliance which they apply to this game of ours. All other things being equal, I’ll take real students of the game over the slop shooters any day.
On the topic of Pujols desire to play for LaRussa, I see it as just another supporting reason for keeping Tony, rather than the only one. LaRussa is never going to be frustrating enough to justify dumping him (and a good portion of his staff) for the opportunity either to have to overpay for Albert to keep him or to watch him walk for the same or less money that the FO would offer him. Albert has to be a (if not the) primary consideration in the retention or hiring of on field management for the foreseeable future.
Don't argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. - anon.
by Solanus on Oct 16, 2009 9:12 AM EDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
In some ways I agree with you
I think though when it comes down to it in the playoffs. LaRussa puts his best lineup out their and does whatever gives him the best shot at winning. I absolutely agree with you that LaRussa loves to tinker with his lineups to see what works best. He always seems to be trying to figure out the best lineup.
by FlimtotheFlam on Oct 16, 2009 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if he really did that, Smoltzy would have started game 3
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by gdm426 on Oct 17, 2009 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As Churchill said about democracy. . .
so I feel about LaRussa.
He’s the worst manager there is, except for all the others.
The guy grives me crazy with his mind games, ability to put players in the doghouse, Dave Duncan’s warts, temper tantrums, scrappy veteran addiction, in-game decisions, etc., etc., ad infinitum, but. . .
Other than guys who have gotten into his doghouse, players love to play for him, with a few exceptions, I think his players play hard for him, and with a few exceptions (like this last Dodger series), I think there is no one better at coming up with a single-game game plan in games that “really matter” than TLR. Oddly, I also think he’s one of those guys who is a better manager when his team is not expected to win than when his team is the favorite.
Also, with whom are you going to replace him? I think that most assume that Jose Oquendo is the heir apparent, but the devil you know is often better than the angel that you think you know.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Oct 16, 2009 10:27 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Replacement manager
If LaRussa were to decide to leave or hang them up, Joe Maddon of the Rays is probably the first and last choice to take over. He is a hometown guy, and reportedly would take the job in a heartbeat.
Wouldnt be too bad of a thing for TLR to rejoin Jocketty in Cincinnati and take Duncan with him. Those young Reds pitchers would be much better off apart from the hands of Dusty Baker.
by backtocali on Oct 16, 2009 10:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What do you mean by "hometown guy"?
Is he from this part of the country or something? Or are you using a different meaning?
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Oct 16, 2009 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The always-trustworthy internet says he grew up a Cards fan in Pennsylvania
Maddon was more of a fan of the St. Louis Cardinals growing up in Hazelton, however.
by brackenthebox on Oct 16, 2009 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He is a freind of one of my relatives
They speak a few times a year and have traveled together in the past.
Recently they spoke of the Cards job and Maddon said that he would be interested if offered.
by backtocali on Oct 16, 2009 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is very cool
I had no idea he had any Cardinals connections.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Oct 16, 2009 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Being interested is much different
than taking it in a heart beat… but these ideas intrigue me and I’d like to subscribe to your newsletter.
"The Cards lead this game tied 1-1." -Mike Shannon
by ducttape16 on Oct 16, 2009 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
for no reason
i envision him replacing torre, or an interim, in LA
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
by cardball on Oct 16, 2009 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maddon signed extension in May
he is under contract through 2012 so the Cards may have to wait. Or we could always trade someong for Maddon.
by ubeddie on Oct 16, 2009 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dick, Welley & Thurston! DO IT MO!
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by gdm426 on Oct 17, 2009 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Two things:
1. Tony puts players in positions to succeed. If you hit .069 against lefties you will see 10 PA’s against lefties in a year. If you can’t get righties out, you’ll face 5 righties a year. On the flip side, if you are a 4th outfielder and can hit lefties you will get all those extra PA’s that the same player on another team would never see because they are managed by Torre or Baker etc… Inadvertently he makes players lots of money like Nunez, Mabry, Miles, Paquette etc… But when these players get to their new teams their manager puts them back in “traditional” situations and they fail.
That said, when I see him in post game interviews he has the face I just want to punch. He oozes “I’m smarter then you, Na Na Boo Boo.”
2. The idea that one of Pujols main reasons for staying or going is LaRussa is giving modern players too much credit. I remember when the Yankees kicked Torre out and Jeter and other players were vocal about him staying. They sure didn’t jump ship when the Yankees treated him like shit. Pujols wants to win. If they brought in Dusty Baker and they went to the playoffs then Pujols would be happy.
by Tom_Lawless_Bat_Flip on Oct 16, 2009 10:52 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dusty Baker = the one thing that would make me switch teams
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by STLRegalia on Oct 16, 2009 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I Think I Would Pay...
…to see TLR look straight into the camera, with all seriousness, and say “Na Na Boo Boo”. Just once.
;=8)
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
by The MooCow on Oct 16, 2009 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Randy Flores says you are wrong on point 1.
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by azruavatar on Oct 16, 2009 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
this argument is a logical fallacy
You can have millions of things that prove a theory but only one thing to disprove it.
The theory is TLR only puts people in places where they can succeed, however, he’s pretty notorious for going against that plenty of times and certainly enough times to make the theory untrue.
You can point to a million white swans to say black swans don’t exist, but it only takes one black swan.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
by rocKStark5 on Oct 16, 2009 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and we've seen an awful lot of black swans over the years
it's Clydesdales vs Goats. Actually sums up Cards vs. Cubs quite nicely. -all4tookie
by SleepyCA on Oct 16, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
More idiocy from Strauss
This little nugget comes from this article:
Weight training causes the right elbow more discomfort than baseball-related activities. Pujols cut back on his in-season routine to keep himself available; however, an abbreviated weight program contributed to Pujols’ thickening waist as the season progressed.
Anyone here notice albert getting fat? If so, it wouldn’t have so much to do with an abbreviated weight program. Maybe an abbreviated conditioning program, but weights are for adding/maintaining muscle mass and only minimally contribute to burning fat(that is, unless albert is flying through the weight room and not taking a break in between anything he does).
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
by scoot on Oct 16, 2009 11:00 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pujol's workout...
Here’s a very interesting analysis of the workout…
Almost one-third of the exercises in the entire program are for Pujols’ arms, which is counter-productive and a waste of time. It’s no wonder that Pujols’ has been battling a chronic elbow problem for the past 3 seasons.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
by rocKStark5 on Oct 16, 2009 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The author is certain
that the program caused his elbow injury.
The high-volume of this program, particularly all the arm work, can certainly be blamed for some of Pujols’ elbow woes.
by redbirds34 on Oct 16, 2009 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm skeptical
The only way to put the right load on the elbow is by generating basically the same stress you get from arm wrestling.
by thepainguy on Oct 16, 2009 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've tweaked my UCL in the past
and it hurts like hell to bench press, especially with dumbbells.
by silent_bob on Oct 16, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I could see this if...
…your arms aren’t straight up and down. The farther they get away from the vertical, the more load you’re putting on the UCL.
In this case, what the UCL helps do is keep the arm from folding over backward at the elbow.
by thepainguy on Oct 16, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nope, doesn't matter
The arc on a bench press is not straight up and down anyways if you’re doing it right.
by silent_bob on Oct 16, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dealing with this right now
and I agree.
by StanTheManFan on Oct 16, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thickening waist
he confused pujols with zambrano?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
by cardball on Oct 16, 2009 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tough to tell in uniform.
Strauss gets to see him nekkid in the locker room.
by redbirds34 on Oct 16, 2009 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
not for long
if he starts writing about player’s anatomy. some things are supposed to be kept in the locker room. what’s he, a creeper?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
by cardball on Oct 16, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd like to see SABR stat for that
maybe xRP? (rally penis adjusted with bat length/weight)
on a sidenote, PECOTA does use a players BMI as a variable.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
by rocKStark5 on Oct 16, 2009 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BMI makes sense
when contemplating long-term contracts (how will he age?).
on that note, abreu looks doughboyish yet stole 30 bases this year, more than any card. is TLR’s reluctance to run a result of witnessing yadi’s cannon daily?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
by cardball on Oct 16, 2009 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no, most if not all managers go by Pop to Pop times
that’s why mckay has a stop watch at first base. Every catcher has a pop time (from the time the ball hits his glove to the time it hits the 2b’s glove) and every pitcher has a pop time (from start of delivery to catchers glove).
Catchers usually don’t change but pitchers do (mostly based on pitch speed).
TLR doesn’t have to adjust for yadi’s 1.8 pop time, he goes catcher by catcher basis (scouting) and then real time pitcher pop times.
Pitcher pop + catcher pop = run or stay.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
by rocKStark5 on Oct 16, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
understood
was talking subconsciously, but not really seriously.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
by cardball on Oct 16, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
better
was expessing frustration with lack of running game. take abreu (since he’s a possibility to sign): how much value does he lose going from 30 stolen bases to, say, 10 if batting in front of apu? it may be insignificant, don’t know, but much is always made of his ability to steal bases.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
by cardball on Oct 16, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
but he also got caught 8 times
which is dangerously close to a negative contribution.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
by rocKStark5 on Oct 16, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he was gaining weight,
I would think it would start to show in his face at some point. And I haven’t seen it yet.
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 16, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll disagree here
High intensity muscle-building exercises help to burn fat in two ways:
1) Increasing muscle mass…more muscles mean more calories burned at rest.
2) If you limit your rest breaks between sets to 60 seconds or less you will get “cardio” effect from the lack of full recovery between sets.
by silent_bob on Oct 16, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He gets pudgy every year as the season progresses.
His waist looked a touch bigger than usual in this photo.
by spants on Oct 16, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that article also said his hammy was really bothering him
i never heard anyone say anything about his hammy. all i heard was his calf was an issue.
my point is he was more beat up than anyone outside of the clubhouse knew. and that explains so much.
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by gdm426 on Oct 17, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
.342 .452 .656 189 OPS+ in 08/09
Yeah, I’m sure his workouts are holding him back.
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Oct 16, 2009 11:48 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
...the link i posted above
some trainer flat out said his weight training was overkill and not a sports training program, more of a pro-bodybuilder program.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
by rocKStark5 on Oct 16, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
different trainers will say different things
by Evilfrog on Oct 16, 2009 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah but this view is far more common knowelege
athletes have to work on fast twitch muscle not slow twitch. Bodybuilding for athletic training is dated.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
by rocKStark5 on Oct 16, 2009 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
...on second thought
maybe baseball doesn’t use as “explosive” movements (outside running)…otherwise barry bonds wouldn’t have had inhuman numbers after the juice.
I wondered if his UZR declined when he upped the down, does UZR even go back that far? (I’ve been looking)…
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
by rocKStark5 on Oct 16, 2009 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or as the rest of the evidence shows
the juice just makes you look big.
…and the greatest player in the last 50 years was just good.
by Harknights on Oct 16, 2009 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
does not compute
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
by cardball on Oct 16, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
huh?
Steriods improve fast-twitch muscle performance. Does anyone really doubt this?
by Willie McGee's Twin on Oct 16, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
where do you get your numbers?
/kidding
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
by cardball on Oct 16, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
Steroids build muscle mass but don’t alter muscle composition.
by thepainguy on Oct 16, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What does muscle "composition" have to do with anything?
Using anabolic steriods builds fast-twitch muscle tissue, thereby increasing performance in activities where the performance of fast-twitch muscles (as well as other muscles) is necessary/desirable, i.e. football, sprinting, baseball, etc.
So, juice doesn’t just “make you look big” – it increases performance. If you’re disputing such an obvious proposition (and it’s kind of hard to tell if you are from your answer) then I’d like to introduce you to Ben Johnson and the east German womens’ Olympic team.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Oct 16, 2009 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sure Albert works fast-twitch muscles, too.
They just focused on the body-building aspects of his workout.
by spants on Oct 16, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
high repetitions
are meant to build lean musclemass, ie, for endurance related activites. bodybuilders typically do more low rep activity because they have to build huge amounts of muscle mass. obviously, someone like Arnold couldnt swing a baseball bat very effectively when he was in his bodybuilding prime.
that being said, that many reps could cause and probably is the reason for his elbow issues.
by UNCDubya on Oct 16, 2009 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How many bodybuilders tear their elbow UCL?
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Oct 16, 2009 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
how many
throw a baseball around after their workout?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
by cardball on Oct 16, 2009 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the current theory on pitch account...
Baseball Prospectus’s pitcher abuse points, IIRC, says that throwing a ball isn’t destructive but throwing the ball when TIRED is VERY (you can’t put back the toothpaste into the tube once it’s been squeezed).
It would make sense that pujols’s muscles are fatigued to the point throwing a baseball is destructive…shrugs
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
by rocKStark5 on Oct 16, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
PAP = Crap
If abuse, as they define it, is so bad, then why is durable old Randy Johnson at the top of every list?
by thepainguy on Oct 16, 2009 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not an iron clad rule
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Oct 16, 2009 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some people have better genetics than others
I realize when we are talking about pro baseball players the difference is probably minimal, but there is a chance Johnson is just built even more freakishly than anyone else. It’s like how some people can smoke 3 packs a day for 70 years and see no negative effects.
(Insert Your Own Joke)
by AWolfAtTheDoor on Oct 16, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"there is a chance..."
Understatement of the day goes to…. A wolfAtTheDoor! ;)
it's Clydesdales vs Goats. Actually sums up Cards vs. Cubs quite nicely. -all4tookie
by SleepyCA on Oct 16, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not the bodybuidling that tears the UCL
it’s the fact that there is increased laxity in the joint (in Pujols’ case) due to the already-compromised ligament, causing increased joint play during activities that involve that joint. High-volume, high-weight weight training will result in fatigue of the dynamic stabilizers of any particular joint, thus potentially causing microtrauma.
by silent_bob on Oct 16, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm happy
and a little surprised to see your love of larussa. seems to be a shortage of it around these parts. i think i’m basically with you. i love the guy but at times get infuriated with what sometimes seems like dunderhead moves (usually involving the bullpen). however, as a big picture type of guy i give him the benefit of the doubt. i believe tony is willing to make a “bad” move if necessary, if it will help the club in the long term. ain’t who wins the battle, it’s who wins the war. i think where tony excels and the reason he is a capital “E” Exceptional manager is his work as a psychologist. maybe controlling the x’s and o’s doesn’t win you many victories, but getting the most out of your players does. and this starts and ends with emotions. good post, dan.
by iaintsentimental on Oct 16, 2009 12:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I like Tony too.
If I ever call him stupid or say I don’t like him it’s usually because I’m angry. I pretty much agree with you though.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Oct 16, 2009 1:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Although there seem to be a lot of people who say otherwise
I’m sure that most people here would rather have him than at least 75% of the other MLB managers.
"Thunder is good, thunder is impressive; but it is lightning that does all the work"
-Mark Twain
by Taskmaster on Oct 16, 2009 2:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
that's the thing
is there’s not a whole lot of good options to choose from, at least we have someone that is competent to some extent
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 16, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The ol
giant douche versus turd sandwich dilemma…
"The Cards lead this game tied 1-1." -Mike Shannon
by ducttape16 on Oct 16, 2009 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I laughed
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Oct 16, 2009 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know if I particularly "like" LaDunc...
but they sure do make it more interesting to be a Cards fan. It’s fun to have an iconic manager and one who generates lots of discussion.
And it sure beats having Cecil Cooper as a manager….
by Willie McGee's Twin on Oct 16, 2009 2:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That's the thing
it’s risk averse.
I don’t think LaRussa is the right manager for this organization anymore, especially when he chooses guys like Thurston over the plethora of 3B/SS options we had this season but I also can only imagine what it must be like to have Cecil Cooper or Ned Yost as your manager.
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 16, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Please list this plethora of 3B/SS options. . .
He tried Tyler Greene for a while, which didn’t work out. He rightly sent Brian Barden down when he proved he couldn’t consistently hit major league pitching. David Freese was hurt until well into the season. Allen Craig’s defense is suspect, or so we hear.
I don’t know that Thurston was the best choice, but I’m not sure who would have been markedly better.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Oct 16, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Barden struggled in May
but was absurd in April. Against RHB, even while struggling he was a better hitter than Thurston. Thurston put up an OPS of .740 in May and then plummeted to his fiery death…all while still getting 150 more plate appearances to show he could ‘be consistent’ while Barden was not afford such luck.
Freese was already demoted before the injury. He played for Memphis for about a month before being put on the DL. When Freese came off the DL, he wasn’t given a shot at the 3B job. It still belonged to Joe “.550 OPS is Right By Me” Thurston.
Allen Craig struggled badly at the beginning of the season and eventually got hot about a month before the DeRosa trade. For some reason, it is ok to let Mark DeRosa and Joe Thurston play 3B defensively but Allen Craig must be stone hands over there.
Valuable developmental time and timing opportunities were taken from guys who can help the club today AND going forward and it was given to his security blanket Joe Thurston. It took Khalil Greene going into a shell for Brendan Ryan to finally get the starting SS job at the end of May. He had options…and instead he kept choosing Joe Thurston. Mostly because, he decided Joe Thurston was good to have around in ST. And once LaRussa decides he wants a player around, he will go out of his way to find them playing time…performance be damned.
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 16, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
that shoulder bump STILL freaks me out.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 16, 2009 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Valuable development time
I think there is an argument to be made that it was more valuable for Craig and Freese to excel at AAA for a season than to fill Joe Thurston’s role at the major league level.
For that matter, it’s not as if Craig or Freese were sure bets to succeed at the major league level, either.
I don’t like PECOTA as much as most, but it had Freese figured for 233/298/377 in 455 PA at the ML level at its 50th percentile. Heck, at 90th percentile, it only had him at 266/333/447.
And Thurston and Barden are basically the same offensive player, so I don’t see how TLR picking one over the other can really be held too much against him. It’s kind of like criticizing someone for choosing anchovies instead of spinach to top their ice cream.
Interestingly, PECOTA like Craig slightly better than Freese: Craig, the numbers were 241/299/378 in 500 PA at the ML level at the 50th percentile, and 276/340/458 at the 90th percentile.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Oct 16, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thurston to Freese
The difference in defense and baserunning would have been more valuable to the team, IMO.
Furthermore, it’s difficult to swallow moving Craig from third because of his average defense and then play Thurston and DeRosa there for the an entire season.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Oct 16, 2009 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which goes to why LaRussa may not be the right manager for this organization anymore
he sees more value in guys like Thurston than giving that same opportunity to one of the better prospects in the organization.
It isn’t that he is wrong, he just may be wrong for what this team is trying to do.
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 16, 2009 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Thurston Experiment was Pretty Weird
And borderline indefensible.
by thepainguy on Oct 16, 2009 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kind of like
Kennedy and Felipe in the outfield. Totally indefensible.
by OCCardsFan on Oct 16, 2009 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't forget poor Brendan Ryan.
Tony stuck him in right field at least once.
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
by andi_k on Oct 16, 2009 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought he played -- oh. that's just his range.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 16, 2009 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
HL
i’m generally in agreement with you. at the same time, is not mo responsible for the roster? i know he couldn’t make tony play them, but he could’ve added craig/freeze.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
by cardball on Oct 16, 2009 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and Tony would have done what he did to ARey
throw a fit for not getting his way & sit their ass on the bench & not play them
pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels
by gdm426 on Oct 17, 2009 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not Trey Hillman
Hey. The Royals are in much worse shape (in every sense of the word) than the Cardinals and Dayton Moore/Trey HIllman did (as of the last time I checked) not play a single player with no MLB experience this season. That is flat-out ridiculous that a team that is a rebuild mode as steep as KC is.
by stlfan on Oct 17, 2009 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think thurston was the right call
and it’s too bad that the organization doesn’t see Allen Craig as a full-time third baseman, but I don’t think “he doesn’t know what to do when his top three choices at third base lose huge chunks of the season all at once” is a very damning criticism.
by DanUpBaby on Oct 16, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know it's routine but does anyone else freeze up
at the name “Dr. James Andrews” popping up in the feeds….
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 16, 2009 2:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I guess if he has to have it done,
better to do it now while we (hopefully) have Holliday so he can heal fully and come back sometime next year. TJ recovery time is much shorter for non-pitchers, right? Not a full year?
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
by andi_k on Oct 16, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only problem is that there is a 5 to 10 percent chance of nerve damage
I’m sure that’s why they may be holding off.
There’s a slim chance that this could be career ending.
by thepainguy on Oct 16, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, that's what scares me (and everybody else, I'm sure)
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
by andi_k on Oct 16, 2009 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lidge
Lidge had a very intersting season last year. His HR/FB rate was a few ticks above three, and his fly ball rate was in the low-30’s. So he was fortunate on the fly balls he did give up, along with giving up few of them in the first place. Considering both were well below his career rates, you had to figure he’d regress. Then he went and did this. That had to be one of the most violent oscillations I’ve ever seen…truly outstanding results to utterly horrendous ones. According to pitch f/x, he’s basically a 50/50 FB/SL pitcher, and via pitching weights he’s getting killed this season on the fastball to the tune of -16.8 runs, or ~-1.5 wins. That’s not so good.
The real Brad Lidge has to be in there between these two, right? I don’t know what it is, but there’s something fascinating about watching Lidge pitch… like you never know if you’ll see domination or, well, something else.
VivaElBirdos: Celebrating glorious mustaches since 2009
by redbirdnation8206 on Oct 16, 2009 3:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
my guess at the current real brad lidge
is 2009 Chris Perez—high but not extraordinary strikeout rate, high but not unplayable walk rate, a few too many home runs. A closer but not a first tier closer.
by DanUpBaby on Oct 16, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone watching the Phillies/Dodgers game?
Did you see that commercial about the weirdo who pretends to like baseball for his boss and needs a “rental health day?” Why was that a good commercial to show during a baseball game? Presumably most people watching the baseball game cannot relate to that guy at all. I just thought it was weird.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Oct 16, 2009 5:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yes, I saw that.
I was trying to find it online, so I can post it instead of snarktastically commenting “bandwagon fan.”
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 16, 2009 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
99% of ads are utter wastes of money
They are funny, but don’t sell any product.
by thepainguy on Oct 16, 2009 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This one wasn't even funny.
I was annoyed the whole time.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Oct 16, 2009 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've taken to boycotting products of really bad ads
I figure it’s only right if a clever commercial will get me to buy things… high risk / high reward on ads at casa de ducttape…
"The Cards lead this game tied 1-1." -Mike Shannon
by ducttape16 on Oct 16, 2009 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
per rotoworld sidebar
Pujols followup MRI on elbow next week
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 16, 2009 5:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
says it all, really.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 16, 2009 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm going to a Cheer Accident concert tonight
there will be free rum
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 16, 2009 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sorry
been surfing other websites
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 16, 2009 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm always either first or last, heh
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 16, 2009 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's what she said?
"The Cards lead this game tied 1-1." -Mike Shannon
by ducttape16 on Oct 16, 2009 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
funny part is
that thread where the nickname was birthed, I was just goofing around, trying to be funny
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 16, 2009 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
see it was funny though because we all thought you were 6
it was never, ever personal
pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels
by gdm426 on Oct 17, 2009 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sufring other websites'd!!!
John Smoltz for Cardinals' closer 2010!!
by jd is legend on Oct 16, 2009 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pedro the goat is doin' pretty well.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 16, 2009 6:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Rule Change Idea
Why don’t we allow catchers and pitchers to have those headsets like quarterbacks and coaches? Wouldn’t that help speed up the game? No more Dave Stewart peering in and no more catchers doing that twirling with their fingers.
by Tom_Lawless_Bat_Flip on Oct 16, 2009 6:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
because trying to steal signs is a part of our olde timey game
besides, the simplicity of the communication is part of the challenge, and it excludes fewer people; imagine someone trying to understand Yadi over a headset. and also there’s a group that’s got ALL the frequencies of the headsets of each NFL team. More tech is not necessarily good.
…why hello there, Philadelphia!
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 16, 2009 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
we'd have to give yadi a playsheet
with which he could fail to cover his mouth while calling in the pitch
by brackenthebox on Oct 16, 2009 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the batter would listen
though i suppose they could encode it,,,or whatever
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
by cardball on Oct 16, 2009 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
there's no talking in baseball
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 16, 2009 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Padilla gets a standing O, doffs his cap
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 16, 2009 6:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Kuo is badass. just sayin'.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 16, 2009 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
defense fail.
sorry, Chan Ho.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 16, 2009 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Dodgers play 27 outs.
As opposed to everyone else. In a one-run game.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Oct 16, 2009 6:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The one I heard yesterday before the game.
“Clayton Kershaw is wise beyond his years.” Actually said on WWL before Clayton had his ass handed to him.
by Tom_Lawless_Bat_Flip on Oct 16, 2009 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL defense.
Skip > Utley.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 16, 2009 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It does make me feel a small bit better
when i see even good bullpens (joe nathan) blow late leads in these here playoffs. not alot better, but enough to allow me to actually watch whats left of the playoffs.
by FunkeeC on Oct 16, 2009 6:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
nathan, papelbon, street, all blew saves
Sherrill had a melt down that probably cost a game; the phillies’ best relief pitcher (madson) almost did, too. And now chan ho park has let the wheels come off. And Eyre can’t get a lefty out.
Will this be the day broxton joins the club?
it's Clydesdales vs Goats. Actually sums up Cards vs. Cubs quite nicely. -all4tookie
by SleepyCA on Oct 16, 2009 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what is with all the Star Wars music in ballparks?
now I’m feeling jealous.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 16, 2009 6:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think they are just hoping
the force out will be with you at this point
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Oct 16, 2009 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What would be the chance that any Cardinal
other than albert could walk with the bases loaded?
by Harknights on Oct 16, 2009 7:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
4%
and he swings on the first fucking pitch
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Oct 16, 2009 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know...that number looks made up
and I was told once that 60% of all statistics are made up.
by Harknights on Oct 16, 2009 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Homer Simpson said it best
"Oh, people can come up with statistics to prove anything. 14% of people know that."
by BTown Birds fan on Oct 16, 2009 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
albert actually didn't do it this year
but it happened 14 times. Tyler Greene actually did it twice, along with Luddy, MH, Thurston, and Rasmus. Khalil, Schu, Lugo and Yadi did it once. link
it's Clydesdales vs Goats. Actually sums up Cards vs. Cubs quite nicely. -all4tookie
by SleepyCA on Oct 16, 2009 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
my fav was the cubs/cards
walk off walk.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
by rocKStark5 on Oct 17, 2009 8:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is the longest inning ever.
Maybe it’s not but it seems like it’s taking forever.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Oct 16, 2009 7:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not watching the game, but just saw this on Twitter:
@MatthewHLeach Rammstein plays as Ronnie Belliard comes to the plate. Seriously. #ThatsJustWeird
by spants on Oct 16, 2009 7:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This twitter thing is catching on.
Makes me think the internet may actually stick around.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Oct 16, 2009 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only if they find a way to put porn on it.
by Tom_Lawless_Bat_Flip on Oct 16, 2009 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wait they could put porn in
the intertubes?!?
Keep me updated.
by Harknights on Oct 16, 2009 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Guys...I just discovered it.
…that’s why I’ve been gone so long.
BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
by vexedtechie on Oct 17, 2009 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Much like Quagmire....
yuuuuuge left arm…
"The Cards lead this game tied 1-1." -Mike Shannon
by ducttape16 on Oct 17, 2009 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
quagmire's reaction was so freakin perfect when he first heard about it
I'm like a polygon, I'm edgy.
"OHHHHH!!!!!!! IT TASTES. SO. GOOD!!!!!!!!!!"
-BOOOOOOOOG
by slu on Oct 17, 2009 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not as big as this dude...
Easy does it, you arm-wrasslin’ freak!
BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
by vexedtechie on Oct 17, 2009 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that'll ruin it
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Oct 16, 2009 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
After the Game
I hope they interview Kobi.
by Harknights on Oct 16, 2009 7:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dodgers using magic!
performance enhancers?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 16, 2009 7:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I forgot how much I hate Fox Sports.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 16, 2009 7:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
TBS is worse
if they could get sir charles in the studio, it’d be an improvement, IMO
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
by cardball on Oct 16, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the Clydesdales sold out!!!
damn them! appearing in a Yanks Angels series!
even the horses have no loyalty.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 16, 2009 8:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
also, do we really know that's Robinson Cano?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 16, 2009 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
joe thurston?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
by cardball on Oct 16, 2009 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And now it's a revelation to McCarver that hitters don't actually watch the ball hit the bat
by thepainguy on Oct 16, 2009 9:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
My duaghter goes to the same school as Joe Buck's girls...
…and I am SO tempted to try to get his real opinion of McCarver.
Maybe later on at some function.
by thepainguy on Oct 16, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
JoeBuck 1.0 would just give you an automated response anyway
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Oct 16, 2009 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
nevertheless, please tape it painguy
i wanna hear what he has to say too
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by gdm426 on Oct 17, 2009 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
painguy
what is your scouting assessment of lackey v. waino, however you choose?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
by cardball on Oct 16, 2009 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think they are roughly comparable
Both are mostly good mechanically, but I’d give the edge to Wainer.
They are also mostly fastball/curve guys with mediocre to average fastballs and plus to plus plus curveballs (and the odd other pitch). I’d say that Lackey generally has a better FB and Wainer has a more consistent curve.
by thepainguy on Oct 16, 2009 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lackey's fastball looked horrible early.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Oct 16, 2009 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's all over the place (I assume due to the weather)
But it seems to have better sink.
I think he’s giving up hits on his curve, which is also quite variable.
by thepainguy on Oct 16, 2009 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thanks
i was thinking there were alot of similarities under the surface. i like lackey alot (and of course waino).
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
by cardball on Oct 16, 2009 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lackey reminds me a lot, and more, of Derek Lowe (who I like)
by thepainguy on Oct 16, 2009 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i see that, especially visually
better comparison, and i like lowe too, but put the other two on a higher pedestal.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
by cardball on Oct 16, 2009 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
not dead but his face looks like it is decaying.
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 16, 2009 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Happy Birthday Tim!
Hope you get a clue for your birthday.
by Tom_Lawless_Bat_Flip on Oct 16, 2009 9:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Baseball will be so much better
when umpires are gone.
We don’t wanna get picky about the catcher actually TAGGING the guy on a plate at the play in a league championship series. That would probably slow down the game.
by sdrone on Oct 16, 2009 9:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We will have to program all robot umps
to understand the word cocksucker so they can throw players out of the game.
by Tom_Lawless_Bat_Flip on Oct 16, 2009 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
or just reach out and squish their heads
in between their giant robot pincers.
it's Clydesdales vs Goats. Actually sums up Cards vs. Cubs quite nicely. -all4tookie
by SleepyCA on Oct 16, 2009 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My brother visited Mizzou today and really liked it.
Looks like we’ll have two different kinds of Tigers in the family if they can work out the money.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Oct 16, 2009 9:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fieldhouse fridays about to commence!
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Oct 16, 2009 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know what this means.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Oct 16, 2009 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do.
It’s a crowded meat market that occasionally lets minors drink when they know liquor patrol isn’t out in full force.
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
by andi_k on Oct 16, 2009 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still don't get it.
Do they have these at Mizzou?
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Oct 16, 2009 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hahah
it’s a gay ass fratty bar where you can go get sorostitutes for a couple bud lights
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Oct 16, 2009 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
or yeah, what he said.
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
by andi_k on Oct 16, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fieldhouse is a bar downtown
by “meat market,” I meant a place where people go to get laid hook up with random strangers that might become your friends someday.
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
by andi_k on Oct 16, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i really should have gone to collage
pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels
by gdm426 on Oct 17, 2009 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Except everyone thinks liquor patrol is out in force these days
It hasn’t been nearly as packed and the DoucheCount has been pretty low.
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Oct 17, 2009 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it means your brother is going to be poppin multiple collars soon
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Oct 16, 2009 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doubtful.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Oct 16, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
your brother middle of his first semester
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Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Oct 16, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would slap him in the face.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Oct 16, 2009 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That picture always makes me laugh,
even though I’ve probably seen it fifty times.
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
by andi_k on Oct 16, 2009 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What do women see in guys like that?
Can they not see the smirk? Do they not know what it means?
by thepainguy on Oct 16, 2009 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Key word here is "women"
It’s mostly girls who don’t know any better yet, until they’ve gotten burned a few times. Some learn faster than others.
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
by andi_k on Oct 16, 2009 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
True
My freshman roommate was a total douche. Multiple polos and everything. At orientation he stuck his tongue in the ear of the woman was was running things while she was doing some lame Q&A thing and her back was turned. Then he yelled, “Rock and roll” at the top of his lungs in triumph.
The girls loved him at first and then he date raped someone and only the skanks would talk to him after that.
by thepainguy on Oct 16, 2009 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ew.
That would not be attractive to me at all. The tongue in ear thing I mean. The date rape thing speaks for itself.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Oct 16, 2009 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
For a while he ended up attracting a lot of really beautiful, sensitive girls (for a while)
I guess they liked his confidence?
I think they also had confidence issues (the whole bum magnet thing).
The beauty was that I became known as his normal roommate and got to know some of the girls. I didn’t date any, but got some good friends out of the deal.
by thepainguy on Oct 16, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really do think it is the confidence thing.
Most of them probably have daddy issues as well.
At least you were there to help mitigate the douchiness.
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
by andi_k on Oct 16, 2009 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What exactly do daddy issue look like?
I ask because I coach a number of 7th grade girls who don’t seem to have dads in their lives and I can see that they are paying attention to how I act.
I’m trying to set a good example.
by thepainguy on Oct 16, 2009 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My guess is that your girls are probably already on a good path
if they’re involved in sports and have a thoughtful, attentive, and respectful male coach. My seventh grade girls can usually spot the obnoxious boys, and as long as they have enough else going on in their lives that make them feel smart and strong and wanted, they don’t pay those boys too much attention. Just a generalization of course – and I’m no expert…
by peach concrete on Oct 16, 2009 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good points--respectful is definitely key here
Kids pick up on attitudes towards women and internalize them pretty early.
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
by andi_k on Oct 16, 2009 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm only worried about one girl
She just moved and seems a little lost, although she’s warming up to the team and to me of late.
In general, we are competitive but have fun.
I give them crap (“There’s no fashion in soccer!” when they show up to practice with big bows in their hair) and let them give me crap back (as long as it’s respectful and not mean). I’m also trying to teach them assertiveness, and soccer is good for that. I’ll lean into them and fight them for a ball and if they don’t push back I’ll say, “Why are you letting me push you around?”
by thepainguy on Oct 16, 2009 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That all sounds really good, actually
I don’t think you have anything to worry about and it sounds like you are doing a good job.
+1 for positive male role models!
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
by andi_k on Oct 16, 2009 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+2
Yay good guys!
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Oct 16, 2009 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I did get a sotto voce TWSS in practice last night when I said something
But I blew it off.
by thepainguy on Oct 16, 2009 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL!!!1
I think sometimes, you probably have to let the kids think they’re getting away with something. But again, I really have no fucking clue, so I should probably quit offering advice.
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
by andi_k on Oct 16, 2009 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
She's mostly a riot
She’s my #1 striker and probably the 2nd best player on the team. She’s a good athlete and could probably play in HS but is fine playing on the B team. If her friends were A team players, she could probably make that team easily. She’s very athletic but is also very fashionable, and I think she does some of if because she knows it fake irritates me.
Of course I do wish she was a bit more aggressive and intense, but she is who she is.
by thepainguy on Oct 16, 2009 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also, I've had some coaches who were real dicks,
and some that were really cool that I just loved. You sound like my HS swim team coach, who was super-cool.
So again, I think you’re probably doing just fine.
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
by andi_k on Oct 16, 2009 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They definitely are a lot of fun
Most of the time.
by thepainguy on Oct 16, 2009 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My HS Swim Team coach was the best coach ever.
I loved him.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Oct 16, 2009 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Funny, but my older daughter's a swimmer
She is REALLY strong and toned and I’m trying to make sure she sees that as an asset and not a liability. Of course, a couple of years ago one of her friends gave he the whole, “Boys don’t like girls who have muscles (that are bigger than theirs).” But she mostly blew her off.
Unfortunately her coach doesn’t seem to get girls (or just plain kids). He screamed at her the other day, which I wasn’t thrilled with.
by thepainguy on Oct 16, 2009 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
B would never scream at us.
He threw kickboards at us… jokingly. And sprayed us to make us get in the water when we were being lazy but that was it.
I don’t really have a lot of muscle. I most just got skinnier. That myth about guys not liking girls with muscles bigger than theirs is only true for the douchebags.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Oct 16, 2009 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
Swimming got rid of my daughter’s body fat, fast. She’s not ripped, but she’s solid.
I have some girls who drive me crazy with their passivity, some of which they probably do for the boys, but not all coaches get that and know how to motivate girls. The stuff that works on boy football players doesn’t work on girl swimmers.
by thepainguy on Oct 16, 2009 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Girl swimmers are a weird bunch, all introspective and shit
You get three hours to spend alone with your thoughts and nothing but the sound of water. I loved that so much.
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
by andi_k on Oct 16, 2009 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's the best thing about swimming.
I wish the pool were closer, I would swim so much more.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Oct 16, 2009 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The pool at the university rec center is fabulous, I hear
but membership is ridiculously expensive, even for staff members. Something like $45 a month.
If I lived in STL still I could go to Bally’s for only $19 a month.
I just want a goddamned pool that I don’t have to drive 20 minutes to get to!
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
by andi_k on Oct 16, 2009 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So, we are veering dangerously close to the pool temperatures discussion again : )
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
by andi_k on Oct 16, 2009 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes we are.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Oct 16, 2009 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
She loves it, so I love it
I don’t know if she’ll ever be great, but she seems to enjoy it and has a good body for it. What she needs now is just a touch more competitiveness. Of course the same is true for my older son.
by thepainguy on Oct 16, 2009 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How great, then, that that girl is on your team.
What is she going to be doing when soccer ends (if it ends)? It would be nice if she were still going to be on another team – ideally with some of the same girls.
For what it’s worth, I LOVED giving and getting friendly crap from my coaches when I was in middle school. And the assertiveness stuff was great. I think it’s also okay to show them how well you treat the women in your life (the g-rated ways you treat them well, of course). How cool would it be for them to hear that you’re taking your wife to dinner because she’s had a hard week – that kind of stuff. I bet they’d love giving you advice about that, and I think they’d remember it as well…
by peach concrete on Oct 16, 2009 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oops
I meant to write ‘wife or girlfriend or daughter or mom – or some woman in your life’… Didn’t mean to presume that you were married. SORRY!
by peach concrete on Oct 16, 2009 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am married, so NBD
And both young men and women need to learn the right way to treat people early. I had to learn a lot of this stuff later on in life, at the cost of much strife.
by thepainguy on Oct 16, 2009 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
She's a public school girl on my volleyball team
So I’m not sure that there’s much of an opportunity. I tried to get her to come out for the soccer team too, because I have a couple of nice public school girls on the soccer team, but she didn’t want to.
by thepainguy on Oct 16, 2009 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man...I don't know what to tell you except
express through your actions that kindness from a man is not weakness in a man
Uhhh…I’m kind of at a loss. There’s a reason I don’t have kids (yet?). I’m afraid I don’t have much good advice for you, except try not to do any of the things you think jerks would do, and I guess that’s pretty obvious and not really useful at all.
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
by andi_k on Oct 16, 2009 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"kindness from a man is not weakness in a man"
Extremely well put, Ms. K.
by peach concrete on Oct 16, 2009 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks--see, my BA in Psych is good for something
mainly, bullshitting on the internets.
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
by andi_k on Oct 16, 2009 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm more worried about my boys learning that
by thepainguy on Oct 16, 2009 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not many of them do.
All you can do, I would think, is be the best example that you can be.
Without being too nosy, can I ask where mom is in this scenario? Obviously, your relationship with their mother is very influential.
Of course, you don’t have to tell me and I would totally understand.
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
by andi_k on Oct 16, 2009 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's OK but complicated
Suffice it to say that I didn’t have a great example growing up and only learned some of this stuff recently.
by thepainguy on Oct 16, 2009 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, me too. All you can do is try your best, really.
I’m once-divorced… : )
No kids from that union, thankfully.
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
by andi_k on Oct 16, 2009 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course, I certainly didn't mean to imply that you were headed towards a divorce
just relating my personal experience.
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
by andi_k on Oct 16, 2009 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it is a nice sentiment
otoh, “nice” is boring, and “jerks” are a challenge. Being boring is fatal for a young man with romantic aspirations.
I think it has more to do with perceived dullness than perceives weakness.
it's Clydesdales vs Goats. Actually sums up Cards vs. Cubs quite nicely. -all4tookie
by SleepyCA on Oct 16, 2009 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think that's generally true in college but fades fast in the real world
by thepainguy on Oct 16, 2009 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
True, and that's the whole dilemma--how to be exciting and dangerous but still respectful
It’s a tough order to fill. But it gets easier as you get older.
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
by andi_k on Oct 16, 2009 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
we called that "joining the theater group"
though all the circles generally worked themselves up to what amounted to dating in groups. lots of switching around with maybe a few actual steady relationships.
it was the loners who had trouble landing dates.
of course, who knows what goes on today. the kids coming in from middle school were already sexually active. we might’ve been the last generation to really mark it around upper grade high school.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 16, 2009 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alternately, it could be "joining the choir?"
It seems completely absurd to me to think that nowadays, twelve-year olds are having sex. I’m no prude by any means, but seriously…that can’t be good for your psyche.
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
by andi_k on Oct 16, 2009 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it might be a cultural thing
I have a friend who grew up in France, and she started around that time.
IMO it’s a lot to do with education and maturity level (especially boundary and power issues), which parents should be on top of. If only because they’re the only adults with baselines on their kids, never mind that whole responsibility thing.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 16, 2009 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you're worried, or even thinking, about this then you're not one of the bad parents
The bad parents think it’s normal and even encourage it.
A few years ago they were encouraging their kids to teepee and in some cases were even driving them around.
by thepainguy on Oct 16, 2009 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I should have specified "in our culture," but didn't think to do so until you pointed it out
It’s true, Europeans are not as hung up on sex as Americans are.
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
by andi_k on Oct 16, 2009 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They have sex in sixth grade?
I don’t think that would have been physically possible for me.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Oct 16, 2009 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No shit, I was still playing with Barbies then
I was a bit of a late bloomer, to say the least.
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
by andi_k on Oct 16, 2009 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dunno, I've always wanted to ask her about it more
but, uh. awkward. she’s very well-adjusted and sensible, though.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 16, 2009 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Most of the French kids I've met
seem well-adjusted, sensible, and much more mature for their age than their American counterparts
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
by andi_k on Oct 16, 2009 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
SSS?
i lived their and would disagree, although my impression beforehand would have definitely been yours.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
by cardball on Oct 16, 2009 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah.
I went there for only two weeks and they really seemed exactly like American kids.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Oct 16, 2009 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
keep in mind
you were an American kid, right? observer effect ahoy.
I dunno who andi’s citing, but I’m talking to French adults re: their childhood.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 16, 2009 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
SSS definitely. I am citing French "kids" who are now in graduate school,
so I guess that makes them adults…
Also, I suddenly am a bit tipsy and just talking out of my ass now. So, feel free to ignore all the parts that don’t make sense.
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
by andi_k on Oct 16, 2009 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i wasn't a kid
and had/have a range of friends there, got to “know” their kids a bit, but you bring up an excellent point.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
by cardball on Oct 17, 2009 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just need to stuff a cucumber down your pants on halloween one night.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Oct 16, 2009 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And this is why I will never have children.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Oct 16, 2009 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm not saying I don't think it, but for pete's sake I don't say it
Most of the time.
by thepainguy on Oct 16, 2009 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you & me both fritz
pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels
by gdm426 on Oct 17, 2009 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The girls loved him at first and then he date raped someone and only the skanks would talk to him after that.
Well then that happened… A totally normal thing, you know?
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by redbirdnation8206 on Oct 17, 2009 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sorry, cut me off.
does the word “date” modify rape somehow? sorry, saw that word was not supposed to be used, or taken lightly…
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
by cardball on Oct 17, 2009 2:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
From my perspective,
it’s okay here because the word rape is being used to describe actual rape. It’s when it’s used as a metaphor that it’s hard to take.
by peach concrete on Oct 17, 2009 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, was cardball being sarcastic?
I didn’t pick up on that. I was just answering the question. But I’m MORE than happy never to discuss the subject again.
by peach concrete on Oct 17, 2009 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you don't know what "date rape" means?
that’s … just… uhm.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 17, 2009 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
apparently not
because i typed “modify” when I meant “mitigate”. also, didn’t express myself well. just say I’m with spants and peach concrete above, and leave it at that.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
by cardball on Oct 17, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It wasn't used lightly.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Oct 17, 2009 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I see a douchebag.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Oct 16, 2009 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good girl.
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
by andi_k on Oct 16, 2009 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Douchedar?
How do I develop it in my daughter and her friends who are 7th graders? Or is it something you just have to learn for yourself?
by thepainguy on Oct 16, 2009 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You have to learn for herself.
I’m still not perfect. But popped collars are easy.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Oct 16, 2009 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
She knows what a trashy girl looks like
I mentioned before that she knew to be shocked when she saw a girl grinding on a bunch of guys at a mixer.
But I don’t know that she knows what a trashy guy looks like.
by thepainguy on Oct 16, 2009 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
7th grade is such a weird time
Everyone is confused, I think, so the non-introspective dicks who think they know everything seem attractive.
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
by andi_k on Oct 16, 2009 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
passed on from a friend
http://tacit.livejournal.com/280915.html
watch out for the ads, the site’s gone to them.
mostly for this: A partner who is kind to you but not kind to the waitress isn’t a kind person.
I know so many people, men and women, who don’t get that.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 16, 2009 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
SO TRUE.
Before I got pseudo-hitched, that was always one of my evaluation criteria.
I actually came to that realization reading an interview with Peter Buck in Sassy magazine (he was polite to the waiter).
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
by andi_k on Oct 16, 2009 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what if the collar is popped as an ironic attack of those who pop it seriously????
I'm like a polygon, I'm edgy.
"OHHHHH!!!!!!! IT TASTES. SO. GOOD!!!!!!!!!!"
-BOOOOOOOOG
by slu on Oct 16, 2009 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How am I supposed to tell?
I’ll just lump you into that group with them. Unless it’s Halloween, then I’ll assume it’s your costume and I won’t have any opinion of you.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Oct 16, 2009 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
note to self...
this is why people i just meet sometimes think im a douche……
and as a related aside…if someone that didn’t know me looked at my facebook pictures they’d conclude i’m either a douche, gay, or both…none of which are true…not that there’s anything wrong with that (except for being a douche of course).
I'm like a polygon, I'm edgy.
"OHHHHH!!!!!!! IT TASTES. SO. GOOD!!!!!!!!!!"
-BOOOOOOOOG
by slu on Oct 16, 2009 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
quit being ironic and be yourself?
this is why people hate hipsters.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Oct 17, 2009 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
but what if my acting like a hipster is another level of irony?
my generation is drowned in irony…
and for the record i dont actually pop my collar on a regular basis…..at a big party i might though….along with wearing an upside down and backwards visor.
I'm like a polygon, I'm edgy.
"OHHHHH!!!!!!! IT TASTES. SO. GOOD!!!!!!!!!!"
-BOOOOOOOOG
by slu on Oct 17, 2009 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Um.....
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Oct 17, 2009 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I used to try to do stuff, too.
Then I realized wearing shorts and a t-shirt or jeans and a sweat shirt was comfortable and I didn’t have to go out of my way to talk to strangers to have a good time and got about living my life.
Everything finally worked out.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Oct 17, 2009 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
but mystery, the pick up artist, says to wear interesting things in order to get women to notice you......
and im done because im getting lost in my own irony and sarcasm
I'm like a polygon, I'm edgy.
"OHHHHH!!!!!!! IT TASTES. SO. GOOD!!!!!!!!!!"
-BOOOOOOOOG
by slu on Oct 17, 2009 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you a bird?
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Oct 17, 2009 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i dont get the reference....
I'm like a polygon, I'm edgy.
"OHHHHH!!!!!!! IT TASTES. SO. GOOD!!!!!!!!!!"
-BOOOOOOOOG
by slu on Oct 17, 2009 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Birds use their plumage to attract the females.
Which is why male cardinals are bright red and female cardinals are more of a brownish red. This is also why peacocks have bright, exciting tails and peahens just have little dinky tails.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Oct 17, 2009 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh...i guess i just assume everything is a pop culture reference
and i don’t actually do that…just making my own funny little pop culture reference.
I'm like a polygon, I'm edgy.
"OHHHHH!!!!!!! IT TASTES. SO. GOOD!!!!!!!!!!"
-BOOOOOOOOG
by slu on Oct 17, 2009 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know.
I was trying to make a joke too.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Oct 17, 2009 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
as i said....drowned in irony
it is funny now that i realized what you did there fwiw
I'm like a polygon, I'm edgy.
"OHHHHH!!!!!!! IT TASTES. SO. GOOD!!!!!!!!!!"
-BOOOOOOOOG
by slu on Oct 17, 2009 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
there's Adam demonstrating
http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2009/7/29/967198/game-103-overflow-thread-iii
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 17, 2009 2:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
there was an Adam Wainwright caption about that, this year.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 17, 2009 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
mystery calls it peacocking
Disclaimer: Mystery knows his shit. Period. This is not debatable.
With that said, holy hell I can’t believe half the shit he pulls off. He’s really a dork at the core.
Peacocking can be done without looking like a dork. The affliction douchebags somewhat do it with those horrid shirts and spray tans (i still think they’re dorks but daddy-issue girls like them)
The “one interesting item” is because girls have HORRIBLE game. They come up and say something stupid about your shirt or stand there trying to get you to talk to them (called a proximity). One interesting item (like a silly hat or whatever) gives them a a chance to say “OMG is that a???”.
I don’t like the Ironic Peacocking because 99% of the time people don’t get it and assume you’re a douche and not an ironic hipster. Unless you’re hanging out with fellow hipsters so ironic peacocking would work.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
by rocKStark5 on Oct 17, 2009 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
these hipter , douche debates never cease to amaze me
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Oct 17, 2009 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think hipsters are a subculture of douche :-)
kinda like goth’s are the dirty uncles of emo.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
by rocKStark5 on Oct 17, 2009 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with the subject line
I don’t understand that goth, emo stuff, so I just ignore it
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Oct 17, 2009 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mystery may know how to pick up some girls.
But I would think you were a fool if you wore the clothes he wears and said the things he says to say and would stay as far away from you as possible.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Oct 17, 2009 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mystery's ridiculous attire
is set for the type of girls he wants; the hottest girls in the big clubs. He doesn’t go for the average girl.
Those girls have low attention and are getting hit on by EVERY GUY.
Personally I hate clubs and their inhabitants, however, the principles behind what he does are pretty universal.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
by rocKStark5 on Oct 17, 2009 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This would depend on what you call hot.
I don’t consider those girls hot but obviously lots of guys do. His tricks work for them, I will give him that. But he and his girls are not my type.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Oct 17, 2009 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's my point
He specifically goes for his type, playmates, models, etc. Debating the “hotness” of these girls is just silly and not the point.
However, he also has huge success out in supermarkets, coffee houses, etc and obv he doesn’t go out looking like Marylin Manson and Dennis Rodman’s love child.
I almost always cringe at the shit I read or see in person and I’m always amazed what works. I used to think “oh my type of girl doesn’t fall for that” or “i don’t want a girl that falls for that” but I realized I was putting the ism in this is just a defense mechanism.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
by rocKStark5 on Oct 17, 2009 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's like boobs...
…which are a secondary characteristic that is generally a very good indicator that someone is a woman.
Generally.
by thepainguy on Oct 17, 2009 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
invoke ryan braun.
he’s good for something.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
by cardball on Oct 16, 2009 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did he go on the tour?
All the group tours meet just down the hall from my office. I noticed lots of visiting families today.
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
by andi_k on Oct 16, 2009 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah.
They had a funny tour guide who is pre-med, if that helps. It probably doesn’t.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Oct 16, 2009 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They train them to be funny.
I don’t know any of the tour guides (I work in graduate admissions and they work for undergrad admissions), but they all seem charming, funny, and personable.
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
by andi_k on Oct 16, 2009 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Apparently he was okay looking.
Since my first question was “Was he cute?” Most tour guides I’ve had on my tours have all been pretty personable but some are more funny than others.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Oct 16, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if it was the sharp-dressed young african-american man with stylish glasses
I thought he was cute. Yellow (errr…gold) v-neck sweater with a black oxford and cute striped tie. I just wanted to pinch his cheeks, he was so charming and adorable!
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
by andi_k on Oct 16, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No it wasn't him.
Although he sounds rather attractive.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Oct 16, 2009 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I always look forward to tour season and the new tour guides.
I enjoy seeing our best and brightest (now I know THAT definitely makes me sound old).
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
by andi_k on Oct 16, 2009 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Think they put an Expo's hat on him even though they are gone?
by Tom_Lawless_Bat_Flip on Oct 16, 2009 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They better.
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
by andi_k on Oct 16, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If for nothing else
than the heads shoulders knees and toes montage a few years back…
"The Cards lead this game tied 1-1." -Mike Shannon
by ducttape16 on Oct 17, 2009 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Depends on if you think Edmonds is HOF worthy
Guerrero WAR=32.2
Edmonds WAR=31.4
No excuses. No injuries. No "better luck next time"
Do it, and shut the f—- up.
-Reggie Jackson
by stlwcards on Oct 16, 2009 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is Vlad retiring tonight?
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Oct 16, 2009 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
jim rice made it.
definitely not for awhile, though.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
by cardball on Oct 16, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, but only if he explains why he has a Russian name.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Oct 16, 2009 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
took a boat
from cuba, landed in dominican?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
by cardball on Oct 16, 2009 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what a circus!
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Oct 16, 2009 10:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Derek Jeter is too cool for your earflap caps.
He doesn’t need that shit.
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
by andi_k on Oct 16, 2009 10:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
well, really
it’s only 45 degrees. cano is dressed like he’s playing in colorado and it’s 25
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Oct 16, 2009 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no, sir, sir
Robbie Cano is a NINJA
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
by rocKStark5 on Oct 17, 2009 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's not a very good ninja
we can see him.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 17, 2009 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe he's an ironic hipster ninja?
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
by rocKStark5 on Oct 17, 2009 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no collar
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 17, 2009 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that would be a douche ninja
if he was drinking a PBR we’d be better able to tell
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
by rocKStark5 on Oct 17, 2009 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unacceptable.
The Angels need to start winning. Now.
by peach concrete on Oct 16, 2009 10:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed. I'm having none of this three runs up bullshit.
fucking yankees
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
by andi_k on Oct 16, 2009 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So true.
This needs to stop now.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Oct 16, 2009 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so much for the "sabathia sucks in the playoffs" meme
it's Clydesdales vs Goats. Actually sums up Cards vs. Cubs quite nicely. -all4tookie
by SleepyCA on Oct 16, 2009 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know.
I was hoping that would continue. Now I’m just angry.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Oct 16, 2009 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sabathia only sucks in the playoffs when you know he's a rental and totally run him into the ground
by starting him on short rest at least four consecutive times leading up to the postseason.
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
by andi_k on Oct 16, 2009 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
nah, he was bad for the indians the year before, too
all small sample stuff, probably, but the media sure made a big deal out of it at the time.
it's Clydesdales vs Goats. Actually sums up Cards vs. Cubs quite nicely. -all4tookie
by SleepyCA on Oct 16, 2009 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, I didn't remember that. You're probably right.
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
by andi_k on Oct 16, 2009 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
texeira's eyes
looked like they were going to jump out of his head there
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Oct 16, 2009 11:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
WWL did a slo-mo of it once
it was bizarre
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 16, 2009 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lame...screw the Yankees
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
by andi_k on Oct 16, 2009 11:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
I just really enjoy life more when the Yankees lose.
by peach concrete on Oct 16, 2009 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LARussa is a terrible manager, I can’t wait till he’s gone.
by Notorious PSC on Oct 16, 2009 11:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes.
What a dark, dark era of Cardinals baseball this has been.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Oct 16, 2009 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
that 6ly should have been green by now damnit
pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels
by gdm426 on Oct 17, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
which cardinal managers
are you judging him against?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
by cardball on Oct 16, 2009 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What'd you do with Sully?
I let him go.
by thepainguy on Oct 16, 2009 11:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
When the Yankees are involved
I lose all interest in the ALCS. It’s like watching a bad rerun. I get sick of all the Yankee ass kissing by Joe & Tim and the media. Bring on a salary cap so maybe the Orioles or Blue Jays or even the Royals can see post season play again. The American League is boring and LAME!! Lame I say.
Boy a frosty cold Budweiser would be great about now"…long pause…then an "aahhh". --Mike Shannon
by KYCards on Oct 16, 2009 11:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The Royals aren't bad b/c of a lack of a salary cap
they’re bad b/c of not having a salary bottom. And the Jays tried spending money, and wound up with two of the worst contracts of all time in Vernon Wells and Alex Rios. And The O’s are just a disaster.
The Cardinals made the postseason seven times this decade… do you think the rest of the country should hate them because of it?
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Oct 16, 2009 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL I figured I would get this reaction
Boy a frosty cold Budweiser would be great about now"…long pause…then an "aahhh". --Mike Shannon
by KYCards on Oct 16, 2009 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
there's always....
http://www.flipflopflyin.com/flipflopflyball/info-ticketprices.html
or
or
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/242713-how-to-fix-a-problem-that-few-see/show_full
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 17, 2009 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
last: the chart, not the article.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 17, 2009 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know "salary cap" is a dirty word here
but this really does have to make a person laugh.
Yankees payroll: $201,449,289
Red Sox payroll: $122,696,000 (The next AL team closest to the Yankees)
Angels payroll: $113,709,000
Blue Jays payroll: $79,857,502
Orioles payroll: $67,101,667
Royals payroll: $70,908,333
I know, I know… shame on the owners of the other American League clubs for not keeping up with the Yankees. The other owners are bums…yada yada.
Boy a frosty cold Budweiser would be great about now"…long pause…then an "aahhh". --Mike Shannon
by KYCards on Oct 17, 2009 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Quit being successful, Yankees!
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Oct 17, 2009 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
HFS I have this card!

Is it worth more now?
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Oct 17, 2009 12:05 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
LESS
by the way, how much you want for it? give you a delino deshields, straight up.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
by cardball on Oct 17, 2009 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How greasy is it?
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Oct 17, 2009 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
appraised condition
mint olive oil
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
by cardball on Oct 17, 2009 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, I'm looking for CRISCO greasy.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Oct 17, 2009 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
correction
virgin olive oil. sorry, just dug out the card.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
by cardball on Oct 17, 2009 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is he wearing the helmet with double ear flaps...
if so I just got paid this week and need to make some money disappear…
"The Cards lead this game tied 1-1." -Mike Shannon
by ducttape16 on Oct 17, 2009 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
has rasmus girl been one upped in the fan music video department?
I'm like a polygon, I'm edgy.
"OHHHHH!!!!!!! IT TASTES. SO. GOOD!!!!!!!!!!"
-BOOOOOOOOG
by slu on Oct 17, 2009 12:11 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Oct 17, 2009 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that makes me angry
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Oct 17, 2009 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It also makes the baby Jesus cry...
that was awful…
"The Cards lead this game tied 1-1." -Mike Shannon
by ducttape16 on Oct 17, 2009 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did anyone see Where The Wild Things Are?
I’m really excited to see it, but guarantee I’ll cry for no reason.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Oct 17, 2009 12:38 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I've recently taken the opinion
that until Hollywood starts coming up with new ideas I’m not going to see their movies…
"The Cards lead this game tied 1-1." -Mike Shannon
by ducttape16 on Oct 17, 2009 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's my favorite childhood book
adapted by my favorite current novelist, directed by my favorite non-Coen brother director, with a kick ass soundtrack, and my sister said it was darker than she thought it would be for kids. So far, this vehicle excites it.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Oct 17, 2009 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just would like to see original movies from time to time...
My favorite of this was the new Casino Royale where they took pretty much all the names from the Woody Allen movie and no one noticed…
"The Cards lead this game tied 1-1." -Mike Shannon
by ducttape16 on Oct 17, 2009 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The reviews have been really positive.
They say the first 30 minutes is stunning.
by peach concrete on Oct 17, 2009 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, I should qualify that,
having just taken a trip to rottentomatoes. The reviews have been fairly positive.
by peach concrete on Oct 17, 2009 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Were you a fan of the book?
I appreciate it now, but I never warmed to it as a kid. I was a much bigger fan of The Night Kitchen. I haven’t decided if I’ll see the movie – it’s supposed to be beautiful.
by peach concrete on Oct 17, 2009 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you haven't heard the Adam Carolla rant on that book
it’s worth a listen… He did it in one of his recent podcasts… funny stuff.
"The Cards lead this game tied 1-1." -Mike Shannon
by ducttape16 on Oct 17, 2009 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Everything sucks, ha ha !
listen to everything but me cause it sucks, ha ha!
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Oct 17, 2009 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In fairness the post on the
stuff white people like blog is also humorous… http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/2009/07/13/127-where-the-wild-things-are/
"The Cards lead this game tied 1-1." -Mike Shannon
by ducttape16 on Oct 17, 2009 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is worse than the time I said I liked Dire Straits.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Oct 17, 2009 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is so funny.
My favorite is when it says if you received no notice that the trailer was out you are currently in possession of no white friends. It makes me feel like a treasured possession.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Oct 17, 2009 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
in fairness
that book was about 15 years behind your time.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Oct 17, 2009 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But it's like Goodnight Moon.
A staple. Everyone reads it. My children will read this book (or have it read to them until they can recite it back to me while pretending they’re reading).
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by ClemsonGirl on Oct 17, 2009 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Goodnight mouse.
Goodnight house.
by peach concrete on Oct 17, 2009 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
your children won't even have opposable thumbs
if you marry gdm.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Oct 17, 2009 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Man,
kickin’ a guy when he’s not even around. Harsh!
by peach concrete on Oct 17, 2009 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
tough but fair
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by gdm426 on Oct 17, 2009 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BWAHAHAHA
As it stands, every single white person on earth either owns, has owned, or is dreaming about owning a Vespa Scooter. And why not?
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by ClemsonGirl on Oct 17, 2009 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's a fantastic blog...
For me it’s fun to read and see which points hit a bit too close to home…
"The Cards lead this game tied 1-1." -Mike Shannon
by ducttape16 on Oct 17, 2009 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup
The vespa scooter one didn’t get me, but I’m guilty of camping, Mad Men and Moleskine notebooks (although I’ve moved on to a swedish brand of notebook, which is probably even whiter).
by peach concrete on Oct 17, 2009 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So far...
I’m not very white.
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by ClemsonGirl on Oct 17, 2009 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you're a little young for the demographic.
It’s like you five years ago.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Oct 17, 2009 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But then I was younger.
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by ClemsonGirl on Oct 17, 2009 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah and it's not what 15 year old white girls like blog
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Oct 17, 2009 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm still confused.
It was written five years ago?
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by ClemsonGirl on Oct 17, 2009 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it was not started yesterday.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Oct 17, 2009 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know that.
But they are still writing it right now.
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by ClemsonGirl on Oct 17, 2009 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh for fucks sake.
go back to the start of this dumbness and the reason that you’re “not very white.” is that the blog is about white people ~ 5 years out of college.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Oct 17, 2009 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm being facetious.
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by ClemsonGirl on Oct 17, 2009 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
by white people the site means the aforementioned "hipsters"
which reminds me of the Hipster Olympics
I'm like a polygon, I'm edgy.
"OHHHHH!!!!!!! IT TASTES. SO. GOOD!!!!!!!!!!"
-BOOOOOOOOG
by slu on Oct 17, 2009 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh here we go...
Sea Salt!
My favorite line: In fact, it’s one of the few foodstuffs that white people will actually bring with them when they move. This is because sea salt is expensive and while white people have money, they didn’t get that way by throwing away $7 packages of salt.
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by ClemsonGirl on Oct 17, 2009 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is Trader Joe's in there somewhere?
Cause that’s where I buy my sea salt.
by peach concrete on Oct 17, 2009 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes.
It was mentioned.
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by ClemsonGirl on Oct 17, 2009 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i make my own salt
it’s incredible. really.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
by cardball on Oct 17, 2009 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
this has the potential to be either awesome or disgusting
so are you gonna share already or what?
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Oct 17, 2009 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's on my list
of people I’d most like to meet, someone who would tell me that in all earnestness…i have a scenario where it’s a guy and another where it’s a girl.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
by cardball on Oct 17, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm so confused
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Oct 17, 2009 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
to paraphrase dave duncan
it’s just a conversation i’d really like to have, for this might just be the most interesting person in the world. If this day ever comes, I have no idea if it will be a guy or a girl, so I’ve considered both scenarios playing out…if that helps.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
by cardball on Oct 17, 2009 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just wanted to know the story behind the salt
I’m more lost than EVAR now
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Oct 18, 2009 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the only things i know about salt are
is it’s put on roads & sidewalk to melt ice & snow.
you don’t put a lot on your food
and you throw it over your shoulder
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by gdm426 on Oct 18, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now I'm really confused.
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by ClemsonGirl on Oct 17, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks duct.
Been reading it all morning. White people are so silly.
by Tom_Lawless_Bat_Flip on Oct 17, 2009 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That and one random x-mas book that noone would have ever heard of
were my #1 and #2 books as a little barely ltierate child.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Oct 17, 2009 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the book was not in my childhood repertoire...
so i have no inclination to see it on those grounds….however Jonez has made some of my favorite movies so i think its worth seeing for that reason….
now if only they made an alexander and the horrible terrible no good very bad day movie……
I'm like a polygon, I'm edgy.
"OHHHHH!!!!!!! IT TASTES. SO. GOOD!!!!!!!!!!"
-BOOOOOOOOG
by slu on Oct 17, 2009 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i would jizz in my pants.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Oct 17, 2009 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My wife and son saw it today.
They really liked it.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
by The Continental on Oct 17, 2009 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I loved that book as a child.
I have no recollection of what it is about but I remember I loved it.
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by ClemsonGirl on Oct 17, 2009 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
when I was in 2nd grade EVERYBODY did their "book project" on this book
being cool counter culture I did Madeline’s Rescue.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
by rocKStark5 on Oct 17, 2009 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i had never even heard of this book till i saw the previews for the movie
i have no interest in reading or seeing the movie
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by gdm426 on Oct 17, 2009 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
can i just say humane society ads with sad looking puppies and kittens should be banned?
they pull way too hard at the heart strings and really tarnish my machismo.
I'm like a polygon, I'm edgy.
"OHHHHH!!!!!!! IT TASTES. SO. GOOD!!!!!!!!!!"
-BOOOOOOOOG
by slu on Oct 17, 2009 1:16 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Awwww...
The Sarah MacGlaughlin commercials make you sad?
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by ClemsonGirl on Oct 17, 2009 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
dude...its not fair
I'm like a polygon, I'm edgy.
"OHHHHH!!!!!!! IT TASTES. SO. GOOD!!!!!!!!!!"
-BOOOOOOOOG
by slu on Oct 17, 2009 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just going to point out
that some girls (and Tony LaRussa, see we’re on topic) may find this cute. Work it.
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by ClemsonGirl on Oct 17, 2009 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“hey there….sad puppies make me sad….you like?”
/hidingbehindsarcasmtoreassertmoremanlypersona
I'm like a polygon, I'm edgy.
"OHHHHH!!!!!!! IT TASTES. SO. GOOD!!!!!!!!!!"
-BOOOOOOOOG
by slu on Oct 17, 2009 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes. Just like that.
Also be sure that you’re wearing your upside visor to attract their attention. Preferably in lime greem or perhaps bright orange.
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by ClemsonGirl on Oct 17, 2009 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
proven formula
I'm like a polygon, I'm edgy.
"OHHHHH!!!!!!! IT TASTES. SO. GOOD!!!!!!!!!!"
-BOOOOOOOOG
by slu on Oct 17, 2009 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
here's my puppy

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by gdm426 on Oct 17, 2009 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's cute!
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by ClemsonGirl on Oct 17, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's very sad & very lonely
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by gdm426 on Oct 17, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he needs some Scotch
that always takes away my sad, and makes me care less about the lonely
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Oct 18, 2009 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i got my baby bro some 18yr old Glenlivet for his b-day today
if it was socially acceptable, i’d bathe in it & wear it as a cologne
and of course drink it 24/7/365
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by gdm426 on Oct 18, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love dogs
but her voice makes me want to stab people, so i figure he ad campaign is a wash.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Oct 17, 2009 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
remember
people are animals too.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
by cardball on Oct 17, 2009 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
animals that deserved to be stabbed.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Oct 17, 2009 1:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
then i suppose we're talking degree
mutilation?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
by cardball on Oct 17, 2009 1:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i love TLR
and dont really understand the hatred some have for him. i feel like if he leaves, those same haters will hate the new guy even more. coincidentally, i finished “three nights in august” about an hour ago. solid book
by bigmcq16 on Oct 18, 2009 2:38 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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