How to spend your winter vacation
by DanUpBaby on Oct 12, 2009 2:00 AM EDT
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The season's over. No more worrying about Joel Pineiro's wavering devotion to the sinker, no more worrying about Albert Pujols's elbow, no more—well, it's probably still safe to worry about Chris Carpenter's elbow. I won't blame you for that.
In any case, the practical issue that you'll come face to face with pretty soon—forgetting, momentarily, about the emotional void, the arbitrary belief and camaraderie that comes with being a baseball fan—is this: you're going to have more free time than you know what to do with. And I'd like to tell you how to use it.
OCTOBER
WATCH BASEBALL
You'll want to take the rest of the postseason off. Don't do it. Pretty soon there will be no baseball at all, and you'll be left alone with handegg for months on end. The people you small-talk to about sports on a regular basis will begin to mention Brett Favre more than you can handle. (Did you hear he came back? Even though he said he wouldn't? Whoa!)
Thanks to the World Baseball Classic, there's even more baseball left than usual—the World Series will stretch, at a minimum, to November 1. This is your grace period. Before long big-screen TV ads will begin, once again, to euphemistically suggest that you make your Big Game Party the best it could possibly be. And then you'll know that you've missed the last 12-21 chances to say that it isn't football season until the last Solemn Montage is narrated by Joe Buck.
NOVEMBER
GROW A MUSTACHE
There are a lot of great things about facial hair, but the greatest is this: it's warm. With no baseball to talk about, you're going to stop talking so much. With less movement, your lips are going to freeze. Frostbite is a precursor to hypothermia, and hypothermia kills up to 700 people each year.
The mustache you grow in November, be it majestic and evocative or basically ceremonial, will connect you to the season that was. And by November it will, once again, be something you'd like to remember. Roll the clip show:
- Skip Schumaker became a second baseman. I don't mean to overstate the case, here, but before it actually happened this would have been basically equivalent to the Cardinals actually trading Chris Duncan to the Giants in exchange for Matt Cain, or Vicente Padilla actually being handsome. Much like Ryan Franklin finally becoming unsuitable for the closer's role, it was a VEB meme that somehow exerted its will upon reality.
- Colby Rasmus! The Cardinals have had this guy—can't quite recall his name, there's a C and an R somewhere—installed at the top of their prospect rankings since about 2005. After a rough 2008 he established himself as chief mancrush (and real-crush?) of 2009, playing smooth defense and showing spotty, but exciting, flashes of the smooth offense that made him the Cardinals' first step back into the Toolsy High Schooler market after the Chris Lambert Draft.
- Chris Carpenter and Adam Wainwright!
- And last but, in the case of any memories evoked by the mustache-as-Madeleine, almost certainly first, Brendan Ryan went from a utility infielder who'd had a fluky year with the bat in 2007 to the best defensive shortstop in the National League. And to our benefit, it couldn't have happened to a more interesting guy. Hopefully his wiffle ball partner can make the trip back north in 2010.
I'm not going to tell you how long you should keep your mustache, chronologically or physically, but I do know that it will warm both your lip and your heart. And in the cruel days after baseball cedes ESPN to the NFL, and the weather slips from jackets to coats, you'll need both of its benefits.
DECEMBER
MERRY CHRISTMAS!
You can take Christmas day off—watch some basketball if you want, have a nice family get-together, listen to Bing Crosby before White Christmas has to go back on the shelf. But before that you have the Winter Meetings, and there's a non-zero chance you will have a Christmas gift to discuss underneath the Busch Stadium tree.
This year it's in the tiny resort town of Indianapolis; Mozeliak doesn't have a lot of faberge eggs left to deal, but there are some interesting free agency cases on the table. Will the team have Matt Holliday on the rolls long-term by December? Will Mo kick the tires on Adrian Beltre? I don't know; that's what makes the Winter Meetings so exciting and, every other year or so, ultimately disappointing.
Hopefully somebody makes some big move, because by December things have started to settle down in the baseball world. You might find yourself spending more time with the mustache wax every morning, straining for the effects that used to come so easily. You might find yourself, before long, in January.
JANUARY
CRY
I'm serious. Sob until there is nothing left, and then cry some more. Put on that James Blunt album that touched you so deeply and watch the end of Casablanca (no spoilers.) It's been two months since baseball ended. And it's going to be another two months! What's the deal with that? So let it all out. Recharge your batteries. Play a game of MVP Baseball 2005, if you have your Gamecube handy.
Last year—well, last year we did community projections, we talked about exciting new acquisition Khalil Greene, I filled out a Cardinals-only Hall of Fame ballot, and things generally proceeded as though there would never be baseball again. But after January finally crawls out of the picture there's February. And in February pitchers and catchers report.
FEBRUARY
GET IN THE BEST SHAPE OF YOUR LIFE
This is really important, because everybody else is going to be. In February you're going to start feeling the lack of warmth—it's close to March, which is close to April, which is pretty warm half the time, and the transitive property of warmth doesn't reach that far but you're going to think it should. It'll only get not-warmer when pitchers and catchers report around Valentine's Day.
And these pitchers and catchers—well, you're going to be impressed, to say the least. Bryan Anderson has put on twenty pounds of muscle; on the satellite fields by Roger Dean Stadium certain unnamed scouts have seen him hit baseballs over two fences at the same time. Yadier Molina's been sprinting all year—he plans on doing suicides every time he grounds into a double play, even if they have to stop play until he's finished running up and down the baseline. Matt Pagnozzi hit a double recently, but you guys probably didn't see it, but man, it was great.
Don't even get me started about the pitchers. Unless you want to know about Gary Daley, that is, who spent the whole offseason working with Greg Maddux. Jason Motte's been throwing a curveball lately that looks mighty fine, and Kyle McClellan? Well, he's been working with Gary Daley all offseason, so his command should be in peak form by the end of spring.
This is it: the peak of the offseason. All the ruminating and re-ruminating and sobbing has culminated in the official month of unbridled optimism, the first month of the rest of your career year. The minor leaguers are pushing the big leaguers, and the big leaguers are preparing to have career years. If you're not in the best shape of your life in February, well, you aren't trying.
MARCH
WAIT IT OUT
Now the games are on the radio; now cuts are being made and the rosters start to take shape. The vacation's almost over, and the weather's almost better. All these almosts are going to make it seem basically uncharitable that March has 31 days and April only has 30. But you've spent the last five months playing MVP 2005; you can take it from here.
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Yeah, well I was fist to use that fist. So HA!
BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
by vexedtechie on Oct 12, 2009 7:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
meme's of the past must die
fist as bad as first for me. Actually it is worst since it seems to be accepted.
by FlimtotheFlam on Oct 12, 2009 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Indeed
It’s over guys. So is 6.
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Oct 12, 2009 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Uh-oh
I’m not sure I can stop that one.
by peach concrete on Oct 12, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
6 is a meme that can't be stopped
Seriously.
Looking forward to Cardinals baseball in 2010!
Feel free to follow me on Twitter: @zoomzoomj88
by zoomzoomj88 on Oct 12, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes it can
Unless that commercial comes back next year, it’s over baby.
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Oct 12, 2009 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Guess I'll try
but I gotta do it one final time.
Looking forward to Cardinals baseball in 2010!
Feel free to follow me on Twitter: @zoomzoomj88
by zoomzoomj88 on Oct 12, 2009 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I will keep beating that dead horse...
"The Cards lead this game tied 1-1." -Mike Shannon
by ducttape16 on Oct 12, 2009 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
betcha 2 bits
it’ll be back next year. They’ve been running that promo for 2 years now. This was the first year for the song, and with the popularity (is that really the right term?) of it, there’s no way it goes away.
They were even playing morans with their karaoke versions of it in the stadium between innings.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
by scoot on Oct 12, 2009 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, let us wait and see then, hmm?
"I’m going to come after you." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Oct 12, 2009 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it will be the highlight of the season
god, i hope not
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
by scoot on Oct 13, 2009 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
YOU'RE OVER!
YOU’RE ALL OVER!
eh, i don’t care. i stumbled across that last night & thought i’d throw it up considering i’d never thrown one up before.
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by gdm426 on Oct 12, 2009 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wILL THERE STILL BE DATING ADVICE?
"Everyone in here comes to the yard ready to play every day. I’ll take this group, any day until the day I die." ~
Ryan Fucking Ludwick
by RiverRat on Oct 12, 2009 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think that is a meme
But anything goes in the off season
by FlimtotheFlam on Oct 12, 2009 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Except discussions about combining Premier League football and MLB
Don't argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. - anon.
by Solanus on Oct 12, 2009 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How did I miss that?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Oct 12, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know throwing them all away is a waste of some really good memes.
Or would that be memii?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 12, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ummmm spot on the MVP 2005 on Game Cube reference....
I’ve actually done that the past several winters. Definitely deserving of an elongated LOL…ell oh ell.
I'm like a polygon, I'm edgy.
"OHHHHH!!!!!!! IT TASTES. SO. GOOD!!!!!!!!!!"
-BOOOOOOOOG
by slu on Oct 12, 2009 2:46 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
MVP Baseball 2005
best baseball game ever! I still play in on old XBOX. That and Tiger Woods ’07.
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
by albrtfn on Oct 12, 2009 3:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
still play it on my ps2, i really LOL
"Chuck Norris CAN divide by zero"
by elirock83 on Oct 12, 2009 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is MVP 2005 the one with Pujols on it?
I have either 2005 or 2004 because I friend got tired of it and gave it to me on extended loan (which means he’s probably never getting it back). I haven’t ever gotten around to playing it all that much though.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Oct 12, 2009 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
05 has ManRam on the cover
Chicago Cubs: The first century was funny...this second one is just sad...
by nomar34 on Oct 12, 2009 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK, must be a different one then
Thanks
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Oct 12, 2009 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
MVP 05 is only good
if you love hearing the Red Sox theme song over and over and over
"Nothing in life is certain but death, taxes, and Albert Pujols batting .300/30/100."
by imfromstl on Oct 12, 2009 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
not a bad song really
but I like it better than MVP 04. No diss to Albert, MVP 05 just looks better (plus we have a good Mulder and MV3 on the team)
Looking forward to Cardinals baseball in 2010!
Feel free to follow me on Twitter: @zoomzoomj88
by zoomzoomj88 on Oct 12, 2009 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I moved to Boston in 05
Every night at a bar was either U2 or Tessie…all…night…long.
I thought the batters eye feature in MVP 05 was cool.
"Nothing in life is certain but death, taxes, and Albert Pujols batting .300/30/100."
by imfromstl on Oct 12, 2009 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think 04 is the one with Pu on the cover
John Smoltz for Cardinals' closer 2010!!
by jd is legend on Oct 12, 2009 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
Looking forward to Cardinals baseball in 2010!
Feel free to follow me on Twitter: @zoomzoomj88
by zoomzoomj88 on Oct 12, 2009 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
2004 was a good year for parts of MV3 in video game land
Red Means Go.
by bigwilley18 on Oct 12, 2009 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've got both MVP 04 and 05
And I’ve played 05 every now and then on the PS2
Looking forward to Cardinals baseball in 2010!
Feel free to follow me on Twitter: @zoomzoomj88
by zoomzoomj88 on Oct 12, 2009 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
mvp 05 on the ps2
mvp is a legend, just started up a fantasy drafted roster franchise. pretty much after the debacle that was the nlds.
my roster is amazing, if it were a present day roster. in mvp? kind of mediocre
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
Proud Contributor to the Night of the Longest Train Wreck Ever 9/10-9/11/09
by tgreenfield on Oct 12, 2009 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i hate how that happens
sometimes i cheat and edit them so that their stars are higher so they get better in the offseason – like Matt Pagnozzi in the above post.
Matthew, Mark, Lugo, and John.
by BVHeck on Oct 12, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think I have that game
on gamecube, I’ll have to bust it out again
Positronic Upgraded Juggernaut Optimized for Logical Sabotage
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 12, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have that on PS2
and I’m gonna play it in a few min.
Looking forward to Cardinals baseball in 2010!
Feel free to follow me on Twitter: @zoomzoomj88
by zoomzoomj88 on Oct 12, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you are cruel, danup. very cruel.
we know these cold months are coming, we’ve lived through them many times, yet you still feel compelled to force us to think about them. Boo.
OTOH, we have so much to look forward to… I can’t wait to see Jaime pitch next march, personally. And Joe Mather is going to have one hell of a comeback season.
it's Clydesdales vs Goats. Actually sums up Cards vs. Cubs quite nicely. -all4tookie
by SleepyCA on Oct 12, 2009 3:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
you misspelled that
JAIME GARCIA
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2009 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i watched
jayson werth tonite. been a fan for three years. think of him every time i see mather.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
by cardball on Oct 12, 2009 5:30 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If only I were in Australia
I could wait it out on the beach. But then I’d have to sit through cricket games, and I don’t know if I can deal with that.
Don't hurt me, I'm just a rookie fan!
by Chewy on Oct 12, 2009 5:39 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
but you'd have kangaroo burger
and that has to mean something.
it's Clydesdales vs Goats. Actually sums up Cards vs. Cubs quite nicely. -all4tookie
by SleepyCA on Oct 12, 2009 5:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i am in australia...
studying abroad by the beach. had to wake up at 9 AM hungover to watch all the games. luckily its turning to summer here so, youre right, its not too bad. as for the kangaroo, its really pretty good
by bigmcq16 on Oct 12, 2009 8:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is exactly why
back in 1985 I started recording ballgames during the summer in much the same way squirrels hoard acorns — to get me through the long winter months.
For me, baseball season never ends. Classic games, ordinary regular season games (all Cardinals wins), whatever, popping one in the DVD makes it all seem warmer and better despite the cold outside.
by Michael_68_1999 on Oct 12, 2009 5:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I didn't know
HL got a new screenname
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
by albrtfn on Oct 12, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not Hardcore Legend
Although I think I did get him around 10 of my Cardinals games from 1985.
In my offseason, the Cardinals never lose a game — I don’t keep Cardinals losses, except for the postseason, just to complete the collection. I don’t think I’ll be rewatching the NLDS any time soon.
by Michael_68_1999 on Oct 12, 2009 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's cool
I didn’t know there were so many people that recorded all the games. It’s sweet you never have to watch a bad game in the offseason!
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
by albrtfn on Oct 13, 2009 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
watch the end of Casablanca (no spoilers.)
So, what, Rick Blaine was Kaiser Soze ALL ALONG???? Wow.
Felonius Monk - bitching to contact since 2008
by Felonius_Monk on Oct 12, 2009 7:37 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
In the original ending
Rick and Kaiser get married. The test audiences just felt that it seemed “off” but the more tragic ending seemed perfect, and the rest is history.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Oct 12, 2009 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
another movie i have never seen
i think i know what i should be doing this winter
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by gdm426 on Oct 12, 2009 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You've never seen The Usual Suspects either?
FFS gdm, there’s no excuse. Netflix brings you movies in the mail, then all you have to do is convince your mom to bring them downstairs. You don’t even have to leave the basement.
"Everyone in here comes to the yard ready to play every day. I’ll take this group, any day until the day I die." ~
Ryan Fucking Ludwick
by RiverRat on Oct 12, 2009 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i thought they were talking about casablanca?
i have seen the usual suspects. twice actually.
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by gdm426 on Oct 12, 2009 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My bad...long day....Kaiser Soze threw me off
And I needed to watch Suspects twice, so I could figure out what happened the first time through.
"Everyone in here comes to the yard ready to play every day. I’ll take this group, any day until the day I die." ~
Ryan Fucking Ludwick
by RiverRat on Oct 12, 2009 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's inexcusable too
f’in gdm.
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Oct 12, 2009 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm going to work on it over the winter, and come next spring
i’ll be a dude & here’s lookin at you kid monster
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by gdm426 on Oct 12, 2009 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shocked! I am Shocked, gdm, to find ignorance of Casablanca on
these boards!
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Oct 12, 2009 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i've lived a very sheltered life
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by gdm426 on Oct 12, 2009 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's even worse
casablanca is what I use to live my sheltered life.
by DanUpBaby on Oct 12, 2009 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Play it, Dan
Play “As time goes by”
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Oct 12, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You played it for mattybobo, you can play it for me!
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Oct 13, 2009 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You must remember, friend
Each season has an end
Each playoff is a roll of the die
The sabermetric things apply
As time goes by
And when two franchises meet
One team must taste defeat
A case of do or die
No matter what the future brings
As time goes by
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Oct 14, 2009 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
you have no idea
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by gdm426 on Oct 12, 2009 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think I can grow a mustache.
And if I could, you probably wouldn’t want to know about it. ;)
by cardsgirl95 on Oct 12, 2009 7:40 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I would love to grow a stache
but it would never compare with Brendon Ryan’s cop mustache.
Actually, I thought I saw his stache curving upwards at the tips into a old tymey villian mustache.
by graffin on Oct 12, 2009 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is how I'll spend my winter...
“People ask me what I do in winter when there’s no baseball. I’ll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring.”
-Rogers Hornsby
BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
by vexedtechie on Oct 12, 2009 7:54 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
all i picture is a dog anxiously waiting for its master to come home for the day
I'm like a polygon, I'm edgy.
"OHHHHH!!!!!!! IT TASTES. SO. GOOD!!!!!!!!!!"
-BOOOOOOOOG
by slu on Oct 12, 2009 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You mean
I cut the sleeves off because it looks awesome. Now get your head in the game!
by the red baron on Oct 12, 2009 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sad.
"I’m going to come after you." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Oct 12, 2009 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aughh, I've seen that episode probably twenty times
and it still makes me cry every time.
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
"POOL TEMPERATURES FUCK YEAH"--tgreenfield, The September 10th-11th VEB Off-Topic Explosion
by andi_k on Oct 12, 2009 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Didn't look at it, but
$100 says it’s futurama
(Internet dollars, of course)
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Oct 12, 2009 3:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Ha! You settled for internet dollars, when you could have won real ones.
Offseason Rumors : Me :: Unicorn Blood : Voldemort
by Cardinals645 on Oct 12, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh my god
that’s the most depressing thing i’ve seen in a long, long time
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by gdm426 on Oct 12, 2009 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i haven't seen it in a year
i’m depressed just thinking about it
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2009 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i mean wow, that hurts just watching it
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by gdm426 on Oct 12, 2009 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i laughed the first time i saw it......
I'm like a polygon, I'm edgy.
"OHHHHH!!!!!!! IT TASTES. SO. GOOD!!!!!!!!!!"
-BOOOOOOOOG
by slu on Oct 12, 2009 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This may be the TWSS of the year
It’s definitely the clubhouse leader for this off-season
John Smoltz for Cardinals' closer 2010!!
by jd is legend on Oct 12, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
dalton duncan just flipped you off
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by gdm426 on Oct 12, 2009 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Futurama is good like that.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
by hazel on Oct 12, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
NLCS
That Phillies/Dodgers rematch ought to be pretty good. I’m looking forward to it. You can actually hear FOX execs salivating at the prospect of a Torre’s Dodgers vs. the Yanks. I think both L.A. and Philly can give New York a run for its money in the Series. After all, L.A. will have reason to use that DH on their roster…
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Oct 12, 2009 9:44 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
the series isn't over
/still rooting for the rox
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 12, 2009 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and NY still has to play LAA before they get to the series
and Bobby Abreu will NOT go down easy!
Chicago Cubs: The first century was funny...this second one is just sad...
by nomar34 on Oct 12, 2009 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's what she said?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2009 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
fuck colorado
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by gdm426 on Oct 12, 2009 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In a way, I hate to make a statement like this. And feel free to offer arguments why I'm wrong, because I hope I am.
But has the umpiring this post-season been unusually bad? Is it merely the facts that more “pitch track” type devices are actually being utilized on television, and the fickle nature of chance that has made bad calls occur in some very important moments this post-season, that are conspiring to provide this illusion?
I had been on the fence for a long time about how I felt with regards to expanding the use of instant replay for the purpose of finding out what actually occurs during baseball games to correct bad calls by the umpire, but no longer. I am soundly convinced that there needs to be more opportunity for calls to be reversed. Does anybody really think it’s a good thing that fair balls are called foul, or that batters are struck out looking by pitches six inches inside? If we have repeated mistakes for a century because we had no better alternative, should we just go on repeating them?
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Oct 12, 2009 9:49 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hmm..this debate has strangely familiar parallels:
OPS
It’s not perfect. But on the plus side, it’s not batting average. OPS gives you at least some idea of how patient and how powerful a hitter is. Unless, of course, you’re a hidebound 263-year-old who enjoys ridiculing any advancement in human knowledge. In that case, OPS is your three-letter way to sneer at anyone who dares question the value of batting average, which was good enough for George Sisler and will be good enough for you, dammit.
When I was a kid hustling autographs at Wrigley Field, the game was all about W’s and L’s. Now it’s about WHIP and VORP and OPS and BABIP.
I just don’t get it, man. No one ever said: “When I was a kid, if we were going to cut off your leg we’d give you a shot of whiskey and a rope to bite down on, and we’d just take a dirty hacksaw and just hack away, outside, on the ground. Why do all these nerds keep talking about ‘anaesthesia’ and ‘sterilization?!’”
Free Milton
by all4tookie on Oct 12, 2009 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heh...
Fire Joe Morgan? I feel like I’ve read that before.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Oct 12, 2009 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
Ah, how I miss them. Their cameo on Deadspin was such a tease.
Free Milton
by all4tookie on Oct 12, 2009 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where are these quotes from?
FJM?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Oct 12, 2009 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
See, to me, umpiring is like breakfast sausage...
in that,
1. I personally don’t like it very much, but I’ll eat it when there isn’t a more palatable alternative (or when the idiots at McD’s give me a Sausage McMuffin when I ordered an Egg McMuffin).
2. I don’t want to see or know how it’s made, because, deep down, I know it’s awful.
and 3. In the end, I’d really much rather have bacon*. It’s good, delicious, and I know what it’s made of.
*In this example, bacon represents a computerized umpiring system that doesn’t miss calls.
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by Cardinals645 on Oct 12, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
MMMMMMMMM.....
computerized bacon
"Baseball has been good to me since I quit trying to play it." - Whitey Herzog
by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Oct 12, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
making you jealous?
Looking forward to Cardinals baseball in 2010!
Feel free to follow me on Twitter: @zoomzoomj88
by zoomzoomj88 on Oct 12, 2009 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hungry
"Baseball has been good to me since I quit trying to play it." - Whitey Herzog
by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Oct 12, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, yes you are.
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by Cardinals645 on Oct 12, 2009 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i would be if not for filling up on the delicious piggie not even 1 hour ago
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by gdm426 on Oct 12, 2009 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hate the instant replay......
I’m a firm believer in all or nothing. A solo homerun that may get overturned is no more important than a blown call at first, or a ball dropped in the outfield with runners on…
I will merely mention Denkinger, and not post that photo, but what about a couple of weeks ago?
Bring on the robots, or throw it all out with the wash.
"Everyone in here comes to the yard ready to play every day. I’ll take this group, any day until the day I die." ~
Ryan Fucking Ludwick
by RiverRat on Oct 12, 2009 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
See, I just don't see them ever going with all robotic umping
for lack of a better term. Human umpires are going to be there. So I’d rather see expanded use of video because I think that’s more realistic and a better option that none at all. It’s not a perfect solution by any means.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Oct 12, 2009 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't see how you can review...
ball/strike calls…unless you give the managers so many “challenges” a game (like football). Fair/foul calls should be reviewable…just ask Mauer and the Twins.
"Don't do anything till I get back!" - Jesus to the Cubs
by cardzfanbub on Oct 12, 2009 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I"m not sure how it would work, either
It would have to be limited somehow, maybe some system could be set up that would allow for an umpire to be consistently “wrong”, but that could reverse a call if the ump calls a pitch a ball when the exactly same location was a strike earlier in the plat appearance, something like that. Again, who knows if anything like that is feasible.
Clearly, as you say, the fair/foul thing is long overdue. There’s simply no reason we should have to tolerate bad calls where it’s possibly to objectively determine what actually happened. I think most out/safe calls could probably be solved given the right camera angles as well.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Oct 12, 2009 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just find, that the way it is now is a silly double standard.
Homeruns are obviously the only deciding factor in a baseball game. It either needs to be fixed, or scrapped all together.
"Everyone in here comes to the yard ready to play every day. I’ll take this group, any day until the day I die." ~
Ryan Fucking Ludwick
by RiverRat on Oct 12, 2009 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I'm with you in that it's silly that home runs are the only play that can be reversed
Although wasn’t part of the point to introduce the concept with home runs as kind of a test run, to see if it worked out on a smaller scale before going all in with it?
Anyway, I want to see some sort of improvement, as a fan.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Oct 12, 2009 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Weird, Selig just commented on this today.
I don’t really have any desire to increase the amount of replay, period. This goes on every time there’s a controversial call. I understand the Phil Cuzzi call and others. But frankly, I’m quite satisfied with the way things are. We need to do a little work, clean up some things. But do I think we need more replay? No. Baseball is not the kind of game that can have interminable delays.
I would argue that baseball is exactly the kind of game that can have interminable delays.
Free Milton
by all4tookie on Oct 12, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Interminable?
A replay ump in a booth watching a call and relaying that back to the umps would be that hard? Make it a 30 second maximum, if you can’t tell in 30 seconds you can’t tell.
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Oct 12, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Quite satisfied with the way things are?
Is he serious? I wonder how satisfied he would be if attendance figures dropped like a rock next season?
It’s all about the money for Bud.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on Oct 12, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is Selig's Problem
He sways in the winds of public opinion. And he’s gotten blowback from the blowhard baseball writers who wish things never changed.
Here’s a quote I just made up as stated by an imaginary one of these self-annointed protectors of the game:
Pitch counts, expansion, the Wild Card, free agency, television, helmets, catching gear, replay…All of these so-called “improvements”—and there are more, mind you, than what I just listed—have besmerched the sanctity of the National Pastime. Change is bad for the game. Take instant replay. Why would we want to get the calls right? Can someone please tell me? Why would anyone want the rules more equally and correctly enforced? Blown calls are a part of the game, like gambling, segregation, and greenies. We must maintain the Human Element!Bud Selig should be ashamed of himself for instituting replay.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Oct 12, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
These damn kids today and their huge gloves, and with webbing, even!
"Baseball has been good to me since I quit trying to play it." - Whitey Herzog
by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Oct 12, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
of course he would say that
what a pile of crap. he’s as crooked as they come.
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by gdm426 on Oct 12, 2009 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pitch F/X
and a handheld computer, like an iPod touch. That is how balls and strikes will be called in our lifetimes, I hope.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Oct 12, 2009 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
watch the iPod buttons
instead of a strike call the iPod blasts “I feel pretty” from West Side Story over the PA system.
by ubeddie on Oct 12, 2009 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
why don't we just put more umpires on the crew during the playoffs?
they added two…. add two more. or five. they can’t all be on the take. put two guys at first base. put three guys at home plate. put two in hover-cars over the foul line.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2009 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
flying cars you say......
hmmm.
"Everyone in here comes to the yard ready to play every day. I’ll take this group, any day until the day I die." ~
Ryan Fucking Ludwick
by RiverRat on Oct 12, 2009 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why can't
the ump wear a earpiece that tell him to call balls and strikes that a computer decides? So your not taking out the “human element” but correctly calling the pitches.
"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop
by OKCardsfan on Oct 12, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
why can't
the cards start a charity for retired umps in need?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
by cardball on Oct 12, 2009 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
put them down?
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Oct 12, 2009 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
depends
on how they treated us. the decision could be made here via poll.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
by cardball on Oct 12, 2009 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Finally, death panels!
Free Milton
by all4tookie on Oct 12, 2009 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is a good idea. Maybe in training/offseason...
Give them said earpiece as they are calling pitches. Let them see hundreds of pitches called correctly. Also, institute shock collars.
Free Milton
by all4tookie on Oct 12, 2009 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Controlled by VEB'ers keyboards.
"Everyone in here comes to the yard ready to play every day. I’ll take this group, any day until the day I die." ~
Ryan Fucking Ludwick
by RiverRat on Oct 12, 2009 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
shock collars would suffice
they’d get the message.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
by cardball on Oct 12, 2009 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
only if the collars are on their genitals
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by gdm426 on Oct 12, 2009 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's assuming too much
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
by cardball on Oct 12, 2009 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
can we have an umpire fantasy league this postseason?
list the close calls, for any team, that went wrong. extra points if it cost the team the game.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2009 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That would be hilarious
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Oct 12, 2009 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm 6, can we do this?
we’ll be watching the games anyway. that foul ball (off his damn leg!) + “safe” call on the same play cost Colorado the game.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2009 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
With the first overall pick of the 2009 postseason umpire draft,
Cardinals645 take Phil Cuzzi, crew member from NJ.
“Safe pick here, Dan.” “You know, it really is.”
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by Cardinals645 on Oct 12, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's worse this year
In my opinion, the umpiring a few years ago was pretty good. This year, however, it seems to have deteriorated and bad umpiring was, in my opinion, pretty noticeable during the season. Not particularly biased, just the worse it has been since before the umps were all brought under the control of the majors (rather than each league). Bad umpiring didn’t play an important role in the Cards series, but it sure has in the others. Don’t know what has changed.
by CRay on Oct 12, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Umpires
When I saw the list of umpires that the Cards/Dodgers series received, I basically gave up all hope of any good umpiring. I don’t know how that crew was formed, but good God, that’s like asking me to umpire underwater basket weaving or some bull crap I’ve never heard of…gah!
by stlfan on Oct 12, 2009 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's going to happen when
PHIL CUZZI IS AN UMPIRE.
Seriously, how does this guy get onto a postseason umpiring crew?
by sdrone on Oct 12, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think they do it by crew.
Maybe his crew is much better than he is.
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by Cardinals645 on Oct 12, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pitch Track is kind of misleading
The zone it shows is actually the official zone, which is pretty small. Most umpires call at least 3-4 inches off that zone. For example that pitch to Holliday in game is called a strike about 75% of the time in baseball this year.
by vivaelpujols on Oct 12, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he should have swung
at least gone three-quarters around.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
by cardball on Oct 12, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
but then he would have busted his bat & hit into a double play
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by gdm426 on Oct 12, 2009 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the problem with using video for everything is that...
some plays require quick umpiring decisions. If a ball that’s fair is called foul what do they do when they reverse it, especially with runners on base? The same for balls and strikes. If its a full count and the runner at first starts running the catcher needs to know whether he should throw or not. Unless we have loud talking robots it will just never work in the field of play.
I'm like a polygon, I'm edgy.
"OHHHHH!!!!!!! IT TASTES. SO. GOOD!!!!!!!!!!"
-BOOOOOOOOG
by slu on Oct 12, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can still make it more fair than getting the call wrong
Fair or foul down the line past the bag = ground rule double. Football dealt with the same issues (if the play was ruled dead, etc.), and it seemed to work itself out pretty well. The benefit from getting the initial call correct should be more important than the effects of the initial incorrect call.
Free Milton
by all4tookie on Oct 12, 2009 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's great.
Thanks for posting that.
"I’m going to come after you." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Oct 12, 2009 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I loved the Miles impersonation
Mizzou 37 - Illinois 9
by STLRegalia on Oct 12, 2009 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OT.......
but dude can huck a wiffle ball.
"Everyone in here comes to the yard ready to play every day. I’ll take this group, any day until the day I die."
"This whole Cardinals thing.....I don’t know if you guys are a believer, but I’m a believer."
~ Ryan F. Ludwick
by RiverRat on Oct 13, 2009 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
all i can think of
is the scene in Superbad when Michael Cera’s character is playing a COD type game and just laments something like “you can’t win. where’s the fun…fuck.”
I'm like a polygon, I'm edgy.
"OHHHHH!!!!!!! IT TASTES. SO. GOOD!!!!!!!!!!"
-BOOOOOOOOG
by slu on Oct 13, 2009 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't grow a mustache.
Suggested remedies?
by sluggerbird on Oct 12, 2009 10:48 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
faux-hawk or completely shaved head, your choice.
Hope that helps. Also, learn to play the guitar.
Honi soit qui mal y pense.
by p_lampe on Oct 12, 2009 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
I just realized that Yankees swept the Twins and the Angels have swept the Red Sox. So at least we are not alone.
by FlimtotheFlam on Oct 12, 2009 11:15 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yup
If the Phillies win their next game, then the entire first round will have gone one game over the minimum. I’m interested to hear the talking heads’ various arguments about how this development is “bad for baseball” or “good for baseball” or “kinda random for baseball” or whatever.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Oct 12, 2009 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i bet our ownership was crushed by the fact
We only got to play one home game in the playoffs. Huge lose of revenue their. It might have effect on next years payroll cause of it.
by FlimtotheFlam on Oct 12, 2009 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Totally...
and the players got the lion’s share of Game 3 revenues.
MB for LF in 2010!
by guayzimi on Oct 12, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do Smoltz and Lugo get two playoff shares?
one from the Red Sox and one form the Cards?
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Oct 12, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good question...
dunno how that gets worked out. I bet both were negative value with the Sox.
MB for LF in 2010!
by guayzimi on Oct 12, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the players vote on who gets what
normally everyone just gets a flat %, but some teams vote player by player. I just don;t know if it’s in the rules to get a cut from more than one team.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Oct 12, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brian Barden better get some this season
that’s all i’m gonna say
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by gdm426 on Oct 12, 2009 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, ESPN will report that it's a mixed bag
because the Dodgers and Yankees won, but that Red Sox team up in Boston lost.
by stlfan on Oct 12, 2009 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
they have one in Boston?
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2009 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fox/TBS are probably happy with the outcome
NY/LA and Philly/LA series are better revenue generators than Minn/LA and STL/Denver. Offsets the lost revenue from four extra games and only one possible “winner take all” game.
by ubeddie on Oct 12, 2009 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They are thrilled.
And FOX execs are cackling as they count imaginary money in their heads due to the possible ratings of a Dodgers vs. Yankees World Series.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Oct 12, 2009 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fox is thrilled, bitter-sweet for TBS
Had some of the DS gone to 5 games, TBS would be a lot happier.
by southsidepat on Oct 12, 2009 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm rooting for a Angels vs. Dodgers World Series
I HATE seeing the same teams in it every year (Sorry Phillies) and I can’t stomach another Yankees championship. Seeing the Yankees go down to the Angels would be a thing of beauty.
Boy a frosty cold Budweiser would be great about now"…long pause…then an "aahhh". --Mike Shannon
by KYCards on Oct 12, 2009 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think there is a potential matchup I wouldn't like to watch.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Oct 12, 2009 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think there is a potential match I would like to watch.
by FlimtotheFlam on Oct 12, 2009 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
not a baseball fan, eh?
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Oct 12, 2009 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
anything that ends in
Abreu Chris Duncan-ing the Commissioner’s Trophy is fine by me…
Chicago Cubs: The first century was funny...this second one is just sad...
by nomar34 on Oct 12, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You freeway lover
born Dodger blue, now dyed Cardinals red
by totalloser on Oct 12, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Meeting between DeWitt, Mo, and TLR
Straussie discusses Dave Duncan:
Mozeliak said last week that he believed La Russa and pitching coach Dave Duncan would return.
It is uncertain to what extent DeWitt will seek input from Duncan about different pitching philosophies separating the minor-league and major-league sides.
There is also some speculation on the hitting coach:
Mozeliak refused to comment about the remainder of the coaching staff, stoking speculation that he and La Russa were uncertain whether the club would bring back hitting coach Hal McRae for a sixth season.
The Cardinals typically wait until after the meeting to confirm any front office or coaching changes. In 2004, hitting coach Mitchell Page was fired in the days after the Boston Red Sox concluded their World Series sweep of the Cardinals.
All in all, worth a read as TLR channels his inner-Hamlet, “To manage or not to manage…”
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Oct 12, 2009 11:26 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Just sign LaRussa to a Wakefield like contract
1 year deal w/ recurring team option
by FlimtotheFlam on Oct 12, 2009 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I doubt TLR would do that.
I think he genuinely enjoys having DeWitt and Mo talk about how the organization wants Tony La Russa to return to manage the Cardinals. Such a contract would deny him that enjoyment in a couple of years.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Oct 12, 2009 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
McRae hasnt been here for 6 seasons, has he?
i guess he has…
Chicago Cubs: The first century was funny...this second one is just sad...
by nomar34 on Oct 12, 2009 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I REALLY hope we get a new hitting coach
I think the McRae era has to end and it’s time for a new eye to watch our hitters. I wonder who could be waiting in the wings if Tony gives in and let’s Mo replace Hal.
Boy a frosty cold Budweiser would be great about now"…long pause…then an "aahhh". --Mike Shannon
by KYCards on Oct 12, 2009 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My guess
In a tribute to a TV show that, like Cardinals’ season was cut abruptly short, they will announce that “this is our new hitting coach, Mabry.” Then there will be rumors that he and the GM are actually related.
They actually kind of look similar to me:
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Oct 12, 2009 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I always thought Mo looked like Skippy from Family Ties
Boy a frosty cold Budweiser would be great about now"…long pause…then an "aahhh". --Mike Shannon
by KYCards on Oct 12, 2009 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
eerie....
"Baseball has been good to me since I quit trying to play it." - Whitey Herzog
by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Oct 12, 2009 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
don't see the resemblance
Positronic Upgraded Juggernaut Optimized for Logical Sabotage
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 12, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm really starting to believe
that either TLR or the hitting coach gotta go.
We need more OBP/better hitting. Or we need less “grind.”
by sdrone on Oct 12, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
dfa McRae!
Positronic Upgraded Juggernaut Optimized for Logical Sabotage
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 12, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if there is an epitaph to mcrae's career as a hitting coach, i hope it is this quote.
“We’re not putting anything together,” hitting coach Hal McRae said. “We’re not getting runners on base. We’re not bunching any hits. We’re not getting any bases on balls. I can’t think of what the reason is. I know it’s not occurring. I don’t have an explanation for it.”
This came in a Goold article in June when we had some of the worst plate discipline of any team in the majors.
it seems like not drawing any walks has an obvious explanation.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Oct 12, 2009 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sort of like...
"Slider away," Rick Ankiel pleaded. "Slider away and you have him."
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2009 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
who'd he give pitching advice?
or was he talking to himself in the batter’s box?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
by cardball on Oct 12, 2009 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
they were watching the possible clinching game
waiting for the cubs to get beat.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that is precious
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
by cardball on Oct 12, 2009 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still hate dane cook
There may only be one october, but i don’t know if i can watch, i can stomach the thought of another yankees world series, and all the god awful commersials that go with it.
I thought from the beginning that after the twins beat detriot they would be done in 3, Never thought 3 out of the 4 would end that way.
I am honestly thankful that: 1 the blues are going to be respectable; 2 that i am steelers fan and even in crap years the worst they’ll do is 6-10. I really feel sorry for all of you chefs/rams fans, I always liked watching the greatest show on turf.
/after that rant i can watch baseball
// yes i misspelled cheifs on purpose
"Chuck Norris CAN divide by zero"
by elirock83 on Oct 12, 2009 11:36 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i forgot hal mcrae most go
"Chuck Norris CAN divide by zero"
by elirock83 on Oct 12, 2009 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gaaawwwwww!
Goold has an interesting little tidbit on Hawksworth:
At least one of the two open spots in the rotation will be filled by a pitcher coming from the bullpen or Class AAA. That list includes but is not limited to Mitchell Boggs, P.J. Walters, favorite Jaime Garcia and Blake Hawksworth. The last on that list packed up his things Sunday and prepped for a life-changing winter. He’s getting married in November, and he’ll be a returning major-leaguer in February. But at what role? Hawksworth spent all of his time in the minors as a starter, yet found success this season and carved his own role as a reliever. Adam Wainwright likened Hawksworth arrival to his own, coming in as a middle reliever/innings-eater and leaving as a righthander called to the mound in the late innings. Said La Russa on Hawksworth: "He certainly put himself in the club’s plans."
Hawksworth has won TLR’s favor. It’ll be interesting to see what plans Hawk has put himself in—starter or reliever…
The whole post is definitely worth a read, as is most everything by Goold.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Oct 12, 2009 11:43 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hmmm
ill take Garcia and Boggs, please…
Chicago Cubs: The first century was funny...this second one is just sad...
by nomar34 on Oct 12, 2009 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm leaning toward
Garcia and Hawksworth, with Boggs taking his 95-97 out-of-the-bullpen fastball and his wipeout slider to the seventh inning.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Oct 12, 2009 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't see Hawksworth making it as a starter
Look at his minor league career to prove that. He should of been moved to the pen awhile ago. Jaime Garcia is where it is at. As soon as TLR/Dunc see’s the majestic left handed groundball pitchers their hearts will sing.
by FlimtotheFlam on Oct 12, 2009 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess maybe I put too much stock in this season.
He was lights out the single game I saw him pitch for Memphis. I think everyone can agree that Garcia ought to be in the rotation. My bet is that they fill that last opening with a FA, whether it be Smoltz, Penny, Sheets, or whomever.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Oct 12, 2009 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rotation
Carpenter
Wainwright
Lohse
Smoltz
Garcia
w/ Boggs and Hawk in the pen/Carp insurance
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Oct 12, 2009 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i wonder what kind of money Smoltz wants
by FlimtotheFlam on Oct 12, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
probably around what he was paid this season
he wants to be back, so please Dewitt & CO, bring him back
pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels
by gdm426 on Oct 12, 2009 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That would actually be a pretty exciting rotation
both in the good sense and the possible heart attack inducing sense.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Oct 12, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
See sig
John Smoltz for Cardinals' closer 2010!!
by jd is legend on Oct 12, 2009 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think we can count on Smoltz or Garcia to fill an entire rotation spot's worth of innings each.
I’d rather see them each pitch 100-150 IP with a handful of starts for PJ and Boggs to see if either of those two can stick.
Of the free agent starters, there are several intriguing ones that could be cheap.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
by hazel on Oct 12, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah we'd really need a 200 innings eater 5-starter if we go Smoltz + Carp + Non-ChrisPerezYoungPitcher
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Oct 12, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the thought of hawk in the rotation makes me so happy
I saw him pitch in Springfield 4 or so years ago and fell in love with him. He was throwing 95 on his fastball with his change down in the low 70s. I was very impressed and couldn’t wait for him to make the bigs. As it turned out that was one of his best minor league starts and it would take him a little while to put things all together. I’m thrilled either way that he made it to the bigs.
I'm like a polygon, I'm edgy.
"OHHHHH!!!!!!! IT TASTES. SO. GOOD!!!!!!!!!!"
-BOOOOOOOOG
by slu on Oct 12, 2009 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That fastball/changeup combo was making Jake Fox & Co.
look like fools in Des Moines back when April was turning into May…
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Oct 12, 2009 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Danup you forgot
Winter Leagues especially Arizona Fall League.
by FlimtotheFlam on Oct 12, 2009 11:52 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
damn you Goold! damn you!
First the maudlin handegg game:
[fake blockquote] Many of the Cardinals came by Busch Stadium on Sunday to pack up their things and bid farewell to clubbies, coaches and other colleagues. Some, like Brendan Ryan, Matt Holliday and Skip Schumaker, took in parts of the football games — while monitoring the success of their Fantasy Football teams in the clubhouse league. (Ryan, dutifully, wore his Brian Westbrook jersey, the one given to him for drafting the Philadelphia Eagles’ running back way back on the league’s draft day.)
The abrupt ending to their season was felt by many players.
Outfielder Ryan Ludwick said it was the first time he came into the clubhouse when "it felt like we should still be playing." Others had a similar sensation.
"(Next) year seems so far away," Ludwick said. "But it’s right around the corner."
And the bittersweet VEB shout-out:
Viva El Birdos has a fantastic chart on umpire Mike Everitt’s strike zone from Game 3. It confirms what Buster Olney wrote about in his blog at ESPN.com: The Cardinals were 1-for-10 on pitches up in the zone.
But then he hit us where it hurts.
The Cardinals only scored six runs in the three games of the Division Series, and all season long the prophecy of this postseason exit was clanging in our communal conscious: Turns out six is a serious number.
dammmnnn youuuuu competent reporting man.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2009 12:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Goold rocks
defy, cards, defy. hey logic --- you suck.
by effin fisk on Oct 12, 2009 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
f'in Goold
I still love him, but damn that hurts
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Oct 12, 2009 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Strauss really dissed the Cards bad
It’s in yesterday’s post, I think. I posted the tweets and the link to Strauss’ page
Looking forward to Cardinals baseball in 2010!
Feel free to follow me on Twitter: @zoomzoomj88
by zoomzoomj88 on Oct 12, 2009 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was there...
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2009 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
epic epic win for mentioning MVP baseball '05 for gamecube
i wasted hours upon hours of my life playing that game.
good post, dan.
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 12, 2009 12:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cubs File for Bancruptcy: Unclear if Moral or Financial
by thepainguy on Oct 12, 2009 12:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
oh my goodness
that just might be the worst run franchise in all of professional sports.
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 12, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And to boot
they owe Luis Vizcaino half a million.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Oct 12, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Relax. I'ts a formality
The new owner doesn’t want any problems or any part of Tribune debt issues. This was planned as part of the sale.
by sdrone on Oct 12, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
True
but can they write off the rest of Soriano’s contract during the bankruptcy? That would be a sure fire way to make them more competitive.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on Oct 12, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
For those growing a mustache
Good choice on picking November for when to start the stache. Check out this link called Movember. You can grow your stache for charity and have fun with it.
by gdowdy3 on Oct 12, 2009 12:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Does anyone have any info on getting ticket refunds?
Do I have to call someone? The cards site has no info at all.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Oct 12, 2009 12:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think they're automatically refunded.
At least, mine were back in 04.
"I’m going to come after you." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Oct 12, 2009 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you remember how long it took?
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Oct 12, 2009 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A couple of weeks, I think.
Not as quickly as I would’ve liked.
"I’m going to come after you." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Oct 12, 2009 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
they gotta make some interest on it first.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Oct 12, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You should try to sell them on stubhub
by FlimtotheFlam on Oct 12, 2009 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Isn't that fraud?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Oct 12, 2009 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hah!
the damned teams have stubhub windows now. if you can’t beat ’em…
MB for LF in 2010!
by guayzimi on Oct 12, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ah... should read more carefulll...
yes, fraud.
MB for LF in 2010!
by guayzimi on Oct 12, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
://stlouis.cardinals.mlb.com/mlb/tickets/ps_refund_2009.jsp
CARDINALS NON-PLAYED POSTSEASON TICKET RETURN POLICY
Season Tickets – marked “SEASON” on the front of the tickets will be automatically credited to the season account holder of record for unplayed Postseason games. Season tickets SHOULD NOT be returned and will have no cash value.
MLB – Tickets issued through the offices of Major League Baseball – marked “MLB” on the front of the tickets – will receive an automatic credit for any unplayed Postseason games. MLB tickets SHOULD NOT be returned and have no cash value.
Broadcast Partners’ Tickets – Tickets issued through Major League Baseball’s Broadcast Partners – marked “BROADCAST” on the front of the tickets – will receive an automatic credit for any unplayed Postseason games. Broadcast Partners’ Tickets SHOULD NOT be returned and have no cash value.
Club Tickets – Tickets issued through any of the Participating or Non-Participating Major League Clubs – marked “CLUBS” on the front of the tickets – will receive an automatic credit for unplayed games from the Club that issued the ticket. Club tickets SHOULD NOT be returned and have no cash value.
Phone and Web Tickets – marked “PHONE/WEB” on the front of the tickets HAVE NO REFUND VALUE. St. Louis Cardinals phone and web orders will be automatically credited for any unplayed games.
Individual Tickets – marked “INDIVIDUAL” on the front of the tickets on the front of the tickets HAVE NO REFUND VALUE. Orders will be automatically credited for any unplayed games.
Allow 4-6 weeks for processing of credits.
by swmrnbk on Oct 12, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Allow 4-6 weeks for processing of credits.
jerks.
Thanks, though.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Oct 12, 2009 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
4-6 weeks?
what, do they like to look at all the money they could have had before finally giving it back to you?
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 12, 2009 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
DeWallet...
likes to leave it in his high interest savings account for as long as possible.
MB for LF in 2010!
by guayzimi on Oct 12, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Logistically,
I imagine that it takes a while to process the refunds for thousands of ticket purchases. I don’t know that it takes 4-6 weeks, but it wouldn’t surprise me if it were close to that.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Oct 12, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I doubt there's many savings accounts for millions of dollars
Short term bonds I’d imagine. It’s basically just stealing money in a clever way really.
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Oct 12, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OT but baseball related.
It seems that a world record baseball game was played at Hughes field where a charity baseball game was played between the Cards and the Browns for 133 innings straight. It was for Cardinal Glennon Hospital.
That’s pretty damn cool.
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 12, 2009 1:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They were all farmers weren't they?
"Everyone in here comes to the yard ready to play every day. I’ll take this group, any day until the day I die." ~
Ryan Fucking Ludwick
by RiverRat on Oct 12, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nope
School principals and the like….and what exactly is wrong with farmers?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 12, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can somebody link old time baseball
for Forsch? I’m at work and it’s blocked.
"Everyone in here comes to the yard ready to play every day. I’ll take this group, any day until the day I die." ~
Ryan Fucking Ludwick
by RiverRat on Oct 12, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't figure out what link you are talking about that is blocked
by FlimtotheFlam on Oct 12, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm at work, I can't go to hulu
to get the Conan bit.
"Everyone in here comes to the yard ready to play every day. I’ll take this group, any day until the day I die." ~
Ryan Fucking Ludwick
by RiverRat on Oct 12, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I feel stupid now.
Shoulda remembered that one.
/f’ing Forsch
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 12, 2009 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was just afraid that
you may have been left out.
"Everyone in here comes to the yard ready to play every day. I’ll take this group, any day until the day I die." ~
Ryan Fucking Ludwick
by RiverRat on Oct 12, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not left out.
Too stressed out to remember all that good stuff. But thanx for wanting to enlighten me sir.
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 12, 2009 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry RR.
Brain cramp.
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 12, 2009 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They actually had a fanpost up about this over at BCB of all places
by FlimtotheFlam on Oct 12, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They're just jealous.
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 12, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also OT but baseball related:
SMBC Theater. Nice twist on “Who’s on first.”
"I’m going to come after you." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Oct 12, 2009 2:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The mustache as madeline wins you 300 internet points, danup.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Oct 12, 2009 2:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hmmmm.
I don’t know what to make of this:
Staff also hustled reporters from the clubhouse about five minutes before first baseman Albert Pujols arrived.
Approached by several club employees, including general manager John Mozeliak, about addressing reporters for the first time since Saturday’s loss, Pujols declined.
Though the overwhelming majority of Cardinals players made themselves available, Pujols has chosen not to discuss a series in which the Cardinals scored six runs while their MVP candidate was repeatedly walked intentionally by Dodgers manager Joe Torre.
Pujols’ quick exit after Saturday’s loss did not go unnoticed by several teammates.
Perhaps this is an insight into why Pujols enjoys DeRosa being a Cardinal. He’s the ideal spokesman.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Oct 12, 2009 3:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Just Strauss being Strauss...
there was a precursor to this in his tweets yesterday.
"Everyone in here comes to the yard ready to play every day. I’ll take this group, any day until the day I die." ~
Ryan Fucking Ludwick
by RiverRat on Oct 12, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's got to chum the waters,
so the P-D will run a story the next day about how Ankiel and Pujols did not interact with the media. Poor, poor media.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Oct 12, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why can't Joe Strauss cover the Rams?
Then he could tweet and write columns about how Leonard Little won’t answer questions about a homicide that occurred 8 years ago, or about how none of the players will comment about the homicide that has been the Rams season so far.
The world does not revolve around you, Joe.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on Oct 12, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The victim...
rebukes you for this false equivalency.
/channeling the deceased
MB for LF in 2010!
by guayzimi on Oct 12, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm just saying
he always dwells on the negative, so why not cover a team that has a bunch of negativity surrounding it at all times since Mike Martz left? Then there’s more space for Goold to actually write more of his columns that we all enjoy reading.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on Oct 12, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hear you...
and I don’t mean to get sanctimonious, but I really feel sorry for that poor women he killed.
MB for LF in 2010!
by guayzimi on Oct 12, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Back to back 0-16 seasons would guarantee that STL wouldn't ante up the 500M for the new stadium or whatever right?
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Oct 12, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rush Limbaugh buying the team
would probably do that though. I think this whole rebuke by Sharpton and other owners is interesting on that front, because the NFL states that it is 31 separately owned franchises that play each other competitively when defending their limited anti-trust exemption. I find it interesting that the owners get to vote up or down on potential ownership groups if the league is truly made up of “independent franchises”.
FWIW, I think the Rams should move back to LA, but they’ll never get a stadium built there because it’s impossible to get public financing to do it.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on Oct 12, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Forget Limbaugh making a business investment as a minority owner with zero decision making
I don’t want Checketts to divert his attention from the Blues! Plus if he were to pull the same PR/on the field turnaround job he did with the Blues I might have to pay attention to the NFL and my commercial watching time is already way too high. Baseball overlaps the beginning of hockey season and hockey overlaps the beginning of baseball it’s perfect as is. Though building a competitive team with a core of like 8 players aged 19-25 that you can dream on while still having the best farm system in the league isn’t even possible in the NFL.
No politics involved in this discussion*
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Oct 12, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so, what are you trying to say?
you don’t want the checketts/limbaugh group to buy the team for fear of them actually being decent and building a new stadium?
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 12, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I want Checkett to buy the team
I don’t want Limbaugh part of it. Some black players already have said if Rush owned part of the team they would not play in Saint Louis.
by FlimtotheFlam on Oct 12, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thrusty would
bo jackson and deion sanders, move over.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
by cardball on Oct 12, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if checketts buys them, limbaugh will be a part of the equation
and the players need to grow up. it’s absolutely ridiculous that they wouldn’t play for a certain team based on a non-decision making minority owner.
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 12, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think it is ridiculous
He has proved himself to be a Racist on ESPN in the past already
by FlimtotheFlam on Oct 12, 2009 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
but it doesn't matter
what is he going to do, make the black players wear different uniforms?
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 12, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, of course he will not make them wear different uniforms
Just different drinking fountains
by FlimtotheFlam on Oct 12, 2009 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And dress in a different lockerroom.
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 12, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
stop it
pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels
by gdm426 on Oct 12, 2009 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is entirey too political
pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels
by gdm426 on Oct 12, 2009 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
VEB After Hours to the rescue!
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Oct 12, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i keep saying this, and you guys don't listen
st. louis is going to pony up for a new stadium at some point. they did it for the blues and cardinals, and they’re going to do it for the rams.
the rams don’t necessarily need a new stadium built for them to not move back (checketts and limbaugh would keep the team in st. louis regardless), but at some point they are going to build a new stadium for the team, and they city will pony up.
and the rams aren’t going 0-16 in back to back seasons. they are going to probably win this sunday in fact.
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 12, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know they're going to
That’s why I’m rooting for them to suck as badly as humanly possible. Aside from my general apathy towards the National Commercial League…with Football!®, building stadiums for billionaires to make more money is dumb. I was against it for the Cardinals too.
I doubt they’re the favorites this weekend. They’ve scored 34 points this year. [Bill Simmons reference] Incognito is leading the penalty yards vs. Rams points battle right? [/BS reference]
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Oct 12, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes, incognito is winning that battle
and i doubt they’re favorites this weekend, but if you watched the game yesterday they played MUCH better. the score doesn’t show it, but the rams moved the ball with ease while turning it over three times inside the ten yard line.
and i agree that building new stadiums is dumb, but it’s also dumb to think that st. louis won’t do for the rams what they’ve already done for the blues and cardinals.
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 12, 2009 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thus the subject line of my last post
And thus I want them to go 0-16 the next two seasons because then that wouldn’t happen.
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Oct 12, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
fair enough
but be warned, they are getting much better. i would argue they have an outside shot at a winning record next year.
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 12, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Personally, I say good for Ankiel.
I wouldn’t wanna talk to the bastards more than I had to.
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 12, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gahhhhh!
I’m sooooooooooooooo depressed…
:=8(
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
by The MooCow on Oct 12, 2009 3:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yikes Yadi!
According to lawsuit filed in New York, Molina — who is widely considered to be the best defensive catcher in baseball — is being sued by Steiner Sports Marketing for allegedly taking $90,660 to do autograph events … then never showing up to do them.
Steiner is seeking damages in excess of $175,000.
Free Milton
by all4tookie on Oct 12, 2009 3:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Also, same website:
Smoltz hoping to remain in St. Louis:
“This would be a great fit. This would be a scenario that wouldn’t take too many minutes to make a decision.”
Free Milton
by all4tookie on Oct 12, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Closer!
John Smoltz for Cardinals' closer 2010!!
by jd is legend on Oct 12, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nothing else going on
get that done today.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
by cardball on Oct 12, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's heartening.
Hopefully it wouldn’t take much more than $6MM…
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Oct 12, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't get the feeling it would even cost that
Smoltz can’t possibly care much about money anymore, just respect. Offer him something just respectable and guarantee him a rotation spot and he’s back IMO. The Braves wouldn’t guarantee either and tried something like 1.2M.
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Oct 12, 2009 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nevermind
The Braves’ offer had a $2.5 million guarantee, rising to $5 million if he was on the major league roster 60 days. There were additional incentives that could have pushed the total as high as $12 million, but Smoltz would have had to total at least 200 innings and pitch very well to maximize the contract.
I’d think 5M guaranteed and 5M in incentives would get it done and that’d be fair enough for both sides after his 2009.
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Oct 12, 2009 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
I remember him taking offense at the Braves’ offer last Hot Stove, so I moved up to $6MM guaranteed. But, I didn’t recall the specifics. I might even do $6MM base with $4MM in incentives. On a one-year deal, I would feel great about that contract.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Oct 12, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He could sign for less this winter
From Goold:
“The veteran pitcher will reach free agency in a few weeks, and he called himself this afternoon "not really high-priority free agent."
Could mean he’s adjusted how much he values his services for a playoff caliber team.
"Nothing in life is certain but death, taxes, and Albert Pujols batting .300/30/100."
by imfromstl on Oct 12, 2009 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully...
If we can save, say, $2MM on him, with the Nice Pie discount, we can roll that into a power arm for the ’pen or left field…
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Oct 12, 2009 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he's looking for playing in games that matter more than anything
Not looking for a payout. Although unless we’re certain what role he’ll play it may not work. You don’t want too much money tied up in setup guys in the event Franklin blows up next year.
"Nothing in life is certain but death, taxes, and Albert Pujols batting .300/30/100."
by imfromstl on Oct 12, 2009 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the man stew better work for *something*
it’s gonna screw us over, I just feel it.
(don’t pick up the soap!)
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2009 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
pettite tied him last night
for postseason wins. maddux made sure to eclipse clemens, thankfully, in 300 cllub.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
by cardball on Oct 12, 2009 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is why I read PD comments. Someone count the things wrong in this beaut:
The Cardinals finished first in NLC because the Cubs and Brewers collapsed and not so much of how they played. Pujols great first half and several mid season deals also helped. Don’t look for Cubs and Brewers to repeat 2009 anytime soon. Therefore the Cradinals will have to improve starting pitching, relief pitching, and a productive hitter. I would like for STL to get rid of some of their marginal players: Dennis Reyes, and John Smoltz, and possibly Thurston. A good off season trade would be Joel Pinerio, Thurston, and Reyes to Cincinnati for Aaron Haarang and Brandon Phillips.
A good starting lineup for next season would be; Holiday, Ramus, DeRose in outfield; Glaus, Ryan, Phillips, Pujols infield; Molina and Larue catching.
Pitching rotation; Carpenter, Wainwright, Aaron Haarang, Wellemeyer. Haarang can pitch 200 inning a season.
— c. Jackson
2:32 pm October 12th, 2009
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Oct 12, 2009 3:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Let's go Cradinals!!!!
Free Milton
by all4tookie on Oct 12, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Life imitating art
A good off season trade would be Joel Pinerio, Thurston, and Reyes to Cincinnati for Aaron Haarang and Brandon Phillips.
From Seinfeld episode 122, “The Caddy”:
George: I think I got it. How ’bout this? How ’bout this? We trade Jim Leyritz and Bernie Williams, for Barry Bonds, huh? Whadda ya think? That way you have Griffey and Bonds, in the same outfield! Now you got a team! Ha ha ha.
"But as the leadoff guy that inning, my job is to get on base and let guys drive me in." - Albert Pujols 8/20/09, base-clogger.
by lightbulb on Oct 12, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aaron Haaraaaaaang
At least he spelled Ramus’ name right
John Smoltz for Cardinals' closer 2010!!
by jd is legend on Oct 12, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ARGHHH!!!
/This is exactly why I don’t read those comments.
PS — 72.
Offseason Rumors : Me :: Unicorn Blood : Voldemort
by Cardinals645 on Oct 12, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Luddy
Does that mean Ludwick comes off the bench? I also like the confidence in the 4-man pitching rotation. Maybe this guy can be our new manager if TLR steps down.
Red Means Go.
by bigwilley18 on Oct 12, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, you misread that.
See, after Wellemeyer he writes,
Haarang can pitch 200 inning a season.which, I think, we’re supposed to take to mean that Harang is the 3rd and 5th starters.
Offseason Rumors : Me :: Unicorn Blood : Voldemort
by Cardinals645 on Oct 12, 2009 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Intriguing
Maybe he can pitch half his starts lefty and half righty to guarantee he’s fresh and ready to hold down both the middle and anchor of the rotation. Sign that man NOW.
Red Means Go.
by bigwilley18 on Oct 12, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i love that smoltz is dead wood, but welly gets to start again.
also, while smoltz and reyes are surely underperforming, he thinks only “maybe” thurston should be got rid of.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Oct 12, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's funny, but terrifying. I just don't see how people reach these conclusions.
And ty, it was time for a new sig, and I think this is perfect for the offseason.
Offseason Rumors : Me :: Unicorn Blood : Voldemort
by Cardinals645 on Oct 12, 2009 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
love your sig, too.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Oct 12, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I rec'd that comment for the sig alone
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Oct 12, 2009 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oooo...
me too.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Oct 14, 2009 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow!
I want some of whatever he’s taking. Smoltz is marginal? Huh, who’d a guessed it. And we’d have to resign Pinata in order to trade him…that’s frigging brilliant! And Luddy’s riding the pine. Where was this guy during the season? TLR hire this man! We’d have never lost a game with that much genus working for us.
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 12, 2009 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm somewhat frightened
that commenter has a name very similar to mine.
Really, the only bad part of bacon is that it makes you thirsty . . . for more bacon
by jacksonian on Oct 12, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes,
but do you think he’d know who “Old Hickory” was if you asked him?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Oct 12, 2009 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
unlikely
that comforts me.
Really, the only bad part of bacon is that it makes you thirsty . . . for more bacon
by jacksonian on Oct 12, 2009 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
holy fucking shit
®
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by gdm426 on Oct 12, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
# 1....
…I need to take a #2…
;=8)
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
by The MooCow on Oct 12, 2009 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
amazing
can’t count that high for fallacies, but would the cards get sued for trading piniero when they don’t own him?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
by cardball on Oct 12, 2009 3:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
so, I'll have to shave my current mustache before november
so I can begin another one
Positronic Upgraded Juggernaut Optimized for Logical Sabotage
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 12, 2009 4:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I am so sad that my playoff moustache nver had a chance at a real life
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Oct 12, 2009 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know, wtf!!?
Positronic Upgraded Juggernaut Optimized for Logical Sabotage
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 12, 2009 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm in the same boat.
I tried to shave mine off to stop the bleeding but, no.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Gibson
by davethebutcher on Oct 13, 2009 1:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so who is this person?
http://twitter.com/VivaElBirdos
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2009 4:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't know,
but I think we should sue him/her
/assuming that it’s not someone here.
"Everyone in here comes to the yard ready to play every day. I’ll take this group, any day until the day I die." ~
Ryan Fucking Ludwick
by RiverRat on Oct 12, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sue for $40 million dollars
and split it up between me, hardcore, gdm, red baron, evilfrog, spants, zoom zoom, joker, fourstick, dan, lboros, chuckb, azruavatar, mojowo, alxfritz, you, yadi2second, vep, cards fan in chitown, bgh, and valatan.
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 12, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and then everyone who's not on that list will sue us
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2009 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
:(
John Smoltz for Cardinals' closer 2010!!
by jd is legend on Oct 12, 2009 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Apparently
you can get in the group to sue the rest of us if we win.
"Everyone in here comes to the yard ready to play every day. I’ll take this group, any day until the day I die." ~
Ryan Fucking Ludwick
by RiverRat on Oct 12, 2009 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If it's $40 million
I’ll gladly take $250K and leave $39.75 million for the rest of you
John Smoltz for Cardinals' closer 2010!!
by jd is legend on Oct 12, 2009 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think if VEB won $40 mill
We’d have to pay Felonius to cook us up a pegacorn.
And buy the bar.
Pegacorn, then bar.
"Everyone in here comes to the yard ready to play every day. I’ll take this group, any day until the day I die." ~
Ryan Fucking Ludwick
by RiverRat on Oct 12, 2009 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
It’d be a 40M bar. The Pegacorn would simply be a prominent feature of the bar.
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Oct 12, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That pegacorn would
be drunk within an hour……
"Everyone in here comes to the yard ready to play every day. I’ll take this group, any day until the day I die." ~
Ryan Fucking Ludwick
by RiverRat on Oct 12, 2009 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bachelor Party
all over again? Don’t leave the drugs where the pegacorn can get to them…
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on Oct 12, 2009 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that duck just couldn't hold his liquor.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Oct 12, 2009 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
By the way
Is there any reason as to why some super rich Cardinals fan hasn’t opened up some megabar in Lake DeWitt? Shit, DeWitt himself. I don’t get it. How would this not make money.
Just do Cardinals themed drink specials 6 months out of the year, don’t price yourself out of range, and tons of people would go there before and after games without question. Hell, close it in the off-season who even cares, you’d absolutely bank during baseball season.
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Oct 12, 2009 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
THAT'S WHAT MATTY & I ARE TRYING TO DO!
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by gdm426 on Oct 12, 2009 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't want it in the Lake though
what is a good location for this bar? Financing continuing ( no thanks to all you cheap bastages).
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Oct 12, 2009 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We're working on a lawsuit
what more do you want?
"Everyone in here comes to the yard ready to play every day. I’ll take this group, any day until the day I die." ~
Ryan Fucking Ludwick
by RiverRat on Oct 12, 2009 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
$10,000 donations directly into our paypal accounts
Frtiz said the tower grove area is a good spot to open up a joint
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by gdm426 on Oct 12, 2009 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I say you go over next to Pop's or whatever it's called now.
Nothing says class like Sauget.
"Everyone in here comes to the yard ready to play every day. I’ll take this group, any day until the day I die." ~
Ryan Fucking Ludwick
by RiverRat on Oct 12, 2009 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i refuse to set up shop on the east side
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by gdm426 on Oct 12, 2009 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
tower grove south, to be specific.
rents not too bad, good amount of bar traffic.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Oct 12, 2009 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll take the $39.75 million
:)
Actually, I’d be good with $500K
Looking forward to Cardinals baseball in 2010!
Feel free to follow me on Twitter: @zoomzoomj88
by zoomzoomj88 on Oct 12, 2009 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hell, i'd be good with 10K
pay for the rest of school.
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 12, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh, how could i miss you
i would have remembered if your name was still mr. redbird.
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 12, 2009 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
not to mention
you’re leaving out a good chunk of the female contingent
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2009 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i can only think of cardsgirl and THT in CO right now
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 12, 2009 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
somewhere, peach_concrete and clemson_girl
have a collective sad.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Oct 12, 2009 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh damn
the worst part is PC gives me motivational pep talks and i know clemson girl in real life.
whoops…
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 12, 2009 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm going to pretend that 'you' was for me, specifically as opposed to riverrat.
Offseason Rumors : Me :: Unicorn Blood : Voldemort
by Cardinals645 on Oct 12, 2009 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
/ When do I earn my wings, dammit?
Offseason Rumors : Me :: Unicorn Blood : Voldemort
by Cardinals645 on Oct 12, 2009 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bacon Wings?
"Everyone in here comes to the yard ready to play every day. I’ll take this group, any day until the day I die." ~
Ryan Fucking Ludwick
by RiverRat on Oct 12, 2009 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd prefer wings that I won't try to devour.
It’s like Icarus, with a bizarre twist…
Offseason Rumors : Me :: Unicorn Blood : Voldemort
by Cardinals645 on Oct 12, 2009 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
pssst
they grow back.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2009 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then Bacon Wings are my wings of choice!
Obviously.
Offseason Rumors : Me :: Unicorn Blood : Voldemort
by Cardinals645 on Oct 12, 2009 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
mango habenero for me
wait, wrong wings…sorry
Mizzou 37 - Illinois 9
by STLRegalia on Oct 12, 2009 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK, enough talk.
Time to go get some bacon.
Offseason Rumors : Me :: Unicorn Blood : Voldemort
by Cardinals645 on Oct 12, 2009 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
this ain't a closed club
VEB doesn’t have a bouncer.
(it does have a robot.)
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2009 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
initial adm
Baseball & Music enthusiast
red baron possibly?
by ubeddie on Oct 12, 2009 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
close
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Oct 12, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you know who it is?
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Oct 12, 2009 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
nope.
just that those aren’t rb’s intials.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Oct 12, 2009 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well the a was right at least.
"Everyone in here comes to the yard ready to play every day. I’ll take this group, any day until the day I die." ~
Ryan Fucking Ludwick
by RiverRat on Oct 12, 2009 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's probably archer daniels midland
big vodka loves the Cards.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Oct 12, 2009 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking about suggesting
VEB getting a Twitter page. After that… I dunno. Let’s sue that guy.
Looking forward to Cardinals baseball in 2010!
Feel free to follow me on Twitter: @zoomzoomj88
by zoomzoomj88 on Oct 12, 2009 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i didn't do it
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by gdm426 on Oct 12, 2009 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess I can finish that 1968 MVP Baseball franchise now :(
by Hardcore Legend on Oct 12, 2009 4:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What game is that on?
"Nothing in life is certain but death, taxes, and Albert Pujols batting .300/30/100."
by imfromstl on Oct 12, 2009 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The EA Sports MVP?
"Nothing in life is certain but death, taxes, and Albert Pujols batting .300/30/100."
by imfromstl on Oct 12, 2009 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thanks for the link shoutout, dan
now I have to update the Boog sampler…
Happier times, when it was cool to victory-pummel your teammate: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cg9wclEJlng
quality is iffy though the shots are good
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2009 4:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I would like to discuss what may the most interesting statement about human nature
that i have observed on these boards since the beginning of the season.
EVONY ads.
They began with pictures of knights and castles, suggesting the game had something to do with medieval combat. Then there were busty wenches in period costumes that called me “my lord.” clearly, finding this a successful theory, they moved on to ads that featured busty women not in period costume. in the final iteration they appeared to just be advertising porn.
I haven’t ever clicked on any of their ads, in part because i don’t need another time-waster and in part because i am SURE that bulgarian identity thieves would promptly steal what little remains in my account and i’d have a hell of a time explaining that to my wife.
anyway, to me this was an interesting example of the “lord of flies” lowest common denominator theory of the internet.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Oct 12, 2009 4:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Worst Contract EVER: Too soon?
Alex Rodriguez value 08/paycheck — $27.1m/$28m
value 09/paycheck — $20.6m/$32m
Remaining payouts:
10:$32M, 11:$31M, 12:$29M, 13:$28M, 14:$25M, 15:$21M, 16:$20M, 17:$20M
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Oct 12, 2009 5:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not even close
Vernon Wells and Soriano are much, much worse contracts right now.
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Oct 12, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No.
I think his value will surpass $30MM hitting in that stadium next season. I think he’ll be healthier moving forward, but I could be way off-base there.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Oct 12, 2009 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Technically "hitting in that stadium" should be separate from his value
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Oct 12, 2009 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So do I,
but I don’t think WAR adjusts for that, does it?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Oct 12, 2009 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In terms of production per dollar
that’s not even the worst contract in the last 10 years for the Yankees:
Jaret Wright
Carl Pavano
Jason Giambi
Those were all worse than A-Rod’s deal, and you have to remember that he missed the first month and a half of the season with his hip injury. You normalize his production over that first six weeks with the rest of the year and he’s probably going to be pretty close to being worth his contract — hell, that bomb to tie up Game 2 was probably worth $10M to the Yankees because it was in the postseason.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on Oct 12, 2009 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess i'm just reacting to the notion that you can be worth $20m and STILL
underplay the value of your contract by $12M.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Oct 12, 2009 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he's probably added about 10M to his value this year in the postseason already
Two gigantic homers earn them at least 2 more home games.
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Oct 12, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've said all along I thought that contract was pretty horrible
for both him and the Yankee team, but when your assessed cost per win has a value greater than 1 WAR costs on the free agent market, things are going to get a little skewed for your team.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on Oct 12, 2009 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Still depressed about the Dodgers' sweep?
Looking for a laugh? Want to have a hearty laugh at the expense of a resident of my hometown who took Ghostbusters a little too seriously?
http://huntsville.craigslist.org/lab/1405604841.html
John Smoltz for Cardinals' closer 2010!!
by jd is legend on Oct 12, 2009 5:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Huntsville...isn't Space Camp there?????!!
Free Milton
by all4tookie on Oct 12, 2009 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wahoooo!!!!!!!!111111!!!!one
Yes, yes it is.
John Smoltz for Cardinals' closer 2010!!
by jd is legend on Oct 12, 2009 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
still in shock the mustache wasn't good luck --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------->
Mizzou 37 - Illinois 9
by STLRegalia on Oct 12, 2009 5:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i'm probably way, way late to this party
but IIRC, your signature was the result of a lost bet. and i LOVE it.
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 12, 2009 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lost bet
lost season
Mizzou 37 - Illinois 9
by STLRegalia on Oct 12, 2009 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If it makes you feel better
Our season is about to go down the crapper too.
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Oct 12, 2009 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
NOT TRUE
the tigers are going 1-1 the next two weeks.
by stlcardinalsfang on Oct 12, 2009 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
nothing can make me feel better
Juice seems to have taken 2 steps backwards and the team as a whole is majorly under performing. I don’t know if it’s the new O-coordinator or what. seems like they are no longer throwing it down the field. When you have a first round NFL WR, a 6’5" WR, and another 6’ + receiver with speed, you should at least score a couple TD’s a game. I could live with an INT or two game as long as it meant 2 or 4 TD’s a game. Excite me at least.
(sorry, I’ll stop crying in my orange kool aid now)
Mizzou 37 - Illinois 9
by STLRegalia on Oct 12, 2009 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ron zook coaching staff = fail
he’s getting players, his staff just isn’t coaching/using them to the best of their ability.
Mizzou 37 - Illinois 9
by STLRegalia on Oct 12, 2009 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The juice got too loose.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Oct 12, 2009 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ladies and gentlemen
Angel Hernandez at first base!!!
holy GOB.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2009 6:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm still at work...
new nomination for the umpire game, eh?
"Everyone in here comes to the yard ready to play every day. I’ll take this group, any day until the day I die." ~
Ryan Fucking Ludwick
by RiverRat on Oct 12, 2009 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"safe" at first.
successful DP, Helton stayed on the bag. runner called safe as houses.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2009 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just got home to watch the game
Has he made the game about himself, yet?
Over/under on how long it DOES take for him to become the center of attention.
"Nothing in life is certain but death, taxes, and Albert Pujols batting .300/30/100."
by imfromstl on Oct 12, 2009 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yet?
It’s always about Angel.
Always.
"Everyone in here comes to the yard ready to play every day. I’ll take this group, any day until the day I die." ~
Ryan Fucking Ludwick
by RiverRat on Oct 12, 2009 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
is that why they wouldn't let him stay on the show with buffy?
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Oct 12, 2009 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well played
Whoever was saying Phil Cuzzi doesn’t belong on an ALDS crew…bump for Angel Hernandez being in the NLDS.
"Nothing in life is certain but death, taxes, and Albert Pujols batting .300/30/100."
by imfromstl on Oct 12, 2009 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
according to PTI
no one will sign smoltzie, and only the cards would consider it.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
by cardball on Oct 12, 2009 6:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
lol while entertaining
they aren’t who i go for scoops or inside info
by FunkeeC on Oct 12, 2009 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i was laughing
one guy is a cub fan and the other a football fan. just thought it was some kind of dig, really.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
by cardball on Oct 12, 2009 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
PTI is one of the reasons I started watching WWL on a regular basis.
But they’re constantly bringing in replacement hosts and they know nothing about baseball. It would be nice to have no competition for one of the better pitching FAs, however.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
by hazel on Oct 12, 2009 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i can't see him not resigning with us
unless we somehow insult him or, even dumber, don’t offer
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
by cardball on Oct 12, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He didn't resign with the team that he played almost his entire HOF career for,
played through a hellish array of injuries for, etc. over a $2M guaranteed money discrepancy.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
by hazel on Oct 12, 2009 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
true
thought he might have felt dissed, though, considering chipper was made a brave for life.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
by cardball on Oct 12, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wasn't that against the background of tommy glavine leaving under
a cloud and maddux having left some time earlier? or is my chronology all screwed up?
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Oct 12, 2009 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
glavine left once before
for the mets. maddux came to the braves, but smoltz came up with the braves. to me the smoltz ordeal was akin to letting gibby walk, had that ever happened.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
by cardball on Oct 12, 2009 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well that's odd, pit was one of the big reason why i stopped watching the WWL
pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels
by gdm426 on Oct 12, 2009 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
to be honest
LeBetard is the only guy who knows baseball at all who shows up IMO. As you say Kornheiser is a football guy and Wilbon is a reporter from the same thread as Strauss
by FunkeeC on Oct 12, 2009 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and now! Fowler just slid into J Roll's glove.
foot-glove-base. the glove with the ball. correct call, it looks like, but now the crowd wants blood
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2009 6:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
can they throw snowballs
like football fans?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
by cardball on Oct 12, 2009 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought it was batteries at Santa
Free Milton
by all4tookie on Oct 12, 2009 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it was snowballs at santa, and batteries at players.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Oct 12, 2009 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what's the range of a taser?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
by cardball on Oct 12, 2009 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
depends on the make -- off the top of my head, about 20 feet.
i think it’s most effective under 10 feet.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Oct 12, 2009 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Jim Tracy is close to arguing for the cycle."
first, second, and now third.
IT SUCKS BECAUSE IT’S TRUE
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2009 6:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
though that's the right call at 3rd
late tag
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2009 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Angel's bad call to start the game
just screws the rest of the crew and the rest of the calls.
don’t these guys throw down over bad calls? for real.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2009 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hard to tell
I don’t have HD so it’s even harder for me. If I had to make a call, I’d say he’s out, but it was close.
John Smoltz for Cardinals' closer 2010!!
by jd is legend on Oct 12, 2009 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
now the crowd cheers Werth fouling a 96 mph off his foot
this crowd is ready for blood. it’s gonna get Philly-style in the mountains.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2009 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only until the next Broncos game
"Nothing in life is certain but death, taxes, and Albert Pujols batting .300/30/100."
by imfromstl on Oct 12, 2009 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Roster matrix coming on VEB?
Did I miss an announcement of when one might be posted? Or am I just getting way too anxious?
"Nothing in life is certain but death, taxes, and Albert Pujols batting .300/30/100."
by imfromstl on Oct 12, 2009 7:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Raul Ibanez = next player to get busted for HGH
John Smoltz for Cardinals' closer 2010!!
by jd is legend on Oct 12, 2009 7:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
he was told it was botox.
but seriously, not arguing, but why do you think that?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
by cardball on Oct 12, 2009 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dunno
His hot start plus I’ve always disliked him for no reason
John Smoltz for Cardinals' closer 2010!!
by jd is legend on Oct 12, 2009 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
fair enough
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
by cardball on Oct 12, 2009 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
To me someone like Raul is the perfect "example"
of why someone would use. He has talent but the first 6 or so years he just couldn’t get in or stay in the lineup. He played every outfield position, 1st base and DH but just seemed to need that extra push. I remember something about him even being a catcher in the minors. Now at close to 40 (around there), he’s an all-star.
I don’t know if he used or really care. I’m just saying I could understand why someone with his career path would be tempted.
by Tom_Lawless_Bat_Flip on Oct 12, 2009 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
there was a decent defense this summer
on why his burst was explainable, sans steroids.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Oct 12, 2009 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
HGH doesn't do anything.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
by hazel on Oct 12, 2009 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
which is why people use it?
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Oct 12, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought it was for guys who
were ashamed of having a large penis and wanted to shrink it.
by Tom_Lawless_Bat_Flip on Oct 12, 2009 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Made Bronson Arroyo feel like a monster.
"I’m going to come after you." - Chris Carpenter
by spants on Oct 12, 2009 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is HGH to blame for his corn rows?
I hope no self respecting honky would intentionally do that.
by Tom_Lawless_Bat_Flip on Oct 12, 2009 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So does Pine Tar.
"Everyone in here comes to the yard ready to play every day. I’ll take this group, any day until the day I die." ~
Ryan Fucking Ludwick
by RiverRat on Oct 12, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought he said that about andro.
Perhaps I was mistaken.
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
"POOL TEMPERATURES FUCK YEAH"--tgreenfield, The September 10th-11th VEB Off-Topic Explosion
by andi_k on Oct 13, 2009 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hmm...
Perhaps you’re correct. I’m too lazy to look it up b/c who cares?
by spants on Oct 14, 2009 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just thought the quotes he gave were funny,
as in “I take so many supplements, I don’t even know which ones are legal and I don’t care” (paraphrasing)
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
"POOL TEMPERATURES FUCK YEAH"--tgreenfield, The September 10th-11th VEB Off-Topic Explosion
by andi_k on Oct 14, 2009 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Supposedly helps to heal/grow tendons/ligaments
Performance wise hasn’t been proven to do jack.
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Oct 12, 2009 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
which would lead to extended careers
and, thus, performance, no?
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Oct 12, 2009 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Claims only.
There is no evidence that HGH has any such effect.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
by hazel on Oct 12, 2009 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
don't legit docs
prescribe it post-op, to speed and aid recovery? i mean to normal people.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
by cardball on Oct 12, 2009 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
legit docs do a lot of stuff that doesn't do anything (patients with good insurance demand it, and docs get paid more to do it).
HGH’s only proven clinical use is for people with GH deficiency.
Studies have shown that it increases muscle size but not strength, and some other weird things (people who have too much GH from diseases have lowered endurance and usually just get cancer or random supersized or shrunken organs, and people treated with GH deficiency get cancer at slightly higher rates), but nothing that really indicates it is athletically useful.
It’s also been speculated by lots of woo-artists that GH is a magical anti-aging serum. This was also a gigantic FAIL, but rich idiots have paid out a lot of money for GH anti-aging junk.
The main problem is that despite the fact that HGH has been used and studied since the 1970s, its action is still not very well understood (it has effects all over the body). It’s absolutely nothing like steroids or precursors or creatine, which all work great, in very specific ways (so the effects are isolated), and are pretty well understood.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
by hazel on Oct 12, 2009 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
by cardball on Oct 12, 2009 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
High five!
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
by hazel on Oct 12, 2009 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
minor league free agents:
royce ring, brian barden from the cards.
other big names: kris benson, wilson betemit. . .
see anything you like?
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Oct 12, 2009 7:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Kris Benson's wife?
"Everyone in here comes to the yard ready to play every day. I’ll take this group, any day until the day I die." ~
Ryan Fucking Ludwick
by RiverRat on Oct 12, 2009 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ba dum ching
remember when she was on sportscenter?
Looking forward to Cardinals baseball in 2010!
Feel free to follow me on Twitter: @zoomzoomj88
by zoomzoomj88 on Oct 12, 2009 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
don't know what that means
i assume she’s hot? but is she a free agent?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
by cardball on Oct 12, 2009 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
meh. i think she's the kind that might look hot after a few drinks and late at night.
otherwise, i think she leans more towards trashy.
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Oct 12, 2009 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There's nothing wrong
with the occasional walk on the trashy side.
"Everyone in here comes to the yard ready to play every day. I’ll take this group, any day until the day I die." ~
Ryan Fucking Ludwick
by RiverRat on Oct 12, 2009 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like trashy women
and what you just said puts down trashy women. Ugh. I might actually have to take a sabbatical from baseball if the Cards sign Kris Benson (well because of my hatred of Anna Benson and the fact that Kris has sucked for, what, 10 years running? What has he had in his career, one season slightly above league average? For fuck’s sake, I think I would rather have Baron Von Kippingsworth, Part 2 than Kris Benson.
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Oct 12, 2009 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if not for trashy women, gdm wouldn't get
oh who is he kidding? gdm doesn’t get dates
pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels
by gdm426 on Oct 12, 2009 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you have to leave the basement for that
Positronic Upgraded Juggernaut Optimized for Logical Sabotage
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 12, 2009 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
His AAA numbers this year:
1.03 ERA, 43.2 IP, 8.45 K/9 2.68 BB/9, K/BB 3.15, 2.65 FIP
Selected MLB statistics:
37.5 LD%
.455 BABIP
50% HR/FB!?
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
by hazel on Oct 12, 2009 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Career minor league numbers
198.2 IP, 218 K, 32 UIBB, 14.6% LDs, 7 HRs, 2.2 FIP.
His career MLE even is for a 3.25 FIP.
by vivaelpujols on Oct 12, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the phils have really taught their hitters how to sell it
they take off for any close pitch
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2009 7:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Say it ain't so
Acta in the running for the Astros job. Please Mr. Wade, hire Ned Yost.
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Oct 12, 2009 7:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Me neither
Just because he’s open to sabermetrics doesn’t make him an incredible manager
John Smoltz for Cardinals' closer 2010!!
by jd is legend on Oct 12, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He could still be good- it was the Nationals,
and anyway, the Sabermetrics that he dabbles in don’t really give the manager credit for much.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
by hazel on Oct 12, 2009 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
MLBTR says Phil Garner is in the running as well.
It’s like changing your management except you don’t even have to really change anyone…
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
by hazel on Oct 12, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
or your underwear
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BAHAHAHAHAHA
John Smoltz for Cardinals' closer 2010!!
by jd is legend on Oct 12, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I give you guys a D-
No one with the “You know, it really is.”
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
by hazel on Oct 12, 2009 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
they're trying to kill memes, now.
with death panels, probably.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2009 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And thanks DanUp
for talking me out of taking the rest of the postseason off. I really, really wanted to, but I am glad you snapped me out of that line of thinking.
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Oct 12, 2009 7:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Helton scores
another round of Tulo chants are justified
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2009 8:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
then Tulo screws up his baserunning.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2009 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ibañez has a white hanky moment...
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2009 8:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I guess he's the worst player ever.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
by hazel on Oct 12, 2009 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yep
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2009 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Todos somos Americanos!
Viva el Hispanic heritage month! Viva el Marc Anthony!
/MNF
John Smoltz for Cardinals' closer 2010!!
by jd is legend on Oct 12, 2009 8:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Donde esta la casa de Pepe?
by Tom_Lawless_Bat_Flip on Oct 12, 2009 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yo quiero taco bell
pretzels pretzels pretzels pretzels
by gdm426 on Oct 12, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Es en Mexico? Puerto Rico?
John Smoltz for Cardinals' closer 2010!!
by jd is legend on Oct 12, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No me gusta bailar! NO ME GUSTA BAILAR!!!
by Tom_Lawless_Bat_Flip on Oct 12, 2009 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Que terrible! Todos gusta bailar!
John Smoltz for Cardinals' closer 2010!!
by jd is legend on Oct 12, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was told there would be no Spanish.
by notmorganfreeman on Oct 12, 2009 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But it's Hispanic heritage month!
John Smoltz for Cardinals' closer 2010!!
by jd is legend on Oct 12, 2009 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't habla.
"Nothing in life is certain but death, taxes, and Albert Pujols batting .300/30/100."
by imfromstl on Oct 12, 2009 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And...Hank Jr. just sang part of the theme in Spanish
I wonder if he was ordered to do that or if the alcohol induced him to utter gibberish, and by some cosmic miracle it came out to be Spanish?
John Smoltz for Cardinals' closer 2010!!
by jd is legend on Oct 12, 2009 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's Senor Hank Jr to you.
by Tom_Lawless_Bat_Flip on Oct 12, 2009 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lo siento!
John Smoltz for Cardinals' closer 2010!!
by jd is legend on Oct 12, 2009 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
CORNBALLER!
Si, cornballer!
I'm like a polygon, I'm edgy.
"OHHHHH!!!!!!! IT TASTES. SO. GOOD!!!!!!!!!!"
-BOOOOOOOOG
by slu on Oct 12, 2009 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Betancourt escapes jam; Denver plays Song 2
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2009 8:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dexter Fowler leaped over Chase Utley.
safe!!
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2009 8:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I believe that was Particle Man
as Madson comes in
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2009 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he didn't really jump over him, the 1stbase camera showed he jumped around him
although if they come back & win this, we’ll be seeing that for the rest of our lives
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by gdm426 on Oct 12, 2009 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and see, this is how we should've done it
a defensive replacement scoops it up from LF
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2009 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
holliday is considered a top LF defensively
was that a reputation or stat-based. looked on the low range of average to me, but maybe just because that reputation preceded him to STL.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
by cardball on Oct 12, 2009 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think the line was that he looked clumsy out there but generally got the job done
I'm like a polygon, I'm edgy.
"OHHHHH!!!!!!! IT TASTES. SO. GOOD!!!!!!!!!!"
-BOOOOOOOOG
by slu on Oct 12, 2009 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's what the eyeballs said
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2009 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They have a fight; Triangle wins
(Accordian music)
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Oct 12, 2009 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Does he get wet
or does water get him instead?
"Everyone in here comes to the yard ready to play every day. I’ll take this group, any day until the day I die." ~
Ryan Fucking Ludwick
by RiverRat on Oct 12, 2009 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
nobody knows.
"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009
"POOL TEMPERATURES FUCK YEAH"--tgreenfield, The September 10th-11th VEB Off-Topic Explosion
by andi_k on Oct 13, 2009 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that was awesome
and well done replacing ibanez out there charlie
I'm like a polygon, I'm edgy.
"OHHHHH!!!!!!! IT TASTES. SO. GOOD!!!!!!!!!!"
-BOOOOOOOOG
by slu on Oct 12, 2009 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Giambi comes through
tie game tie game in the mountains
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2009 9:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
clutch hitting
novel concept that
I'm like a polygon, I'm edgy.
"OHHHHH!!!!!!! IT TASTES. SO. GOOD!!!!!!!!!!"
-BOOOOOOOOG
by slu on Oct 12, 2009 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
too soon
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2009 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i move on quickly...like j-lo...or a kardashian....or i don't really know much about pop culture so perhaps trying to make a witty pop culture reference is ill advised
I'm like a polygon, I'm edgy.
"OHHHHH!!!!!!! IT TASTES. SO. GOOD!!!!!!!!!!"
-BOOOOOOOOG
by slu on Oct 12, 2009 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Giambi can't believe his mustache has frozen
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2009 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
this blows
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by gdm426 on Oct 12, 2009 9:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Helton and Giambi score
they are in ecstasies
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2009 9:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yorvit is pumped
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2009 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
See, other teams have bad relief pitching too.
by notmorganfreeman on Oct 12, 2009 9:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
someone pointed out that every playoff team was sucking back there this year
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2009 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Arbitration and Free Agents
nice article on riveraveblues linked on mlbtraderumors about the non-guaranteed nature of contracts offered through arbitration to pending free agents. I was thinking of Troy Glaus in the example used on Todd Walker. If Glaus is offered arb, accepts, ends up he can’t hit in ST then maybe the Cards can cut him and not be locked into a big contract for 2010. If Glaus declines, then the Cards get a supplemental pick and whoever signs Glaus isn’t out any picks.
by ubeddie on Oct 12, 2009 9:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This is a good thought.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
by hazel on Oct 12, 2009 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
varitek wouldn't
do arb because he feared that scenario. at least he said that. interesting though if he accepted. 12 mil (or whatever) or nothing. would he do that?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
by cardball on Oct 12, 2009 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He needs to just check the ego and figure out that his skills have declined.
The sox have already generously overpaid for his name for three seasons now.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
by hazel on Oct 12, 2009 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i agree.
just saying i don’t know if glaus would do that deal. i think we’d have to be upfront about our thinking there, though.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
by cardball on Oct 12, 2009 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
show him a picture of his gut.
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2009 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rox fans try to create more white towel power behind the plate
or the lame guy wiggling his fingers
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2009 9:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
so shall we collect funds
and make this site nothing but a “Fire Burning in the Outfield” video?
I'm like a polygon, I'm edgy.
"OHHHHH!!!!!!! IT TASTES. SO. GOOD!!!!!!!!!!"
-BOOOOOOOOG
by slu on Oct 12, 2009 9:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, I'm winning now.
So why not?
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Oct 12, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
jroll is fast
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by gdm426 on Oct 12, 2009 9:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
heh
Positronic Upgraded Juggernaut Optimized for Logical Sabotage
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 12, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
everytime this douche says Utley's same, it sounds like he's saying ugly
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by gdm426 on Oct 12, 2009 9:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
STL's own wouldn't let me down
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by gdm426 on Oct 12, 2009 9:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Closers are not having a good playoffs
I'm like a polygon, I'm edgy.
"OHHHHH!!!!!!! IT TASTES. SO. GOOD!!!!!!!!!!"
-BOOOOOOOOG
by slu on Oct 12, 2009 9:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Neither are teams who lose the first game of a series.
"Of course Kolby Rasmus was going deep! That’s what Kolby Rasmus does! You don’t give Kolby Rasmus second chances!" -Kolby Rasmus
by hazel on Oct 12, 2009 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what a game
Positronic Upgraded Juggernaut Optimized for Logical Sabotage
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 12, 2009 9:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
victorino missed 3rd!
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by gdm426 on Oct 12, 2009 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well....at least we're not the only ones.
"Everyone in here comes to the yard ready to play every day. I’ll take this group, any day until the day I die." ~
Ryan Fucking Ludwick
by RiverRat on Oct 12, 2009 9:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
shane remembers how to touch a base
like a real ballplayer
"It was like two ankles." AVENGE BOOG
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Oct 12, 2009 9:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not to harp on bad memories
But watching the Phillies take ABs makes me wonder what might have been if the Cards had some plate discipline. Unbelievably good ABs, IMHO.
"Nothing in life is certain but death, taxes, and Albert Pujols batting .300/30/100."
by imfromstl on Oct 12, 2009 9:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
the look on the faces of the rockies fans is priceless
Positronic Upgraded Juggernaut Optimized for Logical Sabotage
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Oct 12, 2009 9:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
HFS
the year (playoffs) of the cursed closer continues. Franklin, Nathan, Papelbohn, now Street.
by mattyp on Oct 12, 2009 9:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Question now is
do the Phils have enough runs before Lidge comes in and gets lit up.
"Nothing in life is certain but death, taxes, and Albert Pujols batting .300/30/100."
by imfromstl on Oct 12, 2009 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
are they up 5?
then, no,
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
by cardball on Oct 12, 2009 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
now let's see what happens with Lidge
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by gdm426 on Oct 12, 2009 9:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
now let’s see what happenswith Lidgewhen i drop this brick of metallic sodium into this pan of vinegar
the truth can't hurt you, it's just like the dark/ it scares you witless, but in time you see things clear and stark -- macmanus
by tom s. on Oct 12, 2009 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just a guess here but does that mean
that he’s gonna blow up?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsh on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 12, 2009 9:39 PM EDT up reply