Cards Sign Royce Ring, Tree Falls In Forest
by wyld stallyns on Jan 5, 2009 4:57 PM EST
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I understand we were looking for another lefty reliever, a LOOGY. But no more LNOGYs (no-out) please.
Ring in '08:
ERA: 8.46
WHIP: 1.88
Against LHB: 58 PA, .264, 5 BB, 7 R.
Against RHB: .419
His 3-year split is better, but at this point, our righties may be better than that against lefties.
I guess anything is better than Flores was last year, but I seem to remember us already getting a couple of middling lefties this offseason.
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I'm pretty happy with this...
in his last 2.2 innings of work he gave up 11 runs. July first his ERA was 3.31, August first it was 8.46. Clearly something happened to him, be it injury, or mechanics, or whatnot.
I think it’s worth finding out what on a 28 year old lefty that was effective before that one month. If not, cut him in spring. I’m not excited at all by our current lefty options, and Ring might have the highest upside.
Not that I researched this thoroughly at all, obviously.
by bretsyboo on Jan 5, 2009 6:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Good Point
To often we look at overall stats but with a reliever the ERA can sometimes be misleading. Even though he walks a lot of people, I think he could help the Cards but who knows. I guess the Cards will find out
There are three things in my life which I really love: God, my family, and baseball. The only problem - once baseball season starts, I change the order around a bit. ~Al Gallagher, 1971
by wizardofozzie on Jan 5, 2009 10:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Uh...yeah, whatever
Remember when Cliff Politte got invited to spring training last year?
by mojowo11 on Jan 5, 2009 7:54 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
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by mattyfrommo on Jan 5, 2009 8:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That's a great Fanpost title
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by jd is legend on Jan 5, 2009 7:56 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Since there is a fanpost about this signing
does that mean somebody heard the tree fall?
Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose and sometime it rains.
by garden nome on Jan 6, 2009 11:09 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
On the same sports-page...
I also read that Milton Bradley has just been offered a 3-year, $30M deal.
I like to think of myself as a patient fan. And I understand these things are kind of a coincidence. But signing a LOOGY on a day your division rival inks an eight-figure player feels kind of like ashes in my mouth.
by JWO on Jan 5, 2009 8:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Oddly, our Left-handed relief was considered a strength of this team until about July.
Florez and Vilone both took 0 ERAS deep into May and were still under 3 until early July. And then the wheels came off. Concidentally, that took place along with the general bullpen struggles.
Thank god the cubs moved DeRosa and brought in Bradley. I agree that that move makes their team much worse.
by Czechguardsman on Jan 5, 2009 9:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
If Bradley
somehow stays healthy it doesn’t. But I don’t see that happening.
by spants on Jan 5, 2009 11:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the eye of saron
will be upon him
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
by sportsman on Jan 5, 2009 9:56 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Bradley will revert to 2000 -2007 Bradley, not...
The guy sheltered in obscurity in a bandbox in Texas in the middle of a Murderers row. And Bradley still missed time last year and didn’t crack 30HRS or 100RBIS. Bradley is a hothead who won’t adjust well to Chicago. And the Cubs no longer have DeRosa.
by Czechguardsman on Jan 6, 2009 1:52 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Bradley was still pretty good from 2000-2007
But not as good as DeRosa and for double the price and half the amount of playing time.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 6, 2009 2:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
For the love of Willie McGee...
Mo…buddy…what the…? Why are you offering this guy the money we give you as fans?
I CAN THROW LIVE CRAWFISH AND DO BETTER THAN THIS GUY.
This guy isn’t a LOOGY, he’s a loogie. Maybe Memphis needed a lefty?
I have discovered in twenty years of moving around a ball park, that the knowledge of the game is usually in inverse proportion to the price of the seats. ~Bill Veeck
by bukowski on Jan 5, 2009 10:17 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
THANK YOU BABY JESUS
PRINT THE PLAYOFF TICKETS NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by Hardcore Legend on Jan 5, 2009 10:58 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Glass half full
His 8.46 ERA came with a .390 BABIP and a 4.48 FIP. 14 of his runs came in his last 4 innings.
He will also ride a pegacorn to the mound to make him look better. It’s the intimidation factor.
The Godfather himself has decided to grace us with his presence. This is his damn house. He sleeps 20 feet away.
by thegodfather on Jan 5, 2009 11:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I though the song "Ring of Fire"
was supposed to do that for him?
Chuck Norris bows to no man...but he does bow to The Mang.
by miniboscorino on Jan 6, 2009 2:35 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
When I hear that song
all I think of is Preparation H, which used it in a TV spot a few years ago. Disturbing.
by spants on Jan 6, 2009 2:44 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That is most certainly disturbing
Maybe Ring needs some after what MLB hitters did to him last year.
Chuck Norris bows to no man...but he does bow to The Mang.
by miniboscorino on Jan 6, 2009 9:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It never happened.
Cash Family wouldn’t sell the rights.
The boys are all here for ya...we'll back you up...we'll be there...cause, Billy, we don't stink right now. We're the best team in baseball right now...right this minute...because of you. You're the reason. We're not gonna screw that up, we're gonna be awesome for you right now. Just throw.
by Tackle Box on Jan 6, 2009 10:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe
I saw a joke commercial? What the hell am I thinking of?
by spants on Jan 6, 2009 11:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think it made the news
and SNL might have done something on it. Not sure, but the only reason I knew about it was because I remembered seeing something on tv about the family not selling the rights. Maybe that whole thing just kinda stuck in your head?
The boys are all here for ya...we'll back you up...we'll be there...cause, Billy, we don't stink right now. We're the best team in baseball right now...right this minute...because of you. You're the reason. We're not gonna screw that up, we're gonna be awesome for you right now. Just throw.
by Tackle Box on Jan 7, 2009 1:11 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Can "Pegacorn" become the new VEB name for the bullpen cooler-scooter?
by mattybobo on Jan 6, 2009 3:18 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Sounds good to me
The Godfather himself has decided to grace us with his presence. This is his damn house. He sleeps 20 feet away.
by thegodfather on Jan 6, 2009 4:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm
Sounds like the old “throw shit at a wall” approach to solving the left-side bullpen question. This guy sounds mediocre at best…and if so he won’t make the team and we’ll never hear about him again. I see no downside really.
"Your Holiness, I'm Joseph Medwick. I, too, used to be a Cardinal."-Joe Medwick, to Pope Pius XII.
by redbirdnation8206 on Jan 6, 2009 2:36 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
It's better than overpaying for a LOOGY
Ohman would be much different from Miller and Ostiland/Ring/Manning but he would cost twice the amount and for multiple years.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 6, 2009 2:43 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
exactly
nothing wrong with pulling in some Spring Training glut for the specialist role and letting them battle it out.
One Century down, next on its way. Cardinals '09 : Preserving the Cubs tradition.
by AdjustedExpectations on Jan 6, 2009 5:14 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Middle relievers are a crapshoot anyway.
Neal Cotts and Cliff Politte were awesome the year the White Sox won the World Series and they’ve been shit ever since.
The boys are all here for ya...we'll back you up...we'll be there...cause, Billy, we don't stink right now. We're the best team in baseball right now...right this minute...because of you. You're the reason. We're not gonna screw that up, we're gonna be awesome for you right now. Just throw.
by Tackle Box on Jan 6, 2009 5:47 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Does anyone know
what’s gong on with Tyler Johnson? I’m pretty sure the Cardinals chose not to offer him a contract. Does anyone know where hes landed or if the Cardinals are thinking about bringing him back on a lesser deal?
by stl522 on Jan 6, 2009 10:38 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Supposedly Tyler Johnson gained 35 pounds last year and
they were upset with his conditioning. My guess is he won’t be back.
by Czechguardsman on Jan 6, 2009 12:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The Commish says
the Cards are not interested anymore. bummer. i always like TJ.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
by gdm426 on Jan 6, 2009 4:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I like the move
I know we signed Khalil Greene, but now that Braden Looper and Cesar Izturis are gone, we have a huge hole in the cool name department. We can fill that hole on Opening Day with Colby Rasmus, but you never can be too safe.
"The Mollusk" makes me want to rail LSD crystals off my friends' sternum. Rage."
by ICEYhawtSTUNNAZ on Jan 6, 2009 10:44 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
The Cards are loading up on F.A.T. LOOGYs.
Impressive.
by R.J. Anderson on Jan 6, 2009 7:17 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
And just when I thought it couldn't get any worse...
Hopefully we don’t have another 2008 when it comes to the bullpen, but this guy most likely can’t be trusted when it matters. We better have a 5 run lead before we put this guy in the game!
by zoomzoomj88 on Jan 25, 2009 10:35 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
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