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NLCS Game 7 Open Thread: October 19, 2006

Here is the game thread Larry gave us.  First pitch on MLB Network at 8 pm EST.


suppan               perez
12-7, 4.12        3-13, 6.55

over at tradesports.com, the cardinals are trading at $45.60, the mets at $53.70 . . . . at those odds, cards seem like a pretty good buy, but damned if i'm buying any shares --- i'm the kiss of death in the markets. guaranteed new york win if i'm holding a contract on st louis.

miklasz has the lineups:

ST. LOUIS NEW YORK
eckstein ss reyes ss
wilson lf lo duca c
pujols 1b beltran cf
encarnacion rf delgado 1b
edwards cf wright 3b
rolen 3b green rf
molina c valentin 2b
belliard 2b chavez lf
suppan p perez p

this is only suppan's fourth career start at shea stadium. his last came on may 19, 2004, his 8th start for st louis -- matched zeroes with steve trachsel (tonight's passed-over met starter) for six innings, departed with a no-decision. the cardinals scored in the 8th and won 1-0. he pitched another good game at shea on may 4, 1998, against a met lineup that prominently featured matt franco, butch huskey, and carlos baerga. supps (pitching for the arizona diamondbacks in their 1st season) went 6 and a third, allowed 1 run on 4 hits, got another no-decision; his team won 4-2 in 11 innings. and his first start there came on friday the 13th -- june 13, 1997 -- during supps' first full season. he gave up 10 baserunners and 2 hr in five innings, but the two dingers were solo shots and he stranded ev'ybody else; picked up a cheap win thanks to 8 runs of support from his bosox teammates.

i'm sure we'd all take our chances with any such like out of jeff this evening. they're a win away from the pennant -- get that win boys, and we'll all be celebrating later tonight.

Links:

Main Thread

Overflow I

Overflow II

What is it about 2006 that we seem to discredit?  When we talk fondly about NLCS Game 7s, it is 2004 with Edmonds catch and Rolen's HR.  Even taking back further, we talk about the series as a whole in 2004 as being incredible.  This 2006 series was no worse.  Sure, it didn't have the last-at-bat game ending hits but it had excitement. 

Game 1 was a pure pitcher's duel. 

Game 2 the Cardinals were down 6-4 with 7 outs to go and thanks to the bats of Speizio and Taguchi the Cardinals tacked on 5 to even the series. 

Game 3 featured tonight's pitching protagonist FREAKING WINKING AT THE OPPOSING PITCHER AND THEN DEPOSITING THE BALL IN THE BULLPEN!

Game 4, well...I was at Game 4 (my only game ever at the new Busch and I'd rather not talk about it)

Game 5 Pujols put his bat where his mouth was against Tom Glavine, leading us up to

Game 6, the Cardinals had their Ace on the mound and once again he left it with the good guys trailing.  With the World Series a mere 27 outs away, our backed-into-the-playoffs-heroes let us down. 

So here we stand, again, in a Game 7 of an NLCS game.  And, yes, again Jeff Suppan will take his bizarrely clutch self out to the mound and hope to pitch his way to another pennant for the club that snatched him off the scrap heap.  And yes, again Scott Rolen will hit another HR...but, er wait...we'll get to that later tonight.

I ask you, VEB bretheren, why do the 2004 and 2005 teams mean more to us than the 2006 team?  Why does Pujols' HR vs Lidge matter more than Yadi's giddy scamper around the bases?  Seemingly the only thing from the 2006 NLCS that rises above the two juggernauts the years before is Wainwright's nasty curve.

Soup's Word of the Day: pertinacity

Here's LB's link to the overflow thread that went up right after Molina's HR (didn't mean to ruin the ending for you, sorry!)

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I don't know about you guys

But the 2006 Game 7 of NLCS is my favorite Cardinal game of all time. I have it on dvd and every once in awhile watch it just to relieve the moments.

Stat Whore

by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 10, 2009 12:50 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

+1

Screw you, Aaron Miles. "Hope you tear your ACL, jackass!!" - Carl

by Zoop on Jan 10, 2009 3:17 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

+3

While I actually enjoyed Game 2 more, Game 7 is a total classic. I don’t think you can talk about Game 7 without mentioning Endy Chavez’s insane catch to stop the HR, followed by an insane play to get Endy out in the top of the next inning. By all rights, Chavez should have won the game for the Mets in those two play, but, inexplicably (why does that word crop up so much in relation to the 2006 team?) he didn’t, and instead Molina and Wainwright did.

Among series that I’ve watched, 2006 NLCS is second only to 2004 ALCS, which I believe is the greatest series of all time.

So says, Titus Pullo (formerly The Dude)

by Titus Pullo on Jan 12, 2009 10:04 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

One more thing

This article in the New Yorker about the 2006 NLCS is a great read. Even better because its from the perspective of a crushed mets fan.

So says, Titus Pullo (formerly The Dude)

by Titus Pullo on Jan 12, 2009 10:10 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

whoops

Link.

So says, Titus Pullo (formerly The Dude)

by Titus Pullo on Jan 12, 2009 10:10 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Here's another link

to the same article. You have to have an account to read the whole thing, though.

Cardinals Rule, by Roger Angell

by spants on Jan 12, 2009 1:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

agreed

I don’t think my neighbors have forgiven me yet for that night

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jan 10, 2009 2:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Sometimes I forget about the open spat between TLR and Rolen

in this series (as you can see because I meant to mention it twice and omitted it from the write-up) but it’s going to be awesome to hear Joe Buck talk about it for 3 hours tonight.

by Hardcore Legend on Jan 10, 2009 12:57 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

This team

won the World Series that either of the two teams before (2004 and 2005), should have won.

While the ’04 and ’05 teams were more exciting, and surely better, this team (with the core players still intact) found a way to win when no one expected them to do so.

And for that…the improbability of it…makes it that much sweeter…and takes away a little of the frustration of the ’04 and ’05 seasons.

"Fortune favors the bold!" - Virgil

by player2bnamedl8r on Jan 10, 2009 11:28 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

yadi's homer ranks above the pujols homer for me.

his hop after the curve is pretty damn sweet too.

i loved that game.

"I'm as nauseous as I've ever been. I have a terrible headache. My head is pounding. I feel like throwing up and I'm having trouble swallowing. And the beauty of it is, you want to feel like this every day." - Tony LaRussa

by adiueordie on Jan 10, 2009 1:08 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Going back through those old threads

I laugh at myself heaping praise on Randy Flores. Although he was decidedly awesome in that game.

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by jd is legend on Jan 10, 2009 1:39 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I remember Flores being pretty damn awesome that whole postseason

talk about picking the right time on your career to not be crappy, so thanks for that Randy!

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jan 10, 2009 2:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

looking back at those old threads embarrasses me

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jan 11, 2009 12:21 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Best game ever.

hecanthithecanthithecanthithecanthit

by Alxfritz on Jan 10, 2009 5:14 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

me too

"I'm as nauseous as I've ever been. I have a terrible headache. My head is pounding. I feel like throwing up and I'm having trouble swallowing. And the beauty of it is, you want to feel like this every day." - Tony LaRussa

by adiueordie on Jan 11, 2009 6:35 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

So how many people are joining me in watching this tonight?

I wonder if this will be like the Larsen game with in-studio interviews and Bob Costas hosting.

by Hardcore Legend on Jan 10, 2009 6:26 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

What the heck...

I’ll do it.

"Fortune favors the bold!" - Virgil

by player2bnamedl8r on Jan 10, 2009 6:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'll be watching this . . .

unless the Arizona Cardinals somehow hang w/ the Panthers tonight

by bmorgan on Jan 10, 2009 6:43 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Go Buzzsaw!

"Fortune favors the bold!" - Virgil

by player2bnamedl8r on Jan 10, 2009 6:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Seeing Eckstein at the plate...

I kinda miss the little guy…

"Fortune favors the bold!" - Virgil

by player2bnamedl8r on Jan 10, 2009 8:03 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Preston Wilson and Juan Encarnacion...

I kept hoping they’d get a hit. It was weird…

by mattybobo on Jan 10, 2009 8:48 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

The first

of two Endy Chavez popups to the outfield…

"Fortune favors the bold!" - Virgil

by player2bnamedl8r on Jan 10, 2009 9:13 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

How come Larsen's game got no crawl at the bottom

but this game we get that stupid update wire at the bottom? Do I really need to know that Chris Duffy signed with the Brewers?

by Hardcore Legend on Jan 10, 2009 9:20 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

If only Willie knew

what’s about to happen…

"Fortune favors the bold!" - Virgil

by player2bnamedl8r on Jan 10, 2009 9:25 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Hey Preston

remember, Jimmy’s got a Faberge egg for a skull right now man!

by Hardcore Legend on Jan 10, 2009 9:28 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

wasn't that comment in the original game thread?

Sounds familiar

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jan 10, 2009 10:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I forgot

about the rain. Just adds to the mystique of this game.

"Fortune favors the bold!" - Virgil

by player2bnamedl8r on Jan 10, 2009 9:33 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

It was a great catch...

great timing on the leap…but he was lucky too.

The ball easily could’ve slipped out when he pulled it back over.

Still…a great, great catch.

"Fortune favors the bold!" - Virgil

by player2bnamedl8r on Jan 10, 2009 9:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The best part is that it saved Willie's job

for probably another year because if he had given up that HR after Willie left him in, he’d have been fired by midnight.

by Hardcore Legend on Jan 10, 2009 9:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i see that catch and i have the same reaction...

i thought for sure we were toast after that….

if you can’t trust a southern lawyer cooking a kosher meal in a dumpster,
well, then, the world has grown far too cynical

by RosevilleRedbird on Jan 10, 2009 9:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

wow

at the time, that catch was soul breaking…. thank god we know we’re gonna win

by bmorgan on Jan 10, 2009 9:36 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Cardinal karma

is going to get back at Endy Chavez this inning…

"Fortune favors the bold!" - Virgil

by player2bnamedl8r on Jan 10, 2009 9:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

and i really miss this version of jeff suppan...

if you can’t trust a southern lawyer cooking a kosher meal in a dumpster,
well, then, the world has grown far too cynical

by RosevilleRedbird on Jan 10, 2009 9:43 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

This Soup

is full of grit. Clutch this inning.

"Fortune favors the bold!" - Virgil

by player2bnamedl8r on Jan 10, 2009 9:47 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Now playing 2nd base for the Dodgers...

Mark Loretta

"Fortune favors the bold!" - Virgil

by player2bnamedl8r on Jan 10, 2009 9:44 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

oh crap i forgot about that...

scotty really screwed that one up

if you can’t trust a southern lawyer cooking a kosher meal in a dumpster,
well, then, the world has grown far too cynical

by RosevilleRedbird on Jan 10, 2009 9:44 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yes, Joe

I’m sure Rolen was thinking about being robbed by Endy Chavez, and that’s why he sailed the ball.

"Fortune favors the bold!" - Virgil

by player2bnamedl8r on Jan 10, 2009 9:45 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

i think i was nauesous at this point in the game

i was sure it was over for us…

if you can’t trust a southern lawyer cooking a kosher meal in a dumpster,
well, then, the world has grown far too cynical

by RosevilleRedbird on Jan 10, 2009 9:46 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

no kidding

mets just saved themselves from a 2-run homer w/ chavez’s catch and then it’s bases loaded w/ one out the next inning. it seemed as if it was all slipping away

by bmorgan on Jan 10, 2009 9:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

At this moment I was thinking how unbareble life

was going to be after watching the Mets steal this game from us. How could any team recover from what Endy just did?

by Hardcore Legend on Jan 10, 2009 9:48 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Apparently, and I'm going out on a limb here

but I’d say the Mets hitters simply can’t hit curveballs. I wonder if that will become important later…

by Hardcore Legend on Jan 10, 2009 9:49 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Valentin rankings

Javier > Jose

"Fortune favors the bold!" - Virgil

by player2bnamedl8r on Jan 10, 2009 9:49 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

ladies and gentlemen your 2006 NLCS MVP Jeff Suppan

oh wait, did i give away the ending?

if you can’t trust a southern lawyer cooking a kosher meal in a dumpster,
well, then, the world has grown far too cynical

by RosevilleRedbird on Jan 10, 2009 9:49 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

endy chavez could have been a postseason hero

if he came through right there w/ the bases loaded

by bmorgan on Jan 10, 2009 9:50 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

He'd have made millions over the rest of his life

at autograph signings and memorabilia being known as the guy that made the catch and then drove in the winning runs the very next inning.

by Hardcore Legend on Jan 10, 2009 9:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i'm going through the game thread as i watch

what a complete rollercoaster of emotions everyone was on . . .

by bmorgan on Jan 10, 2009 9:52 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Hey listen!

It’s Luis Gonzalez in the booth. Way to speak for the first time in two hours, Luis!

by Hardcore Legend on Jan 10, 2009 9:53 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

There'll be some action

in that bullpen in the top of the ninth, Joe…

"Fortune favors the bold!" - Virgil

by player2bnamedl8r on Jan 10, 2009 9:53 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

sorry if this is stupid

but what was w/ the edwards/edmonds thing?

by bmorgan on Jan 10, 2009 10:01 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I don't remember how it started...

maybe Hardcore does…

"Fortune favors the bold!" - Virgil

by player2bnamedl8r on Jan 10, 2009 10:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Some guy came on

and called him Edwards and Scotty Rollins.

It was awesome. It kinda stuck, since for most of the 2006 season Jim Edmonds thought he was a pink elephant and didn’t know what his own name really was.

by Hardcore Legend on Jan 10, 2009 10:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Joe is foreshadowing

the World Series…

Yes, their young pitching arms were recharged…too much, as a matter of fact.

"Fortune favors the bold!" - Virgil

by player2bnamedl8r on Jan 10, 2009 10:03 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

The glory days

of the Speezer. It’s been all downhill since…

"Fortune favors the bold!" - Virgil

by player2bnamedl8r on Jan 10, 2009 10:11 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

yeah... i miss speezer

i hope he gets his life straightened out…

if you can’t trust a southern lawyer cooking a kosher meal in a dumpster,
well, then, the world has grown far too cynical

by RosevilleRedbird on Jan 10, 2009 10:11 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

You mispelled

Senor, pal…

"Fortune favors the bold!" - Virgil

by player2bnamedl8r on Jan 10, 2009 10:21 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

lol

I was thinking that, too

by bmorgan on Jan 10, 2009 10:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Senior Octubre

At least he didn’t spend too much for that sign…

"Fortune favors the bold!" - Virgil

by player2bnamedl8r on Jan 10, 2009 10:24 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

remember when

randy flores could actually get people out?
That seems like such a long time ago

by bmorgan on Jan 10, 2009 10:23 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

and truthfully

if pujols wasn’t holding on beltran, green’s shot down the line might have been a triple

by bmorgan on Jan 10, 2009 10:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

a bad feeling for the mets??

if you can’t trust a southern lawyer cooking a kosher meal in a dumpster,
well, then, the world has grown far too cynical

by RosevilleRedbird on Jan 10, 2009 10:29 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yes, Joe

Jim Edmonds has played in every post-season game so far for the Cardinals…and doesn’t remember any of them.

"Fortune favors the bold!" - Virgil

by player2bnamedl8r on Jan 10, 2009 10:29 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

There it is!

"Fortune favors the bold!" - Virgil

by player2bnamedl8r on Jan 10, 2009 10:33 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

that is still beautiful!!!!!!!!

if you can’t trust a southern lawyer cooking a kosher meal in a dumpster,
well, then, the world has grown far too cynical

by RosevilleRedbird on Jan 10, 2009 10:34 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

hey, its j-rod

i don’t really miss him that much

if you can’t trust a southern lawyer cooking a kosher meal in a dumpster,
well, then, the world has grown far too cynical

by RosevilleRedbird on Jan 10, 2009 10:35 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Not seeing

enough of Hazel Mae yet on MLBN…

"Fortune favors the bold!" - Virgil

by player2bnamedl8r on Jan 10, 2009 10:37 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

now, it's time to let the blood pressure rise

i don’t know if i’ve ever been more nervous during a half-inning in my life. i was working at a newspaper and we were on deadline and i just stopped working and stared at the tv w/ my hands on my head watching the bases load up for beltran, the playoff arch-nemesis.

by bmorgan on Jan 10, 2009 10:38 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Clif

you forgot an f…

"Fortune favors the bold!" - Virgil

by player2bnamedl8r on Jan 10, 2009 10:45 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Fun fact

I missed this game the first time because I was at Cirque de Soleil.

by mojowo11 on Jan 10, 2009 10:47 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

next time get your priorities straight man!

although there might be reasons one would go to Cirque de Soleil on that night.

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jan 10, 2009 10:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Well

Obviously we bought the tickets way in advance, so I didn’t really see it coming.

In any case, the girl I went with is my current GF, so it’s all good.

by mojowo11 on Jan 10, 2009 10:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

that was one of the reasons

understandable. The question is, would you have still went if the final game of the WS was that night?

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jan 10, 2009 11:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

that is one pretty curve ball

wainer sure rocks ’em to sleep

by bmorgan on Jan 10, 2009 10:48 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

God, no...

not this song!

"Fortune favors the bold!" - Virgil

by player2bnamedl8r on Jan 10, 2009 10:49 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

loduca walks here, right?

if you can’t trust a southern lawyer cooking a kosher meal in a dumpster,
well, then, the world has grown far too cynical

by RosevilleRedbird on Jan 10, 2009 10:51 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yep

"Fortune favors the bold!" - Virgil

by player2bnamedl8r on Jan 10, 2009 10:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i think i was close to vomiting blood at this point

the stress was killing me!!

if you can’t trust a southern lawyer cooking a kosher meal in a dumpster,
well, then, the world has grown far too cynical

by RosevilleRedbird on Jan 10, 2009 10:54 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

CARDS WIN!! CARDS WIN!!!

i just wanted to type that again…

if you can’t trust a southern lawyer cooking a kosher meal in a dumpster,
well, then, the world has grown far too cynical

by RosevilleRedbird on Jan 10, 2009 10:56 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

This magic moment...

"Fortune favors the bold!" - Virgil

by player2bnamedl8r on Jan 10, 2009 10:56 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

If you have a fast net connection

Let me know. I’m recording them on a dvr and going to convert them to DVD’s.. I can post them somewhere on my website and give you the link if your interested.

by cloistermaximus on Jan 11, 2009 12:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I was planning on doing it in a clandestine nature

And sharing the link with the folks around here that wanted it. Do you have the other NLCS games besides game 7? If so, we should arrange a way for you get those uploaded to my site.

by cloistermaximus on Jan 13, 2009 10:20 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

amazon.com

link

has games 5 and 7 of the NLCS and the whole world series, for ~$50 shipped.

still cannot accept that Rachael was Chani.

by SleepyCA on Jan 12, 2009 12:04 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

my favorite game ever

i ripped the DVD and put the whole game on my iphone – i frequently watch endy’s catch, yadi’s homer, and yadi’s leap at the end whenever i’m traveling. i happen to by in new york right now and think i’ll go ahead and show it around at the bar tonight.

by mattlo on Jan 12, 2009 5:28 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

edit

i happen to be in new york right now

by mattlo on Jan 12, 2009 5:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I have a DVR recorder on my DVD Player

A few years back when FSN ran the 8 LCS/WS wins and the clinch against San Diego I recorded them all and now have them on DVD forever and ever…Beautiful heirloom for my 9 year old son when the old man croaks.

"Your Holiness, I'm Joseph Medwick. I, too, used to be a Cardinal."-Joe Medwick, to Pope Pius XII.

by redbirdnation8206 on Jan 12, 2009 8:33 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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