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back slaps all around

just a quick n dirty post this morning, as i’m racing to meet some work deadlines:

the brewers turned into the cardinals last night, blowing a 4-2 lead in the 9th inning at home to the reds --- one day after the cubs blew a 9th-inning lead to cincinnati. the brewers have lost 6 of their last 8 games and lead the phillies (who won last night) by just 3 games in the wild card race --- and they open up a 4-game series at philadelphia on thursday. the soft part of the brewers’ schedule is over; of their 18 remaining games, 10 are against the cubs and phillies. sabathia is supposed to pitch wednesday, which means he won’t be available in philadelphia . . . . that’ll be an interesting series, to be sure. the brewers have run into a bunch of tough pitching matchups, facing the league’s 2d-, 3d-, and 8th-ranked pitchers in era, and it shows; they’ve scored just 20 runs scored so far this month (2.5 per game) and batted .228 as a team. the 5th- and 7th-ranked guys (hamels and dempster, respectively) loom on their immediate horizon.

the cards are now 4 games back in the loss column with 19 to play, still close enough for us to entertain fantasies. our side’s schedule is roughly equivalent to milwaukee’s; st louis has 6 games remaining with the cubs and 4 with the diamondbacks, who likely will throw both haren and webb at them. the other 9 games are against easy competition (pittsburgh and cincinnati). but it doesn’t really matter who they’re playing at this point; the cards will have to win every game, no matter how tough the opposition. if you’re hungry to see this team in the postseason, consider the playoffs underway beginning right now. we made it! back slaps all around.

the astros made it, too ---- they won last night and are now just half a game back of the cardinals, though still a game behind in the loss column. here are the nl central standings so far in september:

WL
astros 6 1
reds 4 3
cards 3 3
bucs 3 4
brewers 2 6
cubs 1 5

while the cards kick themselves for failing to exploit the brewers’ slump, the brewers are doing the same thing vis-vis the cubs, who actually are in a 1-7 nosedive (they lost their last two games in august). it probably won’t cost chicago the division, but it likely will deny them a chance to win 100 games, something they haven’t done since 1935. they’ve gone homerless in 6 of the 8 games, scoring 3 runs or fewer in all 6. they also are enduring a terrible stretch of bullpenning, with a 9.43 relief era in september.

a few quick notes of interest, and then i gotta wrap this up:

  • gary sheffield hit the 250,000th homer in mlb history last night. he hit no. 249,999 earlier in the game . . . . those were ##s 495 and 496 in sheffield’s career.
  • like palm beach last week, batavia led its playoff opener heading into the 8th inning . . . . and lost the game. adam reifer blew the save in the 9th, zach pitts lost it in the 12th. game 2 tonight.
  • matt leach will hold a live chat today at noon CDT. somebody ask him how likely he thinks it is that dave duncan will return next year.
  • after reaching base 6 times and driving in 3 vs the cards in his arizona debut, david eckstein went 0 for 11 in the dbacks’ sweep at los angeles.
  • pujols maintains a 1-point lead in the nl batting race. he’s the only major-league player with a slugging average higher than .600 so far this year ---- and he’s 49 points above that threshold. the next-best slugging average in baseball belongs to lance berkman, at .594. imagine what he might do if his elbow weren’t killing him . . . . .
  • ryan howard stands an excellent chance of becoming the first batter in big-league history to strike out 200 times in a season. he is at 186 with 18 games to play. howard set the record last year with 199 whiffffffs. . . .
  • the yankees are in 4th place. so are the tigers, whom many picked to win the whole thing after they added renteria, cabrera, and willis in the off-season.
  • with a win tonight, the cardinals can equal their 2007 win total.

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I don't know if Albert's elbow is killing him

The way I read DG’s article was he was concerned that if he waited a few more years to have it done he might not heal as quickly. He stated that it hasn’t really bothered him this year and he has been in a groove this year that wouldn’t have been possible last year because of the pain.

I don’t want to get too panicky here, but it sounds to me like he wants to make sure nothing gets in the way of him having a monster season during his walk year. I mean if it is not bothering him now and he is willing to put his 30/100 streak at risk, then what other reason would their be? Is the healing potential of a 28 year-old really that much better than a 30-31 year old?

Those Pilgrims ain't lookin' so proud now...

by giveml on Sep 9, 2008 8:31 AM EDT reply actions  

Maybe...

he is just trying to get some sympathy votes for the MVP since his “important” stats are down this year and RBI reigns supreme in BBWAA…i mean really who cares that he has ungodly OB and SLG numbers, its all about how many people are on base when a pitcher decided to pitch to you that matters

"Baseball is like church. Many attend, but few understand." -Wes Westrum

by nomar34 on Sep 9, 2008 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Let's hope you are right.

Either that…or let’s hope that Pujols’ agent and Dewitt/Mo are sitting by his hospital bed the next morning talking extension. :)

by stlfan on Sep 9, 2008 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have no problem with Albert seeking to fix his elbow while young and a quick healer

That said, I would much rather have had him give up the balance of this season in July to heal up for the start of 2009 rather than waiting to have the surgery in October or November and giving up part of 2009, when ideally the club will be better.

by JMedwick on Sep 9, 2008 9:46 AM EDT reply actions  

I understand that.....

But you do realize we’re a 4-5 game winning streak away from potentially being tied for the WC lead, or within a game most likely.

Point is, we’re close, and Albert isn’t the kind of player to “give up”.

by SoonerfanTU on Sep 9, 2008 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with you...mostly

I just think this team needs more along the lines of a 8-10 game winning streak to keep up with the Phillies. If only this team had it in em to go on a streak that long.

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Sep 9, 2008 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also.....

El Hombre doesn’t really have to miss much (if any) of ’09 if we miss the playoffs. Have the surgery in October, and be ready by May.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Sep 9, 2008 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Considering how well

Albert bounces back from injuries, if he has the surgery Sep 29th, I wouldn’t be shocked if he was in the lineup opening day. That would give him all of Oct, Nov, Dec, Jan, and Feb to rest and March to start getting ready.

And remember: He’s not human.

hecanthithecanthithecanthithecanthit

by Alxfritz on Sep 9, 2008 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well especially for a 1Bman

He’ll be a liability with his throwing for a couple months but I just don’t see as long as he can physically lob the ball from 1st to 2nd base that there’s any reason he couldn’t come back by opening day. His right arm doesn’t even fully extend when he’s swinging the bat right until way after he’s through the batting zone so I wouldn’t think a right elbow ligament would do anything to his hitting..

Kosuke Fukudome: $55 million .265 .365 .386
Skip Schumaker: $Free .307 .366 .421

by joker24 on Sep 9, 2008 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

We are really lucky as an organization...

We can have Amauri Marti supervise the surgery and perform the rehab. With him on-board, the Mang should heal in about 2 weeks.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Sep 9, 2008 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

A point made on the radio today (in chicago)

they made reference to the Phillies, but I’ll apply it to the Cards

if the Cubs win just one game per series from here on out, they’ll go 6-13 and finish 92-70. To tie them, the Cards would need to go 15-4

so our best chance at the playoffs (sadly) still involves the Cubs winning the division and the Cards taking the wildcard.

the Cubs can help us alot if they roll over for us then sweep Houston(3) and Milwaukee(6) (we will need some help from the Fish against the Astros and Phils too)

the Phillies have a lot of Atlanta and washington on the menu, so I’m not even sure who to root against in their 4 game set with the Brew crew this coming weekend

and for those who took their protonix today (if you haven’t STOP HERE and take it before reading further):
the stros have 6 with the priates, 3 each with the braves and Reds

by vances law on Sep 9, 2008 11:34 AM EDT reply actions  

I would prefer that

since it could set up a Cards-Cubs NLCS which would be the greatest thing since Inge struck out.

hecanthithecanthithecanthithecanthit

by Alxfritz on Sep 9, 2008 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

or perhaps the Phillies will just win their division

and the mets will collapse again.

it's time to bring the rock!!!!!!!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 9, 2008 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I very nearly would rather the Brew-Crew sweep the Cubbies and knock THEM out of the playoffs

I just couldn’t stand that fanbase if they actually won something. They’ve been worthless for a century and still are nearly intolerable.

Kosuke Fukudome: $55 million.262 .362 .382
Skip Schumaker: $Free .305 .365 .416
Skippy needs a new publicist

by joker24 on Sep 9, 2008 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah,

They’ve sucked for 100 years now they act like they invented the game (Also See: Red Sox, Boston).

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Sep 9, 2008 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Larry says it best

I wholeheartedly agree on this viewpoint for the rest of 08.

…but it doesn’t really matter who they’re playing at this point; the cards will have to win every game, no matter how tough the opposition.

This is the time to jell as a team and recreate early April magic. Great starts, excellent D, timely hitting and close out the game.

by ubeddie on Sep 9, 2008 11:37 AM EDT reply actions  

Totally unrelated, but

does anyone know the website that allows you to sort statistics for a team by the spot in the lineup? I know people were throwing it up there a bunch last offseason to show that the Cards had the worst cleanup hitters in the game, or whatever.

I wanted to do some research into the whole pitcher batting 8th thing.

by aNdrOss on Sep 9, 2008 11:41 AM EDT reply actions  

Alright Larry

since you said this is the playoffs already, I didn’t shave this morning.

by Hardcore Legend on Sep 9, 2008 11:46 AM EDT reply actions  

And I didn't shower!

hecanthithecanthithecanthithecanthit

by Alxfritz on Sep 9, 2008 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

beards = magic

defy, cards, defy. hey logic --- you suck.

by effin fisk on Sep 9, 2008 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

everyone break out your rally beards!

time for some Merlin magic

it's time to bring the rock!!!!!!!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 9, 2008 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

What do we do if we already have a beard?

Dye it red like Spezio?

Those Pilgrims ain't lookin' so proud now...

by giveml on Sep 9, 2008 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

what do we do if

we already have a beard and it’s already red?

In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.

by Tackle Box on Sep 9, 2008 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

what do I do since,

I’m in the military and they frown on beards?

Is a weekend beard sufficient?

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Sep 9, 2008 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

absolutley.

In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.

by Tackle Box on Sep 9, 2008 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

with only 3 weeks left

it’s your duty to the team to take leave and grow a beard.

It’s that time of year anyway; you probably have some use-or-lose, right?

the ******* plane has crashed into the mountain.

by SleepyCA on Sep 9, 2008 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shaving Private Ryan.

: /

In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.

by Tackle Box on Sep 9, 2008 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not to be confused with the adult film

Shaving Ryan’s Privates.

defy, cards, defy. hey logic --- you suck.

by effin fisk on Sep 9, 2008 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

with so many Ryans

on the team, it’s like choose your own sporking. My eyes…..

- Y.2.2

by Yadi2Second on Sep 9, 2008 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Currently Watching Excalibur

Where do I pick up my silver cap to go with the beard?

by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 9, 2008 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

So realistically.....

What’s are goal this series, 2 of 3?

by SoonerfanTU on Sep 9, 2008 12:01 PM EDT reply actions  

sweep

it's time to bring the rock!!!!!!!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 9, 2008 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ain't gonna happen.....

Chicago is the one team that is definitely better than us in the NL. Even though it’s at home, I think deep down you have to hope for 2 of 3, and catch fire after that. 3 of 3 would be nice, but the chances of that have to be less than 10%.

by SoonerfanTU on Sep 9, 2008 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

We don't sweep

we don’t go to the playoffs.

Cardinals have to sweep this series. 2 of 3 doesn’t really do us any good as the Brewers are likely to win Wednesday no matter what.

by Hardcore Legend on Sep 9, 2008 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I disagree

2 of 3 against the Cubbies, the games we need to sweep are against Pitt and Cincy.

by SoonerfanTU on Sep 9, 2008 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

playoffs

I agree that the playoffs have arrived. Execution (or everyone executing at the same time) has been a problem of late. So here’s my piece. The two concerns are 1) can the team make the playoffs, and 2) is the team ready for the playoffs.

This series might settle both questions neatly. Especially if we don’t have A.D.A.M. — he can’t pitch all the games… though I could see him trying to, since he’s A.D.A.M.

- Y.2.2

by Yadi2Second on Sep 9, 2008 12:06 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm not worried about the pitching.....

It’s the hitting that usually dooms us in the big games.

I really worry that we’ll put up enough runs against Dempster, Lilly, and Harden to win 2 games, let alone 3.

by SoonerfanTU on Sep 9, 2008 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

well

there is the bullpen too……

it's time to bring the rock!!!!!!!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 9, 2008 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Which for the most part.....

Has been better of late. Perfect? No, but functional.

by SoonerfanTU on Sep 9, 2008 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

once we finally started using the right people

it's time to bring the rock!!!!!!!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 9, 2008 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

pressure test

I wasn’t questioning the pitching, per se — the pitching in playoff conditions is what I wanted to see. We’ve got some known quantities with pitching under pressure, and some who can show what they’ve got. I mentioned Wainwright because he seems hungry for post-season, and I can believe his presence on the mound adds that mental push for the rest of the team.

But yes, I meant overall, pitching and hitting and you know, not making the obvious mistakes.

- Y.2.2

by Yadi2Second on Sep 9, 2008 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Motte

What does everybody think needs to be done with him next year? I see alot of predictions that have him starting on the ML roster in the pen. Personally, I’d rather see him start in Memphis and keep working on that slider, or a change-up. Just don’t think he will be ready for a full season on the big league roster.

by SoonerfanTU on Sep 9, 2008 12:23 PM EDT reply actions  

He'll start the season on the ML roster

Springer will be gone, Franklin might be gone if they could find a suitor.

CL – Perez
SU – McClellan
RH – Motter
RH – Thompson
RH – Kinney
LH – FA
LH – TJ

That’s how I see the bullpen shaking down.

by Hardcore Legend on Sep 9, 2008 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I disagree a little.....

I don’t think we’ll use Franklin, Springer, and Izzy. One will be on the roster for sure, and I’d probably bet that two of them are.

by SoonerfanTU on Sep 9, 2008 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm afraid he's going to be

Future Reyes.

"Hey, Jason, yeah, you’re more than serviceable in the Majors, and yeah, you cost next to nothing, but go dominate AAA again, because you’re not ready.

Never mind your k/9 numbers at AAA last year and a nice debut in the show…. But… Trust us, you’re not ready.

See you in September!"

hecanthithecanthithecanthithecanthit

by Alxfritz on Sep 9, 2008 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Take Kelvin Jimenez and Isringhausen’s innings (~60 combined) and donate them to Motte and he’ll have plenty of time to work on his stuff. It’s not like he could be worse than a 5.60 ERA throwing 99 mph anyway unless he walked half the batters he faced Farnsworth style which he doesn’t seem to do.

Kosuke Fukudome: $55 million.262 .362 .382
Skip Schumaker: $Free .305 .365 .416
Skippy needs a new publicist

by joker24 on Sep 9, 2008 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think that slider is going to get any better.

I’ve watched it over the course of the year and a) he doesn’t throw it very often in Memphis and b) it looks the same as it did on day 1. For better or worse, Motte is essentially a one-pitch pitcher.

by azruavatar on Sep 9, 2008 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

he'll still be of good use

in situations against batters that can’t catch up with the heat

it's time to bring the rock!!!!!!!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 9, 2008 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

In limited use

I think that falls heavily in the “for better category.”

I think the dugout needs a “in case of emergency use motte” glass covered button.

hecanthithecanthithecanthithecanthit

by Alxfritz on Sep 9, 2008 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like that idea

an emergency extinguisher

it's time to bring the rock!!!!!!!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 9, 2008 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do you think it makes sense to carry a one pitch pitcher?

He can be very usefull at times when you have a situation where you ideally need a pitcher who has the chance to get a K.

I assume Perez will be closing so you would not bring him in during the 7th inning. I think KMac is a guy who can get you a K when need be, but at certain times you may not want to burry him.

I think Motte can survive basically with one pitch as long as his command of his fastball is very good. I would say at this point his command is not outstanding.

by ICbirdfan on Sep 9, 2008 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, I do.

His slider is certainly below average but it’s got enough of a speed differential to be a show-me pitch. That’s all he really needs when he’s throwing 98mph. If you watch the game where he faced 4 batters (can’t remember the team), everyone was fouling the ball off late. His fastball is a plus-plus pitch even if it is straight.

He’s still good enough to be a setup man but I think that the idea he may suddenly improve his secondary offering to be an average offering is wishful thinking.

by azruavatar on Sep 9, 2008 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Arizona

I said the exact same thing when watching. The slider was a horrible hanging spinner at 91 mph that looked like he had no control over, but when sandwiched in between two 98-99 mph fastballs, it almost acts like a changeup.

In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.

by Tackle Box on Sep 9, 2008 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree Azruavatar.....

It was the Diamondbacks day game where he made his debut…. I was working so I missed that one and FSN did not replay the game like they said they would (that sucked)…

I saw him pitch Friday night against the Marlins and his fastball was straight as a string, but I agree his off speed was about 10 MPH different so it was good enough to keep guys off balnace. Like you said if you can touch 99 and locate you should be ok as long as you have some sort of off speed pitch.

I think he would be an assett as set up man or a guy you bring in when you really need to get a K.

by ICbirdfan on Sep 9, 2008 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why?

I’d have him working with a pitching coach all winter on it. Not like we’re trying to teach him a forkball, or something a bit harder to pick up on. No reason he can’t become average at either a slider, a curve, or a straight change. He just needs the practice.

by SoonerfanTU on Sep 9, 2008 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's been working on it for over a year now

and it’s still crap. It’s shown no improvement from April to August. Sending him to Memphis to make marginal improvements to a pitch that’s not entirely necessary is a waste of resources.

by azruavatar on Sep 9, 2008 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Most of that time.....

Is during the season. You really can’t improve on something during the year, b/c no matter how much management tells you not to worry about results, if you are pitching in a game with a winner and loser, you are going to care.

Not to mention most kids that grow up pitching learned to throw breaking stuff when they were 12-14 at the earliest. We all know Motte didn’t start pitching until what, 2 years ago? I’d bet an offseason where he worked on control and breaking stuff would do wonders.

by SoonerfanTU on Sep 9, 2008 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I bet he pitched in high school

might be wrong, but I have a hunch he did.

In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.

by Tackle Box on Sep 9, 2008 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Negative

He went the Troy Perceival route. He went all the way through high school and college being a catcher. The last time he was a pitcher before that was in Little League.

by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 9, 2008 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Remember...

he’s been a pitcher for <2 seasons.

by stlfan on Sep 9, 2008 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

He is going to be in a Winter League
The St. Louis Cardinals organization will be sending right-handed reliever Jason Motte to play for Naranjeros de Hermosillo in the Mexican Pacific League for the 2008-09 winter season. The Hermosillo club made the announcement on Sunday, August 31.

by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 9, 2008 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

That will help.....

But he’ll still run into the same problem of being able to fall back on his fastball and dominate in a game setting.

I’d rather see him stay home, get a “coach”, and throw on the side.

by SoonerfanTU on Sep 9, 2008 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

the thing i dont understand is that he throws at least 3 pitches

He’s shown a slider and some type of split or change. He’s never going to start so why even work on 2 secondary pitches. It seems to me the minor league coaches should have picked one or the other and mazimized that pitch.

by rlgosnell on Sep 9, 2008 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's frustrating that the astros are winning (and we aren't)

Since Lee got hurt, the only players on the current astros team with an OPS+ significantly over 100 are Lance Berkman and Ty Wiggington. Pence and matsui are both right at 100, but they have 2 everyday players with OPS+ in the 50’s. They are somehow 10 games over .500 with a -22 run deficit differential, and are outplaying their pythag by 7 games on the year.

For the love of god, Aaron Miles is outhitting miguel tejada, and tejada has GIDP 28 times… yet they are 27-10 since aug 1st. Over just those 37 games, they have a 34 run positive differential, and have overplayed their pythag by 4.5 games; they should be 22-15 or 23-14 in that time period.

Over that same time period, we’ve only played 32 games, and have gone 16-16 despite the exact same positive run differential (34) in 5 fewer games. We’ve underplayed our pythag by almost 3 wins; we should be 19-13 or 18-14. Had we merely played to our pythag win expectancy over the 5 weeks, we’d be tied for the WC lead.

Our offense has outscored the astros and our pitchers have outpitched the astros in the stretch run, yet they have won almost twice as many games. Amazing.

the ******* plane has crashed into the mountain.

by SleepyCA on Sep 9, 2008 1:16 PM EDT reply actions  

so I have to ask

what is up with this Marti myth? is he actually going to make it to the majors?

it's time to bring the rock!!!!!!!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 9, 2008 1:51 PM EDT reply actions  

He created the majors.

He’ just chooses not to play anymore. It wasn’t fair.

In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.

by Tackle Box on Sep 9, 2008 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cole Hamels

In regards to your question, I have no answer. But I have a piggy back question…

Was Cole Hamels the first player to receive this treatment?

by andujar on Sep 9, 2008 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

well if he's the hitting equivalent of Cole Hamels

Tony may have some kind of protection for Pujols!

it's time to bring the rock!!!!!!!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 9, 2008 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

He never seems to appear on any Card’s top prospects list, so I doubt the myth is anything more than a good time for those saying the Norris-type one liners. But we hope you get an informed answer to your question.

by andujar on Sep 9, 2008 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think he's even played since the middle of July anyway.

First Inning says he got 100 plate appearances with Memphis, but I think they’re confusing Memphis with Minatitlan.

First Inning Marti Page

In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.

by Tackle Box on Sep 9, 2008 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Last I heard

he went to play in the Mexican Leagues and was hitting around .400 but that was awhile ago. The guy is old and thus may never make more than a Rico Washington appearance in the Majors.

by StLHugo on Sep 9, 2008 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Leach chat?

What’s up with the Leach chat? I logged in late but don’t see anything there and the site won’t let me access a log. Did it get postponed or something?

Lou Brock loves Lamp.

by birdjam on Sep 9, 2008 3:02 PM EDT reply actions  

watching the 'Zona series last week

and hearing Eckstein’s walk-up music had my singing “Down in a Hole” all series.

In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.

by Tackle Box on Sep 9, 2008 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's awesome

I’m terrible at recognizing songs, but I have notes somewhere of everyone’s ab songs.

Anyone know Yadi’s?

- Y.2.2

by Yadi2Second on Sep 9, 2008 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Any idea on how interesting tonight's lineup

will be? Generally in very important games, Tony likes to go to the ‘vets’ like Adam Kennedy and Aaron Miles in place of a hot bat like Lopez. I don’t know why he does it, maybe it is a psychological thing of Big Game = Guys he trusts the most. However, it seems like over the last few years, he turns to a guy like Juan over Duncan, or Skip vs a LHP over a better hitting RH OF’er in ‘important’ games.

The best lineup he could put out tonight?

Skip – CF
Glaus – 3B
Pujols – 1B
Ludwick – RF
Lopez – 2B
Molina – C
Ankiel – LF
Lohse – P
Izturis – SS

But I doubt very much he’ll bury Ankiel that deep.

by Hardcore Legend on Sep 9, 2008 3:57 PM EDT reply actions  

I think Lopez will play

he’s played a lot lately, is hot and I believe he played 2 of 3 games in chicago, right?

In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.

by Tackle Box on Sep 9, 2008 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't mind seeing that lineup

but I’ll be surprised if we do

it's time to bring the rock!!!!!!!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 9, 2008 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Barton is available tonight as well

Hopefully that’ll put an end to the lopez outfield madness.

the ******* plane has crashed into the mountain.

by SleepyCA on Sep 9, 2008 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

is he off the DL?

Today is the first they’ll he be available to come off the DL. But I haven’t seen anyone say he is off the DL.

by Evilfrog on Sep 9, 2008 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

erm

I swear I read an mlb.com article this last week that said he’d be back on Tuesday. but now all I can find is this one, which says “might be back”… maybe I was reading what I wanted to read instead of what was written?

the ******* plane has crashed into the mountain.

by SleepyCA on Sep 9, 2008 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

damn

that would make my day if he gets to play

it's time to bring the rock!!!!!!!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 9, 2008 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wouldn't be the worst lineup, for sure.....

My guess is Ank in front of Lopez, and that’s the lineup.

Looking at who does what against Dempster:

Miles hasn’t done much in 8 AB’s.
Izturis is 3-13 against him.
Lopez is 3-18, so he may not start afterall.
Kennedy 2-7.

I’d guess based on that we’ll see Iz and AK starting.

Honestly, we don’t have anyone with a substantial amount of success and AB’s against him. Yadi has done well in 11 AB’s. LaRue in 5. Glaus is 2 for 5 with a double and triple.

by SoonerfanTU on Sep 9, 2008 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

on the Dude's chat today
Q: How likely is it that Dave Duncan will be back next year?
Leach: Clearly, you are a Viva El Birdos reader. I think in the end it’s likely that they’ll make it work. But my personal opinion is that he won’t come cheap, and it won’t be an automatic. I’d put the odds at something like 1-to-2.

link

by Evilfrog on Sep 9, 2008 4:34 PM EDT reply actions  

because larry made a point to request somebody ask leach about duncan?

i’m guessing leach read larry’s post this morning and expected it.

by mattybobo on Sep 9, 2008 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep.

You guessed correct.
-M.

Any comments, opinions, or observations I post here are mine and mine alone. They should not be taken as any sort of statement on behalf of my employer.

by MatthewHLeach on Sep 9, 2008 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

lurker....

jk

In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.

by Tackle Box on Sep 9, 2008 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love when you do that

just popping up out of the blue

by StLHugo on Sep 9, 2008 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

like my grandfather...

…who had selective hearing — deaf in the same room, but could hear his name spoken from the other end of the house. I can hear my name being mentioned allllll the way across the Internet.

-M.

Any comments, opinions, or observations I post here are mine and mine alone. They should not be taken as any sort of statement on behalf of my employer.

by MatthewHLeach on Sep 9, 2008 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

im sure I would be more productive at work

And a few more projects around the house would get done. The internet and the Wii have really effected my basement remodel.

by Evilfrog on Sep 9, 2008 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

This might be a first

but I totally agree with everything in Gorden’s article today.

Is it too late for a mass letter email drive to have APu reconsider reconsidering?

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Sep 9, 2008 6:52 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah

I’m still of the opinion that he should play until it blows out… it’s too unpredictable to see what happens after the surgery

it's time to bring the rock!!!!!!!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 9, 2008 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

go marlins!

Go Nats!

Poor John Lannan.

the ******* plane has crashed into the mountain.

by SleepyCA on Sep 9, 2008 7:46 PM EDT reply actions  

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