Game 140 Open Thread- 3rd September, 2008
by the red baron on Sep 3, 2008 3:00 PM EDT
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Lohse Davis
13-6, 3.89 6-8, 4.59
A true survivor
An old thorn in a birds' side
A win for glory
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Shame on the Cardinals
for not winning on Monday and making my prediction of us sweeping the DBacks and Cubs/Brewers losing their series.
Oh well, I’ll let it slide as long as you win today.
Anyone read what Colby's dad said
I am not optimistic at this point in time that Colby will ever be cemented into a lineup in St. Louis because he just hit .250 in AAA, which is not very good by the way. I have posted my thoughts numerous times that I think the current group of outfielders are really good baseball players and that those players could be in St. Louis for many years blocking Colby from ever playing in St. Louis. They are better than he is right now and may continue to be in the years to come but for Colby to dislodge any one of them(and Skip is the only one who can be dislodged) he will have to play above his head IMO because TLR will never put him in the lineup if he is not way better than what is already there.
Look at who’s in St. Louis and who’s on the way. Daryl Jones, Jay, Robinson, Wallace, Freese, Craig are all going to be playing OF next year. I still believe Colby is the best trade chip that can be traded so I still think the odds are Colby is traded if TLR stays.
But your post was infering that Colby would not be signing a long term contract with St. Louis because he was mad with the organization. Well he never told me he was mad with anybody but himself. I get the impression he was indecisive on many things he did this year and unsure of himself. I think he finally understands what he needs to do and will not be swayed from what he believes he needs to do to be ready to hit in AAA. He does not believe he has a chance to make the team out of Spring training(geez, finally) and knows he will have to prove himself in AAA if he is ever to touch foot in the big leagues. This is a major upgrade in his thinking process IMO because he thought Spring training numbers would dictate his making the team this year and he never had a chance. He understands this now, which is good. This way he can focus on hitting in AAA and not worry about Spring training next year, heck, I wish they wouldn’t even let him in big league camp, until he earned it.
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=321&f=2089&t=2905527&p=5
I like the last line, a subtle dig at a certain manager.
Isn't there a saying of some sort.
Something like, “these things have a way of working themselves out.”
by mikeonthecards on Sep 3, 2008 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Right
Right now we have 4 injuried outfielders. And yeah, if Colby hit better than Stav or Mather in AAA he would have been up. But he got hurt as he was getting better. Sucks but it happens. As far as Rasmus’s chances of making the team out of spring training next year; they are going to be much better than they were this year; but it all depends on who is on the Roster and who is hurt.
I think the team did him a diservice by allowing him to continue to play with the big club after he was informed he would be starting in AAA. They should have sent him to AAA camp as soon as they informed him of it.
"Look at who’s in St. Louis and who’s on the way. Daryl Jones, Jay, Robinson, Wallace, Freese, Craig are all going to be playing OF next year."
Hmmm. Am I missing something here?
I sure wish I had a dad who liked to talk about me and my thought process on the interwebs as much as Colby’s dad does.
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
so is Freese and Craig
All of a sudden, we have a glaring hole at 3rd base in the organization!!!
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
Craig played LF
after returning from the DL while Wallace played 3B at Springfield.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 3, 2008 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Wallace and Craig will probably spend time in the OF
so that they can give themselves a better chance of making the roster, rather than be tied down to 1 position.
Freese, Craig and Wallace are all 3B prospects that the club is high on and they are probably going to have to either be traded or see position changes.
He’s not saying those players are all going to be in St. Louis next year, but they are all probably ready for MLB play either midway through next year (for some) or midway through 2010 (for others).
There is a logjam and the logjam starts with Skippy mashing this year and two near 30 OF’ers that will likely be signed to 5 year deals or so.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 3, 2008 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
but Freese and Craig aren't going to be starting outfielders
at best, they’re either 3rd basemen, 1st basemen, 2nd basemen or utility players. Why would the organization move Rasmus to make room for utility players?
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
Why are you parsing the sentence like that?
Right now:
Skippy
Ankiel
Ludwick
Soon:
Robinson
Jay
Jones
3B that atleast 1 will need to change positions:
Wallace
Freese
Craig
Those lists also ignore Chris Duncan (arby eligible) and Joe Mather (who has looked good this year).
His point is that the Cardinals are high on everyone BUT Colby Rasmus, a guy they don’t think has earned playing time. He is also their best trading chip. So, in the best interest of both parties, they could move Colby to fill other needs since the OF won’t be one (in his opinion).
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 3, 2008 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Okay, so let me ask this question
who would you trade him for? Obviously either a middle infielder or a starting pitcher, right?
Btw, I don’t know how they aren’t high on him. He made AAA as a 21 year old. Isn’t that some sort of show of confidence?
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
What a douche.
I’ve seen star players that have dads like this, and it rarely works out for the best.
Colby, tell your dad to shut his trap and let you play baseball.
agreed, if it is his dad or some jackass posting as his dad......
They need to shut the F-up and make Colby proove it…..
Cry me a F’ing river you r 21 and the org obviously likes you. What a douche bag
+1
Mind you, this is all being said just a few months after the dad’s scout.com account was supposedly hijacked by one of the younger rasmusses (who happened to write exactly like the dad), after which he was apparently chewed out by STL organization. He proceeded to edit out all his negative comments and promised to go away and not post anything else regarding Colby or Cory.
So I guess he’s back?
the ******* plane has crashed into the mountain.
Colby's Dad = Helicopter Parent?
Does Colby’s dad not realize that the internet is a public thing? That anyone can read his postings? That these types of postings are likely getting back to the organization?
He is going to give Colby a label of “difficult” that will follow him from team to team.
I know the parents of other Cardinals prospects and while they aren’t always happy with how their kids are handled, they don’t express it anywhere.
I too wonder whether this is actually Colby’s dad given how unwise this is.
PJ Walter's dad used to post on that forum too
but IIRC he’never wrote the kinds of things that Colby’s dad writes about his kid.
the ******* plane has crashed into the mountain.
Perhaps he sees this as an opportunity
to exploit LaRussa’s heightened confidence in Skippy, Rick and Ludwick …to go along with his devotion to Chris as a chance to get his son out of the organization.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 3, 2008 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I think the best thing for Colby Rasmus right now
would be to have his dad butt out of the picture. it’s like he’s treating his son like a way to make a bunch of money, a “trading chip” if you will
it's time to bring the rock!!!!!!!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 3, 2008 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I really wish he'd shut his mouth sometimes
he’s really making himself out to be a disgruntled idiot. what business does a players’ dad have airing his grievances on a message board, anyway? I appreciate the access, but he’s not making things easier on his son.
Amaury translates into "Punisher of Spheroids" in the lost tongue of Atlantis. Marti means "Belgian Waffle." www.futureredbirds.net
I don't get that reading in the last line
Sounds to me like he’s in agreement with Tony on this one. Sounds like he thinks that Razzle getting knocked down a peg is the best thing that could happen to him.
But I agree with a lot of people here in that he should probably keep these thoughts to himself. Let Colby do the talking, either through the press or with his bat this winter.
Brian Barden
is 3-4 lifetime against today’s Snake starter, Doug Davis.
So, there’s that.
by Hal Lanier's Pants on Sep 3, 2008 3:26 PM EDT reply actions
lineup per Yahoo
St. Louis
C. Izturis ss
T. Glaus 3b
A. Pujols 1b
R. Ludwick rf
J. Phelps lf
Y. Molina c
F. Lopez 2b
K. Lohse p
S. Schumaker cf
Arizona
S. Drew ss
D. Eckstein 2b
C. Jackson lf
A. Dunn rf
M. Reynolds 3b
C. Tracy 1b
C. Young cf
C. Snyder c
D. Davis p
I have a love/hate relationship with the Cardinals' middle relief corps.
Phelps in left is interesting.
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
Has it been pointed out that
Starters who were told to be relievers:
Anthony Reyes
Brad Thompson
Mike Parisi
Jamie Garcia
All had to be shut down because of arm problems, 2 of which had to have arm surgery this year?
What is it, not conditioned for the role?
.
Nothing was like the College World Series 2 years ago
I mean literally every chance they got to show the crowd the cameramen were shooting for the hotties. It was the most hilarious thing I’d seen on TV.
Kosuke Fukudome: $55 million .265 .365 .386
Skip Schumaker: $Free .307 .366 .421
I hope Doug Davis has another bag of tricks
because that ‘cutter inside’ followed by ‘cutter right down the middle’ at 84 mph is going to get lit up.
Don't let Skippy fool you
you will be getting lit up next inning.
So, don’t give up runs here, Lohse.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 3, 2008 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
And the Cubs will look to extend their losing streak
to 5 games tonight.
by mikeonthecards on Sep 3, 2008 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
300 baby!
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
Glaus in the 2 spot
terrible idea? ha. it seems like everything is easier for him now for some reason.
I have a love/hate relationship with the Cardinals' middle relief corps.
You know, if we win today
most likely we will be 4 and 1/2 games back
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
Give TLR a little credit.....
Glaus was slumping, Tony moved him in front of Albert, now he’s had back to back games with HR’s.
makes you wonder
if they could just run a rotation in front of Albert
Ankiel one game, Glaus the next, Ludwick after that…rinse lather repeat
try to keep them all from being so streaky
by Pitchers Hit Eighth on Sep 3, 2008 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Now let's move him to leadoff
sign Barry Bonds and bat him cleanup!
Oh wait, I swear we had that idea 3 months ago.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 3, 2008 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Most people didn't want Bonds at the beginning of the year......
Most didn’t want him a few months ago, and most don’t want him now.
Maybe.....
Maybe not.
I still see more bad coming from signing him, than good. And if that wasn’t the case, some team would have taken a chance on him.
Exactly.
The bad far outweighs the good imo. I’ve been having this debate with my boss all summer. He swears collusion, I say no way, and it doesn’t even have anything to do with PEDs. All about bad baggage.
by mikeonthecards on Sep 3, 2008 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
sure
I mean, the media picks thier fall guys. They say it was because they expected him in jail by this time. We he isn’t. I think a line up of Glaus-Pujols-Bonds-Ludwick-Ankiel would scare any pitcher half to death.
Think of this lineup to start a game
Glaus
Ankiel
Pujols
Bonds
Ludwick
R-L-R-L-R. LaRussa would be drooling on himself over that!
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 3, 2008 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
that, or
imagine having bonds in the dugout every night to pinch hit. Take one 7th or 8th inning PA away from Kennedy/iz2/miles and give it to Bonds, 150 or so high-leverage PA’s per year, and you’re talking a pretty big advantage.
He even could be like Izzy and not even bother to show up until the 6th inning or so, then leave right after he hits.
the ******* plane has crashed into the mountain.
most people
also once thought that leeches cured syphilis.
the ******* plane has crashed into the mountain.
maybe
you’re putting them in the wrong spots…
by hex706f726368 on Sep 3, 2008 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, but...
So have Molina and Lopez.
No point. No supporting statement. Just happy to see multiple guys striking the ball far on consecutive days.
I once shot a man just to see him die...then I got distracted and missed it.
Uh.....
Those guys were slumping in recent weeks. So yea, I have a point, and a supporting statement.
I was saying I have no point and no supporting statement.
I wasn’t arguing with you at all. I do like the two-spot as the slump buster. Go Glaus. He likey the two-spot.
I once shot a man just to see him die...then I got distracted and missed it.
Congrats Glaus!
- of the season, #300 career!
it's time to bring the rock!!!!!!!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 3, 2008 4:26 PM EDT reply actions
I typed number 23 of the season there
it's time to bring the rock!!!!!!!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 3, 2008 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Come on Yadi.
Take a ball. Davis was begging to have his pitch count raised to 60 that inning. Then again. Maybe I still want him in.
ma, that was a good pitch
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
wow
Lohse getting lucky with some of these, if you ask me
by Pitchers Hit Eighth on Sep 3, 2008 4:51 PM EDT reply actions
he just hit
chad tracy to load the bases
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Sep 3, 2008 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
sorry
that sounds worse than I anticipated.
he is getting squeezed.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Sep 3, 2008 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Getting squeezed
so it all balances out
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 3, 2008 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
also getting whiffs
on hanging breaking balls
by Pitchers Hit Eighth on Sep 3, 2008 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
wow, that was a really good play by Glaus
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
you might be able to see it
on gameday here in a bit.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Sep 3, 2008 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions
holy crap it was
excellent work by Lopez too
by Pitchers Hit Eighth on Sep 3, 2008 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Lohse hurt himself by taking 29 pitches that inning
My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!
I don't mean physically hurt himself
My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!
Deep pen
the sooner Lohse is out of this game, more than likely the better.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 3, 2008 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I should hope so
My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!
wow, Davis got calls off both sides of the plate against Albert
What’s up with that?
My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!
OT: For those that still live in STL.
I have to watch the games via Extra Innings here in Miami, and never get to see the post-game because they turn the broadcast off the very millisecond of the final out.
I used to enjoy the player interviews and such, and was wondering if anyone has heard any of the starters showing some Yadi love like Wainwright did in the paper earlier this year. I’m a big Molina fan, and read about the praise that Adam gave him. Has there been anything similar from say Lohse or Wellemeyer?
The Colonel and Pineiro
Have both given Yadi some love in the post game. I dont always watch it. (really, Im lucky I get the big screen when to watch the game. I normally get banish to the bedroom to listen to people “just talk about baseball.”) So it wouldn’t surprise me to hear other guys talk about the job Yadi does.
I'm pretty sure
a bunch of the young pitchers have talked about “just throwing what Yadi tells them” which, if my memory serves correct and this is true, is a very good thing, IMO
by Pitchers Hit Eighth on Sep 3, 2008 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Brewers lose
it's time to bring the rock!!!!!!!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 3, 2008 5:02 PM EDT reply actions
Sure would have been nice for us to have won that game on Monday
F’ing Pineiro
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
F'ing both of them!
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
sure would have been nice to sweep the asstros
it's time to bring the rock!!!!!!!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 3, 2008 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Or at least win a game or two!!
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
because
he is not a LF’er
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Sep 3, 2008 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't know
I must have fallen asleep from listening to Sutton’s depression over the DBacks sucking right now and missed the change.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 3, 2008 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
that is a very good question
I think Phelps must be out of the game
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
miles to 2nd
lopez to left
Obama/Pujols 2008.
by davethebutcher on Sep 3, 2008 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
double switch
Phelps out, Lopez to LF, Super Mario to 2b.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
we needed some miles grit
to counteract ecks.
Obama/Pujols 2008.
by davethebutcher on Sep 3, 2008 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess
Stavinoah is Mario after the mushroom.
by mikeonthecards on Sep 3, 2008 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
haha
and who would he be with flower power?
Obama/Pujols 2008.
by davethebutcher on Sep 3, 2008 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Good question.
Maybe Perez if he’s sporting the ’stache.
by mikeonthecards on Sep 3, 2008 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
How is Lopez so fast?
He looks a tad ‘overweight’ for his body type yet he’s faster than Izturis.
Who knew!
tattoo's
I hear they add about 10 lbs to your ego.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Sep 3, 2008 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
haha
not sure. he keeps em covered with some long sleeves.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Sep 3, 2008 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
That's entirely possible
his uniform could be the reason he looks ‘stocky’.
Just, with his speed, I expect him to look more like Izturis than Alex Rodriguez.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 3, 2008 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions
you've never seen me then
it's time to bring the rock!!!!!!!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 3, 2008 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I was just doing some Googling in regards to this question
I know I saw a pick of him not wearing the long undershirt sleeves somewhere and he looked like he was pretty well built.
Anyway, I ran across this…..
http://umpbump.com/press/hot-baseball-wife-jennifer-lopez/
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
Flip has done a good job since being here
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
Woooo Lohse!
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
that was big, woo woo
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
did they just say Lohse is 3-3?
golly
by Pitchers Hit Eighth on Sep 3, 2008 5:16 PM EDT reply actions
not a good AB
c’mon, Iz2. Don’t suck
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The one time Skip doesn't weakly ground out to the 2nd baseman
It would have been better than what he actually did…would have moved the runner over
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
At least we got one run
out of that inning
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Lohse
has he been ahead of many hitters this game? I just started watching in the 4th, so this is an actual question.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
OT rant
I just don’t get having minor league players coming off injury do rehab stints at a lower level. Makes no sense to me. After coming back from injury, Rasmus split time between the GCL and FSL. Why not just play him at Memphis? The Redbirds were playing Ryan in RF for chrissakes
Maybe he hasn't earned
being above Florida League?
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 3, 2008 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions
With all the injuries to our outfield
I anticipate me being very angry if Colby doesn’t make the team out of Spring Training. I can handle him as a bench player but he needs to be in the bigs. Heck, Longoria was hitting .200 when the Rays called him up from AAA this season for all the complaining about Colby’s season that goes on here. Rasmus is really in about the same prospect class that Longoria was.
Step one
Get as much as we can out of Skip’s peaking value
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
yup
it's time to bring the rock!!!!!!!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 3, 2008 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions
that is the Rays though
we all know they are a poorly ran franchise
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
you want Roy Hobbs in now, AZ?
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apparently Phelps wasn't cutting it out there
it's time to bring the rock!!!!!!!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 3, 2008 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Great game by him
especially with the tiny strikezone in the bottom half of innings.
I hope the game closes out:
KMac
Motte or Kinney
Perez
Or, we get up 5 runs and it doesn’t matter.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 3, 2008 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Wasn't Juan Cruz the Nationals pitcher
that hit a HR while pitching a no-hitter, acted goofy going around the bases and Pujols came up in the 9th and promptly ended the No-No by banging one off the upperdeck?
You know
I’m surprised the team hasn’t hired Pujols a “personal heckler.” Pujols is like the hulk…you wouldn’t like him when he’s mad (unless you’re a Cards fan!)
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
For some reason I think that was Livan Hernandez
I don’t think Juan has started since he was a cub.
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
Ramon Ortiz
was the one I was thinking of.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 3, 2008 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions
luddy needs to get hot again
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
needs to be patient
and take a strike —ugh!
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OK K-mac
I hope the Men in Black showed up on Monday and erased your memory of your performance in that game
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
OT: grudz shut down for the year
Hope he’s able to come back and play next year. Hard to believe it’s been 3 years since he left.
the ******* plane has crashed into the mountain.
That's a hell of an injury!!!
A torn deltoid in his ANKLE!!!!!!!!!
That’s gotta hurt.
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
Next pitcher, plz
K-mac got some bad vibe going
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Saw that coming
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
Duncan ejected?
Nice
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
Went out to the mound
and talked to Mac until the ump came out. He then gave him an earful about the strikezone and got asked to leave.
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
no way, shit
it's time to bring the rock!!!!!!!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 3, 2008 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions
You think
it was revenge for Upton?
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
I wouldn't presume to know
motives. I only know what I saw. That looked like a stomp to me, on the wrong side of the bag, on a joint that’s extended in the opposite direction. Snap a tendon on any ballplayer, much less Albert? I dunno. Someone else can watch it and call it. I confess to being pretty bad at judging high speed motion.
- Y.2.2
I was at work during the game,
and missed the replay last night, so I’m honestly curious.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
I like this kid,,,
But he has run out of gas this year…..Time to start letting someone else pitch the 7th…
Good thing we've already used up Phelps!
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DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
wow
ya scared me for a bit there
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 3, 2008 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Keep pumping the heater on Eck's fists, K-mac
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did you forget the izzy incidents?
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 3, 2008 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Motte?
Please no Flores here
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+1
it's time to bring the rock!!!!!!!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 3, 2008 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Gross
How about we don’t use K-Mac as a starter next year?
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DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
Why did Duncan get tossed?
and why did I have to show up when the bullpen is about ready to implode
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
Scroll up
You’ll find all the answers you need
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DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
I will find a reason for the impending bullpen implosion?
I am glad we have finally figured that one out
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...they suck?
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DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
coach question
Does anyone know why Duncan took his big magic book of pitches? Is he going to keep watch from the clubhouse? Or is there some rule where an ejected coach has to take all his gear with him?
Or is his handwriting that bad?
- Y.2.2
In comes Flo
Or Villone?
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DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
PLEASE NO FLO
and not Villain either
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So help me, if we lose this game
I blame Tony for randomly putting Aaron Miles in the game for NO DAMN REASON in the 5th inning!
i really do not think anyone could have turned that into two
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
It's uncertain whether he did it for no reason yet
Phelps could have pulled something or had an emergency or something like that. I agree, though…if it WAS for no reason, then he should have to answer to SOMEBODY
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
evidently
TLR was tired of seeing Phelps “play” LF.
think he’s tired of seeing Lopez in LF yet?
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Sep 3, 2008 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I bLame him more
for letting Mclellan load the bases in the 7th
by Brianzaredbird on Sep 3, 2008 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Come on Uncle Merrill...
Swing away…
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late to the game..
nice play by Izturis.
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terrible.
"There are three things in my life which I really love: God, my family, and baseball. The only problem - once baseball season starts, I change the order around a bit." ~Al Gallagher, 1971
go cards.
by thecoolalonzo on Sep 3, 2008 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Meatball
How did Dunn miss that?
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it was at his head?
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Sep 3, 2008 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions
the first pitch, I mean
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oh
sorry
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Sep 3, 2008 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions
wtf
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
I love me some Cardinal bullpen
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if by love you mean hate
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 3, 2008 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions
If baseball was a 6-inning sport
The 2008 Cardinals would be running away with the best all-time record
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
Would anyone expect anything else?
@ this point its hilarious
i find no humor
in what trots in from our bullpen.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Sep 3, 2008 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions
does that mean Carp is playing today?
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by thecoolalonzo on Sep 3, 2008 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions
If it's broke
Fix it next year
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DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
I fully expect
to see Ryan Franklin next inning.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 3, 2008 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
it's time to bring the rock!!!!!!!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 3, 2008 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Sep 3, 2008 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
and we use all the bad relievers.
it's time to bring the rock!!!!!!!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 3, 2008 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Who --besides Tony--wouldn't like to see Motte v. Dunn here
I mean, let’s see what the kid has
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so he could throw at his head
heh
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 3, 2008 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I sure wouldn't
Welcome to the bigs, kid! Now go throw that fastball past Adam Dunn. Oh by the way, he’s the go-ahead run!
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
Starting pitchers for the Cardinals
must cringe every time they come out of the game, figuring the bullpen will screw up all the good things they did the first 5-6 innings. Maybe TLR (and the rest of baseball) ought to forget about the fucking pitch counts when their guys are throwing shutouts.
ESPN talking about Pedroia for AL MVP
Gross
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DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
5th in VORP in AL at the start of the day.
Sizemore, A-Rod, Huff, Bradley ahead of him.
I know VORP isn’t everything, but I was expecting him to be a lot lower.
by notmorganfreeman on Sep 3, 2008 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions
That is surprising
I don’t follow the AL closely enough to really have an idea, but based on my fantasy team, I don’t see how you don’t give it to Josh Hamilton
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DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
Pedroia was interviewed today on ESPN
and was asked about MVP and he said he’d vote for Hamilton. Pedroia, by the way, has made a lot of great plays on defense, too. He’s had a helluva year overall and seems to have a good attitude. Same with Hamilton – both good guys.
by ccthemovieman on Sep 3, 2008 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions
It turns out VORP undervalues OBP as much as OPS does
Tango did a blog post on it I can find it if someone likes but it’s not very accurate. Ironically they already have an accurate linear weights version of VORP that for some reason they don’t use more frequently in RARP which is based off of EQA.
Kosuke Fukudome: $55 million .265 .365 .386
Skip Schumaker: $Free .307 .366 .421
he's 28th in the league by gross production average GPA
which is a weighted version of OPS invented by tango.
GPA = (OBP*1.8+SLG)/4
the ******* plane has crashed into the mountain.
so yeah
unless he’s been ozzie at 2B, he shouldn’t be talked about as an MVP candidate.
the ******* plane has crashed into the mountain.
Oh but he plays in Boston
That’s like +20 runs at least.
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Skip Schumaker: $Free .307 .366 .421
ugh....
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by Smokin Turkeys on Sep 3, 2008 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions
was that the viewer vote on who should win, where pedroia ran away with it? the announcer sounded (acting, of course) surprised
a red sox won an espn poll?
no way!
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by Smokin Turkeys on Sep 3, 2008 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Gosh
My world no longer makes sense…
"Crud, does that booger-eating spaz make me wanna puke!" - Tanner Boyle
Just walk Dunn already Ron
he’s seen what you’ve got, you ain’t foolin’ him.
Base is open, let’s move to the next guy.
and put someone else in
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Expected pitch selection for Motte: fastball, fastball, fastball, fastball, fastball, fastball, fastball, fastball, fastball
Eephus
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
I fooly expect a badass second pitch
just gonna believe the whole “One Pitch Guy” thing was just a cover
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how hard does the boy throw?
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
talk about an introduction to the big leagues
and he succeeds. Sweet.
the ******* plane has crashed into the mountain.
He's leaving Villone in, isn't he
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DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
No
someone is coming in, I missed who it was.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 3, 2008 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions
they went to commercial after TLR picked up the phone
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go cards.
by thecoolalonzo on Sep 3, 2008 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions
hello three run bomb
How depressing is it being you? Is it closer to being a lifelong cubs fan or being born without lips? - Janitor
AGAIN
doesnt get the 1 batter he came in for. At what point does it end?
They should sign me for next year
I also can’t throw strikes, but I’ll work for the minimum. Just put me in whenever you want me to walk someone.
Now it is time to see just how "straight" his fastball is
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Not that there's anything wrong with that!
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go cards.
by thecoolalonzo on Sep 3, 2008 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions
If you were going to use Motte
why not use him 4 batter’s ago, you know…when K-Mac wasn’t getting anyone out.
Heh
Peace Miles, we’re sliding our way down the suck ladder!
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"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
looks pretty straight
but its gas
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According to PITCHf/x
Averaged on those 4 pitches 11.6 inches of “rise” and -3.9 horizontal. The rise is awesome for explosiveness (though flyball prone) and actually the horizontal is nearly Yovani Gallardo territory of being so straight it’s good because it’s so different.
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Holy toledo Motte is a BADASS
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Motte's pitches look really mean!
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go cards.
seriously,
imagine him and perez in the bullpen next year, AWESOME
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awh yeah
it's time to bring the rock!!!!!!!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 3, 2008 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Woudnt that go against every MLB rule for young players...
oops, I forgot that that is just TLR’s rule. Ive been watching this team for so long, that I was beginning to think that there is an age limit in MLB like the NBA & NFL
holy shit
what a badass
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
Badass
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DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
99 by Dan and Al
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go cards.
"That dude
is breathing fire", says the D’back’s announcing crew.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
Must have just eaten a volcano taco
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
or
maybe he ate the Volcano
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Sep 3, 2008 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Have you had one?
curious if they’re any good.
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
I'm Irish
Spice and me absolutely don’t mix. Give me bland food all day long!
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
in a word
no. if you’d rather not spend a day on the toilet, then i’d advise against them.
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I don't have to be told twice
thank you very much.
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
that is not included in the advertisement
I was just thinking of running out to get one.
Pardon the pun
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Forget about the curve ball Ricky...
Give ’em the heater…
"Crud, does that booger-eating spaz make me wanna puke!" - Tanner Boyle
So where will they put this Motte fellow next year?
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Couldn't be any worse than what we've already got there
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DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
K, I meant, will he be starting, rotation, etc...
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go cards.
by thecoolalonzo on Sep 3, 2008 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions
lol.
"There are three things in my life which I really love: God, my family, and baseball. The only problem - once baseball season starts, I change the order around a bit." ~Al Gallagher, 1971
go cards.
by thecoolalonzo on Sep 3, 2008 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions
trade him to San Fran
where he’ll be a left-handed first baseman.
defy, cards, defy. hey logic --- you suck.
Motte vs. Perez
Could be a nice battle in Spring Training. I give the edge to Motte based on the “closer look”.
no kidding
the guy is freaking intimidating
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
That was an incredible pitching performance
High leverage situation right there, glad he got the job done.
And with STYLE, too!
what's this 97-98 mph i just saw?
that doesn’t look like pitching to contact, have fun in memphis next year sir…
/sarcasm
I've decided I like Motte.
Not the toughest decision of the day. As for Motte vs. Perez, there’s plenty o’ room for both, I’d say.
+1
yeah, forget the McClellan/Perez combo, make that a Motte/Perez please
it's time to bring the rock!!!!!!!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 3, 2008 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions
it could be a mean 7th-8th-9th in the coming years
Kyle Jason and Chris
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by Smokin Turkeys on Sep 3, 2008 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Definitely
Motte-tees. If we make the playoffs, I want him to dye it red.
"I believe he’s been reincarnated, that he played before, in the twenties and thirties, and he’s back to prove something."
Can you imagine 98 and then 82
coming from the same arm slot?
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 3, 2008 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions
i think what you would have would be called
Eric Gagne circa 2002. i also think it’s not the greatest sign he doesnt already throw one.
2003 was probably the greatest closer year ever
55 saves, 0 blown, 14.98 K/9 with a 6.88 K/bb. Hitters hit .133 off him with a .372 OPS.
Kosuke Fukudome: $55 million .265 .365 .386
Skip Schumaker: $Free .307 .366 .421
Corso
The Cardinals need to recruit Lee Corso to do some announcing and coin the phrase “Motte so fast, my friend!”
I might go into shock
if i have to watch 2 pitchers in the bullpen who can coame in and blow batters away.
That just won’t seem right
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win this one guys!
it's time to bring the rock!!!!!!!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 3, 2008 6:15 PM EDT reply actions
AL seems to think his work for the day is not done
for what that’s worth
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I'd run him back out there
which means he is probably done
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by Smokin Turkeys on Sep 3, 2008 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd like to see him pitch again.
"There are three things in my life which I really love: God, my family, and baseball. The only problem - once baseball season starts, I change the order around a bit." ~Al Gallagher, 1971
go cards.
by thecoolalonzo on Sep 3, 2008 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions
btw...
mark grace on the arizona telecasts is my new favorite tv guy in the whole league, he is very good…
And further more
why is Adam Kennedy getting an AB?
Couldn’t you PH here and put Lopez back at 2B and put ANYONE ELSE ON THE ROSTER in LF?
MLB did not overturn CC's one-hitter
Still a one-hitter
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
I overturned my one-hitter once.
Ashes everywhere. Total buzzkill, man.
by Andyfantastic on Sep 3, 2008 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Do you think that maybe Kennedy likes St. Louis so much
That he’s intentionally sucking to avoid being traded?
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
conversely
hes playing to not be DFA’d also.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Sep 3, 2008 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions
If Adam Kennedy was trying to suck
I would expect him to fail.
by Andyfantastic on Sep 3, 2008 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions
ha!
"There are three things in my life which I really love: God, my family, and baseball. The only problem - once baseball season starts, I change the order around a bit." ~Al Gallagher, 1971
go cards.
by thecoolalonzo on Sep 3, 2008 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Skip vs. RHP: Awesome
Skip vs. LHP: Me
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DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
He's faster than you are.
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
Crowd?
smattering of bodies?
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
Motte's exciting
but let’s not push this. He is still a 1-pitch pitcher and we should use someone else to start this inning.
like, who did you have in mind?
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
Flores is available.
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
That describes
half of our lineup.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
The Mottsie?
"A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while."- Ebby Calvin "Nuke" LaLoosh
If Motte makes the team next year
is he the emergency catcher too, or will that still be MIles’ job?
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
I thought Miles
was the emergency pitcher.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Sep 3, 2008 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions
yes
We have now seen 3 different pitches. So much for the one pitch pither label
Well the slider was a ball and the splitter was a hit so let's not get too excited
A 90 mph slider is a good start though…
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Skip Schumaker: $Free .307 .366 .421
that works as a secondary offering
“I’d watch out for the slider, he’s got no control over where it goes”
"How do I know it's the slider?!?"
“If you can see it, it isn’t the fastball.”
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 3, 2008 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions
He looked like a pitcher on that one
Guess it’s pretty easy to tell when he’s coming at you with something other than the fastball, when he short-arms it.
change up
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go cards.
split
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by Smokin Turkeys on Sep 3, 2008 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions
oh.
I was just echoing Dan.
"There are three things in my life which I really love: God, my family, and baseball. The only problem - once baseball season starts, I change the order around a bit." ~Al Gallagher, 1971
go cards.
by thecoolalonzo on Sep 3, 2008 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I didnt even know he threw a split
but they showed the grip
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by Smokin Turkeys on Sep 3, 2008 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
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by Smokin Turkeys on Sep 3, 2008 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions
so he throws a split-change, and a clider(cut-slider)
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by Smokin Turkeys on Sep 3, 2008 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions
probably the best thing about motte in my mind
is that he doesnt look like someone has a gun to his dog in the stands. he actually looks confident. thats a welcome change.
Hmm, TLR better fix that
You know he won’t be happy with that…
TLR
may be pissed already about that big Gameday grin…
"Crud, does that booger-eating spaz make me wanna puke!" - Tanner Boyle
Ummm a 91 mph slider for the K
Kosuke Fukudome: $55 million .265 .365 .386
Skip Schumaker: $Free .307 .366 .421
the only thing it has going for it
is they’re geared up for 98 and they get 91
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
PITCHf/x likes it
1.5 inches away from a righty which is pretty good. No tilt but that’s a damn fine cutter.
Kosuke Fukudome: $55 million .265 .365 .386
Skip Schumaker: $Free .307 .366 .421
overflow
can we get one? this thread is boggin me down.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
Control...
Does Motte’s control seem to be better than Perez’s? Perez’s slider is definitely superior to Motte’s though.
I think so
whether or not that is a good thing? I havent decided yet
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
doesn't have a sinker.
Looks too confident
Too young
Hasn’t earned it
Pick any combo from above
TLR was hitting the bottle again this season?
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by thecoolalonzo on Sep 3, 2008 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I havent' seen another pitch that was worth a damn
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
Great Question
I am pretty sure that the answer isn’t that the bullpen was set without him.
by Merry CRasmus on Sep 3, 2008 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions
that means he's eligible for the post season roster, right?
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
Did you see a viable second pitcher there?
I sure didn’t. He has no command of the slider/change/splitter/cutter or whatever it is. It’s up in the zone at a hittable speed (90mph) with no break. That’s why he was in Memphis.
His fastball is great but for all intents and purposes that’s all he has.
I still disagree
A 90 mph pitch that moves any amount (like I said PITCHf/x had it at 1.5 inches horizontal then 2.6 which is pretty good) is going to be tough to hit.
Kosuke Fukudome: $55 million .265 .365 .386
Skip Schumaker: $Free .307 .366 .421
His fastball, though
is better than anything Kelvin Jiminez throws.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 3, 2008 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I would agree
If the picther he would have been replacing didn’t top out at around 90mph with the FB and with similarly ineffective secondary pitches.
Gracie
just said that Motte is “slowly but surely becoming my favorite pitcher”.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
Two shake offs and a 99 mph fastball
what was he shaking off?
Fastball? No.
Fastball? No.
Fastball? Yes.
theyve seen the other offerings
he’s keepin em on their toes.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Sep 3, 2008 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions
97 fastball - no
98 fastball – no.
99 fastball? – YEAAAAHHHHH
Obama/Pujols 2008.
by davethebutcher on Sep 3, 2008 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Motte
is just that awesome
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Sep 3, 2008 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he's so amped up right now
he’d rip the head off a bird with his teeth.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 3, 2008 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions
that sounds more like Miles
to me.
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by thecoolalonzo on Sep 3, 2008 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions
...without even touching it
Kosuke Fukudome: $55 million .265 .365 .386
Skip Schumaker: $Free .307 .366 .421
It'd be like Randy hitting the bird...but that's only the result of the bird flying within 10 feet of his beard
Kosuke Fukudome: $55 million .265 .365 .386
Skip Schumaker: $Free .307 .366 .421
time for something offspeed
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one trick pony??
albeit a very fast pony
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by themanthemyth on Sep 3, 2008 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I take this one trick
Over Franklins 6 bad tricks.
point taken
comment retracted
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by themanthemyth on Sep 3, 2008 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Jason "GAS" Motte
according to dback announcers
Obama/Pujols 2008.
by davethebutcher on Sep 3, 2008 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions
He was just called "Scary"
I think that pretty much sums him up.
Obama/Pujols 2008.
by davethebutcher on Sep 3, 2008 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions
The Ford Mottestang?
… I’ll get my coat.
by notmorganfreeman on Sep 3, 2008 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions
cause he brings the cheese?
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by Smokin Turkeys on Sep 3, 2008 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Mottlerocket?
"There are three things in my life which I really love: God, my family, and baseball. The only problem - once baseball season starts, I change the order around a bit." ~Al Gallagher, 1971
go cards.
or Mottelrocket...
I couldn’t figure out how spelling that would make sense.
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by thecoolalonzo on Sep 3, 2008 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions
kid cant have many pitches left...
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Ojeda is the type of guy
that gives a guy like Motte trouble, doesn’t look to crush it, just keep making contact.
Nice debut kid.
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a 99 mph heater
will do that . kinda makes those “not so great secondary pitches” look not so bad
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
Now THAT was fun to watch!
and hear – Mark Grace ought to be Motte’s agent – he loves him.
I can’t wait until 2009 already with Motte and Perez.
by the way – Sabbathia does not get his no-hitter.
grace is a fantastic announcer
he really gets into the game, regardless of whats happening for his team. he is a lot of fun on the talkshows too. its nice to see a talking head who just loves baseball.
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by themanthemyth on Sep 3, 2008 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree
love his sense of humor and unbaised comments. Compare him to our boring color guy.
by ccthemovieman on Sep 3, 2008 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions
He's my favorite announcer
I know a lot of people can’t stand him, but he’s exactly what I like in a tv guy.
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no
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
So Motte pitched? I am still at work... going to have to watch the replay
Why did TLR bring him in today and not yesterday?
he didn't say
maybe because he was saving him for a real situation?
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
Needs a FULL caveman beard
Kosuke Fukudome: $55 million .265 .365 .386
Skip Schumaker: $Free .307 .366 .421
I sure hope
Studwick showed up today for the last of the game.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
Interesting
A “motte” in French is a “raised mound of earth”…
"Crud, does that booger-eating spaz make me wanna puke!" - Tanner Boyle
no way.
"There are three things in my life which I really love: God, my family, and baseball. The only problem - once baseball season starts, I change the order around a bit." ~Al Gallagher, 1971
go cards.
by thecoolalonzo on Sep 3, 2008 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/motte
"Crud, does that booger-eating spaz make me wanna puke!" - Tanner Boyle
that is so cool!
"There are three things in my life which I really love: God, my family, and baseball. The only problem - once baseball season starts, I change the order around a bit." ~Al Gallagher, 1971
go cards.
by thecoolalonzo on Sep 3, 2008 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Correction
It says “motte” is English.
"Crud, does that booger-eating spaz make me wanna puke!" - Tanner Boyle
Norman French and thence English.
As in, the “motte and bailey” — the first western European castles.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Call him Cahokia
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
I thought it was cool.
Cause he plays on a raised mound of earth.
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by thecoolalonzo on Sep 3, 2008 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Before they leveled them all to build casinos?
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you mean
“OK Perez, get the last three outs in a game in which we are leading by less than 3 runs after 8 innings”.
Wouldn’t want to make him nervous or anything.
the ******* plane has crashed into the mountain.
I stand corrected
Come on Young Pitcher, please record the 25th, 26th and 27th outs of this game which are of no more importance than the 1st, 2nd and 3rd outs!
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 3, 2008 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions
exactly
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Sep 3, 2008 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions
seems like that's why they told us he couldn't play 2B
remember, he had to do the weird hop stretch throw thing to get it over from SS, and from 2B the angle was all wrong esp on the turn.
Skip, OTOH, had a 92 mph fastball in high school.
the ******* plane has crashed into the mountain.
I absolutely love
the premature “Great Player of the Game” announcements. Why not wait until the game is over!?
always wonder about that
My family and I went deep into discussion about those premature sponsored things. What if there’s a better pitch/hit/fielding later?
- Y.2.2
because it has nothing to do with the player.
it has everything to do with the company sponosoring the advertisement.
wtf are they afraid of?
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by Smokin Turkeys on Sep 3, 2008 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions
AK
mightve had a chance, but double clutched the freakin ball
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
no chance
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
hence the word “mightve”
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Sep 3, 2008 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions
double-clutch or not
no chance.
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
ok
I get it.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Sep 3, 2008 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions
"Sometimes" = "always"
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I wonder what would happen if you got
Joe Morgan, Al Hrabosky, and Tim McCarver in a broadcast booth together. I think maybe the universe would implode.
"A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while."- Ebby Calvin "Nuke" LaLoosh
I wouldn't throw a slider
I’d throw heat above the strikezone.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 3, 2008 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions
not on this team
Thats how you go back to AAA
Poor Lohse
another win taken away by our famous bullpen. How many blown saves are we up to? 30?
Well, at least Motte was exciting.
Adam Dunn?
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by Smokin Turkeys on Sep 3, 2008 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions
hair...I am ripping it out...
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go cards.
Bad pitch
Down and in is going to be on the ground 90% of the time. Drawn in infield makes it almost impossible to keep it in front of them.
Exactly
they are so memorized by their own dogma.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 3, 2008 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions
This team...
SO FRUSTRATING
"I believe he’s been reincarnated, that he played before, in the twenties and thirties, and he’s back to prove something."
Well...
… that is not the outcome I was hoping for.
"A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while."- Ebby Calvin "Nuke" LaLoosh
FARK!
"There are three things in my life which I really love: God, my family, and baseball. The only problem - once baseball season starts, I change the order around a bit." ~Al Gallagher, 1971
go cards.
REALLY?
Are you kidding me?
"I believe he’s been reincarnated, that he played before, in the twenties and thirties, and he’s back to prove something."
Where have we seen this before?
This is so disgusting.
dammit
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
I just started believing again that we could make a run
Im sorry Wainwright, but its over
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agreed.
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go cards.
by thecoolalonzo on Sep 3, 2008 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions
he pitched like 2 days ago.
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thanks
all I knew was it wasn’t a week ago.
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
he was due for a blown save
its too bad he couldnt hold it
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by Smokin Turkeys on Sep 3, 2008 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions
How in gods name can Conor Jackson score from first with a "nothing behind you" defense
Kosuke Fukudome: $55 million .265 .365 .386
Skip Schumaker: $Free .307 .366 .421
have you seen how big the outfield is in Arizona?
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
He got
a lot faster during the offseason. A LOT faster. Plus, the ball was hit into the corner.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Lohse needs to be de-hexed
guy’s had no luck the last month
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That is......just..........oye
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everyone text the post game show and tell them to stop awarding the f***ing player of the game before it is over
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Im not sure yet
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by Smokin Turkeys on Sep 3, 2008 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions
37289
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by Smokin Turkeys on Sep 3, 2008 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep, when Perez has been getting guys out w/ the high heat the last few games
the Brew Crew must be laughing their asses off
I knew this would happen...
Happened last time Perez was called up, too.
For a while, he pitches like he did in the minors, throwing high heat and it works. But eventually Duncan has him throwing low, the pitch to contact stuff. And it just doesn’t work, since he doesn’t have a sinker.
living and dying by the 08 Cardinals...
Is no way to live.
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No, they did not
especially since Doug Davis is not good.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 3, 2008 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions
To be fair,
ump had a pretty wide K zone, and since Davis is a soft tosser, that’s what he needs to be effective.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
Yeah I am in the Tony camp today
offense sitting on a lead. a HR and the pitcher gets an RBI, then we do nothing.
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by Smokin Turkeys on Sep 3, 2008 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Well
he’s the one that let Adam Kennedy have an at-bat. :D
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 3, 2008 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions
This is also why you don't pull the IF in
with the GD lead! You need outs and instead of giving yourself a chance to get Jackson at 1B, they give up the run and the out.
Lame.
They out-think themselves again!
+1
but that ball gets through anyway I think
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by Smokin Turkeys on Sep 3, 2008 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought it would have too.
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
and why would you concede the tying run?
If it’s a 2 run lead, I agree, play ‘em back. But you can’t concede the run only up 1 with less than 2 outs.
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hindsight 20/20
probably still playing if that was a groundball out
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by Smokin Turkeys on Sep 3, 2008 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe
you could say that about a heck of a lot of stuff, doesn’t make it the right call. Besides, even with the infield back, that is probably through the hole and even if its stopped somehow, they probably don’t get the out at first.
but you don’t concede the tying run.
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
I agree
I have thought about it and you are right, they gotta be in right there. I guess I was just mad
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by Smokin Turkeys on Sep 3, 2008 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions
You concede the tying run
by coming in. How many weakly hit ground balls are given up by a guy throwing 97 mph?
Tony loves to do this with the infield in close/late situations and I doubt it works more than 10% of the time.
And today, it put the winning run at 1B with 1 out, instead of a tie game with 2 outs.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 3, 2008 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions
no
you concede the tying run by playing back and giving yourself no shot at throwing the runner out at home.
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
That's traditional thinking
but physics wise, the only way you can make a throw home is if the ball is hit directly at you when playing in.
If you play ‘medium’ depth, meaning in the baselines or a step behind them, you give yourself a better chance of actually making a play and getting atleast 1 out, at home or at 1B.
This ‘charging home plate’ stuff from the SS and 2B reduces their real chances of actually making a play.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 3, 2008 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, that's your opinion
and I, as well as a whole bunch of people, disagree. I don’t know how to refute your 10% claim, so I won’t.
I can say that an out at first base in that situation really doesn’t interest me much, because you’ve just allowed the game to be tied. I guess it comes down to a different philosophy.
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
It's the difference in playing to win
and playing not to lose.
I think in situations like that, they needed to try and avoid a loss as much as possible. A runner at 3rd with 1 out scores a lot more often than a hitter standing at home with 2 outs.
I think they needed to ignore the runner at 3rd and focus on getting out of the inning without losing.
Again, we disagree.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 4, 2008 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions
They...dont you mean he?
even though it may have been the right call…I dont know, Im just flabbergasted although I expected the outcome
infield in misplays
Is it me, or have we been hurt a lot recently with bad positioning in the infield? Do stats exist for that?
- Y.2.2
just barely
all time record is 39, we have 29. So with 22 games left, our magic “BS” number is 11.
the ******* plane has crashed into the mountain.
37289
text the post game show about naming the player of the game jinx
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I did!
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