Game 140 Open Thread- 3rd September, 2008
by the red baron on Sep 3, 2008 3:00 PM EDT
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Lohse Davis
13-6, 3.89 6-8, 4.59
A true survivor
An old thorn in a birds' side
A win for glory
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Shame on the Cardinals
for not winning on Monday and making my prediction of us sweeping the DBacks and Cubs/Brewers losing their series.
Oh well, I’ll let it slide as long as you win today.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 3, 2008 3:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Anyone read what Colby's dad said
I am not optimistic at this point in time that Colby will ever be cemented into a lineup in St. Louis because he just hit .250 in AAA, which is not very good by the way. I have posted my thoughts numerous times that I think the current group of outfielders are really good baseball players and that those players could be in St. Louis for many years blocking Colby from ever playing in St. Louis. They are better than he is right now and may continue to be in the years to come but for Colby to dislodge any one of them(and Skip is the only one who can be dislodged) he will have to play above his head IMO because TLR will never put him in the lineup if he is not way better than what is already there.
Look at who’s in St. Louis and who’s on the way. Daryl Jones, Jay, Robinson, Wallace, Freese, Craig are all going to be playing OF next year. I still believe Colby is the best trade chip that can be traded so I still think the odds are Colby is traded if TLR stays.
But your post was infering that Colby would not be signing a long term contract with St. Louis because he was mad with the organization. Well he never told me he was mad with anybody but himself. I get the impression he was indecisive on many things he did this year and unsure of himself. I think he finally understands what he needs to do and will not be swayed from what he believes he needs to do to be ready to hit in AAA. He does not believe he has a chance to make the team out of Spring training(geez, finally) and knows he will have to prove himself in AAA if he is ever to touch foot in the big leagues. This is a major upgrade in his thinking process IMO because he thought Spring training numbers would dictate his making the team this year and he never had a chance. He understands this now, which is good. This way he can focus on hitting in AAA and not worry about Spring training next year, heck, I wish they wouldn’t even let him in big league camp, until he earned it.
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=321&f=2089&t=2905527&p=5
I like the last line, a subtle dig at a certain manager.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 3, 2008 3:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Isn't there a saying of some sort.
Something like, “these things have a way of working themselves out.”
by mikeonthecards on Sep 3, 2008 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right
Right now we have 4 injuried outfielders. And yeah, if Colby hit better than Stav or Mather in AAA he would have been up. But he got hurt as he was getting better. Sucks but it happens. As far as Rasmus’s chances of making the team out of spring training next year; they are going to be much better than they were this year; but it all depends on who is on the Roster and who is hurt.
I think the team did him a diservice by allowing him to continue to play with the big club after he was informed he would be starting in AAA. They should have sent him to AAA camp as soon as they informed him of it.
by Evilfrog on Sep 3, 2008 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Look at who’s in St. Louis and who’s on the way. Daryl Jones, Jay, Robinson, Wallace, Freese, Craig are all going to be playing OF next year."
Hmmm. Am I missing something here?
I sure wish I had a dad who liked to talk about me and my thought process on the interwebs as much as Colby’s dad does.
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
by Tackle Box on Sep 3, 2008 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So...
Wallace is going to be in the OF next year. :-D
by Evilfrog on Sep 3, 2008 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so is Freese and Craig
All of a sudden, we have a glaring hole at 3rd base in the organization!!!
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
by Tackle Box on Sep 3, 2008 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Craig played LF
after returning from the DL while Wallace played 3B at Springfield.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 3, 2008 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wallace and Craig will probably spend time in the OF
so that they can give themselves a better chance of making the roster, rather than be tied down to 1 position.
Freese, Craig and Wallace are all 3B prospects that the club is high on and they are probably going to have to either be traded or see position changes.
He’s not saying those players are all going to be in St. Louis next year, but they are all probably ready for MLB play either midway through next year (for some) or midway through 2010 (for others).
There is a logjam and the logjam starts with Skippy mashing this year and two near 30 OF’ers that will likely be signed to 5 year deals or so.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 3, 2008 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
but Freese and Craig aren't going to be starting outfielders
at best, they’re either 3rd basemen, 1st basemen, 2nd basemen or utility players. Why would the organization move Rasmus to make room for utility players?
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
by Tackle Box on Sep 3, 2008 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why are you parsing the sentence like that?
Right now:
Skippy
Ankiel
Ludwick
Soon:
Robinson
Jay
Jones
3B that atleast 1 will need to change positions:
Wallace
Freese
Craig
Those lists also ignore Chris Duncan (arby eligible) and Joe Mather (who has looked good this year).
His point is that the Cardinals are high on everyone BUT Colby Rasmus, a guy they don’t think has earned playing time. He is also their best trading chip. So, in the best interest of both parties, they could move Colby to fill other needs since the OF won’t be one (in his opinion).
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 3, 2008 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay, so let me ask this question
who would you trade him for? Obviously either a middle infielder or a starting pitcher, right?
Btw, I don’t know how they aren’t high on him. He made AAA as a 21 year old. Isn’t that some sort of show of confidence?
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
by Tackle Box on Sep 3, 2008 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What a douche.
I’ve seen star players that have dads like this, and it rarely works out for the best.
Colby, tell your dad to shut his trap and let you play baseball.
by SoonerfanTU on Sep 3, 2008 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed, if it is his dad or some jackass posting as his dad......
They need to shut the F-up and make Colby proove it…..
Cry me a F’ing river you r 21 and the org obviously likes you. What a douche bag
by ICbirdfan on Sep 3, 2008 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Mind you, this is all being said just a few months after the dad’s scout.com account was supposedly hijacked by one of the younger rasmusses (who happened to write exactly like the dad), after which he was apparently chewed out by STL organization. He proceeded to edit out all his negative comments and promised to go away and not post anything else regarding Colby or Cory.
So I guess he’s back?
the ******* plane has crashed into the mountain.
by SleepyCA on Sep 3, 2008 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully
For the sake of Colby’s future I hope this is what happened.
by thepainguy on Sep 3, 2008 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Colby's Dad = Helicopter Parent?
Does Colby’s dad not realize that the internet is a public thing? That anyone can read his postings? That these types of postings are likely getting back to the organization?
He is going to give Colby a label of “difficult” that will follow him from team to team.
I know the parents of other Cardinals prospects and while they aren’t always happy with how their kids are handled, they don’t express it anywhere.
I too wonder whether this is actually Colby’s dad given how unwise this is.
by thepainguy on Sep 3, 2008 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
PJ Walter's dad used to post on that forum too
but IIRC he’never wrote the kinds of things that Colby’s dad writes about his kid.
the ******* plane has crashed into the mountain.
by SleepyCA on Sep 3, 2008 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps he sees this as an opportunity
to exploit LaRussa’s heightened confidence in Skippy, Rick and Ludwick …to go along with his devotion to Chris as a chance to get his son out of the organization.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 3, 2008 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
or moved to 3rd base
snice all of our 3 baggers are going to the outfield.
by Evilfrog on Sep 3, 2008 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the best thing for Colby Rasmus right now
would be to have his dad butt out of the picture. it’s like he’s treating his son like a way to make a bunch of money, a “trading chip” if you will
it's time to bring the rock!!!!!!!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 3, 2008 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really wish he'd shut his mouth sometimes
he’s really making himself out to be a disgruntled idiot. what business does a players’ dad have airing his grievances on a message board, anyway? I appreciate the access, but he’s not making things easier on his son.
Amaury translates into "Punisher of Spheroids" in the lost tongue of Atlantis. Marti means "Belgian Waffle." www.futureredbirds.net
by erik on Sep 3, 2008 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't get that reading in the last line
Sounds to me like he’s in agreement with Tony on this one. Sounds like he thinks that Razzle getting knocked down a peg is the best thing that could happen to him.
But I agree with a lot of people here in that he should probably keep these thoughts to himself. Let Colby do the talking, either through the press or with his bat this winter.
by liam on Sep 3, 2008 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brian Barden
is 3-4 lifetime against today’s Snake starter, Doug Davis.
So, there’s that.
by Hal Lanier's Pants on Sep 3, 2008 3:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
lineup per Yahoo
St. Louis
C. Izturis ss
T. Glaus 3b
A. Pujols 1b
R. Ludwick rf
J. Phelps lf
Y. Molina c
F. Lopez 2b
K. Lohse p
S. Schumaker cf
Arizona
S. Drew ss
D. Eckstein 2b
C. Jackson lf
A. Dunn rf
M. Reynolds 3b
C. Tracy 1b
C. Young cf
C. Snyder c
D. Davis p
I have a love/hate relationship with the Cardinals' middle relief corps.
by madding on Sep 3, 2008 3:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Phelps in left is interesting.
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
by Tackle Box on Sep 3, 2008 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Has it been pointed out that
Starters who were told to be relievers:
Anthony Reyes
Brad Thompson
Mike Parisi
Jamie Garcia
All had to be shut down because of arm problems, 2 of which had to have arm surgery this year?
What is it, not conditioned for the role?
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 3, 2008 3:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
arm gremlins lurking around the pen, obviously
it explains a lot.
by adiueordie on Sep 3, 2008 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love it when the camera men
show the hotties in the stands. Way to go FSN Arizona!
by mikeonthecards on Sep 3, 2008 3:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
.
Nothing was like the College World Series 2 years ago
I mean literally every chance they got to show the crowd the cameramen were shooting for the hotties. It was the most hilarious thing I’d seen on TV.
Kosuke Fukudome: $55 million .265 .365 .386
Skip Schumaker: $Free .307 .366 .421
by joker24 on Sep 3, 2008 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope Doug Davis has another bag of tricks
because that ‘cutter inside’ followed by ‘cutter right down the middle’ at 84 mph is going to get lit up.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 3, 2008 3:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Don't let Skippy fool you
you will be getting lit up next inning.
So, don’t give up runs here, Lohse.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 3, 2008 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And the Cubs will look to extend their losing streak
to 5 games tonight.
by mikeonthecards on Sep 3, 2008 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was the first good turn
I’ve seen from Lopez at second.
by mikeonthecards on Sep 3, 2008 4:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I TOLD YOU DOUG DAVIS
time for Plan B.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 3, 2008 4:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
#300 for Troy
has St. Louis ever had two guys reach that feat in the same season?
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 3, 2008 4:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
300 baby!
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
by ANDYAK47 on Sep 3, 2008 4:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Glaus in the 2 spot
terrible idea? ha. it seems like everything is easier for him now for some reason.
I have a love/hate relationship with the Cardinals' middle relief corps.
by madding on Sep 3, 2008 4:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hitting in front of Pujols
Will be a baniable PED next year.
by Evilfrog on Sep 3, 2008 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know, if we win today
most likely we will be 4 and 1/2 games back
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
by ANDYAK47 on Sep 3, 2008 4:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Give TLR a little credit.....
Glaus was slumping, Tony moved him in front of Albert, now he’s had back to back games with HR’s.
by SoonerfanTU on Sep 3, 2008 4:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
makes you wonder
if they could just run a rotation in front of Albert
Ankiel one game, Glaus the next, Ludwick after that…rinse lather repeat
try to keep them all from being so streaky
by Pitchers Hit Eighth on Sep 3, 2008 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now let's move him to leadoff
sign Barry Bonds and bat him cleanup!
Oh wait, I swear we had that idea 3 months ago.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 3, 2008 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Most people didn't want Bonds at the beginning of the year......
Most didn’t want him a few months ago, and most don’t want him now.
by SoonerfanTU on Sep 3, 2008 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
true
Good chance we would be leading the wild card race if we had him though.
by Evilfrog on Sep 3, 2008 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe.....
Maybe not.
I still see more bad coming from signing him, than good. And if that wasn’t the case, some team would have taken a chance on him.
by SoonerfanTU on Sep 3, 2008 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly.
The bad far outweighs the good imo. I’ve been having this debate with my boss all summer. He swears collusion, I say no way, and it doesn’t even have anything to do with PEDs. All about bad baggage.
by mikeonthecards on Sep 3, 2008 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sure
I mean, the media picks thier fall guys. They say it was because they expected him in jail by this time. We he isn’t. I think a line up of Glaus-Pujols-Bonds-Ludwick-Ankiel would scare any pitcher half to death.
by Evilfrog on Sep 3, 2008 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Think of this lineup to start a game
Glaus
Ankiel
Pujols
Bonds
Ludwick
R-L-R-L-R. LaRussa would be drooling on himself over that!
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 3, 2008 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We he isn't.
That’s good english right there. I shouldn’t work and post.
by Evilfrog on Sep 3, 2008 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that, or
imagine having bonds in the dugout every night to pinch hit. Take one 7th or 8th inning PA away from Kennedy/iz2/miles and give it to Bonds, 150 or so high-leverage PA’s per year, and you’re talking a pretty big advantage.
He even could be like Izzy and not even bother to show up until the 6th inning or so, then leave right after he hits.
the ******* plane has crashed into the mountain.
by SleepyCA on Sep 3, 2008 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
most people
also once thought that leeches cured syphilis.
the ******* plane has crashed into the mountain.
by SleepyCA on Sep 3, 2008 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
they dont.
I wish someone would have told me! You know how uncomfertable these things are!
by Evilfrog on Sep 3, 2008 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe
you’re putting them in the wrong spots…
by hex706f726368 on Sep 3, 2008 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but...
So have Molina and Lopez.
No point. No supporting statement. Just happy to see multiple guys striking the ball far on consecutive days.
I once shot a man just to see him die...then I got distracted and missed it.
by TheDuke32 on Sep 3, 2008 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Uh.....
Those guys were slumping in recent weeks. So yea, I have a point, and a supporting statement.
by SoonerfanTU on Sep 3, 2008 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was saying I have no point and no supporting statement.
I wasn’t arguing with you at all. I do like the two-spot as the slump buster. Go Glaus. He likey the two-spot.
I once shot a man just to see him die...then I got distracted and missed it.
by TheDuke32 on Sep 3, 2008 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Congrats Glaus!
- of the season, #300 career!
it's time to bring the rock!!!!!!!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 3, 2008 4:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I typed number 23 of the season there
it's time to bring the rock!!!!!!!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 3, 2008 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Come on Yadi.
Take a ball. Davis was begging to have his pitch count raised to 60 that inning. Then again. Maybe I still want him in.
by Evilfrog on Sep 3, 2008 4:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Come on Lohse
Lets get a K here than a DP okay?
by Evilfrog on Sep 3, 2008 4:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ma, that was a good pitch
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
by ANDYAK47 on Sep 3, 2008 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow
Lohse getting lucky with some of these, if you ask me
by Pitchers Hit Eighth on Sep 3, 2008 4:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm at school
Hows Lohse looking? Especially with the strikeouts?
by madeintaiwan on Sep 3, 2008 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he just hit
chad tracy to load the bases
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Sep 3, 2008 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sorry
that sounds worse than I anticipated.
he is getting squeezed.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Sep 3, 2008 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Getting squeezed
so it all balances out
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 3, 2008 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
also getting whiffs
on hanging breaking balls
by Pitchers Hit Eighth on Sep 3, 2008 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so like you said
balances out
by Pitchers Hit Eighth on Sep 3, 2008 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
pitch 1 to tracey
Sure looks like a strike to me. Am I missing anything?
by Evilfrog on Sep 3, 2008 4:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Frak'ing A
hitting a guy with 2 strikes?
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 3, 2008 4:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Gold Glove Glaus
saves the day!!!!
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 3, 2008 4:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
wow, that was a really good play by Glaus
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
by ANDYAK47 on Sep 3, 2008 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
:-(
I hate not being able to see great defensive plays.
by Evilfrog on Sep 3, 2008 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you might be able to see it
on gameday here in a bit.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Sep 3, 2008 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
holy crap it was
excellent work by Lopez too
by Pitchers Hit Eighth on Sep 3, 2008 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
GGreat Pick,
Troy!
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Sep 3, 2008 4:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Lohse hurt himself by taking 29 pitches that inning
My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!
by 82Special on Sep 3, 2008 4:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't mean physically hurt himself
My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!
by 82Special on Sep 3, 2008 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Deep pen
the sooner Lohse is out of this game, more than likely the better.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 3, 2008 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he has 7-8-9
up next. So he should be able to at least get through the 5th.
by Evilfrog on Sep 3, 2008 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I should hope so
My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!
by 82Special on Sep 3, 2008 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow, Davis got calls off both sides of the plate against Albert
What’s up with that?
My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!
by 82Special on Sep 3, 2008 4:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
OT: For those that still live in STL.
I have to watch the games via Extra Innings here in Miami, and never get to see the post-game because they turn the broadcast off the very millisecond of the final out.
I used to enjoy the player interviews and such, and was wondering if anyone has heard any of the starters showing some Yadi love like Wainwright did in the paper earlier this year. I’m a big Molina fan, and read about the praise that Adam gave him. Has there been anything similar from say Lohse or Wellemeyer?
by mikeonthecards on Sep 3, 2008 4:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The Colonel and Pineiro
Have both given Yadi some love in the post game. I dont always watch it. (really, Im lucky I get the big screen when to watch the game. I normally get banish to the bedroom to listen to people “just talk about baseball.”) So it wouldn’t surprise me to hear other guys talk about the job Yadi does.
by Evilfrog on Sep 3, 2008 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm pretty sure
a bunch of the young pitchers have talked about “just throwing what Yadi tells them” which, if my memory serves correct and this is true, is a very good thing, IMO
by Pitchers Hit Eighth on Sep 3, 2008 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brewers lose
it's time to bring the rock!!!!!!!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 3, 2008 5:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sure would have been nice for us to have won that game on Monday
F’ing Pineiro
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
by Mr Redbird on Sep 3, 2008 5:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
F'ing both of them!
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
by Mr Redbird on Sep 3, 2008 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sure would have been nice to sweep the asstros
it's time to bring the rock!!!!!!!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 3, 2008 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or at least win a game or two!!
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
by Mr Redbird on Sep 3, 2008 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why did Lopez lay down
to try and catch that ball?
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 3, 2008 5:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
because
he is not a LF’er
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Sep 3, 2008 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know
I must have fallen asleep from listening to Sutton’s depression over the DBacks sucking right now and missed the change.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 3, 2008 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How long has Miles been in this game
what the heck happened?
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 3, 2008 5:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
that is a very good question
I think Phelps must be out of the game
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
by ANDYAK47 on Sep 3, 2008 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
miles to 2nd
lopez to left
Obama/Pujols 2008.
by davethebutcher on Sep 3, 2008 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
double switch
Phelps out, Lopez to LF, Super Mario to 2b.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Sep 3, 2008 5:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
any reason why?
I mean, defensively its a wash.
by Evilfrog on Sep 3, 2008 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
we needed some miles grit
to counteract ecks.
Obama/Pujols 2008.
by davethebutcher on Sep 3, 2008 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess
Stavinoah is Mario after the mushroom.
by mikeonthecards on Sep 3, 2008 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha
and who would he be with flower power?
Obama/Pujols 2008.
by davethebutcher on Sep 3, 2008 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good question.
Maybe Perez if he’s sporting the ’stache.
by mikeonthecards on Sep 3, 2008 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How is Lopez so fast?
He looks a tad ‘overweight’ for his body type yet he’s faster than Izturis.
Who knew!
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 3, 2008 5:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
really?
i thinks its just a trick of the baggy uniform that he looks bigger than he is
by FunkeeC on Sep 3, 2008 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
tattoo's
I hear they add about 10 lbs to your ego.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Sep 3, 2008 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha whats he got?
an overweight murmaid tat?
by FunkeeC on Sep 3, 2008 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha
not sure. he keeps em covered with some long sleeves.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Sep 3, 2008 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's entirely possible
his uniform could be the reason he looks ‘stocky’.
Just, with his speed, I expect him to look more like Izturis than Alex Rodriguez.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 3, 2008 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he has nothing on belliard
I swear I’ve never seen fat man look so light on his feet.
by Evilfrog on Sep 3, 2008 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you've never seen me then
it's time to bring the rock!!!!!!!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 3, 2008 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was just doing some Googling in regards to this question
I know I saw a pick of him not wearing the long undershirt sleeves somewhere and he looked like he was pretty well built.
Anyway, I ran across this…..
http://umpbump.com/press/hot-baseball-wife-jennifer-lopez/
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by Tackle Box on Sep 3, 2008 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Flip has done a good job since being here
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DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
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by Mr Redbird on Sep 3, 2008 5:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
C'mon
BIG INNING!
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Sep 3, 2008 5:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Woooo Lohse!
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DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
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by Mr Redbird on Sep 3, 2008 5:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
that was big, woo woo
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
by ANDYAK47 on Sep 3, 2008 5:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
did they just say Lohse is 3-3?
golly
by Pitchers Hit Eighth on Sep 3, 2008 5:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i hope not
Snice he is 2-2 with a sac bunt.
by Evilfrog on Sep 3, 2008 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and those two hits bring his season total to six
so Wainwright can breathe easy
by random on Sep 3, 2008 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
skip reminding us all why he is a platoon player
by FunkeeC on Sep 3, 2008 5:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
not a good AB
c’mon, Iz2. Don’t suck
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by gocards62 on Sep 3, 2008 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The one time Skip doesn't weakly ground out to the 2nd baseman
It would have been better than what he actually did…would have moved the runner over
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DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
by Mr Redbird on Sep 3, 2008 5:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
At least we got one run
out of that inning
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by gocards62 on Sep 3, 2008 5:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Lohse
has he been ahead of many hitters this game? I just started watching in the 4th, so this is an actual question.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Sep 3, 2008 5:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
OT rant
I just don’t get having minor league players coming off injury do rehab stints at a lower level. Makes no sense to me. After coming back from injury, Rasmus split time between the GCL and FSL. Why not just play him at Memphis? The Redbirds were playing Ryan in RF for chrissakes
by vances law on Sep 3, 2008 5:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe he hasn't earned
being above Florida League?
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 3, 2008 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
With all the injuries to our outfield
I anticipate me being very angry if Colby doesn’t make the team out of Spring Training. I can handle him as a bench player but he needs to be in the bigs. Heck, Longoria was hitting .200 when the Rays called him up from AAA this season for all the complaining about Colby’s season that goes on here. Rasmus is really in about the same prospect class that Longoria was.
by azruavatar on Sep 3, 2008 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Step one
Get as much as we can out of Skip’s peaking value
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DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
by Mr Redbird on Sep 3, 2008 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yup
it's time to bring the rock!!!!!!!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 3, 2008 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that is the Rays though
we all know they are a poorly ran franchise
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by mattyfrommo on Sep 3, 2008 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can we get Lopez out of LF for goodness sake
by azruavatar on Sep 3, 2008 5:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
you want Roy Hobbs in now, AZ?
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by gocards62 on Sep 3, 2008 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
apparently Phelps wasn't cutting it out there
it's time to bring the rock!!!!!!!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 3, 2008 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lohse should be done now
not a bad game.
6 IP 5 Hs 2 BBs and 7Ks.
by Evilfrog on Sep 3, 2008 5:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Great game by him
especially with the tiny strikezone in the bottom half of innings.
I hope the game closes out:
KMac
Motte or Kinney
Perez
Or, we get up 5 runs and it doesn’t matter.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 3, 2008 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wasn't Juan Cruz the Nationals pitcher
that hit a HR while pitching a no-hitter, acted goofy going around the bases and Pujols came up in the 9th and promptly ended the No-No by banging one off the upperdeck?
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 3, 2008 5:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You know
I’m surprised the team hasn’t hired Pujols a “personal heckler.” Pujols is like the hulk…you wouldn’t like him when he’s mad (unless you’re a Cards fan!)
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DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
by Mr Redbird on Sep 3, 2008 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you won't like him
when he’s mangry
- Y.2.2
by Yadi2Second on Sep 3, 2008 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
For some reason I think that was Livan Hernandez
I don’t think Juan has started since he was a cub.
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by Tackle Box on Sep 3, 2008 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ramon Ortiz
was the one I was thinking of.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 3, 2008 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
luddy needs to get hot again
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
by ANDYAK47 on Sep 3, 2008 5:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
GRIT!
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by gocards62 on Sep 3, 2008 5:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yadi needs to continue his hitting streak
Here is a good time to start.
by Evilfrog on Sep 3, 2008 5:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
needs to be patient
and take a strike —ugh!
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by gocards62 on Sep 3, 2008 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK K-mac
I hope the Men in Black showed up on Monday and erased your memory of your performance in that game
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DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
by Mr Redbird on Sep 3, 2008 5:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
OT: grudz shut down for the year
Hope he’s able to come back and play next year. Hard to believe it’s been 3 years since he left.
the ******* plane has crashed into the mountain.
by SleepyCA on Sep 3, 2008 5:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That's a hell of an injury!!!
A torn deltoid in his ANKLE!!!!!!!!!
That’s gotta hurt.
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by Tackle Box on Sep 3, 2008 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Next pitcher, plz
K-mac got some bad vibe going
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by gocards62 on Sep 3, 2008 5:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Saw that coming
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
by Tackle Box on Sep 3, 2008 5:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Duncan ejected?
Nice
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DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
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by Mr Redbird on Sep 3, 2008 5:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
why did Dunc get ejected?
I’ve only got gameday.
defy, cards, defy. hey logic --- you suck.
by effin fisk on Sep 3, 2008 5:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Went out to the mound
and talked to Mac until the ump came out. He then gave him an earful about the strikezone and got asked to leave.
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by Tackle Box on Sep 3, 2008 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cripes
he nearly broke his ankle!
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 3, 2008 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no way, shit
it's time to bring the rock!!!!!!!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 3, 2008 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey STEPHEN DREW
you are supposed to run on the outside of the bag, idiot!
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 3, 2008 5:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Drews boys
Can we just send them to the time-out room?
That looked pretty intentional.
- Y.2.2
by Yadi2Second on Sep 3, 2008 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You think
it was revenge for Upton?
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
by DbacksSkins on Sep 4, 2008 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't presume to know
motives. I only know what I saw. That looked like a stomp to me, on the wrong side of the bag, on a joint that’s extended in the opposite direction. Snap a tendon on any ballplayer, much less Albert? I dunno. Someone else can watch it and call it. I confess to being pretty bad at judging high speed motion.
- Y.2.2
by Yadi2Second on Sep 4, 2008 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was at work during the game,
and missed the replay last night, so I’m honestly curious.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
by DbacksSkins on Sep 4, 2008 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like this kid,,,
But he has run out of gas this year…..Time to start letting someone else pitch the 7th…
by moser34 on Sep 3, 2008 5:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Good thing we've already used up Phelps!
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DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
by Mr Redbird on Sep 3, 2008 5:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pujols fine as of now
wheew. Let’s hope he feels ok on Friday too.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 3, 2008 5:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
wow
ya scared me for a bit there
it's time to bring the rock!!!!!!!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 3, 2008 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Keep pumping the heater on Eck's fists, K-mac
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by gocards62 on Sep 3, 2008 5:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
K-Mac is toast
how does Tony not see this?
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 3, 2008 5:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
did you forget the izzy incidents?
it's time to bring the rock!!!!!!!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 3, 2008 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Motte?
Please no Flores here
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by gocards62 on Sep 3, 2008 5:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
it's time to bring the rock!!!!!!!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 3, 2008 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gross
How about we don’t use K-Mac as a starter next year?
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DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
by Mr Redbird on Sep 3, 2008 5:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Why did Duncan get tossed?
and why did I have to show up when the bullpen is about ready to implode
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by mattyfrommo on Sep 3, 2008 5:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ahh, nevermind
read dummy
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by mattyfrommo on Sep 3, 2008 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Scroll up
You’ll find all the answers you need
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DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
by Mr Redbird on Sep 3, 2008 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I will find a reason for the impending bullpen implosion?
I am glad we have finally figured that one out
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by mattyfrommo on Sep 3, 2008 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
...they suck?
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DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
by Mr Redbird on Sep 3, 2008 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh, we did figure that out months ago
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by mattyfrommo on Sep 3, 2008 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
coach question
Does anyone know why Duncan took his big magic book of pitches? Is he going to keep watch from the clubhouse? Or is there some rule where an ejected coach has to take all his gear with him?
Or is his handwriting that bad?
- Y.2.2
by Yadi2Second on Sep 3, 2008 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great play by Izturis
Miles, not so much.
Good thing Lopez is in LF!
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 3, 2008 5:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
In comes Flo
Or Villone?
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DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
by Mr Redbird on Sep 3, 2008 5:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
PLEASE NO FLO
and not Villain either
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by gocards62 on Sep 3, 2008 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So help me, if we lose this game
I blame Tony for randomly putting Aaron Miles in the game for NO DAMN REASON in the 5th inning!
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 3, 2008 5:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i really do not think anyone could have turned that into two
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
by ANDYAK47 on Sep 3, 2008 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's uncertain whether he did it for no reason yet
Phelps could have pulled something or had an emergency or something like that. I agree, though…if it WAS for no reason, then he should have to answer to SOMEBODY
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DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
by Mr Redbird on Sep 3, 2008 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that is funny
“answer to SOMEBODY”
you crack me up
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by mattyfrommo on Sep 3, 2008 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
evidently
TLR was tired of seeing Phelps “play” LF.
think he’s tired of seeing Lopez in LF yet?
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Sep 3, 2008 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I bLame him more
for letting Mclellan load the bases in the 7th
by Brianzaredbird on Sep 3, 2008 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Come on Uncle Merrill...
Swing away…
"Crud, does that booger-eating spaz make me wanna puke!" - Tanner Boyle
by iron duke75 on Sep 3, 2008 5:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
late to the game..
nice play by Izturis.
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go cards.
by thecoolalonzo on Sep 3, 2008 5:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Villone throws at Dunn's head
3-2 Cardinals.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 3, 2008 5:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
terrible.
"There are three things in my life which I really love: God, my family, and baseball. The only problem - once baseball season starts, I change the order around a bit." ~Al Gallagher, 1971
go cards.
by thecoolalonzo on Sep 3, 2008 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Meatball
How did Dunn miss that?
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by gocards62 on Sep 3, 2008 5:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
it was at his head?
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Sep 3, 2008 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the first pitch, I mean
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by gocards62 on Sep 3, 2008 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh
sorry
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Sep 3, 2008 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
....Villone's
on our payroll, right?
- Y.2.2
by Yadi2Second on Sep 3, 2008 5:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
the Brewers must be paying part of his salary
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by mattyfrommo on Sep 3, 2008 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wtf
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
by ANDYAK47 on Sep 3, 2008 5:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I love me some Cardinal bullpen
ESPN Management (CT): Umm…...what does this have to do with the Red Sox and Yankees?
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by Smokin Turkeys on Sep 3, 2008 5:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
if by love you mean hate
it's time to bring the rock!!!!!!!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 3, 2008 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hawk?
"Crud, does that booger-eating spaz make me wanna puke!" - Tanner Boyle
by iron duke75 on Sep 3, 2008 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If baseball was a 6-inning sport
The 2008 Cardinals would be running away with the best all-time record
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
by Mr Redbird on Sep 3, 2008 6:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
now that would be an interesting (and sad) FanPost
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by mattyfrommo on Sep 3, 2008 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Would anyone expect anything else?
@ this point its hilarious
by buzzburton33 on Sep 3, 2008 6:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i find no humor
in what trots in from our bullpen.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Sep 3, 2008 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A full bullpen
and we keep using the same 5 relievers every night?
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 3, 2008 6:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
does that mean Carp is playing today?
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go cards.
by thecoolalonzo on Sep 3, 2008 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe tony’s way of showing that he has little to work with?
by NorseKaiser on Sep 3, 2008 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If it's broke
Fix it next year
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DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
by Mr Redbird on Sep 3, 2008 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I fully expect
to see Ryan Franklin next inning.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 3, 2008 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
it's time to bring the rock!!!!!!!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 3, 2008 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Sep 3, 2008 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I expect Jimenez in the game before Motte
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by mattyfrommo on Sep 3, 2008 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
and we use all the bad relievers.
it's time to bring the rock!!!!!!!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 3, 2008 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who --besides Tony--wouldn't like to see Motte v. Dunn here
I mean, let’s see what the kid has
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by gocards62 on Sep 3, 2008 6:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't
Villone was the right choice
by azruavatar on Sep 3, 2008 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so he could throw at his head
heh
it's time to bring the rock!!!!!!!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 3, 2008 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I sure wouldn't
Welcome to the bigs, kid! Now go throw that fastball past Adam Dunn. Oh by the way, he’s the go-ahead run!
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
by Mr Redbird on Sep 3, 2008 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Starting pitchers for the Cardinals
must cringe every time they come out of the game, figuring the bullpen will screw up all the good things they did the first 5-6 innings. Maybe TLR (and the rest of baseball) ought to forget about the fucking pitch counts when their guys are throwing shutouts.
by ccthemovieman on Sep 3, 2008 6:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ESPN talking about Pedroia for AL MVP
Gross
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by Mr Redbird on Sep 3, 2008 6:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
5th in VORP in AL at the start of the day.
Sizemore, A-Rod, Huff, Bradley ahead of him.
I know VORP isn’t everything, but I was expecting him to be a lot lower.
by notmorganfreeman on Sep 3, 2008 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is surprising
I don’t follow the AL closely enough to really have an idea, but based on my fantasy team, I don’t see how you don’t give it to Josh Hamilton
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DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
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by Mr Redbird on Sep 3, 2008 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pedroia was interviewed today on ESPN
and was asked about MVP and he said he’d vote for Hamilton. Pedroia, by the way, has made a lot of great plays on defense, too. He’s had a helluva year overall and seems to have a good attitude. Same with Hamilton – both good guys.
by ccthemovieman on Sep 3, 2008 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It turns out VORP undervalues OBP as much as OPS does
Tango did a blog post on it I can find it if someone likes but it’s not very accurate. Ironically they already have an accurate linear weights version of VORP that for some reason they don’t use more frequently in RARP which is based off of EQA.
Kosuke Fukudome: $55 million .265 .365 .386
Skip Schumaker: $Free .307 .366 .421
by joker24 on Sep 3, 2008 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's 28th in the league by gross production average GPA
which is a weighted version of OPS invented by tango.
GPA = (OBP*1.8+SLG)/4
the ******* plane has crashed into the mountain.
by SleepyCA on Sep 3, 2008 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's 13th by RARP
Kosuke Fukudome: $55 million .265 .365 .386
Skip Schumaker: $Free .307 .366 .421
by joker24 on Sep 3, 2008 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so yeah
unless he’s been ozzie at 2B, he shouldn’t be talked about as an MVP candidate.
the ******* plane has crashed into the mountain.
by SleepyCA on Sep 3, 2008 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh but he plays in Boston
That’s like +20 runs at least.
Kosuke Fukudome: $55 million .265 .365 .386
Skip Schumaker: $Free .307 .366 .421
by joker24 on Sep 3, 2008 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ugh....
ESPN Management (CT): Umm…...what does this have to do with the Red Sox and Yankees?
SportsNation Jerry Crasnick: Management, Let’s take a break with the sarcasm, OK?
by Smokin Turkeys on Sep 3, 2008 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
was that the viewer vote on who should win, where pedroia ran away with it? the announcer sounded (acting, of course) surprised
by NorseKaiser on Sep 3, 2008 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
a red sox won an espn poll?
no way!
ESPN Management (CT): Umm…...what does this have to do with the Red Sox and Yankees?
SportsNation Jerry Crasnick: Management, Let’s take a break with the sarcasm, OK?
by Smokin Turkeys on Sep 3, 2008 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gosh
My world no longer makes sense…
"Crud, does that booger-eating spaz make me wanna puke!" - Tanner Boyle
by iron duke75 on Sep 3, 2008 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and delgado for the NL
lol.
the ******* plane has crashed into the mountain.
by SleepyCA on Sep 3, 2008 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just walk Dunn already Ron
he’s seen what you’ve got, you ain’t foolin’ him.
Base is open, let’s move to the next guy.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 3, 2008 6:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
and put someone else in
Proud sponsor of the Official 2008 StL Cardinal theme song: "Beautiful Day" by U2
by gocards62 on Sep 3, 2008 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
here's an idea
TLR takes away all hunting privileges until the bullpen turns it around.
- Y.2.2
by Yadi2Second on Sep 3, 2008 6:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Expected pitch selection for Motte: fastball, fastball, fastball, fastball, fastball, fastball, fastball, fastball, fastball
by azruavatar on Sep 3, 2008 6:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Eephus
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
by Mr Redbird on Sep 3, 2008 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I fooly expect a badass second pitch
just gonna believe the whole “One Pitch Guy” thing was just a cover
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Sep 3, 2008 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
fully
but hell, fooly might work too
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Sep 3, 2008 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
how hard does the boy throw?
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
by ANDYAK47 on Sep 3, 2008 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
talk about an introduction to the big leagues
and he succeeds. Sweet.
the ******* plane has crashed into the mountain.
by SleepyCA on Sep 3, 2008 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's leaving Villone in, isn't he
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
by Mr Redbird on Sep 3, 2008 6:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No
someone is coming in, I missed who it was.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 3, 2008 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
they went to commercial after TLR picked up the phone
"There are three things in my life which I really love: God, my family, and baseball. The only problem - once baseball season starts, I change the order around a bit." ~Al Gallagher, 1971
go cards.
by thecoolalonzo on Sep 3, 2008 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
