Post Season Awards
The 2008 regular season is, at this time, not yet over. In fact, it's not really that close to being over. However, given that our beloved Birds on Bat seem to be pretty much toast at this point, I've begun to put some thought into the award winners in the two leagues, and for the sake of brevity I'll just bang out my list for the NL today. Obviously this is not a Cardinals specific topic, but I think we can all agree we're fans of the game first (or at least second), and therefore have at least a morbid fascination with who wins these awards. Without any further ado, here is what I've come up with. Feel free to ponder my idiocity in these particular picks, and I do not mind if you feel my picks are, for lack of a better term, dumb. I don't mind! Oh, and PS...I included a who will win and who should win category for each, as they are often not the same (see MVP race, 2007, Senior Circuit...)
MVP: Albert Pujols (should win), Ryan Braun (will win)
As has been said on here a time or two-dozen, Albert Pujols is, hands down, the best player in the National League, and probably all of baseball too. His numbers this season are, once again, staggering. He leads the league in OBP and OPS, and is quite far ahead of the next guy in the latter category. He also has 30 home runs, again, and plays a sterling first base. However, the guy, despite being considered great by all, is still underrated by the mainstream media (ahem, ESPN, ahem) and does not receive nearly the pub he deserves.
So...given that Pujols is guaranteed to be overlooked, I have to go with my gut and say that Ryan Braun will grab this honor this year. Despite posting a pretty low OBP (.344), the guy has a respectable OPS and has more home runs than anyone not left-handed and gargantuan. Furthermore, writers don't seem to care much about OBP, seeing as how Rollins won last year with an OBP identical to Braun's. If you take that out, his line is pretty impressive, and his team is going to be in the playoffs, which adds that almighty playoff team thing. So, my gut says Braun is going to steal another award this season. Chase Utley or David Wright could probably enter into the discussion as well (and would probably make better candidates if you used the redbirdnation8206 criteria) depending on which team makes the playoffs, which, once again, writers get giddy over. C.C. could probably get some votes as well, but pitchers should not win the MVP except in specific circumstances...at least in my book.
Cy Young Award: Tim Lincecum (should), Brandon Webb (will)
Lincecum is the best pitcher in the NL who has been there the whole season (C.C., I'm looking at you sir). He's number one in ERA (and FIP, in case you're curious) and ERA+, he's number one in K/9, number one in total K's (and by a lot too), and has allowed the fewest HR/G of anyone in the NL. If you think wins are important, which I don't, Lincecum would probably have several more if he played on a non-awful team. I think in his chat today on this very subject Jayson Start said he had like 5 blown saves behind him or something like that, plus several starts with almost zilch run support. Simply put, Lincecum has pitched better than anyone in the NL this year in my book. He's my choice.
Webb, on the other hand, has the most wins. Is that stupid? Um, duh. But that's just the way the cookie crumbles on that one. The rest of his line is pretty decent, really. His K/9 is pretty far down the list at 7.8, but the guy is a sinkerballer so he can dominate a game without punching out a ton of folks. He's third in FIP, ahead of guys with lower ERAs (i.e. Santana, Haren). His K/BB is a very respectable 3.14, which is rather far down the list but good nonetheless. Did I mention he's leading the league in wins? The stupidity of that "logic" is fodder for another day, but writers still cling to it like some sacred object of a bygone era. It's a measure of your manliness, or clutchitude, or your will to dominate, or something like that. Plus, it's what you play the game to do, to win, and starting pitchers have ultimate control over that, right? Anyway, snark aside, Webb has been very good this season and will probably be rewarded with a second Cy Young.
Now, this topic is not complete until a certain gigantic left-hander is brought into the discussion. C.C. has been utterly lights-out since become a Beermaker. As one AL scout said, putting him in the NL midseason is simply unfair. The man has the NL lead in shutouts in all of 11 games, and probably should have a no-hitter as well. He has a microscopic 1.43 ERA, and has K'ed batsmen at a rate of 9.6/game. He also hardly ever walks anybody. I think if he has an unbelievable September he very well may win this thing. However, I'm not sure that's right given the presence of other viable candidates that a guy who has been with the team about half the season should win this thing. That's just how I feel. And, in some ways, Lincecum has STILL outpitched him. His FIP is STILL lower than C.C.'s, and he has a higher K/G. This should be a very interesting issue once it is all said and done. It's a shame they can't give C.C. something, b/c his arrival utterly changed the landscape of the NL Central, and probably of the whole NL too. I mean, Sabathia, Sheets, Parra, Suppan is a pretty solid crew to run out there in a short series, don't you think?
Rookie of the Year: Geovany Soto (both)
Despite being a Cub, and therefore scum of the Earth and worse at life then a cockroach (HYPERBOLE ALERT...and I suppose cockroaches are good at life, I mean they don't die easily...hmmm...), Soto is a beast with a bat in his hands. This is one that isn't up for debate at all. The only other guy with a case is Joey Votto, and Soto is a catcher who has him lapped in pretty much everything. 31 doubles, 21 home runs, an OPS of .890, and a decent catcher to boot. I mean, he hasn't gotten in a fight with Big Z, so that counts for something, right? He's a HUGE part of the Flubs' success this season. I feel only slightly queezy about giving him this award.
I suppose I could go ahead and bang out the Manager of the Year, Exec of the Year, and the Gold Glovers, but really those awards are somewhat uninteresting to me. I couldn't even tell you the last five Managers and Execs, and the Gold Glove is a joke and is time-consuming to predict anyway. So, I will leave the good folks of VEB with just this. I feel like I've given a pretty good rundown of my opinions on this issue, and have used some respectable logic as well, but if not feel free to say whatever you like. I may do an AL version if there is decent feedback, but of course, if no one gives a particular crap, then this is all I'll do. It's whatever, as my kids say to me.
Enjoy!
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I think Albert will win the MVP
when Howard stole the award in 2006, you could kind of see it happening as the media kept fawning over his HRs. This year, I have heard plenty of props given to the season Albert is having, and nearly all are calling him the MVP.
Even most of ESPN’s analysts are giving it up for Albert. In a year where no one is lapping the field by hitting 55+ bombs, Albert’s consistent greatness shines through. He will get it this year.
"I believe he’s been reincarnated, that he played before, in the twenties and thirties, and he’s back to prove something." - Former teammate Mark McGwire about Albert Pujols
I hope so...
Albert is so good even I forget it sometimes. The guy has no weaknesses at all. None. I really hope he pulls one out this year, b/c he’s the best choice. I just worry that the whole “not in the playoffs” argument will win out. I hate that argument, b/c the best player is, um, duh, the most valuable as well…at least in my book.
"Your Holiness, I'm Joseph Medwick. I, too, used to be a Cardinal."-Joe Medwick, to Pope Pius XII.
by redbirdnation8206 on Sep 3, 2008 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't believe in the
argument that it needs to come from a playoff team because that’s NOT what has happened. I covered this a few weeks ago.
Indeed
even when Howard beat Albert the Cardinals were in the playoffs and the Phils were not. A-Rod has even brought home the AL award from a last place Rangers team, I believe.
"I believe he’s been reincarnated, that he played before, in the twenties and thirties, and he’s back to prove something." - Former teammate Mark McGwire about Albert Pujols
True on Howard..
…But then again his team was better than at least 2 of the playoff teams. The Cards and the Padres weren’t too great that season, to be honest.
"Your Holiness, I'm Joseph Medwick. I, too, used to be a Cardinal."-Joe Medwick, to Pope Pius XII.
by redbirdnation8206 on Sep 3, 2008 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions
It's almost a certainty...
that the Cards will finish better than the west winner (probably AZ) and could finish ahead of the East winner (probably NY).
thank you!
i’ve always thought that the term “valuable” is twisted so much to support people’s various biases in mvp voting. who is the best player this year? wouldn’t that guy be the most “valuable” no matter what his context? furthermore, the writers are so inconsistent and varied as to their particular definition of “value”. every year you see clashing or outright contradicting arguments brought forth by various writers, all voting on the same award. blah. that said, i agree with those above, albert actually might win it this year.
Aww, man.
I was holding out for:
Ludwick MVP
Lohse CYA
McClellan RoY
OK, just kidding. Not a bad job throwing that all together.
More of a case of Albert
The voters over the years have liked how well the player in question finishes down the stretch.
Here are Albert’s numbers since the Cardinals went to Cincinnati on August 15th:
68 plate appearances
57 at bats
28 hits
8 doubles
6 homers
10 walks
1 hbp
4 Ks
.491 avg
.573 obp
.947 slg
1.520 OPS
Yep. Down the stretch, trying to catch up to the top two teams in the league, who happen to both be in the same division…trying to make the playoffs…Albert Pujols has a 1.520 OPS.
Pretty impressive
I hope that voters actually look at stuff like this this time around and don’t just “mail it in” so to speak. Like I said above, Albert is the best player in the league and is having the best season on a team that is probably the 3rd or 4th best team in the league. It’s not his fault the Cubs and Brewers are damn good.
"Your Holiness, I'm Joseph Medwick. I, too, used to be a Cardinal."-Joe Medwick, to Pope Pius XII.
by redbirdnation8206 on Sep 3, 2008 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions
I did think of him...
…But he hasn’t been the same pitcher since June 26th as he was before. At that point, the dude was in the lead in the Cy Young race. His ERA has jumped from 2.04 to 3.08. His second half ERA is nearly 5.00, w/ a drastic drop in K rate. What he’s done this season is quite impressive, but my pick is still Soto.
"Your Holiness, I'm Joseph Medwick. I, too, used to be a Cardinal."-Joe Medwick, to Pope Pius XII.
by redbirdnation8206 on Sep 3, 2008 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Eligibility?
I may be wrong, but I don’t think Volquez is eligible for the ROY award this year. He appeared in 20 games and had close to 90 IP in the majors before the start of the 2008 season.
GG
I am not sold on Yadi as the GG this year but I think he will win it finally. (I haven’t looked at stats for him but he seems to be letting more passed balls and wild pitches by then ever before).
I think the Cards have 3 real GG candidates and 5 possible.
Glaus, Pujols and Molina most likely will win and Izturis and Ankiel are possible but probably won’t.
Izturis and GG
Izturis is one of the most smooth-looking defensive shortstops I have seen since Vizquel and Ozzie’s primes. That being said, should a guy win a gold glove if he cannot catch throws from Yadi at second base? I swear he’s cost Yadi 5 steals or so because of dropped throws on steals.
sigh
Gotta agree with that.
Iz2 didn’t handle the catch-and-tag well at the beginning, but he does seem to be improving in that area.
passed balls and wild pitches
seems like those things dont matter anyway. I mean, look who won the GG last year, then look at his stats.
/end sarcasm
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Sep 3, 2008 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
on a related note
I doubt Glaus wins a Gold Glove this year – it’ll be the really undeserving David Wright.
the argument was
yadi was too good; he threw out so high of a percentage that players didn’t really try to steal. Russell martin wasn’t as good, so more players tried to steal, so he got more outs for his team with his “glove”.
Now Martin is such a great catcher that the dodgers are considering making a 3rd baseman out of him, lol.
the ******* plane has crashed into the mountain.
can't argue with the selections here
i think the closest competition to berto here is lance berkman, honestly. of course, berkman will get shut out for the same reason albert will get screwed — his team is not in the race.
you also can’t ignore the power of the hr. if albert was pushing 40 bombs, i’d call him a more likely mvp candidate. it stinks that the BA and slug avg champ doesn’t get real consideration. the two weeks albert missed are hurting him too, in his hr and rbi numbers.
i really think it would be dishonest to pick anyone but linececum. the Cc talk is bugging me, b/c the guy has had a really good half season. but his first half (yes, in the AL) stunk. lots of guys turn in a good half a season — if we gave out an mvp award for the first half, then chipper jones would have it in the bag. it’s hard to sustain great performance over a whole season.
chris dial wrote a article for BTF
that came to this same conclusion. Pujols and Berkman were #1 and #2 when their offense + defense contributions were added together, but berkman wasn’t even close to albert.
Pujols 70.1 to Berkman’s 54.2 and Hanley’s 51.2…
the ******* plane has crashed into the mountain.
So basically
Albert=a total badass
"Your Holiness, I'm Joseph Medwick. I, too, used to be a Cardinal."-Joe Medwick, to Pope Pius XII.
by redbirdnation8206 on Sep 5, 2008 1:46 AM EDT up reply actions
like, 2.5 David Wright's worth of badass
He’s got my vote…
Brian Giles is having a heck of a year, though. He’s been roughly as valuable as luddy- who would have thought? Though dial has luddy as a negative defensive corner OF, which is a bit odd.
the ******* plane has crashed into the mountain.
To try to put albert pujols in perspective, consider this:
These are the ML leading OPS for the last five years.
2007 — A Rod: 1.067
2006 — Pujols 1.102
2005 — D. Lee 1.080
2004 — Barry Bonds 1.422
2003 – Barry bonds 1.278
Right now, Albert has an ops of 1.108. If Albert finishes at this level, he will have finished with an OPS over 1.100 three times in six years (he finished second in 2003 w/ 1.106). No one, except the chemically enhanced Mr. Bonds, has put up an OPS of 1.100 ONCE in those years. Albert is doing it every other year. He has only once missed the 1.000 mark in in OPS (2007, with .997).
Lincecum should win the cy,
because his win% so far outpaces his horrible team that it’s unbelievable. However I just read a decent article that throws out a name I hadn’t heard yet.
http://www.nysun.com/sports/in-a-perfect-world-lincecum-would-win-cy-young/85088/
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