Game 162 Open Thread -- September 28, 2008
by chuckb on Sep 28, 2008 2:00 PM EDT
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The more I think about Carp's injury and the organization's statements about "being aggressive" this offseason, the more I think it's likely Lohse will be back next year. He's had his best season this year, though he's slumped of late, and when I previously protested his being signed it was with the belief that Carp would be able to pitch next year. Since I'm not counting on Carp to give us much next year, signing a free agent pitcher seems to be more of a necessity. I'm still not sure Lohse is the right guy -- he turns 30 in December and will likely receive at least 3 years and $30 M -- I'm more open to it than I was two months ago.
Pettyjohn is a lefty who'll be making his first start this year and, in fact, his first since 2001 w/ the Tigers. He hasn't pitched in the big leagues in 7 years. He's bounced around the minors and, ostensibly, hasn't had to go get a real job yet b/c he's lefthanded and has pretty good control. He doesn't strike many out, but he doesn't walk many either. Let's see: a lefty we've never seen and don't have much of a scouting report on who doesn't walk many...I smell trouble.
To hell w/ that. It's game 162. We're at home. Hell, yes, we're going to win. Hope to see lots of traffic here. What the hell else are you going to do ... watch the Rams? Sorry. Cheap shot. Go Cards!
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First post...
a first for me!
"Fortune favors the bold!" - Virgil
by player2bnamedl8r on Sep 28, 2008 2:06 PM EDT reply actions
Go Cards
Lets finish off 2008 with a bang!
Milt Thompson FTW!
Lohse Extension
It’s being reported over at STLtoday that Lohse is about to sign an extension for 3 years/$28 million with an option for a 4th year at 12.5 million.
I think I like it. I thought he would have gotten more than that.
sounds like a sweet deal
we need a stable #3
go rays
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 28, 2008 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Lohse trade?
looks like Lohse has been scratched pending physicals today – John Rooney on the broadcast offered up a “deal” possibly in the works as an explanation.
Baseball Fever.... Catch it!
and Mo* is saying it is a 4 yr 1B contract
gotta love the humor of that commenter
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
i would have expected
MO to have a better grasp of the English language. Poorly educated?
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
Brad Thompson is starting now
huh
go rays
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 28, 2008 2:14 PM EDT reply actions
Uggla line drives into Perez's hand
Or vice versa. 2nd inning.
- Y.2.2
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
thompson not looking good
just accidentally threw behind votto…
"All I am saying is give Freese a chance!" -- nmstar
We don't call them accidents
they are incidents. Accidents imply no one is to blame.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 28, 2008 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Thudwick will not be denied
- Y.2.2
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Ludwick tied with Albert now
thanks to Albert just missing one.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 28, 2008 2:30 PM EDT reply actions
I was a day early on my Luddy comment
yesterday it seems
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
Luddy!
Bet Albert doesn’t let him stay tied for very long…
Ryan Howard: one of the most Statistically Outstanding players of all time
luddites rejoice
for the 37th time!!
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
well i'm here
i don’t know how long i’ll be around but i’m here for a second to say goodbye to the ’08 season.
STUDWICK!
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2008 2:31 PM EDT reply actions
thought troy got all of that one
probably hit it farther than luddy did, just the wrong direction.
"All I am saying is give Freese a chance!" -- nmstar
Please remove the political statement
from your signature.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 28, 2008 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Or at least reverse it...
Ryan Howard: one of the most Statistically Outstanding players of all time
by RunninRedbird on Sep 28, 2008 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
haha
i think i’d rather see him reverse it.
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2008 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
"No political discussions: there are other blogs where you can discuss politics."
I’m not trying to start a political discussion, I’m stating a humorous statement that happens to be slightly political. I see no difference with that than a political quote or something like that. I’ve had this sig for months with no problems. I would reverse it but I think Pujols has a better chance of getting in (being foreign born) as VP =)
Obama/Pujols 2008.
by davethebutcher on Sep 28, 2008 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Alright
I just think it is different.
If no one else has a problem with it, leave it. I never noticed it until today.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 28, 2008 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
he’s had that sig for a while, I think it came about in a game thread in May or something like that
go rays
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 28, 2008 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, i tested it in a comment before i put it as my sig
was concerned about mixing baseball/politics.
And now that I think about it, this will be the last game I can use it as a sig. So I will retire it soon.
Obama/Pujols 2008.
by davethebutcher on Sep 28, 2008 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
its not like it says something stupid like go Cubs or something ;-)
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by jealousblues on Sep 28, 2008 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
i like the
“we are gonna have some exciting news tomorrow”, without confirming the deal
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
i know
you might as well just spill the beans.
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2008 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
mo was funny though
he’s like the little kid who knows what mom is getting for christmas.
"All I am saying is give Freese a chance!" -- nmstar
And about 2 mil in possible incentives
Kosuke Fukudome: $48 million .259 .360 .378
Skip Schumaker: $Free .305 .361 .414
Skippy needs a new publicist
Mo sez: “we are going to six flags! exciting”
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by jealousblues on Sep 28, 2008 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
what's this?
Cubs strike first, thanks in part to error by Prince? (Fie on so many games + so many distractions.)
- Y.2.2
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
ksdk
Which is telling us to pat ourselves on the back. Because we’re awesome fans.
- Y.2.2
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
he won't play baseball again.
he’s technically a free agent after this year, so his contract is coming off the books.
thank god
that’s 6.5 mil the cards will never get back again.
sad story, bad ending. juan should have retired.
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2008 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
well it was in his contract
they had to legally pay it to him unless he retired, which he didn’t do.
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2008 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Can't say I blame him
He may never regain enough eyesight to even drive. This is his last contract – no chance to sign another. He should give up 6.5 million for the good of the Cardinals?
he should have been traded to the mets
so that Luddy could play every day. Then he wouldn’t be hurt.
"All I am saying is give Freese a chance!" -- nmstar
all knotted at 37
cmon APu, you can still get to 40 homers/.360
go rays
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 28, 2008 2:41 PM EDT reply actions
i forgot andujar was #47
Has anyone else had that number since, besides luddy?
"All I am saying is give Freese a chance!" -- nmstar
floppy, floppy, floppy
way to suck management in
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
ten run sundays!
i honestly wouldn’t mind seeing floppy on the team next year.
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 28, 2008 2:49 PM EDT reply actions
depends on whether
we are looking at the real floppy or just the pseudo-floppy who wiping out his accumulated performance deficit for the year. i’m afraid it is the latter.
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
Iz2 or Floppy?
If we have to resign one of them, who would you rather have back? Both are finishing their seasons well, but I wouldn’t put stock in in carrying over to next season.
Ryan Howard: one of the most Statistically Outstanding players of all time
experiencing a nagging urge
to combine them into one player.
- Y.2.2
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
i think the issue is
we sign floppy to play second, still have ak’s salary on the books, and we can’t get a real ss, so have to resign iz2 or hand it to ryan (haha)
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
plus
he has a HOT wife
Floppy
As annoying as his defensive mistakes are, his bat is so much better than Iz2 that I can deal with it
He's got a HOT wife
go ahead – google it
or
http://sports.rightpundits.com/?p=536
"go ahead -- google it"
doesn’t quite work here. Except for the hot part.
- Y.2.2
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Dude, Dusty Baker sucks
Did he really intentionally walk Pujols in a fucking meaningless game where Albert is vying for the MVP? What a jackass.
by cloistermaximus on Sep 28, 2008 2:52 PM EDT reply actions
Especially after George Grande and Chris Welch
on Fox Ohio reported that Tony went to Dusty before the game and asked if it was okay to take Albert out at some point during the game for an ovation, to be replaced by Yadi.
Nice sportsmanship, Dusty. Thanks.
"Fortune favors the bold!" - Virgil
by player2bnamedl8r on Sep 28, 2008 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
wow that is super lame
- Y.2.2
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Is that stadium really as half empty as it looked going to the commercial break?
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
thompson in relief of loshe
3 innings, one run (3.0 era). too bad it didn’t work out like that all year.
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
ill do both
the Rams dont start till like ;-)
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Dont take me seriously :-D
So where do the Cards stand
in the team batting avg. chase? Do they still have a chance to break the record, or did they miss out and I just didn’t hear about it?
Ryan Howard: one of the most Statistically Outstanding players of all time
Is everyone else aware that Jason LaRue
doesn’t like Jerry Hairston because he doesn’t like ‘the way he plays the game’?
He wants to punch Hairston but apparently other Cardinals told him not to. That’s what the FSN Ohio guys are saying.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 28, 2008 3:04 PM EDT reply actions
And then LaRue gets drilled
this is going to get ugly real quick.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 28, 2008 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
HOw does Hairston "play the game?"
Besides poorly, ofcourse
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by jealousblues on Sep 28, 2008 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
santa delivers
on the last day
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Dont take me seriously :-D
TROY!!!
Just one more rbi to the century mark!
Ryan Howard: one of the most Statistically Outstanding players of all time
Glaus should be 2 for 2
2 HRs. Darn Bud Light sign!
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 28, 2008 3:04 PM EDT reply actions
Give it time
he’s going to beat the hell out of Hairston if it is the last thing he does.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 28, 2008 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Atleast, I hope
cause I personally have wanted to do it for the same reasons as Jason for years.
That guy just ain’t right.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 28, 2008 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Better get Villone up in the pen, just in case.
Only bullpen pitcher that warms up with a punching bag.
Obama/Pujols 2008.
by davethebutcher on Sep 28, 2008 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Screw that
Motte + 101 mph + Hairston’s ribs = A Good Sunday
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 28, 2008 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Motte can be the Cardinals' DJ King
Except with talent.
Kosuke Fukudome: $48 million .259 .360 .378
Skip Schumaker: $Free .305 .361 .414
Skippy needs a new publicist
scoreboarding
Top 5th Houston leads by 2 (nooooo keep the dream alive! 3rd 3rd 3rd)
Mid 3rd Twinkies have 1 up on the Royals
Top 4th 3-1 ChiSox (c’mon Cleveland)
4th Cubs still have that 1 on the Crew, starting to shuffle through pitchers
And so far only the drizzle is winning in New York.
- Y.2.2
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
hit post too fast
Braves cut lead by 1 in the Juicebox.
- Y.2.2
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Now now
we want the Twins and ChiSox to do the same thing, no matter what it is. Then Chicago plays tomorrow and then we get 1 game playoff (hopefully!)
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 28, 2008 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
or if CHW wins and MIN loses
then the White Sox would have to play tomorrow and could clinch it with a win.
KC coming in with a half-game lead
in their quest for Not-Last. They’re hungry.
- Y.2.2
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
me to, but i do
appreciate his choice of pitchers today
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
why was crab man held up at third?
he’s speedy… why be conservative?
When cheese gets its picture taken, what does it say?
by RosevilleRedbird on Sep 28, 2008 3:17 PM EDT reply actions
Sweet Lord
Felipe Lopez, do you not remember who you are?
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 28, 2008 3:17 PM EDT reply actions
NOOOOOOOOOOOO
Don’t take Albert from us!
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 28, 2008 3:19 PM EDT reply actions
the picture of thompson throwing a pitch on stlcardinals.com is priceless
he looks like sloth from the goonies
heh
Goonies was just on this morning on TBS
go rays
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 28, 2008 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL
I thought the same thing!
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by RunninRedbird on Sep 28, 2008 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
hey you guys
www.GriffinandtheGargoyles.com
www.myspace.com/GriffinandtheGargoyles
Dont take me seriously :-D
by jealousblues on Sep 28, 2008 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
the second coming of floppy on the last sunday of the year
were it not just a mirage because he probably has an 09 contract in his pocket now
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
ahhhh.... i missed 10 run sunday!
glad it’s back… too bad it’s the last game of the season
When cheese gets its picture taken, what does it say?
by RosevilleRedbird on Sep 28, 2008 3:19 PM EDT reply actions
get on your feet for Albert
- Y.2.2
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
yeah
how can you pull albert when he is tied with Luddy for HR’s?
"All I am saying is give Freese a chance!" -- nmstar
Yeah
That’s too bad.
Obama/Pujols 2008.
by davethebutcher on Sep 28, 2008 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
It was planned...
but maybe Tony could’ve waited a little longer…would’ve been nice to see another run scored…especially after that…
"Fortune favors the bold!" - Virgil
by player2bnamedl8r on Sep 28, 2008 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
albert will be mad
if ludwick hits a homerun and he won’t have the chance
go rays
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 28, 2008 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Albert won't care
That’s what makes him the best player in baseball.
"Fortune favors the bold!" - Virgil
by player2bnamedl8r on Sep 28, 2008 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
not really, although I’m sure they’ll be some joking around about it
go rays
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 28, 2008 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
If anything
He’ll be the first in the dugout to congratulate Luddy if he hits no. 38
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by RunninRedbird on Sep 28, 2008 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
i thought he did it there
wouldn’t that have been awesome…
"All I am saying is give Freese a chance!" -- nmstar
How lucky were we?
2000 – Jim Edmonds
2001 – Albert Pujols
2002 – Scott Rolen
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 28, 2008 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
now you are making me sad... i miss those guys....
When cheese gets its picture taken, what does it say?
by RosevilleRedbird on Sep 28, 2008 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Damn
How many two out runs is this now?
Ryan Howard: one of the most Statistically Outstanding players of all time
fish and bears
Same score for Mets and Brewers. Both losing 1-0.
- Y.2.2
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Both trying to give it away.
Space.
It's a problem we face.
So we never go anywhere.
We just stay in one place.
hose and twinks
Both winning by 2.
- Y.2.2
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
they did pull Luddy
No curtain call for the Thud?
- Y.2.2
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
wow
now Ludwick can pass Pujols in both homeruns and rbis
go rays
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 28, 2008 3:23 PM EDT reply actions
so if he doesnt lead his team in RBIs and HRs...you think that hurts his MVP chances
that would suck
It shouldn't
it just shows that he gets on base often enough for Ludwick to drive him in.
Ryan Howard: one of the most Statistically Outstanding players of all time
by RunninRedbird on Sep 28, 2008 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
they should pull lud, or his arb price will go up if he hits those milestones
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
Mets trail
1-0
Marlins looking to add to the lead, 2nd and 3rd 1 out
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
walked a run. 2-0
- Y.2.2
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
pulling Pujols and Ludwick
is very anticlimatic
go rays
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 28, 2008 3:27 PM EDT reply actions
Quick, bring 'em back in!
Obama/Pujols 2008.
by davethebutcher on Sep 28, 2008 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
can only kick puppies for 3 innings
it appears
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
anyone think that Schu will be someone's starting CF next year?
some team has to have a need for an inexpensive center fielder that bats over .300
go rays
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 28, 2008 3:28 PM EDT reply actions
with ~no
xb capability or ability to hit lhp
unless he can do something about the lhp issue, he is only a platoon player, which means he is likely back with cards, maybe platooning with barton as our lead off hitters
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
I don't think that framework is outrageous as it sounds
The NY Press has really turned on Cano big time and the guy did have a brutal year in a LH-hitter’s park…
Kosuke Fukudome: $48 million .259 .360 .378
Skip Schumaker: $Free .305 .361 .414
Skippy needs a new publicist
yea i was talking from our standpoint
skip offers more value than cano because of their contract situation
yes
how about the white sox
however, skip may not be as “cheap” as we think, is there any possibility skip could be a super2?
I think his year’s of service is around 2.5…..don’t know what the 17% cut off will be, but he nay be close
he'll only be 1-2M the first time in Arb anyway
"All I am saying is give Freese a chance!" -- nmstar
prediction
LaRue rips someone’s head off. Molina subbed in.
(Ok, only half of that is likely.)
- Y.2.2
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Oh boy
Senior baseball writer Joe Strauss has learned that the expected value of the contract is akin to the deal signed by Carlos Silva last offseason. Silva received a four-year, $48-million deal from Seattle. Sources have confirmed that the average annual value is worth better than $10 million.
Kosuke Fukudome: $48 million .259 .360 .378
Skip Schumaker: $Free .305 .361 .414
Skippy needs a new publicist
oh boy is right.
Thought you were better than that, mo.
"All I am saying is give Freese a chance!" -- nmstar
sad in more ways than one
but true
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crapmonkeys
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by jealousblues on Sep 28, 2008 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Got to love our over reacting front office.
At least its not a trade of propects for a average starter.
well, sort of
We lose at least one and possibly two 1st round compensation draft picks if we resign Lohse. The compensation system with generation of additional sandwich picks for FA’s strongly favors letting someone like Lohse go and replacing him with a different FA of equal ability (preferably a type B).
sorry hardcore
HR ties Mets
- Y.2.2
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
i am unable to fathom why the hell kelvin "spanish for suck"
is pitching… does he have pictures of tlr kicking a puppy??
When cheese gets its picture taken, what does it say?
by RosevilleRedbird on Sep 28, 2008 3:56 PM EDT reply actions
He gets on top of the ball, throws down on it, has a sinke.
He is a pitcher dammit, results be dammed.
Ludwick getting pulled
I’ve been thinking about it for a few innings and am getting more and more irritated. Even if Tony didn’t want to give him one more AB to try to reach .300 or pass Pujols in HR, would it have been too much to ask to pull him in such a way as to let the crowd give him an ovation?
Chavez makes a great catch
to end a Marlins threat and Brewers have the bases juiced w/ 1 out in the 7th — Corey Hart up. Man he’s ugly!
he's had a rough year
last time i looked, schumaker was out-OPSing him. I figured he’d be in the high .800s, low .900s this year.
"All I am saying is give Freese a chance!" -- nmstar
Lohse
So 4.5 + 48 = 52.5. Divided by 5 they get him at slightly over 10 million a year for 5 years. Seems market to me. Plus he’s had a year with Duncan so no angst on how he will get along with Duncan. Seems smart.
That is correct
I think we should be happy we’ve filled a big hole. Now I would shoot the wad on CC.
if this is true
then the wad has been shot, on a guy with a 4.76 career ERA. Unless dewitt has another wad he’s holding back.
"All I am saying is give Freese a chance!" -- nmstar
I doubt the wad has been shot
at most it is a 8M increase for Lohse next year, they should still have 2OM+ after raises if the 25-30M they have left to work with after all these contracts expire. I just like this signing more than giving it to another injury/reclamation project.
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
+1
they must be scared shi.less and/or have been blown off by blooper
don’t see any money left for fuentes in this
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
i won't say you are delusional
but i see it as highly unlikely. gotta look at carp as lost/sunk dollars and with these dollars to lohe (~10% of total projected budget)
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
especially since
at this point, we are negotiating against ourselves. WTF is the hurry?
"All I am saying is give Freese a chance!" -- nmstar
ump tells Larue
To put the brass knuckles away.
- Y.2.2
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
and there's Yadi
Toldja. On your feet.
- Y.2.2
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Chipper Jones
Is chipper hurt or are they just not playing him so he can win the batting title? Maybe they are not playing him since they are way out, but he hasn’t been playing for 4,5 games i think.
fish beating up mets. brewers 1 man on, still tied.
both in the 8th.
AL wilds holding steady.
- Y.2.2
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
back to back home runs
off of two different awful relief pitchers. What an awful bullpen the Mets have.
"All I am saying is give Freese a chance!" -- nmstar
fair question
Who’s got the worst pen in baseball?
- Y.2.2
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
according to espn
Mets have a 4.24 era and cardinals are 1 rank better at 4.18
Shea cryin'
- Y.2.2
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
twins on their way
4-0 going into 8th.
- Y.2.2
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
the dream! nooo.
- Y.2.2
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Crew takes it
CC goes 122 pitches.
- Y.2.2
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
i was thinking that,
if i was the brews i woulda let him out there until his arm fell off….i don’t buy into LaRussa’s save the magic bullet.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
that is crap.
Should have been the best pitcher they had available.
"All I am saying is give Freese a chance!" -- nmstar
Crew still couldn't do anything till the 7th
- Y.2.2
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
screw the scoreboard
It’s Motte time.
- Y.2.2
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
i love how he walks
halfway to home plate after every pitch… that has to be intimidating.
"All I am saying is give Freese a chance!" -- nmstar
you know it's scary
When LaRue has to calm him down.
- Y.2.2
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
holy crap Iz2
- Y.2.2
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
slow roller waaaay in the gap
izturis gets to it, spins, leaps and throws him out by a step.
"All I am saying is give Freese a chance!" -- nmstar
across the freakin diamond
- Y.2.2
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
way to end the year IZ2
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
Render unto Cesar
that which is Cesar’s…
"Fortune favors the bold!" - Virgil
by player2bnamedl8r on Sep 28, 2008 4:48 PM EDT reply actions
it took someone 162 games to drop that
what the heck took so long?
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
my family has that joke
Not sure about VEB.
- Y.2.2
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Not sure...
I’ve been using that a lot lately…and really, I’m not sure why.
Question is, what should he be rendered? A Gold Glove? A contract extension?
"Fortune favors the bold!" - Virgil
by player2bnamedl8r on Sep 28, 2008 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
no!!!!!!
to the contract extension.
a pat on the back should be rendered for that play
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
I would just like to note
That David Wright’s eyeblack is running like Tammy Faye’s. Still top ninth.
- Y.2.2
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
remember how slow glaus started
he is still gonna finish at .270/ 27/ 99…thats pretty good…if he plays the whole season next year like he did the last half this year, our offense is going to look pretty sharp
+1
- Y.2.2
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
he better hope Izzy didn't rig it up
- Y.2.2
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
i wanna see Stache & Ronny V tackle someone
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
you know, as much as we dogged franklin this year
he still finished #18 in all of MLB in BP’s WXRL (reliever Win Expectation above Replacement, Lineup-adjusted), less than 1/10th of a win worse than Papelbon.
"All I am saying is give Freese a chance!" -- nmstar
He's also 103rd in Relievers Expected Runs
He’s useful in the right spots, he’s not a closer.
Kosuke Fukudome: $48 million .259 .360 .378
Skip Schumaker: $Free .305 .361 .414
Skippy needs a new publicist
I hate to think we dogged Franklin
i would prefer to think we dogged Tony’s use of him. Franklin may have got caught in the crossfire a few times.
that may also be taken as a use of the royal we
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
so all i want to do is watch the mets' season end
but the wwl won’t cut away from the 9-ball tournament of champions.
tbs?
- Y.2.2
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
from your mouth to Tonys ears
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
Good point
Perez will get his chances next year (crosses fingers)
Obama/Pujols 2008.
by davethebutcher on Sep 28, 2008 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
the crying Mets fans shots just rolling in
One out away.
- Y.2.2
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
that is perfect
i have a new avatar
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
AND THAT'S A WINNER!!!!
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
ballgame! season!
- Y.2.2
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
only because of low expectations.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
I disagree
I for one was massively entertained for all but two weeks.
- Y.2.2
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
For sure,
all the surprises coming out of this year. Ludwick, Perez, Motte, Glaus, Pujols (well, not a surprise to card fans) and all the others. I had a lot of fun this year and think i will have even more fun next year.
Obama/Pujols 2008.
by davethebutcher on Sep 28, 2008 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
the cooler scooter
- Y.2.2
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
ah yes, how could I forget.
Obama/Pujols 2008.
by davethebutcher on Sep 28, 2008 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
the Mets lumber on!
Church comes up. Six consecutive strike outs. 2 outs, 1 man on.
- Y.2.2
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
big big big
Fly out.
- Y.2.2
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
well i found this blog right before the season starte
and i must say…its been a pleasure boys and girls…thank for all the scintilating conversation and behind the scenes info
heck yeah
I’ll be back tomorrow for this “big announcement” thing.
- Y.2.2
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
Now that I think about it
too bad Westcoast got himself banned. We’d have known all about this thing…
_snorts drink_
- Y.2.2
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
well, it ain't over till it's over
but sadly, now it’s officially over.
thanks for everyone here for making this 2008 season a lot more enjoyable than i ever thought it would be. you really are the best fans in baseball & you should be very proud. LB, Red, HTown & that wild & crazy robot especially.
it’s been a blast. i’ll be seeing you.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
Don't forget
the cards have a ridiculous money coming off the books for 09….the hotstove season should be “fun”.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
Lud loves everyone
- Y.2.2
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
the Cards finished 10 games over ,500
looking back to the spring, i honestly i can’t believe that. which makes the last 6 weeks all the more aggravating.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
this last was the longest win streak of the season
And what a fine avatar you have there!
- Y.2.2
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
it's dead solid perfect
big ups to FSN Natti. they have been showing the Cardinals players waving to the fans as they go to & come out of commercial breaks. that is a pretty classy move.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
can i be the first to say
now that the post-season is hours away…. ANYONE BUT THE CUBS!!!
When cheese gets its picture taken, what does it say?
by RosevilleRedbird on Sep 28, 2008 5:16 PM EDT reply actions
which means
there is a chance I might be rooting for the Brewers in the postseason? I think I might have to go puke now
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
+1
- Y.2.2
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
i don't really think anyone in the NL can beat the Cubs...
so I am gonna be pulling for the AL… the anaheim angels of baja california will be tough to beat
When cheese gets its picture taken, what does it say?
by RosevilleRedbird on Sep 28, 2008 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions
my playoff rooting matrix
1. No Cubs
2. No Red Sox
3. No Rays
4. Any of the above three combinations.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
the first two i understand
but how can you not like the Ray’s story?
Amaury translates into "Punisher of Spheroids" in the lost tongue of Atlantis. Marti means "Belgian Waffle." www.futureredbirds.net
Ditto
I’ll pin my hopes on the Dodgers and Phillies, neither of whom I hate. But if it comes down to Brewers/Cubs, I’ll pull the lever for the Brew Crew. But I’ll be pulling it with one hand, because I’ll be holding my nose with the other…
"Crud, does that booger-eating spaz make me wanna puke!" - Tanner Boyle
man, that's refreshing
I thought i was the only one left with all this trendy not-hating the cubs bs lately.
While people are claiming to be cards fans watching football and rooting for the cubs this october I’ll be the only one at the sports bar in front of the only tv playing the playoffs rooting against the cubs…just like last year :D
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
I'm indifferent
I’m more anti brewers. should be an interesting playoffs
go rays
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 28, 2008 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions
how pissed off is Jim Leyland right now?
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
hopefully
the team is pissed off enough that they take care of the Pale Hose tomorrow afternoon. I doubt it though. Disinterested is probably more like it.
Did Sheffield hit #500 today?
If not, he still has a chance tomorrow.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 28, 2008 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I read that as "did Sheffield hit someone today"
+1 on the milestone
- Y.2.2
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT
i'm happy it's over, but i'm also sad it's over
up until this weekend, these last 6 weeks really soured me on the entire season. but now i’ve been able to step back & look at the season as a whole & i’ve begun to really appreciate this edition of the Cardinals. hardly anyone expected them to win 75 games, let alone finish with 86 wins & 10 games over .500. like way to many recent editions of the Cardinals, they had more than their fair share of injuries & bad luck. but they didn’t let that get them down, and in the end, they gave everyone a pretty good season.
no one associated with the Cardinals will hang their head this off season. fans included. they went out & made us all very proud. and for that, i am very grateful. the 2008 St. Louis Cardinals were not the best Cardinal team of all time, nor were they world champions. but they will always have a special place in my heart.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
thank you
and now, a song for this final day of the season. i think it pretty much says it all.
Blink182’s final release as a band, Not Now
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
Good morning here; Good evening where you are. Endless thanks for all of the fun and the posts
Anyone coming to Thailand, first beverage of choice is on me. Maybe two, but you pay your own bar fines. . .
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
thanks folks
it was a nice run. thanks for the memories!
Imagine the Cardinals winning it all in 2008... ok, lest's do it in 2009
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