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What a long strange trip...

We’ve reached game #162. It’s been a wild ride and a somewhat disappointing ending but, all in all, it’s been a pretty good season – certainly much better than most of us expected. And, though the Cardinals’ season is over, I still love the game and enjoy the hell out of watching the playoffs. The best baseball, the best teams, the highest stakes. I wish the Cards were going to get to take part but I’ll enjoy them nonetheless. Maybe next year.

We know that #1 on Tony’s offseason wish list is a "difference maker" in the middle of the lineup. While I’m not yet sure we need that guy, I can’t deny that it would be nice to be able to pencil a Matt Holliday-type into our lineup 155 times in ’09. I also can’t deny that we have problems offensively. In fact, in many respects our offense is downright offensive but it’s reasonable to wonder how much of a priority it should be in the offseason.

For instance, our offense’s win probability added is 1.75 this year – more than 10 NL teams. The team’s batting average – tied for 1st in the NL. The team’s OBP – 2nd in the NL. What about our lack of "pop?" That’s why Tony wants some sock in the middle, right? Team slugging % is 5th in the NL. Ok, it’s not quite as good as our batting average or OBP, but it’s still above average in the NL and better than the Dodgers, who’ll be 1 of the NL’s 4 playoff teams. In all honesty, the top 4 NL teams by slugging % are the Cubs, Phillies, Marlins, and Brewers – at least 2 of which will make the playoffs and the other 2, or 1 if the Brewers pull this off, (disclaimer: I’m typing this Thursday night as I’m heading out of town for the weekend.) will have been in the race well into September.

Team OPS is 2nd in the NL. Team batting average w/ runners in scoring position – 2nd. Runs per game – 5th in the NL. There’s little question that the team has 2 or 3 pretty ginormous holes and absolutely no team speed but the offense really has done a solid job. Remember also, these numbers are somewhat skewed by the recent injuries to Ankiel and Mather b/c they’ve been replaced in the OF largely by Miles and Kennedy. Say what you want about Aaron Miles (few of us will defend Kennedy’s offense), he doesn’t offer the offense that either Ankiel or Mather do.

There are two areas on offense where this team has been pretty bad, however. First, as I alluded to a minute ago, is our overall lack of team speed. Each of the 4 teams who scored more runs than the Cards this year were better at stealing bases (though Florida was just barely) than the Cards were. We finished 11th in the league in stolen bases and 10th in the league w/ our 70.2 stolen base success rate. It would really help, though I don’t think it’s mandatory, if we could improve both of those numbers next year. I hasten to add, however, that Tony’s idea of a "difference maker" in the middle of the order (such as Holliday) will do little to help in this area.

The other element to the team’s offense that could use some work is the players’ patience at the plate. While the team’s OBP is the 2nd highest in the big leagues, only 1 NL team saw fewer pitches per plate appearance than the Cards. The Cards averaged 3.68 P/PA. The NL average was 3.81 P/PA and the Giants finished last in this category w/ 3.67 P/PA. There’s good reason to believe that if the Cards were a little more patient at the plate – even as patient as the average team – the team would score considerably more runs. It would mean the players were hitting in more favorable counts, forcing opposition pitchers to throw more pitches, and get into other teams’ bullpens earlier. In so doing, we would have the opportunity to get deeper into teams’ pens – thus facing more weaker pitchers.

If the Cards had seen even the league average number of pitches this season, our hitters would have seen 806 more pitches over the first 158 games. That averages out to 5.10 additional pitches per game. It doesn’t sound like much but at 3.81 P/PA, that’s an additional 1.34 plate appearances per game. The Cards’ offense scored 1 run every 8.37 plate appearances this season so, even if the Cards would have continued at the same rate, the additional 217 plate appearances would have increased the Cards’ run total by 25.9 runs.

The extra 26 runs would have added about 2.5 wins to the team’s total. Instead of waiting for the season to end, we’d be entering the final weekend w/ a chance at the Wild Card. Again, this all assumes that the offense doesn’t benefit from facing weaker pitchers, doesn’t benefit from facing tired pitchers more frequently, and doesn’t benefit from hitting in more favorable counts. These assumptions are all entirely based on the team’s present rate of runs per plate appearance. Being even league average in terms of seeing pitches would have made a substantial difference to the team’s results. If it had also led to, as it surely would have, facing more fatigued pitchers and weaker pitchers, and more favorable counts, the run total and win total would increase some more.  It's entirely possible that most of the present gap between the Wild Card leaders and the Cardinals could have been made up simply by our worst hitters being more selective at the plate.

So who were the team’s worst culprits in this regard? It should come as little surprise that the team’s best hitters this year saw the most pitches per PA. Among regulars, Glaus led the team at 4 P/PA, followed by Pujols, Ludwick, and Ankiel who all saw 3.8 P/PA. For Ankiel, particularly, he made tremendous strides at the plate raising his P/PA from 3.4 last year to 3.8 this year. Make no mistake, patience at the plate is a skill that is difficult to teach veteran ballplayers. It’s not a skill older players develop. If they never had it to begin with, they’re not likely to change so the improvement that Ankiel made in this regard is profound.

For what it’s worth, since becoming a Cardinal Felipe Lopez has seen 4.1 P/PA which is actually right in line w/ his career numbers. His early season #s w/ the Nats were 3.7 P/PA but he’s consistently been over 4 P/PA throughout his career. The problem lies w/ the weaker elements in the lineup, however. The Cardinals had 5 players w/ more than 350 PAs who saw 3.6 P/PA or fewer. Skip was at 3.6. Kennedy and Izturis were at 3.5, Molina at 3.4, and Aaron Miles saw 3.3 P/PA. It’s worth noting that Miles numbers, also, are right in line w/ his career numbers. He’s seen 3.3, 3.5, 3.4, and 3.3 P/PA in 2005, 06, 07, and 08, respectively. I’m stunned every time I read someone’s post that says that Aaron Miles "works counts well" b/c nothing could be further from the truth. He had his best season this year. That’s beyond dispute. But he definitely does not work counts well. Never has. Never will.

Now, it’s only natural that the better hitters would see more P/PA as pitchers are less inclined to pitch carefully to singles hitters like Skip, Molina, Miles, Kennedy, and Izturis. Pitchers are more likely to go right after them b/c they are less capable of inflicting the damage that Pujols, Ludwick, et al can inflict. Nevertheless, it’s difficult to argue that they wouldn’t be any better at the plate if they didn’t see more pitches. David Eckstein has routinely seen 3.8 P/PA throughout his career b/c, despite the fact that pitchers do go right after him, he has always had a tremendous ability to foul pitches off and make pitchers work. If Skip and the others had that sort of skill, they too might be able to get their P/PA up to league average or so. You think Tony would be a little happier if the team had scored an extra 26 runs (or more?)and were in the hunt for the Wild Card in the final weekend? Me, too.  Might he have been more vigilant about putting the best lineup on the field these past couple of weeks if the team were still in the playoff hunt?  I think so.

Well, this is it for the season. I’ll have a game thread up later. I’m hoping the final game of the season brings some lively discussion and I hope the team can close out the season w/ a win.

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by Bahamaredbird on Sep 28, 2008 8:41 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

an interesting post

working the count makes you a better hitter and helps your team in other ways(even a 15 pitch strike out early in a game is helpful), yet bad hitters don’t do it despite probably having it drilled into them from rookie ball on. I guess “it just doesn’t feel right not to swing”

however, in your 7-27 post, you pointed out that 6 Cardinals regulars occupy 6 of the top 8 spots in all of baseball in “batting average allowed by pitchers faced”

how much marginal gain is there to be had getting 5 pitches deeper into the pen on average r/e facing worse pitchers when we’re already facing worse pitchers on average than the rest of the league? It doesn’t seem like anybody was hiding their bad pitchers from us

by vances law on Sep 28, 2008 9:42 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'd agree

that pitches per at-bat is pulled down dramatically by the number of no-power slap hitters that play regularly for the Cardinals: LaRussa gave more than 400 plate appearances to Skip, Molina, Izturis, Miles and Kennedy (well, only 365 for Kennedy)—-that’s 5 of the 9 players on the team with that many plate appearances—-who have almost zero extra-base power.

Molina: 25 xbh; Kennedy: 23 xbh; Izturis: 14 xbh; Skip: 35 xbh; Miles: 21 xbh.

Only Skip among that group walked more than 32 times….

The skill of a David Eckstein to go up there and foul off a half-dozen piches is pretty rare in MLB, and it’s not realistic to expect these guys—-none of whom are whiffers—-to acquire that skill.

They put pitches in play and they don’t have power. How many times have you seen a line drive off of Aaron Miles’s bat and you think—-YES! Base hit!—-and then you realize the outfielder is playing 200 feet away from the plate?

Bottom line, LaRussa may indeed be right that we need one more bopper—-so that 5 guys in the line-up have extra-base pop—-and maybe that’ll be Rasmus with Ankiel in left, I don’t know….

by salvomania on Sep 28, 2008 10:34 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ludwick-Rasmus-Ankiel

That outfield makes me drool. Skippy and Barton(or Mather) on the bench.

by Evilfrog on Sep 28, 2008 10:48 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'd think it'd be a waste of resources to have Skippy on the bench

We could get a pretty good return on an above average CF’er. Kelly Johnson anyone? Sign Furcal and that is a complete lineup…

Kosuke Fukudome: $48 million .259 .360 .378
Skip Schumaker: $Free .305 .361 .414
Skippy needs a new publicist

by joker24 on Sep 28, 2008 1:29 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Big Bopper?

Hmm…Manny Ramirez, Pat Burrell, Adam Dunn, and Aubrey Huff all fit the bill. Huff would require a trade, the rest most likely long term big and bigger bucks.

If they are going to spend big money, it’s better spent on a hitter. Pitchers almost never turn out to be worth the money or the contract when all is said and done.

I would love to see Rasmus stay with the organization. I have serious question about Ankiel’s ability to stay healthy-it’s been a problem with him throughout his career. Ludwick too-except he’s now put two healthy seasons back to back, so there’s reason for hope there…..

She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.

by jillsinmo on Sep 28, 2008 10:53 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Baltimore O's offseason needs

Today’s Baltimore Sun has a review of what the O’s need to do to reverse their 11 year slide. There are three points of interest for Cardinals fans.

First, they are going to attempt to extend Brian Roberts rather than trade him. In Roberts, the O’s have their lead off hitter, a huge fan favorite and Angelos’ favorite player. Second, they believe they have an inside shot with AJ Burnett because he makes his offseason home 25 minutes north of Camden Yards. Finally, the O’s have to fill the void left when they traded Tejada and there is a most interesting list of replacement shortstops:

Also, several players who have previously interested the Orioles – Adam Everett, David Eckstein, Cesar Izturis and Felipe Lopez – are options.

by ubeddie on Sep 28, 2008 11:57 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Don't understand Tony's comment

It’s the starting pitching and our bullpen that’s the problem.

by Brockoli on Sep 28, 2008 12:30 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

was at the game last night; a few thoughts

the crowd was pretty good; there wasn’t a feeling of apathy or disappointment, just people wanting to see some good baseball to finish off the year. they really wanted perez to get that last out! i went to the game with my sister in law and a couple of her friends, and i got to play the “baseball expert” being the only real baseball fan of the group. my favorite moment in this vein was when one of the friends asked “is that K backwards?”
albert’s homer was a laser beam. from my vantage point, it really seemed like it just made a straight line from his bat to just above the outfield wall. there was a nice, but far too brief, “mvp” chant for him. one of ankiel’s homers i saw at the stadium last year looked very similar (to right field rather than left). the comments in the game thread were great; “line drive hitter with power” indeed.
lastly, the best stadium contest/between-inning-silliness i’ve ever witnessed. this time, it was the dance contest, which can either be amusing or embarrassing. it started how it usually does, at the top of the grass hill in center field. as the first guy began his dance, all of a sudden the music changed. the jumbotron displayed a pasty white guy with a surprisingly deep voice, exclaiming that we were no strangers to love. large flashing text told us the stark truth, which was either bewildering to the uninitiated, or was just telling those of us in the know what we already feared. yes, the entire stadium got rick rolled.
i laughed my ass off, probably getting a few confused glances in the process.

by mattybobo on Sep 28, 2008 12:55 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I was at last night's game too

it was the last of the Pujols pack my wife and I got (they were 4-1 in our games, including the ninth inning comeback against Wood and the Cubs and AW’s complete game against Houston in April, so we were pretty happy with our games overall). I agree it was a pretty good crowd, and it was crazy how quickly Pujols’ HR got out. I didn’t think it was high enough when he hit it, but it hardly had a chance to lose any altitude. Troy’s looked like a no doubter off the bat from where we were (right next to Big Mac Land).

I hadn’t realized that rick-rolling had made it far enough into pop cultural consciousness to be part of between-inning entertainment at Busch. And judging from the reactions I saw, it probably hasn’t….

I won’t get to listen to much of today’s game, so last night was the season finale for me, and it ended on a good note. It’s been a disappointing September, but not a disappointing season overall. And it’s nice to end on a winning streak like last year (maybe even back in 3rd place…? C’mon, Atlanta!).

by BTown Birds fan on Sep 28, 2008 2:03 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

heh

yeah, i’d say my sis in law and i were the only people within a 20 foot radius at least who actually got it. ah well… unfortunately we couldn’t make it to the game until after glaus’ homer. lopez hit his while i was getting something to eat. and right before the pitch that albert hit out, i thought to myself “maybe i should take a picture of albert with my phone, it would be sweet to catch him hitting a dinger.” of course i thought better and didn’t. and then he destroyed the ball.

by mattybobo on Sep 28, 2008 2:09 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm fine with it

.. if we do not resign Looper. Just one or the other please. Is Looper a Type B free agent?

by jjray on Sep 28, 2008 1:07 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah

we really don’t need to sign both of them, unless of course we get good deals for both.

go rays

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 28, 2008 1:16 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

now if that comment on that blog is right

that is a great contract 3 yr 28 M with a 12.5 M option. That sounds too good to be true almost.

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Sep 28, 2008 1:27 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I know!

but I hope McKernan is right. Maybe last offseason has turned Boras soft?

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Sep 28, 2008 1:30 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

See Alvarez, Pedro

No.

Kosuke Fukudome: $48 million .259 .360 .378
Skip Schumaker: $Free .305 .361 .414
Skippy needs a new publicist

by joker24 on Sep 28, 2008 1:37 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

outstanding way to make a point

seriously!

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by mattyfrommo on Sep 28, 2008 1:45 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and now McKernan says it wasnt him who posted that

has to be too good to be true

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by mattyfrommo on Sep 28, 2008 2:22 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he's saying 4 years

+ an option valued at $10-12 M per year. That’s too much for Lohse. Goold says it’s similar to Silva’s 4 year $48 M contract signed last winter. It’s too much.

by chuckb on Sep 28, 2008 3:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he reads VEB?

- Y.2.2

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 28, 2008 1:35 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lb I NEED A ROSTER MATRIX

It’s game 162, it’s about to be the off-season: roster matrix—-roster matrix—-roster matrix. If you’re feeling happy give me roster matrices with the possibilities!

Kosuke Fukudome: $48 million .259 .360 .378
Skip Schumaker: $Free .305 .361 .414
Skippy needs a new publicist

by joker24 on Sep 28, 2008 1:36 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah,

that’s the thing. If we can now sign Looper for 3 y/$18 M, I’d still take both of them.

by Hardcore Legend on Sep 28, 2008 1:27 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

we can lock them up those process, gotta do it. seem to me that would make them tradable if carp pans out, not to mention finding a home for pinata

"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension

by sportsman on Sep 28, 2008 1:46 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

People always rail on players for being out to get the most money

And it always confuses me, if a guy signs a discount deal he’s immediately seen as tradeable…

Kosuke Fukudome: $48 million .259 .360 .378
Skip Schumaker: $Free .305 .361 .414
Skippy needs a new publicist

by joker24 on Sep 28, 2008 1:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

because its true

every team is looking to improve, but to do so economically. value is critical, ie, note how many “untradeable” contracts are out there and how big contracts can only be taken on by certain teams in CA or AL east. there is no salary cap per se, but each team does effectively have a cap, so it matters

"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension

by sportsman on Sep 28, 2008 2:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's the entire point

Why would an individual want to sign a discount deal and thus be easily dealt to anywhere in the country (or Toronto) at the drop of a hat?

Kosuke Fukudome: $48 million .259 .360 .378
Skip Schumaker: $Free .305 .361 .414
Skippy needs a new publicist

by joker24 on Sep 28, 2008 2:41 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

good post houscard!

good analysis on the offense. there is room for improvement, but they performed quite well imo. actually, they did even better than I thought they would… and I expected a good season from them. Yadi showed signs of continued improvement in hitting, heck even Kennedy and Iztoo show signs right now of improving in hitting (not that I am excited to see that next season, please don’t let that be the case!).

I would hope to see us spend money on a hitter this offseason, or a trade of course for a middle infielder. I can’t remember an offseason that looks to be as exciting as this one. Unless it is too inactive. As much as I liked the team this season, I’d like even more to see a 95 win version of this team… which means changes will need to take place, but probably not drastic ones. The most change of course should be on the bullpen; but again, nothing drastic. I don’t want to see a change that results in us using developing players less, and I don’t want to go back to old roles, such as Izzy being the definitive closer. I think what’s best for the pen is a revamping rather than an overhaul. Clearly, the best options will be to bite the bullet and leave it up to Motte and Perez to duke it out throughout spring training and probably the first half of the season to see who will be the better closer, or high leverage guy. Maybe it will be best to consistently use both in both situations. To me, it makes the most sense to use McClellan and Springer in setup roles, and of course we will have Josh Kinney to throw into the mix as well. Maybe he’ll end up closing. 2009 is too far away!

My advocate for trade is Skip Schumaker. If showcased well, they could attract some nice trades. Throw Duncan into the mix at 1B, and perhaps a pitcher or two plus Adam friggin Kennedy, and we just might find an above average shortstop, or 2B. Depending how the trade goes, Furcal, Renteria, or Cabrera will be of great interest if we don’t get a shortstop. Lopez another possibility to be signed at 2B…. or will Larussa be balls to the walls crazy again and throw Lopez in the outfield, 3B, or wherever he damn well pleases.

Back to packing up all my stuff; not looking forward to the move, it is supposed to rain tomorrow.

go rays

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 28, 2008 1:16 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

agree on kinney

he is not as exciting to watch as motte, but he has done better than the prez. will he hold up for a whole year, don’t know, but i’d consider him as a springer/fireman replacement if russ hangs em up at a minimum.

also, it seems bizzare that tlr believes our first need is a xbh hitter. it’s like the most important thing for the team is to “protect” ap. really? how can you do that? ap is the best hitter and it doesn’t matter who hits behind him, they won’t be as good. so, we will always see teams pitching around albert. what would be nice, is to not be looking at luddy and rick back to back competing for strikeout leader of the team. more runs, more xbh would be nice, but i’d like to se us have a lineup with enough good hitters that it does matter who hits 8th.

bottom line is we had the lead so many times and couldn’t hold it. that and our overall offensive rankings seems to indicate pitching will be the key next year and it also seems obvious that we have to find a team in need of outfielders. we just don’t have any other major league or major league ready players we can “spare” over the winter. personally, my 2 cents is skip has little value because he is a lo-power outfielder with difficulties against lhp. if an outfielder is to be traded for a player of value, it will have to be rick or ryan. i look at next year as an outfield of skip/barton in left as a leadoff pairing. whether to keep rick or ryan is tough and will, no doubt, depend on which team they deal with. i am, however, optimistic about mather; i would hate to ship him off. if we do move rick or ryan, i see mather as capable of holding a spot at least semi-full time, in the beginning for sure. rasmus is really the wild card here, what with his injury and penthouse/doghouse issues. if he could step in, then i’d say to move rick because it gives us more balance.

thanks to all posters for making it a more interesting season. this was my first with EI and following the game threads, and it made the season much more enjoyable. thanks again to all

"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension

by sportsman on Sep 28, 2008 2:09 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ripken on TBS pregame

Cal Ripken has Ryan Howard as his MVP because of Howard’s impact on the pennant winning Phillies. He gives AP the game’s best all around player award. This is kinda ironic comment from a player that won the MVP in 1991 for a sixth place team that played .414 baseball.

by ubeddie on Sep 28, 2008 1:23 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

did Howard send him a cheesesteak?

- Y.2.2

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 28, 2008 1:26 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That this is even a decision is stupid.

Especially considering the difference between AP’s slugging pct and Howards is greaterthan the difference between Howard’s and Kelly Johnson’s. Bonds won MVP after MVP for less than stellar Giant teams because of offensive years that were exponentially better than everyone else’s and now Pujols is doing the same thing. Pujols has great numbers in ‘clutch’ situations – close and late, RISP, RISP w/ 2 outs, etc. It’s just stupid.

by rlgosnell on Sep 28, 2008 10:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Doesn't Howard have the 3rd most HRs ever

in a September this year?

He has been very good for the Phillies these past few months but that shouldn’t win you an MVP award. You can’t take half the season off.

by Hardcore Legend on Sep 28, 2008 1:28 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he has 11 in september

albert has 8. Given all the coverage howard is getting, i was sure it’d be more like 16 and 5.

So the question is, do those 3 extra home runs in september make up for the fact that albert out-OPS’d him by almost 300 points over the first 135 games of the season? ;)

"All I am saying is give Freese a chance!" -- nmstar

by SleepyCA on Sep 28, 2008 1:35 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

where can you find monthly records like that?

does BR PI do month-by-month splits? I can’t figure out how, if it does.

"All I am saying is give Freese a chance!" -- nmstar

by SleepyCA on Sep 28, 2008 1:41 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

huh... funny.

i seem to recall a cardinals batsman who set a record for homeruns in april in 2006. did he win the mvp? i’m pretty sure he lost it to some guy on the phillies. maybe my memory is just fuzzy or something.

[end sarcasm]

by mattybobo on Sep 28, 2008 1:58 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

april isn't part of the season, silly

only games in september count.

"All I am saying is give Freese a chance!" -- nmstar

by SleepyCA on Sep 28, 2008 2:01 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it's this kind of bullshit that'll cause

people to look at Pujols, when he’s getting ready to go into the Hall, and say “but he only won 1 MVP!” Because people don’t vote for him for MVP b/c they expect him to be great. He’s held to an unreasonable standard and deserves better treatment from the media.

by chuckb on Sep 28, 2008 3:49 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I understand the feeling behind your statement but,

when Pujols is eligible I don’t forsee anyone sticking any ’but’s out there regarding his merits.

by rlgosnell on Sep 28, 2008 10:53 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wow, i actually might see a game on TBS

this might be the first game all season they havent blacked out TBS here

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by mattyfrommo on Sep 28, 2008 1:28 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I completely missed the series-length picks

Anyone have a line on the series formats por favor?

- Y.2.2

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 28, 2008 1:33 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

n/m

Found it. “The Angels and Red Sox will play the one first-round series that uses an eight-day format.” (ChiTrib)

- Y.2.2

"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 28, 2008 1:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Can we get a second opinion

on Kyle Lohse physical?

Like with Scott Rolen, can he see the Reds team doctor?

by Hardcore Legend on Sep 28, 2008 1:42 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’m still baffled y the supposed need for another impact bat. How many teams had the offensive potency of Ankiel, Pujols, Ludwick, and Glaus. That’s over 100 homers from the middle of our lineup, not too shabby, Our bullpen happened to tie the franchise record for the most blown saves ever and challenged for the alltime record. I’d say that’s where we need to start. And actually we probably have improved by preparing Motte and Perez for serious yearlong roles in 2009. We won’t be dealing with an injured closer who refuses to tell anyone that he’s not at full health. I like Izzy but that really cheeses me off when a guy takes the field knowing that he doesn’t have what it takes to get the job done. That wasn’t brave or noble, it was flat out selfish and it cost the rest of the team dearly. We might have Kinney back for a whole year, he looked great at the end. With a full compliment of relievers we won;t have to extend Franklin past one inning which is where he really got into trouble and lost us some games. That might also help with KMAC. I don’t think that he was ready for the load that was put on hime, his losses show that. I’m not sure what to make of this year. We competed for a lot of the year, we had a winning record, but we stil ended up in fourth place in our divison which is where I thought they would be at the beginning of the year when I expected them to stink. So even though they had some great moments this year, over the long haul they didnt surprise me. What did shock me is that they were good and bad in completely different ways than I expected. As I already mentioned, the bullpen stunk and I expected them to be very solid. The starters were great (Pinhead excluded) an I expected them to struggle, Ludwick and Ankiel were huge and I expected mediocrity, Glaus’ defense was way better han what I expected but his streakiness killed me. It seemed like all his production was crammed into 4 or 5 weeks (huge while Pujols was hur) and then he was a question mark the rest of the year. Hopefully we really are just a couple of pieces short and next year we’ll be back where we belong. I think Pujol will be more inclined to leave if he thinks the front office won’t do what it takes to win. He’s too competitive to just hang around for a big paycheck. So you tell me, was it a good year, a bad year, or just what we expected?

by BobaSchrute on Sep 28, 2008 9:45 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

just imagine if chris duncan

had managed to stay healthy. We would have possibly had five .370+ obp/30 hr bats in the lineup.

"All I am saying is give Freese a chance!" -- nmstar

by SleepyCA on Sep 30, 2008 2:29 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dude

Nice post, good comments, but please hit return once in a while for a little readability.

I think it was a sort of good year, depending on how we build on it. Before the season started, I pegged the over and under on Cards wins at 83 and the six game win streak got us over. I still lost my bet as I went under, bummer.

I especially liked your comments about injured players. Guys need to be more team oriented and not just worry about being a hero.

Those Pilgrims ain't lookin' so proud now...

by giveml on Sep 28, 2008 10:25 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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