Game 158 Open Thread- 24th September, 2008
by the red baron on Sep 24, 2008 7:18 PM EDT
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Scherzer A.D.A.M.
A prodigal son
A chance missed by the home team
Now returns a man
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Seriously? Can't we alternate regulars' off days?
Schumaker, CF
Miles, 2B
Stavinoha, LF
Lopez, 3B
Kennedy, RF
Phelps, 1B
Johnson, C
Wainwright, P
Izturis, SS
Piñata - something children beat relentlessly with bats. Piñeiro - .858 OPS against. Some call it irony; I call it destiny.
Even on off-days
Brian Barden can’t crack the lineup.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 24, 2008 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions
are they somewhere in the same room
annihilating the universe?
- Y.2.2
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - HBT
apparently Tony HATES Barton
if Kennedy is playing outfield again.
go rays
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 24, 2008 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions
oh yeah
it makes perfect sense
go rays
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 24, 2008 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Barton?
That name sounds familiar…but I just can’t place it
Delgado an MVP candidate!........seriously!? Wait Ryan Howard is now too!?...Ah WTF?!?!
by RunninRedbird on Sep 24, 2008 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Did he use to play for us?
Delgado an MVP candidate!........seriously!? Wait Ryan Howard is now too!?...Ah WTF?!?!
by RunninRedbird on Sep 24, 2008 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Ladies and gentlemen, The Godfather
This is his damn house. He sleeps 20 feet away.
defy, cards, defy. hey logic --- you suck.
+1000000
YES. LOL
Piñata - something children beat relentlessly with bats. Piñeiro - .858 OPS against. Some call it irony; I call it destiny.
by thegodfather on Sep 24, 2008 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions
nice!
"I remember once talking to one guy on the Cardinals and asking him what Pujols was like as a teammate. He said something that’s really special, if you think about it. He said: "Albert is so good that you feel like you let him down when you screw up." I thought that had to be the ultimate line that could ever be said about a ballplayer. I build my baseball team around that ballplayer."
by Smokin Turkeys on Sep 24, 2008 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions
That.....
Plus I think Lopez is an excellent 3B, and I think Stavi has 30+ HR potential.
Gotta play the youngerish guys, right?
That?
I am gonna assume you like AK in RF.
I just don’t see how anyone can really like that lineup. There is a very good chance that 5 out of the 9 are not even with the team next year (Lopez, Kennedy, Phelps, Johnson, and Izturis). Might as well make sure that we show other teams their abilities? (on second thought, that isn’t a bad idea)
Still gotta see what we have in Izturis, no need to see about Barden at SS?
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
It's pathetic
when i’d give A.D.A.M. the best chance in the lineup of having a multi-hit game
Delgado an MVP candidate!........seriously!? Wait Ryan Howard is now too!?...Ah WTF?!?!
by RunninRedbird on Sep 24, 2008 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Adam Kennedy
he of the .650 or so OPS, batting 5th? Well, I guess that’s better than him batting 1st through 4th.
Walk your dog
not Stavinoha?
I have a love/hate relationship with the Cardinals' middle relief corps.
I have to ask...
Where is Amaury Marti in tonight’s lineup? Or would that be cheating?
Piñata - something children beat relentlessly with bats. Piñeiro - .858 OPS against. Some call it irony; I call it destiny.
He's still at his
church’s softball league game. I wouldn’t doubt if he makes a PH appearance and hits a five-run homer.
Delgado an MVP candidate!........seriously!? Wait Ryan Howard is now too!?...Ah WTF?!?!
by RunninRedbird on Sep 24, 2008 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions
In calculus I was told
that only Chuck Norris can divide by zero. I called BS. Amaury Marti can divide by zero AND count to infiniti. He’s done it. Twice.
Piñata - something children beat relentlessly with bats. Piñeiro - .858 OPS against. Some call it irony; I call it destiny.
by thegodfather on Sep 24, 2008 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Delgado
Just slammed the Mets.
- Y.2.2
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - HBT
Delgado
Just slammed the Cubs.
Apparently I can’t type it!
- Y.2.2
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - HBT
2 hits, 5 ER; that's an odd line (the three BB don't help)
by BTown Birds fan on Sep 24, 2008 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I feel sooo bad for him
Guess he shouldn’t have tossed that no-no
Delgado an MVP candidate!........seriously!? Wait Ryan Howard is now too!?...Ah WTF?!?!
by RunninRedbird on Sep 24, 2008 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Can't remember where I read it, but apparently Lou is considering lining up the playoff rotation
to make him the #3 cuz he’s been so inconsistent.
by BTown Birds fan on Sep 24, 2008 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Season ends with bang?
No, whimper. I’m so sad I
can’t count to five.
by BTown Birds fan on Sep 24, 2008 8:18 PM EDT reply actions
"Good bench tonight for the Cardinals"
says, Rooney, tongue sticking all the way through his cheek. Shannon chuckles despondently.
by BTown Birds fan on Sep 24, 2008 8:20 PM EDT reply actions
is it too early
to PH ludwick in this spot?
Wow Stav!
Inlove it when even the real OF’s screw up…no, I take that back.
Delgado an MVP candidate!........seriously!? Wait Ryan Howard is now too!?...Ah WTF?!?!
stav isn't an of though
he just fakes it
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Sep 24, 2008 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Much like Floppy
fakes being a 2B. I get it.
Delgado an MVP candidate!........seriously!? Wait Ryan Howard is now too!?...Ah WTF?!?!
would much rather have Lop as a 2nd bagger
than I would have Stav as a OF’er. Dunno how many games you’ve seen him play, but he’s horrid. Guess with the lineup b.s. over the past month there hasn’t been many chances to see however.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Sep 24, 2008 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Last time
I saw him play regularly was when he was in Springfield. Yeah, you’re right, he wasn’t that good then either.
Delgado an MVP candidate!........seriously!? Wait Ryan Howard is now too!?...Ah WTF?!?!
by RunninRedbird on Sep 24, 2008 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions
lol, same
i once saw him overrun a ball at Hammonds and kick it into the corner. Caught him a couple of times at Memphis as well, he’s slow as molasses.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Sep 24, 2008 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions
he is hoping this causes other teams to outbid us?
Sure we can, there are still 3 games left in the season
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
Could OF innings
go towards Joe-L’s IP total? He could lower his ERA and then maybe we could trade him for, I dunno, a real pinata or something.
Piñata - something children beat relentlessly with bats. Piñeiro - .858 OPS against. Some call it irony; I call it destiny.
by thegodfather on Sep 24, 2008 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Unfortunately,
a team would never give up their pinata for Joe-L because a pinata actually generates better production then he does…
Delgado an MVP candidate!........seriously!? Wait Ryan Howard is now too!?...Ah WTF?!?!
by RunninRedbird on Sep 24, 2008 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow
Johnson makes LaRue look good.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Sep 24, 2008 8:44 PM EDT reply actions
2-0 Cardinals
What runs were you looking for?
Obama/Pujols 2008.
by davethebutcher on Sep 24, 2008 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions
yep
I saw it, too. very strange. glad it was wrong
by 10worldchamps on Sep 24, 2008 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions
top of the morning from near the bottom of the world. Did anyone at Busch get up and walk out in protest over this . . .
. . . absurdity on the field. . . ?? Was there any justification announced for this lineup? Do the Cards owe the Dodgers anything?
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
Pregame convo
Tony : “I know we’re giving you a shitty lineup in this game, but we don’t want to play spoilers this year. Besides, look at it this way. You’re considered a slugger tonight!”
A.d.a.m. " Yay Me"
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Sep 24, 2008 8:50 PM EDT reply actions
Miles can catch and pitch
maybe he can do the bugs bunny cartoon and do both?
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Sep 24, 2008 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions
he throws so hard from the CF that the ball would rebound off the backstop and return to him. So it’s possible.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Sep 24, 2008 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ve never seen so many unsuccessful bunts/foul bunts by a player until this year. Screw batting practice, give him bunting practice.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Sep 24, 2008 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions
it is almost like he is trying to screw them up
so they won’t give him the bunt sign anymore
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
if he could bunt
that would be the only real offensive asset he represents, but he can’t even do that
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Sep 24, 2008 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Unreal start to the inning. Maybe double switch Miles and Wainwright. . .
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
I swear.
If Wainwright is hurt….
Piñata - something children beat relentlessly with bats. Piñeiro - .858 OPS against. Some call it irony; I call it destiny.
here's what gets me
if we’re going through the motions to get out of this season, why is he pitching to begin with? let him sit and pitch the mugs I say.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Sep 24, 2008 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Why even leave him in?
If you think he might be hurt, pull him already.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 24, 2008 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions
"You don't want someone being a hero out there and staying in the game"
Epically ironic statement by Al on Wainwright staying in the game. Especially, you know, with the ay Tony treats starting pitchers.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 24, 2008 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions
well, Al needs to remember that there is no such thing as a hero anyways when you’re in 4th place, just idiots.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Sep 24, 2008 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions
that's what I'm saying
well, really I’m saying don’t even put him in the rest of the season, but at worst, get his ass out of there. let that finger continue to heal and get him ready for ST
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Sep 24, 2008 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Mover over Carp, move over Mulder, resign Clement and add Wainwright. We'll have four solid starters on the DL
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
I think he is fine
He is just overthrowing for some reason.
"I remember once talking to one guy on the Cardinals and asking him what Pujols was like as a teammate. He said something that’s really special, if you think about it. He said: "Albert is so good that you feel like you let him down when you screw up." I thought that had to be the ultimate line that could ever be said about a ballplayer. I build my baseball team around that ballplayer."
by Smokin Turkeys on Sep 24, 2008 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions
"Sorry Randy, we were just kidding about that two run lead"
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Sep 24, 2008 9:06 PM EDT reply actions
Sherzer even
man it’s been a long ass week
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Sep 24, 2008 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions
wow, I did not know people were actually watching the Cardinals game..
Let me know when Motte comes into pitch. He’s about the only reason to change the channel.
When you have a poker tourny and shit cards, any ballgame helps. Agreed on Motte though, loving backing him against those who called him a one pitch wonder who wouldn’t make it in the Majors “because no one can survive on a fastball alone”. He’s been a nice bright spot in a dismal Sept.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Sep 24, 2008 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I just realized alot of cubs players have trademark moves
1. Soriano’s flyball hop
2. Dempster’s glove twitch
3. Fukudome’s softball slap (although that’s like a lot of Japanese players)
4. Zambrano acting like a jackass
Can’t believe these guys are going to the playoffs…
Delgado an MVP candidate!........seriously!? Wait Ryan Howard is now too!?...Ah WTF?!?!
Maybe by default. See our lineup and the managerial styles of Yost and Dusty . . .
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
Why, because they are not "scrappy" and instead just have talent?
Jed used to showboat all the time. I’ll take talent over scrappy or humble any day.
It was bought talent
But I suppose the Cards have their fair share of odd guys too. I forgot about our MIF who licks his sleeve at the plate.
Delgado an MVP candidate!........seriously!? Wait Ryan Howard is now too!?...Ah WTF?!?!
by RunninRedbird on Sep 24, 2008 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't resent them for spending the money
I know we’ve had our fair share of imported guys. It’s the fact that teams like the cubs and bosox who haven’t been relevant for 100 years start to spend some money, than when they win again begin to act like they invented the game, that’s what I don’t like.
Delgado an MVP candidate!........seriously!? Wait Ryan Howard is now too!?...Ah WTF?!?!
by RunninRedbird on Sep 24, 2008 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions
hell in the future the Cubs may actually spend more.
You almost better hope they win the World Series so they have less incentive to compete….
i wouldn't bank on less incentive
see : Boston Red Sox.
Personally, 100 More Years sounds damn good.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Sep 24, 2008 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
true
it will be hard to compete successfully against smart, rich teams
which is why cashman should be looking for a new job
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
Yes rich and smart is dangerous....
At least the Orioles and Blue Jays are rich and dumb.
Tampa is just young and talented, the Bo Sox are rich and smart.
and contrary
to many folks opinion, they did it with money, not a farm system. wonder if they’ll be the last to do it that way?
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
If you can do it with $, do it with $.........Just got to be smart.
No matter what approach you use you have to be smart. You have to draft well, if you think you are going to build from within.
I don’t give a crap what quirks the Cubbies have..
I would take Soriano, Dempster, and Zambrano in a heartbeat.
Oh I would take them too...
I’m not meaning those guys as individuals making the playoff. Just the cubs overall
Delgado an MVP candidate!........seriously!? Wait Ryan Howard is now too!?...Ah WTF?!?!
by RunninRedbird on Sep 24, 2008 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Fukudome bothers me.... With that bat flip, how much $$ he cost's and his average play
but the Cubbies have the $$$ to spend. I don’t see them slowing down on the spending either. The funny thing is if they want they can spend more.
I just hope that ownership realizes this.
The Cards will be in for a tough stretch if we don’t start trying to keep up with the talent the Cubs are able to buy.
Piñata - something children beat relentlessly with bats. Piñeiro - .858 OPS against. Some call it irony; I call it destiny.
by thegodfather on Sep 24, 2008 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, they need to be ready....
Most say the Cards are going to need a lot of home grown guys so they can afford to sign the 1 or 2 big name players they may need.
I don’t know the Cards will need some more impact talent ala Colby Rasmus if he pans out though…..
If your manager won't play the young players.
They are a lot less usefull
Especially if Cuban gets the team
God only knows how much he’ll spend with them…
Delgado an MVP candidate!........seriously!? Wait Ryan Howard is now too!?...Ah WTF?!?!
by RunninRedbird on Sep 24, 2008 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
not as much as everyone thinks, he’s never just thrown money around. but other front offices should start to note, he’ll challenge every notion out there and bring some new ideas to the old boys club.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Sep 24, 2008 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Should just encourage declining players who’s cost/performance is bought by division rivals. Trends show it’s usually a good thing.
Problem with this year is that they have several players who’s cost/performance is actually quite well.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Sep 24, 2008 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha he makes floppy look good
Piñata - something children beat relentlessly with bats. Piñeiro - .858 OPS against. Some call it irony; I call it destiny.
a challenge
but he seems up to it
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
I know people discuss future managers...
Tony probably will and should be done after 2009, I don’t know if it’s a good idea for him to be around in 2009… Seems like a lame duck year..
I wonder what it would take to get Ron Gardenhire? He seems to work well with the Twins develope from within strategy and he gets a lot out of his teams each and every year. Look at this year…. Most people don’t even know who is on the Twins, hell Mauer and Morneau are not really even that big of names… Casual baseball fans may not even really know them.
at least next year
he’ll be wanting to go out in a blaze of glory. if he is indeed managing next year
go rays
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 24, 2008 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions
he's ok
but i’d prefer melvin
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
still say
the Secret Weapon deserves his shot first. He’s earned it in my book
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Sep 24, 2008 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
love to see what he could do
Delgado an MVP candidate!........seriously!? Wait Ryan Howard is now too!?...Ah WTF?!?!
by RunninRedbird on Sep 24, 2008 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Jose will mostlikely get a shot, unless they think he is too much like TLR.....
I assume if TLR goes out in a positive manner Jose will get a shot. If TLR has issues maybe Jose gets clumped with him and does not get a shot?
I doubt it
Jose has always been regarded as a smart baseball guy and has great communication skills. He’s also been under/along side some smart managers in his career.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Sep 24, 2008 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions
good point
he’s been around Whitey Herzog, Larussa, Torre. can’t be a bad thing. he seems like the quiet type that gets the job done.
go rays
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 24, 2008 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions
can see F.O. having some reins on him though, he seems to me to be aggressive, though I’d like to see an aggressive manager – Whitey was fun.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Sep 24, 2008 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions
good loyal knowledgeable guy
but i would not put my money on him
i think warner hasa better shot
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
yeah
I hope they give him a shot
go rays
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 24, 2008 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions
OMG AK on fire . .. good time to fire him.. . .
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
heh
the diamondbacks are getting stung to death
go rays
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 24, 2008 9:49 PM EDT reply actions
Holy shit
did we just have productive outs/base running? Bliss!
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Sep 24, 2008 9:49 PM EDT reply actions
Too bad it comes
this late in the season and when the game doesn’t mean much of anything…
Delgado an MVP candidate!........seriously!? Wait Ryan Howard is now too!?...Ah WTF?!?!
by RunninRedbird on Sep 24, 2008 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Mean much to us at least
the d-backs still have something to play for.
Delgado an MVP candidate!........seriously!? Wait Ryan Howard is now too!?...Ah WTF?!?!
by RunninRedbird on Sep 24, 2008 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions
beggars can’t be choosers
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Sep 24, 2008 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions
What exactly was I begging for?
Delgado an MVP candidate!........seriously!? Wait Ryan Howard is now too!?...Ah WTF?!?!
by RunninRedbird on Sep 24, 2008 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions
was referencing me..
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Sep 24, 2008 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, my bad
Delgado an MVP candidate!........seriously!? Wait Ryan Howard is now too!?...Ah WTF?!?!
by RunninRedbird on Sep 24, 2008 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Shannon imitation of a cuckoo clock. Belike it's the end of the season. Or is he drinking again
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
that noise was his liver
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Sep 24, 2008 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions
wainwright=ace
can’t wait to see what he does in ‘09… but there’s that whole winter thing I gotta deal with in a few months…
go rays
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 24, 2008 9:56 PM EDT reply actions
Try watching the Rams. . . .
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
silly boy is a bears fan
haha
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Sep 24, 2008 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions
not much better
I’ll be watching da bearsss
go rays
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 24, 2008 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions
go Packers!
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Sep 24, 2008 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I was thinking the bathos and humor might help you through the winter. . .
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
or in my case the Chiefs...
(sobbing)
Delgado an MVP candidate!........seriously!? Wait Ryan Howard is now too!?...Ah WTF?!?!
by RunninRedbird on Sep 24, 2008 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
ouch
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Sep 24, 2008 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
No joke
Imagine his numbers if he hadn’t gotten hurt this year. Or where the team would have been…..(weeps softly)
Piñata - something children beat relentlessly with bats. Piñeiro - .858 OPS against. Some call it irony; I call it destiny.
by thegodfather on Sep 24, 2008 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Does Albert get to PH tonight?
Piñata - something children beat relentlessly with bats. Piñeiro - .858 OPS against. Some call it irony; I call it destiny.
My instincts would say no
We’ve got a lead, thus far, and he really does need a night off
Delgado an MVP candidate!........seriously!? Wait Ryan Howard is now too!?...Ah WTF?!?!
by RunninRedbird on Sep 24, 2008 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Seems like the 6th is always a tough inning for WW
40th anniversary of Gibson's 1.12 ERA, Think he could pitch in the bullpen now?
So, Waino is still recently off a finger injury
We’re in 4th, we’re playing for nothing, it’s the 6th inning and we… let him go up and beyond 102 pitches when his strike to ball ratio is near 1:1? Um, ok.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Sep 24, 2008 10:05 PM EDT reply actions
Not to worry, Capt Ron warming up . . .
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
if you were a genius
you’d understand
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
Has anyone heard from HoustonCardinal since hurricane Ike?
Or the other Houstonians besides me?
I missed a few games after we evacuated, got flooded, had no power (still have none)etc. So has anyone heard from them?
40th anniversary of Gibson's 1.12 ERA, Think he could pitch in the bullpen now?
Yes
he has been on here almost everyday.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 24, 2008 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
hc is around, yerdog is too
hc posted in this thread even
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Sep 24, 2008 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm here
last nights game was the first game back for me. Just got power back on Tuesday, so I set my computer and everything back up last night. My place didnt take any damage, though Ive been very busy cleaning up neighborhoods close to me.
If there’s anything I can do to help you get back to some semblance of normalcy, let me know.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Sep 24, 2008 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
dog
if you get a chance (and no where near in the near future, way too many important things to do) and come across a couple of ballparks that have been hit pretty hard (preferably little league type parks – for the kids) that looks like they need some help, could you drop a fan post?
I’d like to bring some money, equip and few friends down to work on the baseball fields if no one is already doing it. Could be a fun couple of weeks.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Sep 24, 2008 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Surely
I’ll be on the lookout. That sounds like a great Idea. Ive got a flight coming up on Friday for damage assesment reasons, and I’ll se if I can get my pilots to swing by some little league fields.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Sep 24, 2008 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks, I’ll keep an eye on the fan posts. Done it a few times down in SW Missouri (my fam is there) post ice storm and after a flood in NE OK, I enjoy it.
It usually ends up being a blast actually. Though it depends on who owns the field and how helpful they are.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Sep 24, 2008 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Sounds like a good time
I’ll see what I can find.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Sep 24, 2008 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm here, podlol
thanks for checking. Everything’s good here. I’m sorry to hear you’re still struggling. You’re down in the Seabrook area right? Sheesh. I’m up near Katy so our stoplights are even back to working. I hope you get everything you need back quickly. I can’t imagine what you, and those even worse off than you — I’m looking at you, Galveston — are going through. I certainly wish you the best in unbelievably trying times.
RV coming in
I wonder what ever happened with him fighting in the tunnel…
Piñata - something children beat relentlessly with bats. Piñeiro - .858 OPS against. Some call it irony; I call it destiny.
I missed that what happened?
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
Can't remember which game
Or which player, but someone knocked a ball out of Miles’ glove and it didn’t get called. Then when the same player got doubled off later, Miles said something and the dude went crazy. Benches and bullpens cleared. It took 4 cards to restrain RV and Al was talking like they were going to fight in the tunnel. Sorry I can’t remember names…
Piñata - something children beat relentlessly with bats. Piñeiro - .858 OPS against. Some call it irony; I call it destiny.
by thegodfather on Sep 24, 2008 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions
it was Mienkitwisc (or how ever you spell his name)
Delgado an MVP candidate!........seriously!? Wait Ryan Howard is now too!?...Ah WTF?!?!
by RunninRedbird on Sep 24, 2008 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Didn't he keep the ball from the last out in the Red Sox WS victory and try to sell it on ebay or some such?
Class act
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
Pretty sure it was
I’d forgotten about that. What a dick!
Delgado an MVP candidate!........seriously!? Wait Ryan Howard is now too!?...Ah WTF?!?!
by RunninRedbird on Sep 24, 2008 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
Minky, that’s it. Thanks
Piñata - something children beat relentlessly with bats. Piñeiro - .858 OPS against. Some call it irony; I call it destiny.
by thegodfather on Sep 24, 2008 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks - too bad Ron didn't go out there and damage a hand. . . .
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
whoa
let’s see the replay on that
and why is ww headed to the mound?
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
Dead in here tonight
40th anniversary of Gibson's 1.12 ERA, Think he could pitch in the bullpen now?
hey just got here, why is Pujols sitting? i miss him...
"I talked to Paul this morning and asked if he could acquire some chemistry from another GM whose team is out of the race. But I'm concerned chemistry might not clear waivers."
--Beane
by DyeLongJustice on Sep 24, 2008 10:35 PM EDT reply actions
He didn't mouth off and demand a trade. So he sits
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
I have a feeling
heads would roll if APu demanded a trade.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Sep 24, 2008 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
ya cuz if he did, he'd end up in the OF
"I talked to Paul this morning and asked if he could acquire some chemistry from another GM whose team is out of the race. But I'm concerned chemistry might not clear waivers."
--Beane
by DyeLongJustice on Sep 24, 2008 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
i think we used up all our days off already
you know, when we have like, 10 off days in two weeks or whatever
no kidding
so why are people freaking out about Pujols sitting in a stretch of games before a day game? Do we want his elbow to blow?
lol who's freaking out?
i was just worried that he was injured
"I talked to Paul this morning and asked if he could acquire some chemistry from another GM whose team is out of the race. But I'm concerned chemistry might not clear waivers."
--Beane
by DyeLongJustice on Sep 24, 2008 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
You gotta play your best guy
when you’re in the middle of a divsion race…
What? we’ve been eliminated? Oh, never mind then.
Delgado an MVP candidate!........seriously!? Wait Ryan Howard is now too!?...Ah WTF?!?!
by RunninRedbird on Sep 24, 2008 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Dayn Perry actually has a decent article on fox about awards
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/8600884/The-envelope-please:-MLB-award-winners
Sorry, I don’t know how to do the whole making a link thing. Anyway, he picks AP and Lincecum.
Piñata - something children beat relentlessly with bats. Piñeiro - .858 OPS against. Some call it irony; I call it destiny.
as he should...by far the two of the most valuable players in the game right now...
"I talked to Paul this morning and asked if he could acquire some chemistry from another GM whose team is out of the race. But I'm concerned chemistry might not clear waivers."
--Beane
by DyeLongJustice on Sep 24, 2008 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Thinkng of pets (peeves) anyone know why Barton is in TLR's house of dog?
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
its the hair
"I talked to Paul this morning and asked if he could acquire some chemistry from another GM whose team is out of the race. But I'm concerned chemistry might not clear waivers."
--Beane
by DyeLongJustice on Sep 24, 2008 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
according to Strauss
He is in the “orginazation’s” dog house. Joe would have said “Management’s” dog house if it was Tony. I was listening to Bernies show when he annouced it. I thought it was odd his choice of words.
what the hell
thye keep him on the 25 man all year just to make a place for him in the dog house?
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
I don't think they just give a place in the dog house
it’s something you kinda got to earn. I checked Joe’s chat today and didn’t see anyone ask about Barton. And I haven’t listened to the Bernies show this week. It’s hard to listen to it right now snice they fired Randy, Cards are out of it, and the Rams are the rams.
it's too bad
that we had to give so many innings to Jimenez and Flores (who has a torn labrum) before we’d give Motte a chance.
101 mph
Bad. Ass.
Piñata - something children beat relentlessly with bats. Piñeiro - .858 OPS against. Some call it irony; I call it destiny.
still multitasking
Motte was like a shot of triple espresso.
- Y.2.2
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - HBT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 24, 2008 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm going to drink some apple juice to celebrate that!
Obama/Pujols 2008.
by davethebutcher on Sep 24, 2008 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
good start
for a serial strikerouter
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
You kind of scouted his appearance on futureredbirds a while back...
Do you think his ball may appear straight on pitchfx, but when a batter is in the box they have trouble picking up the ball due to the short arm action, and the 98 MPH heat he throws.
I said he reminds me of a guy I faced back in College…. The guy’s ball appeard to rise and pick up speed as it got closer to the plate.
Think Motte has been poorly scouted, by all who thought his stuff was too straight?
I think he's thrown a handful of innings in the bigs
It’s unfair to assume that he’s going to pitch like this everytime he takes the mound. His command has been better than expected and the “breaking” pitch has played MUCH better than I thought it would. His secondary stuff still needs work. As teams get more video on him, he’ll go through some rough patches.
Don’t forget that back in May/June he was getting eaten up in the minors. Part of that was a confidence issue — he was walking a few more guys and getting hit hard. He hasn’t encountered that yet in the big leagues.
I still think he’s going to have some bumps along the way but the fastball has been about what I expected. It’s very straight but anyone with that much velocity can have a successful career (see Farnsworth) even with fringy secondary stuff.
I agree.
My concern with Motte is when he has to pitch to the Astros, Cubs…. you know NL central teams on a repeat basis. I think they are going to get on to him and he really needs a 2nd pitch.
I was just wondering if his deception was not accounted for. You know how Worrell is deceptive one would think. People don’t think of Motte as deceptive, but he may have a bit of deception based on release point more than velocity(which helps)
I think you did an outstanding job tracking the pitchers on futureredbirds.
to be fair
he has been pitching for strikes for a while now (after that issue – when perez came up the first time). he’s trusting more and more.
and now he gains confidence from a solid Sept showing.
last thing any batter wants to face, a confident 98mph fastball
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Sep 24, 2008 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh yeah, Motte attacks the zone...
That’s what I like about him… He knows what works for him and he is going to get beat using it.
Seems like Perez just can’t find the zone right now, almost aiming. I think the confidence thing is very important thing too. Chris has gotten knocked around a bit, and just does not have that attack mentality right now. If you couple that with the fact Perez has had control issues in the minors it’s probably not odd that he is going through this rough stretch where he can not throw a strike on the first pitch especially.
as long as he doesn't get all Tavarez-crazy
Can we include the ‘angry face’ on the Motte-stache?
- Y.2.2
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - HBT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 24, 2008 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Just wanted to let you all know
if the Cardinals went 3-4 over that 7 game losing streak, they’d be going for their 85th win tonight…leaving them 1 GB in the Wild Card.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 24, 2008 10:53 PM EDT reply actions
Excuse me while I go throw up
Piñata - something children beat relentlessly with bats. Piñeiro - .858 OPS against. Some call it irony; I call it destiny.
by thegodfather on Sep 24, 2008 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions
isn't that crazy?
after all the “we need to have a 9 game wining streak” articles, all we needed was to play .500 ball in september.
Hope we remember that next year.
"All I am saying is give Freese a chance!" -- nmstar
and really
by “we” i mean the royal “we”, the cardinals, IE Johnny Mo. For all his great moves so far, we were one LOOGY away from the playoffs…
"All I am saying is give Freese a chance!" -- nmstar
he does kill us...
But he is facing Franklin in the 9th. Tony im going to kick you in the shins next time I see you if franklins blows WW last game.
I blame Tony and Jose
Tony for making fun of his brother and Jose for making him such a damn good fielder.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 24, 2008 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Leadoff Double-Another chance for the bullpen to blow it in the 9th
Motte only threw 10 pitches, why not let him pitch a bit more ?
40th anniversary of Gibson's 1.12 ERA, Think he could pitch in the bullpen now?
Not s much the two innings, as the pitch count if you ask me
40th anniversary of Gibson's 1.12 ERA, Think he could pitch in the bullpen now?
true.... but they tried to bring him back last night after a full inning..
Can’t remember the pitch count
oh, missed that while travelling
40th anniversary of Gibson's 1.12 ERA, Think he could pitch in the bullpen now?
motte on the season
15 K’s — to 1 BB.
15 K’s — in 30 AB’s.
1 ER on a single and a chris perez meltdown…
FIP still not negative. WTF.
"All I am saying is give Freese a chance!" -- nmstar
larue should have done him a favor
and dropped that foul popup…
"All I am saying is give Freese a chance!" -- nmstar
So when Franklin walks the batter
can Tony overreact and bring in Perez to clean up his mess?
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 24, 2008 10:59 PM EDT reply actions
& we have a winning season!
40th anniversary of Gibson's 1.12 ERA, Think he could pitch in the bullpen now?
HOORAY!
I’m glad we were projected to do sooooooo well during the offseason!
Just think, we could possibly field a team with more competent bats in the MIF next season! Wouldnt that be outstanding?
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Sep 24, 2008 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Cubs take lead
over Mets. 7-6 in 10th.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 24, 2008 11:01 PM EDT reply actions
Cubs just scored to taek a 7-6 lead in the 10th
Milwaukee has life
40th anniversary of Gibson's 1.12 ERA, Think he could pitch in the bullpen now?
Cubs up 9 to 6 on Aramis 2rh HR...
I hate the Mets and Brewers…. Two teams that fired their managers like that was the problem.
didn't we go like 7-0 against them in 2006?
maybe we’re just paying them back…
"All I am saying is give Freese a chance!" -- nmstar
They could trade us Furcal
for AK with four games to go
Delgado an MVP candidate!........seriously!? Wait Ryan Howard is now too!?...Ah WTF?!?!
by RunninRedbird on Sep 24, 2008 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
No,
we want 3 team tie for WC, MIL/NYM/HOU and then free baseball.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 24, 2008 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
what the heck is wrong with the Dbacks?
79 losses, in that division?
Man talk about an underachieving team.
First team in history
to blow that big of a early season lead.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 24, 2008 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions
HCL you're up late again. Do you stay up to follow the games? Hell you should move over here.
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
It's only quarter to midnight here
the night is still young!
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 24, 2008 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions
the look on Carp's face
Makes my stomach drop. Yes, more opinions. As many opinions as you need, man.
- Y.2.2
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear." - HBT
I didn't see the game
How did A.D.A.M. walk that many D-backs?
In fact how have we walked this many D-Backs in the last two games? They don’t walk this often in a week.
He might have been hurt
he was struggling with control and they came out to look at him at one point.
Of course, that didn’t deter Tony from sending him back out there already at 104 pitches. I can only cringe at if Wainwright had thrown a perfect inning, how many pitches would have Tony left him out there for? If no runners get on base but it takes 17 pitches, would Tony have let him go 122 pitches?
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 25, 2008 2:31 AM EDT up reply actions
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