in a couple of years, we won’t be able to get nearly the return we could get this offseason, due to the fact this is most likely going to be his best year, plus he’ll be older and closer to free agency.

I live in KC and no one here thinks he is the second coming of George Brett, or even a poor man’s George Brett. He’s still young and could improve, sure, but maybe not. He is still sporting a below 800 OPS. If KC thinks he is untouchable they have even bigger problems. Moustakas is, at best, two years away…right when Greinke can walk. SS would be a better match for KC I admit but we don’t have any of those either.

anderson boggs and todd for zach…in a heartbeat…not sure that would work though. I would also part with craig or jay or anyone not named colby brett or daryl.

PMR has him as an average to slightly above average player for 3 years running through 2007. Unless he has dramatically declined this year, the numbers that Sky is coming up with are probably because of a) 5/6 of a year of defensive data, b) a “blip” in defense similar to what we see when players have “career years” offensively — or conversely, career lows or c) something in RZR. Without grinding into the merits of RZR versus PMR (they’re both good metrics, I’m a little warier of RZR but I’m quibbling) I’m not sold that Abreu is really that bad of a fielder.

… but spent most of the night coming down from a nice buzz I’d worked up at Llewellyn’s in Soulard. Therefore, any analysis I could provide would be impaired.

On STL radio lately, some wonder if TLR’s trying to make a point to management by running out these lineups. As far as Barton goes, TLR made a statement on STLtoday.com the other day about knowing what Barton can do and that he’s already going to be around next year. I’m still not sure how that translates into preferring Miles or Kennedy in the OF instead though.

At Dodger Stadium and he was hitting 88 and higher …in fact we even commented on how good he looked.
Just my 2 cents.

Whether Zito can even be an acceptable back of the rotation starter. His numbers in 2008 certainly don’t look like it.

That is why an honest appraisal of Zito by Duncan and the Cardinal scouts is critical in such a deal. If Dunc thinks he can get something approaching league average out of Zito, then the a deal might be worthwhile. If Zito is going to stink up the joint worse than Kip Wells and the like, then I am not at all sure how useful he would be. $10 million a season (assuming the Cards take on half of Zito’s contract) is a lot to pay a swingman\ future LOOGY.

Stud pitchers are nice to have around, but because the risk (severity) of an injury is so high— especially for guys in or close to their 30s is so high, I’d say if you aren’t in contention they are better used to trade for young talent.

The question isn’t if a team doesn’t need a Jake Peavy. The is what do they need more: Jake Peavy or what he could fetch in a trade. If you are smart about it a guy like Jake Peavy would get you his replacement plus a prospect or two. (See Mulder, Mark.)

he’s a player who has been injured both mentally and physically practically every season of his career.

It’d probably be more foolish to trade Ludwick than Ankiel, since we’ve got more control over Ludwick, Ludwick has been a better player and he doesn’t have Scott Boras as his agent.

he should be fired immediately

instead of bringing him back as the team’s ace that he has been.

he wants to change almost everything about how YP pitches. what other MLB team would do that to their “closer of the future”?? he also wants Motte to throw low in the zone as well. seriously. MO should seriously consider trading them before Dunk screws them up beyond repair.

for whatever reason Dunk hates pitchers with over powering high rising fastballs. Yp has that. Motte can have that. Cain has that. Adam does not. Carp does not. Loop does not. Lohse does not. The only one on the staff who maybe has it is Tadallion. can any one name a former pitcher under Dunk who had a main weapon as a high rising fastball? Matto Mo didn’t. Soup didn’t. Betty didn’t. Woody didn’t. i seriously can’t remember any pitcher for the Cardinals who’s main out pitch was a high fastball.

dont take my words the wrong way. i love Dave. Tony too. i am very grateful for every win they have given us fans. but i just don’t think their way of doing things works for the Cardinals anymore. and i really feel they are holding the team back. they just show little to no wiggle room when it comes to doing things a different way. and with the influx of new talent & players, that doesn’t work anymore. does it?

All I am trying to say is what I read a few days ago on here… Carp should be the icing on the cake, not part of the cake. He should be like Harden is for the Cubs. I think that the Cubs were fine before they added him, hence him being the icing.

44.5 M reasons why it would be. That is almost 15M the team could have used in each of the next three years to help the team. That would definitely pay for that impact bat.

Well, in terms of results AFTER the contract is signed, then yes, you can compare Carp’s deal to Dreifort’s. The difference is that prior to the deal Carp had won a Cy Young, been an undisputed ace for a few years, pitched a huge World Series game, and seemed to be healthy. Dreifort, on the other hand, was quite possibly Scott Boras’ all time masterpiece. The guy had only pitched 3 full years in the majors, never had a full-season ERA under 4.00, had only one winning season, and never came close to leading the league in anything.

while at the time it was an unnecessary extension, it was one given when everyone thought his health concerns were in the past. Mulder’s deal plus don’t forget his extension gave up 3 prospects that could have helped the Cards win then, now & in the future. that has deal done far, far more damage to the Cards chance of winning, then, now & in the future & while many will consider it Walt’s worst move.

a big question is, were the Cards able to insure any part of Carps deal? if so, it’s really not going to be that big of a hit to their pocket book. even if it wasn’t, it’s still not that big of a hit to their wallet. it’s still plenty fat & they will still be able to go get almost any pitcher they want. CC excluded because, well, the big 5 are going to give him whatever he wants & sadly we all know the Cards can’t do that & pay Albert.

what hurts most if Carp can’t be Carp, is the Cards will lose is his leadership & his will to win. he was almost Michael Jordan like on the mound. he refused to lose & let his team lose when he took the mound. can the Cards replace that? sure they can go get AJ or whoever, but AJ or whoever they sign to take Carps place probably won’t have the attitude, work ethic, leadership & the refusal to lose that Carp has. and that’s what i think will hurt the Cards the most.

making up for 1 bad contract to a starter by giving another pitcher w/ a history of injuries $12-15 M per year for 3-4 years? That’s imperative now?

why would we complain?