Game 156 Open Thread: Sept 22 2008
by lboros on Sep 22, 2008 7:30 PM EDT
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PrintArizona Diamondbacks at St. Louis Cardinals, Sep 22, 2008 8:15 PM EDT
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| Webb | Wellemeyer |
| 21-7, 3.26 | 12-8, 3.66 |
doesn't look too good for the dbacks; they're 2 games back in the loss column, and the dodgers finish out the schedule with 6 games against the two bottom teams in the nl west, san francisco and san diego. then again, the dodgers will be facing some very difficult pitchers this week: jake peavy, matt cain, and tim lincecum all loom, while the dbacks face less imposing mound challenges from the cards and rockies. it ain't over yet.
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Season winding down
I’ve heard a lot of chatter about just wishing this season would end. I, for one, will be very sad when the season ends. It’s a looooooooong time until opening day 2009.
defy, cards, defy. hey logic --- you suck.
1"
I agree. It’s a long, cold winter without some baseball.
by ccthemovieman on Sep 22, 2008 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Look on the bright side -
a stress-free October is in our future!
There's some fucking pros out there that wanna fucking play the game ... ... but you're stuck in the fucking stigma of the fucking Dodgers, and the Phillies, and the Cardinals, and all that cheap shit.
by Urban Pawnee on Sep 22, 2008 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Usually I feel that way
but the closer we get to ending this mess, the better.
It’s like your Michael Jackson tape collection. Yay, you liked him for awhile, yay it was hip to do so. But, yeah…he’s kinda embarrassing now.
2008 Cardinals prior to ASG: Thriller
2008 Cardinals post ASG: Silly Putty nose.
Just get it over with.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 22, 2008 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I would feel that way, too...
if not for Felipe Lopez. I just hate that guy. Of course, I’m sure he’ll be back next year…
Felipe Lopez - next year's Joel Pineiro
Why do you hate him?
He’s been a great hitter since coming here. I agree that he has no business playing in the outfield, but he’s better than Eckstein/Miles/Ryan/Kennedy in my book.
defy, cards, defy. hey logic --- you suck.
Woah
defensively? I can’t believe I’m going to say this, but arm strength aside, Aaron Miles is a superior defender.
I thought Lopez would be fine moving back to 2B, thus removing all those errors he made at 3B. Then he goes and makes a blunder in each of the 3 games this weekend. Sheesh. He’s like the opposite of Adam Kennedy, 0 glove, all bat.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 22, 2008 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Hmm
I didn’t really have his defense in mind, I admit. And I wasn’t around this weekend, so maybe I missed his true potential peeking through.
Still, even though the four guys I mentioned are fairly solid defensively—and I guess I should’ve mentioned Izturez, too, but I think my brain has blocked him from memory—I wouldn’t mind keeping him around. Or at the very least, I wouldn’t be upset if he showed back up.
I just didn’t understand the phrase “I just hate that guy.” There’s this perception that he was dropped from the Nationals, a crappy team, and therefor has no value. In my mind, Wellemeyer proved that line of thinking wrong this year.
defy, cards, defy. hey logic --- you suck.
He was dropped from the Nationals
because of his attitude. He was unhappy he wasn’t getting playing time and he had a history of being a bit of a hot dog.
The hot dog stuff carried over to St. Louis but he sure hasn’t had to worry about playing time!
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 22, 2008 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Because he's horrible in all aspects of his game?
Plus, he’s got an attitude problem.
Felipe Lopez - next year's Joel Pineiro
And...
he’s taking away playing time (or just opportunities) from young guys who might not suck as much as he has in his career.
I don’t like watching washed up veterans with attitude problems. I’d rather watch young prospects who play hard, who might not be any better (or even worse) than the washed up vets
Felipe Lopez - next year's Joel Pineiro
Its not his fault that he's "taking away opportunities"
Can’ blame Lopez that MO refuses to call up Colby. Everyone begged for Ryan to get some playing time, but the truth was that Tony was right: He’s not an above-average middle infielder. It was the mystery of the unknown that intrigued us about him.
I’m just saying that if you asked me to rank these 5 middle infielders that we have, I’d put them in this order:
1. Miles (vomit)
2. Lopez
3. Izturez
4. Ryan
5. Kennedy
I’m not even a lopez fan, and I don’t expect my views to represent those of the average fan. But yes, I was confused why someone would emphatically hate a player that has batted .344 in his time as a cardinal.
As for the errors… he’s played 6 positions since he’s played with us. I think anyone who got moved around that much in a matter of weeks would have some trouble.
defy, cards, defy. hey logic --- you suck.
After that pickoff
I take it all back. I officially jump on the hate bandwagon. :)
defy, cards, defy. hey logic --- you suck.
I really thought
I’d get flamed for saying that, but it’s something I’ve been looking at in preparation for this weekend. Kennedy’s probably been our 2nd best MI this year. Astounding!
what really shocks the hell out of me
is that I just spent about 10 minutes going through all of the MIF combos in the major leagues and outside of Baltimore and San Francisco’s shortstops, there isn’t single one out there starting that wouldn’t seem to be an upgrade over what we have out there.
Am I losing it, or is really that bad?
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
it is really that bad
I wish I could tell you that you’re losing it. The good news is that it won’t be that hard to upgrade it.
Schumaker CF
Lopez 2B
Pujols 1B
Ludwick RF
Glaus 3B
Miles LF
Johnson C
Wellemeyer P
Izturis SS
Drew SS
Young CF
Jackson LF
Dunn 1B
Upton RF
Reynolds 3B
Snyder C
Eck 2B
Webb P
I'm really hoping "Miles LF" is a joke
I mean, really, really hoping.
Kosuke Fukudome: $48 million .259 .360 .378
Skip Schumaker: $Free .305 .361 .414
Skippy needs a new publicist
don't get too down on the idea
look what RF did for AK!
by hex706f726368 on Sep 22, 2008 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I really don't think enough has been made
of the utter hypocrisy that is Tony’s lineup construction over the last couple of weeks. He has always implored his team to “play a hard nine.” He reamed out and then benched Brendan Ryan last season for not running out a pop fly or something, maybe swinging on a 3-0 pitch. Cards’ fans largely applauded this.
He has demanded, from every player, that they give 100% all the time. It’s a notion I agree with. Yet he has spent the last few weeks running Miles, Lopez, and Kennedy to various positions in the OF — even CF at least once. Does this help us win now? NO. Does it help us find out what we have for the future? Absolutely not. He is, essentially, tanking the last 3 weeks of the season. He is absolutely doing a disservice to the rest of the team, to pitchers who receive bonuses based on innings and wins, and to Pujols who is trying to win the MVP. If he doesn’t win, can we point to Tony’s lineup September lineup construction?
We mock it. We complain about it but nowhere does anyone call it what it is — tanking the season! No one complains about how hypocritical it is for Tony to expect 100% from his players and then to turn around and purposefully put an inferior lineup on the field. It’s justifiable if it’s in the name of playing younger players to find out what they’ve got. But that’s absolutely NOT what he’s doing. He’s deliberately costing the team games so that he can make a point to the front office. It’s w/o a doubt the most egregious transgression committed by a major league manager in many years.
It’s one thing to stink at your job — and many managers do. It’s another thing to roll over just to prove a point to the front office and more needs to be made of this.
like i said in the day post
he’s basically giving MO & Dewitt the double finger salute. and he’s getting away with it.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
+1
punitive act toward ownership if you ask me (qand if you don’t)
or
he really has gone off his rocker, andf needs to get himself one, sit on it, and call it quits
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
I really want to know where the STL media is.
They seem to be afraid to confront Tony on this one. Someone needs to do it.
what would you rather do?
yell about how much the rams suck, or Tony’s craziness?
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
I really thought corner outfielders were supposed to have power
what is this, the 1980s all over again, but without the speed?
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
Wow, Jason Marquis
just hit a grand slam against the Mets. Cubs up 6-2 in the 4th.
Go Cubs
Go DBacks
Beat the Mets
Win the West
Dodgers and Mets go home.
Then again, the Marlins blew a 5 run lead today and ended their hopes of winning the WC.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 22, 2008 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I wonder if he's pitched well enough this year to see post-season action, unlike last year
Presumably he won’t start if they have a healthy Z, Harden, Dempster, and Lilly. Maybe they’ll throw him in the pen.
by BTown Birds fan on Sep 22, 2008 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Right after Dan
says Pujols should win the GG the ball gets away from him…at least they gave the error to Welley
Delgado an MVP candidate!........seriously!? Wait Ryan Howard is now too!?...Ah WTF?!?!
Still no news on Carpenter
Paletta must still be on vacation.
What a joke the medical staff is.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 22, 2008 8:22 PM EDT reply actions
See, that's the spirit!
Maybe he will seek a different opinion out of impatience!
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 22, 2008 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe Paletta is part of a new LOST reality show
where 300 unsuspecting passengers of a commercial airliner are kidnapped and taken to a deserted island to create their own culture for our viewing pleasure.
I’m starting to like this idea.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 22, 2008 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions
That's our Lopez!
Such a fundamentally sound baseball player.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 22, 2008 8:33 PM EDT reply actions
welcome aboard bro
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
Damn, Rooney's sure not holding back in criticizing him
Not that I disagree…
by BTown Birds fan on Sep 22, 2008 8:34 PM EDT reply actions
I'd like to see someone
provide stats on players getting thrown out on the bases. I’d like it to be easy to find so that we could see how many runs plays like that one have cost the team this year. It’s probably no more than usual, or no more than other teams but it chaps my ass when someone does something that stupid!
The Houston Astros really are going to win the WC
aren’t they? After tonight, they will be 3.5 games back.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 22, 2008 8:36 PM EDT reply actions
If that's not a balk, Dan
what is? The hidden ball trick?
He stepped towards homeplate and then threw to 1st. That’s a balk in my mind.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 22, 2008 8:37 PM EDT reply actions
I think that's what he did
but umps never call that. I think he picked up his front foot and put it right back down — never stepping to third. If that’s what they saw, that’s a balk.
That's what I'm thinking
otherwise, a pitcher could step towards home and throw the ball behind his back towards 1st.
Which would be awesome, of course.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 22, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Damn Ludwick is struggling
I guess this could be expected, it’s possible that he’s wearing down. This really is his first full season in the majors as an everyday player
Delgado an MVP candidate!........seriously!? Wait Ryan Howard is now too!?...Ah WTF?!?!
More than likely it's
just a reversion to the mean.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 22, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
I’d agree that’s probably more likely
Delgado an MVP candidate!........seriously!? Wait Ryan Howard is now too!?...Ah WTF?!?!
by RunninRedbird on Sep 22, 2008 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Marquis -
just got another rbi. He’s up to FIVE tonight.
There's some fucking pros out there that wanna fucking play the game ... ... but you're stuck in the fucking stigma of the fucking Dodgers, and the Phillies, and the Cardinals, and all that cheap shit.
Wow
Didn’t realize Mark Reynolds had so many K’s. Watch out Ryan Howard! You’ve got someone challenging your record.
Delgado an MVP candidate!........seriously!? Wait Ryan Howard is now too!?...Ah WTF?!?!
*KO's
Delgado an MVP candidate!........seriously!? Wait Ryan Howard is now too!?...Ah WTF?!?!
by RunninRedbird on Sep 22, 2008 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Eckstein also hustles after
-missing groundballs.
-grounding out to SS.
-striking out.
-throwing the ball 4 feet, with a loop.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 22, 2008 8:49 PM EDT reply actions
If Miles shaved and smiled more
I’m not sure I’d know the difference. Management could’ve just trotted Miles out in an Eckstein jersey and told everyone he was still a Cardinal.
defy, cards, defy. hey logic --- you suck.
he'd have to dye his hair blonde to really pull it off
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
Just would like to point out that those that didn't get in on it
the Mets and Phillies are still giving away that last playoff spot if you are interested. The Cardinals said they weren’t interested, but those of you in Florida, Houston and Milwaukee still interested, they are still giving it away.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 22, 2008 8:55 PM EDT reply actions
iz would have to be able to bunt first
just sayin’
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Sep 22, 2008 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions
no kidding
has anyone actually seen him put down a successful bunt this season?
I do not recall seeing it happen.
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
very, very few
very few.
unless you count that chopper he hit a couple of weeks ago, which wasn’t close to a bunt, but moved as far!
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Sep 22, 2008 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions
LUD the DUD has returned
time to shut it down dude.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
Is it just me
or does it seem like only the good Cardinal players get hurt? Ank, Molina, Carp, Wainwright, Mather, and Duncan (sort of) all spend major time out of the lineup with injuries. Why don’t Kennedy or Iz2 ever spend extended time on the DL?
Delgado an MVP candidate!........seriously!? Wait Ryan Howard is now too!?...Ah WTF?!?!
not as dangerous
on the pine
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
That's what I was afraid of...
Delgado an MVP candidate!........seriously!? Wait Ryan Howard is now too!?...Ah WTF?!?!
by RunninRedbird on Sep 22, 2008 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Derrek Lee is a jerk!
It’s stuff like this that’ll make me want to pull for the Cubs in the postseason. Damn him!
Then again, Deadspins awesome post about Alfonso Soriano's
road beef today should clear up any doubt for you. What is that girl, 19?
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 22, 2008 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
As great as this is
it still can’t convince me to pull for the cubs…not sure if anything can, wait yes i am.
Delgado an MVP candidate!........seriously!? Wait Ryan Howard is now too!?...Ah WTF?!?!
by RunninRedbird on Sep 22, 2008 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions
no doubt
i’ll never pull for them. no matter how much they tell the world to vote Pujols.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
yeah, he seams to be a good guy
too bad he plays for them
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
don't remeber the details
but it seems that the marlins gave him to chicago so cheaply that you would have thought they were the pirates in disguise. maybe we should dress up like cubs and try to get ramirez this winter
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
weren't those all Hendry trades?
hire him as asst gm?
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Sep 22, 2008 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Hendry? He's good at spending money....he's also good at trades.
He’s managed to keep just enough useful parts at AAA too.
Nah. Not an asst. gm-give him the gm job. He’s not afraid of Pinella either. Don’t think LaRussa would scare him either.
She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.
uh, he was safe
dude never tagged him
gawd these umps suck
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
play at the plate
slow enough tio get the call right
amazing
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
Kevin, you have terrible taste in everything
a huge Al fan? and Mini Me? really Kevin?
i really hope Kevin is 5 years old.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
its already over they have more runs than us
no coming back from that
by bearcatcardfan on Sep 22, 2008 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions
You say that like it's a bad thing
Down with the Dodgers!
Up with our draft slot!
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 22, 2008 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
the truth is these line ups are tony’s secret plan for enhanced draft picks
tricky tony
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
yeah
’cause Tony loves them draft picks!
Actually, I’m afraid of ending up in the top 15. That would give them just the excuse they need to overspend on some guy like Garland or Brian Fuentes since they wouldn’t lose the draft pick.
Is Tony’s love for Fuentes the fuel he’s using to run those MIs out to the OF?
Lord I hope not
Fuentes sucks as anything more than a midseason fixeroo.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 22, 2008 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions
fuentes
probably sign him to play second base or left field
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
and have him hit 4th
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
So he's hoping for advanced draft picks
so we can trade those prospects for “proven” players. That’s Tony’s plan at least.
Delgado an MVP candidate!........seriously!? Wait Ryan Howard is now too!?...Ah WTF?!?!
by RunninRedbird on Sep 22, 2008 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions
yea
wonder if he’s advocating extending santa and trading the walrus?
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
Wouldn't put it past him
Delgado an MVP candidate!........seriously!? Wait Ryan Howard is now too!?...Ah WTF?!?!
by RunninRedbird on Sep 22, 2008 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
nice pitching, Todd
he has really come a long way.
I’m not sure how much good stuff we’ll remember from this season, but Wellemeyer’s performance has been a fantastic surprise.
i'm a big Tadillion fan
here’s hoping he continues to improve
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
Fraking Schumaker
how can you be so good at doing something so bad?
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 22, 2008 10:00 PM EDT reply actions
any thoughts on
signing eck to play 2nd next year, maybe a 2 year deal? should leave enough $ to get a real ss
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
you know what they say
you can never go home again.
there has to be a better alternative. there just has to be.
don’t fool yourself, the Cards have enough cash. i just hope they spend it wisely.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
are you suggesting
spending wisely (i assume you mean youth and potential) and satisfying tlr is something mo can do
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
at this point satisfying TLR's wishes really don't matter to me
i only care about what’s best for the team. sadly, that’s something i don’t think TLR & i have in common.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
In 2008, Skip Schumaker has grounded out
(prior to tonight), 84 times to 2B and 52 times to SS. That’s out of 304 total in-play outs.
28% of the time, it’s to 2B. It sure seems like alot more.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 22, 2008 10:06 PM EDT reply actions
Stephen Drew is a triple away from a cycle
Stop making fun of his brother, Tony.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 22, 2008 10:06 PM EDT reply actions
Carpenter news is out
The Cardinals team doctors found no structural damage or anything alarming in the scan taken Friday of pitcher Chris Carpenter’s right shoulder, team sources said Monday.
Which means, his surgery should be scheduled for sometime in May.
Still has a nerve problem in his arm and will see a specialist to try and figure out what is wrong in "what general manager John Mozeliak has called not a typical baseball injury. "
Sure are a lot of ‘non-typical’ baseball injuries going around this time this year.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 22, 2008 10:09 PM EDT reply actions
sigh
I marked the last game of 2008 on my calendar to celebrate not having to hear about the Mulder shit and now it’s going to be Carp.
It just never ends
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Sep 22, 2008 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Only 3 more years of Carp injurie worries though
Look on the bright side. I hate thinking about that, why did it have to be Carp?
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Sep 22, 2008 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
nerve problems freak me out
Lord i pray it’s nothing serious
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
so this is code for
they don’t know what the hell the problem is, right?
Like I said Sunday, don’t be surprised if he never pitches meaningful innings again.
Can the Red Sox lose their next 5 games
and give the Wild Card to the Yankees?
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 22, 2008 10:15 PM EDT reply actions
I'd support that.
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
Throw 16 balls...
Sorry couldn’t help it
Delgado an MVP candidate!........seriously!? Wait Ryan Howard is now too!?...Ah WTF?!?!
by RunninRedbird on Sep 22, 2008 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions
well not like kinney to dunn
throwing 4 balls is inadequate for a walk
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
so how come we haven't heard anything about Kinney being in the pen in 09?
how can they not think he’ll be a good choice?
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
if his elbow holds up
he seems to still have the good breaking ball
anyone heard if he will pitch this winter?
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
I hope not
I hope he doesn’t over do it after almost 2 years off.
Let him rest up and be good to go next season.
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
walking johnson to get to AK
not a bad strategy
by bearcatcardfan on Sep 22, 2008 10:29 PM EDT reply actions
rapuano
is he going to get in some kind of trouble with the league if he limits his strike calls to actual strikes?
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
yea skip
hit it crappy enough to score the run
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
Held Izturis?
Boo birds from fans indeed.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 22, 2008 10:36 PM EDT reply actions
what the f*ck was that
secret weapon has made some really bad “sending” decisions this year
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
are they really pitching to Albert?
with LUD the DUD on deck why?
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
yeah, i was just about to say nevermind
he’s going just as badly right now too
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
now we know
albert is off and falling in mvp consideration
seems the malaise that is the cards has gotten to ap too (or his elbow)
my 2 cents is for surgery- love to see what the healthy ap can do
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
damnit
damnit damnit damnit
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
what the hell is springer doing in there
he should be at 2nd base
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
i wonder if Tony will tell Ronny V
to treat Drew like his own personal tackling dummy?
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
do suspesions carry over to the next year if there aren't enough games
by bearcatcardfan on Sep 22, 2008 10:52 PM EDT reply actions
yes
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Sep 22, 2008 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
When was the last time
a player hit for the cycle twice in one season against the same team? Has it ever?
Delgado an MVP candidate!........seriously!? Wait Ryan Howard is now too!?...Ah WTF?!?!
Tip O’Neil 1887 playing for St. Louis
Babe Herman – ’31 playing for Brooklyn
are the only two players who have done it twice in one year alone, don’t know if either of them done it against the same team or not though.
just glanced through the list
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Sep 22, 2008 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks
Delgado an MVP candidate!........seriously!? Wait Ryan Howard is now too!?...Ah WTF?!?!
by RunninRedbird on Sep 22, 2008 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Would have been
twice in one month against the same team.
Josh Byrnes: PLEEEEEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE RE-SIGN ADAM DUNN!!
by DbacksSkins on Sep 23, 2008 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions
miles would have got him gee another walk
we bring in the Vloser in for the lefty and he walks him
by bearcatcardfan on Sep 22, 2008 10:58 PM EDT reply actions
way to kick that puppy
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
i'm not expecting Troy to have a revenge game or anything
i’ll just be happy if he doesn’t GIDP.
or pop up or fly out to right
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
so i've got low expectations?
see what happens when your expectations aren’t sky high?
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
doubled off second low?
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
sadly i expected that from Mini Me
but not from Troy. he should have known Mini Me ain’t got that much juice in his bat.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
What the hell was that?
Delgado an MVP candidate!........seriously!? Wait Ryan Howard is now too!?...Ah WTF?!?!
by RunninRedbird on Sep 22, 2008 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
?
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
Wow never heard this before
Can I get him off itunes?
Delgado an MVP candidate!........seriously!? Wait Ryan Howard is now too!?...Ah WTF?!?!
by RunninRedbird on Sep 22, 2008 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions
No idea
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
troy f*cks up big time
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
of course
i give up
ECK, can you please take the knife out of my back? k thanks
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
This team just SUCKS right now....it's like April-June didn't happen.
We’ve got a long way to go and a short time to get there.
mr peabody
has sent them all back to the batavia
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
i remember noting!
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
are you trying to equate tlr
with sargent schulz?
maybe
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
WORTHLESS
How depressing is it being you? Is it closer to being a lifelong cubs fan or being born without lips? - Janitor
If the Dodgers want to win the West they are going to have to win out
the rest of the season because the D-Backs are going to sweep us.
We’ve got a long way to go and a short time to get there.
This September has been a total suckfest -
between this team and the $#@#$ Rams!
There's some fucking pros out there that wanna fucking play the game ... ... but you're stuck in the fucking stigma of the fucking Dodgers, and the Phillies, and the Cardinals, and all that cheap shit.
At least the Economy is doing well ...
There's some fucking pros out there that wanna fucking play the game ... ... but you're stuck in the fucking stigma of the fucking Dodgers, and the Phillies, and the Cardinals, and all that cheap shit.
by Urban Pawnee on Sep 22, 2008 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
i don't know how anyone can care about the Rams
they really should go back to LA imho
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
you? obnoxious? noooooooo
heh,
i could care less about the no fun league as well. i only care about Big D & Big D only.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
at least the rams have a chance a t winning a game the chiefs are going 0-16
by bearcatcardfan on Sep 22, 2008 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions
lol
i can’t stand either team, but you are talking about the team that got its royal ass kicked by an injury depleted ’Hawks, lol
They both will be playing for a couple of wins this year, and frankly KC will probably do better overall.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Sep 22, 2008 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
is it possible that both go 0-16? who would be the #1 pick?
by bearcatcardfan on Sep 22, 2008 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions
technically yeah
they don’t play each other during the season.
and off hand, not sure.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on Sep 22, 2008 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions
It comes down to a tie breaker I believe
just like the standings but in reverse.
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
so a 4-2 score is not considered a blow out?
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
Watching Miles go back on a flyball makes me want to slit my wrists
Kosuke Fukudome: $48 million .259 .360 .378
Skip Schumaker: $Free .305 .361 .414
Skippy needs a new publicist
it looks like DUNK taught him everything he knows
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
Tony looks thrilled that he's in there too*
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
Tony is probably thinking about a Foghat or Blue Oyster Cult concert he is going to
We’ve got a long way to go and a short time to get there.
Who is that!?*
*Yes that was sarcasm
Delgado an MVP candidate!........seriously!? Wait Ryan Howard is now too!?...Ah WTF?!?!
by RunninRedbird on Sep 22, 2008 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions
no dp no dp no dp no dp
wow, Tony. that’s the smartest thing you’ve done in a looooong time
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
AL your feelings suck
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
Not sure about the longest but it was the worst.
We’ve got a long way to go and a short time to get there.
No kidding
3:15 for a 4-2 game? What is this, the AL East?
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 22, 2008 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions
1 game!
We’re now 1 game out of the protected 1st round pick spot in the draft.
Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me......with nothin'.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
i'm so tired of this
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
If the Cardinals don't win double digit games in September
THEN can they fire the manager?
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 22, 2008 11:38 PM EDT reply actions
I'm sorry but all this talk about Tony & Dave coming back
next season has really got me pissed. It’s like Groundhog’s day. We are going to have to repete the same season for another year. 2007…2008..2009?
We’ve got a long way to go and a short time to get there.
I would just like to point out to you
that should the Mets continue to suck at life:
1-2 vs CHC
1-2 vs FLA
Final Record: 88-74.
How the Astros tie:
5-1 vs CIN/ATL
1 Game makeup at home vs Cubs day after season ends.
Final Record: 88-74.
How the Brewers tie:
3-3 vs PIT/CHC
Final Record: 88-74
Three way tie for Wild Card.
That doesn’t even include the Dodgers/DBacks potential tie. If that happens, we would literally get an extra game on Monday of the Astros vs Cubs to decide if Astros tie the Mets/Brewers.
Then we get the 1 game playoff in the West and the 3 team tournament for the WC.
WOOOOOOOOOOO!!
I love anarchy and free baseball!
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 22, 2008 11:50 PM EDT reply actions
That would be fun.
But I really don’t see the Astros still in this…but who knows. Now that Yost is gone I am actually kind of rooting for the Brewers a little…I can’t stand the Mets.
We’ve got a long way to go and a short time to get there.
Oh, they are still in it.
5-1 vs those teams? That’s fairly easy. Brewers swept by Cubs? Possibly. Mets unable to win against two good teams? Yup.
It’s Gonna Happen.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 22, 2008 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions
True...believe it or not the Reds will be tough for them, Dusty has them playing
the best they have played all season….2 months too late though. The Reds are a better team than we are right now.
I think the Dodgers are in trouble. I think the D-Backs will at worst go 3-1 against Tony’s hijinks and will force the Dodgers to sweep the Giants the last 3 games to win the West…which they won’t do.
We’ve got a long way to go and a short time to get there.
Just so I know in the future.
One of the reasons that Rasmus wasn’t called up was to prevent his clock from starting.
So what does that mean financially?
How does that change things in terms of when would/does he become arb elig?
When would/does he become a free agent?
does one month move things that much?
i think
its six years he’s under control once he’s activated. fourth year is arb eligible i think. i’m really not sure though. i think if he puts up amazing numbers he can be arb eligible after two years.
Even then
if he puts up great numbers, I’m sure the Cardinals will buy out his arbitration and give him a long-term deal.
See: Hanley Ramirez, Evan Longoria, Ryan Braun, Jose Reyes, David Wright, etc.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 23, 2008 1:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Exactly...
which is why he wasn’t not called up for financial reasons, but because Tony doesn’t like him and he will likely be traded in the offseason…(IMHO, anyway).
Felipe Lopez - next year's Joel Pineiro
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