Yadi's worst season so far?
Many will argue that this has been Yadi’s best season yet. He’s clearly having his best offensive season, presently sitting w/ slash lines of .306/.351/.395 – all 3 career highs. He has 7 HRs, 1 off his career high and scored 37 times (career high) and driven in 56 runs (another career high). He’s also had a career high PAs and probably just coming into his prime at age 25 so maybe it’s not all that surprising that those numbers are better than he’s posted in any of the previous 4 seasons.
While his offensive numbers are superior to any he’s posted in his big league career, many of us have noticed that his defense seems to have suffered somewhat this year. The basic numbers confirm that as he’s given up 34 wild pitches (career high) and yielded 37 SBs (2nd most) while throwing out the fewest baserunners of his career (18). The position of catcher has always been seen as a "defense-first" position and no organization has embraced that philosophy more than the Cards ever since Mike LaValliere donned the gear. From Tom Pagnozzi to Mike Matheny to Molina, the Cardinals have always seen the position behind the plate as one where you could stomach a lack of offensive production provided you got great defense. If Molina has had a poor defensive season (by his standards), even w/ a distinct improvement in his offense, is he having his worst season overall?
First, though, let’s evaluate his offense relative to previous seasons.
| Year | VORP | BRAA | BRAR | RC/27 | OPS | ISO | EQA |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2005 | -0.4 | -6.70 | -1 | 3.37 | .654 | .106 | .226 |
| 2006 | -19.7 | -22.91 | -11 | 2.62 | .595 | .106 | .204 |
| 2007 | 9.4 | -10.51 | 8 | 3.96 | .708 | .093 | .250 |
| 2008 | 17.7 | 2.89 | 16 | 4.48 | .745 | .088 | .263 |
Strangely, his isolated power has fallen each season though he’s become a better hitter overall. He’s clearly a more skilled and polished hitter this year as he has routinely demonstrated the almost uncanny ability to guide the ball through the hole on the right side whenever we need a single. He has an .862 OPS in 126 PAs w/ RISP and his OPS is 1.036 in 64 PAs w/ 2 outs and RISP. That’s partly attributable to his ungodly .383 BABIP in those situations.
His batting skills have clearly increased this year which makes me think that his season BABIP of .316 may not be a fluke. It’s certainly above average which leads one to believe that Yadi’s been particularly lucky this year, but since his K rate (6.6%) is the lowest of his career, and the best in the big leagues, his high line drive rate (21.1%) and high BABIP may not be a fluke and may not demonstrate much luck at all. It’s reasonable to say that all, or almost all, of that high average is a result of a demonstrable increase in skill.
He’s still not one of the best offensive catchers in the bigs or even in the NL, but he’s no longer a distinct liability at the offensive end either.
However, at the defensive end, Yadi’s play has fallen short of expectations this year. To wit:
| Year | SBA/G | CS% | WP+PB/G | Assists | Errors | Fielding Win Shares |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2005 | 0.29 | 54.8% | .319 | 66 | 6 | 7.6 |
| 2006 | 0.55 | 41.3% | .278 | 77 | 4 | 8.3 |
| 2007 | 0.48 | 50.0% | .324 | 63 | 6 | 7.4 |
| 2008 | 0.44 | 30.6% | .351 | 69 | 9 | 6.7 |
Last year, Molina definitely deserved the Gold Glove (though the complaints about Russell Martin’s defense here were outlandish – he’s also a very solid defensive catcher). This year, he definitely does not. He’s made more errors and given up more wild pitches and passed balls per game than in any other season. His CS% is, by far, the lowest of his career. Some may argue that there’s more to being a catcher defensively than stopping pitches and throwing runners out – that their ability to call a game has a profound impact on pitching. The argument would be that Yadi’s game calling is, at least partially, a reason for Wellemeyer’s, Lohse’s, and Looper’s performances this year. Unfortunately, that theory was pretty solidly debunked in BP’s Baseball Between the Numbers. There is no evidence whatsoever to support the theory that catchers have a demonstrable impact on pitchers’ performances. So, by any metric, Yadi’s performance this year behind the plate (as opposed to standing next to it) has been the worst of his career.
I am not making the point, in the interest of fairness and due diligence, that Yadi is a bad defensive catcher. Quite the contrary. He is still one of the best behind the plate – and maybe THE best – but, by his standards, he’s having his worst defensive season.
Now, the theory is that the position of catcher is a "defense-first" position – that a catcher’s offensive performance is secondary compared with what he does behind the plate. In fact, in previous seasons, many Cards’ fans deflected criticism of Yadi’s performance at the plate by saying that his offense didn’t matter, it was a catcher’s defense that mattered. If that argument still holds, Yadi’s season has been a profound disappointment – a big step backward in his development.
Finally, let’s compare the wins that Yadi has added to the Cards over his 4 seasons:
| Year | Total WS | WSAB | WARP1 |
|---|---|---|---|
| 2005 | 14 | 6 | 4.0 |
| 2006 | 9 | 0 | 3.1 |
| 2007 | 11 | 4 | 5.1 |
| 2008 | 16 | 7 | 5.3 |
In terms of wins, this has been Yadi’s BEST season, despite the fact that he’s had his worst season defensively. He’s been a 5 win player this year, 2 full wins better than in ’06 when he was (indisputably) at his worst offensively and (arguably) at his best defensively. The short answer to the question I posed at the beginning of this exercise, therefore, is – definitively, NO – this is not Yadi’s worst season so far. In fact, it has been Yadi’s best season – 2 full wins better than when he was at his best defensively and worst offensively.
Most of you, upon reading the post’s title, probably thought: "Here goes HC again, with something truly nutty to say!" You probably all knew, intuitively, through watching 120 or more Cardinal games this year that this was Yadi’s best season. The numbers confirm it. However, they also confirm that he hasn’t played up to Yadi-standards defensively.
The larger point, therefore, is that even the position of catcher cannot be considered a "defense-first" position. Yadi was at his best offensively and worst defensively this year, and he’s added 2 more wins to the team than he did when he was at his worst offensively and best defensively. The bottom line is that good offense adds more wins to the team than good defense does and bad offense hurts a team more than bad defense does. Obviously, it’s great to have both – the Brewers, despite their strong offense last season didn’t make the playoffs b/c their defense was so poor. However, they’d have been even further away w/ good defense and bad offense.
For some time I’ve been saying that Yadi’s offense was going to have to get better in order to justify not playing Bryan Anderson when he became ready for the big leagues simply b/c Anderson would be considerably cheaper and that Anderson’s likely solid offense would provide as much or more to the team than Yadi’s defense would. This year, Yadi raised the bar. It wouldn’t have been that difficult for Anderson to be a 3-win player. It’ll be much tougher to be a 5-win player and the improvement Yadi has made at the plate gives the team the luxury of keeping Anderson at AAA for another year in order to help him develop to the extent that he needs to.
As the team tries to fill its SS position this offseason, there will be some discussion of re-signing Izturis simply b/c his defense is just that good. The problem is that it’s not THAT good – no one’s is – even at shortstop. He’s not that good defensively to justify his offensive shortcomings. Like the position of catcher, shortstop has been, since time immemorial, perceived to be a "defense-first" position. Hopefully Yadi’s performance this year helps Mo recognize that it will be ok -- in fact, it should be preferable -- to take a step backward defensively in order to get a SS who can help the team offensively.
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not to be flashing my bias
(must post before I lose power!) I do agree with this post, I’ve noticed that drop-off in defensive consistency. However the SB number makes me wonder about our MIs. I watched that last Brewers game and between innings there was Yadi, practicing the pick-off with Izturis(?) at second. Very smooth. Catch, tag, catch, tag. Next inning? Iz2 misplays the exact same throw.
Memorable since I watch a lot of the warm-ups and I’d never seen Yadi having to practice that with an infielder… correct me if I’m wrong, it seemed unusual to me.
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by Yadi2Second on Sep 14, 2008 8:30 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So...
…if Yadi doesn’t deserve a gold glove, who does? Isn’t it possible that Yadi’s worst defensive season is still better than everyone else (including Russell Martin). The sad thing is that his increased offense this year is erroneously likely to land him the gold glove.
by cardsfaninmass on Sep 14, 2008 10:11 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
On Yadi's denfensive numbers
I wonder if the stolen base % is where it is because the moderate base stealers do not attempt to steal off of Yadi any more, leaving only the true speed demons to attempt stolen bases. If the only attempts Yadi gets are against the elite base stealers then obviously you would expect less success – add in the amount of blame that can be placed on a pitcher… Same is true with hitting/pitching. If you only bat against tough pitchers your average will drop. Just a thought, I’m not sure where to look up who successfully stole against Yadi. Also, as far as wild pitches, seems like our pitchers have thrown a lot of 59 footers this year. I wonder how much blame to place on the catcher. Is there a wild pitch saved versus lost % calculated anywhere? I’m just not sure to place the wild pitches on the catcher, I don’t think there is enough data to suggest anything different on Yadi’s end. Also, you used wild pitches plus passed balls, admittedly the wild pitches are higher (his fault?), but the number of passed balls for the season so far appears to be normal. In fact he has two less passed balls this year despite playing an extra 138 innings over last year and has two less passed balls in 39.3 less innings over his “best” year in 2006. Just some Sunday morning musings while the headache wears off. I agree that Yadi is demonstrating some remarkable increase in offensive skill, I just argue that the numbers don’t tell me he’s having a bad year defensively, at least to me. Any thoughts?
by ajo080s on Sep 14, 2008 10:16 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Anecdotally
I think the pitchers have done a terrible time holding on runners this season. Are there any stats to debunk me?
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by Alxfritz on Sep 14, 2008 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wouldn't attempts per baserunner
or more specifically attempts per runner at 1B with 2B open.
If it increased this year I would say yes it is the pitchers fault.
Now where to find something and specific as that? I dunno.
by Harknights on Sep 14, 2008 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i was going to say the same thing...
it seemed like every single time some one stole a base the announcer said “he stole that one off of the pitcher, yadi never had a chance. im surprised it was even that close”
by bigmcq16 on Sep 14, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's why the 1st base coach has a stop watch
He times from the pitcher starts his windup to the time it hits the catchers glove. They already know the catchers general POP to POP time so the biggest variable is the pitcher. You’ll hear Al say “that base was stolen off the pitcher” from time to time and honestly there’s no way to empirically track Stolen Bases off the Pitcher vs the Catcher (from a Data Mining Standpoint).
Keep in mind even with the advanced SABR metrics there is still no real way to give a WARP value (or similar stat that combines offense + defense), however, I will still error on the side having a ave/ave catcher then having a good defense bad offense catcher….especially when you have 4 middle infielders named Suzie, Sharon, Betsy and Princess Consuela.
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by rocKStark5 on Sep 14, 2008 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
agree
also, at least 5 of the stolen bases have been due to MIF not catching a decent throw that would have resulted in an out. A couple of yadi’s errors were due to this as well. If a catchers throw bounces (as it should) and the MIF doesn’t catch it, it’s an error on the catcher, not the MIF, even if it was easily catchable.
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by SleepyCA on Sep 14, 2008 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also a thought I had
But I figured that to be just as painful to calculate as wild pitches.
by ajo080s on Sep 14, 2008 10:42 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Meant to be a reply
To Alxfritz above. I fail, preview button, etc.
by ajo080s on Sep 14, 2008 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no more iz2
with iz2’s offense being less than some pitchers, it seems foolish to resign him. we have several ss in the minors that would hit with iz2, play at least fairly comparable defense, and cost 1/10th as much. if we want offense too, then we need to take a chance on trading for a ss (greene, zobrist) or a sign a fairly risky bet FA (renteria or cabrera). otherwise i’m for plugging in ryan or barden and going after an offensive upgrade at 2nd, where more options for offense are available. my favorite is o-hudson because of his high obp.
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by sportsman on Sep 14, 2008 11:25 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
On yesterday's Mets/Braves game
FOX broadcasters were speculating that the Mets would be in the O-Dog market. Their reasoning: Castillo has worn out his welcome—but he still has 3 yrs. left on his $25M contract.
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by gocards62 on Sep 14, 2008 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
worse than ak's
nice to see we are not the worst judges of 2nd base talent
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by sportsman on Sep 14, 2008 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This could be the dumbest thread
ever posted on this Cardinal site.
Most teams would KILL to have Yadi Molina as their starting catcher. Please find better things to do with your life, especially on a Sunday morning. I say that constructively, even though it may not sound it.
by ccthemovieman on Sep 14, 2008 11:58 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wowie
I felt the notion that perhaps the Cardinals overvalue defense was valid. We have quite a few members of this years team who are offensive liabilities and defensively above average, which has turned out to be maddening. If nothing else I think the thread goes a long way to show that we should not sign Iz2 again. We should all be thankful for that.
by ajo080s on Sep 14, 2008 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which players fit the bad-hit/good-field description this year?
I count 2B and SS and nowhere else. The Cardinals have a pretty impressive offense, with four guys near the top of their position offensively (Pujols, Ludwick, Ankiel, and Glaus) and two more who are quite competent (Schumaker, Molina). In fact, by numbers I trust, the Cardinals have THE BEST position players (including fielding) in all of major league baseball. You guys seriously need some pitching (duh).
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by Sky Kalkman on Sep 14, 2008 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looks like someone didn't get past the title of the post
Come on man, at least read the whole thing.
The larger point, therefore, is that even the position of catcher cannot be considered a “defense-first” position. Yadi was at his best offensively and worst defensively this year, and he’s added 2 more wins to the team than he did when he was at his worst offensively and best defensively. The bottom line is that good offense adds more wins to the team than good defense does and bad offense hurts a team more than bad defense does.
by lightbulb on Sep 14, 2008 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This could be the dumbest comment
ever made of a thread.
Nice of you to not read the thread before posting.
by Harknights on Sep 14, 2008 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're right, it doesn't sound constructive
BTW, movieman, I wrote this Friday anticipating the Hurricane and have been w/o cable for two days. Right now, there isn’t a lot to do here, seeing as how most places don’t have power. We’ve taken in some relatives and are just waiting for power to be restored to most areas and debris to be removed so that we can get around.
So, as far as constructive things to do on a Sunday morning, we’re feeding relatives, playing w/ kids, and trying to ensure that none of my friends need anything such as basic necessities. Meanwhile, you’re offering “constructive criticism” on a thread you didn’t take 10 minutes to read. Thanks for your feedback.
by chuckb on Sep 14, 2008 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have no problem with the argument...
that this has been Yadi’s worst defensive season. However, I do have a problem with the notion that this is the standard by which the Gold Glove award should be determined. Yadi can have his worst defensive season ever and still be worthy of the Gold Glove this year. And frankly, I think he should get it if for no other reason than to deny it to him now would be a Pujols-MVP like shift of standards (denied last year b/c a catcher had a ridiculous offensive season and b/c Yadi is bad offensively and didn’t stay healthy). Yadi improved his offense and he’s stayed healthy. With no other candidate for GG outside some flukish caught-stealing figures, Yadi should get the GG. Hell, given the standardlessness of the GG award in past years I’m satisfied arguing that Yadi should get the GG just because he should have gotten the last two. D.GOOCH
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by GOOCH24 on Sep 14, 2008 12:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Half of Southern Illinois is without power today
as I’ve been told, so I bet we don’t get a lot of local visitors to the site today.
If anyone out there is recording today’s baseball game, I could really use a copy of it for my collection. Please let me know if you can/are recording it.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 14, 2008 12:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yadi's Comparative Defense...
While Yadi’s CS percentage may be the lowest of his career, we need to remember that his CS percentages have been ridiculous prior to this season. That said, Yadi is still fifth in all of MLB in CS% with a .346. He is second in the NL to Jason Kendall’s flukish .427 (remember, Kendall has been terrible at this for his career).
Also, along the lines of the VEB’r above who mentions that some of this might be a selection effect (i.e. only the elite bag stealers attempt off of Molina). Molina has had 51 stolen base attempts against him this season. Kendall, on the other hand, has had nearly twice that (89 stolen base attempts). Kendall has allowed more stolen bases (52) than were attempted against Molina. And as also has been noted, it can’t be ignored that, while catchers don’t have much to do with a pitcher’s ERA, they do have alot to do with a catcher’s CS percentage. As a mere anecdote, I’ve noted alot more this season, from my perspective, pitchers ignoring the guy at 1B that resulted in a SB where no catcher could throw him out. I don’t know how you would quantify it, but it’s a big unmeasured factor in the ‘error term’ of CS %. D.GOOCH
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by GOOCH24 on Sep 14, 2008 12:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Just as I expected.....
As it becomes more clear that we are out of the hunt, Tony will start giving playing time to the younger guys.
Skip
Lopez
Pujols
Ludwick
Molina
Miles
Barton
Thompson
Ryan
by SoonerfanTU on Sep 14, 2008 12:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Shame on him then
Brian Barton is a better OF’er than Aaron Miles, Nick Stavinoha and Josh Phelps and if he was only waiting until we were out of contention to play a better player…he really has lost his mind.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 14, 2008 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Uh.....
Barton isn’t a better hitter than Miles or Phelps. And he probably isn’t much better than Stavi, especially against righties.
When you can’t score runs, you often sacrifice defense for offense. I don’t know what is so hard to understand about that.
by SoonerfanTU on Sep 14, 2008 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OPS+
Brian Barton – 95
Josh Phelps – 78
Aaron Miles – 98
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 14, 2008 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Small sample sizes.....
On Barton and Phelps.
But yea, if you think Barton is a better hitter than Miles, this year, at this point in the season, don’t bother responding, b/c we’ll just have to agree to disagree.
by SoonerfanTU on Sep 14, 2008 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In the case of Miles vs. Barton
Since Miles was starting in the OF that means Kennedy is playing.
So it’s Barton vs. Kennedy.
You have to say you would rather have Barton than Kennedy.
by Harknights on Sep 14, 2008 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not right now.....
Barton looked horrible the other day at the plate. Swung through 3 straight fastballs that were not great pitches. Fastballs that ranged from 88-92mph. He missed ALOT of time, and didn’t get to rehad. He isn’t sharp.
And Miles started in the OF ONE game.
by SoonerfanTU on Sep 14, 2008 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Miles in the OF for one game
is one game too many.
by Harknights on Sep 14, 2008 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As much as I liked this season
What has gone on in September has ruined it.
Just about every game there is something that you say “Wait! What?!?”
Miles the OF.
Lopez the OF.
Lopez the 3B.
Kennedy starting way to much.
by Harknights on Sep 14, 2008 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not that hard to understand.....
When you realize the team needs the best bats in the lineup.
by SoonerfanTU on Sep 14, 2008 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And when you randomly decide
who is the best bat and who isn’t, it’s easy to make that argument.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 14, 2008 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So you are saying that
In the organization there is no opion better for the OF than Miles?
Kennedy is one of our “Best Bats?”
There is no one better for 3B than Lopez?
by Harknights on Sep 14, 2008 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gaining offense while sacrificing more on defense
is taking 1 step forward and 2 steps back.
by azruavatar on Sep 14, 2008 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
who are the younger guys?
Ryan and Barton?
How does one Sunday lineup = more playing time?
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Sep 14, 2008 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why is Ludwick in LF
and Barton is in RF?
Is something wrong with Ludwicks arm?
by Harknights on Sep 14, 2008 1:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They did that yesterday too
Tony doesn’t think anyone but Ludwick can handle the triangle.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 14, 2008 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Justin's numbers put Molina at a few runs above average defensively
http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pfk_WuYpfdux2FC_hs6ROEQ
I realize we can’t measure all of a catcher’s contributions with stats, but a decrease in SB% is actually only a matter of a few runs —surprisingly insignificant compared to the effect a catcher’s bat can have. Yes, I consider Mike Piazza Johnny Bench’s equal in overall value.
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by Sky Kalkman on Sep 14, 2008 6:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree
and that was really the point. For the previous 3+ seasons, people have defended Molina’s subpar hitting by telling us what he offered defensively. Now, his OPS+ is right around 100 and, with his improved offense, even w/ a falloff in HIS defensive play, he’s actually become more valuable to the organization.
by chuckb on Sep 14, 2008 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just running through yadi's game by game stats w/ wainwright on the mound,
since i think Adam is a consistently fast to the plate pitcher, hard to steal off of.
4/5 – no attempts
4/10 — 1 CS, no SB
4/16 — no attempts
4/21 — no attempts
5/2 — SB w/ Izzy on the mound
5/12 — no attempts
5/17 — 3 CS (1 cs w. franklin on mound), 1 SB (v. TB)
5/23 — SB w/ Franklin on mound
5/28 — no attempts
6/2 — no attempts
6/7 — no attempts (WW strains finger)
I’m going to cut it off there b/c I think it proves my point and b/c I am now tired of going game-by-game.
In 10 games started by ww, there was only one attempt by a national league team to steal a base off WW/Molina, which resulted in a CS. In the 11th game, Tampa Bay, whose familiarity w/ Yadi is limited, tried to steal three times, succeeding once (a fourth attempt against Franklin also failed).
I think the steal rate has much more to do with the pitchers. I can’t really prove that, more suggest it. of course, most teams will have fewer chances against adam, b/c he lets fewer people on base. but still, there are more bases stolen against the bullpen in these 11 games than against adam.
And i’ve seen yadi make throws this season that are absolutely heartstopping. his speed to 2b hasn’t gone anywhere. but if the pitchers aren’t keeping the runners on — and my casual recollection tells me lohse, looper, the bullpen, have not been good at keeping them on — he can’t get runners out. other teams know this, which is why he has all these attempts happening against pitchers who aren’t adam.
by tom s. on Sep 16, 2008 3:08 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah
actually, it looks like Isringhausen, Flores, Jiminez and Boggs were the guys who ruined Yadi’s CS percentage. Baserunners were 12-0 against yadi with those four pitchers. 8-0 against izzy and flores.
Aren’t lefties supposed to be better at holding guys on?
Lohse was decent (3 of 7 caught); wellemeyer excellent (5 of 9), AW excellent (3 of 5).
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by SleepyCA on Sep 16, 2008 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow
compare that to last year though- YM+AW in 2007 was 8 for 8. No SB’s against the yadi-AW machine in ‘07. YM+PK, 4 for 5, etc. In fact, if it wasn’t for Kip Wells, Yadi might have had a historically great season last year; runners stole 12 bases in 16 attempts off of that combination.
http://www.bb-ref.com/pi/shareit/Svah
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by SleepyCA on Sep 16, 2008 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Middle infielder effect
Not disputing the main point, but like others I’ve seen a few blown catches this year on Yadi’s throws. I’ve seen Izturis mangle at least 3 and Kennedy messed one up. That probably happens to some degree every year, but I’ve actually noticed it more this year. Early in the year, it didn’t look like he was going to throw anyone out. Perhaps Izturis caught on as the season progressed.
by ChrisK on Sep 16, 2008 9:13 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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