Game 147 Open Thread - St. Louis @ Pittsburgh
St. Louis Cardinals at Pittsburgh Pirates, Sep 12, 2008 7:05 PM EDT
A quick convo from the ballpark after the jump.
: Take this you smarmy internet reading buffoons. You thought that Thompson was starting tonight. Haha, I'll show you. Joel, get over here.
: Are you kicking me off the team? I haven't thrown since July but I understand that you wanted to keep the bullpen pitchers warmed up. It's ok I understand. [/pulls pay check out of back pocket, holds close to heart]
: Did I give you permission to speak? You're starting tonight. Go get warmed up.
: Wait a second. Wasn't I supposed to start. It's on the official site. You told me the other day that I was going to get a chance to start. [/kicks nearby puppy]
: Look. Too many people were talking about it. They thought they knew what was going on. I'm just doing what any infallible, world class, best there ever was manager would do.
: I read that you were going to start me in a comment on some message board today.
: Shit. . . .
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[Game Time]
Tonight's starting pitching matchup:
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out freaking standing
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
We're definately winning tonight
If only because no one expects us to, and we now have proof that’s how Tony works.
defy, cards, defy. hey logic --- you suck.
I applaud you.
Now, will Tony pitch himself into the 7th, having thrown 120 pitches, because he likes the veterans going deep into the games and getting themselves out of jams?
Go Cards!
Tracking the Cards' playoff chances daily: http://www.baseballprospectus.com/statistics/Cardinalspsodds.php
More likely he will "take one for the team"
140 pitches, 4 innings.
Bad Karma for Brewers
Home field was decided for any tiebreakers and the Brewers didn’t fare too well.
Milwaukee GM Doug Melvin, keeping his pledge to follow the directive of online-voting fans who favored “tails” by a 51-49 margin, was not so lucky. If forced to play a 163rd game for their Wild Card lives, the Brewers thus would have to travel to St. Louis, Houston or Philadelphia.
For a game possibly needed to decide the NL Central title, Melvin didn’t get to make the call — and that’s the only flip he won, meaning the Brewers would host the Cubs in Miller Park.
The GOB have determined that the Brewers will be sitting at home again this October.
I'm surprised they haven't called this like they did in Philly
It looks like there might be a little break, but then there’s a bunch more coming after that.
by BTown Birds fan on Sep 12, 2008 8:09 PM EDT reply actions
Not as bad as pirates announcers
“Jole Pinaro”
Obama/Pujols 2008.
by davethebutcher on Sep 12, 2008 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions
So.... anyone sticking aroud late on Friday for the game thread?
defy, cards, defy. hey logic --- you suck.
so...
anyone else think the Mang was safe at 2nd?
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
I'm going to say.....
safe.
Obama/Pujols 2008.
by davethebutcher on Sep 12, 2008 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I am going to go out on a limb and say
that I do not feel comfortable with Pineiro on the mound
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
what do you expect though
when was the last time the guy pitched?
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
nobody here huh?
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
looks like joel
may personally defeat tlr’s bullpen game strategy all by hisself
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
Morning guys. Think we can even beat the Pirates? Where would this season be with an
average pen and decent games against this awful team?
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
grumble
only the 400K mlbtv feed works for me. Anyone else having trouble with the 800’s?
"All I am saying is give Freese a chance!" -- nmstar
I was having trouble earlier
I tried the other video feed for 800 it worked.
Obama/Pujols 2008.
by davethebutcher on Sep 12, 2008 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions
FSN-P didn't work
FSMW-A worked
Obama/Pujols 2008.
by davethebutcher on Sep 12, 2008 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions
For some reason I had the urge to go read the opening day gamethread.
Brought back memories of the best day of every year.
/meaningless post
ESPN Management (CT): Umm…...what does this have to do with the Red Sox and Yankees?
SportsNation Jerry Crasnick: Management, Let’s take a break with the sarcasm, OK?
well
i guess it will really start raining hard in the bottom of the 5th
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
might as well
why should they even bother playing 9 innings?
"All I am saying is give Freese a chance!" -- nmstar
too bad
we couldn’t have given piniero for perdromo instead of reyes
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
Alternate pregame sequence of events
Thompson broke his toe kicking a puppy, forcing La Russa to start Piniero. The club will not disclose this injury, and Thompson will pitch in a couple days with a broken toe (when the swelling goes down), giving up 16 runs in 2 innings.
are you sure
the puppy isn’t pitching next?
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
well floppy
that accomplished nothing
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
first baseman pulled off the bag
luddy was safe.
darn umpires are dreadful this year.
"All I am saying is give Freese a chance!" -- nmstar
he'd probably be as good as mclouth
in fact, that last play really, really reminded me of duncan.
"All I am saying is give Freese a chance!" -- nmstar
hard to keep up with all the posts
batavia up 2-0 against jamestown
that jammer logo is the worst I’ve ever seen
just gotta
suck it up man and keep typing
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
how come their guys nobody has heard of are
beating our guys that nobody has heard of?
when’s spring training over?
this has to be so demoralizing for the players who dont suck...
both of the ones that are in the game tonight.
"All I am saying is give Freese a chance!" -- nmstar
We are just setting it up to pay them back for T.E.S.S.
ESPN Management (CT): Umm…...what does this have to do with the Red Sox and Yankees?
SportsNation Jerry Crasnick: Management, Let’s take a break with the sarcasm, OK?
good thing thompson didn't start tonight
or, you know, AW, since he would have been on normal rest today.
"All I am saying is give Freese a chance!" -- nmstar
Fuck the Pirates
They’ve won like 3 games in the past month, and they are going to sweep us here. I hate no other team in baseball more than the Pirates. Here’s to 100 years of them not seeing the post season.
by cloistermaximus on Sep 12, 2008 9:36 PM EDT reply actions
randy flores has a K/BB ratio less than one
i love it.
"All I am saying is give Freese a chance!" -- nmstar
piniero's line
la de da de da de da boom boom boom boom la de da de da de da boom boom boom, la de da de da de da, boom, boom ,boom, boom, gone
if they had pulled him in the first, his era for the game would have been mere 9
not now however
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
I see that
Herman Munster is owning us tonight…
Sheesh, the fucking Pirates are gonna throw themselves in front of our bus to keep us from leaving town…
"Crud, does that booger-eating spaz make me wanna puke!" - Tanner Boyle
tony should have started the weatherman, maybe he could have prevented this
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
Dreadful inning. . . .. But what do you expect with this line up?
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
Ugh
What are the Cardinals doing? It must be fun to give up.
I realize we have some injuries, but seriously? Piniero? Argh.
great quote by the pirates announcer
“once that ball got by lopez, it just wasn’t going to happen for the cardinals, defensively”.
These guys are awesome, though; they even manage to sound depressed in a blowout for the home team.
"All I am saying is give Freese a chance!" -- nmstar
practice is the key
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
Flores still blows Tony
You have proven our point…
ESPN Management (CT): Umm…...what does this have to do with the Red Sox and Yankees?
SportsNation Jerry Crasnick: Management, Let’s take a break with the sarcasm, OK?
Do you have proof?
;-)
"Crud, does that booger-eating spaz make me wanna puke!" - Tanner Boyle
by iron duke75 on Sep 12, 2008 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Looks like I picked the wrong time
to start watching the game. Yikes
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
not so much the line up this time
tlr’s fiddling won’t show with such a differential, but joel has really gone down the tubes
he wasn’t great last year, but holy cow he has suffered a major flush job this second half
feel for him, but it really sucks for the team
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
Funny how that works.
high BAIP = “tipping his pitches” (this year)
low BAIP = “duncan is god” (last year)
when BAIP is 90+% luck.
How is it Duncan gets credit for fixing Pinero but no blame for him regressing to what we all expected?
C'mon, now.
You know better than to even ask that question………
She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.
a system wide epidemic
batavia reliever Delgado gives up 3 runs in his 2nd inning of work, 8th, and the muckdogs head to the 9th down 3-2
too bad for the dogs
but at least there will only be one blown save in the system tonight
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
Anyone else depressed that our LOGGY cannot even get the LH pitcher out?
Duncan did achieve his goal, he destroyed what little FB flores had. 86.9mph, yuck.
Lefthanded one goodgraciousforfucksakecantevengetleftypitchersout guy?
gotten so bad they aren’t even LOOGYs anymore
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
all i can say is
they meet expectations
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
Wow, they are both showing the suck tonight
Really, LHB should make it look this easy off our LOOGYs.

"Crud, does that booger-eating spaz make me wanna puke!" - Tanner Boyle
by iron duke75 on Sep 12, 2008 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I feel like we may not win
another game in ’08.
Proud sponsor of the Official 2008 StL Cardinal theme song: "Beautiful Day" by U2
Go draft pick
My view is always playoffs or plan for next year. No sense fighting over 3rd.
if we could finish #15
that would be fine. Our top draft pick would then be protected. Not sure it can happen, though at this rate…
To make it happen, we’d probably have to finish with less wins that AZ and the marlins, with texas, cleveland and detroit also being long-shot candidates to beat us out.
rank team wins GB 1 WAS 56 22 2 SEA 57 21 3 SDP 57 21 4 PIT 60 18 5 KCR 62 16 6 BAL 65 13 7 ATL 65 13 8 SFG 65 13 9 CIN 66 12 10 OAK 67 11 11 COL 67 11 12 DET 70 8 13 CLE 71 7 14 ARI 71 7 15 TEX 72 6 16 FLM 75 3 17 LAD 75 3 18 NYY 77 1 19 STL 78 0 20 TOR 79 -1 21 MIN 80 -2 22 PHI 80 -2 23 HOU 80 -2 24 CHW 81 -3 25 NYM 82 -4 26 MIL 83 -5 27 BOS 85 -7 28 TBR 87 -9 29 CHN 88 -10 30 LAA 89 -11
Anyone know how it works if your team is tied for #15?
"All I am saying is give Freese a chance!" -- nmstar
NYP an old timer's league?
Jamestown Bottom 8th
Justin Bass grounds out to first baseman Xavier Scruggs.
Paul Gran singles on a line drive to right fielder Shane Peterson.
Kevin Mattison singles on a line drive to right fielder Shane Peterson. Paul Gran to 2nd.
Miguel Fermin flies out to center fielder Frederick Parejo.
Ben Lasater homers (1) on a fly ball to left field. Paul Gran scores. Kevin Mattison scores.
Ernie Banks strikes out swinging.
what i don't understand is why
we see has was’s like rv, flo, etc when we could be looking at some youngsters 08 is toast, no way round it
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
Jermaine Curtis with a 2 run HR
after the second out made when Jose Garcia out at 3rd, hit by batted ball
has any team ever had 3 players
hit for the cycle against them in one year?
"All I am saying is give Freese a chance!" -- nmstar
I doubt anyone's watching, but
what the heck are the announcers takling/bickering about right now?
defy, cards, defy. hey logic --- you suck.
well at least
kinney has decent twice now
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
sorry, looked decent
things just moving too fast tonight
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
i thought they called this came 3 hours ago?
damn,,,,
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
did Pinata even make it out of the 2nd inning?
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
4+
ESPN Management (CT): Umm…...what does this have to do with the Red Sox and Yankees?
SportsNation Jerry Crasnick: Management, Let’s take a break with the sarcasm, OK?
by Smokin Turkeys on Sep 12, 2008 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
barton caught that without his hat falling off
that’s good luck, i think.
"All I am saying is give Freese a chance!" -- nmstar
guess brian barden isn't a 2B after all
oh well.
"All I am saying is give Freese a chance!" -- nmstar
It's like it was some sort of sign...
I was just out walking and brought along a radio to listen to the game. But instead of the Cardinals game, I got some station talking about high school football. From Georgia.
Somehow for a while I got a station on 550 (Newstalk 550) from Georgia instead of KTRS. (I live in Jefferson County, MO, not the closest, but only about 30 miles south of downtown St. Louis). Maybe something to do with Ike?
this is just like the end of last season
they held on for as long as they could, but with everyone hurt, they couldn’t beat an A ball team.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
I was thinking the exact same thing earlier.
ESPN Management (CT): Umm…...what does this have to do with the Red Sox and Yankees?
SportsNation Jerry Crasnick: Management, Let’s take a break with the sarcasm, OK?
by Smokin Turkeys on Sep 12, 2008 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
he we come with the reverse T.E.S.S.
ESPN Management (CT): Umm…...what does this have to do with the Red Sox and Yankees?
SportsNation Jerry Crasnick: Management, Let’s take a break with the sarcasm, OK?
by Smokin Turkeys on Sep 12, 2008 10:36 PM EDT reply actions
what the hell was that "highlight" of LUD falling down tryinig to field a ball?
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
how fitting, AK is going to be the last batter of the game
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
Carp's done for the year, Ank's going under the knife
why does Carp keep having nerve problems? that’s scary.
what took so long for Ank to get his stomach fixed?
why do i ask a question that i already know the answer to?
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
Turn out the lights...

It’s been a fun year….let’s enjoy the rest of the season and watch Pujols win the batting title and oh yeah…root for whatever team faces the Cubs in the playoffs!!!
We’ve got a long way to go and a short time to get there.
I'm on board.
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
Ok Tony, we get it already.
You are mad. You were right, we were wrong.
Now, can we put the good players back in their right places please? The commissioner is going to call soon and ask if we bet the other side.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 13, 2008 1:30 AM EDT reply actions
Who are the good players left on this team?
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
Good point
then let’s just agree to play the bad players in the right places.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 13, 2008 1:53 AM EDT up reply actions
deal.
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
I wonder if Joe Torre is coing to call Bud
when Tony plays the AAA team + Albert for that 4 game series against the D-Backs the last week of the season??
We’ve got a long way to go and a short time to get there.
Tony doesn't have a choice in the matter.
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
Heck Tony might even bench Albert a couple of those games
to make sure he wins the batting title. But I doubt Albert will let him.
Looking ahead to the playoffs…anyone think the Dodgers can beat the Cubs? That is IF the Dodgers make the playoffs. I really can’t stand Manny but i would love to see him crush some balls over the Ivy against Big Z.
We’ve got a long way to go and a short time to get there.
Most teams project as better than the cubs
when the cubs are minus Z and Hardon
Space.
It's a problem we face.
So we never go anywhere.
We just stay in one place.
There's no way the Dodgers can beat the cubs without Manny and Lowe.
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.

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