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The End Of the Season

Here at the end of the season, I am very conflicted on what I would like to see happen.  Truthfully, Honestly, I do not think this team has it in them to pull of a miracle run like the 2006 team did.  The 2006 team had a lot of injuries that all seemed to be coming back to get healthy at the right time, right when the playoffs were about to win.  This year, the injuries keep on coming and the players are not coming back from them on any reasonable time table for consistent winning to occur.

At catcher, Molina is hurt for at least a few days after the collision last night.  That leaves career backup Jason LaRue and Johnson from AAA.

At first base, Pujols is injured, but playing...presumably because he is having an MVP type season and he would like to keep it up and win.  He also believes (so he says) that he will be back early next year if he has surgery after the season is over.

At second base and shortstop, the combination of Lopez, Ryan, Izturis, Kennedy, and Miles are all healthy.  /sarcasm OH BOY!!! /end sarcasm

At third base, Glaus is now injured, so one of the middle infielders has shifted over to play even more.  All we have left is Barden and he isn't playing.  LaRussa has refused, pretty much, to bring up Freese and/or Wallace.

In the outfield, Mather and Duncan are on the DL.  Ankiel is too injured to start.  Barton has been on the DL and isn't playing much since coming back.  That leaves us Skip, Ludwick, and a MI or Phelps or Stavinoha.  None of them are good options at this point.  I believe Jones is technically up as well, but he hasn't been mentioned much and definitely isn't going into a game any time soon...so it seems.

At pitcher, Carpenter is still hurt, he won't be starting any games for sure.  Waino is back, but is he at full strength? Welley has pitched more than ever before, ditto Looper.  Lohse is fine.  Pineiro is Pineiro.  Garcia's down for this year and next.  Izzy is done.  Tyler Johnson is done for the year.  Kinney is just coming back.

 

So you might ask...stlfan, what are you going to suggest with all this bitching and moaning?

 

My suggestion is to be done with this season and move toward next year, which is supposedly when we're supposed to be retooled and back on track anyway.

I would suggest to set down any player that is injured at all (anything somewhat serious) and allow youngsters and/or players that we do not plan to sign/ will not be bringing back finish out the season.

C - LaRue and Johnson

1b - Phelps

2b - Miles/Lopez/Kennedy

SS - Ryan/Izturis

3B - Barden/Ryan - I would also bring up Freese.

LF - Play Stavinoha and Jones.  We need to know for next year if they can play.

CF - Skip - we need to know if he can play every day and hit lefties

RF - Ludwick - we need to get good ABs from him whenever he is actually healthy.

Also bring up Rasmus (IF the team plans on him having a realistic shot at starting next year with the big league club.  If LaRussa has already decided he will be in Memphis, then don't tease him.)

Pitchers: I shut down anyone hurt or thrown way more than before (Welley/Looper?)

SP

Waino (if COMPLETELY healhty)

Lohse (finish out the year)

Looper (until he hits 200-205 IP then shut him down)

Welley (give him 3 more starts or so...until he hits 180-185 IP and sit him down - unless you don't plan on keeping, then throw him as much as you want)

Boggs (give 4-5 more starts after Welley gets sat down)

To fill in for those above, I give Thompson and Pineiro starts in the rotation.

In the pen, I see Perez, Franklin, and Motte finishing out the year closing and in the setup role.  I would sit Carpenter down and see if (once again) he could possibly be healthy by the spring.

Left in the pen are: Villone, Flores (and pull both LOOGYs once they walk the first batter they face), Springer, Parisi, Jiminez (bring both up if they aren't), Kinney, Mark Worrell (bring him back up in case needed).

 

I really just believe that this season is over and we need to get people healthy for next year.  I really have thought this over for days now, and believe it to be the best course of action.  I don't think that anyone (not just Cardinal fans, but BASEBALL FANS in general) wants to see a playoff team sport a lineup like tonight's (game 3 of the Cubs series).  It would not be good for baseball.

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Jones...

not on the roster. Is he traveling with the team?

Nick Stavinoah = John Gall

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Sep 12, 2008 12:49 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

is Robinson then?

Dan and Al were talking about everyone that was available to pinch hit and there was one outfielder’s name that made me think, “Really? He’s up? I had no idea.”

by stlfan on Sep 12, 2008 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

neither one

The outfielders we’ve got are Ank, Schu, Lud, Barton, Mather and Stav.

Also, Lopez is listed as an outfielder, but he doesn’t (read: shouldn’t) count.

by Phizzle on Sep 12, 2008 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

also

neither of them are on the 40-man either. The only position player available that isn’t up is Hoffpauir.

by Phizzle on Sep 12, 2008 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you sit Pujols, say goodbye to the MVP

We’re in a mid/small market and there’s already talk of Delgado getting some major consideration (even though someone here pointed out a great article showing why Delgado winning it would be a joke). If Pujols sat now, it had better be to get that surgery now instead of 3-4 weeks from now, because it might very well cost him an MVP award, and even with Pujols, we see how those don’t come around every year, even when perhaps they should.

by mtalken on Sep 15, 2008 10:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm so lame

replying to myself, but I had an afterthought…

Sitting Pujols would also basically take away my main reason for watching. Even now, with the season all but lost, if I know Pujols is coming up in an inning, I don’t even consider flipping around or going to the bathroom or to get a snack. I stay and I watch. If Pujols isn’t on the field, I’ll be honest in saying with a lost season, I’d probably lose interest. I guess if Rasmus came up, I’d probably watch to see how he did, but he’s probably the only other guy I’d specifically keep the TV on FSMW to watch other than Pujols right now.

by mtalken on Sep 15, 2008 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

unfortunately i feel the same way

i’m just pulling for albert right now. the team fought valiantly this year, but the only thing i really care deeply about for the next couple of weeks is albert finishing strong and winning that mvp.

by mattybobo on Sep 16, 2008 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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