Game 145 overflow I
by lboros on Sep 10, 2008 9:45 PM EDT
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Printprogramming this in the 2nd, as the cards make eleventy-three errors and fall behind 4 to 1. maybe lilly hurt hisself on that collision or sumthin'.
not that i'm wishing illy on lilly . . . .
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C'mon Redbirds!
Maybe this Overflow thread will change the course of the game!
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
illy on lilly again
it’s taking on a life of it’s own.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 10, 2008 9:49 PM EDT reply actions
Maybe Brendan Ryan
isn’t that much a better option than Looper.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 10, 2008 9:50 PM EDT reply actions
never under estimate the powar of BOOG
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
Skip's going to bunt, right?
I mean, he can’t hit Lilly.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 10, 2008 9:51 PM EDT reply actions
When Tony falls in love with a player
he goes head over feet.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 10, 2008 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions
damni't skippy
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
man
Skip is just awful against lefties
ESPN Management (CT): Umm…...what does this have to do with the Red Sox and Yankees?
SportsNation Jerry Crasnick: Management, Let’s take a break with the sarcasm, OK?
Late to the party
how many hours do we have tonight?
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
Anyone use Windows Media Center for Vista?
After the windows update last night my system just doesn’t seem to work right anymore playing videos
I havent used it since yesterday
ESPN Management (CT): Umm…...what does this have to do with the Red Sox and Yankees?
SportsNation Jerry Crasnick: Management, Let’s take a break with the sarcasm, OK?
by Smokin Turkeys on Sep 10, 2008 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions
it seems ok
ESPN Management (CT): Umm…...what does this have to do with the Red Sox and Yankees?
SportsNation Jerry Crasnick: Management, Let’s take a break with the sarcasm, OK?
by Smokin Turkeys on Sep 10, 2008 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions
alright, i'm going to go get a pizza
try not to suck too hard Birds while i’m gone
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
And just like that, the inning is over
All because WE CONTINUE TO LET A PLAYER WHO IS ABSOLUTELY INEPT AT HITTING LHP TAKE SWINGS!
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 10, 2008 9:53 PM EDT reply actions
prediction
Skippy provides another walk off hit of some sort tonight.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Sep 10, 2008 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions
ummm
sure, why not?
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Sep 10, 2008 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Yikes
just <50 pitches for Lilly, over 100 for Looper. yikes.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
> not <
sorry
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Sep 10, 2008 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions
wow
izturis and schumaker just suck so hard when it comes to hitting lefties.
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 10, 2008 9:54 PM EDT reply actions
bizzaro fact
before the game flores had an era .01 more than lilly
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
Hey Look, it's Flores.
Hey Look, it’s a walk.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 10, 2008 9:56 PM EDT reply actions
Jeez
do our LOOGYs always have to walk the first batter they face.
This is starting to get old.
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At least
the Pirates have tied it up with the ’Stros, 2-2.
Tony...he will never learn
its pathetic that a fan has to keep watching this
Jason Motte vs the Pitcher
This is like using a hand grenade to kill a fly.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 10, 2008 9:57 PM EDT reply actions
me too
but only because there is a runner on first
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by mattyfrommo on Sep 10, 2008 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
bullpen management at its finest
bring in the lefty (albeit a not very good one) to face a lefty batting .231, with the pitcher coming up next (also a lefty), and our lefty cant get to the second LH batter.
what would we do with competence throwing from the left side?
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
it might not be too long of wait
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by mattyfrommo on Sep 10, 2008 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
it better not be
scott linehan is a pathetic excuse for an HC
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 10, 2008 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Lilly railroaded him
with his knee up, drilling Molina in the groin.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 10, 2008 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Leg Bruise
shoulder surgery scheduled for next Wednesday.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 10, 2008 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
shoulder surgery is not the answer to everything
When is Ank having shoulder surgery?
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by mattyfrommo on Sep 10, 2008 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
In Ankiel's case
Dr. Paletta called in and like the my local police department, when he arrived and examined the area, nothing was found.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 10, 2008 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
lemme guess, you live in Akron?
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
Now that looked like a nice sleder
from Motte on the 0-1 pitch
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What does Gameday have as his velocity
seems way down on FSN.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 10, 2008 10:02 PM EDT reply actions
93 is as fast as Ive sen
ok, 94
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Sep 10, 2008 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
97 on that one
why is he throwing so slow on those other ones?
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 10, 2008 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
workin the offspeed?
not sure
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Sep 10, 2008 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
No Dan, if he threw 150 mph
they could NOT catch up to it.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 10, 2008 10:05 PM EDT reply actions
Does he really think they could time up a 150 mph
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 10, 2008 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
It would not surprise me if the answer was yes
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by mattyfrommo on Sep 10, 2008 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
FWIW
A 150 mph fastball would get to the plate in .41 seconds
For reference, it takes .61 seconds for a 100 mph fastball to get to the plate
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
it's the 130 mph changeup
that makes the 150 mph fastball truly effective, imo.
the ******* plane has crashed into the mountain.
ah, now
that’s the kind of sauce i want from motte
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
apple?
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by mattyfrommo on Sep 10, 2008 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
more sauce for dlee
gotta love it
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
Alright Abner
it’s time to show your ugly face.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 10, 2008 10:09 PM EDT reply actions
In 2004, Baseball America ranked Motte as the top defensive catcher
Throwing out 50 percent of would-be base stealers in 2005, Motte compiled 151 assists in just 171 games for his career.That is the one aspect of Jason Motte that people take for granted. He throws a straight fastball which makes it easier to hit but also locate. So he is power control pitcher with a catcher’s brain.
he is pitching
for a reason, and it is his bat
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
the thing that scares me about motte
is a pitch like that 90 mph something pitch that was way up and in to DLee. what was it ? a fastball, a slider? if it was a slider, how could it end up in at his head?
pops out to (insert infielder here) in foul territory
that’s really getting old fast tonight.
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 10, 2008 10:12 PM EDT reply actions
and the cards will fall into fourth tonight
what a shame.
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 10, 2008 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions
especially in the fashion that it happened or is happening
terrible defense & terrible offense against a terrible pitcher
by buzzburton33 on Sep 10, 2008 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
IT IS TED LILLY
FOR PETE’S SAKE!!!!
This is the most frustrating part. He’s so terrible and yet we can’t hit him.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 10, 2008 10:15 PM EDT reply actions
Biblical origins. Think of St Peter. Think of the omnipresent medieval church and think of hitting your thumb with a hammer. You can’t swear, else the local priests will have you up before the Bishop and the Lord alone knows what the outcome of that will be, so you exclaim, in appropriate tone of voice, “For Saint Peter’s sake” and carry on erecting the shelves. This phrase was amended to “For Pete’s Sake” in later, less religiously oppressive, times.
by madeintaiwan on Sep 10, 2008 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Go-go gadget google
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
The 1st base umpire has been fun tonight
at least he is enjoying himself.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 10, 2008 10:18 PM EDT reply actions
DUD
ted lilly would be undefeated if he got to face to the cards every time they ran his ass out there.
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 10, 2008 10:18 PM EDT reply actions
Primary Lulling phase complete
Auxiliary Lulling Phase initiated.
Kosuke Fukudome: $55 million.262 .362 .382
Skip Schumaker: $Free .305 .365 .416
Skippy needs a new publicist
long road for josh
hope he does well for that, if no other one
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
Not so easy
I loathe the Astros as a rival and am disgusted by the Brewers.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 10, 2008 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions
i am sick and tired of the brewers, their fans, and everything about that team. i have to admit, i would cheer for the cubs against the brewers….at least the cubs have a few real fans who would enjoy it. it takes brewers fans 7 innings to realize that they aren’t at a football game
by NorseKaiser on Sep 10, 2008 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
It came down for me
To snub the Brewer’s one more year of not making the playoff’s.
by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 10, 2008 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
oh god
houston by far. they don’t have ryan “asshat” braun on their team.
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 10, 2008 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I half exepected Josh Kinney to break his arm
opening the bullpen door on his way to the field.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 10, 2008 10:23 PM EDT reply actions
god
six pitches, six strikes, three outs.
that’s not been common this year.
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 10, 2008 10:24 PM EDT reply actions
that has to be his only appearance for the rest of the year
can’t have him showing up the rest of the pen
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by mattyfrommo on Sep 10, 2008 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Apparently LaRue got the memo
to swing at the first pitch.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 10, 2008 10:26 PM EDT reply actions
and the 2nd.
location of the pitch be damned.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 10, 2008 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, swinging isnt helping either
nothing else is working, why not just wait until you get 2 strikes, I mean, give it a try at this point
by buzzburton33 on Sep 10, 2008 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
re izturis getting thrown out earlier
sorry this is out of sequence (was putting my kids to bed)
this is highly subjective, but it seems to me that the Cards do a very poor job of advancing runners on hits.
I do not recall ever seeing so many runners not scoring from second on singles;
not scoring from first on doubles
and not even getting thrown out, just being held at third
it should be an easy enough stat to calc (for a guru) since its basically B-Ref’s outfielder throwing stat looked at in reverse
There was an article on that about a month or a month and a half ago…baseball prospectus I believe. It was essentially an attempt to provide a metric to rate 3rd base coaches….i don’t remember the details, but i don’t remember the cardinals being that far from league average.
but i agree, it seems like way too many occurrences for a single season
by NorseKaiser on Sep 10, 2008 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Huh?
Kinney’s fastball had 12-14 inches of “run” in to a righty with just 1-3 “rise”——and his “slider” had -3 and -5 inches down with 4 and 5 across. That’s pretty good stuff though the velo isn’t exactly exciting 89-91.
Kosuke Fukudome: $55 million.262 .362 .382
Skip Schumaker: $Free .305 .365 .416
Skippy needs a new publicist
was Kinney velocity ever exciting
or do I just remember incorrectly that the movement being so badass was why he was so good?
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by mattyfrommo on Sep 10, 2008 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
recollection
is that he had average velo, but good moving slider
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
I seem to recall more 90-94 in the postseason
Which while not “exciting” is a weapon
Kosuke Fukudome: $55 million.262 .362 .382
Skip Schumaker: $Free .305 .365 .416
Skippy needs a new publicist
Why did Kennedy get 3 at-bats in this game?
That’s inexcusable.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 10, 2008 10:28 PM EDT reply actions
To somehow boost his value in the offseason
So he can be pawned off the Hudson loser
by FlimtotheFlam on Sep 10, 2008 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
+5 million
Also…. I absolutely hate that hop by Soriano! Wtf man
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
one day he'll rue the day he every did that
mark my words
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
what do you expect?
we can’t call up kids who want to & can out preform vets who have clearly lost their ability to hit.
why can’t we? uh,,,well,,,ask Tony
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
they didn't earn it?
seriously, i am a bit miffed at MO too
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by mattyfrommo on Sep 10, 2008 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe adieuordie can ask his google arm band
by buzzburton33 on Sep 10, 2008 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Ok, that took 4 minutes
youre slackin’, man
by buzzburton33 on Sep 10, 2008 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
no, i haven't
but that pitcher looks scared. and why is the catcher holding the pitcher back? shouldn’t he have chased kennedy down and tried to hold him back? or did he just run right by kennedy to the pitcher? and how did the catcher beat kennedy up there before kennedy managed to throw his helmet off?
pictures are worth a bunch of words, i always say.
I'm excited about Kinney's return.
A couple of decent outings from here on out, and he should figure into next year’s plans.
by mikeonthecards on Sep 10, 2008 10:30 PM EDT reply actions
anyone know his contract status?
he’s gotta be inching towards arbitration, no?
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 10, 2008 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions
this is only his second season of service time, right?
he is a long way from Arb
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by mattyfrommo on Sep 10, 2008 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions
So,
Lilly is at 80 pitches through 7. Who here thinks he will get a shot at a complete game?
i thought that before the game even started
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
just like our Birds tonight, it's not bringing it's A game
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
Even though RV finally got the1st man he faced, why did Kinney not come back out
after only 6 pitches
so rv
could walk the 2nd man he faced
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
he didn't earn the chance
duh
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
lmao quote of the day
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
Game over
Jimenez now warming up for the Cardinals
Kosuke Fukudome: $55 million.262 .362 .382
Skip Schumaker: $Free .305 .365 .416
Skippy needs a new publicist
Even Tony doesn't think
we can score 3 more runs.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 10, 2008 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Well,
I don’t think it was intentional.
by cardsgirl95 on Sep 10, 2008 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Ronny V vs Hoppy
what could possibly go wrong?
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
this matchup makes no sense
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
Yes it does he's trying to burn Villone for tomorrow
Kosuke Fukudome: $55 million.262 .362 .382
Skip Schumaker: $Free .305 .365 .416
Skippy needs a new publicist
Which is exactly
why it works.
When all else fails, make something up.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 10, 2008 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
that is because you are focused on the wrong goal
the goal is to try to get the cost of every pitch rv throws to a minimum. for got was he is earning, but i suspect he’s making many thousands per appearance, maybe even per pitch
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
but it worked out so cool beans
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
Yeah, @ 3 straight slowballs right down the middle of the plate
I think that Im beginning to not like Ted Lilly. The Cards cant even make contact against this slop
by buzzburton33 on Sep 10, 2008 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
what is Crabman doing hitting?
as of yesterday he wasn’t cleared to do anything but run.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
oh, ok
i see. so i didn’t just see him K, he actually got a hit.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
riiiiiiiiiiiiight
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
I never saw Hrabosky, but unless he threw 95+ he needs to STFU
Kosuke Fukudome: $55 million.262 .362 .382
Skip Schumaker: $Free .305 .365 .416
Skippy needs a new publicist
that means stfu is the answer
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
neither did it
i have no idea why he’s defending Dusty
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
Because Al will take the opposite position
any chance he gets. Even if it is truly absurd to do so.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 10, 2008 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
gotta pitch through pain, dude
170 pitches? that’s nothing to al hrabosky.
the ******* plane has crashed into the mountain.
You just have to condition yourself
that’s all it is. It’s a mental thing. If you weren’t set up to only throw 100 pitches, 170 would be nothing.
Hell, you’d probably have to throw a sidesession after the game of about 40 pitches or so to get your arm alittle tired.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 10, 2008 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Ted Lilly smacked the Cardinals in the mouth literally and figuratively
and they’ve rolled over for him ever since.
Wow.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 10, 2008 10:46 PM EDT reply actions
If you go back and look at gameday
Motte threw two pitches at 93mph. I walked away from this game and didn’t watch but I’d bet those were “sliders”. Everything was classified as a fastball though. I guess slider @ 93mph = fastball.
Indeed
Just -1.2 horizontal and half the vertical movement of his fastball. The 94 in the middle looks like a cutter as well.
Kosuke Fukudome: $55 million.262 .362 .382
Skip Schumaker: $Free .305 .365 .416
Skippy needs a new publicist
If Ted Lilly faced us every night he would win the cy young every year
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
F#$% me running!
Ted Lilly is not this good
poor barden
september callup, and he gets two called strikes on pitches way out of the zone.
MLB umpires this year need to be smacked.
the ******* plane has crashed into the mountain.
it's time to go for the KO
give us robot umps!
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
Jiminez? Really?
Tony doesn’t even want to try in the 9th.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 10, 2008 10:48 PM EDT reply actions
Thank you Adam Kennedy
for saving Jiminez.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 10, 2008 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
wait...why would you ever thank Kennedy unless he was directly responsible for a win?
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
because that will never happed
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
or he's saving the others for tomorrow.
the way the offense has been playing tonight, why waste carp, perez, or… or… carp or perez?
As bad as Franklin is
Jiminez makes me want Franklin to come in a game.
Plus, he’s still got Brad Thompson, K-Mac, Springer, etc out there.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 10, 2008 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions
springer
was who i was forgetting. he would have come in if jimenez got in to a jam.
franklin… meh.
thompson… meh, kind of.
k-mac needs to sit a bit longer as far as i’m concerned.
Who wants to bet that if we get 2 on
Tony will use Ankiel, even though we were just told during pregame that he can’t fully extend his arms because of his abs.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 10, 2008 10:53 PM EDT reply actions
i'd bet the farm
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
Why is Dan all about the Cubs
winning the World Series?
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 10, 2008 10:54 PM EDT reply actions
Being at this game would make me say crazy things too
Kosuke Fukudome: $55 million.262 .362 .382
Skip Schumaker: $Free .305 .365 .416
Skippy needs a new publicist
here we go
lopez bloop single, pujols double, ludwick walk on 3-1 count, la russa pinch hit grand slam.
this upm is horrible
that wasn’t even close
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
you can beat the Cardinals
but you can never beat Albert F’ing Pujols
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
You are a picture posting machine tonight!
by cardsgirl95 on Sep 10, 2008 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
could you be any dumber Al?
of course we don’t want LUD to hit a HR
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
Ummm I'll take it
Kosuke Fukudome: $55 million.262 .362 .382
Skip Schumaker: $Free .305 .365 .416
Skippy needs a new publicist
100 RBIWICK!!!!
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
luddites rejoice
for the 31st time
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
Umm,
33rd time. Luddy didn’t want Albert to get ahead of him. It would be great if the two of them kept challenging each other as HR leader on the club.
by cardsgirl95 on Sep 10, 2008 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
SHUT UP AL YOU IGORANT MORAN
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
moran
b e a utiful!
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Sep 10, 2008 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I hear
that guy can mash
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Sep 10, 2008 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
make a splash Phelps
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
oh boy Phelps facing Wood's stuff for the first time
Kosuke Fukudome: $55 million.262 .362 .382
Skip Schumaker: $Free .305 .365 .416
Skippy needs a new publicist
Can we have a pinch hitter?
for someone other than a pitcher?
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Sep 10, 2008 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
that depends
are you taking the Colonel or Wagonmaker?
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Sep 10, 2008 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
just miseed it
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
crap
lost on unearned runs, floppy!
"No matter where you go, there you are" Buckeroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension
were they all unearned?
regardless it was a pathetic inning
by buzzburton33 on Sep 10, 2008 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions
cubs win :-(
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Sep 10, 2008 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
well, that stinks
I’ll be away for the next few days. I’ve got to take one of my helicopters elsewhere until Ike decides to pass over wherever he’s goin.
Hopefully my absence will be enough for the Cards to go on a 4-5 game win streak.
GO CARDS!
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
Wonder if they will call up an OF'er
or a 3B, take their pick.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 10, 2008 11:06 PM EDT reply actions
just think, if we had a real 3rd baseman, SS, 2nd baseman & LF
LUD would have hit a walk off HR.
yet another night of woulda, coulda, shoulda. it’s the theme of the 08 Cardinals.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
seriously
at this point, even I don’t care about playing time for brendan ryan. If he isn’t playing SS, he’s useless to us. Freese needs to by wearing a high 80’s uniform tomorrow morning.
heck, if I’m him I show up at the ballpark regardless and make them escort me out…
the ******* plane has crashed into the mountain.
That would be funny, but Id be willing to bet that Tony wont let them call anyone up...
I hope Im wrong
by buzzburton33 on Sep 10, 2008 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I bet we'd trade for
Miguel Cairo before we call up Freese.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 10, 2008 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
/sobs silently in agreement
i keep telling myself, self, HOF manager knows best.
the ******* plane has crashed into the mountain.
OK...
you keep on telling yourself that
by buzzburton33 on Sep 10, 2008 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions
well...
considering lopez doesn’t really play third base, and glaus could miss a few more games, who knows?
that would too much sense apparently...
but then you read this crap from LaRussa
La Russa said he didn’t expect the Cardinals to call up any more players from Class AAA Memphis. St. Louisan David Freese, a third baseman acquired from San Diego in the offseason in the Jim Edmonds trade, had a big year at Memphis but likely won’t be added to the 40-man roster. La Russa said he already had two infielders, Barden and Brendan Ryan, who hadn’t been playing much.“Who do you think has a better chance of getting a base hit?” said La Russa.“Barden had a good year. Ryan’s gotten base hits in the big leagues. I don’t see the need to stretch.”
Ummm…Ankiel really is too hurt to play, Glaus is dinged up severely and we have a third baseman who hit 20+ bombs at AAA while batting .300. It is sad that this team is too cheap to call up Freese. El Hombre and guys deseve a better effort from management.
in (front office) management's defense
why purchase a player’s contract if the manager isn’t going to use him?
why have a manager
that won’t use the players you call up?
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 10, 2008 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
well, we could just fill up a full 40 man roster right now
but what manager would use all 40 players?
larussa probably hasn't seen freese since spring training
he knows lopez is hitting like .500 in the last week though.
i blame MO
he can cut the trash off the roster & call up any one he wants. taking the power away from Tony. yet, he sits there, doing nothing.
why?
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
because there isn't a better option
for manager next year.
don’t piss off one of the best managers in the game.
when the best manager in the game
does not want the best playing playing, can he still be considered one of the best managers in the game?
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
best players playing
damnit give me an edit button! please?
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
knew what you meant
OK, so, lets just assume that both glaus AND molina will be out tomorrow.
what’s your lineup? everyone wants defense right now, so here’s you defensive lineup:
Schumaker CF
Kennedy 2B
Pujols 1B
Ludwick RF
Ankiel? LF
Freese 3B
LaRue C
P
Izturis SS
at what point do you put a better offensive player in?
Ankiel won't play
for another week, as we’ve been told.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 10, 2008 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions
i thought we were talking about players in the minors
to play 2nd, 3rd, SS & the outfield? like Wallace, Colby, Freese, etc?
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
but it all started with the third base thing
wallace in the majors right now would be hella stupid.
colby, i’m with you.
but i’m talking about what la russa has to work with right now, IF freese were to be activated.
i don’t like that lineup, and i have no reason whatsoever to believe he would get playing time over some of the other guys….
ALTHOUGH i personally would like to see him in there a bit.
got it? i’m kind of riding the fence, and that’s intentional. there’s wishing, and there’s being realistic. maybe i’m failing at both, but i’m trying to do a bit of each.
ok, i get it
i was saying if MO cut guys like AK & IZ2 etc, and replaced them with Colby, Freese, etc, tony wouldn’t have to put out a crap line up now that we have so many guys hurt.
if MO simply called up those players without cutting the garbage, Tony would not play them. he’s already said so. so if MO cut them, Tony would have to play the kids. his power of playing who he wants to would be gone. and if he can’t understand that the garbage who were cut are not better than the kids who were called up, maybe, just maybe he’s not the man who should be running the Cards.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
well i don't think there's a gm in baseball
that would kick tony in the balls like that. they signed him for two years, not five months.
fwiw
see i don't see it as an insult
i see it as MO doing Tony, and us fans a huge favor. Tony can’t help who he is. he trust vets, always has, always will. but when the vets are washed up, he still trust them no matter what.
well what if there were no washed up vets to trust? that’s all i’m saying.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
that isn't TLR baseball
and i don’t disagree with you at all.
but, you know, its all wishful thinking. we’ve had a pretty fun ride with tony, 2008 included.
yes, all we have right now is wishful thinking
all i want is the best players playing for the Cardinals. i don’t care if they are vets, rookies, or midgets in kids uniforms, i want them to put their best foot forward each & every game.
can you, or any one else for that matter honestly say Tony feels the same way? no. and if he can’t, then he shouldn’t be running the Cards.
i’m one of Tony’s biggest fans. but his comments today really bother me. yes, this season has been fun. most of the times with him here have been fun. but after tonight, i’m beginning to think it’s time for Tony & the Cards to part ways.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
Tony has whined
about not having an impact bat for several months to bat behind El Hombre. Freese made a big impact at AAA at might be able to hold the fort down for a wee. Neither Ryan nor Barden has done what he did at AAA. He would almost have to be better than Lopez at third. Yet when Ankiel is obviously hurting he keeps playing him. Something here is just wrong.
theres always the
preview button that will allow you to “preview” what you type in here.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Sep 11, 2008 8:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Keep Lopez at 3rd
he had a bad game but played well there last night. Put Stavinoha in left.
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
Freese may
be an offensive force…or maybe not…we don’t know. But he did kick but in Memphis and earn a shot. BTW, Rasmus could help too…just sayin’
esp if it's not that he doesn't want them
but that he’s unable to tell which are the best.
the ******* plane has crashed into the mountain.
freese wasn't even in big league camp in the spring
nor was craig. something I felt was absurd at the time, and relevant to the current discussion.
the ******* plane has crashed into the mountain.
And Izturis was making a lot of errors
similar to the ones he made tonight.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 10, 2008 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions
the deadspin comments for that one
were priceless.
"All I am saying is give Freese a chance!" -- nmstar
"I don't see the need to stretch"
that is exactly why TLR frustrates me. Who is more likely to get a hit? I’d guess they {freese, barden, ryan} are about even. Lopez maybe a bit more likely.
Who has the potential to put the team on his back and carry them into the playoffs? Not Brendan Ryan, much as I love the kid. He’s a better SS than izturis and cheap, but Freese could hit 4 or 5 home runs in September. You have to make that call, mo; if it doesn’t work out, it doesn’t work out, but you gotta frigging try.
the ******* plane has crashed into the mountain.
Not only that
but with Wallace and Craig breathing down his neck, wouldn’t it be prudent to see if David Freese can hit Major League pitching?
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 10, 2008 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
tony likes to keep his bench players fresh
we all know that.
the more bench players he has, though, the harder it is to keep them all fresh.
i’m in the add freese camp, because i’d like to see him play a game or two while glaus is out, but i also get tony’s reluctance to crowd the dugout.
It's really sad...
that the organization would purposely hinder a shot at the playoffs because it’s worried about a guy accumulating service time. Is that really the case? Or is it the pro-rated league minimum that would break the bank?
could understand it with rasmus
freese, no. craig, no, They are both too old for it to really matter, and are likely to be traded before arbitration is a concern. With those two it’s a matter of paying $50K to have them on the roster and potentially damping their trade value a bit- but if they perform, it could boost that value through the roof.
From a cost-benefit standpoint, I think it’s open-shut. The only reason NOT to bring one of them up is because the org has no confidence in them. Show some confidence in your kids, Mo!
the ******* plane has crashed into the mountain.
Actually it should read more like...
Dear Cardinals,
Too bad about Glaus’ shoulder. Looks like it cost you a game in the standings tonight. Sorry to keep screwing you over with injuries like this. We’re not picking on you…really.
Our most sincere condolences,
Baseball Gods
P.S. here's another one-run loss
in this case we gave Luddy a lucky HR to give you false hope, hehe. Consider yourselves lucky; at least he got that 100 RBI monkey off his back.
And if you make it to the post-season, we’ll owe ya some.
Good Luck!
the ******* plane has crashed into the mountain.
screw the gobs
if i could get away with posting a pic of a double finger solute to those bastard coated bastards with bastard filling, i’d do it.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
I would be willing to chance you getting banned
just to see that. It would be awesome
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
How many keystone cop innings has that been this year, seems like alot
…………………………………..cue adieuordie pic
by buzzburton33 on Sep 10, 2008 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Ummmmm, ok?
I guess that arm band is overheating, but the Ron Villone effort is appreciated. Youve just set my expectations so high
by buzzburton33 on Sep 10, 2008 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
dont see how we can make 'a run'
with half the lineup outto quote Herzog at a similarly depleted point late in his tenure
“If I played this lineup in spring training, the other team would complain I didn’t bring enough of my stars”
I've always wondered if anyone has two VEB user names and uses them to argue with each other
I always look in arguments to see if someone argues against himself (or herself) in the mistake that he/she didn’t switch over user names. Anyone else do this?
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
no.
it’s just you.
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
No, that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard
What kind of loser would do that?
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
whoever he is, he's a tool
ban him.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
My words of the night
Betrayed
Braden Looper was betrayed tonight. Mostly by his defense in the 2nd inning but also by his offense which did absolutely nothing. Which brings me to…….
Mesmerized
Why were the Cardinal hitters mesmerized by Ted Lilly’s fastball? He really didn’t have another pitch, yet I saw late swings and confusion all night. They didn’t seem to struggle against Kerry Wood, yet Ted Lilly was mesmerizing. Which brings me to…….
Deserved
Even though I consider myself of an old school mentality and don’t get too worked up when a pitcher evens a score against a hitter with either some chin music or a fastball to the hip, tonight Ted Lilly deserved a Jason Motte 99 mph fastball somewhere fleshy. I have never seen a player beg more to be hit by a pitch. Ever. Finally……..
Lottery
Everyone in attendance of the game tonight should buy a lottery ticket. We just saw a bullpen of Randy Flores, Ron Villone, and Kelvin Jimenez not give up a hit.
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
Well said
and tonight is definitely a good night for a lotto ticket after that relief corps miracle
by buzzburton33 on Sep 10, 2008 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions
poor Yadda, i can't understand a thing he's saying
they asked him about lilly pad hitting him in the family jewels on the post game, and i think he blamed himself for not being ready for the hit. but i’m not sure.
i do know one thing, he’s pissed about it. that’s for damn sure.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
his english
gets worse when he doesn’t want to talk to reporters.
i noticed that a couple years ago, and it hasn’t really changed since then.
thats what I thought
when i saw it, I was thinking no way he though Lilly would lower the shoulder. Totally caught him off guard or else Lilly would have gotten the worse of that. But you never turn your back on a psychopath like Lilly. That’s not Greg Maddux coming down the line.
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
here's some good news
Carlos Pena just gave the Devil Rays the lead in bean town by hitting a HR in the monster seats. it’s now 2-1 top 14
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
C R A P
the Rays get a 4-1 lead, now Percy is trying to give it all back. he’s leaving the mound with the bases loaded & no outs. looks like he’s hurt again.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
motte's facial hair >> youkilis's
youk just looks silly.
"All I am saying is give Freese a chance!" -- nmstar
It's the baldness
If he had hair it’d be badass but yeah he looks like an idiot with that.
Kosuke Fukudome: $55 million.262 .362 .382
Skip Schumaker: $Free .305 .365 .416
Skippy needs a new publicist
how much would life rock if we had an edit button?
just sayin
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
I'd be afraid I'd somehow break
him, knowing his luck.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 11, 2008 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions
maybe he has the same tapeworm aram had?
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
D Rays win 4-2
maybe, just maybe there is some justice in this world after all
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
hate you guys with fast connections
i’m still thinking about the cute redhead in the green shirt.
"All I am saying is give Freese a chance!" -- nmstar
my next job will be in boston
this california crap sucks. Boo, blondes, yay, redheads.
Go rays, though. I love that team.
"All I am saying is give Freese a chance!" -- nmstar
+a bunch
on yay redheads.
i like blondes too.
blondes not bomds
redheads not warheads
its gotta be brunettes not figher jets
when will the governments realize, its got to be funky sexy ladies?
I'm redheaded, but you wouldn't like me
the reason I’m commenting, is because growing up a redhead kinda sucks. Especially if you’re a boy. You stand out everywhere and tend to get picked on. Then all of a sudden you go to college and you realize there are girls out there who REALLY LIKE REDHEADS.
And we all live happily ever after….
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
wait, what?
where do these women live who like redheaded guys? because i’ve never met one.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
I've met a bunch!
but they might not like redheads anymore…..
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
They only like gingers
Not daywalkers
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
btw, i'm in chicago.
maybe that helps? I don’t know why it would, but as they say….location, location, location.
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
yet more proof that ohio sucks
but that still doesn’t make me want to visit the windy city
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
it's got its benefits.
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
my dad spent 3 + years working there
he always referred to it as “doing time”. couple that with a never ending supply of flub supporters, and i just can’t make myself take a trek up there. i’ve always been told it’s an amazing city. but i don’t know if i’ll ever find that out for myself.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
speaking of Brad Thompson...
where is he?
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
good question
i think because there haven’t been any blow outs or emergency starts the past couple weeks he’s taken up residence in Tony’s dog house.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
I think he was holding
Kelvin Jiminez’s jacket.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 11, 2008 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions
DTV EI is awesome
every time i say that i feel dirty
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
I saw him have a fist pump last night
I didn’t know he wasn’t a robot.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 11, 2008 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions
dude, that pic is kind of creeping me out
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
That guy lookskinda like Joe Paterno
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
HA!
he does!
Maybe thats how he’s been doing it all these years.
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
I was just googling around for funny pics and ran across this
I can’t explain it, nor do I think I want to understand it enough to be able to explain it…..
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
Manny just went deep in San Diego
after the first place ump blew a call that should have ended the inning.
these umps must be stopped!
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
First place ump?
What a frontrunner that guy is.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 11, 2008 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions
my kingdom for an edit button!
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
insert
bad sportscenter “umpire fantasy league” joke that got laughs the first time.
but the twenty times since? no, jon anderson, it isn’t funny, you idiot.
what did I tell you about that limerick...?
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