Game 119 Open Thread- 9th August, 2008
by the red baron on Aug 9, 2008 2:43 PM EDT
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Wellemeyer Zambrano
8-4, 4.01 12-4, 2.76
See now the Colonel
Building steam, forging ahead
Comes to take Wrigley
An old nemesis
Returns to torture the 'Birds
Not a must win, but...
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Lineup per Bernie:
Schumaker 8
Kennedy 4
Pujols 3
Ludwick 9
Lopez 7
Glaus 5
Molina 2
Wellemeyer 1
Miles 6
-B
Lopez hitting 5th, still no Rick….Many franklins early in the day today.
by RiverRat on Aug 9, 2008 2:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I've wasted so many brain cycles trying to figure out TLR's lineups
I’m just giving up.
by random on Aug 9, 2008 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
TLR
I have noticed he likes to play certain matchups he thinks hitters will hit well. That’s why guys like Lopez and Kennedy get playing time because they have ‘success’ against opposing pitchers. Whether these matchups are true or not is up for debate.
by 916baller on Aug 9, 2008 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOPEZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111!!!!!!!!!!!
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
by Mr Redbird on Aug 9, 2008 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gotta be fucking kidding me
"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA
by joker24 on Aug 9, 2008 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No Aniel still?
This org manages a roster like an asshole.
My fellow Americans. As a young boy, I dreamed of being a baseball, but tonight I say, we must move forward, not backward, upward not forward, and always twirling, twirling, twirling towards freedom.
by Alxfritz on Aug 9, 2008 2:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ankiel, damn it
My fellow Americans. As a young boy, I dreamed of being a baseball, but tonight I say, we must move forward, not backward, upward not forward, and always twirling, twirling, twirling towards freedom.
by Alxfritz on Aug 9, 2008 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
how does one manage
his butthole?
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
by punchinjudy on Aug 9, 2008 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wipes it clean?
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
by Mr Redbird on Aug 9, 2008 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have really been looking forward to this weekend
but this just makes me sick….WTH is the love affair with Lopez.
by RiverRat on Aug 9, 2008 2:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
and why is he in the outfield still play him at SHORTSTOP AT LEAST PLEASE!!!!!
by doug_4409 on Aug 9, 2008 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
never have been so discouraged
1 hour before gametime
by doug_4409 on Aug 9, 2008 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The kast time i was
was Wed and we won that one.
My fellow Americans. As a young boy, I dreamed of being a baseball, but tonight I say, we must move forward, not backward, upward not forward, and always twirling, twirling, twirling towards freedom.
by Alxfritz on Aug 9, 2008 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he supposedly has played
a few OF games…mayeb in hs or something
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
by punchinjudy on Aug 9, 2008 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
7.....7 freaking games in LF and he's now apparently ahead of Mather
on the depth chart.
by RiverRat on Aug 9, 2008 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the same mather who seems
to be hitting well..the logic thing is to sit them..because then they become hot and then you cant send them back down.
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
by punchinjudy on Aug 9, 2008 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm playing MLB2k8 last night
Waino cruisng alon in WA and all the sudden his back goes out. So I bring in welley fro 2 innings of releif. and some shawn marshal who itraded kennedy for him and fontneot. Then the 9th comes im up 5-1. I had switched b4 yhis game to pro cause winning 24-5 wasnt cool. So i bring in a guy i traded loop for and he sucks it up..long story short.. i bring in Izzy up 5-4 2 guys on one out…he loads the baes. I eventually lose 6-5…yup my pen gave up 5 runs in the 9th..I can’t even escape the pen woes on XBOX..haha
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
by punchinjudy on Aug 9, 2008 2:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
My haiku
Felipe Lopez
The “impact bat” we needed
Is it ‘09 yet?
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
by Mr Redbird on Aug 9, 2008 3:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
and in the 5 hole
just give Glaus a hand written memo : I HAVE NO FAITH IN YOU AT THIS POINT!!!! so now you have two outs in the middle of the line-up
by doug_4409 on Aug 9, 2008 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Glaus 0-29
against the cubbies..id still trot im out there though
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
by punchinjudy on Aug 9, 2008 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
not hey the new punch and judy guy is hitting 5th troy but we still need you in there behind him.....not exactly a boost of confidence for a guy who has obviously struggled against the Scrubbies for whatever reason
by doug_4409 on Aug 9, 2008 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's in his head, methinks
Remember how he started the year cold? He eventually snapped out of it, and there was never an 0-29, but it seemed like he’d never get going. This reminds me of that.
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
by Mr Redbird on Aug 9, 2008 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah i agree which is once again why you dont send a "mental" message by hitting him 6th....but methinks im beginning to beat a dead horse
by doug_4409 on Aug 9, 2008 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
dont yall know
Felipe Lopez is 9-for-31 (.290) against Zambrano with a .405 on-base percentage and a .581 slugging percentage. TLR is a genius i tell you, a genius.
by rlgosnell on Aug 9, 2008 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
great no rooney today
not a big fan of his fill in when it isnt ricky h
by doug_4409 on Aug 9, 2008 3:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You'd take
Claibes over Rooney?
My fellow Americans. As a young boy, I dreamed of being a baseball, but tonight I say, we must move forward, not backward, upward not forward, and always twirling, twirling, twirling towards freedom.
by Alxfritz on Aug 9, 2008 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good news, though:
At least the score is tied right now.
by Red in Chicago on Aug 9, 2008 3:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Will this be the game our offense
finally figures out how to hit Zambrano? I think the key will be to take a few pitches and not try to swing at first pitches. Big Z can get wild at times and it is a must to make him work. If the Cards don’t make him work then it will be an easy win for him.
by KYCards on Aug 9, 2008 3:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hes always one pitch from his head exploding
by doug_4409 on Aug 9, 2008 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
As many times as we have faced him now you would think they would pick up on his weakness. If they make him work and get his pitch count up he will start to loose his cool and get a little wild after a few innings. There should be no hacking at the first pitch with him.
by KYCards on Aug 9, 2008 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also if guys get on base or than Glaus
they need to run on him. Zambrano really starts to loose his cool when guys steal off him. And he looses his concentration and tends to get wild.
So game plan: Be patient at the plate and be agressive on the bases. Don’t let Zambrano control the game.
by KYCards on Aug 9, 2008 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
my haiku
Tony LaRussa
still our best fit manager?
Oquendo 09
by doug_4409 on Aug 9, 2008 3:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
so far having really seen one positive thought going into today's game
can only hope the player’s are singing the same tune in the clubhouse
by doug_4409 on Aug 9, 2008 3:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Legend of old, now just a Cub
Why, Jimmy Baseball
To Chicago have you gone?
Thief of our dreams.
Free Colby
by Oregonian Redbird on Aug 9, 2008 3:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ken Rosenthal is explaining the instant replay system
I love the idea of instant replay, but this proposal is just going to make everyone angrier: They’re routing every game through a central location (I think in NYC, but I don’t remember), and the crew chief can phone it into there. The crew chief gets first call and last call, and the umpire can veto the manager’s request for a replay for any reason, at his own discretion.
This is a really horrible system. It will just produce more angry yelling matches as egos collide.
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
by Valatan on Aug 9, 2008 3:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That's how the NHL works it
It does OK. There are frequently terribly long delays as calling a goal with as many obstructions as there are in the way of the cameras in hockey is hard to do but with baseball the clear view should alleviate that. And if they actually hold to the “if you can’t see it clearly/quickly you can’t change it” that is actually the way to go.
"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA
by joker24 on Aug 9, 2008 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha
love foxs opening..making fun of peopels court with brynes wearing all hats..pointed to the cubs and said..”they are the cubs something si goign to go wrong”
and have wapner on
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
by punchinjudy on Aug 9, 2008 3:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
and a my cousin vinny ref.
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
by punchinjudy on Aug 9, 2008 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
except they picked the
cubs and angels are the picks for the series
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
by punchinjudy on Aug 9, 2008 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
national broadcasts featuring the cubs =
heavy bleeding from the ears…
by LukeMP1186 on Aug 9, 2008 3:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Kennedy is garbage
boo cubs, hooray beer
by Raconteur on Aug 9, 2008 3:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Albert
just needs to bide his time and wait for his pitch
by CardsFan85 on Aug 9, 2008 3:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
he looked real impatient yesterday…
by duncans_army on Aug 9, 2008 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How was that first pitch to Albert a strike?
boo cubs, hooray beer
by Raconteur on Aug 9, 2008 3:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Who
is the ump behind the plate today?
by CardsFan85 on Aug 9, 2008 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
After last nights KZone
that was tame.
by RiverRat on Aug 9, 2008 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
idiot announcers...
“power numbers for pujols not where they usually are”
pujols currently #2 in slugging, .610
by duncans_army on Aug 9, 2008 4:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Has there ever been a case of home team umpiring more than Wrigley?
Fucking ridiculous
boo cubs, hooray beer
by Raconteur on Aug 9, 2008 4:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
"Albert normally doesnt swing at that pitch" or
“albert usually doesn’t look off balance” have been said an awful lot this year.
by rlgosnell on Aug 9, 2008 4:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah...
to the tune of
.349/.460/.610
by duncans_army on Aug 9, 2008 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
clearly we need to trade him while his value is high :)
boo cubs, hooray beer
by Raconteur on Aug 9, 2008 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fox announcers are
almost as bad as Channel 5
by CardsFan85 on Aug 9, 2008 4:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow - Shannon just said Lud hasn't faced big Z before
That’s surprising
by BTown Birds fan on Aug 9, 2008 4:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not really
I dont believe he played against the Cubs much last year and only once this year
by CardsFan85 on Aug 9, 2008 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'd imagine Zambrano is pretty tough on righties
and until this year, Luddy has been a platooner
boo cubs, hooray beer
by Raconteur on Aug 9, 2008 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that's true
I’ve tried to block out the painful memory of how much he’s sat, even earlier this year.
by BTown Birds fan on Aug 9, 2008 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i guess
no other camera angles were available for that check swing?
by LukeMP1186 on Aug 9, 2008 4:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
they can't show up the umps on Fox
heaven forbid
boo cubs, hooray beer
by Raconteur on Aug 9, 2008 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he deserved a make up call after that first pitch strike
boo cubs, hooray beer
by Raconteur on Aug 9, 2008 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Luddy on his way to 100 ribbies!
Testicle-exploding shit storm, circa 7/12/08 - We will never forget!
by bjork24 on Aug 9, 2008 4:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
nothing like having 2 HR's on the year from your 5 hole
by rlgosnell on Aug 9, 2008 4:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It's a justifiable move if you look at Lopez's #'s versus Zambrano
boo cubs, hooray beer
by Raconteur on Aug 9, 2008 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And it showed there
Testicle-exploding shit storm, circa 7/12/08 - We will never forget!
by bjork24 on Aug 9, 2008 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he struck out, yes, but in a decent sized sample size he has owned Zambrano
so it’s not a bad move on TLR’s part
trust me, i’m the first to rip TLR, but he isn’t making a mistake putting Lopez in the 5 hole
boo cubs, hooray beer
by Raconteur on Aug 9, 2008 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
especially...
considering glaus’ disappearing act against the cubs…
by LukeMP1186 on Aug 9, 2008 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
31 ABs is not a decent sized sample.
Not even remotely close. What if he’d gone 8 for 31 against him instead of 9 for 31, would we still be saying .258 would be hitting well????
"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA
by joker24 on Aug 9, 2008 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, against a single pitcher, it is a good sample size
boo cubs, hooray beer
by Raconteur on Aug 9, 2008 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and besides, it's not like this team ever hits Zambrano well
TLR might as well try to switch things up and hope for the best.
boo cubs, hooray beer
by Raconteur on Aug 9, 2008 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My only problem with it is that
Most of those AB are from when Lopez was with the Reds, so therefore, back when he was good, and when all of the AB would have either been in Wrigley or the GAB
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
by Valatan on Aug 9, 2008 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which is why you don't use batter/pitcher matchups in the first place
You never actually get a sample size. It’s utterly ridiculous, terrible, stupid, [insert negative adjective] and dumb to say 9/31 makes him a better option than a better hitter. Again, what if ONE hit hadn’t blooped in and he was 8/31? He’d be on the bench for hitting .258 against him.
"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA
by joker24 on Aug 9, 2008 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh not to mention
His defense in left is going to suck as HE ISN’T AN OUTFIELDER.
"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA
by joker24 on Aug 9, 2008 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What about Albert vs. Odalis Perez?
and there are guys who are something like 2/31 against a pitcher. Perhaps that really is a sign to bench them.
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
by Valatan on Aug 9, 2008 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We can debate that one another time
Maybe I shouldn’t have used never---what is clear is that regarding a player in STEEP decline, 9/31 over the course of 5 years has next to nothing to do with what he’s going to do today.
"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA
by joker24 on Aug 9, 2008 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They looked at that in THE BOOK
and found that all single batter v. hitter stats were meaningless and would regress back to something resembling their true talent level.
by azruavatar on Aug 9, 2008 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's just so contrary to reason to me
certain batters SHOULD be able to see certain pitches well. A fastball hitter should be able to hit randy johnson better than the average joe, and a guy who likes low curveballs should have fared better against Darryl Kile. I can see how most of the time, it’s just random fluctuation stuff, but…
Maybe a better way to look at would be ‘batter vs. pitch type’ stats
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
by Valatan on Aug 9, 2008 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There are small GB or FB pitcher "platoon" splits
On that note, Lopez in his career has hit .253 .310 .359 vs. groundballers (88 tOPS+) and .239 .315 .393 (98 tOPS+) vs power pitchers.
"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA
by joker24 on Aug 9, 2008 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you can only go so far with splits and opposing stats.
Do I think it’s a good move to put lopez in the 5 hole and sit Mather? No I dont. I dont care that Z eats up righties. A guy who sucks against everyone except one guy is still a guy who sucks.
by rlgosnell on Aug 9, 2008 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd rather have Lopez in there versus Zambrano than Mather
boo cubs, hooray beer
by Raconteur on Aug 9, 2008 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In play runs scored my good friend
Cannot watch the game today because it is blacked out on mlb.tv because of fox
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
by ANDYAK47 on Aug 9, 2008 4:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, at least we're on the board already
by BTown Birds fan on Aug 9, 2008 4:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
we've scored a run, hence on the board
boo cubs, hooray beer
by Raconteur on Aug 9, 2008 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i was asking what the b stood for in btown
by doug_4409 on Aug 9, 2008 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bloomington, IN
Although I’ve recently moved back to St. Louis
by BTown Birds fan on Aug 9, 2008 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OMG
announcers: “cards haven’t been great in one run games, 21-21”
so if we’d won one more 1 run game, we’d be at basically the same win percentage as the rest of our games….
by duncans_army on Aug 9, 2008 4:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Have the Cards
ever had a real good series at Wrigley? I mean it seems like every time I watch theses games we always struggle. Is it the stadium, the placement of the sun, the cheating by the home team?
by CardsFan85 on Aug 9, 2008 4:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
uhh...
7/19 and 7/20/2004. One of the best times I’ve ever had watching baseball.
by mattisnotfrench on Aug 9, 2008 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What's the wind doing up in Wrigley today?
by hockeyno93 on Aug 9, 2008 4:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
it keeps swirling been blowing out most of bp but did start blowing in right before game time
by doug_4409 on Aug 9, 2008 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Errrrrrrrr.....
Nice to see the value of the Notre Dame education.
by notmorganfreeman on Aug 9, 2008 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he feels lost without his better half...
who’s toiling away holding a clipboard somewhere in ohio…
by LukeMP1186 on Aug 9, 2008 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yep but he can pitch.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
by rocKStark5 on Aug 9, 2008 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he wasn't that good in the minors
and they rushed him up, we’ll see how good he is.
boo cubs, hooray beer
by Raconteur on Aug 9, 2008 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's the new darin erstad
beloved by the media for being a football player…
by duncans_army on Aug 9, 2008 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The most obvious part of Fox's scouting report
Eat Innings. Bullpen needs a rest. Well DUH!!
by CardsFan85 on Aug 9, 2008 4:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Come on Welly
for me it is a moral victory anytime we keep Soriano in the park
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
by ANDYAK47 on Aug 9, 2008 4:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So is anyone on board with Waino in the 9th?
by rlgosnell on Aug 9, 2008 4:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
absolutely not
boo cubs, hooray beer
by Raconteur on Aug 9, 2008 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Using him as a seesaw starter is an interesting idea, though
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
by Valatan on Aug 9, 2008 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
probably a horrible idea, but interesting, nonetheless...
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
by Valatan on Aug 9, 2008 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty lucky that wasn't in the stands
boo cubs, hooray beer
by Raconteur on Aug 9, 2008 4:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If Ryan Theriot hits the ball off him that hard, this could be a rough outing
boo cubs, hooray beer
by Raconteur on Aug 9, 2008 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you mean the same ryan theriot...
that’s 6th in the nl in hitting?
by LukeMP1186 on Aug 9, 2008 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no, i mean the Ryan Theriot with 1 homerun
boo cubs, hooray beer
by Raconteur on Aug 9, 2008 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
deep fly balls are common products of wrigley...
hard hit balls are common products of the 6th best average in the nl…
by LukeMP1186 on Aug 9, 2008 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow, how close was that to being out of the park
I was rooting for a double play from watching game day
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
by ANDYAK47 on Aug 9, 2008 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
right center gap at the track
boo cubs, hooray beer
by Raconteur on Aug 9, 2008 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Skip should have let Lopez have that one
by rlgosnell on Aug 9, 2008 4:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hello friends
this lineup today is a joke.
by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 9, 2008 4:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Lee's Home Run Rate at home is 84% of his home runs
Isnt that a bit ridiculous
by CardsFan85 on Aug 9, 2008 4:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah, it tells you how ridiculous Wrigely field is
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
by ANDYAK47 on Aug 9, 2008 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
god
it always seems like glaus is going to over throw pujols.
by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 9, 2008 4:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
it's because he is so damn tall
boo cubs, hooray beer
by Raconteur on Aug 9, 2008 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sure, i just need to see Edmonds take one in the back for yesterday
by rlgosnell on Aug 9, 2008 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
why not just strike Ramirez out and do it next inning?
wouldn’t that make more sense?
boo cubs, hooray beer
by Raconteur on Aug 9, 2008 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still hate the Pirates
for trading Ramirez to the Cubs, what a stupid trade.
boo cubs, hooray beer
by Raconteur on Aug 9, 2008 4:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
what does that have to do with the Ramirez trade?
boo cubs, hooray beer
by Raconteur on Aug 9, 2008 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pirates trading in the division than but not now
It seemed like they got nothing for him and wanted the world for Bay
by CardsFan85 on Aug 9, 2008 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
New management
boo cubs, hooray beer
by Raconteur on Aug 9, 2008 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
this pirate front office...
isn’t half as inept as the last…
by LukeMP1186 on Aug 9, 2008 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
we did not need Bay.
we needed Hanley Ramirez, Brian Roberts, and/or the Angels bullpen.
by rlgosnell on Aug 9, 2008 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hanley Ramirez was being shopped?!!??
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
by Valatan on Aug 9, 2008 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, Mo offered Ryan and Perez
but the Marlins also wanted Izturis so he said no
by rlgosnell on Aug 9, 2008 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yep, they wanted Duncan + Reyes and we said no deal
boo cubs, hooray beer
by Raconteur on Aug 9, 2008 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think they were asking for Kennedy too, which was the dealbreaker
Testicle-exploding shit storm, circa 7/12/08 - We will never forget!
by bjork24 on Aug 9, 2008 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if they wanted Kennedy, they had to throw in Uggla
boo cubs, hooray beer
by Raconteur on Aug 9, 2008 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
After his ASG performance, that might be an even trade
Testicle-exploding shit storm, circa 7/12/08 - We will never forget!
by bjork24 on Aug 9, 2008 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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omg, a fly ball hit to deh outfield. let’s cheer real loud and will it out. sdflkjsdlfkhsdlfk
go cubz!!! dey are ayesome dude!
by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 9, 2008 4:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Was that as close to being a homerun as gameday indicates?
stupid FOX. I hate you. I hate you.
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
by Valatan on Aug 9, 2008 4:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes, but only because it's Wrigley field
routine fly ball anywhere else
boo cubs, hooray beer
by Raconteur on Aug 9, 2008 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yankees/Angels
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
by Valatan on Aug 9, 2008 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ummm
you live in an nl central area and you get an AL west team and an Al east team?
i’m lost.
by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 9, 2008 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's FOX. They are horrible with this
It doesn’t matter. So long as you’re not in the market area of the two teams in the alternate game, you always get Yanks or Red sox
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
by Valatan on Aug 9, 2008 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well you know
you don’t like baseball if you don’t root for the yankees or the red sox.
by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 9, 2008 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
and I could even live with THAT if they didn’t have this coverage that tries to turn baseball into football. Ah well. I still like my idea of a fan movement to buy the contract back for NBC. Id’ totally donate $50 to that cause
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
by Valatan on Aug 9, 2008 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i live in tennessee
and i’m getting cards/cubs…
really no idea how they decide which game to show.
by adiueordie on Aug 9, 2008 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, it's crazy
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
by Valatan on Aug 9, 2008 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Less for him to throw
Testicle-exploding shit storm, circa 7/12/08 - We will never forget!
by bjork24 on Aug 9, 2008 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was the farthest ball i've ever seen hit at Wrigley I think
too bad it was foul
boo cubs, hooray beer
by Raconteur on Aug 9, 2008 4:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So down in Houston they play this game every year on talk radio.
If you could pick one player from any team to put on your roster. Who is it? meaning who would be the best addition to the team you currently have.
by rlgosnell on Aug 9, 2008 4:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
are you suggesting we play that for the Cardinals?
if so, i say Hanley Ramirez, hands down.
by kindred on Aug 9, 2008 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
or Utley or ARod...
... with ARod moving back to SS.
but i’d still take Hanley. he’s younger, still has room to improve (esp. defensively), and much cheaper.
by kindred on Aug 9, 2008 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
for 2008?
k-rod
long term?
hanley ramirez
by LukeMP1186 on Aug 9, 2008 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What ridiculous wind
I’ll give soto some credit, trying to catch foul pop ups at Wrigley as a catcher must be an adventure
boo cubs, hooray beer
by Raconteur on Aug 9, 2008 4:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
As much as this pain me to say it
Soriano
by CardsFan85 on Aug 9, 2008 4:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm just happy that in 4 years they'll be regretting that contract
boo cubs, hooray beer
by Raconteur on Aug 9, 2008 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea, but that was a good at bat
made z throw pitches and hit a foul ball moon shoot
boo cubs, hooray beer
by Raconteur on Aug 9, 2008 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
as bad as glaus is right now
that trade was a steal
by rlgosnell on Aug 9, 2008 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea, and he's really only been terrible versus the Cubs
I wonder what his #’s look like for us versus the rest of the season if you take out the games against the cubs.
boo cubs, hooray beer
by Raconteur on Aug 9, 2008 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, everybody's #s will improve...
... if you remove the toughest competition from their numbers.
his complete disappearance vs. the Cubs has really hurt us this year. i still think the trade was awesome (and did at the time), but these are big games, and we need our best players to perform in them.
by kindred on Aug 9, 2008 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, none of our good players have performed against the Cubs
boo cubs, hooray beer
by Raconteur on Aug 9, 2008 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ken Rosenthal
should stick to writing about sports not talking
by CardsFan85 on Aug 9, 2008 4:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I hate that fake smile he does on tv
he is so much better on the radio – he looks positively uncomfortable on tv
by cardsfaninmass on Aug 9, 2008 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
doesn’t have the TV sparkle and it seems like he knows it.
by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 9, 2008 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just cant stand the way he talks.
It sounds way to rehearsed and not at all natural.
by CardsFan85 on Aug 9, 2008 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gammons funbles half of what he says too
but I would listen to him talk about baseball all day long
by rlgosnell on Aug 9, 2008 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gammons seems so passionate though
Rosenthal sounds like its just his job
by CardsFan85 on Aug 9, 2008 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alert the presses
the Cardinals have made a good pitcher throw 34 pitches through 2 innings, as opposed to the usual 15 through 2
boo cubs, hooray beer
by Raconteur on Aug 9, 2008 4:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
21 in the first, a typical Welly inning
boo cubs, hooray beer
by Raconteur on Aug 9, 2008 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You guys think the cubs will re sign Edmonds?
boo cubs, hooray beer
by Raconteur on Aug 9, 2008 4:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I could see it
No replacement really in their system
by CardsFan85 on Aug 9, 2008 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe Pie.
But it seems like they dont like him anymore
by CardsFan85 on Aug 9, 2008 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Depends
On whether he’s injured between now and October. 50-50.
by Red in Chicago on Aug 9, 2008 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'll expound...
... the Cubs are paying him a pro-rated portion of the league minimum this year. next year, they won’t be able to do that.
even the Cubs’ wallets aren’t bottomless.
by kindred on Aug 9, 2008 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But Cuban may own them buy next year
by CardsFan85 on Aug 9, 2008 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cuban will NOT own the Cubs
Trust me, MLB won’t let it happen and neither will the other owners.
boo cubs, hooray beer
by Raconteur on Aug 9, 2008 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Cuban is actually offering 200 million more than anyone else they'll be his
Aside from the fact that money talks, you don’t piss off a motivated billionaire into lawsuits that threaten your anti-trust exemption.
"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA
by joker24 on Aug 9, 2008 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We'll see, I'd say there is a less than 5% chance Cuban ever owns a baseball team
boo cubs, hooray beer
by Raconteur on Aug 9, 2008 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In a reference to the Dark Knight
“Let me get this straight: Your bidder, one of the wealthiest, most powerful men in the world, is out-bidding all the other ‘richest men’ by 200 million dollars. He just threw away mounds of money in legal fees by taking his former coach to court almost exclusively so it would become public that said coach sleezeballed his way out of town. And your plan is to anger this person? Good luck. “
"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA
by joker24 on Aug 9, 2008 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thats the edmonds i remember
10.27.06..greatest day of my life
by steveo61086 on Aug 9, 2008 4:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
sit down edmonds
and why don’t you do that 3 more times today.
by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 9, 2008 4:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sigh
Derosa
Testicle-exploding shit storm, circa 7/12/08 - We will never forget!
by bjork24 on Aug 9, 2008 4:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Is the wind blowing out?
that looked like a freaking routine fly ball off the bat
boo cubs, hooray beer
by Raconteur on Aug 9, 2008 4:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
everything's been carrying today...
... so i’d say it is.
by kindred on Aug 9, 2008 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i would kill to have derosa on our team..
he’s actually a utility player, which is what larussa love, that can hit.
10.27.06..greatest day of my life
by steveo61086 on Aug 9, 2008 4:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Juxtaposition/Contradiction
which is what larussa love
that can hit.
"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA
by joker24 on Aug 9, 2008 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
mark freakin' derosa
it’s their jokers that kill us.
by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 9, 2008 4:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Soto is hitting .457 lifetime against the Cardinals
:(
Testicle-exploding shit storm, circa 7/12/08 - We will never forget!
by bjork24 on Aug 9, 2008 4:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
cub catchers kill the cardinals
see michael barrett.
by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 9, 2008 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seems like a reversal of yesterdays game.
We scored second yesterday and lost.
by CardsFan85 on Aug 9, 2008 4:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Can anybody see this? Blacked out here.
Where was the second ball to Soto? GameDay has it right on the corner at the knees.
by StanTheManFan on Aug 9, 2008 4:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If Wellsie keeps on controlling the strike zone like this
I don’t mind the odd solo HR
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
by Valatan on Aug 9, 2008 4:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This is the inning we need to get another run
and put some pressure on Z. If not there is a good chance he will get in a groove. Important inning here.
by KYCards on Aug 9, 2008 4:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He's throwing strikes today
it’s hard when that happens, because sitting on him and watching pitches doesn’t really help you
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
by Valatan on Aug 9, 2008 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So no matter how much I hate the Cubs
why is it that I still like Lou Pinella as a manager?
by CardsFan85 on Aug 9, 2008 4:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
because he's crazy
and crazy’s fun from a manager (but obnoxious from a player)
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
by Valatan on Aug 9, 2008 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
SKIP!!!!
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
by Valatan on Aug 9, 2008 4:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Keep throwing those low and inside pitches to Skip
boo cubs, hooray beer
by Raconteur on Aug 9, 2008 4:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Schumaker doing some yard work
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
by ANDYAK47 on Aug 9, 2008 4:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That hopefully will sake Z up and give Albert something good to hit,
by KYCards on Aug 9, 2008 4:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow....I hate you Ryan Theriot
boo cubs, hooray beer
by Raconteur on Aug 9, 2008 4:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
if i had no morals...
... i’d hire a hitman to take out Theriot. and Pedrioa, probably. but definitely Theriot.
oh, and thank you Albert
by kindred on Aug 9, 2008 4:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Albert get out
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
by ANDYAK47 on Aug 9, 2008 4:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Allllllllllllllllllbbbbbbbbbbbberrrrrrrrrrtooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!
Obama/Pujols 2008.
by davethebutcher on Aug 9, 2008 4:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sweeeeet!
I needed an excuse to jump off the couch and make a fool of myself on this lovely summer day.
by effin fisk on Aug 9, 2008 4:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Come on Luddy, get in on this
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
by ANDYAK47 on Aug 9, 2008 4:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Are we finally figuring out the mighty Z???
The Mang has!!!
by KYCards on Aug 9, 2008 4:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
he usually does not swing at the first pitch
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
by ANDYAK47 on Aug 9, 2008 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
albert should've watched it a little longer to piss Z off.
by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 9, 2008 4:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks Wellemeyer, just give em all back
boo cubs, hooray beer
by Raconteur on Aug 9, 2008 4:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Anyone else tired of this Cubs lovefest being shown on the Fox national station?
Did you know…
The Traffic Light, the modern day Bra, the Ford Model T, and Instant Coffee have all been invented since the Cubs last won a World Series…
by NoSteroidsHere on Aug 9, 2008 4:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
damn, settle down welly
we need to keep the lead
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
by ANDYAK47 on Aug 9, 2008 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Get use to it...it will only get worse in Oct.
by KYCards on Aug 9, 2008 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actual quote from the game:
“The Cardinals are very solid on the road, and have one of the best road records in baseball; one of the few winning records on the road. But the Cubs are very solid at home and a good road record like the Cardinals will get you ten games over .500, but a good home record will put you 30-35 games over .500, which is why the Cubs are six games ahead.”
Anyone else have a problem with the math there?
Did you know…
The Traffic Light, the modern day Bra, the Ford Model T, and Instant Coffee have all been invented since the Cubs last won a World Series…
by NoSteroidsHere on Aug 9, 2008 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thats why you never get down 3-0 on a pitcher
At least one that can hit
by CardsFan85 on Aug 9, 2008 4:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
this kid in the booth sounds more natural on the mike than rick horton
10.27.06..greatest day of my life
by steveo61086 on Aug 9, 2008 4:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
With even more clichés.
I’m looking forward to FJM critiquing this guy.
by notmorganfreeman on Aug 9, 2008 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Welly at 50 pitches in the 3rd
going to have to use the bullpen early I’m afraid
by KYCards on Aug 9, 2008 4:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
thankfully...
... Franklin is probably unavailable.
by kindred on Aug 9, 2008 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thompson get ready...
Did you know…
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by NoSteroidsHere on Aug 9, 2008 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
settle down, colonel
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
by Valatan on Aug 9, 2008 4:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
danger, Welly...
... please get Lee, or else it’s gonna get ugly.
by kindred on Aug 9, 2008 4:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No Kidding!
Did you know…
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by NoSteroidsHere on Aug 9, 2008 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
WTF?
that ball had DP written all over it
THE SKIP IS LEGIT!!
Seriously... what were Rich Harden's parents thinking?!?!?!
by stltrav09 on Aug 9, 2008 4:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
that's a double play...
on the old surface…
by LukeMP1186 on Aug 9, 2008 4:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Same result...
just a bit more anxiety than necessary
by cardinalinohio on Aug 9, 2008 4:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Just got here, any Tony apologists want to explain Lopez over Mather today?
I thought the point was to play the hot hitter.
by TheBirds on Aug 9, 2008 4:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Did anyone catch Mather’s hesitation reading the lineup today when he got to Lopez in left?
by NorseKaiser on Aug 9, 2008 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So what is the reason for Ankiel not playing today?
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
by ANDYAK47 on Aug 9, 2008 4:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Larussa said he would be in the lineup today
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
by ANDYAK47 on Aug 9, 2008 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
His stomach is bleeding
Testicle-exploding shit storm, circa 7/12/08 - We will never forget!
by bjork24 on Aug 9, 2008 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There you go Felipe
Come on glaus
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
by ANDYAK47 on Aug 9, 2008 4:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
FINALLY
Thank you Santa
Testicle-exploding shit storm, circa 7/12/08 - We will never forget!
by bjork24 on Aug 9, 2008 4:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Here's some good commentary that Fox should use...
Since his 30th AB, Troy Glaus has now homered in every at bat against the Cubs this season…
or maybe they could save that one for Joe Morgan…
by stlfan on Aug 9, 2008 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lol.
I dont think Morgan would have even caught that
by CardsFan85 on Aug 9, 2008 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
how many AB does this go on for before it actually becomes astounding?
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
by Valatan on Aug 9, 2008 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
9
"Them Cubbies can kiss my ass" -Dizzy Dean
by Molina4MVP on Aug 9, 2008 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone think the wind might be blowing out today?
Did you know…
The Traffic Light, the modern day Bra, the Ford Model T, and Instant Coffee have all been invented since the Cubs last won a World Series…
by NoSteroidsHere on Aug 9, 2008 4:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
actually heard a cubs fan yesterday say they score more runs with the wind blowing in
i was so dumbfounded i couldnt even reply back. i just kinda stared at him to make sure he was serious and he was
10.27.06..greatest day of my life
by steveo61086 on Aug 9, 2008 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah baby
Glaus is back
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
by ANDYAK47 on Aug 9, 2008 4:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
wow, just wow.
thank you to lopez for getting on.
Obama/Pujols 2008.
by davethebutcher on Aug 9, 2008 4:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Keep piling on
not only does it help us win, it makes big z less likely to win the cy
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
by Valatan on Aug 9, 2008 4:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And more likely to go berzerk on a water cooler
Testicle-exploding shit storm, circa 7/12/08 - We will never forget!
by bjork24 on Aug 9, 2008 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So now the question
is no longer WHETHER Z throws at somebody, it’s just who and when.
by StanTheManFan on Aug 9, 2008 4:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I am telling you
Edmonds should watch out. Lol
by CardsFan85 on Aug 9, 2008 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yadi's ability to do that...
... is why he’s hitting .300 this year instead of .216 a couple of years ago.
by kindred on Aug 9, 2008 5:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wait
You mean we scored in an inning other than the first two? I dont believe it. Lol
by CardsFan85 on Aug 9, 2008 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
alright miles
your turn to hit one out.
Obama/Pujols 2008.
by davethebutcher on Aug 9, 2008 5:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Trading Schumaker
I think Schumaker is our most tradeable outfielder next year. I think he will be dealt in the off season. What kind of value you think we could get for him?
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 9, 2008 5:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
trade him for Anthony Reyes
"Them Cubbies can kiss my ass" -Dizzy Dean
by Molina4MVP on Aug 9, 2008 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
dunno...
... he would have the most value as a CF since he’s still not great offensively. but the Cards almost never play him there, so other teams might not be creative enough to offer much.
he might have some value, especially in a package, but not too much. especially on his own.
by kindred on Aug 9, 2008 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What is his contract status
if he’s locked up for a few more years he could be pretty valuable if he ends the year hitting above .300
by TheBirds on Aug 9, 2008 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Has there been any explanation as to why Wainwright got smacked around yesterday?
by TheBirds on Aug 9, 2008 5:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How bad was it?
Testicle-exploding shit storm, circa 7/12/08 - We will never forget!
by bjork24 on Aug 9, 2008 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Real Bad
DIdn’t even last an inning
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 9, 2008 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think the first 4 guys reached, someone jacked a 3 run dong or something
that could be innacurate.
by TheBirds on Aug 9, 2008 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2008/8/9/590060/adam-wainwright-s-rehab-st
Obama/Pujols 2008.
by davethebutcher on Aug 9, 2008 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
from the post
it sounded like he had no control for starters. which is not bad considering he has been out for awhile. he also threw mostly fastballs and only like two curveballs…so i think this was not as bad as it may seem.
by 916baller on Aug 9, 2008 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so
why is fox using the cub’s announcers?
i mean, there’s NO WAY these guys are trying to be objective…
"Them Cubbies can kiss my ass" -Dizzy Dean
by Molina4MVP on Aug 9, 2008 5:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
these announcers are retarded...
... Pujols is slugging over .600.
by kindred on Aug 9, 2008 5:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Kind of suprised to hear Claibourne praising Jimmy
after he was told off by him less than 24 hours ago
by KYCards on Aug 9, 2008 5:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It's good to think that the Cubs will have paid Fukudome 48m by 2011.
Plus: “8 first-class round-trip air tickets between Japan and Chicago for family each year, personal trainer, masseuse, interpreter, visa expenses, $25,000 annually in moving expenses, vehicle during spring training and regular season”
by notmorganfreeman on Aug 9, 2008 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is exciting
Fukudome: .273 .373 .404
Schumaker: .304 .366 .425
"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA
by joker24 on Aug 9, 2008 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Go Albert Go
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
by ANDYAK47 on Aug 9, 2008 5:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Studwick time
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
by ANDYAK47 on Aug 9, 2008 5:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Let's go Luddy!
Did you know…
The Traffic Light, the modern day Bra, the Ford Model T, and Instant Coffee have all been invented since the Cubs last won a World Series…
by NoSteroidsHere on Aug 9, 2008 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would
Did you know…
The Traffic Light, the modern day Bra, the Ford Model T, and Instant Coffee have all been invented since the Cubs last won a World Series…
by NoSteroidsHere on Aug 9, 2008 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if Lud continues this...
he has to be a serious MVP candidate, doesnt he?
by longhornscardinals on Aug 9, 2008 5:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
Did you know…
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by NoSteroidsHere on Aug 9, 2008 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't even think it.
It’ll just take votes away from Pujols.
by StanTheManFan on Aug 9, 2008 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And, by extension, make Pujols easier to resign in 2012
I’m fine with it
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
by Valatan on Aug 9, 2008 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You would think so
Top 5 in HRs, Top 5 in RBI’s, Top 10 in AVG I believe. Its just a shame that another solid year for Pujols may not equal an MVP
by CardsFan85 on Aug 9, 2008 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
check swing base hit made me crack up
he must be PISSED
by TheBirds on Aug 9, 2008 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Definitely now!
Way to go Santa!
by Merry CRasmus on Aug 9, 2008 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
alright, everyone is in on the fun.
Obama/Pujols 2008.
by davethebutcher on Aug 9, 2008 5:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I've never seen a hairdo like that
Can you imagine sitting behind that, trying to watch the game?
by Merry CRasmus on Aug 9, 2008 5:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Let's Go Santa
Knock Z out of the game in the 5th!
Did you know…
The Traffic Light, the modern day Bra, the Ford Model T, and Instant Coffee have all been invented since the Cubs last won a World Series…
by NoSteroidsHere on Aug 9, 2008 5:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
GO GLAUS!!!
Did you know…
The Traffic Light, the modern day Bra, the Ford Model T, and Instant Coffee have all been invented since the Cubs last won a World Series…
by NoSteroidsHere on Aug 9, 2008 5:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This is awsome....couple more runs I might actually
feel ok giving it to the BP
by RiverRat on Aug 9, 2008 5:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Santa with a vengence
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
by ANDYAK47 on Aug 9, 2008 5:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow since his 30th AB
He he has 2 Homeruns and has an OPS of 3.000
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 9, 2008 5:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
isn't it 5.000?
"Them Cubbies can kiss my ass" -Dizzy Dean
by Molina4MVP on Aug 9, 2008 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I feel sorry for every water cooler in Wrigley
by TheBirds on Aug 9, 2008 5:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
haha, well played
Obama/Pujols 2008.
by davethebutcher on Aug 9, 2008 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
zambranos ERA
just flat out ballooned.
by longhornscardinals on Aug 9, 2008 5:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Mmmm ERA regression to FIP can be fun
"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA
by joker24 on Aug 9, 2008 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's a groundball pitcher
FIP ignores batted ball data. It’s ALWAYS going to undercount him
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
by Valatan on Aug 9, 2008 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm aware, but not by a full run
And it’s not that he’s a groundballer, it’s that he’s a low BABIP guy.
"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA
by joker24 on Aug 9, 2008 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
awesome
in play, run(s)
thought it might be a homer cause it looked pretty meaty on gameday
by vances law on Aug 9, 2008 5:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Damn you fox black out, damn you
Obama/Pujols 2008.
by davethebutcher on Aug 9, 2008 5:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Carlos who?
Slump? What slump?
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
by Mr Redbird on Aug 9, 2008 5:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
is today opposite day?
holy crap Troy
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
by gdm426 on Aug 9, 2008 5:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Still got to remember with our pen and the Cubs at home
not over till it’s over.
by TheBirds on Aug 9, 2008 5:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ciao, Carlos.
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
by Valatan on Aug 9, 2008 5:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ok, ok...i'll be the one to say it...
who here really feels comfortable with just a touchdown lead and the cubs with 5 possessions to go?
by LukeMP1186 on Aug 9, 2008 5:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Glaus to get his 300th today?
Should get two more ABs.
by notmorganfreeman on Aug 9, 2008 5:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
no one who has watched us play this year
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
by sportsman on Aug 9, 2008 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Zambrano looked surprisingly mellow in the dugout
by CardsFan85 on Aug 9, 2008 5:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
probably just shock
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
by sportsman on Aug 9, 2008 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think TLR deserves credit for batting Glaus 6th
everyone thought the lineup was insane….
but I think it took the pressure off him a bit, and with some kind of results…
by cardsfaninmass on Aug 9, 2008 5:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
maybe
but this means flopex bats 5th, where did that come from. surely yaddi would have been a better bet. i’d rack it up to his lucky day
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
by sportsman on Aug 9, 2008 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lopez has been on base twice and scored 2 runs
he was bating over .300 vs. Z…that’s why
by cardsfaninmass on Aug 9, 2008 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if his last hit wasn't luck, i don't know what luck is
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
by gdm426 on Aug 9, 2008 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"his lucky day"
was for both tlr and flopez. i also don’t believe in this career numbers bit for a hitter whose average is so far below the time when he hit anybody, much less zambrano. both were lucky today, so far anyway
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
by sportsman on Aug 9, 2008 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
larussa
“weird” maneuverings work out well = Lucky
Don’t work out well = Terrible management, should be fired…
"Them Cubbies can kiss my ass" -Dizzy Dean
by Molina4MVP on Aug 9, 2008 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
just part of the rampant anti-tlr bias that circulates amongst these boards
although, I for one, am so damn pissed about Wainwright to the bullpen, I don’t want to defend tlr anymore
by cardsfaninmass on Aug 9, 2008 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
fyi
i was glad tony sighed on last winter, but no longer. this year he has taken a team that could be so much better and removed stability, discouraged some of the younger players (e.g., reyes and ryan), in particular, and has not, apparently, worked well with management to solve the obvious problems.
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
by sportsman on Aug 9, 2008 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
clearly a check swing base hit is a quality AB
he has had a good day though.
by TheBirds on Aug 9, 2008 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd say
lopez batting 5th has worked out … today.
The Dude abides.
by drewmaniac on Aug 9, 2008 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
flopez has decent career numbers vs. Z
which is why he was 5, i’m sure. and he made “solid” contact today…
"Them Cubbies can kiss my ass" -Dizzy Dean
by Molina4MVP on Aug 9, 2008 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i agree...
i figured he may have gotten the day off altogether with his struggles and zambrano going…glad he didn’t…
by LukeMP1186 on Aug 9, 2008 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fox announcers translator:
Fox: “Keep in mind that this game is only in the 5th and is far from over”
Translation: “Please don’t flip over to NBC to watch the Olympics…”
by duncans_army on Aug 9, 2008 5:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
it's a pro flub crew
what do you really expect?
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
by gdm426 on Aug 9, 2008 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i don't care what the score is...
swimming, gymnastics, and cycling is as good as half a bottle of nyquil…
by LukeMP1186 on Aug 9, 2008 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
might be the first time I ever heard a baseball fan call another sport boring...
by duncans_army on Aug 9, 2008 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Have you ever been to an NFL game?
Sequence every game: field goal…4 minute TV timeout…kickoff…4 minute TV timeout…2 plays….two minute warning 4 minute TV timeout…1 play….timeout called 4 minutes of commercials…2 plays….timeout 4 minute commercial….field goal….4 minute TV timeout…kickoff 4 minute TV timeout…..a play, timeout 4 minutes of commercials….halftime 20 minutes of nothingness.
"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA
by joker24 on Aug 9, 2008 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
NyQuil is the shit when you're sick
Swimming, gymnastics and cycling can’t touch the NQ.
"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA
by joker24 on Aug 9, 2008 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
I didnt realize Glaus only has 4 errors this year.
The Dude abides.
by drewmaniac on Aug 9, 2008 5:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
he has to be in the running for NL Gold Glove at 3B this year
though it’ll most likely go to David Wright
boo cubs, hooray beer
by Raconteur on Aug 9, 2008 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course it will
He’s from NY. Not that there’s any bias or anything,
The Dude abides.
by drewmaniac on Aug 9, 2008 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'll bet 1000 internet bucks ...
that d. wright wins the gold glove. That’s without checking any stats. for all i know he has 15 errors
"Ding-dong the wicked witch is dead!" - Wayne Hagin after the cardinals snapped a losing streak
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Aug 9, 2008 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
but he's so pretty!
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
by gdm426 on Aug 9, 2008 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
4 less than a Mr. Scottie Rolen
by cardsfaninmass on Aug 9, 2008 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
AND
four less times he’s had his feelings hurt!
The Dude abides.
by drewmaniac on Aug 9, 2008 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not to mention
that he’s made four fewer than Rolen in 22 more games played at 3rd.
by cardinalinohio on Aug 9, 2008 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hopefully Welly can get through another few innings quickly...
... and save some of the pen for tomorrow.
by kindred on Aug 9, 2008 5:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
if he keeps this up, i'm sure he will save the pen
beautiful pitching Welley
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
by gdm426 on Aug 9, 2008 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
good job welly
one more PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
by ANDYAK47 on Aug 9, 2008 5:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Make a wish
Never wanted to ruin a make a wish foundation kid’s day more than today… What’s welly’s pitch count?
by pattimagee on Aug 9, 2008 5:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
85
"Them Cubbies can kiss my ass" -Dizzy Dean
by Molina4MVP on Aug 9, 2008 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
damn...
i was going to say something along the lines of “even make-a-wish can’t do that” when that kid was talking about winning a world series, i figured it was in bad taste, thanks for opening the door for me…
by LukeMP1186 on Aug 9, 2008 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
of course now it's not funny...
but it probably wasn’t to begin with…
by LukeMP1186 on Aug 9, 2008 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
by ANDYAK47 on Aug 9, 2008 5:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
nice job Welley
niiiiice job indeed
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
by gdm426 on Aug 9, 2008 5:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
he has one more inning in him
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
by ANDYAK47 on Aug 9, 2008 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
overflow link
http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2008/8/9/590445/game-119-overflow#comments
"Them Cubbies can kiss my ass" -Dizzy Dean
by Molina4MVP on Aug 9, 2008 5:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
without looking at his splits
to my eye, Grit looks a lot better as a right-handed batter
by the Tewk on Aug 9, 2008 5:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
coming in hlafway
it’s cool to come into the thread after half the game, and reading the posts about the lineup, lopez, glaus at 6th, etc.
maybe it’s luck, or maybe,just maybe tlr isn’t a total moron?
we still have a lot of games against the scrubs,and it ain’t over till it’s over
A man's got to know his limitations
by stlsports on Aug 9, 2008 5:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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