But, I have a feeling he got pissed at LaRussa last year over not playing. Star players often can’t handle taking a back seat to a position they’ve owned for years. We all knew he couldn’t play everyday, LaRussa knew it too, but I’m sure Jim refused to see it.

We complain about Duncan and Izzy hiding injuries and continuing to play, Edmonds is probably pissed he wasn’t allowed to play through it or wasn’t given 100% confidence that he would be able to play this year. Ozzie did the same thing. Hate LaRussa if you want, but he did the right thing with Jim and probably with Ozzie.

it says nothing about the fans, does it?

Maybe he thinks that upper management (AKA -The Cardinal orginization) sides with Tony in this feud. Until he comes out and says he is done with those of us who have loved him for years, I am not gonna get mad at Jim for being the next in line in “who is Tony gonna piss of next?”

This wasn’t a prepared statement that Jim gave at a podium after the game, it was a reactionary comment made on the field. Point being that I’ve made many statements in my life that didn’t come across exactly as I meant for them to, maybe this was the case maybe not.

Really the 8 Gold Gloves is all he has going for him and that didn’t get Royals 2b baseman Frank White into the HOF.

Frank White was a bad hitter. Jimmy has slugged over .500 ten times in his career (and over .600 twice). ASG appearances are a poor benchmark…in 2004, Jim OPSed over 1.000 and didn’t make the team. It was his career year. He was also the best CF in the game from 2000-2005 – I’d say he has that going for him, even if he is a borderline candidate.

The least he could have done is said, “I’m not on the cardinals anymore” and moved on, but “I’m (censored) done with . . .” sounds like dumping a girlfriend into the street with not a care in the world, and with that goes any friendship you had with her family and friends. Silly analogy, but think about it.

Don’t see how. I stand up and cheer for all the returning Cardinals.

You feel the same about Taguchi? Or Polanco?

but how he apparently said it.

If he had said “I’m done on the Cards, I’m done with you guys”, then…ok, I kinda get it.

The ‘I’m $(*$##$# done with the Cardinals’ is the rub.

that is what i’m mad about. saying he’s done with the Cardinals is saying he’s done with us fans too. fine. if thats how he wants to play, then thats how we’ll play. if he wants to be a loser flub so badly, then let him be a loser flub. enjoy your fall collapse Hollywood. and dont come crying to us when they kick your ass to the curb come winter.

I’ve never been there before. So I’m not sure if I can be done with something I never started.

Irregardless…

And if everyone in the office does want to go to F15teen for lunch one day.. Im not tipping.

I would too if I were a yuppie douchebag who went there to begin with.

don’t say that he is done with the Cardinals. This goes back to ‘he did so much for the organization/the organization did so much for him’. Whether he believes one or the other, to pop off like that at the organization, an organization I root for and have my entire life is crossing a line.

I don’t care that he is on the Cubs. I hope he hits 70 more career HRs and gets into the HOF. I didn’t hate him because he signed there. I probably never will ‘hate him’. But saying stuff like ‘I’m fucking done with the Cardinals’ doesn’t work for me.

Something tells me this “feud” runs a little deeper than just Tony vs. Jim. I kind of wonder if Jim has problems with others in the organization that we don’t know about yet. I’m sure Tony is a big portion of his feelings but I wouldn’t rule out that there is more to this story.

one way or another. But it’s a very odd thing to say considering he owns a restaurant here, just got married here, and is looking to buy a farm here.

Maybe it’s just the concussions talking, maybe his feud with Tony was more than the old married couple that makes fun of each other as it was portraied, or maybe he fucking hates Steve Savard, but it was a very odd thing to say.

I petition all Cardinal fans to put this thing in perspective. When his career is over I am sure he will look back fondly at his best years. His years with the Cardinals. I for one will always love Jim Edmonds

Unless he conducts himself in a way that diminishes what he did as a Cardinal. Playing a certain way? No. Willie Mays played for the Mets, was awful, crawled to 1st base and never diminished what he did with the Giants.

But the way Edmonds conducts himself towards the Cardinals on a personal level will change the way he is viewed by Cardinals fans.

Don’t take this as any kind of political statement, just a reference point. Bill Clinton was an immensely popular President, whether you agree with his politics or not. However, the way he has conducted himself over the last 2 years has drastically changed the way certain circles look at his legacy. 50 years from now will anyone remember? Probably not. But he has damaged a fairly popular public image.

The dripping irony of your post ‘Emote much’ is too much for me to bare. Good job, sir!

that has almost 70 comments in less than 24 hours.

You should be so lucky….

But I do think it’s borderline arrogance for people to feel personally offended by this and say that he swore “us” off. We are not the St. Louis Cardinals. In the same way that the fans have no feud with Edmonds, Edmonds has no feud with the fans. The problems are internal in the organization, and when Edmonds says he’s done with the Cardinals, he’s not talking about the fans.

Not Jimmy’s most classy moment, but I certainly don’t think it’s necessarily unprovoked and I don’t think that anyone should really feel like he was pointing the finger at the fanbase.

He most certainly has turned his back on us. Shame shame.

/sarcasm

in a year that they’re winning . . .

but seriously, it’s true. I’ve lived all across the country, and it’s impossible to tell west coast fans about the intensity of baseball in the midwest. It’s like a whole different world in Chicago and St. Louis. Baseball is life.

Cubs’ fans love their team as much as Cards’ fans do? Let’s get him!

“Cardinals” doesn’t mean “Cardinals Nation.” I believe he specifically means the organization, perhaps specifically TLR. I don’t know how he could mean us. Either way, it makes me sad. I wish that something would take place that clarifies the situation in a positive way.

What’s with this randomly super defensive stance of Jim Edmonds? Was I insulted? Yes. Do I think Jim Edmonds needs to come to my house and apologize to me? No. He’s a million dollar athlete with a wife, multiple homes and business ventures. How I feel about him matters very little to me.

But if he’s done with St. Louis, stop sending text messages to his BFF to have read on FSN Midwest. Pull a Carlton and don’t come around the ballpark anymore unless it’s time for them to blow it up. If he’s done with the Cardinals, we can fondly look at his picture hanging on the walls of the club level but don’t have any expectation of coming back to St. Louis, stand in the building that is owned by the Cardinals organization and look for adoration to pour over him from the fans.

If he’s done with the Cardinals, thanks for the memories Jimmy. Now beat it.

i was thinkin it too..but theres always tom.

and he did. i listen every day, but i really wanted to hear what he said this morning. now for those who dont know, Edmonds owns part of InsideSTL.com. their headquarters are in the top level of Jim’s restaurant F15teen. needless to say, Tim & Jim are tight. but i feel after hearing Tim & reading his article he really is a trusted source on this story. yes he’s friends & business partners with Edmonds, but he’s also a good friend of Mike Claiborne. he really has no dog in this “fight”. he’s friends with both & doesn’t want either guy to be the bad guy here.

i’m going to back peddle here. after hearing Jim’s side of it, i still think he said it, but i think it was taken out of context. he’s pulled this stuff before & in fact has said a lot worse just to get out of a post game interview. listen to this clip, Jim Hayes of FSN Midwest backs that up big time. my beef with Edmonds is that he knew what he was saying & he just didn’t think that it was that big of a deal. he should know you dont drop “i’m fucking done with the Cardinals.” when you are wearing that jersey after you have done what he’s done wearing the Birds On The Bat. i get it, he’s pissed at Tony. fine be pissed at Tony. but choose your words more wisely, dont lump all of the Cardinals in with your beef with one guy.

now did we all overreact? probably. knowing what i now know, i really think it’s no big deal. listen for yourself, read the article & make up your own mind. i dont think we are going to get a better look inside the mind of Edmonds when he said that as he walked off the field, unless he comes out & tells us in a interview. which at this point i can’t see him doing. at least until he comes back to town in September.