Jim Edmonds turns on St. Louis
In probably the dumbest business decision of his career, Edmonds disowns St. Louis media and the Cardinals organization after today's game:
No, what he did was this, according to Mike Claiborne of KTRS:
When FSN's Brent Stover and Claiborne (KTRS) approached Edmonds after the game for a quickie on-field interview that has become standard procedure for MLB rights holders, Edmonds blew them off and said:
"I'm (censored) done with St. Louis TV and radio and I'm (censored) done with the Cardinals."
And then he walked into the Cubs dugout. -B
I've got no problem with what Jimmy does as a baseball player on the field. If he goes 4 for 4 with 4 Grand Slams vs the Cardinals, so what. That's his job, that is what he is supposed to do.
However, this is different entirely. A couple Cubs fans asked me a few weeks ago, "Don't you hate Jim Edmonds now that he is a Cub?" I said, to them, how could I hate Edmonds just because of the team he plays on?
But, if he really did say what Claiborne and Stover say he said, I'm done with Jim 'There is more to life than Baseball' Edmonds.
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Wow
1) Had his best years with the Cards
2) Fans adored him
3) Won a World Series w/ St Louis
4) Fans adored him
I cant believe he would say such a thing. Now if he said, “Im F’ing done w/ Larussa”, I could empathize but not what was said above.
by njnick on Aug 8, 2008 9:18 PM EDT 0 recs
Agreed.
Hate the manager, not the city.
I’m sure he’ll get a nice ovation tomorrow.
by craig3410 on
Aug 8, 2008 9:19 PM EDT
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Was going
to get one regardless but now it will be that much louder. He needs to get plunked.
by njnick on Aug 8, 2008 9:24 PM EDT 0 recs
Is it true that the source of this little feud a personal conflict with LaRussa?
I haven’t followed all the sordid details, but that’s the impression I’m getting.
LaRussa’s a great manager; he really seems to be amazing at getting the best out of (most of) his players, especially when they can adopt an underdog/fighter attitude; and I’m willing to give him the benefit of the doubt on a good portion of his questionable decisions, because lord knows LaRussa knows more about baseball than I do.
But one thing I will most definitely not miss when he moves on is the freaking drama. It seems like every week there’s a new soap opera plot unfolding between LaRussa and player, or LaRussa and a reporter, or LaRussa and an opposing team member, or LaRussa and the local garbageman. Damn, that gets old.
by BTown Birds fan on Aug 8, 2008 9:26 PM EDT 0 recs
Again, if it was a TLR feud he could have called just him out
and not the entire freakin’ team.
by craig3410 on
Aug 8, 2008 9:27 PM EDT
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Edmonds
got his wish and was traded to the West Coast. It seems the team did right by him. Plus, look at the Cards outfield this year, where would he expect to play? Cant platoon w/ Ankiel. He needs to move on just like the Cards did.
by njnick on
Aug 8, 2008 9:31 PM EDT
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He was told he would platoon with Ankiel
and he asked to be traded, preferably to the West Coast.
If he seriously has that big a beef with LaRussa and that bat flip today was directed at LaRussa, LaRussa should order Edmonds tower buzzed. You can’t let someone treat you like that.
by Hardcore Legend on
Aug 8, 2008 9:34 PM EDT
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Who would have hit lefties?
I agree, he needs to get hit. Im sure Wellys ball would not feel so great.
by njnick on
Aug 8, 2008 9:42 PM EDT
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Screw That
Let me throw one at his head…from 10 feet away
by pujols_5 on
Aug 8, 2008 10:21 PM EDT
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Platoon? Not even that...
Since both are lefties (Skip and Duncan as well), basically Edmonds would never play except when Ankiel is hurt.
So basically he was looking at zero playing time, and more likely a forced retirement, a la Ozzie Smith (and Ray Lankford, the 2nd time around).
If a team decides they no longer want a player any more, why should that player continue to be loyal to that team? Why doesn’t loyalty run both ways? And why is it some players continue to be run out there even though they probably should have retired (Izzy), while others get pushed out? (Ozzie, Lankford, Rolen, and now Edmonds?)
by DiscoJer on
Aug 8, 2008 10:00 PM EDT
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In Izzy's case. Well
that may not be true…see Motte/Perez
by njnick on
Aug 8, 2008 10:16 PM EDT
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Disagree
Rolen did not get pushed out. He was underperforming and was traded for someone who has been a nice addition for this team. I dont know how anyone could complain about the Rolen/Glaus trade unless you live in Toronto.
by njnick on
Aug 8, 2008 10:23 PM EDT
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What were the Cardinals supposed to do?
They told Edmonds he would be a platoon player for the remainder of his contract after he had put up some dreadful lines post-concussion.
by Hardcore Legend on
Aug 8, 2008 10:30 PM EDT
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but
he platoons in chicago. just wish more patience had prevailed on by both sides before shipping him to sd. this shit with tlr is just more bs generated by tlr. i will not be sorry to see him go. bob melvin? pop warner?
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
by sportsman on
Aug 9, 2008 12:33 PM EDT
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He's also embraced hitting to the opposite field
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
by Tackle Box on
Aug 9, 2008 2:00 PM EDT
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Yeah, I'm not trying to justify Edmonds' comments
And in the offseason I was under the impression that Edmonds left the team on pretty friendly terms, so I don’t know what’s up with him now. It just seems like everything these days (I know, not really everything…) is a TLR feud, and that gets a little tired after the first few dozen variations.
by BTown Birds fan on
Aug 8, 2008 9:34 PM EDT
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Hey, consider too that maybe he DIDN'T say what they said he said.
He does still have a business here, he has married a gal from the area, and still has a home here. I don’t blame him for being mad at LaRussa, he made some really jerky comments about Edmonds when the Cubs were here-it worked, because Edmonds went 0-for the series…...It sure fired him up today..
I would just suggest before you get too upset with him, make sure that he said what they say he said, that he meant it the way they say he did. He had a really good relationship with the media in this town for years-it just sounds odd to me. Or go ahead and hate him if you want…...
She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.
by jillsinmo on
Aug 8, 2008 9:49 PM EDT
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I don't know if that was directed at me personally since it was a reply to me,
but I never said anything even remotely suggesting that I “hate” him, unless that’s your own unique interpretation of the phrase “I don’t know what’s up with him.” But I certainly take your point that we don’t know exactly what he said or if there was some context that might change the overall vibe of the comments.
But it does seem fairly clear that at the very least there’s some beef between him and LaRussa that seems to be at least partly playing itself out through their comments to the media. My initial point, and really my only point with my posts here, is that LaRussa sure seems to have beefs with a lot of people, and that drama gets old fast, IMO.
by BTown Birds fan on
Aug 8, 2008 10:13 PM EDT
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Hating Larussa
I have no problem if Jimmy hates Larussa. Some nights I do too. But he should have been more specific in his comments.
by njnick on
Aug 8, 2008 10:17 PM EDT
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Of course it might have been
one of those in the heat of the moment deals. I for one know that if I am in a pissy mood and someone brings up someone I really can’t stand, sometimes I have the same type of attitude and response. I was pissed at JEd when I read that this morning, but once you think about it , it all does kinda make sense (if the Tony-Jimmy feud can make any sense, that is).
Jimmy overreacts
Tony overreacts
I suppose it is just human nature that we overreact too.
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on
Aug 9, 2008 9:28 AM EDT
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No, it wasn't directed at you. I was actually replying to the main post. I'll be more careful next time.
Sorry.
There is some bad blood between the two…..it’s stupid and childish and immature, and I’m sure it will continue as long as LaRussa is here and as long as Edmonds plays in the NL…....
She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.
by jillsinmo on
Aug 8, 2008 10:31 PM EDT
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Now that was supposed to be for BTown Birds fan.....
Ever since the platform switch, I get confused where comments show up….
She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.
by jillsinmo on
Aug 8, 2008 10:33 PM EDT
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I got it, jillsinmo, and thanks for the clarification
I definitely agree it seems childish; so did a lot of the stuff between Rolen and TLR, and a lot of stuff between the media and TLR. As you point out, we don’t know all the behind-the-scenes details, but I see a pattern….
by BTown Birds fan on
Aug 8, 2008 10:37 PM EDT
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It was done correctly
you were just the second person to respond to BTown Birds fan.
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
by Tackle Box on
Aug 8, 2008 11:00 PM EDT
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I agree with you totally Jills
as of now, without definite proof, I don’t even believe it happened as reported.
by ridgesee on
Aug 9, 2008 12:28 PM EDT
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I believe the quote was provided by Bernie
Unless Bernie publishes a retraction, the quote is what you use as proof. My read on what he is saying is he is pissed, not at LaRussa, but at the STL media for making so much of the issue last month. He is a Cub now not an ex-Cardinal and does not want to talk about STL any more.
LaRussa even took the media to task for trying to make a story that didn’t exist. This was in the story about Friday’s game.
Edmonds, apparently no longer on speaking terms with his former manager after receiving a public scolding through the media last month, appeared to flip his bat at the Cardinals dugout after posing in admiration of his second-inning shot. Edmonds later attributed the bat flip to excess pine tar on his hands. La Russa played down the whole thing.“Everybody flips the bat,” he said. “Why do you want to stir up stuff like that? He’s been a good player his whole career and he had a good day. I didn’t notice. ... that’s just the way the game is today.”
by ubeddie on
Aug 9, 2008 9:09 PM EDT
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Well then what do you consider "definite proof?"
When will you be convinced? Do you actually have to hear him say it? I mean, I bring my umbrella with me to work whenever the weather forecast tells me there’s a chance of rain. And that’s just a prediction of what will happen.
by Ray Lankford on
Aug 10, 2008 9:43 PM EDT
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I'm really starting to think it's more than just a feud with LaRussa.
Can’t prove it but I have the feeling there is more to this than what we know. Not sure if something happened before he was traded in the off season or what but I think he is pissed at Cardinals upper management/ownership as well. I haven’t heard of any bad feelings with players but it wouldn’t suprise me if something like this starts to piss some of his “friends” off too.
I have also gotten the feeling by listening to Shannon & Rooney that there is something up with Jimmy & the Cards that hasn’t been told. Shannon the ultimate Cardinal fan/employee hasn’t really been real kind with Jimmy. Anybody hear the call when Ankiel made that diving catch it was something along the lines of “Forget Jimmy Edmonds that is the best you will ever see.” Conspiracy stuff I know but these latest turns of events it really makes you wonder.
I REALLY doubt there will be any “Jim Edmonds Day” at Busch Stadium in the future and if he can somehow talk the HOF into it I bet he will try his best to not go in as a Cardinal if he makes the HOF. DUMB move Jimmy Hollywood…DUMB move.
by KYCards on Aug 8, 2008 9:54 PM EDT 0 recs
That seems extreme
I think this weekend blows over. But, if this happens in the playoffs all bets are off.
by njnick on
Aug 8, 2008 10:18 PM EDT
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Well, he doesn't have a choice in what hat he wears IF he gets into the Hall
But, I have a feeling he got pissed at LaRussa last year over not playing. Star players often can’t handle taking a back seat to a position they’ve owned for years. We all knew he couldn’t play everyday, LaRussa knew it too, but I’m sure Jim refused to see it.
We complain about Duncan and Izzy hiding injuries and continuing to play, Edmonds is probably pissed he wasn’t allowed to play through it or wasn’t given 100% confidence that he would be able to play this year. Ozzie did the same thing. Hate LaRussa if you want, but he did the right thing with Jim and probably with Ozzie.
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
by Tackle Box on
Aug 8, 2008 11:05 PM EDT
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Edmonds and Rolen
I loved all the memories they gave us in Red, but the end was ugly. Two guys who seemed to be nothing but for the team when they were here made some ultimate me moves and hold the Cards responsible.
The best thing they can do is win this series. Skip retaliation, skip the bull crap just win. Course e was there offense so getting him tossed may not be a bad idea.
I’m ticked tomorrow I have Yanks Angels..
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
by punchinjudy on Aug 8, 2008 11:04 PM EDT 0 recs
Edmonds was one of my favorite Cardinals / players ever
but I’m starting to lose a lot of respect for the guy. TLR is one thing but St. Louis TV AND the Cardinals extend far beyond management and the front office—they are both members of the fanbase. They are both part of who cheered loyally for him for years, even when he left.
Say what you want about management, front office, player, but saying that about SL TV and the Cardinals as a whole is also a shot in the face to the fans.
On with the (good) youth movement!
by aet15 on Aug 8, 2008 11:23 PM EDT 0 recs
in fairness to Jimmy
it says nothing about the fans, does it?
Maybe he thinks that upper management (AKA -The Cardinal orginization) sides with Tony in this feud. Until he comes out and says he is done with those of us who have loved him for years, I am not gonna get mad at Jim for being the next in line in “who is Tony gonna piss of next?”
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on
Aug 9, 2008 9:33 AM EDT
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Dude just got married in STL
This makes little sense. I could see how he would have been pissed off by Bernie’s column (STL media) exhorting him to boo Edmonds; I could see how Bernie could twist a quotation to get his readers to see that BERNIE WAS RIGHT ALL ALONG on that score.
He’s having a big and unexpected season back from the brink and he just had a huge game against a team that thought they had no room for it. I can’t blame him much for wanting to get out of the STL spotlight and into his clubhouse. If he says the same thing at the end of the year, I’ll change my mind.
by liam on Aug 8, 2008 11:24 PM EDT 0 recs
I think you hit on a key point in that last sentence
This wasn’t a prepared statement that Jim gave at a podium after the game, it was a reactionary comment made on the field. Point being that I’ve made many statements in my life that didn’t come across exactly as I meant for them to, maybe this was the case maybe not.
by MotherTruckinSteve on
Aug 9, 2008 2:22 AM EDT
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exactly
you two make that statement in a much clearer way than I could this morning.
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on
Aug 9, 2008 9:34 AM EDT
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About Jimmy and the HOF
After closer look….big season or not for the Cubs there is no way he makes it in in my opinion. J. Hollywood is under 2,000 hits and will need 130 more to even get there. It will be hard for writers to vote a guy in under 2,000 hits. He’s 23 HRs shy of 400 which is doable for him if he stays healthy….but I doubt that will get him into the Hall either. Really the 8 Gold Gloves is all he has going for him and that didn’t get Royals 2b baseman Frank White into the HOF. He has never been a MVP and has only been an All-Star 4 times. Unless he does a Reggie Jackson and hits 3 HRs in a World Series game for the Cubs to win the series….his chances of getting to the HOF are VERY slim to none. So there really won’t be any need for Jim to come back to St. Louis after he retires anyways for any career celebrations.
by KYCards on Aug 8, 2008 11:39 PM EDT 0 recs
Frank White?
Really the 8 Gold Gloves is all he has going for him and that didn’t get Royals 2b baseman Frank White into the HOF.
Frank White was a bad hitter. Jimmy has slugged over .500 ten times in his career (and over .600 twice). ASG appearances are a poor benchmark…in 2004, Jim OPSed over 1.000 and didn’t make the team. It was his career year. He was also the best CF in the game from 2000-2005 – I’d say he has that going for him, even if he is a borderline candidate.
by jdub176 on
Aug 9, 2008 12:30 AM EDT
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I was using White as a Gold Glove comparison only... who also won 8 gold gloves
not comparing him as a hitter to Jimmy. I was pointing out that having 8 gold gloves by itself is not a lock for the HOF.
To me Jimmy would need to get at least 2,300 hits and 400 hrs + to even have a chance at the HOF and there is no way he will come close to get the total hits. When guys like Dave Parker, Andre Dawson, and Dale Murphy can’t get into the HOF. He doesn’t have a chance in my opinion. I don’t think it’s even borderline to be honest.
by KYCards on
Aug 9, 2008 12:44 AM EDT
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not comparing him as a hitter to Jimmy. I was pointing out that having 8 gold gloves by itself is not a lock for the HOF.
Why is that even necessary to point out when we know that Edmonds has far more to offer than his 8 gold gloves, and White really didn’t?
When guys like Dave Parker, Andre Dawson, and Dale Murphy can’t get into the HOF. He doesn’t have a chance in my opinion
I’ve always thought Edmonds was severely underrated on the national scene, but among Cardinals fans as well? You do realize he is better than those three, right? Look at their stats. Edmonds got on-base more than any of them, hit for more power, and was a better defender.
And to put some icing on the cake:
RC/G (career)
Edmonds: 7.4
Dawson: 5.4
Murphy: 5.7
Parker: 5.5
Dawson will probably make it to the HOF within the next few years. Murphy and Parker won’t. Actually, look at another player from that era – Jim Rice. He’s the quintessential borderline player….but Edmonds is better than him, too. To say that he doesn’t have a chance or that he’s not even borderline is kind of absurd when you take this stuff into consideration.
by jdub176 on
Aug 9, 2008 3:59 AM EDT
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I still think the thing that really hurts Jim's chance with the voters
will be his hits total. Guys that don’t get at least 2,300 hits are not going to be considered. And in this day and age if guys don’t even reach 2,500 hits they have a tough time getting serious consideration with the voters. If Jim could have got around 2.500 hits I think we would have a great shot of getting in. I don’t think voters will look at his RC/G (career). to be honest. Getting 400 Hrs will boost his chances but I still think his total hit total will be his downfall.
I think Jimmy will get some votes. Maybe enough to keep him on the ballot for a few years. But he just won’t have the “key stats” that voters like to get him 75% of the vote in my opinion. Of course alot of his chances will also have to do with who else will be on the ballot for his first year on the ballot. If it is a weak year of candidates he will get more of a look but I don’t think that will even tip the scale in his favor.
by KYCards on
Aug 9, 2008 3:48 PM EDT
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you're talking about two different things.
kycards appears to be talking primarily about whether he WILL get in (e.g., “voters will look at,” “voters don’t consider,” etc.), while jdub is talking about whether he SHOULD (e.g., rc/9). i think both of you are actually correct: he’s better than the guys jdub cites, so if, e.g., rice and dawson get in, edmonds should, too. but kycards is right in that i don’t think his chances are as good as rice’s, for example, simply because the HOF voters are still atrocious when it comes to proper valuation.
actually e'contending mang
by nycbirdo on
Aug 11, 2008 3:33 PM EDT
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yeah
Looking over things, I think you’re right. I was just making sure to set the record straight regarding Parker, Murphy, and Dawson.
by jdub176 on
Aug 11, 2008 3:57 PM EDT
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i don't get the outrage
he said “ST Louis TV and media” and “the cardinals”, not “st louis”. He IS done with the cardinals, and he has no reason to suck up to STL media anymore.
then again, that works both ways. I thought it was borderline unsportmanlike for STL fans to give him an ovation when he returned. He’s wearing blue now; that means you kick him in the chin and give no quarter when he’s in your city. You don’t cheer for him, even if he was a great player for your team.
"..and that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana shaped." -Sir Belvedere
by SleepyCA on Aug 8, 2008 11:51 PM EDT 0 recs
St Louis TV doesn't equal St. Louis?
The least he could have done is said, “I’m not on the cardinals anymore” and moved on, but “I’m (censored) done with . . .” sounds like dumping a girlfriend into the street with not a care in the world, and with that goes any friendship you had with her family and friends. Silly analogy, but think about it.
On with the (good) youth movement!
by aet15 on
Aug 9, 2008 12:14 AM EDT
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Unsportsmanlike?
Don’t see how. I stand up and cheer for all the returning Cardinals.
You feel the same about Taguchi? Or Polanco?
by liam on
Aug 9, 2008 12:45 AM EDT
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they didn't go to the cubs,
they didn’t specifically say they wanted to go to the cubs, and they didn’t say “fuck st. louis (anything).” that’s the difference.
actually e'contending mang
by nycbirdo on
Aug 11, 2008 3:35 PM EDT
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It's not what he said
but how he apparently said it.
If he had said “I’m done on the Cards, I’m done with you guys”, then…ok, I kinda get it.
The ‘I’m $(*$##$# done with the Cardinals’ is the rub.
by Hardcore Legend on
Aug 9, 2008 12:58 AM EDT
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focus on the "I'm F'ing done with the Cardinals" part
that is what i’m mad about. saying he’s done with the Cardinals is saying he’s done with us fans too. fine. if thats how he wants to play, then thats how we’ll play. if he wants to be a loser flub so badly, then let him be a loser flub. enjoy your fall collapse Hollywood. and dont come crying to us when they kick your ass to the curb come winter.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
by gdm426 on
Aug 9, 2008 1:42 AM EDT
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Exactly
It’s our team just as much as theirs. Disrespect the Birds on the Bat, and you disrespect me. Period.
Miles in '08
by Zoop on
Aug 11, 2008 1:26 AM EDT
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Oh snap!
Well, I’m done with his restaurant.
My fellow Americans. As a young boy, I dreamed of being a baseball, but tonight I say, we must move forward, not backward, upward not forward, and always twirling, twirling, twirling towards freedom.
by Alxfritz on Aug 9, 2008 12:45 AM EDT 0 recs
Actually, now that I think of it,
I’ve never been there before. So I’m not sure if I can be done with something I never started.
Irregardless…
My fellow Americans. As a young boy, I dreamed of being a baseball, but tonight I say, we must move forward, not backward, upward not forward, and always twirling, twirling, twirling towards freedom.
by Alxfritz on
Aug 9, 2008 12:47 AM EDT
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Regardless
I know, nitpick and all. But “irregardless” isn’t a word. Besides, “ir” + “less” is double negative territory.
Don’t take it the wrong way. It’s just that I’ve seen it here on this site a couple of times in the past couple of days and it always catches my attention.
In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.
by Tackle Box on
Aug 9, 2008 2:17 AM EDT
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Yeah, it's a moot point.
My fellow Americans. As a young boy, I dreamed of being a baseball, but tonight I say, we must move forward, not backward, upward not forward, and always twirling, twirling, twirling towards freedom.
by Alxfritz on
Aug 9, 2008 2:26 AM EDT
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don't you mean a mooo point?
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
by gdm426 on
Aug 9, 2008 3:17 AM EDT
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I meant mute.
Damn langage!
My fellow Americans. As a young boy, I dreamed of being a baseball, but tonight I say, we must move forward, not backward, upward not forward, and always twirling, twirling, twirling towards freedom.
by Alxfritz on
Aug 9, 2008 11:02 AM EDT
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no
you were right. moot point is correct.
strikeouts from left-center
by Cards Fan in Chitown on
Aug 10, 2008 1:03 PM EDT
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Irregardless.
My fellow Americans. As a young boy, I dreamed of being a baseball, but tonight I say, we must move forward, not backward, upward not forward, and always twirling, twirling, twirling towards freedom.
by Alxfritz on
Aug 10, 2008 5:15 PM EDT
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Strikes me as a joke now
when people use irregardless. Just because it has been picked over so much.
Irrespective of context . . . that’s how it reads to me.
by Youneverknow on
Aug 9, 2008 2:58 AM EDT
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Me too
And if everyone in the office does want to go to F15teen for lunch one day.. Im not tipping.
by Evilfrog on
Aug 9, 2008 10:38 AM EDT
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+1
I would too if I were a yuppie douchebag who went there to begin with.
Miles in '08
by Zoop on
Aug 11, 2008 1:27 AM EDT
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A lot of people are overreacting to this
He’s pissed off that LaRussa treated him so dickishly. He’s also pissed b/c he feels like both he and LaRussa have been baited by the St. Louis media. Whether or not the media did bait them or whether they were just doing their jobs, he’s upset w/ them. So what?
I didn’t get all those “Cards’ fans” who now hated Edmonds for signing w/ the Cubs. A lot of supposed Cards’ fans thought he should have retired rather than play for the Cubs. That’s asinine!
As for this stuff w/ LaRussa, he’s got a right to be pissed. Tony acted completely classlessly and he has a right to tell Tony to go f-himself. Some here want to split hairs between being pissed at Tony vs. being pissed at the Cardinals and take it as a personal insult that he “wants nothing to do w/ the Cardinals.” He didn’t insult me, you, or any other Cards’ fans so don’t take it personally. Want to separate Tony from the Cards? Good luck! Tony LaRussa IS the St. Louis Cardinals.
I’m an Edmonds fan. I have been since we acquired him and I always will be an Edmonds fan. It was time to get rid of him but I wish him all the success in the world. Tony should have treated him better…period. He deserved better than Tony’s sophomoric rantings. Maybe Tony will one day have the stones to apologize to him, but I doubt it.
But make no mistake, this is between Edmonds and Tony and Edmonds and the media. It’s not about any of us. Quit trying to make it about us.
by chuckb on Aug 9, 2008 1:28 AM EDT 0 recs
Then say he is done with LaRussa
don’t say that he is done with the Cardinals. This goes back to ‘he did so much for the organization/the organization did so much for him’. Whether he believes one or the other, to pop off like that at the organization, an organization I root for and have my entire life is crossing a line.
I don’t care that he is on the Cubs. I hope he hits 70 more career HRs and gets into the HOF. I didn’t hate him because he signed there. I probably never will ‘hate him’. But saying stuff like ‘I’m fucking done with the Cardinals’ doesn’t work for me.
by Hardcore Legend on
Aug 9, 2008 1:36 AM EDT
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ding ding ding
HL’s right. he said he’s done with the Cards, so fine. if he’s done with us, then we should be done with him.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
by gdm426 on
Aug 9, 2008 1:44 AM EDT
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quick question
What constitutes being “done” with a professional baseball player? Are you going to stop having brunch with him on Saturday mornings? Are you going to throw away your 2004 NLCS game 6 tape? Maybe I’m missing something.
by jdub176 on
Aug 9, 2008 4:14 AM EDT
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make that three.
If he is done with the Cardinals then why should we view him as any different than another ballplayer?
And isn’t it funny how the same Cubs fans who spent 8 years telling us how overrated and juiced he is, now take him as the 2nd savior?
As far as fueding with TLR goes…. It seems to me that players that have been here for awhile(Ozzie, Jimmy, Rolen) expect to have their starting job for as long as they want it. Even if it handicaps the team. To me that shows a lack of caring about the team’s results and them placing more importance on themselves.
And as great as he was yesterday, today could always be one of his famous 0-4 3k’s game.

