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Game 117 Open Thread: August 7 2008

Los Angeles Dodgers at St. Louis Cardinals, Aug 7, 2008 2:15 PM EDT


Kershaw Lohse
1-3, 4.02 13-3, 3.73

kershaw, you may recall, made his big-league debut against the cardinals in may and pitched pretty well, yielding two runs and 6 baserunners in 6 innings while striking out 7. he has had a very unlucky year. at double A this year he has made 11 starts with a 1.91 era, 0.95 whip, and 0 homers allowed in 61+ innings . . . . but just a 2-3 record. in 11 starts for the dodgers he hasn't been bad at all --- 4.02 era, and an opponent batting line of .278 / .366 / .390 --- but he only has 1 win, which came a couple of starts ago vs the nats. he's gone 6 shutout innings in each of his last 2 starts. kershaw combines high strikeout rates with high groundball rates, a la chris carpenter and brandon webb; if he's on, he will be a tough assignment for the st louis offense.

lohse in st. louis this year: 2.92 era and an opponent line of .225 / .270 / .357. lohse on the road: 5.16 era and an opponent line of .335 / .374 / .500.

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You always remember your first first

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 7, 2008 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lineup....

Izturis, SS
Mather, CF
Albert, 1B
Lud, RF
Glaus, 3B
Lopez, LF
Larue, C
Lohse, P
Miles, 2B

Wow, those last 4 are sexy, aren’t they?

by goodymobb on Aug 7, 2008 2:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

you know you wish you could grow a 'stache like Larue

or have GRIT like Miles
or Pitch like Lohse
or.. uh… don’t have anything for Lopez

"I have CDO. It's like OCD, but the letters are in alphabetical order. Like they should be."

by BigMOman on Aug 7, 2008 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

FWIW....

I CAN grow (and have grown) a ‘stache like Larue….but only for very special occasions (e.g., a trip to the local dog track; a departmental chili party).

Miles’ GRIT is well out of my reach.

by goodymobb on Aug 7, 2008 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Aside from.....

Molina, how can we have put a better lineup out there?

I bet we score 5+ runs today.

by SoonerfanTU on Aug 7, 2008 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll take that bet

500 internet dollars

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 7, 2008 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll take that bet for 50 cyber dollars.......

Lohse has his work cutout for him today.

by goodymobb on Aug 7, 2008 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hear

cyber dollars are taking a hit on the market today. You may want to invest in internet dollars instead.

On with the (good) youth movement!

by aet15 on Aug 7, 2008 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you lost that bet

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Aug 7, 2008 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I actually don't mind the lineup tonight

I can’t rememer the last time LaRue started, but I want Molina for the Cubs.

I hate Lopez, but Skip’s defense doesn’t make up for his lack of offense against Lefties.

Iz2 is actually a legit threat against lefties.

We won’t score much, but this is the best lineup we can field.

by TheBirds on Aug 7, 2008 2:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm an emotional guy

no middle ground with me, he certainly hasn’t given me a reason to like him.

by TheBirds on Aug 7, 2008 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

"We won’t score much, but this is the best lineup we can field."

Sadly, you’re right. Yuck.

The frustrating thing is that you KNOW you’re gonna get some “throwaway” lineups when TLR is your manager, so you roll with it. What is irritating is that this isn’t even necessarily a “throwaway” lineup…it’s the best thing we have.

by goodymobb on Aug 7, 2008 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd say having Yadi and Ankiel

in there would be the best we could have.

My fellow Americans. As a young boy, I dreamed of being a baseball, but tonight I say, we must move forward, not backward, upward not forward, and always twirling, twirling, twirling towards freedom.

by Alxfritz on Aug 7, 2008 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I read that quickly, mistook the "L" for and "I"

and thought you said Ankiel should have died.

"I have CDO. It's like OCD, but the letters are in alphabetical order. Like they should be."

by BigMOman on Aug 7, 2008 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought so too

I was like why do you want Ankiel dead?

"Even when the rain falls, Even when the flood starts rising, Even when the storm comes, I am washed by the water!" -NeedToBreathe

by Calhoun on Aug 7, 2008 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

“the report of my being on the disabled list was an exaggeration.”

by mattybobo on Aug 7, 2008 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that looks like "died".

In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.

by Tackle Box on Aug 7, 2008 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How about

Miles 2B
Mather LF
Pujols 1B
Ludwick RF
Glaus 3B
LaRue C
Lopez SS
Lohse P
Schumaker CF

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 7, 2008 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was just typing up the same question.

In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.

by Tackle Box on Aug 7, 2008 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nicknames for Lopez?

How about we just watch the game and judge him (or at least nickname him) solely based on first impressions.

"I have CDO. It's like OCD, but the letters are in alphabetical order. Like they should be."

by BigMOman on Aug 7, 2008 2:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Fe-Lo

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 7, 2008 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

how origional

In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.

by Tackle Box on Aug 7, 2008 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Got anything better?

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 7, 2008 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

just because I don't have anything better for a guy I pretty much know nothing about

doesn’t make Fe-Lo a good nickname. For crying out loud, Fe-Lo (Filo) is a type of bread/pastry.

In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.

by Tackle Box on Aug 7, 2008 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Never heard of Filo

Must be a midwestern thing

Also, to TheBirds…If Isringhausen is Izzy, and Izturis is Iz2, I guess Lopez could then be Iz3?

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 7, 2008 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Greek

In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.

by Tackle Box on Aug 7, 2008 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gotcha

No wonder it was Greek to me

link

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 7, 2008 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

no kidding

why the rush to make up a nickname anyway?

In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.

by Tackle Box on Aug 7, 2008 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

b/c that's what VEB does

thought it would be a fun conversation starter.

"I have CDO. It's like OCD, but the letters are in alphabetical order. Like they should be."

by BigMOman on Aug 7, 2008 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Compromise:

The Fliz

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 7, 2008 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Geez.....

Man crush on Barry much?

by SoonerfanTU on Aug 7, 2008 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We have one.....

But right now, he’s forced to play CF due to an injury.

by SoonerfanTU on Aug 7, 2008 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

so uh.,.. (can't believe I'm saying this)

WannaBB? (wanna be Barry Bonds)

"I have CDO. It's like OCD, but the letters are in alphabetical order. Like they should be."

by BigMOman on Aug 7, 2008 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Flo......

is what they call Flores

"Even when the rain falls, Even when the flood starts rising, Even when the storm comes, I am washed by the water!" -NeedToBreathe

by Calhoun on Aug 7, 2008 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

swiss2

as in, swiss army knife. reference to earlier thread… not terribly clever… why did i even post this?

by mattybobo on Aug 7, 2008 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I dont know

why did you? lol

"Even when the rain falls, Even when the flood starts rising, Even when the storm comes, I am washed by the water!" -NeedToBreathe

by Calhoun on Aug 7, 2008 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good thing for us the Dodgers are leading off with

Sir Walks-a-not

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 7, 2008 2:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I still hate Jeff Kent

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 7, 2008 2:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Throw away lineup

This lineup is no different than any other lineup the Cardinals throw out there everyday except for Molina. I’ll take a guy batting .308/.374 leading off anyday. Some of you guys…...................

by llabyellov on Aug 7, 2008 2:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

HE. IS. HURT.

Heck, I wish Babe Ruth were in there.

by SoonerfanTU on Aug 7, 2008 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

who's the leadoff hitter that's hitting 308/.374?

Maybe I’m looking at different stats for Cesar…...

by goodymobb on Aug 7, 2008 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

not according to the splits from ESPN.com's gamecast link....

Cesar sports a .286 avg hitting right-handed (which is a good bit better than his .199 from the other side), with a .350 OBP (and a .698 OPS fwiw).

Granted, if you’re gonna play Cesar, you want him hitting RH. I just hate our plethora of MMI.

by goodymobb on Aug 7, 2008 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's hitting .308/.374 as a RHB vs. LHP

Remember he had a few shitty ABs against RHP as a righty

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 7, 2008 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Numbers

Don’t look at overall look at splits vs. LHP. He is decent against LHP.

by llabyellov on Aug 7, 2008 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bonds

Bonds is not an answer! He is a problem.

by llabyellov on Aug 7, 2008 2:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

or a question?

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 7, 2008 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

we don’t want clubhouse cancers around. Whoops, Felipe Lopez.

We don’t want people tied to HGH around. Whoops, Troy Glaus.

We don’t want people around who are mean to reporters. Whoops, Albert Pujols.

We don’t want people around who can’t play defense in LF. Whoops, Chris Duncan.

by Hardcore Legend on Aug 7, 2008 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dude...

The reporters really deserve it from Pujols….......he is a nice guy he just cant stand stupid people….......

"Even when the rain falls, Even when the flood starts rising, Even when the storm comes, I am washed by the water!" -NeedToBreathe

by Calhoun on Aug 7, 2008 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

nicely done

n/t

"Baseball is like church. Many attend, but few understand." -Wes Westrum

by nomar34 on Aug 7, 2008 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ankiel

Ankiel ops .755 against LH

Izturis ops .749 against LH

I know they don’t play the same position. Just saying.

by llabyellov on Aug 7, 2008 2:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Cardinals can't sweep

Why have any sort of momentum.

by TheBirds on Aug 7, 2008 2:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

what happened

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 7, 2008 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lohse better not allow too many.

Our lineup is not capable of getting many runs.

by Egyptian on Aug 7, 2008 2:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

whatevs

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 7, 2008 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How did Lopez look on that play?

Would Skip or Mather have made it?

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 7, 2008 2:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

no

In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.

by Tackle Box on Aug 7, 2008 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What about the throw?

Or was there a throw home?

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 7, 2008 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

kent was running on contact

with two out so he was already halfway home by the time he got the ball

by 916baller on Aug 7, 2008 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you want to dislike Lopez THAT much.....

Just dislike him already, quit looking for reasons.

by SoonerfanTU on Aug 7, 2008 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think so. It was dying fast.

That said, Lopez was pretty far away from it when it fell. Skip would have been closer. He was probably comparable to Mather on that one.

by Egyptian on Aug 7, 2008 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Come on......

He plays where the coaches tell him to play…........they set the defense…...

"Even when the rain falls, Even when the flood starts rising, Even when the storm comes, I am washed by the water!" -NeedToBreathe

by Calhoun on Aug 7, 2008 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

there was no play to be had at the plate

Kent was running on contact (2 outs).

In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.

by Tackle Box on Aug 7, 2008 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lineup

I think someone said the same thing last night and we scored how many?

by llabyellov on Aug 7, 2008 2:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

true

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 7, 2008 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know

I thought that was supposed to be the focal point of this whole new stadium project. Guess not

by madeintaiwan on Aug 7, 2008 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

sounds like how we cleaned our house

when we had guests for Christmas each year

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 7, 2008 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What are you talking about?

The stickball tournament field is going to be complete!

by Egyptian on Aug 7, 2008 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

26-pitch innings

Not a good idea for our last game before a series in Chicago, Kyle

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 7, 2008 2:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

dude

the guy isn’t lights out… although he should be doing better at home I guess. how many runs were given up?

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 7, 2008 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just 1

But if 100 pitches is a good goal, he’ll be at 104 through 4 at this rate

We need a nice deep start

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 7, 2008 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

eh

he’s probably just having a slow start… which he usually does I think

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 7, 2008 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh no

1 run, we’re gonna lose!

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 7, 2008 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Skip

Skip would have been playing Left Center and everyone would have asked where in the world was SKIP on that play.

by llabyellov on Aug 7, 2008 2:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Dude

We won last night remember.

by llabyellov on Aug 7, 2008 2:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Lefties

Lesson to be learned.

Teach your kid to throw left!

by llabyellov on Aug 7, 2008 2:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

only helps if they can throw 90

if not, you severely limit their options in the field.

In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.

by Tackle Box on Aug 7, 2008 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Killer L's

In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.

by Tackle Box on Aug 7, 2008 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

don't discount the 'stache!

"I have CDO. It's like OCD, but the letters are in alphabetical order. Like they should be."

by BigMOman on Aug 7, 2008 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha

perhaps a little sarcasm.

"I have CDO. It's like OCD, but the letters are in alphabetical order. Like they should be."

by BigMOman on Aug 7, 2008 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

anyone see backe vs the cubs yesterday?

gave up 8 runs with 2 outs in the 3rd

by madeintaiwan on Aug 7, 2008 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would have been esctatic had it been against anyone other than the cubs.

In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.

by Tackle Box on Aug 7, 2008 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My favorite was

Derek “Mr. Operation Shutdown” Bell.

In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.

by Tackle Box on Aug 7, 2008 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Make him pay Luddy

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 7, 2008 2:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

honestly...

I’d still walk Pujols, even with Luddy behind him.

"I have CDO. It's like OCD, but the letters are in alphabetical order. Like they should be."

by BigMOman on Aug 7, 2008 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

they just said

ankiel might be ready tomorrow

by 916baller on Aug 7, 2008 2:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I would like to see our current CF show up our former CF this weekend.

"I have CDO. It's like OCD, but the letters are in alphabetical order. Like they should be."

by BigMOman on Aug 7, 2008 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he's been doin it all season

"Ding-dong the wicked witch is dead!" - Wayne Hagin after the cardinals snapped a losing streak

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Aug 7, 2008 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

not quite

with the cubs edmonds has a .969 OPS. he’s found the fountain of youth over there

by Glowsticks on Aug 7, 2008 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

or the fountain of wind and small fields?

"I have CDO. It's like OCD, but the letters are in alphabetical order. Like they should be."

by BigMOman on Aug 7, 2008 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

way to make the guy at least work a little, AP

He had thrown what, like 4 pitches between Cesar and Mather?

by goodymobb on Aug 7, 2008 2:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Glaus needs to find his stroke

Like, right now

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 7, 2008 2:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Don't hold your breath

Ankiel’s been playing tomorrow for a week now.

by llabyellov on Aug 7, 2008 2:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

just a suggestion

if you use the reply button – it’s easier to understand your comments in relation to the original posts.

by TNTinCO on Aug 7, 2008 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's just walking Pu, Lud, and Glaus to get to Lopez

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 7, 2008 2:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nevermind

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 7, 2008 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Throw that helmet!!!

There ya go.

In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.

by Tackle Box on Aug 7, 2008 2:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yes

In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.

by Tackle Box on Aug 7, 2008 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If I were Torre

I would walk Pujols and Ludwick every time through the lineup.

"I have CDO. It's like OCD, but the letters are in alphabetical order. Like they should be."

by BigMOman on Aug 7, 2008 2:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

what about putting Glaus ahead of Albert, then Lud, then Ank?

just trying to get Glaus going….with Albert and Lud behind him, he would see the easiest pitches possible

by hockeyno93 on Aug 7, 2008 2:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Its a common thought to

put a guy in front of Pujols to get him better pitches and increase his production. I’m not necessarily against it in this case, but we shouldn’t get in the habit of having whoever is slumping at the moment in the 2-hole.

by hit and run on Aug 7, 2008 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

agreed

"Ding-dong the wicked witch is dead!" - Wayne Hagin after the cardinals snapped a losing streak

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Aug 7, 2008 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He is streaky

If he is going bad I dont think it matters where he is in the lineup but when he is good he is really good!

"Even when the rain falls, Even when the flood starts rising, Even when the storm comes, I am washed by the water!" -NeedToBreathe

by Calhoun on Aug 7, 2008 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Never been to wrigley...

any chance of me getting into the game if I go to chicago tomorrow? Scalpers? anything reasonable online?

"Ding-dong the wicked witch is dead!" - Wayne Hagin after the cardinals snapped a losing streak

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Aug 7, 2008 2:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

nope

no reasonable prices online. your best bet is to try and keep saying “I need tickets” over and over again outside. usually someone has an extra ticket or you’ll find a scalper guy if you keep trying

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 7, 2008 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks...

by the name I’m going to assume you are a pretty reliable source

"Ding-dong the wicked witch is dead!" - Wayne Hagin after the cardinals snapped a losing streak

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Aug 7, 2008 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you got it

if you’re around during the weekend and your bored, shoot me an email

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 7, 2008 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice play by Lohse

"Even when the rain falls, Even when the flood starts rising, Even when the storm comes, I am washed by the water!" -NeedToBreathe

by Calhoun on Aug 7, 2008 2:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

13-pitch inning

Nice work Kyle

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 7, 2008 2:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i would LOVE to see this part of the lineup....

take some pitches and make Kershaw work here. He’s already (jesus Lopez!!!!) thrown like 29 pitches.

by goodymobb on Aug 7, 2008 2:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

In the time it took me to play a game of minesweeper

The bottom of the 2nd is already over

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 7, 2008 2:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You ever beat expert of minesweeper?

"Even when the rain falls, Even when the flood starts rising, Even when the storm comes, I am washed by the water!" -NeedToBreathe

by Calhoun on Aug 7, 2008 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's not that bad

though there are some unsolvable boards

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Aug 7, 2008 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I got down to the last two squares

one was a mine.. one wasnt had to guess and I guessed wrong…...

"Even when the rain falls, Even when the flood starts rising, Even when the storm comes, I am washed by the water!" -NeedToBreathe

by Calhoun on Aug 7, 2008 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm pretty good

Alot of times I get to a point where I’ll just have to guess though

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 7, 2008 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i wonder how long...

the lopez experiment will run…

this guy is the poor man’s poor man’s skip schumaker, who happens to play the infield.

it’s a travesty he’s in over skip.

by RedbirdAvenger on Aug 7, 2008 2:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

agreed

this wasn’t how we agreed to use Lopez when he was signed.

On with the (good) youth movement!

by aet15 on Aug 7, 2008 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hardly

not that lopez is great, but skip is quite horrible against leftys

by FunkeeC on Aug 7, 2008 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 7, 2008 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i give you that argument.

anybody know lopez’s stats against LHP?

by RedbirdAvenger on Aug 7, 2008 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

not sure but i think it was significantly better than vs. RHP

"Ding-dong the wicked witch is dead!" - Wayne Hagin after the cardinals snapped a losing streak

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Aug 7, 2008 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

definitely

BUT, I’d MUCH rather have Skip’s defense out there if they’re both going to go 0 for 4.

On with the (good) youth movement!

by aet15 on Aug 7, 2008 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What are you talking about....

Skip sucks vs. LHP

.156 AVG/ .236 OBP/ .177 SLG

by ICbirdfan on Aug 7, 2008 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have no problem..

with skip sitting vs. any lefty, but Lopez should NEVER play the outfield. We shouldn’t have 3 weak hitting MIF in the lineup at once

"Ding-dong the wicked witch is dead!" - Wayne Hagin after the cardinals snapped a losing streak

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Aug 7, 2008 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well who plays LF then?

I don’t want skip playing…. Who is the RH power bat? Should we play Looper in LF

by ICbirdfan on Aug 7, 2008 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I guess it was supposed to be Nick Stavinoah...

that didn’t work out so well. The yearlong question of “Why do we have 4 MIF’s?” remains.

"Ding-dong the wicked witch is dead!" - Wayne Hagin after the cardinals snapped a losing streak

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Aug 7, 2008 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So do you unintentionally-intentionally walk Manny everytime?

With a lefty on the mound, plus the string of 4-6 unproductive hitters we have out there today, I don’t think you can let Manny beat you.

by goodymobb on Aug 7, 2008 2:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

JESUS EFF....

Really? I typed that between innings. Sorry folks….didn’t mean to be so prophetic.

by goodymobb on Aug 7, 2008 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Conspiracy theory alert!

Maybe Tony is pissed off we didnt do anything during the deadline so he is trying to make Moe angry?

"Even when the rain falls, Even when the flood starts rising, Even when the storm comes, I am washed by the water!" -NeedToBreathe

by Calhoun on Aug 7, 2008 2:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think this is just his typical

“day game after a night game after the series is already won’-type trick

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Aug 7, 2008 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If it really keeps the players sharp

I don’t mind it, though I wish it could be on a game that Piñeiro starts

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Aug 7, 2008 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sure, maybe

Maybe it keeps the players sharp (hard to argue with his success over the years), but – and I emphasize today aside – isn’t a sweep better than 2 out of 3? I dunno…I’d just get a bit pissed if I was the starter going out there with the throwaway lineup as my run support.

by goodymobb on Aug 7, 2008 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So later we'll see Miles in relief?

With a dash of Kennedy coming in to play 2B? It would be pretty amazing to have 4 crappy MMI on the field at once…...

by goodymobb on Aug 7, 2008 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I still

would’ve liked to see us go after Jeff Kent. I know he’s not having the best year, but the guy can rake.

On with the (good) youth movement!

by aet15 on Aug 7, 2008 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lineup trivia question

What’s the largest number of switch hitters in a starting lineup?

I realize Izturis isn’t in it, but if he was, and Lopez was in LF, that would give us 3 today with Miles at 2B.

Has there ever been more than that?

by A1R3Z on Aug 7, 2008 2:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

doh... looked at the wrong post...

and Iz2 is playing today, so that gives us 3 switch hitters… Tony must be in heaven.

by A1R3Z on Aug 7, 2008 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

1985 Cards

I do not know your answer but…

The ‘85 Cards had 5 regular switch hitters – Herr, Ozzie, Pendleton, Willie and Vince.

by andujar on Aug 7, 2008 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And...

according to baseball-reference. Joaquin Andujar was a switch hitter… not that I bothered to know this.

That would make 6 since the regulars all started 150-ish games that year. They had to all start at the same time.

by andujar on Aug 7, 2008 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would've bet any amount of money that..

that was going to happen today

"Ding-dong the wicked witch is dead!" - Wayne Hagin after the cardinals snapped a losing streak

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Aug 7, 2008 2:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

well, why didn't you?

On with the (good) youth movement!

by aet15 on Aug 7, 2008 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We've got some serious internet/cyber dollar action on today's game above

Redbird and I have the “under” on the Cards scoring 5 runs. I’m sure someone would give you some fake action.

by goodymobb on Aug 7, 2008 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whats the odds we get no hit today?

"Even when the rain falls, Even when the flood starts rising, Even when the storm comes, I am washed by the water!" -NeedToBreathe

by Calhoun on Aug 7, 2008 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Was someone on base?

When Manny hit his homer?

"Even when the rain falls, Even when the flood starts rising, Even when the storm comes, I am washed by the water!" -NeedToBreathe

by Calhoun on Aug 7, 2008 2:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yes

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Aug 7, 2008 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes

"Ding-dong the wicked witch is dead!" - Wayne Hagin after the cardinals snapped a losing streak

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Aug 7, 2008 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes

kent was on

by 916baller on Aug 7, 2008 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

what is it

3-0 now?

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 7, 2008 2:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

it was an absolute cock shot fastball to Manny there

When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom

by ANDYAK47 on Aug 7, 2008 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

still confused

as to why we’re pitching to him

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 7, 2008 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

mather

took a weird route to that last flyout

by 916baller on Aug 7, 2008 3:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He doesnt get very good jumps in center

"Even when the rain falls, Even when the flood starts rising, Even when the storm comes, I am washed by the water!" -NeedToBreathe

by Calhoun on Aug 7, 2008 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he's not really a CF

is he?

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 7, 2008 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

CF

was manned pretty well at Memphis most of this season.

by liam on Aug 7, 2008 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dont think so

"Even when the rain falls, Even when the flood starts rising, Even when the storm comes, I am washed by the water!" -NeedToBreathe

by Calhoun on Aug 7, 2008 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

wan't he a 3B coming up?

I think he’s only been playing OF for a few seasons

"Ding-dong the wicked witch is dead!" - Wayne Hagin after the cardinals snapped a losing streak

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Aug 7, 2008 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

right

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 7, 2008 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dont know

Ask HC

"Even when the rain falls, Even when the flood starts rising, Even when the storm comes, I am washed by the water!" -NeedToBreathe

by Calhoun on Aug 7, 2008 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

haven't you heard?

positions don’t matter anymore. Just stick them out there somewhere.

On with the (good) youth movement!

by aet15 on Aug 7, 2008 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Like my softball team!

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Aug 7, 2008 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That should be Tonys motto

Albert a 2b, Miles a RP, Lopez a OF, Iz2 a major leaguer lol

"Even when the rain falls, Even when the flood starts rising, Even when the storm comes, I am washed by the water!" -NeedToBreathe

by Calhoun on Aug 7, 2008 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

miles a SS, 3B and LF..

"Ding-dong the wicked witch is dead!" - Wayne Hagin after the cardinals snapped a losing streak

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Aug 7, 2008 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Miles in LF?

I would pay to see that lol

"Even when the rain falls, Even when the flood starts rising, Even when the storm comes, I am washed by the water!" -NeedToBreathe

by Calhoun on Aug 7, 2008 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He played there

for two innings this year already.

by liam on Aug 7, 2008 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I must have missed that

dangit….....

"Even when the rain falls, Even when the flood starts rising, Even when the storm comes, I am washed by the water!" -NeedToBreathe

by Calhoun on Aug 7, 2008 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he chipped in 2/3 of an inning last year...lol

"Ding-dong the wicked witch is dead!" - Wayne Hagin after the cardinals snapped a losing streak

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Aug 7, 2008 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know Lohse is pitching

But trying to get a sweep is like trying to get a save for this team. I would have put the odds of winning @ around 15%

by TheBirds on Aug 7, 2008 3:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

heh

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 7, 2008 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

There is no excuse whatsoever to give Manny anything to hit with men on base

especially with the rest of this Dodger lineup. DO NOT LET 1 PLAYER BEAT YOU! More than likely the rest of that lineup wont hurt you too much.

by buzzburton33 on Aug 7, 2008 3:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

that's the part I don't get

why pitch to mr. m.r. when you have a light hitting lineup to mess around with?

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 7, 2008 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The strategy seemed to work for LAD

except they extended it: Walk Pujols AND Ludwick, then take your chances with a slumping Glaus and the subsequent black hole.

by goodymobb on Aug 7, 2008 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1.

Especially today. As I (prophetically) said above, we have as many as 6 poor offensive players strung together in a row today. Make someone else beat you.

by goodymobb on Aug 7, 2008 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

who?

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 7, 2008 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

iz2...was doubled off though

"Ding-dong the wicked witch is dead!" - Wayne Hagin after the cardinals snapped a losing streak

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Aug 7, 2008 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ugh

hit and run just has so many negative outcomes

by duncans_army on Aug 7, 2008 3:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Espeically when you're trying to hit and run with a power hitting dude at the plate

I can understand it with the low K, high avg types like Miles, but with Mather…

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Aug 7, 2008 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

infield pop into a double play

that is one I do not remember seeing

When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom

by ANDYAK47 on Aug 7, 2008 3:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Every game makes me think tony should be fired a little more

don’t try to defend him, I can’t be swayed. Just wait for the next time he makes a dumb call.

by TheBirds on Aug 7, 2008 3:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Whatever dude

He should be the manager of the year hand down…........

"Even when the rain falls, Even when the flood starts rising, Even when the storm comes, I am washed by the water!" -NeedToBreathe

by Calhoun on Aug 7, 2008 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hands

"Even when the rain falls, Even when the flood starts rising, Even when the storm comes, I am washed by the water!" -NeedToBreathe

by Calhoun on Aug 7, 2008 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

100% agreed...

but i think if he doesn’t win it, its because of the way he handled the closer’s role. Especially if Perez dominates from here on out and the cards fall short

"Ding-dong the wicked witch is dead!" - Wayne Hagin after the cardinals snapped a losing streak

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Aug 7, 2008 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

or because the media loves the Cubs

On with the (good) youth movement!

by aet15 on Aug 7, 2008 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

actually

do they even vote on that? I don’t know what I’m talking about.

On with the (good) youth movement!

by aet15 on Aug 7, 2008 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

it is the writers

"Ding-dong the wicked witch is dead!" - Wayne Hagin after the cardinals snapped a losing streak

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Aug 7, 2008 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

even then...

you could argue that the cards would be infront of the cubs with an inferior roster, if the closer role wasn’t pissed away

"Ding-dong the wicked witch is dead!" - Wayne Hagin after the cardinals snapped a losing streak

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Aug 7, 2008 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

aren't you the one

who just made the “we R boned” comment?

On with the (good) youth movement!

by aet15 on Aug 7, 2008 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

so?

we are aren’t we?

by TheBirds on Aug 7, 2008 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

no, not at all.

we’re down by 4 with five innings to go, and even if we lose, we win the series.

On with the (good) youth movement!

by aet15 on Aug 7, 2008 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

pretty soon....

someone will ask you if you’ve read “Three Nights in August,” then you’ll either say “yes” or “no.” Just to be clear, if you say haven’t read the book, just lie about it and say you did. Otherwise, you’ll get something like “You cannot even begin to understand how much Tony knows/thinks/eats/sleeps the game of baseball. Go read Three Nights in August.”

Tony’s done a solid job with this year’s team (picked to fight PIT for the worst record in the division), so I kid a little with this post, but I have seen that “logic” quite a few times.

by goodymobb on Aug 7, 2008 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ludwick, Lohse, Welly, etc have saved the season

The players are the ones that are important, tony needs to just let them play.

by TheBirds on Aug 7, 2008 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ludwick's playing every day and the other two are in the rotation

and will be in the proposed 4 man if it ever happens, which would be the first time in ten years that a manager has tried a four man.

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Aug 7, 2008 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

not saying he's keeping them from playing

but his managing style interferes with the games too much.

by TheBirds on Aug 7, 2008 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

some would argue

that they’ve won IN SPITE of Tony, not BECAUSE of Tony. I don’t know if I’d go that far, but the repeated bullpen decisions, 37* slap-hitting middle infielders on the roster, plus his earlier insistence on sitting Ludwick vs. righties so Duncan could get ABs (when Lud was on fire, mind you) was puzzling to say the least.

*this is probably an exaggeration of the actual number of middle infielders on the roster.

by goodymobb on Aug 7, 2008 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

for those of you that don't have the FSN feed

Dan ‘n Al are actually having an argument about whether or not Tom Pagnozzi would make a good spokesperson for Fruit of the Loom

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Aug 7, 2008 3:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

heh

those two are gettin a little fruity today!

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 7, 2008 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shannon is fruity everyday lol

"Even when the rain falls, Even when the flood starts rising, Even when the storm comes, I am washed by the water!" -NeedToBreathe

by Calhoun on Aug 7, 2008 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

dammit dammit dammit!

That must be some amazing television.

On with the (good) youth movement!

by aet15 on Aug 7, 2008 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

there's the dvr sleep screen again!

Is the mlb.tv feed Al’s personal tv hooked up to a slingbox?

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Aug 7, 2008 3:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Tom Pagnozzi

Tom Pagnozzi’s brother is my schools headmaster lol

by jcarro197 on Aug 7, 2008 3:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Matt Pagnozzi

still plays for Springfield.

by saladdays on Aug 7, 2008 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe Lohse is losing it a bit

he had that horrible start two times ago in NY as well….

all the more reason NOT to put Waino in the pen

by cardsfaninmass on Aug 7, 2008 3:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think I have said this before but Klayton Kershaw is a great name

When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom

by ANDYAK47 on Aug 7, 2008 3:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

well it's official

Game over. When Juan Pierre does anything good, let alone triples to “deep right” against you, it is not your day.

Sorry to be such a downer. I was pretty jaded since teh lineups came out and I saw 3 MMI starting.

by goodymobb on Aug 7, 2008 3:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

this is our typical lineup actually

When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom

by ANDYAK47 on Aug 7, 2008 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

against lefty's that is

When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom

by ANDYAK47 on Aug 7, 2008 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, Pierre doesn't have a lot going for him

but an ability to leg doubles into triples is one of the things he has working for him.

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Aug 7, 2008 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

agreed.

Now if he had hit a home run, then yes, I would be frightened.

On with the (good) youth movement!

by aet15 on Aug 7, 2008 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ok...

so it’s not the apocalypse…...good to know.

by goodymobb on Aug 7, 2008 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Billy Bob Thorton was bad luck for us that inning

he was in the booth with Shannon & Rooney.

by KYCards on