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Game 117 Open Thread: August 7 2008

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Los Angeles Dodgers @ St. Louis Cardinals


Kershaw Lohse
1-3, 4.02 13-3, 3.73

kershaw, you may recall, made his big-league debut against the cardinals in may and pitched pretty well, yielding two runs and 6 baserunners in 6 innings while striking out 7. he has had a very unlucky year. at double A this year he has made 11 starts with a 1.91 era, 0.95 whip, and 0 homers allowed in 61+ innings . . . . but just a 2-3 record. in 11 starts for the dodgers he hasn't been bad at all --- 4.02 era, and an opponent batting line of .278 / .366 / .390 --- but he only has 1 win, which came a couple of starts ago vs the nats. he's gone 6 shutout innings in each of his last 2 starts. kershaw combines high strikeout rates with high groundball rates, a la chris carpenter and brandon webb; if he's on, he will be a tough assignment for the st louis offense.

lohse in st. louis this year: 2.92 era and an opponent line of .225 / .270 / .357. lohse on the road: 5.16 era and an opponent line of .335 / .374 / .500.

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You always remember your first first

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 7, 2008 2:03 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lineup....

Izturis, SS
Mather, CF
Albert, 1B
Lud, RF
Glaus, 3B
Lopez, LF
Larue, C
Lohse, P
Miles, 2B

Wow, those last 4 are sexy, aren’t they?

by goodymobb on Aug 7, 2008 2:04 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you know you wish you could grow a 'stache like Larue

or have GRIT like Miles
or Pitch like Lohse
or.. uh… don’t have anything for Lopez

"I have CDO. It's like OCD, but the letters are in alphabetical order. Like they should be."

by BigMOman on Aug 7, 2008 2:08 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

FWIW....

I CAN grow (and have grown) a ‘stache like Larue….but only for very special occasions (e.g., a trip to the local dog track; a departmental chili party).

Miles’ GRIT is well out of my reach.

by goodymobb on Aug 7, 2008 2:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Aside from.....

Molina, how can we have put a better lineup out there?

I bet we score 5+ runs today.

by SoonerfanTU on Aug 7, 2008 2:12 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'll take that bet

500 internet dollars

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 7, 2008 2:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I hear

cyber dollars are taking a hit on the market today. You may want to invest in internet dollars instead.

On with the (good) youth movement!

by aet15 on Aug 7, 2008 2:52 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you lost that bet

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Aug 7, 2008 6:09 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I actually don't mind the lineup tonight

I can’t rememer the last time LaRue started, but I want Molina for the Cubs.

I hate Lopez, but Skip’s defense doesn’t make up for his lack of offense against Lefties.

Iz2 is actually a legit threat against lefties.

We won’t score much, but this is the best lineup we can field.

by TheBirds on Aug 7, 2008 2:05 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm an emotional guy

no middle ground with me, he certainly hasn’t given me a reason to like him.

by TheBirds on Aug 7, 2008 2:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

"We won’t score much, but this is the best lineup we can field."

Sadly, you’re right. Yuck.

The frustrating thing is that you KNOW you’re gonna get some “throwaway” lineups when TLR is your manager, so you roll with it. What is irritating is that this isn’t even necessarily a “throwaway” lineup…it’s the best thing we have.

by goodymobb on Aug 7, 2008 2:08 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'd say having Yadi and Ankiel

in there would be the best we could have.

My fellow Americans. As a young boy, I dreamed of being a baseball, but tonight I say, we must move forward, not backward, upward not forward, and always twirling, twirling, twirling towards freedom.

by Alxfritz on Aug 7, 2008 2:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I read that quickly, mistook the "L" for and "I"

and thought you said Ankiel should have died.

"I have CDO. It's like OCD, but the letters are in alphabetical order. Like they should be."

by BigMOman on Aug 7, 2008 2:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I thought so too

I was like why do you want Ankiel dead?

"Even when the rain falls, Even when the flood starts rising, Even when the storm comes, I am washed by the water!" -NeedToBreathe

by Calhoun on Aug 7, 2008 2:12 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

“the report of my being on the disabled list was an exaggeration.”

by mattybobo on Aug 7, 2008 2:41 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that looks like "died".

In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.

by Tackle Box on Aug 7, 2008 2:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

How about

Miles 2B
Mather LF
Pujols 1B
Ludwick RF
Glaus 3B
LaRue C
Lopez SS
Lohse P
Schumaker CF

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 7, 2008 2:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I was just typing up the same question.

In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.

by Tackle Box on Aug 7, 2008 2:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nicknames for Lopez?

How about we just watch the game and judge him (or at least nickname him) solely based on first impressions.

"I have CDO. It's like OCD, but the letters are in alphabetical order. Like they should be."

by BigMOman on Aug 7, 2008 2:10 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Fe-Lo

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 7, 2008 2:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

how origional

In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.

by Tackle Box on Aug 7, 2008 2:12 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Got anything better?

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 7, 2008 2:12 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

just because I don't have anything better for a guy I pretty much know nothing about

doesn’t make Fe-Lo a good nickname. For crying out loud, Fe-Lo (Filo) is a type of bread/pastry.

In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.

by Tackle Box on Aug 7, 2008 2:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Never heard of Filo

Must be a midwestern thing

Also, to TheBirds…If Isringhausen is Izzy, and Izturis is Iz2, I guess Lopez could then be Iz3?

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 7, 2008 2:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Greek

In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.

by Tackle Box on Aug 7, 2008 2:16 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Gotcha

No wonder it was Greek to me

link

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 7, 2008 2:17 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

no kidding

why the rush to make up a nickname anyway?

In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.

by Tackle Box on Aug 7, 2008 2:17 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

b/c that's what VEB does

thought it would be a fun conversation starter.

"I have CDO. It's like OCD, but the letters are in alphabetical order. Like they should be."

by BigMOman on Aug 7, 2008 2:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Compromise:

The Fliz

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 7, 2008 2:19 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Geez.....

Man crush on Barry much?

by SoonerfanTU on Aug 7, 2008 2:16 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We have one.....

But right now, he’s forced to play CF due to an injury.

by SoonerfanTU on Aug 7, 2008 2:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

so uh.,.. (can't believe I'm saying this)

WannaBB? (wanna be Barry Bonds)

"I have CDO. It's like OCD, but the letters are in alphabetical order. Like they should be."

by BigMOman on Aug 7, 2008 2:17 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Flo......

is what they call Flores

"Even when the rain falls, Even when the flood starts rising, Even when the storm comes, I am washed by the water!" -NeedToBreathe

by Calhoun on Aug 7, 2008 2:36 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

swiss2

as in, swiss army knife. reference to earlier thread… not terribly clever… why did i even post this?

by mattybobo on Aug 7, 2008 2:43 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I dont know

why did you? lol

"Even when the rain falls, Even when the flood starts rising, Even when the storm comes, I am washed by the water!" -NeedToBreathe

by Calhoun on Aug 7, 2008 2:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good thing for us the Dodgers are leading off with

Sir Walks-a-not

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 7, 2008 2:18 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I still hate Jeff Kent

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 7, 2008 2:19 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Throw away lineup

This lineup is no different than any other lineup the Cardinals throw out there everyday except for Molina. I’ll take a guy batting .308/.374 leading off anyday. Some of you guys…...................

by llabyellov on Aug 7, 2008 2:20 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

who's the leadoff hitter that's hitting 308/.374?

Maybe I’m looking at different stats for Cesar…...

by goodymobb on Aug 7, 2008 2:23 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

not according to the splits from ESPN.com's gamecast link....

Cesar sports a .286 avg hitting right-handed (which is a good bit better than his .199 from the other side), with a .350 OBP (and a .698 OPS fwiw).

Granted, if you’re gonna play Cesar, you want him hitting RH. I just hate our plethora of MMI.

by goodymobb on Aug 7, 2008 2:28 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He's hitting .308/.374 as a RHB vs. LHP

Remember he had a few shitty ABs against RHP as a righty

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 7, 2008 2:29 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Numbers

Don’t look at overall look at splits vs. LHP. He is decent against LHP.

by llabyellov on Aug 7, 2008 2:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bonds

Bonds is not an answer! He is a problem.

by llabyellov on Aug 7, 2008 2:21 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah

we don’t want clubhouse cancers around. Whoops, Felipe Lopez.

We don’t want people tied to HGH around. Whoops, Troy Glaus.

We don’t want people around who are mean to reporters. Whoops, Albert Pujols.

We don’t want people around who can’t play defense in LF. Whoops, Chris Duncan.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Aug 7, 2008 2:26 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dude...

The reporters really deserve it from Pujols….......he is a nice guy he just cant stand stupid people….......

"Even when the rain falls, Even when the flood starts rising, Even when the storm comes, I am washed by the water!" -NeedToBreathe

by Calhoun on Aug 7, 2008 2:38 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

nicely done

n/t

"Baseball is like church. Many attend, but few understand." -Wes Westrum

by nomar34 on Aug 7, 2008 3:35 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ankiel

Ankiel ops .755 against LH

Izturis ops .749 against LH

I know they don’t play the same position. Just saying.

by llabyellov on Aug 7, 2008 2:23 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lohse better not allow too many.

Our lineup is not capable of getting many runs.

by Egyptian on Aug 7, 2008 2:25 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

How did Lopez look on that play?

Would Skip or Mather have made it?

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 7, 2008 2:25 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

no

In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.

by Tackle Box on Aug 7, 2008 2:25 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What about the throw?

Or was there a throw home?

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 7, 2008 2:26 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

kent was running on contact

with two out so he was already halfway home by the time he got the ball

by 916baller on Aug 7, 2008 2:27 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If you want to dislike Lopez THAT much.....

Just dislike him already, quit looking for reasons.

by SoonerfanTU on Aug 7, 2008 2:28 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't think so. It was dying fast.

That said, Lopez was pretty far away from it when it fell. Skip would have been closer. He was probably comparable to Mather on that one.

by Egyptian on Aug 7, 2008 2:26 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Come on......

He plays where the coaches tell him to play…........they set the defense…...

"Even when the rain falls, Even when the flood starts rising, Even when the storm comes, I am washed by the water!" -NeedToBreathe

by Calhoun on Aug 7, 2008 2:39 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

there was no play to be had at the plate

Kent was running on contact (2 outs).

In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.

by Tackle Box on Aug 7, 2008 2:28 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

lineup

I think someone said the same thing last night and we scored how many?

by llabyellov on Aug 7, 2008 2:26 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

true

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 7, 2008 2:27 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I know

I thought that was supposed to be the focal point of this whole new stadium project. Guess not

by madeintaiwan on Aug 7, 2008 2:28 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

sounds like how we cleaned our house

when we had guests for Christmas each year

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 7, 2008 2:28 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What are you talking about?

The stickball tournament field is going to be complete!

by Egyptian on Aug 7, 2008 2:32 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

26-pitch innings

Not a good idea for our last game before a series in Chicago, Kyle

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 7, 2008 2:27 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

dude

the guy isn’t lights out… although he should be doing better at home I guess. how many runs were given up?

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 7, 2008 2:28 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Just 1

But if 100 pitches is a good goal, he’ll be at 104 through 4 at this rate

We need a nice deep start

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 7, 2008 2:29 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

eh

he’s probably just having a slow start… which he usually does I think

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 7, 2008 2:30 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

oh no

1 run, we’re gonna lose!

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 7, 2008 2:29 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Skip

Skip would have been playing Left Center and everyone would have asked where in the world was SKIP on that play.

by llabyellov on Aug 7, 2008 2:27 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dude

We won last night remember.

by llabyellov on Aug 7, 2008 2:29 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lefties

Lesson to be learned.

Teach your kid to throw left!

by llabyellov on Aug 7, 2008 2:30 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

only helps if they can throw 90

if not, you severely limit their options in the field.

In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.

by Tackle Box on Aug 7, 2008 2:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Killer L's

In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.

by Tackle Box on Aug 7, 2008 2:32 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

don't discount the 'stache!

"I have CDO. It's like OCD, but the letters are in alphabetical order. Like they should be."

by BigMOman on Aug 7, 2008 2:32 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

haha

perhaps a little sarcasm.

"I have CDO. It's like OCD, but the letters are in alphabetical order. Like they should be."

by BigMOman on Aug 7, 2008 2:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I would have been esctatic had it been against anyone other than the cubs.

In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.

by Tackle Box on Aug 7, 2008 2:36 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My favorite was

Derek “Mr. Operation Shutdown” Bell.

In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.

by Tackle Box on Aug 7, 2008 2:33 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Make him pay Luddy

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 7, 2008 2:32 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

honestly...

I’d still walk Pujols, even with Luddy behind him.

"I have CDO. It's like OCD, but the letters are in alphabetical order. Like they should be."

by BigMOman on Aug 7, 2008 2:33 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

they just said

ankiel might be ready tomorrow

by 916baller on Aug 7, 2008 2:33 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I would like to see our current CF show up our former CF this weekend.

"I have CDO. It's like OCD, but the letters are in alphabetical order. Like they should be."

by BigMOman on Aug 7, 2008 2:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he's been doin it all season

"Ding-dong the wicked witch is dead!" - Wayne Hagin after the cardinals snapped a losing streak

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Aug 7, 2008 2:37 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

not quite

with the cubs edmonds has a .969 OPS. he’s found the fountain of youth over there

by Glowsticks on Aug 7, 2008 2:40 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

or the fountain of wind and small fields?

"I have CDO. It's like OCD, but the letters are in alphabetical order. Like they should be."

by BigMOman on Aug 7, 2008 2:41 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

way to make the guy at least work a little, AP

He had thrown what, like 4 pitches between Cesar and Mather?

by goodymobb on Aug 7, 2008 2:34 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Glaus needs to find his stroke

Like, right now

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 7, 2008 2:36 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Don't hold your breath

Ankiel’s been playing tomorrow for a week now.

by llabyellov on Aug 7, 2008 2:36 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

just a suggestion

if you use the reply button – it’s easier to understand your comments in relation to the original posts.

by TNTinCO on Aug 7, 2008 2:38 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He's just walking Pu, Lud, and Glaus to get to Lopez

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 7, 2008 2:39 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nevermind

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 7, 2008 2:39 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Throw that helmet!!!

There ya go.

In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.

by Tackle Box on Aug 7, 2008 2:40 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yes

In the world I see--you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.

by Tackle Box on Aug 7, 2008 2:41 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If I were Torre

I would walk Pujols and Ludwick every time through the lineup.

"I have CDO. It's like OCD, but the letters are in alphabetical order. Like they should be."

by BigMOman on Aug 7, 2008 2:41 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

what about putting Glaus ahead of Albert, then Lud, then Ank?

just trying to get Glaus going….with Albert and Lud behind him, he would see the easiest pitches possible

by hockeyno93 on Aug 7, 2008 2:42 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Its a common thought to

put a guy in front of Pujols to get him better pitches and increase his production. I’m not necessarily against it in this case, but we shouldn’t get in the habit of having whoever is slumping at the moment in the 2-hole.

by hit and run on Aug 7, 2008 2:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

agreed

"Ding-dong the wicked witch is dead!" - Wayne Hagin after the cardinals snapped a losing streak

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Aug 7, 2008 2:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He is streaky

If he is going bad I dont think it matters where he is in the lineup but when he is good he is really good!

"Even when the rain falls, Even when the flood starts rising, Even when the storm comes, I am washed by the water!" -NeedToBreathe

by Calhoun on Aug 7, 2008 2:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Never been to wrigley...

any chance of me getting into the game if I go to chicago tomorrow? Scalpers? anything reasonable online?

"Ding-dong the wicked witch is dead!" - Wayne Hagin after the cardinals snapped a losing streak

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Aug 7, 2008 2:45 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

nope

no reasonable prices online. your best bet is to try and keep saying “I need tickets” over and over again outside. usually someone has an extra ticket or you’ll find a scalper guy if you keep trying

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 7, 2008 2:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thanks...

by the name I’m going to assume you are a pretty reliable source

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by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Aug 7, 2008 2:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you got it

if you’re around during the weekend and your bored, shoot me an email

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 7, 2008 2:49 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nice play by Lohse

"Even when the rain falls, Even when the flood starts rising, Even when the storm comes, I am washed by the water!" -NeedToBreathe

by Calhoun on Aug 7, 2008 2:46 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

13-pitch inning

Nice work Kyle

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 7, 2008 2:48 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i would LOVE to see this part of the lineup....

take some pitches and make Kershaw work here. He’s already (jesus Lopez!!!!) thrown like 29 pitches.

by goodymobb on Aug 7, 2008 2:50 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

In the time it took me to play a game of minesweeper

The bottom of the 2nd is already over

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 7, 2008 2:52 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You ever beat expert of minesweeper?

"Even when the rain falls, Even when the flood starts rising, Even when the storm comes, I am washed by the water!" -NeedToBreathe

by Calhoun on Aug 7, 2008 2:53 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's not that bad

though there are some unsolvable boards

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Aug 7, 2008 2:54 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I got down to the last two squares

one was a mine.. one wasnt had to guess and I guessed wrong…...

"Even when the rain falls, Even when the flood starts rising, Even when the storm comes, I am washed by the water!" -NeedToBreathe

by Calhoun on Aug 7, 2008 2:56 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm pretty good

Alot of times I get to a point where I’ll just have to guess though

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 7, 2008 3:20 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i wonder how long...

the lopez experiment will run…

this guy is the poor man’s poor man’s skip schumaker, who happens to play the infield.

it’s a travesty he’s in over skip.

by RedbirdAvenger on Aug 7, 2008 2:53 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

agreed

this wasn’t how we agreed to use Lopez when he was signed.

On with the (good) youth movement!

by aet15 on Aug 7, 2008 2:54 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hardly

not that lopez is great, but skip is quite horrible against leftys

by FunkeeC on Aug 7, 2008 2:54 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 7, 2008 2:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i give you that argument.

anybody know lopez’s stats against LHP?

by RedbirdAvenger on Aug 7, 2008 2:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

not sure but i think it was significantly better than vs. RHP

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by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Aug 7, 2008 2:56 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

definitely

BUT, I’d MUCH rather have Skip’s defense out there if they’re both going to go 0 for 4.

On with the (good) youth movement!

by aet15 on Aug 7, 2008 2:58 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What are you talking about....

Skip sucks vs. LHP

.156 AVG/ .236 OBP/ .177 SLG

by ICbirdfan on Aug 7, 2008 2:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I have no problem..

with skip sitting vs. any lefty, but Lopez should NEVER play the outfield. We shouldn’t have 3 weak hitting MIF in the lineup at once

"Ding-dong the wicked witch is dead!" - Wayne Hagin after the cardinals snapped a losing streak

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Aug 7, 2008 2:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well who plays LF then?

I don’t want skip playing…. Who is the RH power bat? Should we play Looper in LF

by ICbirdfan on Aug 7, 2008 2:56 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I guess it was supposed to be Nick Stavinoah...

that didn’t work out so well. The yearlong question of “Why do we have 4 MIF’s?” remains.

"Ding-dong the wicked witch is dead!" - Wayne Hagin after the cardinals snapped a losing streak

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Aug 7, 2008 3:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So do you unintentionally-intentionally walk Manny everytime?

With a lefty on the mound, plus the string of 4-6 unproductive hitters we have out there today, I don’t think you can let Manny beat you.

by goodymobb on Aug 7, 2008 2:55 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

JESUS EFF....

Really? I typed that between innings. Sorry folks….didn’t mean to be so prophetic.

by goodymobb on Aug 7, 2008 2:58 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Conspiracy theory alert!

Maybe Tony is pissed off we didnt do anything during the deadline so he is trying to make Moe angry?

"Even when the rain falls, Even when the flood starts rising, Even when the storm comes, I am washed by the water!" -NeedToBreathe

by Calhoun on Aug 7, 2008 2:55 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think this is just his typical

“day game after a night game after the series is already won’-type trick

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Aug 7, 2008 2:56 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If it really keeps the players sharp

I don’t mind it, though I wish it could be on a game that Piñeiro starts

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Aug 7, 2008 2:59 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sure, maybe

Maybe it keeps the players sharp (hard to argue with his success over the years), but – and I emphasize today aside – isn’t a sweep better than 2 out of 3? I dunno…I’d just get a bit pissed if I was the starter going out there with the throwaway lineup as my run support.

by goodymobb on Aug 7, 2008 3:00 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So later we'll see Miles in relief?

With a dash of Kennedy coming in to play 2B? It would be pretty amazing to have 4 crappy MMI on the field at once…...

by goodymobb on Aug 7, 2008 2:57 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I still

would’ve liked to see us go after Jeff Kent. I know he’s not having the best year, but the guy can rake.

On with the (good) youth movement!

by aet15 on Aug 7, 2008 2:59 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

lineup trivia question

What’s the largest number of switch hitters in a starting lineup?

I realize Izturis isn’t in it, but if he was, and Lopez was in LF, that would give us 3 today with Miles at 2B.

Has there ever been more than that?

by A1R3Z on Aug 7, 2008 2:57 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

doh... looked at the wrong post...

and Iz2 is playing today, so that gives us 3 switch hitters… Tony must be in heaven.

by A1R3Z on Aug 7, 2008 3:22 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

1985 Cards

I do not know your answer but…

The ‘85 Cards had 5 regular switch hitters – Herr, Ozzie, Pendleton, Willie and Vince.

by andujar on Aug 7, 2008 3:38 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And...

according to baseball-reference. Joaquin Andujar was a switch hitter… not that I bothered to know this.

That would make 6 since the regulars all started 150-ish games that year. They had to all start at the same time.

by andujar on Aug 7, 2008 3:41 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I would've bet any amount of money that..

that was going to happen today

"Ding-dong the wicked witch is dead!" - Wayne Hagin after the cardinals snapped a losing streak

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Aug 7, 2008 2:57 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

well, why didn't you?

On with the (good) youth movement!

by aet15 on Aug 7, 2008 3:00 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We've got some serious internet/cyber dollar action on today's game above

Redbird and I have the “under” on the Cards scoring 5 runs. I’m sure someone would give you some fake action.

by goodymobb on Aug 7, 2008 3:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Whats the odds we get no hit today?

"Even when the rain falls, Even when the flood starts rising, Even when the storm comes, I am washed by the water!" -NeedToBreathe

by Calhoun on Aug 7, 2008 3:03 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Was someone on base?

When Manny hit his homer?

"Even when the rain falls, Even when the flood starts rising, Even when the storm comes, I am washed by the water!" -NeedToBreathe

by Calhoun on Aug 7, 2008 2:58 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yes

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Aug 7, 2008 2:59 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yes

"Ding-dong the wicked witch is dead!" - Wayne Hagin after the cardinals snapped a losing streak

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Aug 7, 2008 2:59 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it was an absolute cock shot fastball to Manny there

When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom

by ANDYAK47 on Aug 7, 2008 3:01 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

still confused

as to why we’re pitching to him

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 7, 2008 3:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

mather

took a weird route to that last flyout

by 916baller on Aug 7, 2008 3:01 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He doesnt get very good jumps in center

"Even when the rain falls, Even when the flood starts rising, Even when the storm comes, I am washed by the water!" -NeedToBreathe

by Calhoun on Aug 7, 2008 3:01 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

CF

was manned pretty well at Memphis most of this season.

by liam on Aug 7, 2008 3:03 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dont think so

"Even when the rain falls, Even when the flood starts rising, Even when the storm comes, I am washed by the water!" -NeedToBreathe

by Calhoun on Aug 7, 2008 3:04 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wan't he a 3B coming up?

I think he’s only been playing OF for a few seasons

"Ding-dong the wicked witch is dead!" - Wayne Hagin after the cardinals snapped a losing streak

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Aug 7, 2008 3:05 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dont know

Ask HC

"Even when the rain falls, Even when the flood starts rising, Even when the storm comes, I am washed by the water!" -NeedToBreathe

by Calhoun on Aug 7, 2008 3:06 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

haven't you heard?

positions don’t matter anymore. Just stick them out there somewhere.

On with the (good) youth movement!

by aet15 on Aug 7, 2008 3:06 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Like my softball team!

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Aug 7, 2008 3:07 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That should be Tonys motto

Albert a 2b, Miles a RP, Lopez a OF, Iz2 a major leaguer lol

"Even when the rain falls, Even when the flood starts rising, Even when the storm comes, I am washed by the water!" -NeedToBreathe

by Calhoun on Aug 7, 2008 3:08 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

miles a SS, 3B and LF..

"Ding-dong the wicked witch is dead!" - Wayne Hagin after the cardinals snapped a losing streak

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Aug 7, 2008 3:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Miles in LF?

I would pay to see that lol

"Even when the rain falls, Even when the flood starts rising, Even when the storm comes, I am washed by the water!" -NeedToBreathe

by Calhoun on Aug 7, 2008 3:12 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He played there

for two innings this year already.

by liam on Aug 7, 2008 3:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I must have missed that

dangit….....

"Even when the rain falls, Even when the flood starts rising, Even when the storm comes, I am washed by the water!" -NeedToBreathe

by Calhoun on Aug 7, 2008 3:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he chipped in 2/3 of an inning last year...lol

"Ding-dong the wicked witch is dead!" - Wayne Hagin after the cardinals snapped a losing streak

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Aug 7, 2008 3:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I know Lohse is pitching

But trying to get a sweep is like trying to get a save for this team. I would have put the odds of winning @ around 15%

by TheBirds on Aug 7, 2008 3:02 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

heh

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 7, 2008 3:03 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

There is no excuse whatsoever to give Manny anything to hit with men on base

especially with the rest of this Dodger lineup. DO NOT LET 1 PLAYER BEAT YOU! More than likely the rest of that lineup wont hurt you too much.

by buzzburton33 on Aug 7, 2008 3:04 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that's the part I don't get

why pitch to mr. m.r. when you have a light hitting lineup to mess around with?

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 7, 2008 3:05 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The strategy seemed to work for LAD

except they extended it: Walk Pujols AND Ludwick, then take your chances with a slumping Glaus and the subsequent black hole.

by goodymobb on Aug 7, 2008 3:08 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1.

Especially today. As I (prophetically) said above, we have as many as 6 poor offensive players strung together in a row today. Make someone else beat you.

by goodymobb on Aug 7, 2008 3:07 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ugh

hit and run just has so many negative outcomes

by duncans_army on Aug 7, 2008 3:07 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Espeically when you're trying to hit and run with a power hitting dude at the plate

I can understand it with the low K, high avg types like Miles, but with Mather…

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Aug 7, 2008 3:08 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

infield pop into a double play

that is one I do not remember seeing

When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom

by ANDYAK47 on Aug 7, 2008 3:08 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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