Game 115 Overflow II - When Bad Bullpens Go Really Bad
by azruavatar on Aug 6, 2008 12:01 AM EDT
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I am OK with the Green Light there.
Pujols is going to score on a basehit. There are more ways to score from third, but Glaus has to be a green light hitter for us.
glaus leads qualified batters on this team by a wide margin in swinging at the fewest balls outside the strike zone according to fangraphs. he also leads the team by a fair margin in pitches per plate appearance. he even has a slightly higher career BB% than pujols, the #2 in O-SWING and BB%. for what little it’s worth i personally trust his eye, and would trust him to swing at 3-0 counts whenever he wants.
FIP > ERA, OBP > AVG
yeah, but
raconteur leads qualified posters in angry, vitriolic comments directed at players for failing at what he believes to be simple athletic tasks. you can’t argue with that.
"so if you can’t understand what someone else is saying why don’t you just shut up about it instead of being a jerk-off?"
by baw on Aug 6, 2008 2:10 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
great
My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!
Sigh.
Sigh.
I don’t know what to do. I seriously don’t even know what to feel.
This is almost enough to make me want to stop watching the Cards play until my fellow VEB’ers tell me that the bullpen situation is at least partially rectified.
I just farted so loud
biscuits flew out of the oven!
Testicle-exploding shit storm, circa 7/12/08 - We will never forget!
Izzy should be thankful
Prince Fielder isn’t on his team.
Amaury translates into "Punisher of Spheroids" in the lost tongue of Atlantis. Marti means "Belgian Waffle." www.futureredbirds.net
Yes, I am..............
Trust me, it took all I have in me to not wish any physical harm to him or his family.
The way TLR has gotten on his knees to suck off Izzy over the years just adds to my hatred of the player.
I don’t need to hear about what type of a leader or a competitor a guy is. I just want results.
dude,,,,,,,,
it’s just a game
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
this stuff
is why i rarely come to game threads. and i think i speak for a lot of posters.
Amaury translates into "Punisher of Spheroids" in the lost tongue of Atlantis. Marti means "Belgian Waffle." www.futureredbirds.net
posts like his are not a correct representation for the majority of quality posts in the game thread
this i promise you
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
Yeah, they pretty much are
I’m with erik. I drop in about once or twice a week, then wonder why i came.
My bad. I misread what you wrote.
Posts like that aren’t representative. But the mood of this thread is.
This thread is decisively negative, that's for sure
Unfortunately, that’s become quite commonplace this season, mostly because of all the bullpen implosions
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
and regardless
a miniority of vulgar nonsense can just ruin things for others, even if it is just ten posts in a 400 post thread.
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
i just hate to hear people say they wont come in during games
and if i hate it, how does Lboros feel? it’s his site they say they wont come to.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
But you also notice he's rarely around for them himself
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
sorry - stupid fingers get in the way of typing
lboros has mentioned that he’s often poking around here – but doesn’t feel it would generally be appropriate for him to post during the game threads.
I completely agree with you
it’s getting really out of hand, and I don’t know what the solution is at this point
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
I can't speak for everyone
but my intention in saying something like this isn’t to be whiny. Its more like a cry for help. No one would be here if we didn’t love this team. But can’t we discuss it like adults? I’m not offended by the occasional F-bomb. But the negativity, tone and immaturity isn’t the exception anymore. It’s the norm.
I come here because I live 2,000 miles away from St. Louis, and I’m looking to connect w/ some fellow fans in a way that’s hard to do from so far away. Not to mention that the analysis is 2nd to none. We still love the site. Heck, erik & Val used to write regularly. Just asking that everyone keep a little perspective.
completely agree with you
I feel like i’m watching the game with friends when I come here. Although my friends have about 1000 times less baseball knowledge than you guys – they also tend to be a little more optimistic.
i couldn't agree more
won’t claim that i’m not the source of the occasional meaningless comment, but at least they’re harmless as well.
Rabid Redbird
that's pretty fragile
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
yeah
there is some crazy stuff here…
but I would like to go out on a limb and say that a lot of the “negative” stuff here is simply jokes or slight good hearted jabs or stuff just to make others here laugh
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Dont take me seriously :-D
by jealousblues on Aug 6, 2008 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions
you know he is only seven saves away from 300 right?
i guess you are right you have to be pretty bad to do that…
Izzy in the 9th
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
i remember that
episode
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Dont take me seriously :-D
by jealousblues on Aug 6, 2008 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Well,
I guess I’ll have to see how this thing ends manana, I gott go to bed.
Hopefully, heres to a W!
smack What the crap am I talkin about? I aint goin to bed til this is over!
Lets get a W!
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
There were no closers available for a reasonable price
blaming Mo is pointless.
boo cubs, hooray beer
nope
not when this team still has an inconsistent offense and a shitty rest of the bullpen besides the closer.
not worth giving up top prospects to put a bandaid over a bullet wound.
boo cubs, hooray beer
Except for Pujols
and Wainwright (who was really a Braves farmhand), when is the last time a Cardinal prospect delivered? Giving up prospects is like giving up lottery tickets.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down and that foot is me
Oh come on
How about Dan Haren? He was a Cardinals farmhand. This is the best our farm has looked in a long time. Give me a break.
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
k-mac....
ryan ludwick, rick ankiel, yadier molinda…
As seen on Bleed Cubbie Blue message board... "Wait until the Cardinals call up Rasmus..."
by urgeernieball on Aug 6, 2008 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions
I will give you Molina
Ludwick was a journeyman in various team’s systems, too early to say on k-mac, and it took 7 years to get a return on Ankiel. Haren is the only other prospect I can think of who we developed and unfortunately traded.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down and that foot is me
Im gonna get shelled for this
but the Cards prospect that I think of delivering just signed an extension with the DBacks. Other than that, I think of Matty Mo.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Aug 6, 2008 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions
molina, haren Kmac, Ank (the second time ;-))
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by jealousblues on Aug 6, 2008 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions
The thing is guys and this is obviously just my opinion
but I think that we have the guys we need within our own system to get the job done in the bullpen. The bigger problem is who Tony keeps on trying to rely on to close the games. It is not working so why are you trying the same thing over and over again. We keep on complaining about how bad our closers are but then just put the same guys out on the mound and when they fail again we say we got a big problem. It is insane how many times are we gonna have to blow games with izzy and franklin before we try something else. there are other guys in the bullpen and I am not suggesting that we use flores or villone here but how about Kyle McClellan and on occasion when the other team is especially strong with right handed batters why do we not throw Russ Springer out there. Their are other options in our bullpen that tony just does not explore and to me that is a sign of bad management and stubbornness
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
I don't know how you fix it.
The closer is the problem and we were not going to pay for a closer.
That said, a different lefty reliever perhaps doesn’t give up the AJ homerun.
There is NO WAY
TLR Can defend izzy tonight.
Cardwash - Cardinal, Washington fan (Washington???? Yeah, I know)
you are aware the STL media is scarred of Tony right?
they probably wont do any thing
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
Why didn't the offense score more runs??????
[/TLR postgame]
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
I'm gonna need a cig after this game
whether we win or lose
Testicle-exploding shit storm, circa 7/12/08 - We will never forget!
Me too
I don’t even smoke
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
i'm about to start back up
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
Perez or Motte
no reason not to give someone a chance (other than Waino)
My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!
Bueller? Bueller?
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
Mo
I don’t blame mo for not making a trade, only 1 lefty was traded at the deadline because every team that had a lefty relief pitcher was asking way to much for a 2 month fix
Cardwash - Cardinal, Washington fan (Washington???? Yeah, I know)
Trick question
Roosters don’t lay eggs!!
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
Izzy, Jiminez is in the minors where he cannot do damage
Hell, let garcia close, it cannot be worse
5 straight sliders to Kemp
I hate it when they throw the same pitch over and over
it seems like we always get burned that way
My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!
I think after tonight the whole team needs to storm into Mo's office
and demand that Izzy to be released. Not going anywhere with him on the team.
MO isnt the one that keeps putting him out there to get 300
this, along with many other losses this year, is on Tony
by buzzburton33 on Aug 6, 2008 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions
no, cannot have a rookie pitching if any other choices are available
unless its one of TLRs pet rookies
2003's bullpen was bad
But I would see better going and watching the AA Huntsville Stars’ bullpen right now
Maybe that’s a little much, but Jesus H. Christ, this is a new level of suck
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
anyone ever heard of addition by subtraction?
I wouldn’t mind someone explaining it to Izzy and Vilone
Franklin’s about to make the same list
My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!
is it possible to be in the playoff hunt
and have 5 or 6 guys who don’t belong in the majors on your roster?
tony looks pissed
when he went out to the mound
+1
this assumption he goes by that says all relievers are basically equal and we can go back and forth with no loss of effectiveness is just bs
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
This is just sickening....something needs to be done
the fans are paying way too much money on tickets for this garbage to continue.
our minor league bullpen is better
Chris Perez, Jason Motte and Fernando Salas would make this bullpen 25x better
boo cubs, hooray beer
if we had a competent bullpen
we’d be way out over the cubs in first right now, easily the best record in baseball.
bullpens are never a “strength” of a baseball team.
The only thing bullpens can be in baseball are not being weaknesses.
Cardwash - Cardinal, Washington fan (Washington???? Yeah, I know)
Not sure I agree with that
We’d be better, but I can’t say we’d have the best record in baseball. Too many other holes (other than bullpen)
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
I still say
Relief pitchers are starting pitchers that never made it…
Yadi swings and hits a high fly ball... Endy Chavez goes back, to the track, to the wall... ITS A GUNNER!! Yadi gives St. Louis the lead in the top of the ninth!
really
he might have actually had a chance to go to 1b on that, in addition to the horrible swing
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
yeah
it’s been a while since we had an ole fashioned walk home the winning run
by cardsfaninmass on Aug 6, 2008 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions
id walk manny
here so I agree. Loney is a good hitter but I just couldnt let manny beat us.
so why is he being booed so much?
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Dont take me seriously :-D
now with loney coming up
do we bring in fuentes?
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
This game has literally made me ill
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
i heard he was stress eating after watching the cards' bullpen performance
Life's a river, kid, you gotta go where it takes you.
by KerouacCardinal on Aug 6, 2008 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions
i stopped watching FarveCenter weeks ago
i just can’t take it anymore
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
They probably will
have a 24-hour Brett Favre news channel, but for now we just have ESPN
by madeintaiwan on Aug 6, 2008 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Brett Favre
is the greatest quarterback in the history of football… Dont you dare say something against him ;)
Yadi swings and hits a high fly ball... Endy Chavez goes back, to the track, to the wall... ITS A GUNNER!! Yadi gives St. Louis the lead in the top of the ninth!
you know the state of affairs has gotten out of control
i went over to my girlfriend’s house last week, and her dad updated me on brett favre information. that’s when you know it’s jumped the shark
Life's a river, kid, you gotta go where it takes you.
by KerouacCardinal on Aug 6, 2008 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions
lets start a petition for
dewitt to shell out the money on k-rod in the offseason!
id settle for Fuentes
not as much money and less of an injury risk. many people think KROD is a huge injury guy
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by jealousblues on Aug 6, 2008 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions
id agree
but after this year having a guy we KNOW can close is just so important. Ideally Id like Perez to be that guy but if he fails…its this year in the pen all over again.
if we had a closer I think we would be in 1st, jmo of course
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by jealousblues on Aug 6, 2008 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions
this game makes me need comfort food...
Off to White Castle!!!!
As seen on Bleed Cubbie Blue message board... "Wait until the Cardinals call up Rasmus..."
by urgeernieball on Aug 6, 2008 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions
watch out for the cheetah
.....dude, forget about the cheetah
by cardsfaninmass on Aug 6, 2008 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions
LOL!
hopefully NPH doesn’t steal my car
As seen on Bleed Cubbie Blue message board... "Wait until the Cardinals call up Rasmus..."
by urgeernieball on Aug 6, 2008 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions
he'll be OK & able to play again
i’m hopeful he gets his strenght back & gets back to mashing HRs
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
and running threw walls
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
Exhale
Still tied
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
84 mph, right down main street ... and he took it.
We’ve had our break for this inning.
nice running catch Bombs
Frank owes you a drink
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
joey glove!
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
really for all their faults
they are still a very entertaining and likeable team.
They dont quit either, they just arnt very talented in the pen
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by jealousblues on Aug 6, 2008 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Just realized thats 2 days in a row
if we could just get a clutch hit in the 9th we would have won both games walk-off style.
Milt Thompson FTW!
with the bottom of the order coming up
we probably have to ulcer our way through at least one more inning
so did frank
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
Watch yadi's reaction
watch the replay of Looney’s trickler down the line in the 9th inning. Yadi’s reaction says it all.
Milt Thompson FTW!
how to fix the pen -hopefully
let McCellan close for now.
DL Izzy and Franklin with some made up malady.
Call up Motte and Perez and let them work the latter innings along with Russ Springer.
Use only Villone as a one out lefty.
This ain’t that hard. If it doesn’t work, then at least you tried something with kids who are hungry. Not languishing vets.
Amaury translates into "Punisher of Spheroids" in the lost tongue of Atlantis. Marti means "Belgian Waffle." www.futureredbirds.net
ummm...
have you met our manager and pitching coach…they are named tony larussa and dave duncan
by cardsfaninmass on Aug 6, 2008 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Yep. Simple.
But, you don’t have LaRussa’ s genius. You don’t understand that simplicity is complexity and complexity is simplicity.
easier said than done
but i agree with every thing you say
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
is it worth it
if those young guys aren’t ready for the major yet though? not saying its a bad idea just curious on your thoughts about that
their #'s say they are ready
how could they be worse?
Amaury translates into "Punisher of Spheroids" in the lost tongue of Atlantis. Marti means "Belgian Waffle." www.futureredbirds.net
This is part heat-of-the-moment anger, and part of all season,
but when does Tony get fired?
You do NOT put a guy in to blow games over and over and over and over and over just to get a stupid statistic. How many games would we have won if we didn’t have Izzy chasing a big round number?
does 27 blown saves
answer the question?
Yadi swings and hits a high fly ball... Endy Chavez goes back, to the track, to the wall... ITS A GUNNER!! Yadi gives St. Louis the lead in the top of the ninth!
does anyone else think
the guys in the booth are just disgusted
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Dont take me seriously :-D
sound more shell shocked than anything
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
i think it was dan
was POed about the pen
then made a sarcastic comment about Mather only being 160 feet shy on that one
i was like, “ouch”
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by jealousblues on Aug 6, 2008 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Shannon and Rooney
sound busted and disgusted.
And yes, I coined that phrase busted and disgusted when I lived in Canada. We did a lot of crazy stuff. In Canada.
Amaury translates into "Punisher of Spheroids" in the lost tongue of Atlantis. Marti means "Belgian Waffle." www.futureredbirds.net
Best possible out come of this mess tonight
Mather hits one out in in a minute and we get the win. And we wake up tomorrow to find out McClellan is the new closer. I don’t mind sitting through this shit if it means Izzy is OUT!
Milt Thompson FTW!
ok..well forget the mather part
Milt Thompson FTW!
Izzy? Out?
but it’d make him sad to not get 300!
and more grit
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
Mini Me
is pure grit
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
Do you think that Carp is still watching this one?
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
I think I saw a shot of the dugout
and you could see Carp vomiting in the corner
Testicle-exploding shit storm, circa 7/12/08 - We will never forget!
he's getting drunk with shannon
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
there you go aaron
this lil guy has really done well this year
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Dont take me seriously :-D
The green light for Glaus
on 3/0 tells me there will be change. Only because its now a public relations disaster. Everyone is culpable. It would be better for the team if they lost, just to expose the farce further. The sad thing is they’re going to make Garcia the fall guy.
Westcoastbirdwatcher
by westcoastbirdwatcher on Aug 6, 2008 12:23 AM EDT reply actions
Garcia will pitch
until the game is over…
I don't understand how Glaus swinging on 3-0 is a public relations disaster. Explain?
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
LaRusa had to call it.
The was a terrible baseball move. Terrible signal to team and Yadi. Tony showing desperation. Everyone looks bad, especially the “Stand Pater’s”. If you think Glaus is a situation bat, you join them.
Westcoastbirdwatcher
by westcoastbirdwatcher on Aug 6, 2008 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions
someones gotta say it
Glaus doesnt give a damn about black people
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by jealousblues on Aug 6, 2008 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions
I just don't get the miles bashing
anyone who watches the games can see how important he is
by cardsfaninmass on Aug 6, 2008 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions
That may be so
But I would rather see him up in the late innings than most of the guys on our roster.
by tangledbrett on Aug 6, 2008 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Screw this.
For a recommendation of what to do instead of taking years off your life by watching this bullpen, try MLB Power Pros 08.
loved the rpg mode in last year’s ps2 release – looking forward to picking up the new one for the nintendo ds very soon!
FIP > ERA, OBP > AVG
Yeah, it's better than last year.
You’ve basically got a sucess mode for your whole major-league career.
Maybe Iz2 can walk on 4 pitchouts ;-)
40th anniversary of Gibson's 1.12 ERA, Think he could pitch in the bullpen now?
You know, Grit should be our closer
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
hail Caesar!
and Miles to 3rd
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Dont take me seriously :-D
move those little legs!!!!!
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by urgeernieball on Aug 6, 2008 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions
anywhere we can see who cleared waivers?
I’d take Jarrod Washburn as a closer at this point.
thank you jeff kent
alright SKIPPY, time for some more magic
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
C'mon Skip
Do your walkoff thing
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
passed ball please
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
Passed ball, wild pitch, I'll take anything
40th anniversary of Gibson's 1.12 ERA, Think he could pitch in the bullpen now?
bad exchange rate on the peso for skip
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
Will the team even celebrate if we win?
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
wow...here we are again
a single wins it. third times a charm?
Milt Thompson FTW!
Crap, Sasme old same old
40th anniversary of Gibson's 1.12 ERA, Think he could pitch in the bullpen now?
hey, side question
what would gameday look like if a bird flew in and got nailed by the ball ala randy johnson?
yes,
but would there be a bird track, like there is a ball track?
LOL
Is very bad to steal A-Pu's rum...is very bad.
by Power Slurve on Aug 6, 2008 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions
register it as "no pitch"
seriously
Life's a river, kid, you gotta go where it takes you.
by KerouacCardinal on Aug 6, 2008 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions
SO MANY CHANCES
this is getting really old….can someone get a hit when it counts!
Milt Thompson FTW!
Going to bed, not gonna be groggy all day tomorrow because of Izzy
Go Cards, surprise me while I dream of an effective bullpen
good night
hope your dreams come true…
Yadi swings and hits a high fly ball... Endy Chavez goes back, to the track, to the wall... ITS A GUNNER!! Yadi gives St. Louis the lead in the top of the ninth!
dont forget to make sure he can hit as well as he can field
oh & a 2nd baseman with the same skillz
sweet dreams
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
well
if the team wins and comes out to celebrate the win, i bet you izzy will NOT be on the field to celebrate.
Cardwash - Cardinal, Washington fan (Washington???? Yeah, I know)
It looks like someone rubbed him down with oil.
Hope not. If he is thrown out of the game, Miles will have to pitch.
saddly ive missed every game (or inning for games ive seen)
where Miles pitched
it makes me a sad panda
Chris got an out!
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Dont take me seriously :-D
i saw miles pitch in person
at RFK. it made me a happy panda
Life's a river, kid, you gotta go where it takes you.
by KerouacCardinal on Aug 6, 2008 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions
How about lee smith? how quickly can he get in shape?
If farve can unretire, couldn’t we bring back big lee to help the bullpen?
40th anniversary of Gibson's 1.12 ERA, Think he could pitch in the bullpen now?
It's not the speed it's the (lack of) motion
that makes all of Izzys pitches look like watermelons coming to the plate
40th anniversary of Gibson's 1.12 ERA, Think he could pitch in the bullpen now?
which is weird
because it looked like he had decent motion against the fist couple of batters, and then it collapesed. Izzy’s problems are mental. I dont’ know what’s going on
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
"no glaring holes" - Mo
Put that in your bullpen and blow it.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
Torre is a good manager
How did he get so great after leaving St. Louis?
The time has come for someone to put his foot down and that foot is me
because he joined the yankees
at the right time hank steinbrenner decided to throw as much money as he wanted to buy up all the talent in the 90s.
Cardwash - Cardinal, Washington fan (Washington???? Yeah, I know)
Actually he joined a dynasty built by Stick Mitchell
That team was built when Steinbrenner’s worthless carcass was banned from the game. And they haven’t won since that core started to fracture.
Is very bad to steal A-Pu's rum...is very bad.
by Power Slurve on Aug 6, 2008 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm still just flabberghasted (sp?) at the 9th inning
Our pitches gave up 4 singles and 1 walk in the first 8 innings. The Dodgers aren’t a great-hitting team. It’s so frustrating!
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
springer and a bucket of fried chicken
by cardsfaninmass on Aug 6, 2008 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions
with out bullpen?
extra crispy
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Aug 6, 2008 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions
out = our
i was watching the play Iz2 made while typing
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Aug 6, 2008 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Fried chicken sounds absolutely delicious right now
Of course, when doesn’t it?
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
yes it does
anyone know an all night chicken place in STL? ;-)
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by jealousblues on Aug 6, 2008 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions
just go to..
White Castle’s… they have those delicious chicken rings… mmmm
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by urgeernieball on Aug 6, 2008 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions
but the last two times
whiteys managed to ruin their delicious bergers
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by jealousblues on Aug 6, 2008 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions
get the chicken rings!!!!!!!!!!
but not the flavored ones… yuck
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by urgeernieball on Aug 6, 2008 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't know what those are
But they couldn’t top a Popeye’s/Mrs. Winner’s/hell, even KFC leg & thigh
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
george likes his spicy chicken
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
by gdm426 on Aug 6, 2008 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
what about the cooler cart
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
After garcia, Springer, tehn Miles or Looper
40th anniversary of Gibson's 1.12 ERA, Think he could pitch in the bullpen now?
what's wrong with springer?
Life's a river, kid, you gotta go where it takes you.
by KerouacCardinal on Aug 6, 2008 12:31 AM EDT reply actions
He's been used in three games straight going into the off day
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
Wonder how many innings garcia could go?
40th anniversary of Gibson's 1.12 ERA, Think he could pitch in the bullpen now?
Until the game is over
I think Garcia is in there until the game is over, for better or worse.
Well, he's a starter
He could go awhile theoretically
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
So…can we vote Izzy off the island now? D.GOOCH (I could have swore we put out his tribal torch earlier in the year…)
-- GOOCH
how bad is a BP of KMac, Motte, Perez, Villone, Garcia, Springer, Thompson?
gotta be league average right?
McClellan the 9th...
Franklin the 8th, Thompson the 7th and Piniero to long relief when Wainer comes back?
I'd rather leave thompson where he is
and use Looper in the 9th or 8th
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
with our roster?
yes. A decent setup guy is more important than a #5 starter
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
Yeah
I see your point, guess I feel like Franklin is okay for the 8th, though. Either way I can’t see Wainer in the pen unless his health can’t support 6 innings+
That second pitch to Wade
was way too good a pitch to waste throwing to a pitcher.
Izturis
can pick it. He is a huge improvement over Eck in the field. Just like the old days when shortstops had a good year when they hit .230 but could really field the position. He is this generation’s Dal Maxvill.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down and that foot is me
we should make him GM
that’s not a knock on mo…i just find the image of cesar as GM humorous.
Life's a river, kid, you gotta go where it takes you.
by KerouacCardinal on Aug 6, 2008 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Nope
Omar is this generation’s Luis Aparicio. But still not as great as Ozzie.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down and that foot is me
if you are going to walk him
bean him and save your arm
You've been calling for the beanball all night
Does the name Kirby Puckett mean anything to you?
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
Give me a break
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
oh
1. eyes were glaucoma
2. stroke from weight
3. lighten up francis
Send down Stavinoha, bring up Perez or Motte
Make McClellan the closer (he’s good against lefties and righties both). Put Perez or Motte in McClellan’s current role.
Ludwick has been pressing in crucial at bats
needs to find relaxed focus in those situations, like Albert, and like Tiger Woods.
He hit it hard
In the 9th, but it was right at Blake.
agreed.
nice play by blake to save a run
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by urgeernieball on Aug 6, 2008 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions
i wish it always worked that way
Life's a river, kid, you gotta go where it takes you.
by KerouacCardinal on Aug 6, 2008 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions
i like this Jaime kid
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
Bullpen Goat de jure award definitely goes to Izzy tonight
40th anniversary of Gibson's 1.12 ERA, Think he could pitch in the bullpen now?
holy crap he got on!
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
If girardi was managing the cards here
he’d have pujols bunt over kennedy.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
Guess wade must have more batting experience since torre let him hit
and then pulled him, or maybe he is taking lessons from TLR?
I can imagine them singing a duet:
“anything you can do i can do better”
“I can do anything better than you”
40th anniversary of Gibson's 1.12 ERA, Think he could pitch in the bullpen now?
they allowed the relief pitcher to hit,
then relieved him?
Life's a river, kid, you gotta go where it takes you.
by KerouacCardinal on Aug 6, 2008 12:38 AM EDT reply actions
unfortunately,
unfortunately, podlol said what i said earlier and better than i did.
Life's a river, kid, you gotta go where it takes you.
by KerouacCardinal on Aug 6, 2008 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions
alright
just got here and now we will win
gonna need more franklins to get through this one.
by hoofhearted-pujols on Aug 6, 2008 12:39 AM EDT reply actions
where were you when we needed you in the 9th?
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
work
sorry
gonna need more franklins to get through this one.
by hoofhearted-pujols on Aug 6, 2008 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions
told you guys
gonna need more franklins to get through this one.
by hoofhearted-pujols on Aug 6, 2008 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions
well done
never go to work again
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
WISH THAT WAS POSSIBLE!!
gonna need more franklins to get through this one.
by hoofhearted-pujols on Aug 6, 2008 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions
just leave early
i’m sure you’re boss will understand when you tell him how important you are to your team
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
I AM THE BOSS
THATS WHAT SUCKS!! IF I LEAVE EARLY THEY ALL WANT TO
gonna need more franklins to get through this one.
by hoofhearted-pujols on Aug 6, 2008 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Are you saying it sucks to be the boss?
Grrrrr
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
dude, if your the boss
you make the rules right?
well the rules say you leave early. if they dont like it, tough cookies
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heres the game
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Tough choice, IBB pujols and put winning run at second?
ir pitch to him?
40th anniversary of Gibson's 1.12 ERA, Think he could pitch in the bullpen now?
well
he hit it, just foul
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Aug 6, 2008 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions
i cant watch...
another inning
Yadi swings and hits a high fly ball... Endy Chavez goes back, to the track, to the wall... ITS A GUNNER!! Yadi gives St. Louis the lead in the top of the ninth!
well
that was uncharactoristic
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Guys - wht happened? I just left and came back. The Izzyantor in the 9th?
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
you guess
correct, sir.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Aug 6, 2008 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Valone gave up a HR
then Izzy came in and gave up 3 more
My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!
With an assist from Villone
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
johnson's diabetic?
Life's a river, kid, you gotta go where it takes you.
by KerouacCardinal on Aug 6, 2008 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions
least it was not a DP
I guess with adn 0-2 he had to defend the plate?
40th anniversary of Gibson's 1.12 ERA, Think he could pitch in the bullpen now?
come on luddy make me pay
for my worst fbb trade since Papelbon in 2006
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Ludwick needs to hit it had down the line like he did last time
only past Blake this time, so Kennedy can score
Benches are way too thin
Maybe the Union would give up the DH for a larger active roster? The game would be better for it.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down and that foot is me
go go go go ggout
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sweet jesus!!!!!!!
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AND THAT'S A WALK OFF WINNER!!!!
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
YES!
Life's a river, kid, you gotta go where it takes you.
by KerouacCardinal on Aug 6, 2008 12:44 AM EDT reply actions
Bean the chicken
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
Mmmm pinto beans
This whole thread is making me really hungry but I don’t have near enough money to go out and buy something, and I don’t have the energy to cook
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
that was unnecessary
since we could have won this game three times by now
by barry whiteteeth on Aug 6, 2008 12:44 AM EDT reply actions
THUDWICK
Amaury translates into "Punisher of Spheroids" in the lost tongue of Atlantis. Marti means "Belgian Waffle." www.futureredbirds.net
Hooray, now I can go to sleep, goodnight all!
40th anniversary of Gibson's 1.12 ERA, Think he could pitch in the bullpen now?
ball Game
Please for the sake of god Kyle gets the closer job tomorrow, stav goes down and we get perez back
New Member of the Skip Schumaker Fan Club
THATS WHY I LOVE
LUDDY!!!!!!
Yadi swings and hits a high fly ball... Endy Chavez goes back, to the track, to the wall... ITS A GUNNER!! Yadi gives St. Louis the lead in the top of the ninth!
LUDDY@!
I am soo glad I didnt go to bed!
MVP!
yeah baby!
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
i've had to use the restroom since the 8th inning...
thank you ryan…
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they do have comercials
;-)
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by jealousblues on Aug 6, 2008 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions
not enough time...
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by urgeernieball on Aug 6, 2008 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Haven't you seen the commercials...
For Flomax?
oh, THAT kind of bathroom
just turn the volume up really loud
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by jealousblues on Aug 6, 2008 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions
LOL!
can’t… roommates asleep….
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by urgeernieball on Aug 6, 2008 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't even know if I'm happy, just relieved
Kennedy had a nice night tonight, btw
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
I feel the same way
like pissed off that it had to be the hard
by cardsfaninmass on Aug 6, 2008 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions
today is my birthday
a Cardinal walk off is JUST what I was hoping for!! ;-)
When cheese gets its picture taken, what does it say?
by RosevilleRedbird on Aug 6, 2008 12:45 AM EDT reply actions
it's also my sister's birthday
are you my sister?
My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!
Happy Birthday.
For your birthday, though, could you ask for a new closer? Preferably one by the name of Kyle?
*untucks shirt*
well that was awesome…
maybe we can start a streak off a dat
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They have their frustrating moments
but this team really is so fun to watch, in the end. Hold on, boys
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
it appears
it appears that my pre-emptive beer did the trick
Life's a river, kid, you gotta go where it takes you.
by KerouacCardinal on Aug 6, 2008 12:45 AM EDT reply actions
that was no pre-emptive
that was medicinal
typically
there isn’t for me…but i only had one franklin in the fridge. thus, i had to conserve. but i got so exasperated that i needed to crack it oopen.
Life's a river, kid, you gotta go where it takes you.
by KerouacCardinal on Aug 6, 2008 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions
luddites rejoice
again
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
To: Ryan Ludwick From: Izzy
1 – 62 inch hi-def tv
1 – wii
1 – $50 gas card
1 – fruit basket
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
is he buying him 10 1/2 gallons only?
Life's a river, kid, you gotta go where it takes you.
by KerouacCardinal on Aug 6, 2008 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions
1 case of the beer of your choice + a 10 oz. Filet Mignon + a Maine lobster
You know he can afford it
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
weren't all the runners charged to izzy?
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
Plus locker space
that he cleaned out, maybe?
by StanTheManFan on Aug 6, 2008 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions
forgot
Guitar Hero 3 and Rockband
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
that's my boy...
"..and that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana shaped." -Sir Belvedere
Yessir it is
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
Dont those walkoff wins just make everything worth it
bring up perez, do not put Wainwright in the closer’s role and paint the town in badger’s blood
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
badger's blood?
i’m sorry if that’s an easy reference…but you’re going to have to explain.
Life's a river, kid, you gotta go where it takes you.
by KerouacCardinal on Aug 6, 2008 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions
badgers?
badgers?
we don’t need no stinkin’ badgers
these kind of badgers?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOxR7rTYuSI
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by urgeernieball on Aug 6, 2008 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions
ROFLMAO!
nice… i didn’t even see it coming
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by urgeernieball on Aug 6, 2008 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions
actually it is just what my friend always says when I ask him what he wants to do tonight
He says “lets paint the town in badgers blood”
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
i prefer
the streets will flow with the blood of the non-believers
I AM THE GREAT CORNHOLLIO!
ARE YOU THREATENING ME?
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we signed
felipe lopez??
Yadi swings and hits a high fly ball... Endy Chavez goes back, to the track, to the wall... ITS A GUNNER!! Yadi gives St. Louis the lead in the top of the ninth!
he's not an upgrade over Izturis or Ryan
because he’ll let another 10% of balls hit to SS go through. If they want offense at SS just play Miles there. It’s literally the same thing.
if we're down, though
we can throw Lopez in to the game, and if we’re up, we can put Izturis there. This allows for late inning adjustments
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
If they keep Miles on the bench, they can do the same thing
or they can move him over to SS and bring in kennedy. There’s absolutely no upgrade here that I can see.
but that's not as much offense as leaving miles at 2b and bringing in lopez
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
Really?
Because Miles + Kennedy looks exactly the same as Miles + Lopez to me. Lopez was hitting just .234 /.302/.314 and really hasn’t been good since 2005.
yeah, expecting him to revert to his 2005 levels
seems pretty unrealistic. I know RFK can be murder but that excuse was taken away this year.
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In Lopez's defense
I think his road OPS is around .730 this year, which is (sigh) and upgrade over Izturis. Not saying he’ll duplicate those numbers in Busch, but still
Yeah
Pretty rapid decline since 2005
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
Lopez has better splits vs. RHP, but so does Kennedy
And Lopez at SS provides only marginally more offense than Izturis and Ryan. This signing makes no sense. Miles is probably a better alternative than Lopez at both 2B and SS. Strange….
This must mean Ryan goes to AAA.
.350 OBP, .776 SLG the last three years vs. LHP
Actually Lopez has been better vs. LHP than RHP the last three years, combined. Maybe the Cards plan to put him into a platoon with Miles/Kennedy at 2B.
Oops. Make that vs. RHP.
This just makes no sense, unless it’s a hail Mary move, in hopes that Lopez will find his power in St. Louis….
wow, I didn't know he declined THAT much
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
azru, you're exaggerating!
because he’ll kick about half of the 10% as they go by. (I think he was last in the league in fielding pct. a few years ago, which doesn’t much help below average range numbers.)
As for his bat, I think he’s like Izturis in that he had one good year about four or five years ago.
At least the bench player won't be a crappier clone of the starter
it’ll be an equally bad player with a different skillset. I can live with that
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
This is like when we signed Jose Vizcaino in '06
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
My only memory of Vizcaino from '06
is the World Series celebration. He was very enthusiastic. And I wondered “what the hell is Vizcaino jumping around for?”
I loved Vizcaino
He was a monster for us. He hit 348/375/609 and yes that is slg. I know it was only 23 AB but those 23 ab might have some how won us one game which helped get us in the playoffs which we won. So Vizcaino should be happy b/c he helped us win world series.
Yadi is my hero
Our weak MIF was 6 for 12 (.500)
The rest 9 for 34, (.265)
40th anniversary of Gibson's 1.12 ERA, Think he could pitch in the bullpen now?
Do the Cards give Izzy a blanket party tonight?
Is very bad to steal A-Pu's rum...is very bad.
led by
kiefer sutherland
Life's a river, kid, you gotta go where it takes you.
by KerouacCardinal on Aug 6, 2008 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions
hopefully its the best of both worlds
we still won the game and Izzy was so bad that McClellan becomes the closer.
Milt Thompson FTW!
Can't wait to hear larussa
tap dance about the bullpen…nothing to deflect the attention to
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
OK x 10
OK, good + Carp’s (part way) back, Waino on the mend and MVPwick comes through. Not at all bad!
City to Izzy – going away song – “Memphis in June” – Nina Simone
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
I was thinking "Taps" might be more appropriate for Izzy's career
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
Motte or Perez de facto cannot be worse than Izzy. What's to lose by giving some experince to either P or M?
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
whatever
you can be negative without putting down gay people
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
meaning valatans
comment
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
I'd say gay people have had harsher treatment in the past
than me insinuating that gay buttsex is the only thing keeping Izzy on the team. But w/e.
Just keep digging that hole man
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
It's his hole
let him dig himself out of it.
My fellow Americans. As a young boy, I dreamed of being a baseball, but tonight I say, we must move forward, not backward, upward not forward, and always twirling, twirling, twirling towards freedom.
Blacked out here.
How did Carp look? (Surprised he was lifted with a 51-pitch count, according to sportsline.)
He was awesome
Lifted because of a rain delay
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
rain delay
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by jealousblues on Aug 6, 2008 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions
good
way better command….lots of fly outs and ground balls..few hard hit
by cardsfaninmass on Aug 6, 2008 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions
z
at least tony seems relaxed…
so far
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the Cat is good at making people laugh
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i put it on pause while I was making food.
he was just joking around before the questions were asked.
talked about Carp being pulled because the rain
ryan being sent down and coming up in sept
talked about Izzy a bit, how he (izzy) is dissapoined
still watching
Lopez will be here tom
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the Cat or Tony?
because if your asking what the Cat said, i couldnt hear all of it. but him & Tony have a joke going about the Cat getting Tony an after game drink before the post game press conference. and thats what got Tony laughing.
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if i was a press member i'd do a compliment sandwich right here
Great start by carp….....your bullpen sucks..andwhatawalkoffbyludwick!
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
All we need to make this thread complete is a TOLAXOR sighting
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
whats TOLAXOR
www.GriffinandtheGargoyles.com
www.myspace.com/GriffinandtheGargoyles
Dont take me seriously :-D
The best VEB user of ALL TIME
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
does that mean he types in ALL CAPS?
"I have CDO. It's like OCD, but the letters are in alphabetical order. Like they should be."
Stats from this game
Interestingly enough, Izzy got a hold for that…
...and Franklin a blown save.
I think Franklin pitched OK – gave up a run on a sac fly with the bases loaded and 1 out. That’s not a terrible outcome. Izzy, on the other hand…
I love hate the hold statistic
izzy has doen this a few times this yr blown one and got a hold..i think he should get a BS, regardless of win/loss and no hold..you didnt hold anything u blew it up
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
+1
Life's a river, kid, you gotta go where it takes you.
by KerouacCardinal on Aug 6, 2008 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions
"i tell you what, no one feels worse than IZZY"
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
Scotte Eyre anyone?
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
aren't 2 former cubs enough?
As seen on Bleed Cubbie Blue message board... "Wait until the Cardinals call up Rasmus..."
by urgeernieball on Aug 6, 2008 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions
who was the fuy with dan tonight?
I have never heard a home guy(non National game) where they say that they have to call up reinforcements tom. repeatedly.
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
ricky horton
personally, I love him….not afraid to be critical
by cardsfaninmass on Aug 6, 2008 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions
from what i can tell Tony said
Boog’s going back to Memphis & Lopez is taking his spot
no one really asked him anything. they just lobbed their typical soft balls at him
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
from the nationals
the 2b
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
yeah, they figures dave duncan can fix anything...
apparently lopez has been tipping his hitting
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
lol
appearently he was telling them where he was going to hit it in advance, ala the Babe
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Felipe Lopez
the guy you used as an example of a bad player being DFA’d
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
i dont get this move
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
so they did sign lopez?
another light hitting MIF?
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
It's taking everything in my power to not tell
Izzy to go play in traffic.
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 6, 2008 12:59 AM EDT reply actions
Maybe Izzy can clobber a TV again. Surely he must be getting the picture by now
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
Ok, didn't know about Lopez
but they will need a closer tomorrow and they will need help in the pen.
They will have to call up Perez now.
it's a matter of time before they
sign Garcia and eyre
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
Lopez is part one of my deadline predeiction
that they would be mentioned in all th enames stand pat and go after garbage…then sign garcia..they were with a bunch of teams that scouted him today
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
Freddy
the rocks twin
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
Was that the biggest
9th-inning lead Cards have blown this season?
They are starting to run together in my mind.
the pirates, we are up 10 to 6 and Izzy gives up the three run bomb to Mclouth
Michaels hits a walkoff two run bomb in the tenth while we are up 1
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
God, of course
Now my stomach really hurts.
What a season. What a bullpen.
Seriously though guys
I think the time has come to stop sending Izzy or Franklin out in the ninth to save the game! Lets try Kmac or Jaime or Thompson or Miles or Albert or Hell even Kelvim Jimenez or Mike Parisi. You literally cannot be worse than those two have been. Stop the insanity. Stop it now. no, do not talk just stop it
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
if we had sent franklin out
after the AJ bomb, all would have been well and Luddy wouldn’t have gotten all smacked around.
"..and that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana shaped." -Sir Belvedere
Lopez press release
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
didn he
at least have some speed?
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We need to find a league
that plays 6-inning games.
Or one that lets you reinsert a pitcher
in the 9th inning.
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 6, 2008 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions
I think my 5 year old nephew
plays in a league like that
Izturis would like the option to hit off a tee too…
The LLWS is starting up pretty soon
I’m fairly confident we could own that
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
dunno
with the way izzy is goign right now
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
Maybe Izzy can rehab his arm in a Tball league
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
+1
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
by Bahamaredbird on Aug 6, 2008 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Well played sir
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
Yep and I guess Mo answers our calls in your thread to pick us up a "spark"
Oh can you feel it…..this one has Will Clark and Larry Walker written all over it. Uugh!
well
there is no collusion deal for Lopez
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if i were him, i'd be screaming that from the mountain tops
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
Yes, because Bonds would solve all of our problems...
Last time I checked, the outfielders ain’t the problem.
No
but scoring runs certainly is. And Skip can’t hit LHP.
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 6, 2008 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Last I checked...which was tonight...
our problem has been closing out games. Give us a closer for the whole season and we’d be in first more than likely
"Ding-dong the wicked witch is dead!" - Wayne Hagin after the cardinals snapped a losing streak
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Aug 6, 2008 2:09 AM EDT up reply actions
I guess the solution is to just go into the 9th with a 6 run lead every night?
very realistic
"Ding-dong the wicked witch is dead!" - Wayne Hagin after the cardinals snapped a losing streak
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Aug 6, 2008 2:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Maybe we would've signed bonds...
if we had 2 sub .600 OPS outfielders.
"Ding-dong the wicked witch is dead!" - Wayne Hagin after the cardinals snapped a losing streak
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Aug 6, 2008 2:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Woah, 3 replies to one statement
Seem very against Barry Bonds.
Again, going back to the original point: How does Felipe Lopez help with the bullpen? Make them feel better about themselves when they take their weekly BP session?
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 6, 2008 2:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Your point was
that scoring runs has been the problem. My point was that scoring runs hasn’t been the problem. they’ve scored more runs than the rays, angels and brewers.
Your pont was we should’ve signed Bonds and not Lopez. My point was the cardinals have outfielders who can play, but not shortstops.
Not sure why you think I said lopez would help the bullpen, but whatever.
"Ding-dong the wicked witch is dead!" - Wayne Hagin after the cardinals snapped a losing streak
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Aug 6, 2008 2:32 AM EDT up reply actions
I said the should have signed Bonds
not Lopez.
He said, the OF ain’t the problem.
I said, scoring runs is.
You said, the bullpen was the problem.
I said, that has nothing to do with this.
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 6, 2008 2:55 AM EDT up reply actions
its two seperate arguments...
Runs aren’t the problem – Bullpen is
our shortstops suck so we signed a shortstop – Our outfielders don’t suck so we didn’t sign an outfielder.
"Ding-dong the wicked witch is dead!" - Wayne Hagin after the cardinals snapped a losing streak
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Aug 6, 2008 2:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Our bench has
Adam Kennedy, Brendan Ryan, Cesar Izturis, Nick Stavinoha, Joe Mather or Skip Schumaker (who can’t hit LHP) and Jason LaRue on it.
And we upgrade it by getting a slightly worse hitter than most of those guys.
It just seems odd that the Cardinals can sign a bad player who MIGHT be good for cheap but can’t sign an elite hitter who MIGHT suck for cheap.
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 6, 2008 3:19 AM EDT up reply actions
good night all
stressful game but very nice outcome
When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom
Mo just said Lopez was a "plus" defensively
In other news, Reggie Sanders has a terrible, terrible smile.
at least he's hinting at he doens't want Frank & IZZY
pitching the late innings any more
it’s about damn time MO. take charge & get those guys out of the late innings. you owe it to every one in the clubhouse.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
Those were the days.......
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."
Quote from a MLB article when Lopez was released from the Nats
“There were times when teammates and the front office felt that Lopez didn’t play hard, but Lopez denied it. He said he was often frustrated and it showed on the field.”
A team with Cesar Izturis, Felipe Lopez and Adam Kennedy
Man are we lucky or what. The only guy we are missing now is Miguel Cairo. Think we will get him to fill the September roster?
Oh, August 5ths...
Thats 28 of them now.
A birthday with some rain delays, some blown saves, and a walk off winner. Cap it off with a catfish poboy and a bottle of red and I’m a happy camper.
God damn am I happy to see Carp back on the mound. He has easily the best “mound presence” for a guy since Pedro was unhittable ten years ago. Even after a year and a half break, you can tell in the first when Carpenter is “on.”
Him and Wainwright being in the same roation together is going to be really special.
As for that “bullpen” of ours… let Izzy go, DFA him, try to get a c level prospect if you can (as harsh as that sounds to the franchise saves leader, you have to at this point. He’s got a fucking fork sticking out of his back), bring Perez back up, bring Motte up, only allow Villone to pitch to lefties, and make McClellen the closer, and you’re fixed.
That easy, problem solved.
My fellow Americans. As a young boy, I dreamed of being a baseball, but tonight I say, we must move forward, not backward, upward not forward, and always twirling, twirling, twirling towards freedom.
by Alxfritz on Aug 6, 2008 1:42 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I can hear the interview now
Reporter: “John, at the deadline the Cardinals were neither buyers or sellers yet were still somewhat in contention in the National League Central. What do you say to fans who wonder why the non-activity?”
Mo: “What the heck do you mean? The Brewers went out and got C.C. Sabathia and Ray Durham. We went out and got Chris Carpenter and Felipe Lopez. What more do the fans want?”
Reporter: “Well, the bullpen is a mess, most importantly the closers role. What could have been done there?”
Mo: “Listen dunderhead, you ever heard of a guy called the Mad Hungarian? 97 career saves ring a bell? He believes, and I agree, that based purely on sentimental and anecdotal support we should put Adam Wainwright, our best starting pitcher, in the bullpen to be the closer. Sure, he would be immensely more valuable replacing Wellemeyer or Looper in the rotation, giving us 8 innings every 5 days. But the need is in the bullpen. How many other teams can say they picked up a World Series clinching closer in August?”
How absurd is it to think
that Ryan Ludwick was getting platooned in the first two months of the season? The teams MVP (this season) and he couldn’t even crack the lineup.
He should have been a full-time player in april of '07.
oh, what might have been.
"..and that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana shaped." -Sir Belvedere
Can you imagine
what the roster would look like right now if Aaron Miles’ stray foulball hadn’t ruined Juan’s career and destroyed his quality of life?
Would Skip be here? Would Ludwick be here? Would Mather have gotten a shot? Would they have selected Brian Barton? Would I be an alcoholic?
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 6, 2008 2:58 AM EDT up reply actions
wow
one word: grit
strikeouts from left-center
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 6, 2008 3:10 AM EDT up reply actions
just a shame WJ didn't dump juan's salary
at the deadline in ‘07. Or ‘06, for that matter.
"..and that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana shaped." -Sir Belvedere
meant to add
if WJ had moved juan at he deadline, even for nothing (as many suggested), he wouldn’t have been hurt.
"..and that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana shaped." -Sir Belvedere
felipe lopez's wikipedia page has already been updated
wow…that was fast
I just have to say
what a game to have missed! unbelievably crazy…
strikeouts from left-center
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 6, 2008 3:11 AM EDT reply actions
so they're addressing the bullpen situation
by adding Lopez so they can free up Miles to pitch?
I wish I was joking, but… I’m really not.
I have a love/hate relationship with the Cardinals' middle relief corps.
It's a good morning
Carp had 5 innings, 0 runs, and only 51 pitches. BOOyah.
but no VEB morning post!
My morning is incomplete.
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