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Game 115 Overflow II - When Bad Bullpens Go Really Bad

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I have nothing nice to say right now so I'll just say nothing at all.

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I am OK with the Green Light there.

Pujols is going to score on a basehit. There are more ways to score from third, but Glaus has to be a green light hitter for us.

by Egyptian on Aug 6, 2008 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

glaus leads qualified batters on this team by a wide margin in swinging at the fewest balls outside the strike zone according to fangraphs. he also leads the team by a fair margin in pitches per plate appearance. he even has a slightly higher career BB% than pujols, the #2 in O-SWING and BB%. for what little it’s worth i personally trust his eye, and would trust him to swing at 3-0 counts whenever he wants.

FIP > ERA, OBP > AVG

by astrostl on Aug 6, 2008 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, but

raconteur leads qualified posters in angry, vitriolic comments directed at players for failing at what he believes to be simple athletic tasks. you can’t argue with that.

"so if you can’t understand what someone else is saying why don’t you just shut up about it instead of being a jerk-off?"

by baw on Aug 6, 2008 2:10 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Indeed

I’m glad I’m not the only one that notices that.

by roebirds on Aug 6, 2008 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

great

My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!

by 82Special on Aug 6, 2008 12:03 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sigh.

Sigh.

I don’t know what to do. I seriously don’t even know what to feel.

This is almost enough to make me want to stop watching the Cards play until my fellow VEB’ers tell me that the bullpen situation is at least partially rectified.

by mojowo11 on Aug 6, 2008 12:03 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I just farted so loud

biscuits flew out of the oven!

Testicle-exploding shit storm, circa 7/12/08 - We will never forget!

by bjork24 on Aug 6, 2008 12:03 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Izzy should be thankful

Prince Fielder isn’t on his team.

Amaury translates into "Punisher of Spheroids" in the lost tongue of Atlantis. Marti means "Belgian Waffle." www.futureredbirds.net

by erik on Aug 6, 2008 12:03 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes, I am..............

Trust me, it took all I have in me to not wish any physical harm to him or his family.

The way TLR has gotten on his knees to suck off Izzy over the years just adds to my hatred of the player.

I don’t need to hear about what type of a leader or a competitor a guy is. I just want results.

by Hard8 on Aug 6, 2008 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

dude,,,,,,,,

it’s just a game

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 6, 2008 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

this stuff

is why i rarely come to game threads. and i think i speak for a lot of posters.

Amaury translates into "Punisher of Spheroids" in the lost tongue of Atlantis. Marti means "Belgian Waffle." www.futureredbirds.net

by erik on Aug 6, 2008 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, they pretty much are

I’m with erik. I drop in about once or twice a week, then wonder why i came.

by effin fisk on Aug 6, 2008 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My bad. I misread what you wrote.

Posts like that aren’t representative. But the mood of this thread is.

by effin fisk on Aug 6, 2008 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This thread is decisively negative, that's for sure

Unfortunately, that’s become quite commonplace this season, mostly because of all the bullpen implosions

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 6, 2008 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and regardless

a miniority of vulgar nonsense can just ruin things for others, even if it is just ten posts in a 400 post thread.

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Aug 6, 2008 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i just hate to hear people say they wont come in during games

and if i hate it, how does Lboros feel? it’s his site they say they wont come to.

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 6, 2008 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But you also notice he's rarely around for them himself

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 6, 2008 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

sorry - stupid fingers get in the way of typing

lboros has mentioned that he’s often poking around here – but doesn’t feel it would generally be appropriate for him to post during the game threads.

by TNTinCO on Aug 6, 2008 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I completely agree with you

it’s getting really out of hand, and I don’t know what the solution is at this point

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Aug 6, 2008 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can't speak for everyone

but my intention in saying something like this isn’t to be whiny. Its more like a cry for help. No one would be here if we didn’t love this team. But can’t we discuss it like adults? I’m not offended by the occasional F-bomb. But the negativity, tone and immaturity isn’t the exception anymore. It’s the norm.

I come here because I live 2,000 miles away from St. Louis, and I’m looking to connect w/ some fellow fans in a way that’s hard to do from so far away. Not to mention that the analysis is 2nd to none. We still love the site. Heck, erik & Val used to write regularly. Just asking that everyone keep a little perspective.

by effin fisk on Aug 6, 2008 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

completely agree with you

I feel like i’m watching the game with friends when I come here. Although my friends have about 1000 times less baseball knowledge than you guys – they also tend to be a little more optimistic.

by TNTinCO on Aug 6, 2008 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i couldn't agree more

won’t claim that i’m not the source of the occasional meaningless comment, but at least they’re harmless as well.

Rabid Redbird

by gthedamned on Aug 6, 2008 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's pretty fragile

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Aug 6, 2008 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

there is some crazy stuff here…

but I would like to go out on a limb and say that a lot of the “negative” stuff here is simply jokes or slight good hearted jabs or stuff just to make others here laugh

www.GriffinandtheGargoyles.com
www.myspace.com/GriffinandtheGargoyles

Dont take me seriously :-D

by jealousblues on Aug 6, 2008 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you know he is only seven saves away from 300 right?

i guess you are right you have to be pretty bad to do that…

by 916baller on Aug 6, 2008 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Izzy in the 9th

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 6, 2008 12:04 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i remember that

episode

www.GriffinandtheGargoyles.com
www.myspace.com/GriffinandtheGargoyles

Dont take me seriously :-D

by jealousblues on Aug 6, 2008 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well,

I guess I’ll have to see how this thing ends manana, I gott go to bed.

Hopefully, heres to a W!

smack What the crap am I talkin about? I aint goin to bed til this is over!
Lets get a W!

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 6, 2008 12:04 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I find it hard to believe

that there were no deals to be made at the deadline to fix the pen.

by BamaCardinal on Aug 6, 2008 12:05 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

There were no closers available for a reasonable price

blaming Mo is pointless.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Aug 6, 2008 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

at some point a reasonable closer

becomes worth an unreasonable price

by TheBirds on Aug 6, 2008 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

nope

not when this team still has an inconsistent offense and a shitty rest of the bullpen besides the closer.

not worth giving up top prospects to put a bandaid over a bullet wound.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Aug 6, 2008 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Except for Pujols

and Wainwright (who was really a Braves farmhand), when is the last time a Cardinal prospect delivered? Giving up prospects is like giving up lottery tickets.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down and that foot is me

by heathen on Aug 6, 2008 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh come on

How about Dan Haren? He was a Cardinals farmhand. This is the best our farm has looked in a long time. Give me a break.

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 6, 2008 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

k-mac....

ryan ludwick, rick ankiel, yadier molinda…

As seen on Bleed Cubbie Blue message board... "Wait until the Cardinals call up Rasmus..."

by urgeernieball on Aug 6, 2008 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I will give you Molina

Ludwick was a journeyman in various team’s systems, too early to say on k-mac, and it took 7 years to get a return on Ankiel. Haren is the only other prospect I can think of who we developed and unfortunately traded.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down and that foot is me

by heathen on Aug 6, 2008 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Im gonna get shelled for this

but the Cards prospect that I think of delivering just signed an extension with the DBacks. Other than that, I think of Matty Mo.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 6, 2008 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

molina, haren Kmac, Ank (the second time ;-))

www.GriffinandtheGargoyles.com
www.myspace.com/GriffinandtheGargoyles

Dont take me seriously :-D

by jealousblues on Aug 6, 2008 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The thing is guys and this is obviously just my opinion

but I think that we have the guys we need within our own system to get the job done in the bullpen. The bigger problem is who Tony keeps on trying to rely on to close the games. It is not working so why are you trying the same thing over and over again. We keep on complaining about how bad our closers are but then just put the same guys out on the mound and when they fail again we say we got a big problem. It is insane how many times are we gonna have to blow games with izzy and franklin before we try something else. there are other guys in the bullpen and I am not suggesting that we use flores or villone here but how about Kyle McClellan and on occasion when the other team is especially strong with right handed batters why do we not throw Russ Springer out there. Their are other options in our bullpen that tony just does not explore and to me that is a sign of bad management and stubbornness

When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom

by ANDYAK47 on Aug 6, 2008 4:45 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know how you fix it.

The closer is the problem and we were not going to pay for a closer.

That said, a different lefty reliever perhaps doesn’t give up the AJ homerun.

by Egyptian on Aug 6, 2008 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

There is NO WAY

TLR Can defend izzy tonight.

Cardwash - Cardinal, Washington fan (Washington???? Yeah, I know)

by cardwash on Aug 6, 2008 12:05 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He will

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Aug 6, 2008 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Then he will get burned in the media tomorrow.

The media has to jump all over him and Mo tomorrow.

by Egyptian on Aug 6, 2008 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you are aware the STL media is scarred of Tony right?

they probably wont do any thing

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 6, 2008 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

so?

that doesn’t accomplish anything

and besides, the media in St. Louis is a lap dog for the Cardinals organization.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Aug 6, 2008 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why didn't the offense score more runs??????

[/TLR postgame]

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 6, 2008 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm gonna need a cig after this game

whether we win or lose

Testicle-exploding shit storm, circa 7/12/08 - We will never forget!

by bjork24 on Aug 6, 2008 12:06 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Me too

I don’t even smoke

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 6, 2008 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i'm about to start back up

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 6, 2008 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Perez or Motte

no reason not to give someone a chance (other than Waino)

My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!

by 82Special on Aug 6, 2008 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bueller? Bueller?

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 6, 2008 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mo

I don’t blame mo for not making a trade, only 1 lefty was traded at the deadline because every team that had a lefty relief pitcher was asking way to much for a 2 month fix

Cardwash - Cardinal, Washington fan (Washington???? Yeah, I know)

by cardwash on Aug 6, 2008 12:07 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Izzy or Jiminez?

which is the lesser of 2 evils right now?

by TheBirds on Aug 6, 2008 12:08 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Trick question

Roosters don’t lay eggs!!

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 6, 2008 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Which came first?

izzy or the blown save?

by TheBirds on Aug 6, 2008 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh man

both are complete crap

Cardwash - Cardinal, Washington fan (Washington???? Yeah, I know)

by cardwash on Aug 6, 2008 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

5 straight sliders to Kemp

I hate it when they throw the same pitch over and over

it seems like we always get burned that way

My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!

by 82Special on Aug 6, 2008 12:09 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nah

They’re worth like 20 million or so.

by rencelas on Aug 6, 2008 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

2003's bullpen was bad

But I would see better going and watching the AA Huntsville Stars’ bullpen right now

Maybe that’s a little much, but Jesus H. Christ, this is a new level of suck

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 6, 2008 12:11 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

2003 BP > 2008 BP

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Aug 6, 2008 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

anyone ever heard of addition by subtraction?

I wouldn’t mind someone explaining it to Izzy and Vilone

Franklin’s about to make the same list

My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!

by 82Special on Aug 6, 2008 12:11 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

is it possible to be in the playoff hunt

and have 5 or 6 guys who don’t belong in the majors on your roster?

by vances law on Aug 6, 2008 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

tony looks pissed

when he went out to the mound

by 916baller on Aug 6, 2008 12:11 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

+1

this assumption he goes by that says all relievers are basically equal and we can go back and forth with no loss of effectiveness is just bs

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Aug 6, 2008 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is just sickening....something needs to be done

the fans are paying way too much money on tickets for this garbage to continue.

by KYCards on Aug 6, 2008 12:11 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

if we had a competent bullpen

we’d be way out over the cubs in first right now, easily the best record in baseball.

bullpens are never a “strength” of a baseball team.

The only thing bullpens can be in baseball are not being weaknesses.

Cardwash - Cardinal, Washington fan (Washington???? Yeah, I know)

by cardwash on Aug 6, 2008 12:13 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Not sure I agree with that

We’d be better, but I can’t say we’d have the best record in baseball. Too many other holes (other than bullpen)

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 6, 2008 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I still say

Relief pitchers are starting pitchers that never made it…

Yadi swings and hits a high fly ball... Endy Chavez goes back, to the track, to the wall... ITS A GUNNER!! Yadi gives St. Louis the lead in the top of the ninth!

by Paulspike on Aug 6, 2008 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

really

he might have actually had a chance to go to 1b on that, in addition to the horrible swing

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Aug 6, 2008 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No

Runner was not moving to 2nd base

by saladdays on Aug 6, 2008 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

TLR finally makes a good call

and franklin will probably just walk the next guy

by TheBirds on Aug 6, 2008 12:15 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah

it’s been a while since we had an ole fashioned walk home the winning run

by cardsfaninmass on Aug 6, 2008 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll call it

Walk with bases juiced forces in go ahead run.

by Harknights on Aug 6, 2008 12:15 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

id walk manny

here so I agree. Loney is a good hitter but I just couldnt let manny beat us.

so why is he being booed so much?

www.GriffinandtheGargoyles.com
www.myspace.com/GriffinandtheGargoyles

Dont take me seriously :-D

by jealousblues on Aug 6, 2008 12:15 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

now with loney coming up

do we bring in fuentes?

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Aug 6, 2008 12:15 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This game has literally made me ill

When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom

by ANDYAK47 on Aug 6, 2008 12:16 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This just in:

Brett Favre just ate a midnight snack.

by madeintaiwan on Aug 6, 2008 12:16 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What?!?

what channel?

It’s not on the Brett Favre 24-hour news channel.

by Harknights on Aug 6, 2008 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i stopped watching FarveCenter weeks ago

i just can’t take it anymore

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 6, 2008 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They probably will

have a 24-hour Brett Favre news channel, but for now we just have ESPN

by madeintaiwan on Aug 6, 2008 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brett Favre

is the greatest quarterback in the history of football… Dont you dare say something against him ;)

Yadi swings and hits a high fly ball... Endy Chavez goes back, to the track, to the wall... ITS A GUNNER!! Yadi gives St. Louis the lead in the top of the ninth!

by Paulspike on Aug 6, 2008 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you know the state of affairs has gotten out of control

i went over to my girlfriend’s house last week, and her dad updated me on brett favre information. that’s when you know it’s jumped the shark

Life's a river, kid, you gotta go where it takes you.

by KerouacCardinal on Aug 6, 2008 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lets start a petition for

dewitt to shell out the money on k-rod in the offseason!

by 916baller on Aug 6, 2008 12:16 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

id settle for Fuentes

not as much money and less of an injury risk. many people think KROD is a huge injury guy

www.GriffinandtheGargoyles.com
www.myspace.com/GriffinandtheGargoyles

Dont take me seriously :-D

by jealousblues on Aug 6, 2008 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't want either.

I just want them to try Perez first.

by Egyptian on Aug 6, 2008 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ok but...

let unify and petition for full el birdos force! haha

by 916baller on Aug 6, 2008 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

id agree

but after this year having a guy we KNOW can close is just so important. Ideally Id like Perez to be that guy but if he fails…its this year in the pen all over again.

if we had a closer I think we would be in 1st, jmo of course

www.GriffinandtheGargoyles.com
www.myspace.com/GriffinandtheGargoyles

Dont take me seriously :-D

by jealousblues on Aug 6, 2008 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

this game makes me need comfort food...

Off to White Castle!!!!

As seen on Bleed Cubbie Blue message board... "Wait until the Cardinals call up Rasmus..."

by urgeernieball on Aug 6, 2008 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

watch out for the cheetah

.....dude, forget about the cheetah

by cardsfaninmass on Aug 6, 2008 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL!

hopefully NPH doesn’t steal my car

As seen on Bleed Cubbie Blue message board... "Wait until the Cardinals call up Rasmus..."

by urgeernieball on Aug 6, 2008 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

C'mon.

Insult to injury there, eh?

by Egyptian on Aug 6, 2008 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he'll be OK & able to play again

i’m hopeful he gets his strenght back & gets back to mashing HRs

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 6, 2008 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and running threw walls

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 6, 2008 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exhale

Still tied

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 6, 2008 12:17 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

nice running catch Bombs

Frank owes you a drink

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 6, 2008 12:17 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

joey glove!

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Aug 6, 2008 12:17 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Aaaaalright...

...let’s end this, Yadi.

by vexedtechie on Aug 6, 2008 12:17 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

really for all their faults

they are still a very entertaining and likeable team.

They dont quit either, they just arnt very talented in the pen

www.GriffinandtheGargoyles.com
www.myspace.com/GriffinandtheGargoyles

Dont take me seriously :-D

by jealousblues on Aug 6, 2008 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's what she said

Testicle-exploding shit storm, circa 7/12/08 - We will never forget!

by bjork24 on Aug 6, 2008 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just realized thats 2 days in a row

if we could just get a clutch hit in the 9th we would have won both games walk-off style.

Milt Thompson FTW!

by gossard56 on Aug 6, 2008 12:18 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

with the bottom of the order coming up

we probably have to ulcer our way through at least one more inning

by vances law on Aug 6, 2008 12:18 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

so did frank

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Aug 6, 2008 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

but mine was more of a brick

by BirdsonFire on Aug 6, 2008 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Watch yadi's reaction

watch the replay of Looney’s trickler down the line in the 9th inning. Yadi’s reaction says it all.

Milt Thompson FTW!

by gossard56 on Aug 6, 2008 12:19 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

how to fix the pen -hopefully

let McCellan close for now.
DL Izzy and Franklin with some made up malady.
Call up Motte and Perez and let them work the latter innings along with Russ Springer.
Use only Villone as a one out lefty.

This ain’t that hard. If it doesn’t work, then at least you tried something with kids who are hungry. Not languishing vets.

Amaury translates into "Punisher of Spheroids" in the lost tongue of Atlantis. Marti means "Belgian Waffle." www.futureredbirds.net

by erik on Aug 6, 2008 12:19 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

ummm...

have you met our manager and pitching coach…they are named tony larussa and dave duncan

by cardsfaninmass on Aug 6, 2008 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep. Simple.

But, you don’t have LaRussa’ s genius. You don’t understand that simplicity is complexity and complexity is simplicity.

by Egyptian on Aug 6, 2008 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

easier said than done

but i agree with every thing you say

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 6, 2008 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

is it worth it

if those young guys aren’t ready for the major yet though? not saying its a bad idea just curious on your thoughts about that

by 916baller on Aug 6, 2008 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

their #'s say they are ready

how could they be worse?

Amaury translates into "Punisher of Spheroids" in the lost tongue of Atlantis. Marti means "Belgian Waffle." www.futureredbirds.net

by erik on Aug 6, 2008 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The only question is Motte.

Perez is ready. K-Mac is ready to close.

by Egyptian on Aug 6, 2008 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is part heat-of-the-moment anger, and part of all season,

but when does Tony get fired?

You do NOT put a guy in to blow games over and over and over and over and over just to get a stupid statistic. How many games would we have won if we didn’t have Izzy chasing a big round number?

by craig3410 on Aug 6, 2008 12:20 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

does 27 blown saves

answer the question?

Yadi swings and hits a high fly ball... Endy Chavez goes back, to the track, to the wall... ITS A GUNNER!! Yadi gives St. Louis the lead in the top of the ninth!

by Paulspike on Aug 6, 2008 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Miles seems like a waste

Iz2 is not driving a guy in from 1st.

by TheBirds on Aug 6, 2008 12:21 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

does anyone else think

the guys in the booth are just disgusted

www.GriffinandtheGargoyles.com
www.myspace.com/GriffinandtheGargoyles

Dont take me seriously :-D

by jealousblues on Aug 6, 2008 12:21 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

sound more shell shocked than anything

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Aug 6, 2008 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i think it was dan

was POed about the pen

then made a sarcastic comment about Mather only being 160 feet shy on that one

i was like, “ouch”

www.GriffinandtheGargoyles.com
www.myspace.com/GriffinandtheGargoyles

Dont take me seriously :-D

by jealousblues on Aug 6, 2008 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shannon and Rooney

sound busted and disgusted.

And yes, I coined that phrase busted and disgusted when I lived in Canada. We did a lot of crazy stuff. In Canada.

Amaury translates into "Punisher of Spheroids" in the lost tongue of Atlantis. Marti means "Belgian Waffle." www.futureredbirds.net

by erik on Aug 6, 2008 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Best possible out come of this mess tonight

Mather hits one out in in a minute and we get the win. And we wake up tomorrow to find out McClellan is the new closer. I don’t mind sitting through this shit if it means Izzy is OUT!

Milt Thompson FTW!

by gossard56 on Aug 6, 2008 12:22 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Izzy? Out?

but it’d make him sad to not get 300!

by craig3410 on Aug 6, 2008 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

we don’t want to see izzy cry now do we? lol

Cardwash - Cardinal, Washington fan (Washington???? Yeah, I know)

by cardwash on Aug 6, 2008 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and more grit

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Aug 6, 2008 12:23 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Mini Me

is pure grit

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 6, 2008 12:23 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Do you think that Carp is still watching this one?

When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom

by ANDYAK47 on Aug 6, 2008 12:23 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think I saw a shot of the dugout

and you could see Carp vomiting in the corner

Testicle-exploding shit storm, circa 7/12/08 - We will never forget!

by bjork24 on Aug 6, 2008 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he's getting drunk with shannon

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Aug 6, 2008 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

there you go aaron

this lil guy has really done well this year

www.GriffinandtheGargoyles.com
www.myspace.com/GriffinandtheGargoyles

Dont take me seriously :-D

by jealousblues on Aug 6, 2008 12:23 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The green light for Glaus

on 3/0 tells me there will be change. Only because its now a public relations disaster. Everyone is culpable. It would be better for the team if they lost, just to expose the farce further. The sad thing is they’re going to make Garcia the fall guy.

Westcoastbirdwatcher

by westcoastbirdwatcher on Aug 6, 2008 12:23 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Garcia??

Milt Thompson FTW!

by gossard56 on Aug 6, 2008 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Garcia will pitch

until the game is over…

by Yellow Dog on Aug 6, 2008 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't understand how Glaus swinging on 3-0 is a public relations disaster. Explain?

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 6, 2008 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LaRusa had to call it.

The was a terrible baseball move. Terrible signal to team and Yadi. Tony showing desperation. Everyone looks bad, especially the “Stand Pater’s”. If you think Glaus is a situation bat, you join them.

Westcoastbirdwatcher

by westcoastbirdwatcher on Aug 6, 2008 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Glaus swinging 3/0 was

obviously the Bush administration’s fault

by saladdays on Aug 6, 2008 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

someones gotta say it

Glaus doesnt give a damn about black people

www.GriffinandtheGargoyles.com
www.myspace.com/GriffinandtheGargoyles

Dont take me seriously :-D

by jealousblues on Aug 6, 2008 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yay Miles, a slow singles hitter.

least productive .317 hitter ever?

by TheBirds on Aug 6, 2008 12:23 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I just don't get the miles bashing

anyone who watches the games can see how important he is

by cardsfaninmass on Aug 6, 2008 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he's reasonably important

better than a productive .250 singles hitter

by TheBirds on Aug 6, 2008 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That may be so

But I would rather see him up in the late innings than most of the guys on our roster.

by tangledbrett on Aug 6, 2008 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Screw this.

For a recommendation of what to do instead of taking years off your life by watching this bullpen, try MLB Power Pros 08.

by craig3410 on Aug 6, 2008 12:24 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

loved the rpg mode in last year’s ps2 release – looking forward to picking up the new one for the nintendo ds very soon!

FIP > ERA, OBP > AVG

by astrostl on Aug 6, 2008 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, it's better than last year.

You’ve basically got a sucess mode for your whole major-league career.

by craig3410 on Aug 6, 2008 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i read about it. looks great!

FIP > ERA, OBP > AVG

by astrostl on Aug 6, 2008 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe Iz2 can walk on 4 pitchouts ;-)

40th anniversary of Gibson's 1.12 ERA, Think he could pitch in the bullpen now?

by Podlol on Aug 6, 2008 12:24 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You know, Grit should be our closer

When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom

by ANDYAK47 on Aug 6, 2008 12:25 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

hail Caesar!

and Miles to 3rd

www.GriffinandtheGargoyles.com
www.myspace.com/GriffinandtheGargoyles

Dont take me seriously :-D

by jealousblues on Aug 6, 2008 12:25 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

move those little legs!!!!!

As seen on Bleed Cubbie Blue message board... "Wait until the Cardinals call up Rasmus..."

by urgeernieball on Aug 6, 2008 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

anywhere we can see who cleared waivers?

I’d take Jarrod Washburn as a closer at this point.

by craig3410 on Aug 6, 2008 12:26 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

thank you jeff kent

alright SKIPPY, time for some more magic

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 6, 2008 12:26 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

C'mon Skip

Do your walkoff thing

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 6, 2008 12:26 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

please!

Yadi swings and hits a high fly ball... Endy Chavez goes back, to the track, to the wall... ITS A GUNNER!! Yadi gives St. Louis the lead in the top of the ninth!

by Paulspike on Aug 6, 2008 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

passed ball please

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Aug 6, 2008 12:26 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Passed ball, wild pitch, I'll take anything

40th anniversary of Gibson's 1.12 ERA, Think he could pitch in the bullpen now?

by Podlol on Aug 6, 2008 12:26 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

bad exchange rate on the peso for skip

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Aug 6, 2008 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Will the team even celebrate if we win?

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 6, 2008 12:26 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

wow...here we are again

a single wins it. third times a charm?

Milt Thompson FTW!

by gossard56 on Aug 6, 2008 12:27 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

damn :'(

FIP > ERA, OBP > AVG

by astrostl on Aug 6, 2008 12:27 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Walk Skip to pitch to Kennedy?

Torre had to think about it at least for a second.

by Egyptian on Aug 6, 2008 12:27 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Crap, Sasme old same old

40th anniversary of Gibson's 1.12 ERA, Think he could pitch in the bullpen now?

by Podlol on Aug 6, 2008 12:27 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

hey, side question

what would gameday look like if a bird flew in and got nailed by the ball ala randy johnson?

by BirdsonFire on Aug 6, 2008 12:27 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yes,

but would there be a bird track, like there is a ball track?

by BirdsonFire on Aug 6, 2008 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, it's part of the ball track data

But Josh Kalk has an algorithm that handles it.

by random on Aug 6, 2008 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

Is very bad to steal A-Pu's rum...is very bad.

by Power Slurve on Aug 6, 2008 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

that would throw ppl off…

Yadi swings and hits a high fly ball... Endy Chavez goes back, to the track, to the wall... ITS A GUNNER!! Yadi gives St. Louis the lead in the top of the ninth!

by Paulspike on Aug 6, 2008 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

register it as "no pitch"

seriously

Life's a river, kid, you gotta go where it takes you.

by KerouacCardinal on Aug 6, 2008 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Vertical break: -50 degrees

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Aug 6, 2008 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, if Garcia can get us through one more

I like our chances with Pujols and Ludwick coming up.

by Egyptian on Aug 6, 2008 12:28 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

SO MANY CHANCES

this is getting really old….can someone get a hit when it counts!

Milt Thompson FTW!

by gossard56 on Aug 6, 2008 12:28 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Going to bed, not gonna be groggy all day tomorrow because of Izzy

Go Cards, surprise me while I dream of an effective bullpen

by riotmute on Aug 6, 2008 12:28 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

good night

hope your dreams come true…

Yadi swings and hits a high fly ball... Endy Chavez goes back, to the track, to the wall... ITS A GUNNER!! Yadi gives St. Louis the lead in the top of the ninth!

by Paulspike on Aug 6, 2008 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

dont forget to make sure he can hit as well as he can field

oh & a 2nd baseman with the same skillz

sweet dreams

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 6, 2008 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

well

if the team wins and comes out to celebrate the win, i bet you izzy will NOT be on the field to celebrate.

Cardwash - Cardinal, Washington fan (Washington???? Yeah, I know)

by cardwash on Aug 6, 2008 12:28 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Why is Garcia in?

I was expecting miles. I want my money back.

by madeintaiwan on Aug 6, 2008 12:28 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Jaime

is a very shiny man

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 6, 2008 12:30 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It looks like someone rubbed him down with oil.

Hope not. If he is thrown out of the game, Miles will have to pitch.

by Egyptian on Aug 6, 2008 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

saddly ive missed every game (or inning for games ive seen)

where Miles pitched

it makes me a sad panda

Chris got an out!

www.GriffinandtheGargoyles.com
www.myspace.com/GriffinandtheGargoyles

Dont take me seriously :-D

by jealousblues on Aug 6, 2008 12:30 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i saw miles pitch in person

at RFK. it made me a happy panda

Life's a river, kid, you gotta go where it takes you.

by KerouacCardinal on Aug 6, 2008 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How about lee smith? how quickly can he get in shape?

If farve can unretire, couldn’t we bring back big lee to help the bullpen?

40th anniversary of Gibson's 1.12 ERA, Think he could pitch in the bullpen now?

by Podlol on Aug 6, 2008 12:30 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Izzy's hitting 95

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Aug 6, 2008 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's not the speed it's the (lack of) motion

that makes all of Izzys pitches look like watermelons coming to the plate

40th anniversary of Gibson's 1.12 ERA, Think he could pitch in the bullpen now?

by Podlol on Aug 6, 2008 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

which is weird

because it looked like he had decent motion against the fist couple of batters, and then it collapesed. Izzy’s problems are mental. I dont’ know what’s going on

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Aug 6, 2008 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

"no glaring holes" - Mo

Put that in your bullpen and blow it.

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Aug 6, 2008 12:30 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Torre is a good manager

How did he get so great after leaving St. Louis?

The time has come for someone to put his foot down and that foot is me

by heathen on Aug 6, 2008 12:30 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

A $200M Payroll Would Make A Lot Of Guys

Managing in the majors look like a genius.

by tommyguniii on Aug 6, 2008 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

because he joined the yankees

at the right time hank steinbrenner decided to throw as much money as he wanted to buy up all the talent in the 90s.

Cardwash - Cardinal, Washington fan (Washington???? Yeah, I know)

by cardwash on Aug 6, 2008 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

george*

Cardwash - Cardinal, Washington fan (Washington???? Yeah, I know)

by cardwash on Aug 6, 2008 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually he joined a dynasty built by Stick Mitchell

That team was built when Steinbrenner’s worthless carcass was banned from the game. And they haven’t won since that core started to fracture.

Is very bad to steal A-Pu's rum...is very bad.

by Power Slurve on Aug 6, 2008 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm still just flabberghasted (sp?) at the 9th inning

Our pitches gave up 4 singles and 1 walk in the first 8 innings. The Dodgers aren’t a great-hitting team. It’s so frustrating!

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 6, 2008 12:30 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

ask russ

he ate the whole bucket

by cardsfaninmass on Aug 6, 2008 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

with out bullpen?

extra crispy

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 6, 2008 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

out = our

i was watching the play Iz2 made while typing

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 6, 2008 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fried chicken sounds absolutely delicious right now

Of course, when doesn’t it?

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 6, 2008 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes it does

anyone know an all night chicken place in STL? ;-)

www.GriffinandtheGargoyles.com
www.myspace.com/GriffinandtheGargoyles

Dont take me seriously :-D

by jealousblues on Aug 6, 2008 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

just go to..

White Castle’s… they have those delicious chicken rings… mmmm

As seen on Bleed Cubbie Blue message board... "Wait until the Cardinals call up Rasmus..."

by urgeernieball on Aug 6, 2008 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

but the last two times

whiteys managed to ruin their delicious bergers

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www.myspace.com/GriffinandtheGargoyles

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by jealousblues on Aug 6, 2008 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

get the chicken rings!!!!!!!!!!

but not the flavored ones… yuck

As seen on Bleed Cubbie Blue message board... "Wait until the Cardinals call up Rasmus..."

by urgeernieball on Aug 6, 2008 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know what those are

But they couldn’t top a Popeye’s/Mrs. Winner’s/hell, even KFC leg & thigh

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 6, 2008 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, Charlie Chicken is gone

And the new king has not been found. The people still mourn.

by random on Aug 6, 2008 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

george likes his spicy chicken

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 6, 2008 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

what about the cooler cart

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Aug 6, 2008 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

After garcia, Springer, tehn Miles or Looper

40th anniversary of Gibson's 1.12 ERA, Think he could pitch in the bullpen now?

by Podlol on Aug 6, 2008 12:31 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

aaron kilometers?

by adiueordie on Aug 6, 2008 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

what's wrong with springer?

Life's a river, kid, you gotta go where it takes you.

by KerouacCardinal on Aug 6, 2008 12:31 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He's been used in three games straight going into the off day

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Aug 6, 2008 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wonder how many innings garcia could go?

40th anniversary of Gibson's 1.12 ERA, Think he could pitch in the bullpen now?

by Podlol on Aug 6, 2008 12:32 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Until the game is over

I think Garcia is in there until the game is over, for better or worse.

by Yellow Dog on Aug 6, 2008 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, he's a starter

He could go awhile theoretically

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 6, 2008 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So…can we vote Izzy off the island now? D.GOOCH (I could have swore we put out his tribal torch earlier in the year…)

-- GOOCH

by GOOCH24 on Aug 6, 2008 12:32 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Gooch!

Been a while. Hope you haven’t been hanging out w/ Cubs fans or otherwise getting in trouble.

by random on Aug 6, 2008 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks! No, just working on a dissertation. ;) D.GOOCH

-- GOOCH

by GOOCH24 on Aug 6, 2008 8:00 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

McClellan the 9th...

Franklin the 8th, Thompson the 7th and Piniero to long relief when Wainer comes back?

by coopdeville on Aug 6, 2008 12:33 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'd rather leave thompson where he is

and use Looper in the 9th or 8th

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Aug 6, 2008 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

with our roster?

yes. A decent setup guy is more important than a #5 starter

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Aug 6, 2008 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

I see your point, guess I feel like Franklin is okay for the 8th, though. Either way I can’t see Wainer in the pen unless his health can’t support 6 innings+

by coopdeville on Aug 6, 2008 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That second pitch to Wade

was way too good a pitch to waste throwing to a pitcher.

by StanTheManFan on Aug 6, 2008 12:33 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Izturis

can pick it. He is a huge improvement over Eck in the field. Just like the old days when shortstops had a good year when they hit .230 but could really field the position. He is this generation’s Dal Maxvill.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down and that foot is me

by heathen on Aug 6, 2008 12:33 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

we should make him GM

that’s not a knock on mo…i just find the image of cesar as GM humorous.

Life's a river, kid, you gotta go where it takes you.

by KerouacCardinal on Aug 6, 2008 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

heheh
He is this generation’s Dal Maxvill.

I thought that was Omar Vizquel…

by jdub176 on Aug 6, 2008 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nope

Omar is this generation’s Luis Aparicio. But still not as great as Ozzie.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down and that foot is me

by heathen on Aug 6, 2008 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was being sarcastic

But yeah, Vizquel’s not even close to Ozzie.

by jdub176 on Aug 6, 2008 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You've been calling for the beanball all night

Does the name Kirby Puckett mean anything to you?

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 6, 2008 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Give me a break

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 6, 2008 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

sorry

i don’t like kit kat bars

by BirdsonFire on Aug 6, 2008 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh

1. eyes were glaucoma
2. stroke from weight
3. lighten up francis

by BirdsonFire on Aug 6, 2008 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Send down Stavinoha, bring up Perez or Motte

Make McClellan the closer (he’s good against lefties and righties both). Put Perez or Motte in McClellan’s current role.

by CardsWin on Aug 6, 2008 12:34 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ludwick has been pressing in crucial at bats

needs to find relaxed focus in those situations, like Albert, and like Tiger Woods.

by CardsWin on Aug 6, 2008 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He hit it hard

In the 9th, but it was right at Blake.

by Yellow Dog on Aug 6, 2008 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

agreed.

nice play by blake to save a run

As seen on Bleed Cubbie Blue message board... "Wait until the Cardinals call up Rasmus..."

by urgeernieball on Aug 6, 2008 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i wish it always worked that way

Life's a river, kid, you gotta go where it takes you.

by KerouacCardinal on Aug 6, 2008 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

9 strikes, 5 balls

4 ball to the® pitcher

Rabid Redbird

by gthedamned on Aug 6, 2008 12:36 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Bullpen Goat de jure award definitely goes to Izzy tonight

40th anniversary of Gibson's 1.12 ERA, Think he could pitch in the bullpen now?

by Podlol on Aug 6, 2008 12:36 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If girardi was managing the cards here

he’d have pujols bunt over kennedy.

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Aug 6, 2008 12:38 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Guess wade must have more batting experience since torre let him hit

and then pulled him, or maybe he is taking lessons from TLR?

I can imagine them singing a duet:
“anything you can do i can do better”
“I can do anything better than you”

40th anniversary of Gibson's 1.12 ERA, Think he could pitch in the bullpen now?

by Podlol on Aug 6, 2008 12:38 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

they allowed the relief pitcher to hit,

then relieved him?

Life's a river, kid, you gotta go where it takes you.

by KerouacCardinal on Aug 6, 2008 12:38 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

unfortunately,

unfortunately, podlol said what i said earlier and better than i did.

Life's a river, kid, you gotta go where it takes you.

by KerouacCardinal on Aug 6, 2008 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks!

40th anniversary of Gibson's 1.12 ERA, Think he could pitch in the bullpen now?

by Podlol on Aug 6, 2008 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They have a backup catcher left

From his stats, doubt he would have done better.

by rencelas on Aug 6, 2008 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

alright

just got here and now we will win

gonna need more franklins to get through this one.

by hoofhearted-pujols on Aug 6, 2008 12:39 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

where were you when we needed you in the 9th?

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 6, 2008 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

work

sorry

gonna need more franklins to get through this one.

by hoofhearted-pujols on Aug 6, 2008 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

told you guys

gonna need more franklins to get through this one.

by hoofhearted-pujols on Aug 6, 2008 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

well done

never go to work again

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 6, 2008 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

WISH THAT WAS POSSIBLE!!

gonna need more franklins to get through this one.

by hoofhearted-pujols on Aug 6, 2008 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

just leave early

i’m sure you’re boss will understand when you tell him how important you are to your team

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 6, 2008 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I AM THE BOSS

THATS WHAT SUCKS!! IF I LEAVE EARLY THEY ALL WANT TO

gonna need more franklins to get through this one.

by hoofhearted-pujols on Aug 6, 2008 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Are you saying it sucks to be the boss?

Grrrrr

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 6, 2008 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

dude, if your the boss

you make the rules right?

well the rules say you leave early. if they dont like it, tough cookies

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 6, 2008 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

heres the game

www.GriffinandtheGargoyles.com
www.myspace.com/GriffinandtheGargoyles

Dont take me seriously :-D

by jealousblues on Aug 6, 2008 12:39 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Tough choice, IBB pujols and put winning run at second?

ir pitch to him?

40th anniversary of Gibson's 1.12 ERA, Think he could pitch in the bullpen now?

by Podlol on Aug 6, 2008 12:39 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

damn

that 0-2 pitch was very hittable

by cardsfaninmass on Aug 6, 2008 12:41 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

well

he hit it, just foul

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 6, 2008 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i cant watch...

another inning

Yadi swings and hits a high fly ball... Endy Chavez goes back, to the track, to the wall... ITS A GUNNER!! Yadi gives St. Louis the lead in the top of the ninth!

by Paulspike on Aug 6, 2008 12:41 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

well

that was uncharactoristic

www.GriffinandtheGargoyles.com
www.myspace.com/GriffinandtheGargoyles

Dont take me seriously :-D

by jealousblues on Aug 6, 2008 12:41 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Guys - wht happened? I just left and came back. The Izzyantor in the 9th?

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

HL Mencken

by akaitori on Aug 6, 2008 12:41 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

you guess

correct, sir.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 6, 2008 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep.

You pegged it.

by rencelas on Aug 6, 2008 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Valone gave up a HR

then Izzy came in and gave up 3 more

My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!

by 82Special on Aug 6, 2008 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

With an assist from Villone

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 6, 2008 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh Albert

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 6, 2008 12:41 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I know he was protecting 0-2

but he really seems to be pressing

by 1brdon on Aug 6, 2008 12:41 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

least it was not a DP

I guess with adn 0-2 he had to defend the plate?

40th anniversary of Gibson's 1.12 ERA, Think he could pitch in the bullpen now?

by Podlol on Aug 6, 2008 12:42 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

come on luddy make me pay

for my worst fbb trade since Papelbon in 2006

www.GriffinandtheGargoyles.com
www.myspace.com/GriffinandtheGargoyles

Dont take me seriously :-D

by jealousblues on Aug 6, 2008 12:42 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Benches are way too thin

Maybe the Union would give up the DH for a larger active roster? The game would be better for it.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down and that foot is me

by heathen on Aug 6, 2008 12:42 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

go go go go ggout

www.GriffinandtheGargoyles.com
www.myspace.com/GriffinandtheGargoyles

Dont take me seriously :-D

by jealousblues on Aug 6, 2008 12:43 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

sweet jesus!!!!!!!

As seen on Bleed Cubbie Blue message board... "Wait until the Cardinals call up Rasmus..."

by urgeernieball on Aug 6, 2008 12:43 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

AND THAT'S A WALK OFF WINNER!!!!

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 6, 2008 12:43 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

woot

woot

Cardwash - Cardinal, Washington fan (Washington???? Yeah, I know)

by cardwash on Aug 6, 2008 12:44 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

MVP! MVP!

No offense Albert

by DiscoJer on Aug 6, 2008 12:44 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

YES!

Life's a river, kid, you gotta go where it takes you.

by KerouacCardinal on Aug 6, 2008 12:44 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

FINALLY!!

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by Bahamaredbird on Aug 6, 2008 12:44 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

what a stud.

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Aug 6, 2008 12:44 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

its...

STUDWICK!!

Yadi swings and hits a high fly ball... Endy Chavez goes back, to the track, to the wall... ITS A GUNNER!! Yadi gives St. Louis the lead in the top of the ninth!

by Paulspike on Aug 6, 2008 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bean the chicken

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 6, 2008 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i like beans

black, pinto, kidney….

by BirdsonFire on Aug 6, 2008 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mmmm pinto beans

This whole thread is making me really hungry but I don’t have near enough money to go out and buy something, and I don’t have the energy to cook

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 6, 2008 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that was unnecessary

since we could have won this game three times by now

by barry whiteteeth on Aug 6, 2008 12:44 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

THUDWICK

Amaury translates into "Punisher of Spheroids" in the lost tongue of Atlantis. Marti means "Belgian Waffle." www.futureredbirds.net

by erik on Aug 6, 2008 12:44 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hooray, now I can go to sleep, goodnight all!

40th anniversary of Gibson's 1.12 ERA, Think he could pitch in the bullpen now?

by Podlol on Aug 6, 2008 12:44 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

ball Game

Please for the sake of god Kyle gets the closer job tomorrow, stav goes down and we get perez back

New Member of the Skip Schumaker Fan Club

by cyko42 on Aug 6, 2008 12:44 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

THATS WHY I LOVE

LUDDY!!!!!!

Yadi swings and hits a high fly ball... Endy Chavez goes back, to the track, to the wall... ITS A GUNNER!! Yadi gives St. Louis the lead in the top of the ninth!

by Paulspike on Aug 6, 2008 12:44 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

LUDDY@!

I am soo glad I didnt go to bed!

MVP!

yeah baby!

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Aug 6, 2008 12:44 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i've had to use the restroom since the 8th inning...

thank you ryan…

As seen on Bleed Cubbie Blue message board... "Wait until the Cardinals call up Rasmus..."

by urgeernieball on Aug 6, 2008 12:44 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

they do have comercials

;-)

www.GriffinandtheGargoyles.com
www.myspace.com/GriffinandtheGargoyles

Dont take me seriously :-D

by jealousblues on Aug 6, 2008 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

not enough time...

As seen on Bleed Cubbie Blue message board... "Wait until the Cardinals call up Rasmus..."

by urgeernieball on Aug 6, 2008 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh, THAT kind of bathroom

just turn the volume up really loud

www.GriffinandtheGargoyles.com
www.myspace.com/GriffinandtheGargoyles

Dont take me seriously :-D

by jealousblues on Aug 6, 2008 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL!

can’t… roommates asleep….

As seen on Bleed Cubbie Blue message board... "Wait until the Cardinals call up Rasmus..."

by urgeernieball on Aug 6, 2008 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't even know if I'm happy, just relieved

Kennedy had a nice night tonight, btw

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 6, 2008 12:44 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I feel the same way

like pissed off that it had to be the hard

by cardsfaninmass on Aug 6, 2008 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

today is my birthday

a Cardinal walk off is JUST what I was hoping for!! ;-)

When cheese gets its picture taken, what does it say?

by RosevilleRedbird on Aug 6, 2008 12:45 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

it's also my sister's birthday

are you my sister?

My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!

by 82Special on Aug 6, 2008 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Happy Birthday.

For your birthday, though, could you ask for a new closer? Preferably one by the name of Kyle?

by Egyptian on Aug 6, 2008 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

studwick

thank you, masked man!

FIP > ERA, OBP > AVG

by astrostl on Aug 6, 2008 12:45 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

*untucks shirt*

well that was awesome…

maybe we can start a streak off a dat

www.GriffinandtheGargoyles.com
www.myspace.com/GriffinandtheGargoyles

Dont take me seriously :-D

by jealousblues on Aug 6, 2008 12:45 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What an emotional roller coaster

This team might end up being the death of me

by 1brdon on Aug 6, 2008 12:45 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

They have their frustrating moments

but this team really is so fun to watch, in the end. Hold on, boys

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Aug 6, 2008 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

it appears

it appears that my pre-emptive beer did the trick

Life's a river, kid, you gotta go where it takes you.

by KerouacCardinal on Aug 6, 2008 12:45 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think my 3 franklins

and some whiskey helped.

by rencelas on Aug 6, 2008 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

typically

there isn’t for me…but i only had one franklin in the fridge. thus, i had to conserve. but i got so exasperated that i needed to crack it oopen.

Life's a river, kid, you gotta go where it takes you.

by KerouacCardinal on Aug 6, 2008 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

luddites rejoice

again

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Aug 6, 2008 12:46 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

To: Ryan Ludwick From: Izzy

1 – 62 inch hi-def tv
1 – wii
1 – $50 gas card
1 – fruit basket

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Aug 6, 2008 12:46 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

is he buying him 10 1/2 gallons only?

Life's a river, kid, you gotta go where it takes you.

by KerouacCardinal on Aug 6, 2008 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

1 case of the beer of your choice + a 10 oz. Filet Mignon + a Maine lobster

You know he can afford it

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 6, 2008 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and yet

izzy gets a ‘hold’ right?
frank gets the BS

by vances law on Aug 6, 2008 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

weren't all the runners charged to izzy?

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Aug 6, 2008 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Plus locker space

that he cleaned out, maybe?

by StanTheManFan on Aug 6, 2008 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

forgot

Guitar Hero 3 and Rockband

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Aug 6, 2008 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's my boy...

"..and that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana shaped." -Sir Belvedere

by SleepyCA on Aug 6, 2008 12:46 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Dont those walkoff wins just make everything worth it

bring up perez, do not put Wainwright in the closer’s role and paint the town in badger’s blood

When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom

by ANDYAK47 on Aug 6, 2008 12:47 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

badger's blood?

i’m sorry if that’s an easy reference…but you’re going to have to explain.

Life's a river, kid, you gotta go where it takes you.

by KerouacCardinal on Aug 6, 2008 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

badgers?

badgers?

we don’t need no stinkin’ badgers

by BirdsonFire on Aug 6, 2008 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

these kind of badgers?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOxR7rTYuSI

As seen on Bleed Cubbie Blue message board... "Wait until the Cardinals call up Rasmus..."

by urgeernieball on Aug 6, 2008 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ROFLMAO!

nice… i didn’t even see it coming

As seen on Bleed Cubbie Blue message board... "Wait until the Cardinals call up Rasmus..."

by urgeernieball on Aug 6, 2008 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

once

twice

three times a rick

by BirdsonFire on Aug 6, 2008 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

actually it is just what my friend always says when I ask him what he wants to do tonight

He says “lets paint the town in badgers blood”

When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom

by ANDYAK47 on Aug 6, 2008 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i prefer

the streets will flow with the blood of the non-believers

by BirdsonFire on Aug 6, 2008 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I AM THE GREAT CORNHOLLIO!

ARE YOU THREATENING ME?

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 6, 2008 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

we signed

felipe lopez??

Yadi swings and hits a high fly ball... Endy Chavez goes back, to the track, to the wall... ITS A GUNNER!! Yadi gives St. Louis the lead in the top of the ninth!

by Paulspike on Aug 6, 2008 12:47 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Iz2.

Got to expect him to get most of the time at short with Miles at second.

by Egyptian on Aug 6, 2008 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he's not an upgrade over Izturis or Ryan

because he’ll let another 10% of balls hit to SS go through. If they want offense at SS just play Miles there. It’s literally the same thing.

by azruavatar on Aug 6, 2008 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

if we're down, though

we can throw Lopez in to the game, and if we’re up, we can put Izturis there. This allows for late inning adjustments

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Aug 6, 2008 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If they keep Miles on the bench, they can do the same thing

or they can move him over to SS and bring in kennedy. There’s absolutely no upgrade here that I can see.

by azruavatar on Aug 6, 2008 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

but that's not as much offense as leaving miles at 2b and bringing in lopez

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Aug 6, 2008 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Really?

Because Miles + Kennedy looks exactly the same as Miles + Lopez to me. Lopez was hitting just .234 /.302/.314 and really hasn’t been good since 2005.

by azruavatar on Aug 6, 2008 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, expecting him to revert to his 2005 levels

seems pretty unrealistic. I know RFK can be murder but that excuse was taken away this year.

Amaury translates into "Punisher of Spheroids" in the lost tongue of Atlantis. Marti means "Belgian Waffle." www.futureredbirds.net

by erik on Aug 6, 2008 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

In Lopez's defense

I think his road OPS is around .730 this year, which is (sigh) and upgrade over Izturis. Not saying he’ll duplicate those numbers in Busch, but still

by jdub176 on Aug 6, 2008 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

"and upgrade" = "an upgrade"

But as was mentioned above, you might as well put Miles at short.

by jdub176 on Aug 6, 2008 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

Pretty rapid decline since 2005

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 6, 2008 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lopez has better splits vs. RHP, but so does Kennedy

And Lopez at SS provides only marginally more offense than Izturis and Ryan. This signing makes no sense. Miles is probably a better alternative than Lopez at both 2B and SS. Strange….

This must mean Ryan goes to AAA.

by CardsWin on Aug 6, 2008 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

.350 OBP, .776 SLG the last three years vs. LHP

Actually Lopez has been better vs. LHP than RHP the last three years, combined. Maybe the Cards plan to put him into a platoon with Miles/Kennedy at 2B.

by CardsWin on Aug 6, 2008 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oops. Make that vs. RHP.

This just makes no sense, unless it’s a hail Mary move, in hopes that Lopez will find his power in St. Louis….

by CardsWin on Aug 6, 2008 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow, I didn't know he declined THAT much

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Aug 6, 2008 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

azru, you're exaggerating!

because he’ll kick about half of the 10% as they go by. (I think he was last in the league in fielding pct. a few years ago, which doesn’t much help below average range numbers.)

As for his bat, I think he’s like Izturis in that he had one good year about four or five years ago.

by random on Aug 6, 2008 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

At least the bench player won't be a crappier clone of the starter

it’ll be an equally bad player with a different skillset. I can live with that

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Aug 6, 2008 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is like when we signed Jose Vizcaino in '06

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 6, 2008 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My only memory of Vizcaino from '06

is the World Series celebration. He was very enthusiastic. And I wondered “what the hell is Vizcaino jumping around for?”

by jdub176 on Aug 6, 2008 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha

I totally forgot he was on the team.

by effin fisk on Aug 6, 2008 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I loved Vizcaino

He was a monster for us. He hit 348/375/609 and yes that is slg. I know it was only 23 AB but those 23 ab might have some how won us one game which helped get us in the playoffs which we won. So Vizcaino should be happy b/c he helped us win world series.

Yadi is my hero

by Big Phil on Aug 6, 2008 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Our weak MIF was 6 for 12 (.500)

The rest 9 for 34, (.265)

40th anniversary of Gibson's 1.12 ERA, Think he could pitch in the bullpen now?

by Podlol on Aug 6, 2008 12:47 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Do the Cards give Izzy a blanket party tonight?

Is very bad to steal A-Pu's rum...is very bad.

by Power Slurve on Aug 6, 2008 12:47 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

led by

kiefer sutherland

Life's a river, kid, you gotta go where it takes you.

by KerouacCardinal on Aug 6, 2008 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hopefully its the best of both worlds

we still won the game and Izzy was so bad that McClellan becomes the closer.

Milt Thompson FTW!

by gossard56 on Aug 6, 2008 12:48 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Can't wait to hear larussa

tap dance about the bullpen…nothing to deflect the attention to

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Aug 6, 2008 12:48 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

OK x 10

OK, good + Carp’s (part way) back, Waino on the mend and MVPwick comes through. Not at all bad!

City to Izzy – going away song – “Memphis in June” – Nina Simone

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

HL Mencken

by akaitori on Aug 6, 2008 12:48 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I was thinking "Taps" might be more appropriate for Izzy's career

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 6, 2008 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Motte or Perez de facto cannot be worse than Izzy. What's to lose by giving some experince to either P or M?

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

HL Mencken

by akaitori on Aug 6, 2008 12:50 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

TLR loses a buttbuddy

that’s about it.

Sorry, being negative is how I cope.

by TheBirds on Aug 6, 2008 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

whatever

you can be negative without putting down gay people

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Aug 6, 2008 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that is funny

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Aug 6, 2008 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

meaning valatans

comment

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Aug 6, 2008 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd say gay people have had harsher treatment in the past

than me insinuating that gay buttsex is the only thing keeping Izzy on the team. But w/e.

by TheBirds on Aug 6, 2008 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just keep digging that hole man

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 6, 2008 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's his hole

let him dig himself out of it.

My fellow Americans. As a young boy, I dreamed of being a baseball, but tonight I say, we must move forward, not backward, upward not forward, and always twirling, twirling, twirling towards freedom.

by Alxfritz on Aug 6, 2008 1:54 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Blacked out here.

How did Carp look? (Surprised he was lifted with a 51-pitch count, according to sportsline.)

by Youneverknow on Aug 6, 2008 12:52 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He was awesome

Lifted because of a rain delay

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 6, 2008 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

rain delay

www.GriffinandtheGargoyles.com
www.myspace.com/GriffinandtheGargoyles

Dont take me seriously :-D

by jealousblues on Aug 6, 2008 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

good

way better command….lots of fly outs and ground balls..few hard hit

by cardsfaninmass on Aug 6, 2008 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

z

at least tony seems relaxed…

so far

www.GriffinandtheGargoyles.com
www.myspace.com/GriffinandtheGargoyles

Dont take me seriously :-D

by jealousblues on Aug 6, 2008 12:53 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

the Cat is good at making people laugh

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 6, 2008 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i put it on pause while I was making food.

he was just joking around before the questions were asked.

talked about Carp being pulled because the rain

ryan being sent down and coming up in sept

talked about Izzy a bit, how he (izzy) is dissapoined

still watching

Lopez will be here tom

www.GriffinandtheGargoyles.com
www.myspace.com/GriffinandtheGargoyles

Dont take me seriously :-D

by jealousblues on Aug 6, 2008 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the Cat or Tony?

because if your asking what the Cat said, i couldnt hear all of it. but him & Tony have a joke going about the Cat getting Tony an after game drink before the post game press conference. and thats what got Tony laughing.

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 6, 2008 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

if i was a press member i'd do a compliment sandwich right here

Great start by carp….....your bullpen sucks..andwhatawalkoffbyludwick!

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Aug 6, 2008 12:53 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

All we need to make this thread complete is a TOLAXOR sighting

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 6, 2008 12:53 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

TOLAXOR

I WAS THINKING THE SAME THING

by effin fisk on Aug 6, 2008 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

whats TOLAXOR

www.GriffinandtheGargoyles.com
www.myspace.com/GriffinandtheGargoyles

Dont take me seriously :-D

by jealousblues on Aug 6, 2008 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The best VEB user of ALL TIME

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 6, 2008 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the anti lboros

New Member of the Skip Schumaker Fan Club

by cyko42 on Aug 6, 2008 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

does that mean he types in ALL CAPS?

"I have CDO. It's like OCD, but the letters are in alphabetical order. Like they should be."

by BigMOman on Aug 6, 2008 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Aug 6, 2008 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

...

TOLAXOR

"..and that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana shaped." -Sir Belvedere

by SleepyCA on Aug 6, 2008 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Stats from this game

Interestingly enough, Izzy got a hold for that…

...and Franklin a blown save.

I think Franklin pitched OK – gave up a run on a sac fly with the bases loaded and 1 out. That’s not a terrible outcome. Izzy, on the other hand…

by rencelas on Aug 6, 2008 12:54 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I love hate the hold statistic

izzy has doen this a few times this yr blown one and got a hold..i think he should get a BS, regardless of win/loss and no hold..you didnt hold anything u blew it up

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Aug 6, 2008 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

Life's a river, kid, you gotta go where it takes you.

by KerouacCardinal on Aug 6, 2008 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

"i tell you what, no one feels worse than IZZY"

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 6, 2008 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Scotte Eyre anyone?

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Aug 6, 2008 12:57 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

aren't 2 former cubs enough?

As seen on Bleed Cubbie Blue message board... "Wait until the Cardinals call up Rasmus..."

by urgeernieball on Aug 6, 2008 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

who was the fuy with dan tonight?

I have never heard a home guy(non National game) where they say that they have to call up reinforcements tom. repeatedly.

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Aug 6, 2008 12:58 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

ricky horton

personally, I love him….not afraid to be critical

by cardsfaninmass on Aug 6, 2008 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

from what i can tell Tony said

Boog’s going back to Memphis & Lopez is taking his spot

no one really asked him anything. they just lobbed their typical soft balls at him

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 6, 2008 12:58 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

from the nationals

the 2b

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Aug 6, 2008 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, they figures dave duncan can fix anything...

apparently lopez has been tipping his hitting

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Aug 6, 2008 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

appearently he was telling them where he was going to hit it in advance, ala the Babe

www.GriffinandtheGargoyles.com
www.myspace.com/GriffinandtheGargoyles

Dont take me seriously :-D

by jealousblues on Aug 6, 2008 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Felipe Lopez

the guy you used as an example of a bad player being DFA’d

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 6, 2008 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i dont get this move

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Aug 6, 2008 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is really not the move I had in mind

when I said this team needed a “spark”.

by KYCards on Aug 6, 2008 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

so they did sign lopez?

another light hitting MIF?

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Aug 6, 2008 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes

he’ll be in uniform for tomorrow’s game. Ryan to Memphis.

by azruavatar on Aug 6, 2008 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That was effing lame

TLR didn’t get mad once in that interview. Booo that.

Stay classy VEB.

by azruavatar on Aug 6, 2008 12:59 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Maybe Izzy can clobber a TV again. Surely he must be getting the picture by now

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

HL Mencken

by akaitori on Aug 6, 2008 1:00 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ok, didn't know about Lopez

but they will need a closer tomorrow and they will need help in the pen.

They will have to call up Perez now.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Aug 6, 2008 1:01 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

it's a matter of time before they

sign Garcia and eyre

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Aug 6, 2008 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lopez is part one of my deadline predeiction

that they would be mentioned in all th enames stand pat and go after garbage…then sign garcia..they were with a bunch of teams that scouted him today

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Aug 6, 2008 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Freddy

the rocks twin

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Aug 6, 2008 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Was that the biggest

9th-inning lead Cards have blown this season?

They are starting to run together in my mind.

by Youneverknow on Aug 6, 2008 1:04 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

TESS

Rick Ankiel could throw out Chuck Norris. Easy.

by emrfg8 on Aug 6, 2008 2:07 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the pirates, we are up 10 to 6 and Izzy gives up the three run bomb to Mclouth

Michaels hits a walkoff two run bomb in the tenth while we are up 1

When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom

by ANDYAK47 on Aug 6, 2008 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

God, of course

Now my stomach really hurts.

What a season. What a bullpen.

by Youneverknow on Aug 6, 2008 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seriously though guys

I think the time has come to stop sending Izzy or Franklin out in the ninth to save the game! Lets try Kmac or Jaime or Thompson or Miles or Albert or Hell even Kelvim Jimenez or Mike Parisi. You literally cannot be worse than those two have been. Stop the insanity. Stop it now. no, do not talk just stop it

When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom

by ANDYAK47 on Aug 6, 2008 1:04 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

if we had sent franklin out

after the AJ bomb, all would have been well and Luddy wouldn’t have gotten all smacked around.

"..and that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana shaped." -Sir Belvedere

by SleepyCA on Aug 6, 2008 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And Larue

And Izzy
And Kennedy

by Yellow Dog on Aug 6, 2008 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

didn he

at least have some speed?

www.GriffinandtheGargoyles.com
www.myspace.com/GriffinandtheGargoyles

Dont take me seriously :-D

by jealousblues on Aug 6, 2008 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We need to find a league

that plays 6-inning games.

by Youneverknow on Aug 6, 2008 1:09 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The LLWS is starting up pretty soon

I’m fairly confident we could own that

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 6, 2008 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

dunno

with the way izzy is goign right now

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Aug 6, 2008 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe Izzy can rehab his arm in a Tball league

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

HL Mencken

by akaitori on Aug 6, 2008 1:12 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

+1

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by Bahamaredbird on Aug 6, 2008 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well played sir

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 6, 2008 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep and I guess Mo answers our calls in your thread to pick us up a "spark"

Oh can you feel it…..this one has Will Clark and Larry Walker written all over it. Uugh!

by KYCards on Aug 6, 2008 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

well

there is no collusion deal for Lopez

www.GriffinandtheGargoyles.com
www.myspace.com/GriffinandtheGargoyles

Dont take me seriously :-D

by jealousblues on Aug 6, 2008 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

if i were him, i'd be screaming that from the mountain tops

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 6, 2008 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, because Bonds would solve all of our problems...

Last time I checked, the outfielders ain’t the problem.

by musial6 on Aug 6, 2008 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No

but scoring runs certainly is. And Skip can’t hit LHP.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Aug 6, 2008 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Last I checked...which was tonight...

our problem has been closing out games. Give us a closer for the whole season and we’d be in first more than likely

"Ding-dong the wicked witch is dead!" - Wayne Hagin after the cardinals snapped a losing streak

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Aug 6, 2008 2:09 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I guess the solution is to just go into the 9th with a 6 run lead every night?

very realistic

"Ding-dong the wicked witch is dead!" - Wayne Hagin after the cardinals snapped a losing streak

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Aug 6, 2008 2:10 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe we would've signed bonds...

if we had 2 sub .600 OPS outfielders.

"Ding-dong the wicked witch is dead!" - Wayne Hagin after the cardinals snapped a losing streak

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Aug 6, 2008 2:07 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Woah, 3 replies to one statement

Seem very against Barry Bonds.

Again, going back to the original point: How does Felipe Lopez help with the bullpen? Make them feel better about themselves when they take their weekly BP session?

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Aug 6, 2008 2:18 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Your point was

that scoring runs has been the problem. My point was that scoring runs hasn’t been the problem. they’ve scored more runs than the rays, angels and brewers.

Your pont was we should’ve signed Bonds and not Lopez. My point was the cardinals have outfielders who can play, but not shortstops.

Not sure why you think I said lopez would help the bullpen, but whatever.

"Ding-dong the wicked witch is dead!" - Wayne Hagin after the cardinals snapped a losing streak

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Aug 6, 2008 2:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I said the should have signed Bonds

not Lopez.

He said, the OF ain’t the problem.

I said, scoring runs is.

You said, the bullpen was the problem.

I said, that has nothing to do with this.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Aug 6, 2008 2:55 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

its two seperate arguments...

Runs aren’t the problem – Bullpen is

our shortstops suck so we signed a shortstop – Our outfielders don’t suck so we didn’t sign an outfielder.

"Ding-dong the wicked witch is dead!" - Wayne Hagin after the cardinals snapped a losing streak

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Aug 6, 2008 2:59 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Our bench has

Adam Kennedy, Brendan Ryan, Cesar Izturis, Nick Stavinoha, Joe Mather or Skip Schumaker (who can’t hit LHP) and Jason LaRue on it.

And we upgrade it by getting a slightly worse hitter than most of those guys.

It just seems odd that the Cardinals can sign a bad player who MIGHT be good for cheap but can’t sign an elite hitter who MIGHT suck for cheap.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Aug 6, 2008 3:19 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

good night all

stressful game but very nice outcome

When the time comes for me to not be bothered by losing that is when I know it is time to retire my fandom

by ANDYAK47 on Aug 6, 2008 1:17 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Mo just said Lopez was a "plus" defensively

In other news, Reggie Sanders has a terrible, terrible smile.

by jdub176 on Aug 6, 2008 1:30 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

at least he's hinting at he doens't want Frank & IZZY

pitching the late innings any more

it’s about damn time MO. take charge & get those guys out of the late innings. you owe it to every one in the clubhouse.

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Aug 6, 2008 1:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Those were the days.......

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy and Randy Flores!
"Just because nobody understands you doesn't make you an artist."

by Mr Redbird on Aug 6, 2008 1:36 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Quote from a MLB article when Lopez was released from the Nats

“There were times when teammates and the front office felt that Lopez didn’t play hard, but Lopez denied it. He said he was often frustrated and it showed on the field.”

by KYCards on Aug 6, 2008 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A team with Cesar Izturis, Felipe Lopez and Adam Kennedy

Man are we lucky or what. The only guy we are missing now is Miguel Cairo. Think we will get him to fill the September roster?

by KYCards on Aug 6, 2008 1:45 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, August 5ths...

Thats 28 of them now.

A birthday with some rain delays, some blown saves, and a walk off winner. Cap it off with a catfish poboy and a bottle of red and I’m a happy camper.

God damn am I happy to see Carp back on the mound. He has easily the best “mound presence” for a guy since Pedro was unhittable ten years ago. Even after a year and a half break, you can tell in the first when Carpenter is “on.”

Him and Wainwright being in the same roation together is going to be really special.

As for that “bullpen” of ours… let Izzy go, DFA him, try to get a c level prospect if you can (as harsh as that sounds to the franchise saves leader, you have to at this point. He’s got a fucking fork sticking out of his back), bring Perez back up, bring Motte up, only allow Villone to pitch to lefties, and make McClellen the closer, and you’re fixed.

That easy, problem solved.

My fellow Americans. As a young boy, I dreamed of being a baseball, but tonight I say, we must move forward, not backward, upward not forward, and always twirling, twirling, twirling towards freedom.

by Alxfritz on Aug 6, 2008 1:42 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I can hear the interview now

Reporter: “John, at the deadline the Cardinals were neither buyers or sellers yet were still somewhat in contention in the National League Central. What do you say to fans who wonder why the non-activity?”

Mo: “What the heck do you mean? The Brewers went out and got C.C. Sabathia and Ray Durham. We went out and got Chris Carpenter and Felipe Lopez. What more do the fans want?”

Reporter: “Well, the bullpen is a mess, most importantly the closers role. What could have been done there?”

Mo: “Listen dunderhead, you ever heard of a guy called the Mad Hungarian? 97 career saves ring a bell? He believes, and I agree, that based purely on sentimental and anecdotal support we should put Adam Wainwright, our best starting pitcher, in the bullpen to be the closer. Sure, he would be immensely more valuable replacing Wellemeyer or Looper in the rotation, giving us 8 innings every 5 days. But the need is in the bullpen. How many other teams can say they picked up a World Series clinching closer in August?”

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Aug 6, 2008 1:44 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

How absurd is it to think

that Ryan Ludwick was getting platooned in the first two months of the season? The teams MVP (this season) and he couldn’t even crack the lineup.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Aug 6, 2008 2:30 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He should have been a full-time player in april of '07.

oh, what might have been.

"..and that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana shaped." -Sir Belvedere

by SleepyCA on Aug 6, 2008 2:50 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can you imagine

what the roster would look like right now if Aaron Miles’ stray foulball hadn’t ruined Juan’s career and destroyed his quality of life?

Would Skip be here? Would Ludwick be here? Would Mather have gotten a shot? Would they have selected Brian Barton? Would I be an alcoholic?

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Aug 6, 2008 2:58 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow

one word: grit

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 6, 2008 3:10 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

just a shame WJ didn't dump juan's salary

at the deadline in ‘07. Or ‘06, for that matter.

"..and that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana shaped." -Sir Belvedere

by SleepyCA on Aug 6, 2008 3:21 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

meant to add

if WJ had moved juan at he deadline, even for nothing (as many suggested), he wouldn’t have been hurt.

"..and that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana shaped." -Sir Belvedere

by SleepyCA on Aug 6, 2008 3:23 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just have to say

what a game to have missed! unbelievably crazy…

strikeouts from left-center

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 6, 2008 3:11 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

so they're addressing the bullpen situation

by adding Lopez so they can free up Miles to pitch?

I wish I was joking, but… I’m really not.

I have a love/hate relationship with the Cardinals' middle relief corps.

by madding on Aug 6, 2008 6:48 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It's a good morning

Carp had 5 innings, 0 runs, and only 51 pitches. BOOyah.

by sdrone on Aug 6, 2008 9:14 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

but no VEB morning post!

My morning is incomplete.

"I have CDO. It's like OCD, but the letters are in alphabetical order. Like they should be."

by BigMOman on Aug 6, 2008 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

I’m glad I’m not the only one that notices that.

by roebirds on Aug 6, 2008 5:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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